View Full Version : the invisible woman versus????
3dman27
02-16-2006, 01:07 PM
i got the idea for this from gee's "mr fantastc vs" thread
if susie had to go ono on one with somebody who'd it be and how would she do???
Kelly
02-16-2006, 01:16 PM
given the right circumstances, family in immediate danger.....she could kick anyone's ass.....LOL
Aidan06
02-18-2006, 04:58 PM
well, shes not really much of a fighter, more of a defender with her barrier abilitys, so i wouldnt say she could fight well on her own
Kelly
02-18-2006, 07:24 PM
well, shes not really much of a fighter, more of a defender with her barrier abilitys, so i wouldnt say she could fight well on her own
She has fought on her own.....ask the hulk....ask Ben.....ask Super Skrull...
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/1510/sueskrull13as.jpg
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/6743/sueskrull24ll.jpg
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/8222/sueskrull36tf.jpg
As of now....barrier's are the least of her power......
She's not defending anyone here......she's kicking Super Skrull's ass....
you mess w/ her family.....everything else about Sue is thrown out the window.....
CaptainStacy
02-19-2006, 12:06 AM
Agreed.
In The X-Men vs Fantastic Four mini series from awhile back, Sue took out Rogue, Dazzler, and Longshot all by herself in just a few seconds, iirc...
I always thought that was pretty cool, lol.
Kelly
02-19-2006, 07:23 PM
As a member of the new Fantastic Four, Sue was at first the weakest link. She could turn invisible (duh!) but that was it, and she wasn't particularly strong. But Sue eventually discovered that she had another power---the ability to create invisible force fields. Over the years, Susan became much more adept at using these powers. For example, instead of just using her force field for defensive purposes, Sue can also use them as a weapon to attack foes. Indeed, Sue has been able to single handedly defeat the Thing, the She-Hulk (both with altered personalities), Titania, and the Absorbing Man. Her force-field has managed to sustain attacks by nuclear explosions and the Hulk. Today, one can convincingly argue that she is now the most powerful member of the Fantastic Four.Furthermore, while Susan cannot fly, she can use her force field to elevate herself and others through the air---as high as ten miles above the surface of the Earth. (Valeria is especially fond of using this power to "surf" through the air, much to the chagrin of Susan, who worries about her daughter losing concentration in mid-air.) In addition to making herself invisible, Susan can also extend a field of invisibility to include other objects or persons. Finally, although this is not a "power" granted to her through cosmic radiation, Sue has trained extensively in martial arts since becoming one of the Fantastic Four and currently holds a black belt in judo, karate, and shaolin kung fu. Also, since her run in with Malice and Psychoman, she can move into people's minds that she has a connection w/ as in "Psychoman"...because he did the same to her....in a recent MK issue this is dealt with.
3dman27
02-20-2006, 06:14 AM
given her line of work ,self defense lessons would be advisable
Kelly
02-20-2006, 10:50 AM
given her line of work ,self defense lessons would be advisable
As in the MK version: teacher....LMAO....:up: :eek: :p
3dman27
02-20-2006, 12:57 PM
i don't read the out of continuity mk version
Kelly
02-20-2006, 01:22 PM
i don't read the out of continuity mk version
Its a hell of alot closer than the UFF...
The kids are the same age in the MK and Reg....etc...etc....etc....
The only difference is that Sue is a teacher....everything else is pretty much the same....
is MK not part of regular continuity? i always thought it was. just different stories.
anyway sue can beat almost anyone who relies on oxygen, she is also tough against those who don't. someone like superman would take her down but it would take someone like that. syrin and songbird can beat her because he powers do not stop sound.
shes awesome tho, and what a body too!
Kelly
02-26-2006, 05:11 PM
is MK not part of regular continuity? i always thought it was. just different stories.
anyway sue can beat almost anyone who relies on oxygen, she is also tough against those who don't. someone like superman would take her down but it would take someone like that. syrin and songbird can beat her because he powers do not stop sound.
shes awesome tho, and what a body too!
Lets have Supes grab Valeria or Franklin....and just see what happens....LOL;)
Aidan06
02-26-2006, 06:10 PM
woah...and here was me thinking she sucked because of her performence in fights in the movie..i see her on a total different scale now, taking into consideration the fact that she took out those people in the xmen vs fantastic 4 mini series..
