*OFFICIAL* Superman Returns Noob question thread.

[Mentok]

*Thanks for the Sticky MORG :up: *

***UPDATE***


THis thread will work in two parts. The first is this post. It contains all the main information regarding the production. It will be updated as we go. The second part is the thread, ask a question and you will get an answer.

Pretty simple really :up:


QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS REGARDING SUPERMAN RETURNS ONLY TO BE POSTED IN THIS THREAD... TAKE DISCUSSION TO ANOTHER THREAD




***THE FILM***


When will it come out?

International release date - 30 June 2006 (some markets are later check local guides)

When will we get the trailer?

*UPDATE*
According to the WB, SR trailer 1 will be released in May.

Whats the budget?

The film was budgeted at 184.5 million. This figure will grow with effects work... but is still South of 200.
*Quote taken from Singer at Wonder-Con 06*

What is the film about?

A number of things. First of all, its about Superman returning to a world he left. Its also about relationships and has an underlying theme of technology (especially reagrding how Kryptonian technology works).

Singer has stated that its about "What hapens when old boyfriends return".

Synopsis

Following a mysterious absence of several years, the Man of Steel comes back to Earth in the epic action-adventure Superman Returns, a soaring new chapter in the saga of one of the world’s most beloved superheroes.

While an old enemy plots to render him powerless once and for all, Superman faces the heartbreaking realization that the woman he loves, Lois Lane, has moved on with her life. Or has she? Superman’s bittersweet return challenges him to bridge the distance between them while finding a place in a society that has learned to survive without him.

In an attempt to protect the world he loves from cataclysmic destruction, Superman embarks on an epic journey of redemption that takes him from the depths of the ocean to the far reaches of outer space.

Whats the deal? Is it a restart?

*UPDATE*

It now seems that SR is more or less a direct sequel to the first two Superman films. A series of comics will be released linking the films and explaining what has been going on since Supermans exile.

Its a new Superman storyline with new, modern elements. The first two films serve as a "Vague History" for Superman Returns. Some elements will be familiar (The Fortress of Solitude, Kryptonite and the Kent Farm), while others will be new.


Does the show SMALLVILLE work with the same timeline as SUPERMAN RETURNS?

No. For the most part SMALLVILLE is an independant retelling of Supermans origins. The people involved with the show have hower added some elements from the old films (THE FOS) so people familiar with SMALLVILLES version of the mythos can make the step over to the more classical version of Superman.

Singer on the film...

"Rather than being a remake of the original movie," Singer added, "this film explores Superman's influence on our global culture and the impact of his return to Earth after an absence of several years. It's my great pleasure to bring this new chapter of the Superman legacy to the screen with this incredible cast."


***THE CAST AND CREW***


Who is making Superman Returns?


Director - Bryan Singer
Screenplay - Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris
Story - Singer and Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris
Producers - Gilbert Adler, Jon Peters and Bryan Singer
Mucic producer/Score - John Ottman

Who is in it?

Brandon Routh - Superman
Kate Bosworth - Lois Lane
Kevin Spacey - Lex Luthor
Marlon Brando - Jor-El
Sam Huntington - Jimmy Olsen
James Karen - Ben Hubbard
Frank Langella - Perry White
James Marsden - Richard White
Kal Penn - Stanford
Parker Posey - Kitty Koslowski
Eva Marie Saint - Martha Kent
Stephan Bender - Young Clark/Kal-El

What about the director?

Directed by Brian Singer. Singer has previously worked on the X-Men films. His sexual orientation (or that of the cast members) is not important to the film.

Who is this Brandon Routh and why is he Superman?

It was Singers intention to cast an "unknown actor" in the role. Aparantly, his screen test withj Kate Bosworth (playing Lois) is what got him over the line. The chemistry between the two was a very important factor in the casting process.

Brandon has appeared on a few TV shows in the past Including "Gillmore Girls" and "Cold Case".

Brandon had tested for the Superman role with one of the previous attempts at a Superman film.

How did Bosworth get cast as Lois?

Bosworth was cast after a screen testing process. Kevin Spacey suggested Singer test Bosworth for the role (Spacey and Bosworth had previously worked on Beyond the Sea).


***CHARACTERS***


Will Clark be a bumbling fool again?

Yes, Although I dont believe it will be exactly the same as Reeve's Clark.

Is Luthor the only bad guy? why no "Super villians"

Yes, Luthor is the only badguy in this film. There are no "Super Villians" in Superman Returns although they will "hint" at classic villians they can go on to use in the next films.

What about Lex? is he campy again?

No. While retaining some of his wit (he is an evil genius afterall) This version of Luthor is much darker and evil. According to the production team, Luthor has spent some serious time in jail and it has deepened his hatred for Superman.

Will Lex fight Superman if there are no "Super Villians"?

Indeed. Luthor is more than a match for Superman and will definetly get the better of him in this film.

What is Lex up to in this film?

Seems that lex is still hell bent on land (see SUPERMAN:THE MOVIE) Although this time its on a whole new scale.

Lex creates a new continent using Kryptonoan technology. At this point it seems to be an accident

This new continent is known as New Krypton and causes serious problems with the Earths natural balance

Lex has "Henchmen"... please tell me its not "OTIS" all over again!

It dosent seem that way.

Kal Penn plays one of Luthors henchmen... its unknown exactly what his role is.

Ian Roberts plays another, named Riley. From the blogs and set pics it seems that he is acting as Luthors videographer... documenting the rise of Luthor and the downfall Superman?

Parker Posey plays Luthors Girlfriend.

Who will Superman fight and what will the action scenes be?

First of all, Luthor... Although that wont be a battle of strength.

Superman will be doing more than just saving people and poor kittens stuck up in trees.

Lois has a boyfriend and a kid? WTF???!!! :mad:

Yes.

Lois is a strong, independent woman and has moved on (sort of ;) ) since Superman and Clark left her. She has a new boyfriend in the form of Richard White and they have a son together.

It is unknown what role the child plays and who the child really belongs to.

Is its Supermans kid?

Unknown.

Rumors are floating about supporting a number of theories on the "KID".

Does the kid have "special powers"?

Unconfirmed.

Is Pa Kent in the film?

No. He is dead. He may appear in a flashback of some kind.



***RANDOM SUPERMAN RETURNS FACTS***


SUPERMAN RETURNS is the first film to use the new Panavision Genesis digital cameras.

On the Breeza location set (Smallville/Kent farm) The crew had to grow their own corn for several key scenes.

