Opinions on the Symbiote Suit (Post here ONLY)

[benplace]

I added some background color to the image, what does everyone think?
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6507/spidey3teasercopy9bs.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidey3teasercopy9bs.jpg)

[Arcturus]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/mistermalice/spidermaniswearingblacksuit.jpg

[The_Dark_Knight]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/mistermalice/spidermaniswearingblacksuit.jpg




NO WAY!!!! NO HES NOT!!! CANT BE!!! j/k right you are.:up:

[Sean Adisano]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/mistermalice/spidermaniswearingblacksuit.jpg

i would say a grayish blue ;)

[GothicPowerMix1]

I added some background color to the image, what does everyone think?
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6507/spidey3teasercopy9bs.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidey3teasercopy9bs.jpg)

Looks like Sin City style

[Sean Adisano]

My friend and I are of the opinion that this may not be in the movie at all, but more like a suggestion or teaser if you will, of things to come. A metaphor of dark times ahead.

nah, i'm pretty sure this is the suite he will be wearing. raimi has tried to take these movies down a realism road (yea i know its a comic movie) but he's trying to make it believable. and i see why this whould be the suite, and no others...

[dabadguy5937]

I added some background color to the image, what does everyone think?
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6507/spidey3teasercopy9bs.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidey3teasercopy9bs.jpg)

i like that it def look ill

[HerosOnFilm]

http://abyss.hubbe.net/gfx/covers/cms/lg/asm43-lg.jpg
http://www.superherohype.com/images/spidey3small.jpg

I love the shot in the rain..what a powerful pic

[The_Dark_Knight]

This was the cover it reminded me of. Web Of Spider-man #1

http://www.samruby.com/WebA/Large/Web001.JPG

[GoldGoblin]

So when Dunst says Venom is a villain in S-M3,Venom fans says it has to be true,but when Sony shows a picture of spidey in a black spidey suit saying that this is the black suit,Venom fans says no it's not.

Venom fans,look at the poll,people love the suit.That is the black spider-man,deal with it.

[user123456789]

i wonder how they'll handle the visuals in this movie with these black suits and all.

[GoldGoblin]

i wonder how they'll handle the visuals in this movie with these black suits and all.

^In the day time settings,and even fighting Sandman,the black spider-man suit will stand out pretty good,and this black spider-man suit can even be seen pretty good at night even,because of the webbing.

[That 70's Venom]

http://abyss.hubbe.net/gfx/covers/cms/lg/asm43-lg.jpg
http://www.superherohype.com/images/spidey3small.jpg

I love the shot in the rain..what a powerful pic

wow, those 2 pics are so amazing :up:

[Spawn187]

http://abyss.hubbe.net/gfx/covers/cms/lg/asm43-lg.jpg
http://www.superherohype.com/images/spidey3small.jpg

I love the shot in the rain..what a powerful pic

Yeah its so powerful that i used the pic instead of a truck to haul all the Bull *&^* everyone's been saying.

[CouchQuarterbck]

I'm think the suit's awesome....anyone figure out what's in his eye? With all the villains theres supposed to be, how long is this movie gonna be? You know Raimi will spend as much time explaining everything as possible...

[Unleashed]

There's nothing in his eye

[ZER0C00L]

What happened to making a black suit like it is in the comic?
The symbiote design w/ the white eyes/big white spider...that is one of the coolest designs ever.

All this one looks like is poor old Red and Blue Spidey has fallen into a vat of tar.

It makes me laugh tho the poll results, they could dress him in a teddy bear suit and all the 'fans' on here would still be like-

'OMG its AmaZing!!!!!!'

I just don't know why people are buying into it either. there not even focusing on the actual picture there more interested in something thats not there. cause this suit is boring.

what a waste. i dont understand why either. its just going to look bad on screen. all black. are his eyes even white?

[Spider-Bite]

I think he means 'lazy' in regards to designing a spider symbiote costume rahter than lazy in regards to actually MAKING a spider symbiote costume.

the symbiote costume is the same as the red and blues, just black that must have taken the designer like, 5 SECONDS to come up with.

I'm sure they would have had to experiment with the texture for months to get it to look like that.

But honestly. Does anybody have any doubt that this was carefully chosen out of dozens of experimental black costumes?

[CouchQuarterbck]

I'm sure they had a ton of choices...and this makes it look like it became a part of his costume, and not change the entire thing...so I like it more.

[The Impaler]

Has anyone else noticed that he doesnt have the white patches on his hands?

[Spider-Bite]

I have gradually moved from geeked out over the pic, to semi wishing it was more like the comic book, to totally feeling pissed off about it!

Not only that but it totally makes me afraid for Venom's sake. I got this gut feeling he's going to be screwed up royally! I think there are going to go with the love triangle thing, and Venom isn't going to going to have the long teeth, and tongue. I have this feeling he wont be huge and massive.

Anything that doesn't look like Ultimate Venom, and I'd rather he not even be in a movie. These movies should be reserved for those that will give us great visuals. Any Venom that isn't Ultimate Venom is going to look stupid as hell on the big screen, and original Venom is like no new special effect at all. It basically would be Spider-Man in a black suit.

[Spawn187]

I bet when sm3 comes out on dvd they will show like 5 suits and explain that some didnt reflect light like others and some had no pockets for spideys flintstones vitamines.

[CouchQuarterbck]

I really hope they go with the Ultimate Venom as well, but my only concern is this; too much CGI could ruin it and make him feel fake...kinda like they did to the Hulk...

[stillanerd]

I'm sure they would have had to experiment with the texture for months to get it to look like that.

But honestly. Does anybody have any doubt that this was carefully chosen out of dozens of experimental black costumes?

Like I said before, the filmmakers probably believed that the audience was too stupid to recognize if he had worn the black costume from the comics, then went the "cost-effective" route by taking one of Spidey's old costumes and spray-painted it black so that it the audience would recognize the classic duds but have in a different color scheme.