Kelly
02-26-2006, 06:12 PM
woah...and here was me thinking she sucked because of her performence in fights in the movie..i see her on a total different scale now, taking into consideration the fact that she took out those people in the xmen vs fantastic 4 mini series..
Remember the movie was just an introduction to their powers....i have a feeling we will see much more from her in the sequel...:up:
3dman27
03-28-2006, 09:16 AM
any more ideas for sue's opponents?
MichaelRGrimm
04-23-2006, 10:33 AM
SPOLILER WARNING MK4#28
In MK4 #28 Sue is threatening a powerful lawyer who has been physically and emotionally abusing his wife. In it, she shows how precise she has become manipulating her forcefields. To the point she puts a "tiny" squeeze on some internal organs to prove what she could do to the man and never leave any evidence of it behind if he was to ever mess with the woman again. There really is not too many opponents out there anymore she could not put down big time given the right circumstances. Anymore it kind of looks like the ones she would be most vulnerable to in a fight are those that can become intangible.
Kelly
04-23-2006, 01:17 PM
SPOLILER WARNING MK4#28
In MK4 #28 Sue is threatening a powerful lawyer who has been physically and emotionally abusing his wife. In it, she shows how precise she has become manipulating her forcefields. To the point she puts a "tiny" squeeze on some internal organs to prove what she could do to the man and never leave any evidence of it behind if he was to ever mess with the woman again. There really is not too many opponents out there anymore she could not put down big time given the right circumstances. Anymore it kind of looks like the ones she would be most vulnerable to in a fight are those that can become intangible.
You know thats really kind of cool if you think about it.....the one person in Marveldom that could be the most ruthless is in reality and personality one of the kindest....very cool in my opinion.
MichaelRGrimm
04-23-2006, 05:31 PM
You know thats really kind of cool if you think about it.....the one person in Marveldom that could be the most ruthless is in reality and personality one of the kindest....very cool in my opinion.
That is the great thing about Sue and all of the Fantastic four, any one of them could be ruthless and take the easy way out when it comes to a fight, but they don't. They show great restraint and find other ways and succeed. It kind of puts the "hero" back in superhero.
Iron Maiden
04-23-2006, 11:35 PM
Sue has also trained in the martial arts with Iron Fist for a time so she can bring those skills to bear too I remember in FF 1234, she threatened to put tiny little force field bubbles in Victor's brain, which would probably cause a stroke. She can kick major @$$ when she has to but she would be very reluctant to use her powers in a lethal manner unless provoked. You get the feeling that if she were able to, she would walk away from the superhero thing and just have a normal family life with Reed and the children.
Kelly
04-24-2006, 05:32 AM
Sue has also trained in the martial arts with Iron Fist for a time so she can bring those skills to bear too I remember in FF 1234, she threatened to put tiny little force field bubbles in Victor's brain, which would probably cause a stroke. She can kick major @$$ when she has to but she would be very reluctant to use her powers in a lethal manner unless provoked. You get the feeling that if she were able to, she would walk away from the superhero thing and just have a normal family life with Reed and the children.
i thought the same thing about her wanting to walk away until i believe its MK damn can't remember which one, anyway she and Reed are talking on the roof, and Reed is talking about how Franklin was so happy when they all had normal jobs and a normal life....and she says....but thats not who they are....they are the Fantastic Four, and thats who they should be....
Soonerfan
05-17-2006, 11:16 AM
I also believe Susan can beat any character in both the M.U. and DC, i also believe that out of all the heroes in the M.U. Susan is probably the only one who can single handedly beat Galactus. And i also agree whole heartedly that she is the most powerful of the four, think about it. Remember when Terrax raised Manattan into orbit to blackmail the F.F. into fighting Galactus, and how Susan projected a force field aroud the island to protect the people amd to keep the sir in? She wasn't as strong as she is now, that's why i posted the above about her single handedly beating Galactus.