A huge Metropolis set was constructed at the WB film studios on the Gold Coast... only to be dismantled and relocated to the main FOX Sydney studios after budget and time problems.

Several well known Sydney buildings in the CBD were given a facelift to fit into the film.

Brian Singer based his first X-Men film off Donner's Superman:The Movie.

Actor Ian Roberts (Playing Riley) is a former professional Rugby player.


***LINKS AND FURTHER INFO***


Official SUPERMAN RETURNS website

www.supermanreturns.com

Discription of "Vague history" (Thanks to BLUETIGHTS.COM)

http://www.bluetights.net/column.php?id=1

Bluetights (Links for forums, production blogs and news)

http://bluetights.net/

Unnofficial Brandon Routh Site.

www.brandonrouth.com

Superman homepage (further Superman info)

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php

Superman returns media

http://www.kal-el.org/

[The Punisher]

Nice thread Mentok and this should be sure to help out anyone who isn't familiar with the movie. Great job.

[Morg]

Ok, I think it is a good point to have it made a sticky like this due to questions that been repeated again and again, hopefully this will help with the excessive posts of asking the same thing.

[The Punisher]

Very good point.

[user123456789]

A question thats been burnin me...

Do we know, or have ANY idea, how strong, in terms of brute strength, Superman will be in this movie? Will he be a GOD, or more like the Superman:TAS Superman?

[Agentdemon]

Vague history is spelled wrong in question, Whats the deal? Is it a restart?

[user123456789]

Vague history is spelled wrong in question, Whats the deal? Is it a restart?

Bryan Singer has said in interviews that his movie will be a sequel to STM & II.

[Agentdemon]

^LOL I was referring to the question "Whats the deal? Is it a restart?" because vague is spelled wrong.

[Mentok]

Yeah, a few spelling mistakes, but I had other stuff to do. I am spell ckecking now :D

[BrollySupersj]

All the INFO on Superman Returns in one spot.

I dig.

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

Good Thread :up: !!

[Cinemaman]

Nice.

[Cinemaman]

Mentok, On the question "Who will Superman fight and what will the action scenes be?",
why you didn't write something about cataclism and New Krypton?

[Kevin Roegele]

You should add the film's release date.

[Cinemaman]

You should add the film's release date.

Me?

[Cinemaman]

Did Routh, Spacey and Bosworth sign acontract to come back for sequels?

Remember that was with Spidey.

[Kevin Roegele]

Me?

I meant Mentok.

[Cinemaman]

I meant Mentok.

Oh, sorry.

[Kevin Roegele]

Oh, sorry.

No, I'm the one who should be sorry.

[musclesforsupes]

Is it true urkel is cameoing in the movie?

[ruhanv]

Good stuff.

The land question is a bit incorrect though. We don't know if Luthor is creating new Krypton because he wants property (as in STM) but it's more likely due to the technology contained within his new version of the FOS.

It might also be worth adding a few question in regards to the marketing and distribution: Release dates, Trailers etc. as there are so many threads on these issues.

[Cinemaman]

Good stuff.

The land question is a bit incorrect though. We don't know if Luthor is creating new Krypton because he wants property (as in STM) but it's more likely due to the technology contained within his new version of the FOS.

It might also be worth adding a few question in regards to the marketing and distribution: Release dates, Trailers etc. as there are so many threads on these issues.

Spoilers are proof of NK.

[Mentok]

No problem guys. I will update my first post.

Let me know if anything is wrong or you think of something else that can go up :up:

[The Game]

When New Krypton is built what colour will it be?

[Cinemaman]

When New Krypton is built what colour will it be?

I don't know when it will be built, but I know it will be full of kryptonite.

So it will have green colour.

[Rex Calibur]

I don't know when it will be built, but I know it will be full of kryptonite.

So it will have green colour.
This picture disagrees:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f254/james-knighton/050902_Superman_wide.png

[Cinemaman]

This picture disagrees:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f254/james-knighton/050902_Superman_wide.png

It is FOS, and I said about NK.

[Spider-Steve]

Ok, a question about Clark Kent:

Will Clark be clumsy like in the Superman movie's with Christopher Reeve? I hope so!

Steve

[Cinemaman]

Ok, a question about Clark Kent:

Will Clark be clumsy like in the Superman movie's with Christopher Reeve? I hope so!

Steve

Yep.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Not a question..nice thread mentok

great idea.

:up:

[Rex Calibur]

It is FOS, and I said about NK.According to an article, that IS New Krypton he is standing in.

[Rex Calibur]

Yep.No, he won't. In yet another article, Singer said Routh's Clark will instead be unnoticeable and quiet, not the loud, obvious buffoon that Reeve portrayed.

[Cinemaman]

No, he won't. In yet another article, Singer said Routh's Clark will instead be unnoticeable and quiet, not the loud, obvious buffoon that Reeve portrayed.

Link please :)

Where did you find it?

[Cinemaman]

According to an article, that IS New Krypton he is standing in.

Why do you think so?

Any proofs?

[Rex Calibur]

Link please :)

Where did you find it?


Why do you think so?

Any proofs?
I can't be bothered to search for those articles again. But I did read it.

[Cinemaman]

I can't be bothered to search for those articles again. But I did read it.

And I am a son of the queen, LOL.

You lied me, and I am right.

[Superman_20]

Dude, edit your post. Kids may visit the site.


hmm... good idea!



http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=kKGxaol4qws&eurl=&iurl=static13.youtube.com/get_still.php?video_id=kKGxaol4qws

[Bad Superman]

Dude, edit your post. Kids may visit the site.

[nosebleed.]

what's a noob?

[KalElofKrypton]

A NOOB is someone who is new to something, in this case Superman Returns.

[Rex Calibur]

And I am a son of the queen, LOL.

You lied me, and I am right.:o. Okay, show me where it was stated Routh's Clark will be exactly the same as Routh's clark, and New Krypton has been confirmed as being green.

[Mentok]

Ok, Info has been updated and I did a bit of formatting to make it easier to read :up:

Let me know of anything else that can go up there.

[KalElofKrypton]

:o. Okay, show me where it was stated Routh's Clark will be exactly the same as Routh's clark, and New Krypton has been confirmed as being green.

Why would Routh's Clark be any different than his own Clark, bro? Edit your post...And it won't be exactly the same. Respect will be shown to Chris Reeve's Clark...But you can't change the symbolic character of Clark Kent.

[Agentdemon]

"Whats the budget?" Didn't singer say 184 million at wondercon?

[Mentok]

"Whats the budget?" Didn't singer say 184 million at wondercon?