Also, it's been alleged that THIS is the look Spidey will have for most of the film until he forces the symbiote to leave, and that Venom will look like his comic book counterpart, only without any white spider emblem (it will just be black.)

[Spider-Bite]

Like I said before, the filmmakers probably believed that the audience was too stupid to recognize if he had worn the black costume from the comics, then went the "cost-effective" route by taking one of Spidey's old costumes and spray-painted it black so that it the audience would recognize the classic duds but have in a different color scheme.

Also, it's been alleged that THIS is the look Spidey will have for most of the film until he forces the symbiote to leave, and that Venom will look like his comic book counterpart, only without any white spider emblem (it will just be black.)

I highly doubt they were worried about the audience not knowing it's Spider-Man. On ever poster it would sort of say Spider-Man, not to mention in the previews they would know it's Spider-Man.

I think they just wanted to save money.

[ragdus]

by that logic they wouldnt make the classic spidey suit since nonfans would not now how it looks like.

You mean by like making the webbing silver instead of black?

[comic_geek21]

After hearing all the ****ing and complaining on this board, I'm gonna tell you my thoughts on the whole thing.

I'm gonna wait for a trailer, or the actual movie. And THEN, after I've seen the suit in action, and after I know with 100% certainty what Venom looks like, THEN I'll post my opinion on the whole thing.

That way, I don't sound stupid basing my whole opinion on one picture.

[Cmill216]

Yes, HerosOnFilm, good observation. There have been several images like the "poster" in the Spidey comics. For example:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1153/spideyrain30dj.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1623/42043vw.gif

[iminsane31]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Spider-Man316.jpg

This is the only venom that could work on screen.

I am sorry but Ultimate Venom is too big, too monstrous to work on screen.

I am a big venom fan but I think it is too early for venom.

I would rather they introduce Brock in this movie and then have venom in the next one with the lizard.

[Arcturus]

So when Dunst says Venom is a villain in S-M3,Venom fans says it has to be true,but when Sony shows a picture of spidey in a black spidey suit saying that this is the black suit,Venom fans says no it's not.

Venom fans,look at the poll,people love the suit.That is the black spider-man,deal with it.

Agreed, i'm a venom fan and I love the suit. I have no problems whatsoever, I havent denied anything. I dunno whats wrong with these people, maybe they're on drugs, or they had a stroke or something.

[Arcturus]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Spider-Man316.jpg

This is the only venom that could work on screen.

I am sorry but Ultimate Venom is too big, too monstrous to work on screen.

I am a big venom fan but I think it is too early for venom.

I would rather they introduce Brock in this movie and then have venom in the next one with the lizard.


Uhmmm, any incarnation of Venom can work on screen, whether he be big and beefcake or slightly smaller. It depends on the visual people to make it work.

[That 70's Venom]

ATTENTION ALL SHH HYPERS!!!

VENOM REVEALED!!!

http://www.minimatescentral.com/Venom2.jpg

[Arcturus]

^^^

lol, much agreement.

[Spawn187]

Here's another pic of spidey. Love that pic
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[iminsane31]

Uhmmm, any incarnation of Venom can work on screen, whether he be big and beefcake or slightly smaller. It depends on the visual people to make it work.

Venom is supposed to bigger than Spider-Man but not as big as the Hulk.

[Spider-Bite]

I really hope they go with the Ultimate Venom as well, but my only concern is this; too much CGI could ruin it and make him feel fake...kinda like they did to the Hulk...

Hulk was filmed years ago with a smaller budget, and there has been signifigant improvenments with CGI technology. Plus you learn from the mistakes of others. It could be done and done extremely well. It all comes down to dollars.

[CouchQuarterbck]

Venom is supposed to bigger than Spider-Man but not as big as the Hulk.

Topher Grace isn't exactly a stackhouse, himself...makes you wonder why he would play Brock....

[iminsane31]

Topher Grace isn't exactly a stackhouse, himself...makes you wonder why he would play Brock....

Last time I checked we dont know who he is playing.

But if indeed he is Venom. I think I could overlook his size if he has a great performance as venom.

I rather have an actor play venom them some guy on steroids.

[HerosOnFilm]

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f247/ultraww/spideyven.jpg

Okay, forget about the reflection in the eyes...you can see Venom in the clouds :eek:

[CouchQuarterbck]

Last time I checked we dont know who he is playing.

But if indeed he is Venom. I think I could overlook his size if he has a great performance as venom.

I rather have an actor play venom them some guy on steroids.

I prefer great acting, too. I just think someone a little bulkier, a little meaner, and little more intimidating would better suit the personality of the Eddie Brock/Venom we know from the comics...But I could be completely wrong...

[Cmill216]

Watch Crash and you'll see that Matt Dillon would have made a perfect Eddie Brock.

[HerosOnFilm]

Yes, HerosOnFilm, good observation. There have been several images like the "poster" in the Spidey comics. For example:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1153/spideyrain30dj.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1623/42043vw.gif

These are great pics also! I love the Romita pic (that I posted) and the Buscema pic too.

[Arcturus]

Uhmmm last time I checked, Eddie Brock in the comics was always OFFICIALLY beefcake, not some pathetic stringbean. So Grace had better work out and be a little more bigger then a ****ing broomstick.

[CouchQuarterbck]

Watch Crash and you'll see that Matt Dillon would have made a perfect Eddie Brock.

Yes!

[Kittie Rose]

I'll be really sad if Sandman gets too much focus on him. I hope he's just a side villian, put there to test his abilities with the suit.

Whatever the "old skool" fans think, Venom is many times more popular than Sandman, and if Venom is 2-Dimensional, then Sandman most certainly is too. Everyone was expecting Venom for the third movie, after we hear about John Jameson's space mission, and after we got the two other big villians out of the way. Sandman isn't a well known enough villian(wasn't in the 90s cartoon too, remember) to carry the movie, and GG2 is just a rehash. Maybe if it was a *proper* Hobgoblin, it might work, since people like me grew up with Hobby in the 90s cartoon.