But back to the question of who she shouls face off against, I would have to say it would be against someone she could really unleash her powers against with out holding back. And there are only two characters..okay maybe three (That i know of.), that she could do this against. One is the aforementioned Galactus, two would have to be the Beyonder, (Whatever happened to him anyway?) three i'd say Mephisto.
Soonerfan!!
Iron Maiden
05-18-2006, 09:26 AM
The Beyonder was merged with the Molecule Man and became a Cosmic Cube. I think this was back in FF#319-320, when Doom tackled the Beyonder about getting his memory back after he got caught up in that time loop that started when the Beyonder brought him into the Secret Wars.
Kelly
05-18-2006, 11:41 AM
SPOLILER WARNING MK4#28
In MK4 #28 Sue is threatening a powerful lawyer who has been physically and emotionally abusing his wife. In it, she shows how precise she has become manipulating her forcefields. To the point she puts a "tiny" squeeze on some internal organs to prove what she could do to the man and never leave any evidence of it behind if he was to ever mess with the woman again. There really is not too many opponents out there anymore she could not put down big time given the right circumstances. Anymore it kind of looks like the ones she would be most vulnerable to in a fight are those that can become intangible.
Or those that she loves the most....:) I just got that particular MK4 issue the other day....she was scary in that one....scared herself even....
Franklin Richards
05-25-2006, 02:28 PM
Little optimistic with all that Galactus talk. Galactus can just suck the power right out of Sue. But points for the faith in Sue. :D
As for Sue's powers, don't forget how she's been turning people optic nerves invisible lately, in effect blinding people. That's a fine tuned power she's been using lately.
I'd like to see Invisible Woman vs Phoenix in a sweet matchup. I have no idea how a Sue vs Jean Grey would turn out. But it would be one heck of a show.
:thing: :doom: :thing:
Ben Grimm
06-17-2006, 08:21 PM
I really don't think Sue could take Glactus. Maybe she could rough him up, but not full out beat him. He has the powers of the cosmos at his beckon call. All he needs to do, is create a beam to atomize Sue. And If Galactus were to punch Sue's force field hard enough, it would create a feedback that would knock her out, or make her brain damaged or somethintg... She can barely keep an enraged/Savage Hulk at bay with her forcefields Galactus is alot bigger and stronger than Hulk. Then agian, I'm the guy who has almost all the FF comics, but never finds time to read them.
Just my Opinion. Take it as you wish.
Punching Out.
3dman27
07-19-2006, 06:29 AM
i think i've found the perfect opponent for sue to tangle with strictly hand to hand
JESSICA ALBA:ff:
3dman27
07-19-2006, 06:30 AM
EDIT double post
Soonerfan
08-03-2006, 11:19 AM
I know she can't now that I think about it, what I meant was I would really love to see her face an opponent that she could really lash out with the full extent of her powers.
Like for instance forming Wolverine like claws with her field, you know something creative than what she normally uses her powers for. Can you imagine if some villian does to Susan like what Psycho-Man did to her, and turns her into an assassin or some such.
Susan has the potential to become one of the most deadliest geneticaly altered beings in the marvel Universe, if it wasn't for her compassion to help those in need---whew--- just think of the carnage she could do.
Kelly
08-03-2006, 01:05 PM
I know she can't now that I think about it, what I meant was I would really love to see her face an opponent that she could really lash out with the full extent of her powers.
Like for instance forming Wolverine like claws with her field, you know something creative than what she normally uses her powers for. Can you imagine if some villian does to Susan like what Psycho-Man did to her, and turns her into an assassin or some such.
Susan has the potential to become one of the most deadliest geneticaly altered beings in the marvel Universe, if it wasn't for her compassion to help those in need---whew--- just think of the carnage she could do.
Very true, I think thats part of why her character is so cool.....
Soonerfan
08-03-2006, 02:26 PM
I agree with you, Susan's compassion makes her one of the unique female heroines at both Marvel and DC. And I think that's why she's has been and will always remain my favorite female character.
Something just hit me and correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Susan the first female comic character to not only marry but also to become pregnant? Which I just want to say even though it's decades late, cudos to marvel for showing the whole nine month long pregnancy with not only Frank, but also with Val. Of course she supposedly lost Val in child birth which I believe was another first in comics, of course that great moment in F.F. history was destroyed with whomever came up with the idea of having Franklyn use his powers like he did. He or she should be taken out tarred and feathered for destroying for that.