Yeah, I cant find the exact quotes for the budget.

I am looking and will update it when I can find a better answer.

[Mentok]

Big update... Now with RANDOM FACTS and LINKS.

[Cinemaman]

:o. Okay, show me where it was stated Routh's Clark will be exactly the same as Routh's clark, and New Krypton has been confirmed as being green.

New Krypton will be full of kryptonite, see thread about Toylines.

And Singer said that Routh's Clark will be just like was Reeve's Clark.

He said it in Prienston interciew, he also showed the footage.

[Cinemaman]

Big update... Now with RANDOM FACTS and LINKS.

Great!

[Cinemaman]

"Whats the budget?" Didn't singer say 184 million at wondercon?

SR will have budget in $184m.

But Singer also said that if vissual effects are more expencive, they will get 200m cross.

[Rex Calibur]

New Krypton will be full of kryptonite, see thread about Toylines.I saw the thread, nothing said it was made of kryptonite.

And Singer said that Routh's Clark will be just like was Reeve's Clark.I've never read that. But I HAVE heard him say Routh's Clark will be different and less obvious.

He said it in Prienston interciew, he also showed the footage.So, were you there?

[Cinemaman]

I saw the thread, nothing said it was made of kryptonite.

I've never read that. But I HAVE heard him say Routh's Clark will be different and less obvious.

So, were you there?

1. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219325

2. It wasn't. Everybody will say you that Routh will be like Reeve's Clark.

3. No, I wasnt there, but I read transcript.

[Rex Calibur]

1. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219325
Still, nothing says it will be green in the movie. Back when F4 was in production, there was a toy that showed Dr. Doom in the comic costume. This was not how it appeared in the movie.

2. It wasn't. Everybody will say you that Routh will be like Reeve's Clark.Except i've heard everyone say he will be different.

[Mentok]

Singer confirmed that Clark will be the "bumbling fool" at last years TROPFEST in Sydney.

Steve: Fantastic. Now Clark Kent - Bumbling fool or confident?

Brian: He's playing the role of a bumbling fool, but he's not, that's just a role.

Link...
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/movies/movies.php?topic=interview-singer1

Video...
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/downloadpro/download.php?file=134

[Cinemaman]

Still, nothing says it will be green in the movie. Back when F4 was in production, there was a toy that showed Dr. Doom in the comic costume. This was not how it appeared in the movie.

Except i've heard everyone say he will be different.

Mentok confirmed what I said.

And NK will be full of kryptonite, you just don't want to understand it!

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Bryan Singer at Comic-Con 2005:

"...there's the bumbling Clark...the Clark who has to masquerade at the Daily Planet..."

[matrix_ghost]

Here's a suggestion.

ANy info on the newest trailer(s) ?
When will be be released or rumored to be released with movie X ?


Alot of people were hoping to see the second trailer at WonderCon.

[Mentok]

Here's a suggestion.

ANy info on the newest trailer(s) ?
When will be be released or rumored to be released with movie X ?


Alot of people were hoping to see the second trailer at WonderCon.

Thanks for that. I will chuck up the info (well, rumored info since we have no official word on the trailer :( )

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I have a noob question about the plot outline:

"Superman embarks on an epic journey of redemption that takes him from the depths of the ocean to the far reaches of outer space."

WHAT takes him to the depths of the ocean? I noticed that Singer is really pushing the SFX aspect of the film and I've heard him mention sequences where Superman does things that you've never seen a character do, which I assume is a very complicated SFX shot. I assume there is a shot that starts off in space and through ONE TAKE ends up in the ocean. What do you think it is? I say it's a meterorite or something. Or a spacestation or satellite in space that Superman has to retrieve; maybe there's people in it to add a double jeopardy.

Or vice versa. Maybe Luthor dumps Superman in the middle of the ocean after a particular scene in the Fortress of Solitude and for some reason, Superman escapes and has to fly to outer space. I still think we'll see a single take SFX shot that will make our jaws drop. It would be similiar to one of my favorite sequences from Superman '78 where he escapes Luthor's underground hideout and has to chase the rockets. I fricken LOVE that part with the great Williams music and all...

[Mentok]

I have a noob question about the plot outline:

"Superman embarks on an epic journey of redemption that takes him from the depths of the ocean to the far reaches of outer space."

WHAT takes him to the depths of the ocean? I noticed that Singer is really pushing the SFX aspect of the film and I've heard him mention sequences where Superman does things that you've never seen a character do, which I assume is a very complicated SFX shot. I assume there is a shot that starts off in space and through ONE TAKE ends up in the ocean. What do you think it is? I say it's a meterorite or something. Or a spacestation or satellite in space that Superman has to retrieve; maybe there's people in it to add a double jeopardy.

Or vice versa. Maybe Luthor dumps Superman in the middle of the ocean after a particular scene in the Fortress of Solitude and for some reason, Superman escapes and has to fly to outer space. I still think we'll see a single take SFX shot that will make our jaws drop. It would be similiar to one of my favorite sequences from Superman '78 where he escapes Luthor's underground hideout and has to chase the rockets. I fricken LOVE that part with the great Williams music and all...


1- Lex stabbs Superman with Kryptonite then dumps his body into the ocean.

2- It is rumored that Superman throws New Krypton into space by going beneath it (to the depths of the ocean) and lifting it up.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Whoa, awesome. Thanks! I was right half way. That sounds sweet!

[Mentok]

Yeah, the second one is still not confirmed but the toys seem to back it up. We will see.

It would be a pretty huge scene :up:

[Cinemaman]

When Lex will make NK? In what act of film it will be?

[Cinemaman]

When Singer stoped filming?

[Cinemaman]

Will somebody answer on my questions?

[The Game]

Will somebody answer on my questions?

No cinny, your questions will go unanswered :D

[Cinemaman]

No cinny, your questions will go unanswered :D

I will wait for somebody else :mad:

[Spider-Steve]

When Singer stoped filming?

When he was finished! :D

Steve

[Cinemaman]

PEOPLE! I NEED A CONFORMITION THAT THE BUDGET IS ABOUT $184m.

[Venom71]

PEOPLE! I NEED A CONFORMITION THAT THE BUDGET IS ABOUT $184m.
Singer said in the clip of his and Brandon's interview at WonderCon that it is around $184.5M. Just South of $200M.

[Cinemaman]

Singer said in the clip of his and Brandon's interview at WonderCon that it is around $184.5M. Just South of $200M.

Ok, thanx.