Like it or not, without Venom, the typical movie goers would be confused and feel cheated that "fan favourite" ideas were put there instead of the ones they really wanted to see.

[Kittie Rose]

Uhmmm last time I checked, Eddie Brock in the comics was always OFFICIALLY beefcake, not some pathetic stringbean. So Grace had better work out and be a little more bigger then a ****ing broomstick.

SM2 Doc Ock was based off Ultimate Doc Ock(apart from the origin which is an original story), so I'm guessing SM3 Venom will be based of Ultimate Venom(with an original origin, or the cartoon one).

Ultimate Eddie is tall and lanky, and to be honest, I like him better than 616 Eddie. I like 616 Venom better because of the way in which he could torture Spidey, but if you've ever played Ultimate Spider-man, every so often you see Eddie wanderring around in a big coat, looking depressed and startled, and then he turns into Venom and eats people.

Topher Grace is a great choice. Why? Because we're all used to Topher as a dweeb. Raimi is a horror director and knows how these things work. A big strong guy turning into a monster isn't that intimidating. Think of the Hulk. The idea of a little scrawny guy turning into a big ugly monster has much scarier implications, and suggests something even more extra-terrestial or paranormal.

Seriously though, imagine Topher just turning up everywhere Tobey goes, with a creepy grin... and then at the end he turns into Venom. It would be a great angle. They could do the "torture" thing but with just Topher as Topher, being really creepy. Big buff dumbasses like Brock aren't creepy. Skinny weedy guys like Topher can be.

[Arcturus]

"SM2 Doc Ock was based off Ultimate Doc Ock"

BIGGEST CROCK OF **** I'VE EVER HEARD, ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN HAS NO BASIS IN THE FILMS.

Now to quote a good Doc Ock; the biggest Doc Ock fan out there;

"No he wasn't.

Bendis said he based Doc Ock off SM-2 for the Hollywood arc.You know the one with Sam Raimi,Avi Arad,Tobey Maguire and Otto's ex wife Roselita

Also Ultimate Ock is not controlled by his tentacles,and wears his tentacles in the front,not the back.

Movie Ock was entirely Raimi's creation".

Oh and skinny little freaks like Topher arent creepy, i'd be more scared of a buff sociopath like brock then a little mosquito reject like Gopher Grace to being Venom. Now don't get me wrong, I agree Venom should never be the size of the Hulk, but he shouldnt be a broom stick handle either.

[spf08]

Spiderman wore a black suit in my dreams last night. But then I realized it was just a blue filter and beat the crap out of him for trying to trick me.

[iminsane31]

I think people are forgeting that Raimi said that he is basing the movies less off the comic books and more on the movies them selves.

So I think alot of the speculation from comic book stories is misleading since its more of an orginal arc or storyline.

I think people need to start realizing that or they will be dissapointed or confused.

I am a comic book fan and I have favorite things about it, but I do like that the movies are creating their own storyline and trying to be a litte different from the comics.

[Arcturus]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/mistermalice/03.jpg


GROWL! LOOK AT ME, I WILL DESTROY YOU SPIDER-WIMP!

[Cmill216]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/mistermalice/03.jpg


GROWL! LOOK AT ME, I WILL DESTROY YOU SPIDER-WIMP!

Wow. (Stands up and applauds). What's that from seven, eight years ago? :rolleyes:

If Topher is Brock, he's going to be the opposite parallel to Tobey, and less like the Brock we are mostly familiar with. I'm not too happy about that, but I'm intrigued to see it.

[Arcturus]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/mistermalice/Venom_EddieBrockReporter.jpg


Eddie Brock was and always has been an intimidating force with or without the symbiote in the 616 (The one and only, despite it's quality nowadays). Whatever Rami has planned, he'd better serve us something good.

[Arcturus]

Wow. (Stands up and applauds). What's that from seven, eight years ago? :rolleyes:

If Topher is Brock, he's going to be the opposite parallel to Tobey, and less like the Brock we are mostly familiar with. I'm not too happy about that, but I'm intrigued to see it.

It doesn't matter, it could be from twelve years ago, alot of recent pics of topher still show he's skinny and thats not the eddie brock alot of venom fans have grown up with. I too am interested to see how it plays out, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. But if it's good, then all the better.

:rolleyes:

[i-n-z-a-n-e]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/mistermalice/03.jpg


GROWL! LOOK AT ME, I WILL DESTROY YOU SPIDER-WIMP!

Wow he looks like frodo from lord of the rings

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://i1.tinypic.com/oi9c8z.jpg[/QUOTE]

[spideyboy_1111]

It doesn't matter, it could be from twelve years ago, alot of recent pics of topher still show he's skinny and thats not the eddie brock alot of venom fans have grown up with.

:rolleyes:
he still may be skinny but he doesnt look like hes 15... thats at least a big dif... i still will always think, perosnality and body type wise... he would have been a much better electro

[Arcturus]

he still may be skinny but he doesnt look like hes 15... thats at least a big dif... i still will always think, perosnality and body type wise... he would have been a much better electro

And I understand that, I truly do spideyboy_1111

And i've never said an eddie brock in a film has to be terminator style built, but something with a little more oomph then a whiper would be better.

[spideyboy_1111]

And I understand that, I truly do spideyboy_1111

And i've never said an eddie brock in a film has to be terminator style built, but something with a little more oomph then a whiper would be better.
i just have this horrifying feeling the suit will just make him maggically bigger.. like it did with the lil whimp who won the auction for the symbiote in MK spidey, before scorpion got it...

[Spider-Bite]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Spider-Man316.jpg

This is the only venom that could work on screen.

I am sorry but Ultimate Venom is too big, too monstrous to work on screen.

I am a big venom fan but I think it is too early for venom.

I would rather they introduce Brock in this movie and then have venom in the next one with the lizard.

