Black. White.

[user123456789]

It premieres March 8 on FX. Looks to me like another great show FX has got on its schedule.

I CAN'T WAIT!

[amazingfantasy15]

Looks interesting, kinda like an expanded version of 30 days.

[SuperFerret]

Am I the only one who thinks this concept is ignorant and racist?

[user123456789]

Am I the only one who thinks this concept is ignorant and racist?

Please elaborate..

I think its exactly the opposite of ignorant and racist... they are literally switching lives.

[SuperFerret]

Please elaborate..

I think its exactly the opposite of ignorant and racist... they are literally switching lives.

It's ignorant, because it's implying that life all of a sudden gets different depending on the color of your skin. Disregarding all predjudices each skin tone attracts, life for a white family isn't any different than that of a black family of equal income, education, culture, etc. Skin color doesn't carry that much weight in reality.

It's also racist due to the use of make-up to "transform" the people into the other race, which is reminiscent of "black face" make-up used by white actors in the past to ridicule blacks.

[Carter]

uh, doesn't seem racist to me at all

[Colossal Spoons]

It's ignorant, because it's implying that life all of a sudden gets different depending on the color of your skin. Disregarding all predjudices each skin tone attracts, life for a white family isn't any different than that of a black family of equal income, education, culture, etc. Skin color doesn't carry that much weight in reality.

It's also racist due to the use of make-up to "transform" the people into the other race, which is reminiscent of "black face" make-up used by white actors in the past to ridicule blacks.

I've never heard of it for myself but if that's the premise; I don't like it either. :down:

[amazingfantasy15]

If it was on a channel other than F/X I might feel the way SuperFerret does, but after watching 30 Days last summer on F/X I feel this will be done tastefully and not for "laughs".

[user123456789]

It's ignorant, because it's implying that life all of a sudden gets different depending on the color of your skin. Disregarding all predjudices each skin tone attracts, life for a white family isn't any different than that of a black family of equal income, education, culture, etc. Skin color doesn't carry that much weight in reality.

It's also racist due to the use of make-up to "transform" the people into the other race, which is reminiscent of "black face" make-up used by white actors in the past to ridicule blacks.

what race are you? where do you live? where have you lived for most of your life? how old are you?

[user123456789]

I've never heard of it for myself but if that's the premise; I don't like it either. :down:

No one really knows the premise as of yet, except what the commercials show us. Basically its a white family being transformed into a black family, and vice versa.

[SuperFerret]

what race are you? where do you live? where have you lived for most of your life? how old are you?

I'm "white" and I'm a New Yorker born and raised, but that's besides the point. If you read carefully, I specifically mentioned that I'm "Disregarding all predjudices each skin tone attracts", because that's stupidity in it's most earnest form, and I don't want to get into that.

Of course, race (unfortunately) is an ever present social factor, but the point I'm making is this: Life is not/should not be different just based on one's skin color (assuming all other factors are equal).

But judging by the inherent stupidity of most reality shows, this one seems racist to me. And it will 'til I see otherwise.

[user123456789]

dont you feel ignoring all the predjudices each skin tone attracts is ignorance in itself?

take a look at our history for the past 300 years.

[SuperFerret]

dont you feel ignoring all the predjudices each skin tone attracts is ignorance in itself?

take a look at our history for the past 300 years.

I know that, and history proves that there are no differences between individuals of different skin tones except for the skin pigmentation itself and the differences humanity imposes on them.

[user123456789]

I know that, and history proves that there are no differences between individuals of different skin tones except for the skin pigmentation itself and the differences humanity imposes on them.

i can't wait for our discussions to come when this show premieres :up:

[JayBiggS]

Of course, race (unfortunately) is an ever present social factor, but the point I'm making is this: Life is not/should not be different just based on one's skin color (assuming all other factors are equal).


Of course it shouldnt. The point of the show is to find out wether or not its true. Hopefully it will open peoples eyes about a thing or two.

[huskerwebhead]

It's ignorant, because it's implying that life all of a sudden gets different depending on the color of your skin. Disregarding all predjudices each skin tone attracts, life for a white family isn't any different than that of a black family of equal income, education, culture, etc. Skin color doesn't carry that much weight in reality.

What?? Really? In an ideal world that may be true. But "in reality" this is not how things are everywhere. There is still alot of prejudice out there and, believe it or not, some people still DO react differently depending on skin color. It's sad, but it's true.

It's also racist due to the use of make-up to "transform" the people into the other race, which is reminiscent of "black face" make-up used by white actors in the past to ridicule blacks.

:rolleyes: It's a tool in a social experiment....not some guy acting like a slave or doing a clumsy dance. As long as it's done tastefully this could be a big eye opener to alot of people. So I assume that the movies: White Chicks, Soul Man, Big Mommas House, etc. are all racist/ignorant in some way?