[Il_Siciliano]

still the funniest guy in the hype! ^^^

[Showtime]

still the funniest guy in the hype! ^^^

Cinnamon is the funniest...gotta love the passion.

CINNAMON
http://www.becomehealthynow.com/images/spices_herbs/cinnamon.jpg
FEEL THE PASSION

[BrollySupersj]

I heard a Uber fake rumor that the Budget was 284 million. I swear when I read that I threw up.

[Mentok]

Updated the budget info in the first post with quotes from singers interview at Wonder-Con 06.

[Cinemaman]

But when Singer stoped filming?

[Mentok]

But when Singer stoped filming?

I believe filming finished September 20005? Some reeshoots were done after that but I believe all milming was finished by the end of the year.

I will have to check on those details.

[matrix_ghost]

Well here are some more questions( with some info that i know ; you can go on an update is more mentok :))

1 Who's responsible for the VFX ?
As far as i know , SONY IMAGEWORKS is doing the bulk of the VFX with Andy Jones ( director of Final fantasy: The spirits within and Final Flight Of The osiris) overseeing 100 shots of a CG flying double of Brandon Routh.

2 Will there be any more blogs ?

3 Are there any spoilerific reports on the plane rescue scene ?

4 Will there be any super villains in this movie or the sequels ?
I know there aren't :) , but is there any reports on hints of them such as in the spiderman movies and the X-men movies

[Sverdlovski]

I believe filming finished September 20005? Some reeshoots were done after that but I believe all milming was finished by the end of the year.

I will have to check on those details.

20,005? Man, that's a loong shooting schedule! :D :D :D

[Mentok]

20,005? Man, that's a loong shooting schedule! :D :D :D

Whoops :p

[Mr. Socko]

1. Blogs?

2. How many VFX shots are there in this movie?

3. How long is Post Production gonna last? Is it finish yet?

[Cinemaman]

1. Blogs?

2. How many VFX shots are there in this movie?

3. How long is Post Production gonna last? Is it finish yet?

1. No.

2. There will be 1400 shots.

3. I think it will take about 10 months. And Post Production have already started.

[user123456789]

Will we get a shirtless Brandon Routh scene?

[Cinemaman]

Will we get a shirtless Brandon Routh scene?

Maybe, but not soon.

[user123456789]

Maybe, but not soon.

I meant in the context of the movie. I appreciate your willlingness to respond to every question posed here, but if you don't have a definite answer, please let Mentok or someone more qualified to answer. It only adds to the confusion / unknown. Thanks.

[Naite22]

I dont think we'll see brandon with out his shirt off... It seems a bit weird for a superman flick doesn't it..or what?? I mean did we ever see Reeve with his off?

[Rex Calibur]

I dont think we'll see brandon with out his shirt off... It seems a bit weird for a superman flick doesn't it..or what?? I mean did we ever see Reeve with his off?Yes.

[user123456789]

Yes.

can we get a pic?


And i saw another poster say that there will be a shot in the film with Brandons shirt off.

[Rex Calibur]

can we get a pic?Nay. :(

[dark_b]

I dont think we'll see brandon with out his shirt off... It seems a bit weird for a superman flick doesn't it..or what?? I mean did we ever see Reeve with his off?i know what you mean. and i agree. but it looks like this is now IN to show the hero shirtless.

spiderman 1,2
daredevil
batman begins
hulk
and so on ....

[user123456789]

Nay. :(

why not?

[user123456789]

i know what you mean. and i agree. but it looks like this is now IN to show the hero shirtless.

spiderman 1,2
daredevil
batman begins
hulk
and so on ....

we got a shirtless scene in hulk & dd? don't remember that, lol.

[Cinemaman]

we got a shirtless scene in hulk & dd? don't remember that, lol.

In Hulk it was, when Bruce slept and after scene where Hulk almost destroyed San-Francisco.

In Daredevil it was in begining, when he slept.

[user123456789]

In Hulk it was, when Bruce slept and after scene where Hulk almost destroyed San-Francisco.

In Daredevil it was in begining, when he slept.

:up:

[Cinemaman]

:up:

I think we will see him shirtless.

[Rex Calibur]

why not?Because finding it on Google will yeild nasty results. :eek:

[user123456789]

Because finding it on Google will yeild nasty results. :eek:

im talkin about shirtless pics in his superman movies..

[Mr. Thing]

Will we get a shirtless Brandon Routh scene?

...

[BrollySupersj]

I got the ending figured out, well to what may seem like the ending that is.

[KGBeast]

Noob question:

will Superman Returns feature the classic main titles and end credits in the space?

[Mr. Socko]

Hulk is always shirtless...

Now Rob Banner is a different story.

[Agentdemon]

Noob question:

will Superman Returns feature the classic main titles and end credits in the space?

unknown.

[Mentok]

I dont think we'll see brandon with out his shirt off... It seems a bit weird for a superman flick doesn't it..or what?? I mean did we ever see Reeve with his off?

I believe Bosworth has already confirmed at least one shirtless scene for Routh in the film.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Noob question:

will Superman Returns feature the classic main titles and end credits in the space?

Yes, unknown but quite likely. The credits to the X-Men movies are quite elaborate and flashy, and I assume Singer will go a similiar route with Superman. He wants to stay as close to Donner's style and I think making the credits in a similiar fashion will suit that need. Plus the opening titles are quite important for establishing an initial mood, and nothing will do that like seeing that familiar opening title complete with Williams fanfare.

[Agentdemon]

I believe Bosworth has already confirmed at least one shirtless scene for Routh in the film.

Really, can you point to the article?

[The Punisher]

I believe Bosworth has already confirmed at least one shirtless scene for Routh in the film.

Source?

[Mentok]

It was an interview... give me a minute to look for it.

[Mentok]

Ok, I must be dreaming things then... Someone said that Routh does have a topless scene. Anyone know where it was said???

[user123456789]

Ok, I must be dreaming things then... Someone said that Routh does have a topless scene. Anyone know where it was said???

what methods of search have u tried?

[Cinemaman]

Noob question:

will Superman Returns feature the classic main titles and end credits in the space?

I think Singer will make new titles and the end credits with Williams theme.

It would be awesome to see.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

How/why does the Daily Planet globe fall? I suspect it is because the newspaper -- or even Lois -- has been digging up some dirt on a crime/terror organization and in turn they decide to use some intimidation tactics against the paper.

[Cinemaman]

How/why does the Daily Planet globe fall? I suspect it is because the newspaper -- or even Lois -- has been digging up some dirt on a crime/terror organization and in turn they decide to use some intimidation tactics against the paper.