The fact that he is large is irrelevant to the CGI capabilities. Jurassic Park was filmed a decaded and a half ago, and look how big those were.

Watch Lord of The Rings, all 3 of them, watch DOOM, Brothers Grimm, the League of Extraordinary GentleMen. Hell just look at all the fan art in the fan art thread. If you were to watch all of them you would realize Ultimate Venom would look the best on screen. It would require the most work, and the most money, but it would look the best.

[Arcturus]

i just have this horrifying feeling the suit will just make him maggically bigger.. like it did with the lil whimp who won the auction for the symbiote in MK spidey, before scorpion got it...

Thats one of my worries. Sigh.

:(

[CouchQuarterbck]

And I understand that, I truly do spideyboy_1111

And i've never said an eddie brock in a film has to be terminator style built, but something with a little more oomph then a whiper would be better.

What do you think of Church playing Venom as opposed to Sandman? Would that have been a better fit?

[spf08]

hm . . . terminator style? that's it! just computer generate topher's head on arnold's body, and voila! . . .

[spideyboy_1111]

What do you think of Church playing Venom as opposed to Sandman? Would that have been a better fit?
better, yes.. but still sucky.. too old..

[Spider-Bite]

Wow. (Stands up and applauds). What's that from seven, eight years ago? :rolleyes:

If Topher is Brock, he's going to be the opposite parallel to Tobey, and less like the Brock we are mostly familiar with. I'm not too happy about that, but I'm intrigued to see it.

That picture is a lot more than 7 or 8 years ago. Try like 15 years ago. He never ever looked that young on that 70's show, and he was already like 20 when he started doing that show, even though he was playing a teenager.

[spideyboy_1111]

That picture is a lot more than 7 or 8 years ago. Try like 15 years ago. He never ever looked that young on that 70's show, and he was already like 20 when he started doing that show, even though he was playing a teenager.
ummm thats def a pic from that 70's show... i think the first season

[Arcturus]

ummm thats def a pic from that 70's show... i think the first season

It's right from that 70's show.

[The Joker]

SM2 Doc Ock was based off Ultimate Doc Ock



I'm afraid not my dear.

I have asked Bendis about this before in his Q&A thread on his message board,not to mention he's said it in several interviews.I am assuming you're talking about the Hollywood arc where we saw this:

http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,ultimate_spiderman,055.jpg

This arc was released just prior to SM-2 being released,in which Bendis changed Ock's character slightly from his previous two arcs.Suddenly Ock was talking to his tentacles (which suddenly had red lights in the claws),and he was sporting a new look- a trenchcoat.We also saw his ex-wife who was named Roselita.

Bendis says he got this from the SM-2 script,it was to gear up the fans for Molina's version of Ock.The red lights in the tentacles,talking to the tentacles,showing the ex wife,wearing a trenchcoat.........it was all based off the movie.

Raimi and Co took nothing from Ultimate Spider-Man.Movie Ock was entirely Raimi's creation.And no doubt Topher Grace's Venom will be too.

[iminsane31]

The fact that he is large is irrelevant to the CGI capabilities. Jurassic Park was filmed a decaded and a half ago, and look how big those were.

Watch Lord of The Rings, all 3 of them, watch DOOM, Brothers Grimm, the League of Extraordinary GentleMen. Hell just look at all the fan art in the fan art thread. If you were to watch all of them you would realize Ultimate Venom would look the best on screen. It would require the most work, and the most money, but it would look the best.

I am an old school Venom, I dont think he should be that large and is a reason why I am not a fan of the Ultimate vemom look.

I dont care how great a giant Venom could look on screen because of the new CGI capabililites.

Because venom was never meant to be that big. At least to me.:o

[Arcturus]

I am an old school Venom, I dont think he should be that large and is a reason why I am not a fan of the Ultimate vemom look.

I dont care how great a giant Venom could look on screen because of the new CGI capabililites.

Because venom was never meant to be that big. At least to me.:o

Sad thing is, he's was always big right from the start.

http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/images/venom/amazing300a.jpg

[gdw]

I'm thinking that there are artists who made this poster laughing to themselves going "he he, we put random giberish in his eye hoping that people would look for a villan there like the other movies, he he, but there, ha ho, is no, HAHAHA, nothing there HA, not a damn thing, hehehehehe"

[Kittie Rose]

Ultimate Venom isn't really much bigger than 616 Venom.

[Advanced Dark]

A thought...

Guys this new pic doesn't reveal much...and maybe it shouldn't. You have to know that it IS the symbiote 100% for certain and that why there may not be the classic white spider figure on the front in this pic or the next...that doesn't mean we won't see the classic look in the film. Remember it's a living organism so clearly they'll be lots of CGI post production work on the suit to make it come alive. Just like Ghost Riders bike looks awesome in still shots but in post production they're making it a living thing. So they could add the right look to the suit in post production CGI F/X.

[Kittie Rose]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Spider-Man316.jpg

This is the only venom that could work on screen.

I am sorry but Ultimate Venom is too big, too monstrous to work on screen.

I am a big venom fan but I think it is too early for venom.

I would rather they introduce Brock in this movie and then have venom in the next one with the lizard.

What are you talking about? Have you watched a fantasy/sci-fi/horror movie made in the last 20 years? Wow. That would be the worst Venom to use. It might have been effective in the comic with the "He looks just like Spidey!" but the Spider-man movies are way over the top. I think something as monstrous as Ultimate Venom, but a little more intelligent looking.

[spideyboy_1111]

actually he is... look at the action figs ... look at the video games.... in size ratio of spidey

[Valorman]

http://www.angelfire.com/myband/skacorps/info/venom.html

interesting, aint it?

[CouchQuarterbck]

Grace would play a better Cletus Kasady...He's got the build for that one, and I think he's a good enough actor to pull it off...but I'm sure that won't happen.

[Advanced Dark]

^ I'd like Kevin Bacon as Cletus.