I for one liked the concept of Susan and Doom having a child together, but no they throw that into our faces... oops I'm babbling and going off topic. I apologize for that folks, before I shut up I have one question to ask all of you. Who would you love to see Susan battle?
Keep safe.
3dman27
09-25-2006, 04:32 PM
sue vs tigra
3dman27
09-25-2006, 05:36 PM
or ms marvel
Venomfan
10-25-2006, 12:51 AM
phoenix would destroy her, cant phoenix destory galaxies? id like to see Sue fight Juggernaut. i get the feeling though it would be a never ending fight, unless Sue is now a telepath? if she isnt theres no way she could hurt him, i guess he would be able to walk through her forcefields since nothing can stop him, but she can easily stay ahead of him and i dunno piss him off until he gets bored and leaves
Silicon Surfer
10-25-2006, 05:17 AM
I believe that Terrax created the forcefield around Manhattan. Sue made it visible. Galactus has an almost infinite number of ways to defeat Sue that do not involve breaking her forcefield such as sending an energy bolt through another dimension or even time to reemerge inside her field. Telepathy has also been known to go straight through her field. Since hyperspace is the source of her power he could probably cut her off from it and knock out her power temporarily.
Malus
10-25-2006, 10:16 PM
Of course she supposedly lost Val in child birth which I believe was another first in comics, of course that great moment in F.F. history was destroyed with whomever came up with the idea of having Franklin use his powers like he did. He or she should be taken out tarred and feathered for destroying that.
I believe that would be Carlos Pacheco with the scripting assistance of Jeph Loeb. Two guys whose work I otherwise respect but who had (in my opinion) no knack for the FF.
The undoing of Sue's miscarriage is up there with JMS' destruction of Gwen Stacey, as far as I'm concerned. It was one of John Byrne's most powerful moments, and now it's practically meaningless.
New writers should make their own mark on the characters.
They shouldn't undo what was done right.
3dman27
02-04-2007, 08:38 AM
fantasti-bump
The Apatow Crew
02-05-2007, 07:22 AM
i think i've found the perfect opponentfor sue to tanglewith strictly hand to hand
JESSICA ALBAI'd pay to see that.:yay: :woot:
3dman27
02-05-2007, 03:03 PM
I'd pay to see that.:yay: :woot:
so would i thats why i mentioned it:ninja:
The Apatow Crew
02-05-2007, 03:15 PM
so would i thats why i mentioned it:ninja:But what would they be wearing?:o
3dman27
02-05-2007, 03:17 PM
whatever you imagine thier wearing an new ideas for opponents?:ff:
3dman27
03-21-2007, 06:04 AM
Very true, I think thats part of why her character is so cool.....
nice avatar
claire bennet[heroes] vs susan?
Kelly
03-21-2007, 09:22 AM
nice avatar
claire bennet[heroes] vs susan?
Which one is she? The teenager?
If its the teenager, Sue could win, but we would have to get pretty icky in doing so.....
Suffocate her, then.....well I don't want to go further than to say......unless she can generate a new body from a leg....well you can go from there....
3dman27
03-21-2007, 02:18 PM
yes ms pantierre's character
Kelly
03-21-2007, 02:41 PM
yes ms pantierre's character
Well as I said, there is a way to do it....but it would be pretty icky......:wow: :dry:
3dman27
03-23-2007, 06:14 AM
thanks to johnny blaze for this ides susan richards vs red sonja
Kelly
03-23-2007, 06:57 AM
thanks to johnny blaze for this ides susan richards vs red sonja
The fact that Sue can close off an air passage within seconds, stop a tidal wave, engulf a nuclear explosion......
Unless she is taken totally off guard or her own energy is used against as in one of the recent MK editions where she was enranged by one of the Inhumans for going after her son, I don't see that there is much anyone can do....
3dman27
03-24-2007, 10:31 AM
painkiller jane vs susan?