DP globe will fall because there will be big action sequence with global cataclism.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

DP globe will fall because there will be big action sequence with global cataclism.

LOL! Good one :up:

[KGBeast]

Thanks for the answers

[explode7]

I've got a question. Can I ask it although I'm not a newbie?

[Rex Calibur]

I've got a question. Can I ask it although I'm not a newbie?You are a newbie. Heck, i'm still a newbie.

[explode7]

Ok here goes then. Its about the 6 year absence supes took. How will he survive in that spaceship of his? Does it have unlimited oxygen? Does he have 6 years of food and water with him? How will he interact socially with people when there are none in space? He'll become insane all by himself for 6 years.

[Rex Calibur]

Ok here goes then. Its about the 6 year absence supes took. How will he survive in that spaceship of his? Does it have unlimited oxygen? Does he have 6 years of food and water with him? How will he interact socially with people when there are none in space? He'll become insane all by himself for 6 years. I suppose it does have unlimited oxygen. In the original movie, baby Kal-El survived for three years in that spaceship.

As for going mad, well he has Jor-El holograms to keep him company, and all those crystals must have something interesting to watch.

[ToddIsDead]

I thought he takes a volley ball with a red face painted on it to keep him company.

[explode7]

^ Castaway right?

[ToddIsDead]

Yep

[user123456789]

damn explode7 good question.

and the answer will probably be: convenient plot hole

[explode7]

^ Or the "Superman don't need to eat and drink anything to survive" line.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Or he's in some sort of stasis which is alluded to by the pictures of Superman in a fetal position in the ship. That or maybe it's Kryptonian technology similiar to that of the Phantom Zone. Singer did say there was going to be a lot of insight into Kryptonian technology (or did I dream that?).

[Mentok]

Ok here goes then. Its about the 6 year absence supes took. How will he survive in that spaceship of his? Does it have unlimited oxygen? Does he have 6 years of food and water with him? How will he interact socially with people when there are none in space? He'll become insane all by himself for 6 years.

Not sure at this point. We do know that the suit he wears (the bronze color jump/space suit) keeps him alive somehow. I assume the spaceship also has a life support system of some sorts.

As for Kal going bonkers with no one to talk to I guess that he will be in a suspended animation for most of the trip?

[Kevin Roegele]

No problem guys. I will update my first post.

Let me know if anything is wrong or you think of something else that can go up :up:

Good job, Ment.

Also you could add a, "How does Superman Returns effect Smallville? Will it tie-in?" question. SInger has said there have been meetings so the two dovetail to some extent.

[Mentok]

Thanks for that. I forgot about Smallville :D

I will update the post... eventually :( :D

[PSU442]

I'm smart enough not to start a thread on this topic so I'm asking the question here....

First off, don't get me wrong: I love Superman, I'm excited about Singer, I'm digging Routh, and I'm expecting a good movie... BUT why can't we have a single picture or poster or anything be as cool as the new Spiderman 3 poster??? It's so subtle, so cool (the black costume... wow.) That's what we need.

[PSU442]

and another Noob question:

What's with the earthquakes? In the first Superman, Lex caused a major earthquake on the west coast. Superman struggled with that. Now, from what I gather, New Krypton will cause catastrophic global earthquakes. I'm assuming Superman will really struggle with that. But does anybody else see a weakness in the writing there? Enough with earthquakes.

(I'm coming across really negative tonight... keep in mind I'm not.)

[Mentok]

I'm smart enough not to start a thread on this topic so I'm asking the question here....

First off, don't get me wrong: I love Superman, I'm excited about Singer, I'm digging Routh, and I'm expecting a good movie... BUT why can't we have a single picture or poster or anything be as cool as the new Spiderman 3 poster??? It's so subtle, so cool (the black costume... wow.) That's what we need.

WB are keeping the marketing for the film till closer to the launch. I too want a kickass poster but I am glad they are working on the film rather than posters to keep us happy.

[Mentok]

and another Noob question:

What's with the earthquakes? In the first Superman, Lex caused a major earthquake on the west coast. Superman struggled with that. Now, from what I gather, New Krypton will cause catastrophic global earthquakes. I'm assuming Superman will really struggle with that. But does anybody else see a weakness in the writing there? Enough with earthquakes.

(I'm coming across really negative tonight... keep in mind I'm not.)

Earthquakes are good IMO, its not like BATMAN or SPIDER-MAN can do much when that happens ;)

Its just a nice way of showing off Superman.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I'm smart enough not to start a thread on this topic so I'm asking the question here....

First off, don't get me wrong: I love Superman, I'm excited about Singer, I'm digging Routh, and I'm expecting a good movie... BUT why can't we have a single picture or poster or anything be as cool as the new Spiderman 3 poster??? It's so subtle, so cool (the black costume... wow.) That's what we need.

Umm.. Marketing for a less serious toned more MTV generation film (Spidey III) is going to be different :o

[The Punisher]

Umm.. Marketing for a less serious toned more MTV generation film (Spidey III) is going to be different :o

SM3 will be different, a darker tome to it and i look forward to that.

[Mentok]

They are keeping Superman as secret as they can. They want the Trailer to be the big unveiling of Supes.

[Cinemaman]

and another Noob question:

What's with the earthquakes? In the first Superman, Lex caused a major earthquake on the west coast. Superman struggled with that. Now, from what I gather, New Krypton will cause catastrophic global earthquakes. I'm assuming Superman will really struggle with that. But does anybody else see a weakness in the writing there? Enough with earthquakes.

(I'm coming across really negative tonight... keep in mind I'm not.)

It will be more global cataclism than just earthquakes.

The Earth will be damaged, Lex wants it to be destroy like was with Krypton.

[I Am The Knight]

It will be more global cataclism than just earthquakes.

The Earth will be damaged, Lex wants it to be destroy like was with Krypton.

Luthor wants to destroy Earth? Is that what you're saying? :confused: That's......Something. Heh.

[Morg]

Luthor wants to destroy Earth? Is that what you're saying? :confused: That's......Something. Heh.


No, Lurthor made a mistake using Kryptontian technology and things get out of his hands

[explode7]

Hey guys how about this for a plot. Its lex that really destroyed superman's planet via a time machine to prevent him from ever being born so as not to become that torn in his side in the future. But lex being unaware, supes parents transported him in a ship to Earth. What do you guys think?

[Red X]

What can kill Superman?