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9610/25/kevin.bacon.game/bacon.lrg.jpg

[iminsane31]

What are you talking about? Have you watched a fantasy/sci-fi/horror movie made in the last 20 years? Wow. That would be the worst Venom to use. It might have been effective in the comic with the "He looks just like Spidey!" but the Spider-man movies are way over the top. I think something as monstrous as Ultimate Venom, but a little more intelligent looking.

Acuatlly i watched one last week.

Why would the it be the worst Venom to use? Cause he is smaller?

Venom is supposed to look like Spider-Man because he is kind of created by him in a way, since the symboite left him and attached to Brock.

[Kittie Rose]

That Venom would look incredibly unimpressive on screen, that's why. You want over the top f/x in a big budget hollywood film, not something that they could have done on a student budget back in the 80s.

The other versions of Venom might not seem as creepy on paper, but imagine bringing them to life, moving, which would look creepier? Original Venom would just be a human in a funny costume. Post-Larsen Venom is a different story entirely. Much more alien.

How effective would Alien have been if it was just a guy in spandex with a funny helmet?

[Arcturus]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/mistermalice/Art10514.jpg

[Kittie Rose]

Venom shouldn't look too "real" anyway. With the Hulk he's basically an uber-buff, uber-tall green guy. Most of his features are derived from a human.

While Venom seems like a similiar story, his skin texture, the way he moves, and his face would be very much so inhuman. You wouldn't have the same problem with a "Mostrous" Venom as you would with Hulk. In fact, the more mostrous, the less you'd notice.

[DroolingforGwen]

This film has a budget of 250 million dollars... highest cost ever for any movie... if they did two films they'd all go broke... even if it is the Spiderman franchise....

[superkong 500]

Well the thing is that venom is supossed to look like spiderman only in his powers, but venom is really supposed to be as fast and agile as spiderman with webs and all that spiderman has but a bigger stronger version of him, that's the real challenge of venom as a villain, that he has spidey's same powers but is even stronger than him, so I think Raimi should go(even if he doesn't) with a mark bagley type venom, which is big but at the same time is ripped and looks very agile so he can move as fast as spidey does. he should be spidey's greatest adversary physically speaking.

[Kittie Rose]

250 million dollars isn't the highest budget ever. Titanic had a high budget, I believe.

I wonder what all the budget gets spent on, though? It's kind of intersting. I suppose a lot would be blowing stuff up. You can only spend so much on the actors, and special effects aren't some magic thing you buy in big trucks, they're most done on computer so it's just a case of a one time investment with a special effects studio, paying the artists for their time.

I'm not sure where that 250 million dollars goes to, to be honest. Though a lot is advertising. I guarantee that if they really wanted to, they could make a great SM flick on a 50 million dollar budget.

[Kittie Rose]

Well the thing is that venom is supossed to look like spiderman only in his powers, but venom is really supposed to be as fast and agile as spiderman with webs and all that spiderman has but a bigger stronger version of him, that's the real challenge of venom as a villain, that he has spidey's same powers but is even stronger than him, so I think Raimi should go(even if he doesn't) with a mark bagley type venom, which is big but at the same time is ripped and looks very agile so he can move as fast as spidey does. he should be spidey's greatest adversary physically speaking.

Bagely's Venom is my favourite. I just loved that picture of the ever-famous hand-shake after Venom kidnapped Peter's parents. His teeth were so creepy. Mark Bagely actually knew how to work Venom's mouth.

[CouchQuarterbck]

Venom shouldn't look too "real" anyway. With the Hulk he's basically an uber-buff, uber-tall green guy. Most of his features are derived from a human.

While Venom seems like a similiar story, his skin texture, the way he moves, and his face would be very much so inhuman. You wouldn't have the same problem with a "Mostrous" Venom as you would with Hulk. In fact, the more mostrous, the less you'd notice.

I disagree. The more you make Venom "Human" the easier it is to believe it's really Grace under there. You have to have that sense of believability for the people who aren't big fans of Spidey, and just go for the good movies. Otherwise, throwing some alien-type sci-fi storyline is going to confuse them, and take the story intro a totally different direction. So far, the movies have been successful because of an outstanding storyline, not because of the big-budget f/x....

[Spider-Bite]

This film has a budget of 250 million dollars... highest cost ever for any movie... if they did two films they'd all go broke... even if it is the Spiderman franchise....

they already made 6 times that much money off Box Office alone for the spider-man franchise. That is an unusually sound investment. You don't normally get such a large return so quickly when you invest your money.

[Weadazoid]

Sad thing is, he's was always big right from the start.

http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/images/venom/amazing300a.jpg





true But even Mcfarlanes Spiderman was big, at any rate compare toods Hulk to Todds Venom, Venom is much more on the level of a normal human being despite the muscles.


Todd gave muscles to everyone even skiny wimpy Bruce banner had some tone to him. I think Todd gave Spiderman some serious muscle. Brock was still hman, Venom was like a boyd builders version of Venom at first, but nothing like the Hulk Size

[Spider-Bite]

I disagree. The more you make Venom "Human" the easier it is to believe it's really Grace under there. You have to have that sense of believability for the people who aren't big fans of Spidey, and just go for the good movies. Otherwise, throwing some alien-type sci-fi storyline is going to confuse them, and take the story intro a totally different direction. So far, the movies have been successful because of an outstanding storyline, not because of the big-budget f/x....

Your wrong. Big budget special effects gets them the huge opening weekend, and the story gets the word of mouth advertising. without the effects therw ouldn't be enough people doing the word of mouth thing.

[Arcturus]

true But even Mcfarlanes Spiderman was big, at any rate compare toods Hulk to Todds Venom, Venom is much more on the level of a normal human being despite the muscles.


Todd gave muscles to everyone even skiny wimpy Bruce banner had some tone to him. I think Todd gave Spiderman some serious muscle. Brock was still hman, Venom was like a boyd builders version of Venom at first, but nothing like the Hulk Size

I know what you mean, but I was just pointing out that Venom's debut showed that he was bulky, and has always been portrayed like that (sometimes even larger) ever since, (Not counting the ultimate venom) in the 616 universe, which Rami has been a fan of the 616 universe as he claims.