3dman27
03-25-2007, 06:22 AM
jessica jones vs susan
3dman27
03-28-2007, 06:14 AM
whatever you imagine thier wearing an new ideas for opponents?:ff:
yeah i can't be the only poster who's in fight promoter mode here:ff:
3dman27
06-05-2007, 11:54 AM
jamie sommers from nbc's upcoming BIONIC WOMAN remake
Silicon Surfer
06-05-2007, 02:11 PM
Sue vs Binary? Or Rachel? Kismet? Shanga the Star Dancer?
3dman27
06-05-2007, 04:11 PM
very good more, more
SuperFerret
06-05-2007, 04:25 PM
Sue vs. a Green Lantern
Silicon Surfer
06-05-2007, 05:25 PM
Or Star Sapphire.
kedrell
06-06-2007, 12:20 PM
Sue vs. a Green Lantern
Now that's what I'd like to see. Construct vs. Construct. I'd say Sue wins since she doesn't need to be connected by a beam of energy to whatever she's making, but GL does. Also her power is innate, while his is dependent on his ring. If GL has his green force field up that still won't stop Sue from exploding his body from the inside out simply by materializing a force bubble inside him without having to break through his field. Or she could just explode his hand rendering him not in contact with the ring anymore and thus powerless. Same for Star Sapphire.
Silicon Surfer
06-06-2007, 01:43 PM
Now that's what I'd like to see. Construct vs. Construct. I'd say Sue wins since she doesn't need to be connected by a beam of energy to whatever she's making, but GL does. Also her power is innate, while his is dependent on his ring. If GL has his green force field up that still won't stop Sue from exploding his body from the inside out simply by materializing a force bubble inside him without having to break through his field. Or she could just explode his hand rendering him not in contact with the ring anymore and thus powerless. Same for Star Sapphire.
Sue is connected to her field via a beam, however the beam is invisible. She also cannot create a field within another field because one force field cannot penetrate another. That is one of the rules of the MU. If GL has a shield up there is nothing that she can do to him. A GL might very well be able to penetrate Sue's field by using light or sound since they penetrate the shield normally. Thought energy has also penetrated the shield and that is what the Green Energy at least used to be if they have not changed it.
3dman27
06-27-2007, 06:49 AM
either pepper potts or gwynneth paltrow:ff:
*ANTHONY*
06-27-2007, 04:29 PM
invisible woman versus spider-man. spidey wins since he has spide sense.
Carnage921
06-29-2007, 03:02 PM
invisible woman versus spider-man. spidey wins since he has spide sense.
but she could make a small force field around his hands in midair. He would just shoot his webs into the bubble and fall to his death.
Kelly
06-29-2007, 06:14 PM
but she could make a small force field around his hands in midair. He would just shoot his webs into the bubble and fall to his death.
The thing is, with Sue, she could probably kick anyone's booty, but unless she is Malice........she would never kill someone. That would be the weakness that would end up being her demise....
Carnage921
06-29-2007, 07:33 PM
The thing is, with Sue, she could probably kick anyone's booty, but unless she is Malice........she would never kill someone. That would be the weakness that would end up being her demise....
well after spidey begins to fall, catch him in a forcefield, even though hitting it might hurt, and start fighting again.
Kelly
06-29-2007, 08:39 PM
well after spidey begins to fall, catch him in a forcefield, even though hitting it might hurt, and start fighting again.
That's what I'm saying.....all she would have to do is place a bubble in his head, heart, and explode it.....so her killing him would be fairly easy....BUT she wouldn't do that, and that would be the weakness that would give him the opportunity to get to her.....she doesn't have a killer instinct unless she is Malice, and even then I'm not sure that Sue's compassion wouldn't win out in the end....
Carnage921
06-29-2007, 09:03 PM
So that means that she can't ever technically win a battle.
Kelly
06-29-2007, 09:14 PM
So that means that she can't ever technically win a battle.
Depends on what you are calling "winning a battle"....if a win is the death of the other person....then probably not, unless someone in her family was in danger, and the only way to save them would be kill the other person....I think she would then.......
She has taken down several, including everyone on her team, the hulk etc.....so as far as her powers, she could probably take down most anyone, but to kill someone......I don't know that she could do that unless one of her family members was in danger of being killed.
ssj wolverine
07-04-2007, 05:19 PM
Outside of a cosmic being Susan can beat anyone's ass in MU. There is nothing that Susan could do but be a mere annoyance to Galactus. Anyone that thinks she could beat Galactus needs to lay off the weed.