[ToddIsDead]

Kryptonite poisoning, he's vulnerable to magic, and when Doomsday killed him, it was just by beating him to death.

[spideydave]

When New Krypton is built what colour will it be?

In the clips that Singer showed at Wondercon they showed Luthor holdingNew Krypton and it was clear. When light touched it it flashed green, red, and black.

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Whats the overall view of SR on these boards? Positive?

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Whats the overall view of SR on these boards? Positive?


mixed... but i would say that more possitive comments appear everyday.

[Iceman/Psylocke]

mixed... but i would say that more possitive comments appear everyday.

OK - How is Bryan Singer viewed - Is he the man for the job

& how do Supes fans view the X-Men films?

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

OK - How is Bryan Singer viewed - Is he the man for the job

& how do Supes fans view the X-Men films?

Yes i believe everyone thinks hes the right man for the job,

there are mixed views on X3 but i think most like the first two..of cause i can't really speak for everyone.

[Sverdlovski]

Well, when Singer was hired, people here praised him a lot, the X-men movies were awesome and he was a right choice for Superman.... the X-fans were disappointed and concerned.

But after a while, suddenly Bryan Singer was overrated and the X-films were mediocre at best... and on the X-boards people started to say they were glad Singer left, and the third movie would be better with Vaugh/Ratner.

Go figure.

[Iceman/Psylocke]

I think this is because the standards were raised by the X films & Spiderman/Batman Begins - When X1 came out there weren't as high expectations as there are nowadays

Singer is a very solid director who will produce good films but he is not really great

Also Ratner was an unpopular choice when he came aboard but he has the advantage of being an X-Men fan & that is beginning to show with some of the choices he is making - therefore a lot of fans are slowly changing their mind

What other directors were wanted by Superman fans prior to Singer?

[Cinemaman]

I think X-Men fans don't like Singer's films, because he didn't include story of every character from comics about X-Men.

[Sverdlovski]

What other directors were wanted by Superman fans prior to Singer?

Well, basically we didn't want McG. And JJ Abrahms script.

[CouchQuarterbck]

This may seem like a dumb question, but...

Superman never has been as, well, visually pleasing as other heroes like Spiderman, X-Men, or even Batman. He's always seemed kind bland to me, and photos of him for the movie only cement my theory. So, what I'm asking is, is Superman going to be a boring superhero for people who aren't big fans of the comic?

[I Am The Knight]

This may seem like a dumb question, but...

Superman never has been as, well, visually pleasing as other heroes like Spiderman, X-Men, or even Batman. He's always seemed kind bland to me, and photos of him for the movie only cement my theory. So, what I'm asking is, is Superman going to be a boring superhero for people who aren't big fans of the comic?

Well, that depends on the overall execution of the movie (characterization, script, whatEVA.) so....**Starts spinning head like Linda Blair**

[Cinemaman]

This may seem like a dumb question, but...

Superman never has been as, well, visually pleasing as other heroes like Spiderman, X-Men, or even Batman. He's always seemed kind bland to me, and photos of him for the movie only cement my theory. So, what I'm asking is, is Superman going to be a boring superhero for people who aren't big fans of the comic?

Hay, Superman has a character too.

He has also poorlys too.

[Il_Siciliano]

Superman MOST DEFINITELY has also poorlys.

[Il_Siciliano]

Cinnamon (sorry Showtime, it really is quite funny) ti otkouda? ti skazal chto ti ne russki.

[Cinemaman]

Cinnamon (sorry Showtime, it really is quite funny) ti otkouda? ti skazal chto ti ne russki.

Ya iz Rossii, no ya armenian.

Eto vse ravno, chto ispanec iz america.

[Il_Siciliano]

ponimaiu. spasibo.

[Cinemaman]

ponimaiu. spasibo.

A tы horosho znaesh ruskii??

[Il_Siciliano]

немного у плохо! :)

[SolidSnakeMGS]

What's a poorly?:confused:

[CouchQuarterbck]

What's a poorly?:confused:

Glad I'm not the only one wondering....

[user123456789]

Any new news on the game trailer?

[Mentok]

Any new news on the game trailer?

It will be posted on www.bluetights.net on the 28th... 2 more days.

[user123456789]

excellent. ty mentok

[I Am The Knight]

The real budget of the film........anyone?

[Mentok]

The real budget of the film........anyone?

Singer has said $184 Million.

[CouchQuarterbck]

Singer has said $184 Million.

Doesn't that seem a little low for a big-budget film like this? Maybe I'm greedy, but I would think a movie of this caliber would pull out all the stops, and at least be on par with Spidey, since everybody's going to immediately compare it to that anyway....

[Mentok]

Doesn't that seem a little low for a big-budget film like this? Maybe I'm greedy, but I would think a movie of this caliber would pull out all the stops, and at least be on par with Spidey, since everybody's going to immediately compare it to that anyway....

Filming was done in Australia. The US dollar buys more. Production costs are much cheaper in Aus too.

[CouchQuarterbck]

Filming was done in Australia. The US dollar buys more. Production costs are much cheaper in Aus too.

Ahhh....I see. Well, then, nevermind. In fact, kudos for going to Australia. Let's hope the logic pays off...

[I Am The Knight]

$184 million is very good for this type of movie......**Sends Nolan to Australia**

[warren_sparta27]

yay my country was actually good for something for a change :p

my parents were on holiday in sydney while they were filming, i went about a week later and didnt get to see anything :(

[Cinemaman]

Doesn't that seem a little low for a big-budget film like this? Maybe I'm greedy, but I would think a movie of this caliber would pull out all the stops, and at least be on par with Spidey, since everybody's going to immediately compare it to that anyway....

All movies, which has more than $130m in their budget are movies with BIG budget.

[Cinemaman]

немного у плохо! :)

молодец!

[Sverdlovski]

Ahhh....I see. Well, then, nevermind. In fact, kudos for going to Australia. Let's hope the logic pays off...

And, according to executive produceer Chris Lee:

We're shooting at the Fox Studios Sydney (built with government incentives), the same lot used for the recent Star Wars films and the Matrix Trilogy. Warner Brothers' decision is based on the favorable exchange rate, the Australian government's 12.5 percent rebate on all production expenditures (no cap), and a broad infrastructure of crews, equipment and ample stage space (we're using all seven stages on this lot, each of them at least twice the size of Hawai'i's Diamond Head facility). (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=557)


www.superman-v.com

[warren_sparta27]

i'm sorry if this has been asked before, just searching through all these posts isn't that fun.

is this a sequal to Supperman III, or has Singer forgotten all about it?

also when will we get to see Superman fight a costumed supervillian, Lex is great and but come on :(

[Mister J]

i'm sorry if this has been asked before, just searching through all these posts isn't that fun.

is this a sequal to Supperman III, or has Singer forgotten all about it?

also when will we get to see Superman fight a costumed supervillian, Lex is great and but come on :(

The early line was that SR uses a 'vague history' of the first two Superman movies. It uses certain elements from that continuity, such as Jonathan Kent being dead. During his recent Wonder-Con appearance, Singer was asked the question directly and responded, "Yeah, basically".