[MutantCircus]

:( I'm majorly dissapointed.

Way to be creative Marvel. Throw the regular suit in a washing machine with some black Rit dye and viola! Symbiote suit.

[CouchQuarterbck]

How about the possibility of a completely different Venom? I mean, they gave GG a pretty good makeover and even made Doc Ock different from any other version of him. So why wouldn't we expect Raimi to do something entirely new for Venom?

[spideyboy_1111]

:( I'm majorly dissapointed.

Way to be creative Marvel. Throw the regular suit in a washing machine with some black Rit dye and viola! Symbiote suit.
hey now its not marvel.. its sony and raimi

[MutantCircus]

hey now its not marvel.. its sony and raimi
true.


but still... :down

[The Caped Knight]

OK all of you Spidey 3 haters Need to CHILL OUT, sony & Raimi know what their doing , Raimi made Spidey 2 better than the Spider-man : The Movie . I'm sure Spidey 3 is going to kick ass .

So until you see the damn movie, Quit your whining & Shut THE HELL UP .

[Visionary]

hey now its not marvel.. its sony and raimi
Nope, still MARVEL. They have say so over everything in the script and the costumes.

[ZeroCorpse]

Venom has ALWAYS looked like a cheesy, muscular male version of Spider-Woman II. It's HER COSTUME, with a big dude in it. I've always, ALWAYS hated Venom. He's a shallow, pointless, creation; The quintessential "evil twin" character, and a waste of pages.

The 90s absolutely sucked at Marvel. That whole "dark hero" trend was ridiculous, and killed the technological/scientific dynamic in Spider-Man.

This isn't Venom. He's not in the movie. The "black suit" they refer to is a tuxedo that Pete wears in the movie. The photo is not black & white, but that doesn't mean that the lighting isn't low enough to make Pete's regular costume look this way. It will be Sandman and Electro.

[Kittie Rose]

How about the possibility of a completely different Venom? I mean, they gave GG a pretty good makeover and even made Doc Ock different from any other version of him. So why wouldn't we expect Raimi to do something entirely new for Venom?

Because comic book Doc OCk and Green Goblin weren't things you could directly bring to the big screen. Venom is something out of a cheesy sci-fi horror movie as it is.

[The Joker]

OK all of you Spidey 3 haters Need to CHILL OUT

If they want to ***** about the new suit,then it's their god given right.They can express their opinions just as much as you can.

sony & Raimi know what their doing .I'm sure Spidey 3 is going to kick ass

Seen the script have you??

Didn't think so.

So you're just expressing your opinion,the same as the "SM-3 haters".

Quit your whining & Shut THE HELL UP .

You first troll :rolleyes:

[Visionary]

Electro...

I like Electro...

How so did you come up with Electro?

[Arcturus]

Electro...

I like Electro...

How so did you come up with Electro?

Because we need villains that rob banks and steal devices to take over factories for their own purpose, amazing!

Discuss.

[The Last Meatbag]

Venom has ALWAYS looked like a cheesy, muscular male version of Spider-Woman II. It's HER COSTUME, with a big dude in it. I've always, ALWAYS hated Venom. He's a shallow, pointless, creation; The quintessential "evil twin" character, and a waste of pages.

The 90s absolutely sucked at Marvel. That whole "dark hero" trend was ridiculous, and killed the technological/scientific dynamic in Spider-Man.

This isn't Venom. He's not in the movie. The "black suit" they refer to is a tuxedo that Pete wears in the movie. The photo is not black & white, but that doesn't mean that the lighting isn't low enough to make Pete's regular costume look this way. It will be Sandman and Electro.

why the hell would it refer to a tuxedo :confused:

[The_Dark_Knight]

Venom has ALWAYS looked like a cheesy, muscular male version of Spider-Woman II. It's HER COSTUME, with a big dude in it. I've always, ALWAYS hated Venom. He's a shallow, pointless, creation; The quintessential "evil twin" character, and a waste of pages.



Your about to be eaten alive....:venom:

[Arcturus]

Oh and while we're at it, we should also have the vulture fly in and steal some prunes, because we all know that old men in green tights is just pure awsome. And Green Goblin 2 better have the purple thong and green tights on, as well with the elf shoes. Can't wait.

[CouchQuarterbck]

Because comic book Doc OCk and Green Goblin weren't things you could directly bring to the big screen. Venom is something out of a cheesy sci-fi horror movie as it is.

How is a mad scientist with giant tentacles not something you can bring to the big screen? And, although the original goblin might not have worked, the Ultimate version of him is just as much sci-fi and cheesy as Venom is. I see your point Kittie Rose, but all I'm saying is, I wouldn't be surprised if Raimi hit us with something we haven't even come close to thinking of yet...

[Arcturus]

why the hell would it refer to a tuxedo :confused:

I have no idea, maybe he is wearing a tuxedo and the storm is somehow making the tuxedo look like a black suit. Incredible!

[The Punisher]

I don't think so lol.

[ZeroCorpse]

Re: Tuxedo.

Read the front page of the movie web page. They don't say "black costume" but "Spider-Man wears a black suit in Spider-Man 3."

Maybe not a tuxedo, but a BLACK SUIT. SUIT. Not costume. Aunt May or Gwen Stacy die in this, and he wears a BLACK SUIT to the funeral. Or a tuxedo--- He gets married.

Nowhere on that page does it say that it's a picture of a black costume. It simply plays with words and says "Spider-Man wears a black SUIT in Spider-Man 3."

Also--- It says "You may think you're looking at a black & white photo." But it never says you AREN'T. It just says "you may think."

Maybe--- Just MAYBE--- Spider-Man does wear a black costume. Not a symbiote, but BLACK because he's IN MOURNING.

There will be no Venom. It will be Electro.