Havok83
07-08-2007, 06:24 AM
Outside of a cosmic being Susan can beat anyone's ass in MU. There is nothing that Susan could do but be a mere annoyance to Galactus. Anyone that thinks she could beat Galactus needs to lay off the weed.
I havent read much of Sue or the FF at all with the exception of Marvel crossovers. What makes Sue so unbeatable?
Silicon Surfer
07-08-2007, 12:53 PM
Since light and sound penetrate Sue's shield she has no real chance against Siryn or Dazzler.
3dman27
10-20-2007, 10:45 AM
sue vs DOAdead or alive's tina armstrong
Everything Man
10-22-2007, 10:59 AM
Outside of a cosmic being Susan can beat anyone's ass in MU. There is nothing that Susan could do but be a mere annoyance to Galactus. Anyone that thinks she could beat Galactus needs to lay off the weed.
Yeah, it's kinda hard to beat someone who eats planets. No matter who you are. (Except for Chuck Norris.)
3dman27
10-23-2007, 05:50 AM
Jamie Sommers[2007 Version ]or Sarah Corbert From Bionic Woman
Or Sarah From Chuck
Kelly
10-23-2007, 07:04 PM
Jamie Sommers[2007 Version ]or Sarah Corbert From Bionic Woman
Or Sarah From Chuck
Not even a close race, Sue could take them at the same time...put them in a bubble, and watch them pass out. Done...
3dman27
10-25-2007, 05:44 AM
no powers against normal powered oppnents
hulkamania85
10-25-2007, 10:43 AM
Invisible Woman vs. The Blob
3dman27
10-26-2007, 05:55 AM
i doubt even susie force field could move mr dukes
hulkamania85
10-30-2007, 04:31 PM
i doubt even susie force field could move mr dukes
Probably not, but apparently if Franklin was threatened Susie would be able to find the strength to body slam the guy.:woot:
Silicon Surfer
10-30-2007, 05:51 PM
If the Blob threatened Franklin, Sue would be the least of his worries. Franklin would probably turn Blob into a hamster.
3dman27
10-31-2007, 05:28 AM
good piont
susie vs vampirella
Kelly
11-06-2007, 08:47 PM
Sue is connected to her field via a beam, however the beam is invisible. She also cannot create a field within another field because one force field cannot penetrate another. That is one of the rules of the MU. If GL has a shield up there is nothing that she can do to him. A GL might very well be able to penetrate Sue's field by using light or sound since they penetrate the shield normally. Thought energy has also penetrated the shield and that is what the Green Energy at least used to be if they have not changed it.
Her power is about the concentration which she has developed over the years.....a bubble in his brain and then exploding it would take less than a milisecond for her to do, while also having his ring in a forcefield...
Easy.
She has stopped a nuclear blast, I don't see GL's energy being more than a nuclear blast, but I'm not that up on his powers.
Silicon Surfer
11-06-2007, 10:04 PM
Gl's have been known to move planets in their orbits. That is something that is beyond the power of a million nukes. As I said if a GL has a shield up such as Hal used to do even before he got to a fight then Sue can only form shields on the outside of the shield which means on the outside of his body. In order to create a shield inside his body she would have to drive her force beam through his shield which is impossible because MU physics don't permit it. She could try to break his shield with hers but that is virtually impossible since GL's are much more powerful. A GL can do anything Sue can do on a greater scale and a thousand more things besides. By changing the beam to a form of energy such as sound or light that can penetrate her shield and then changing it back again inside the shield a GL could ignore her shields. A green beam could also be willed to bypass her shields by going through another dimension or even time and reentering the dimension on the other side of the shield.
javon
11-08-2007, 06:36 PM
SPOLILER WARNING MK4#28
In MK4 #28 Sue is threatening a powerful lawyer who has been physically and emotionally abusing his wife. In it, she shows how precise she has become manipulating her forcefields. To the point she puts a "tiny" squeeze on some internal organs to prove what she could do to the man and never leave any evidence of it behind if he was to ever mess with the woman again. There really is not too many opponents out there anymore she could not put down big time given the right circumstances. Anymore it kind of looks like the ones she would be most vulnerable to in a fight are those that can become intangible.