Lex is the only villain for this movie. From what I understand, as a result of his time in prison, Luthor is supposed to be a bit hardened as not as campy as the original movies. I haven't heard anything about super-villains in any proposed sequel, but I would imagine so. I'd like to see Brainiac, Metallo or possibly Darkseid.

[warren_sparta27]

so it's a rough sequal to superman II cheers ;)

i heard Lex would be more of a challenge to Superman, but still, i'd like to see a costumed villian

cheers Mister J

[Mister J]

so it's a rough sequal to superman II cheers ;)

i heard Lex would be more of a challenge to Superman, but still, i'd like to see a costumed villian

cheers Mister J
:up:

[Dupi]

Hi!
Is SR a sequel to the original SII or a sequel to the Donner Cut?

[patrickbateman]

what happen to all the hugh jackman as pa kent rumours?

[Sverdlovski]

what happen to all the hugh jackman as pa kent rumours?

Fake.

[Sverdlovski]

Hi!
Is SR a sequel to the original SII or a sequel to the Donner Cut?

I don't think it'll make a difference.... Donner's version would've been a much better film than the current SII, but they basically tell the same story.

[explode7]

I have a question. When are we getting something significant concerning SR to whine and b**ch I mean talk about?

[Mentok]

what happen to all the hugh jackman as pa kent rumours?

Yeah they were fake.

Jackman visited the set and had lunch with SInger and Routh (all good since Singer and Jackman have become grat friends).

There was some talk that Jackman was asked to be in Singers LOGANS RUN film.

[Zigno]

pls answer: brandon will be in the oscars???

[Agentdemon]

doubt it.

[Showtime]

I haven't seen him in the Red Carpet show or anywhere in the crowd so far. I'll let you know if he pops up. I don't think so though, next year definately.

[Superman \S/]

He's not at the Oscars but they did open the show with movies from the past and it showed CR as Superman flying across the screen. It was a great shot.

[Superman \S/]

And yes, i think he'll be there next year.

[Showtime]

He's not at the Oscars but they did open the show with movies from the past and it showed CR as Superman flying across the screen. It was a great shot.

I missed that but it's a great representation of things to come. Thanks for sharing.

[Showtime]

And yes, i think he'll be there next year.

I most definately think he'll be there in some fashion, as a presenter or in the auidience.

I also think that Superman Returns will have a presence in the nominee categories. Cinematography, Art Direction, Wadrobe.

[Metropolis_Man]

He's not at the Oscars but they did open the show with movies from the past and it showed CR as Superman flying across the screen. It was a great shot.

Yeah, I happened to be watching when they showed that. I saw the Batmobile zoom by, then Spider Man perched on a pole and it was sweet for them to sort of end it with Reeve flying around as Superman. Very great shot.

[Showtime]

Yeah, I happened to be watching when they showed that. I saw the Batmobile zoom by, then Spider Man perched on a pole and it was sweet for them to sort of end it with Reeve flying around as Superman. Very great shot.

Just shows how fashionable superhero movies have become to the general public.

[explode7]

^ The best shot was with spiderman in it.

[Showtime]

^ The best shot was with spiderman in it.

Of course you would say that. :spidey: :up:

[explode7]

NO actually I said just for u to hear.

[Showtime]

NO actually I said just for u to hear.

I know...that's why I am responding? :supes:

[Marine]

There's all sorts of modern tech about, but everyone dresses like they're stuck in the 40's and 50's

[TheSuperBatFan]

the movie takes place in 2006.

[Venom71]

There's all sorts of modern tech about, but everyone dresses like they're stuck in the 40's and 50's
2006

[Mentok]

Its set in 06 but has been designed to have a timeless feel.

[The Game]

2005

[Orko Is King]

It's timeless.

[Gold Samurai]

it has that look that would make it the perfect setting for a "batman TAS" live action movie mixing 1940's with flat screens and laptops. I'd like to see what the batman of that universe looks like maybe it would be the quintessentale

[Showtime]

There's all sorts of modern tech about, but everyone dresses like they're stuck in the 40's and 50's

Thats what they are trying to convey. The timeless feel that Mentok is refering to intertwined with modern technology. I think it's going to be perfection.

[Metropolis_Man]

I really like the look of this film. I really would like to see a modern Superman movie set around the mid 30's to earl 40's borrowing a lot from the early days. But I like how Returns is looking, its definately set with new technology, possibly even futurstic in some points, yet it still feels like it takes place in a past time. I agree that it helps keep that timeless feel.

[Cinemaman]

I most definately think he'll be there in some fashion, as a presenter or in the auidience.

I also think that Superman Returns will have a presence in the nominee categories. Cinematography, Art Direction, Wadrobe.

I think SR will nominations for "Best Achievement in Visual Effects", "Best Achievement in Sound Editing" and "Best Achievement in Art Direction".

[Cinemaman]

2005

Agreed. On DP newspaper there was 2000, then as we know the kid will be 4. So it can be 2005, but with retrostyle design.

[Showtime]

I think SR will nominations for "Best Achievement in Visual Effects", "Best Achievement in Sound Editing" and "Best Achievement in Art Direction".

Sounds good man!

[Bad Superman]

The period is 1,9402,006ish. ;)

Seriously? Timeless is the best description.

[Metropolis_Man]

The period is 1,9402,006ish. ;)

Seriously? Timeless is the best description.

Are you sure? Can this be confirmed sir? What are your sources? I think you might be off by 3 years.

[Showtime]

Are you sure? Can this be confirmed sir? What are your sources? I think you might be off by 3 years.

Maybe more off even than that.

[Metropolis_Man]

Maybe more off even than that.

What? You have got to be kidding me man. I thought he had nailed it almost, just a few years away, but now you're telling me superman returns is set further back than 1,9402,006ish.

[Showtime]

What? You have got to be kidding me man. I thought he had nailed it almost, just a few years away, but now you're telling me superman returns is set further back than 1,9402,006ish.