[amazingfantasy15]

"Life is not/should not be different just based on one's skin color (assuming all other factors are equal)."

You're right and wrong. Life SHOULD not be different based on one's skin color, but life IS different based on one's skin color.

[Morgoth]

that stupid show on fx. just get over the whole race thing. the whites spray painted black don't look right and the black painted white look wierd. It doesn't work. they just have to make it an issue. like that hasn't been done before. we're all different we know get over it.

it reminds me of that old skit Eddie Murphy did in the 80's on SNL, it was funny and he didn't look white either. all reality shows are phony anyway so it doesn't matter what they say.

[user123456789]

Considering FX's track record with their shows, im gonna give Black.White. a try.

[Colossal Spoons]

^Agreed. It has a lot of potential to either open eyes or piss people off.

[user123456789]

^Agreed. It has a lot of potential to either open eyes or piss people off.

And we know FX loves doin that, lol.

[MarvelMovies]

The show premieres tonight

I'm watching Braveheart, though I might have to pause it to catch this show.

[Colossal Spoons]

Pretty good first episode. I thought the fact that the two men were bumping heads was interesting. It was Ignorance vs Paranoia.

[hey yo its sean]

I enjoyed it. It's an interesting show. Althought not exactly a new new concept, it's still a very intriguing social experiment.

[amazingfantasy15]

I thought it was pretty good. Interesting to see the different motivations. The fathers were really interesting in their motivations. The daughter is really embracing the experiment, trying to get the most out of it. The son doesn't really seem to want to be there and is just trying to "pass". It's what I expected in a good way, fairly honest and somewhat eyeopening for the partcipants, I was really surprised that they didn't censor $#!t.

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope that at the end of the show, everybody realizes how full of crap racial stereotypes are. All this "acting black" and "acting white" stuff is impossible.

[terry78]

^Yeah, it is, but you know our families all have those people that use the terms "acting white or black." Which is code for acting "upper class" or acting "like an uneducated thug", respectively.

[Colossal Spoons]

My family and friends both say that "acting a color" crap and I refute it everytime. I'm a black guy who doesn't wear timberlands, play basketball, I don't much care for watermelon, and I speak VERY correctly. By these stupid stereotypes standards, I'm not black. Well I beg to differ.

[Sabretooth]

Both families/sides made interesting points during the episode. Very intriguing experiment...

[Lackey]

My family and friends both say that "acting a color" crap and I refute it everytime. I'm a black guy who doesn't wear timberlands, play basketball, I don't much care for watermelon, and I speak VERY correctly. By these stupid stereotypes standards, I'm not black. Well I beg to differ.


You're still black, you're just "Bryant Gumbel" black.

[huskerwebhead]

You're still black, you're just "Bryant Gumbel" black.

LOL... wait, can I laugh at that?? LMAO

[X-Punisher]

LOL... wait, can I laugh at that?? LMAO


Yeah I think so.

[Colossal Spoons]

You're still black, you're just "Bryant Gumbel" black.

as opposed to 50 Cent? Heh

[Morgoth]

horrible show. They look stupid in their make up. And if anyone falls for it they're very stupid.

They can get over the race thing now. It's different for everybody. It's nothing new. Get over it.

I saw a part where the white woman says:"Well what if there was a room with equal parts white and black and, what if the whites left wouldn't the blacks wanna' start Jiving?"

That was so phony and so stupid. Noone would say that, even though that woman seemed to be some sheltered white broad who doesn't know anything, of course they'd pick someone like her to make the whites seem stupid.

But it was still phony and scripted, I've seen crap said like that in comedies.

It reminds me of when Eddie Murphy dressed white on SNL, he looked horrible and it was just a joke, just like this show. Black people are black yeah, everyone gets it. Get over it and quit throwing it in peoples faces. :down :down

[terry78]

^You sound angry. Bad experience with someone?

[Colossal Spoons]

^You sound angry. Bad experience with someone?

Actually, it sounds like the same thing he said a while back. We get it, you don't like the show.

that stupid show on fx. just get over the whole race thing. the whites spray painted black don't look right and the black painted white look wierd. It doesn't work. they just have to make it an issue. like that hasn't been done before. we're all different we know get over it.

it reminds me of that old skit Eddie Murphy did in the 80's on SNL, it was funny and he didn't look white either. all reality shows are phony anyway so it doesn't matter what they say.

[Pink Ranger]

This is a disgrace. Yet another reality show with no Asian contestants in it. :)

[MaskedManJRK]

It reminds me of when Eddie Murphy dressed white on SNL, he looked horrible and it was just a joke, just like this show. Black people are black yeah, everyone gets it. Get over it and quit throwing it in peoples faces. :down :down

Thank God I wasn't the only one who thought that when I first heard of this show. :o

[Colossal Spoons]

This is a disgrace. Yet another reality show with no Asian contestants in it. :)

Well unfortunately when anybody thinks "racism" or "stereotypes"; they automatically think black people and white people.