How do I guess this?

Topher Grace- His build is similar to Electro.

Electro is a natural enemy to Sandman (his powers cause Sandman to fuse into glass).

Raimi is a fan of the old-school rogues gallery.

It. Will. Be. Electro.

[The Last Meatbag]

Suit also refers to costume....

[GoldGoblin]

Suit also refers to costume....

^Only people with a brain would get that.:)

[Arcturus]

And let's not forget how dark lighting will make a red and blue suit become black. Despite the fact that sony the website has indeed stated that we are looking at the black suit, which it may in fact be a tuxedo, or a the black suit black cat put together after peter got rid of the suit, although black cat has never been introduced in the movies yet. I am fascinated.

[Kittie Rose]

I know it's "their opinion" and all that but I'm really sick of Venom haters.

We've heard your arguments. We know where you're coming from. We know you probably didn't like the 90s either. Now can you please stop bothering the people who disagree with you?

[Kittie Rose]

Re: Tuxedo.

Read the front page of the movie web page. They don't say "black costume" but "Spider-Man wears a black suit in Spider-Man 3."

Maybe not a tuxedo, but a BLACK SUIT. SUIT. Not costume. Aunt May or Gwen Stacy die in this, and he wears a BLACK SUIT to the funeral. Or a tuxedo--- He gets married.

Nowhere on that page does it say that it's a picture of a black costume. It simply plays with words and says "Spider-Man wears a black SUIT in Spider-Man 3."

Also--- It says "You may think you're looking at a black & white photo." But it never says you AREN'T. It just says "you may think."

Maybe--- Just MAYBE--- Spider-Man does wear a black costume. Not a symbiote, but BLACK because he's IN MOURNING.

There will be no Venom. It will be Electro.

How do I guess this?

Topher Grace- His build is similar to Electro.

Electro is a natural enemy to Sandman (his powers cause Sandman to fuse into glass).

Raimi is a fan of the old-school rogues gallery.

It. Will. Be. Electro.

Okay, if people jumped on me for finding something which really does look like a Goblin Mask, they sure as hell better jump on this guy.

[Cmill216]

This is fun.

"Suit VS. Costume"

"What's in the eye?"

"Venom sucks! Go Electro!"

It never ends. It never ends.

[ZeroCorpse]

I'm telling you, they're messing with you.

Someone close to him dies in this, and he wears a black suit because of it.

Costume or suit. Doesn't matter. That's the only reason for the black.

And NO. "Costume" and "suit" are not synonyms. A suit can be a costume, but a costume can not be a "suit." There's a reason they chose the word "suit" and not "costume" when they easily could have said "costume."

But it takes a brain to catch subtext... I can't be surprised most of you don't get it.

[I'm Venom]

http://www.alaph.com/spiderman/pictures/suits/armor.jpg
http://www.superherohype.com/images/spidey3small.jpg

Some people have been saying the black suit is stealth armor that Spider-Man uses against Sandman.

[Arcturus]

Yes, although Spider-Man has been mourning since uncle ben died and his life has turned upside down, suddenly he need's to change his suit to black. Although Dunst stated that one of the villains will be Venom, and the topher is going to be him (maybe not in sm-3, but at the end), and the fact that sony has announced that the suit is a black suit.

Must be the biggest coincidence ever.

[The_Dark_Knight]

Maybe--- Just MAYBE--- Spider-Man does wear a black costume. Not a symbiote, but BLACK because he's IN MOURNING.



That would be gay! "AWW boo hoo, MJ died so now I'm gona go emo!! WAAA" yeah right. and I'm pretty sure its a black costume... Why the hell else would they say that? I mean damn, I know Sony and Rami arnt the brightest star in the galexy, but there not stupid. You need to put down the crack pipe.

[ZeroCorpse]

And hey--- Last I checked this is a Spider-Man 3 thread, and NOT a "Venom Fanclub" thread, so my opinion on the Terminator T-1000 in Spider-Woman's costume is just as valid as yours.

[Cmill216]

Some people have been saying the black suit is stealth armor that Spider-Man uses against Sandman.

So Sandman is not gonna see him cause he's in a black costume?

:D Nice.

[Kittie Rose]

Well, without the letters E, M and O, you can't spell Spoder-Man.

[GoldGoblin]

That white Venom spider emblem,if you call it a spider would be as cheesy on screen as the Green Goblin wearing purple curved booties.Were not going to have a Venom the size of the Hulk.

If you took the webbing pattern from this image and made it look like veins,that is pretty much the Venom we will see in the movie world.

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/16091609jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjo0puopi_copy.jpg

[Kittie Rose]

And hey--- Last I checked this is a Spider-Man 3 thread, and NOT a "Venom Fanclub" thread, so my opinion on the Terminator T-1000 in Spider-Woman's costume is just as valid as yours.

You being an ass about it, however, is not.

[Arcturus]

And hey--- Last I checked this is a Spider-Man 3 thread, and NOT a "Venom Fanclub" thread, so my opinion on the Terminator T-1000 in Spider-Woman's costume is just as valid as yours.

Nobody is flaming you, and if they're then so be it. Don't take it to heart, if you hate a character, no biggie. Not everyone likes a ceartin character and you have every right to state your opinion, but so do we, live with it.

[Cmill216]

You being an ass about it, however, is not.

Watch the language, Kittie cat. The mods are listening....

:ghost:

[Arcturus]

You being an ass about it, however, is not.

That's wasn't called for.

[Kittie Rose]

That white Venom spider emblem,if you call it a spider would be as cheesy on screen as the Green Goblin wearing purple curved booties.Were not going to have a Venom the size of the Hulk.

If you took the webbing pattern from this image and made it look like veins,that is pretty much the Venom we will see in the movie world.

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/16091609jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjo0puopi_copy.jpg

I actually kind of like the idea of Venom looking like that. The "possesed suit with a mouth" thing was kind of how they did it in the comics. They have to work hard to make it scary though, and make the face a lot more sinister than McFarlane's Venom.