Don't worry, I will call the people and have it changed.

[Metropolis_Man]

Don't worry, I will call the people and have it changed.

I'm glad you've got these kind of connections. Could you get them to set it in the 15th melinia?

[Superman \S/]

It's timeless.

Best way to put it.

[Mister J]

I agree in saying that the timeless feel is best. I'm glad they're acknowledging the current time period with the news article dates, but the viewing the movie should be as seamless as possible. I don't want the movie to become dated down the line.

[Superman \S/]

I agree in saying that the timeless feel is best. I'm glad they're acknowledging the current time period with the news article dates, but the viewing the movie should be as seamless as possible. I don't want the movie to become dated down the line.

:up:

[Cinemaman]

Sounds good man!

Yep :up:

It would be GREAT :supes:

[Metropolis_Man]

I believe its going to have that feel to where you could watch it now, and 20 years from now and it still doesn't seem old. I think the attention to detail will really help this movie soar.

[Showtime]

I believe its going to have that feel to where you could watch it now, and 20 years from now and it still doesn't seem old. I think the attention to detail will really help this movie soar.

If STM and SUPERMAN 2 still resonate today, than this movie will still most deflinately be TIMELESS.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Attn: Noob question.:O :o

Has anyone heard a definite on when we'll see a full-length trailer for SR?

[Showtime]

Attn: Noob question.:O :o

Has anyone heard a definite on when we'll see a full-length trailer for SR?

Singer is saying sometime in April.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Its very early april..

[Showtime]

i am still holding out hope for late March, but don't tell Robo.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

i am still holding out hope for late March, but don't tell Robo.

too late.

:D

[Showtime]

too late.

:D

Damn.

[Superman4ever]

Damn.

LOL...:D

[Superman \S/]

Damn.

To funny lol. :up: :)

[Metropolis_Man]

If STM and SUPERMAN 2 still resonate today, than this movie will still most deflinately be TIMELESS.

Do you think there will be more use for Jimmy this time. Maybe we actually see him out there getting in the way, taking pictures?

[Showtime]

Do you think there will be more use for Jimmy this time. Maybe we actually see him out there getting in the way, taking pictures?

I think Jimmy will have a more vital role in Returns, even more so than the first four movies combined.

[Metropolis_Man]

I think Jimmy will have a more vital role in Returns, even more so than the first four movies combined.

Great! I think a lot of the characters were very underused in the old ones. I sure hope they hit the nail on the head here. It seems like it. I think all the characters will get better treatment this time around.

[Showtime]

Jimmy is straight out of the comics, not like that frizzy haired freak from the first four movies.

[Metropolis_Man]

Jimmy is straight out of the comics, not like that frizzy haired freak from the first four movies.


:up: :up: :up: :up: Good!! He had very few lines before, so it was hard to show how he was such good pals with Clark or Superman. They worked on it some in Supes 3 but not much. I'm looking forward to it.

[Showtime]

They tried it out on Superman 3 but they forgot about it in the first two movies.

[Metropolis_Man]

They tried it out on Superman 3 but they forgot about it in the first two movies.

Yeah, I still don't see how Jimmy and Superman were such good pals, and why Superman liked Lois so much...never really showed that much interaction, enough for me tobelieve they'd be attracted to one another. From whats been seen thus far though, I think all these over looked details are much more important this time around.

[Showtime]

Yeah, I still don't see how Jimmy and Superman were such good pals, and why Superman liked Lois so much...never really showed that much interaction, enough for me tobelieve they'd be attracted to one another. From whats been seen thus far though, I think all these over looked details are much more important this time around.

I think they showed a great interaction between Superman and Lois in the Donner/Lester movies. Lois and Superman flying, Superman going apehouse and turning back time to save her, Superman giving up his powers.

[Metropolis_Man]

I think they showed a great interaction between Superman and Lois in the Donner/Lester movies. Lois and Superman flying, Superman going apehouse and turning back time to save her, Superman giving up his powers.

Yeah, I mean it showed them together a lot, but I never did understand why Superman liked her so much, I just didnt feel that they explained that very well. May just be me though??

[Showtime]

Yeah, I mean it showed them together a lot, but I never did understand why Superman liked her so much, I just didnt feel that they explained that very well. May just be me though??

You mean you didn't think she was attractive and why like her when it could be anybody. Basically she was his first connection to Metropolis, so that is probably the reason.

[Metropolis_Man]

You mean you didn't think she was attractive and why like her when it could be anybody. Basically she was his first connection to Metropolis, so that is probably the reason.

Yes yes, I see your point here. I mean, its not that bad, its still good for the movie and her being his first connection is about all you can really do too. I guess I'm just thinking to hard into it, haha.

[Showtime]

Yes yes, I see your point here. I mean, its not that bad, its still good for the movie and her being his first connection is about all you can really do too. I guess I'm just thinking to hard into it, haha.

Well Margot Kidder isn't as petite and cute as Kate. It's a whole different Lois.

[Metropolis_Man]

Well Margot Kidder isn't as petite and cute as Kate. It's a whole different Lois.

Yeah, I hate to down Margot, but I agree. I think they could've had a better Lois in my honest opinion. It still worked good on screen though, like I said its not that bad really, I was just looking too much into it.

[Showtime]

Yeah, I hate to down Margot, but I agree. I think they could've had a better Lois in my honest opinion. It still worked good on screen though, like I said its not that bad really, I was just looking too much into it.

If you watch the screentests, there were several actresses that could have done the job.

[Metropolis_Man]

If you watch the screentests, there were several actresses that could have done the job.

Yeah, would've been nice if Nick Notle would've landed the role as Lois!!:)

[Showtime]

Yeah, would've been nice if Nick Notle would've landed the role as Lois!!:)

I think you mean Superman, but who knows what the hell you mean.

[Metropolis_Man]

I think you mean Superman, but who knows what the hell you mean.

No, I meant Lois. I really think Nick Nolte would've been perfect as Lois Lane.

[Showtime]

No, I meant Lois. I really think Nick Nolte would've been perfect as Lois Lane.

He does have a nice rack. :hyper:

[Metropolis_Man]

He does have a nice rack. :hyper:

Oh boy, does he ever. Is that the Tick smilie?

[Showtime]

I pulled that one out of thin air.

[Metropolis_Man]

I'd like to see a new Returns symbol smilie. I'm sure someones made that already though.

[Showtime]

I am shocked we don't have that already.

[Metropolis_Man]

Im sure there is one floating around somewhere. If not maybe someone reading this could make one for all of us to use!!!