[terry78]

Latino and asian people either are lumped in with the white people, the black people, or as immigrants.

[Superhobo]

Dude, that white woman reminds me our my steph-mother/aunt (yes, that's true...). 'Cept she ain't always drunk. Or passed out.

[dpm07]

The show has an original concept, and it is really amazing how they can make the people look good on both sides when they have the make up done. That said, while I can appreciate the novelty of the show, I really don't get into it. It's just not my thing.

[Colossal Spoons]

That white mom never ceases to amaze me lol.

[Capt Throbberson]

This is a disgrace. Yet another reality show with no Asian contestants in it. :)
White.Asian would be alot harder to do

[Neto Magnus]

this show is really not that original. Both Eddie Murphy and Dave Chappelle have walked a mile in white shoes. But the show is very interesting none the less.


Btw, who thinks that white girl is alot hotter as a black girl?

[Colossal Spoons]

I agree with that last part buddy :up:

[GL1]

Dude... I don't care what you guys say, the white girl LOOKS BLACK when she hits the streets, I mean... I defy anyone to be able to tell that she's a white girl, even when she's there doing the white girl dances, she looks so much like a black girl doing it, you'd never guess...

Also, the black dad looks very VERY white and I would buy him on the street any day as well... part of it is the mustache to cover his lip, the other part is he knows the typical corporate america "White" mannerisms and he uses them all the time.. it's just great TV. It is a lot like what comedies have done, but it actually has a POINT. When that guy at the bar started talking about how this was the "last safe white neighborhood" the black dad's heart was really broken... it was rough.

The others, I'm not really convinced... the black son looks pretty on point, but he is resigned to "be himself" and "act black" 50-cent style and, well... somehow that almost makes for good TV...

For those who are 'tired' of 'the race thing' and 'we get it' I say, "so am I," but since it's a consistent part of my life anyway, I find shows on racism, especially social experiments absolutely fascinating, especially from Rappers-turned-CEOs like Ice Cube.

No one ever says "we get it" to the Real World... why Black. White. ?

[terry78]

^Kinda long winded, but I agree. ;)

[KenK]

Dude... I don't care what you guys say, the white girl LOOKS BLACK when she hits the streets, I mean... I defy anyone to be able to tell that she's a white girl, even when she's there doing the white girl dances, she looks so much like a black girl doing it, you'd never guess...

And it only helps that she's got a rather plentiful backside on her own. But yeah, passing her on the street, I would have been fooled. Even to look at her for long periods of time, I didn't even think she looked "off". If anything, if someone told me I had to guess who was the white out of everyone from the poetry class, I'd probably have picked the heavy black girl in the denim outfit. I'd have sooner assumed she was the one pretending to be black.

It was a bit jacked up how Renee set up Carmen, agreeing with her about the dashikis, then agreeing with her husband about them being a bad idea. I'm like, if you're offended, or if you think the woman's going about something the wrong way, tell her about it from jump. Don't set her up to be ridiculed. Carmen asked for her opinion, and Renee either lied to her, or punked out when Brian took offense and decided to stand by her husband.

[Colossal Spoons]

Renee sounds like she has the most sensitive skin in the world. Combine that with a loose tongue and you've got a lady I'd kill if I ever met face to face.

"rather plentiful backside" hahahaha :up:

[Sabretooth]

What was that one kid's problem who was telling the girl to cry so he can see her real skin?

[AndThePickles]

I guess he was angry that she was being fake. And even if he had forgiven her, looks like he won't be coming back to the house thanks to her dumbass mother.

[Bat Attack]

IMO, The only white person that look like they are really black is the daughter.

[AndThePickles]

I agree. I think she kinda looks better black ha.

[amazingfantasy15]

Seemed like the white parents are finally starting to learn what racism is.

[Sandman138]

I'm interested in this show. I haven't watched it yet, but I want to. The concept has potential to be really good, a Black Like Me for the MTV generation. However, delivering it in the form of a reality tv show has me worried that it won't actually tackle the issues in an honest manner. I don't know if it's been on long enough now, but for those that have been watching, is there a general concensous?

[Colossal Spoons]

Bruno's unwillingness to notice racism is infuriating. Also, hearing that kid get scolded for that watch was priceless. Reminds me of my mom lol.

[amazingfantasy15]

Sandman, the show isn't handled like a normal primetime network reality show, it's doesn't have the sensationalism most reality TV has. The participants are really in this to learn and see what's it's like to live in another person's skin and this week actually started to learn the differences between black and white culture. I think it's the most honest look you'll ever get at this subject on TV. The first two episode were kinda bumpy only because the parents seem really stuck in their perceptions, but those perceptions are starting to go away now. It's a lot like the show 30 Days that was on F/X last summer.