OMG Any scans?
cgcorben
11-12-2007, 03:49 PM
How about a battle of the blondes. Sue versus the Valkyrie. I'm not sure if the valkyrie is still in the marvlel line-up,but she could hold her own aginst thor and the hulk. More inportantly , who would draw the story.
3dman27
11-12-2007, 03:52 PM
How about a battle of the blondes. Sue versus the Valkyrie. I'm not sure if the valkyrie is still in the marvlel line-up,but she could hold her own aginst thor and the hulk. More inportantly , who would draw the story.
sounds good but if i recall correctly the valkyre can only fight MALE opponents,unless thats been retconned:ninja:
cgcorben
11-16-2007, 04:24 AM
Thank you for the reply 3dman27. I have returned with a coment and a plea for help.. In the reply to my suggestion of a sue versus valkyrie story, it was pointed out that the valkyrie only battles male heroes. I don't believe thes would seriously hinder the story because any good writer could exploit magic spells,mistaken identity, amnesia,or time tavel to get around the plot device.Moreover, how long has this character had amales only policy. a fellow member of my graphic novel club swears the valkyrie opened a can of whoop-ass on female protagonist named in the defenders. I wonder how marvel can hope to provide good stories by reducing story options.
Also, how about sue versus the black cat? It probably wouldn't work as a slugfest,but if handled properly what it llacks in punches it could make up in action and suspense. The Cat would have to avoid sue's force buble and get away. While the sue has the challenge of finding the cat.
HELP! I distinctly remember reading ghe first half of a non fantastic four comic that featured a guest appearance by susan storm/ricards. The story ended with susan bound and helpless as a poweful bomb ticks away its last few seconds and the books title character unable to intervene. Unfortunately, I cannot
recall the books title or the villian thats featured. Moreover,several years ago I lost a number of books and it must have been among the casualties. I need the title and villian for a project i am working on. My graphic novel book club is posting a web page, and I am contributing a trivia game. If anyone can supply me with either or both names please reply. I'll put up a link as soon as I can.figure out this system:cwink:
3dman27
11-16-2007, 05:16 AM
Thank you for the reply 3dman27. I have returned with a coment and a plea for help.. In the reply to my suggestion of a sue versus valkyrie story, it was pointed out that the valkyrie only battles male heroes. I don't believe thes would seriously hinder the story because any good writer could exploit magic spells,mistaken identity, amnesia,or time tavel to get around the plot device.Moreover, how long has this character had amales only policy. a fellow member of my graphic novel club swears the valkyrie opened a can of whoop-ass on female protagonist named in the defenders. I wonder how marvel can hope to provide good stories by reducing story options.
Also, how about sue versus the black cat? It probably wouldn't work as a slugfest,but if handled properly what it llacks in punches it could make up in action and suspense. The Cat would have to avoid sue's force buble and get away. While the sue has the challenge of finding the cat.
HELP! I distinctly remember reading ghe first half of a non fantastic four comic that featured a guest appearance by susan storm/ricards. The story ended with susan bound and helpless as a poweful bomb ticks away its last few seconds and the books title character unable to intervene. Unfortunately, I cannot
recall the books title or the villian thats featured. Moreover,several years ago I lost a number of books and it must have been among the casualties. I need the title and villian for a project i am working on. My graphic novel book club is posting a web page, and I am contributing a trivia game. If anyone can supply me with either or both names please reply. I'll put up a link as soon as I can.figure out this system:cwink:
sue vs felicia works for me i can' recall the sue/bomb hostage story you mentionrd
3dman27
12-17-2007, 06:09 AM
the princess ariel from thundarr the barbarian her sorcery could match sues forcefields:ninja:
VICTORVONDOOMX
12-18-2007, 09:01 PM
Thundarr? THUNDARR?!?
I love 3D man...
3dman27
12-19-2007, 05:36 AM
er..thanks
VICTORVONDOOMX
12-19-2007, 12:09 PM
Just a lotta good memories there with the broken moon on Saturday mornings. :)
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