[Bat Attack]

The episode last night when Bruno, that black lady, and his wife (without black makeup) went into that park was creepy. Especially since the people were staring and talking about her. I think they finally understood racisim.

[Colossal Spoons]

Bruno still doesn't. Carmen got an eye opener though.

[Super_Ludacris]

This show is funny as hell. I saw last week's episode and that white mother is a dumb trick lol. Yo who rocks a Dahshiki to church.....and "black creature" at the poet meet? Are you nuts lol.

She one of those "Free-spirit" baby boomer white women who tried to hard

[Super_Ludacris]

I TIVO'ed last nights ep aint seen it yet, but its anything like last week, should be good. The white girl seems like cool people. But that fruity dude was a little ***** "I'm....just...hurt...that....you....lied to me" She didnt for a show you mango!!!! I bet if Cube came out from the back he'd catch a seizure and shrivle like a limp biscuit

[Colossal Spoons]

^Wait till you hear how the black mother scolds her son for the watch. Good ****.

[Mr. Socko]

Dang, I missed it last Wednesday but I did see the other 2 episodes.

[zanos]

I guess he was angry that she was being fake. And even if he had forgiven her, looks like he won't be coming back to the house thanks to her dumbass mother.

That's like the pot calling the kettle black. That guy is gay and he's in complete denial.

[Super_Ludacris]

Is he though? He said he wasnt just feminine. I see tons of fruitcake R&B dudes like that, they just soft or maybe Bi on the low

[zanos]

Is he though? He said he wasnt just feminine. I see tons of fruitcake R&B dudes like that, they just soft or maybe Bi on the low

Name one. Trust me he's in complete denial. There is not one thing about him that you could say is straight. He acts, speaks and, dresses gay because he's gay. He even attacked Rose like a bitc h. What more proof do you need?

"If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands."

[Super_Ludacris]

I see a couple of *****s on my campus like that, they kinda fruity and terry cloth soft as hell lol. Them feminine dudes you could have sworn are gay as hell, but nah they straight( It seems...cause they be getting all the pussy like WTF?! lol). I mean hey, he probably is but if he say he's isnt I guess not. But to me I could see how dude could be offended by the lie though. She's lucky they gave her a pass because White person in Blackface= Minstrel Show to some and that's worse than Devante Swing over there keeping it in the closet lol

[Colossal Spoons]

I totally disagree with the black parent's opinions on "the n word". I always shake my head at my fellow black people who huff and puff whenever the word is said.

[ABC]

Anyone watch? It's the show on Fox at like ten.
It's about the two Families.
One black(1 father 1mother 1 son"16yrs")

One white(1 father 1 mother 1 daughter"17yrs" )

They live under one roof. They each switch races and do different things to experience life in the other race.

[32CAGE]

One of the stupidest series ever made.

[amazingfantasy15]

32Cage, have you actually watched the show? I've been watching it and it's actually really good, very interesting and enlightening. This isn't Trading Spouses or the Real World, it deals with the subject with respect. It's not trying to be over the top, sure it's a gimmick, but they're using that for real drama, not fake gimmicky drama.

[AndThePickles]

The African American family totally wanted to take Rose home with them when they left haha.

[Super_Ludacris]

Well since it was leaked that the white girl is an actress who worked on the Dinsey Channel, the show has been a little suspect

[AndThePickles]

Well since it was leaked that the white girl is an actress who worked on the Dinsey Channel, the show has been a little suspect

Oooh? I had no idea. What show was she in?

[Super_Ludacris]

Dunno but basically a few months someone posted to a cast photo of some obscoure Disney show and sure enough there was Rose in the photo. That lead to speculation that the show was infact might be hiring actors and therefore it might fake. And that sucks cause it is a great show and speaks a lot about the misunderstanding of the different race cultures of America.

[Lackey]

Well since it was leaked that the white girl is an actress who worked on the Dinsey Channel, the show has been a little suspect


lots of people do reality shows when trying to break into Hollywood, it doesn't mean the show was staged.

[Super_Ludacris]

But it leads to speculation. It's not like they said she was an actress on the show

[zanos]

Not to mention she looks nothing like Bruno or the mom but maybe that's just me.

[C-$]

I hope Rose wasn't acting becuase I would feel kind of betrayed. It pisses me off when people judge the show & they haven't even watched it!

[32CAGE]

32Cage, have you actually watched the show? I've been watching it and it's actually really good, very interesting and enlightening. This isn't Trading Spouses or the Real World, it deals with the subject with respect. It's not trying to be over the top, sure it's a gimmick, but they're using that for real drama, not fake gimmicky drama.

In fact i have. The show promotes stereotypes imo.

[Mr. Socko]

This was a really good show, I enjoyed it whilst it lasted.