[Kittie Rose]

Watch the language, Kittie cat. The mods are listening....

:ghost:

That's ridiculous. Ass isn't a filterred word, and he was getting pretty stupid/sarky/nasty.

[CouchQuarterbck]

That would be gay! "AWW boo hoo, MJ died so now I'm gona go emo!! WAAA" yeah right. and I'm pretty sure its a black costume... Why the hell else would they say that? I mean damn, I know Sony and Rami arnt the brightest star in the galexy, but there not stupid. You need to put down the crack pipe.

I love the intelligence involved in posts like this.

(ps...Spell check does wonders....)

[Cmill216]

That's ridiculous. Ass isn't a filterred word, and he was getting pretty ridiculous.

It's not a filtered word. But calling someone it isn't exactly acceptable.

[Arcturus]

That's ridiculous. Ass isn't a filterred word, and he was getting pretty ridiculous.

Agreed, but throwing more gasoline into the fire wont help.

[ZeroCorpse]

Thanks.

All I'm saying is that Raimi likes to play with your head. If they wanted to express that Spider-Man was wearing a black costume, they'd have said "costume" and not chosen the word "suit."

It's not a coincidence that they NEVER refer to it as a costume.

[Arcturus]

Thanks.

All I'm saying is that Raimi likes to play with your head. If they wanted to express that Spider-Man was wearing a black costume, they'd have said "costume" and not chosen the word "suit."

It's not a coincidence that they NEVER refer to it as a costume.

That's because it's not your average suit, but a symbiote lifeform from some world beyond ours.

;)

[The_Dark_Knight]

I love the intelligence involved in posts like this.

(ps...Spell check does wonders....)



Go find a better choice of words. Consider this a warning--Lightning Strikez!

[Kittie Rose]

It's not a filtered word. But calling someone it isn't exactly acceptable.

But there are many more effective ways to be disrespective to other people, or annoying, and I think it's blatant he was using one. One thing I despise about messageboards is how they never go for anything but the most obvious "Personal attacks", letting the real trolls off scott-free.

[spideyboy_1111]

That white Venom spider emblem,if you call it a spider would be as cheesy on screen as the Green Goblin wearing purple curved booties.Were not going to have a Venom the size of the Hulk.

If you took the webbing pattern from this image and made it look like veins,that is pretty much the Venom we will see in the movie world.

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/16091609jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjo0puopi_copy.jpg
great manip.. but F that.. if venom looks like that i will not see the movie... thats completely effortless and dissapointing.... WHY DO SOMETHING IF YOU CANT DO IT RIGHT?

[GoldGoblin]

Thanks.

All I'm saying is that Raimi likes to play with your head. If they wanted to express that Spider-Man was wearing a black costume, they'd have said "costume" and not chosen the word "suit."

It's not a coincidence that they NEVER refer to it as a costume.

^http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=suit

[C. Lee]

That's ridiculous. Ass isn't a filterred word, and he was getting pretty stupid/sarky/nasty.
Did you read the PM I sent you earlier about the use of foul language?

In case you didn't....I asked you to try and refrain from it....now I am telling you to stop it. There is no need to be rude.

[Arcturus]

But there are many more effective ways to be disrespective to other people, or annoying, and I think it's blatant he was using one. One thing I despise about messageboards is how they never go for anything but the most obvious "Personal attacks", letting the real trolls off scott-free.

Let's just say this this thread has gone way out the window, and any intelligent conversations will not occur in this thread, that much is fact.

[spideyboy_1111]

ok you should be banned for that

[CouchQuarterbck]

Go blow your boyfriend.

How is it that calling someone an ass is unacceptable, but this moron can fire away with lines like, "Go blow your boyfriend?"

Which is about as 8th grade a comment as you can get...

[C. Lee]

Go blow your boyfriend.
You are about to be put on probation ......these kind of comments are to stop.

[Arcturus]

ok you should be banned for that

Thats nothing to be banned about, maybe a warning, but not a banning. But who am I to say anything.

[Arcturus]

This thread should get back on topic;

Symbiote suit/Black Costume/Black Suit

Discuss.

[Kittie Rose]

Did you read the PM I sent you earlier about the use of foul language?

In case you didn't....I asked you to try and refrain from it....now I am telling you to stop it. There is no need to be rude.

Why does he got to be rude, and I don't? Just because I used a bad word? Sounds like lazy moderating to me, tbh...

[Kittie Rose]

This thread should get back on topic;

Symbiote suit/Black Costume/Black Suit

Discuss.

...

Well, without the letters E, M and O, you can't spell Spoder-man...

[The_Dark_Knight]

Ok then... Do you think it will feed on its host like the Ultimate version?

[Cmill216]

Why does he got to be rude, and I don't? Just because I used a bad word? Sounds like lazy moderating to me, tbh...

Calm down, Kittie cat. Calm down. It's all good in the hood.

.....But I wouldn't have used that last line. :(

[Cmill216]

Ok then... Do you think it will feed on its host like the Ultimate version?

Probably not.

[Arcturus]

...

Well, without the letters E, M and O, you can't spell Spoder-man...


Well without the letters G, S, T you can't spell get your **** together, and let it go already. You were pm'd earlier by a mod that stated it recently, just simmer down and let it go.

Back on topic.

[CouchQuarterbck]

Ok then... Do you think it will feed on its host like the Ultimate version?

I don't know...but I kinda like that idea...it makes it more unpredictable and interesting

[Cmill216]

Back on topic.

What's the topic again?

[not_a_victim]

High Res versions of the Spidey-coloured in pic:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/Wetflame/spidey5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/Wetflame/spidey4.jpg
I dont remember the original suits having that much texture under the webbing. Is that sumpin new, or did I just miss it this long?

[Arcturus]

What's the topic again?

To be honest, at this point I don't even know anymore. I think it was about a black suit of some kind, but it might be about french fries.

[Kittie Rose]

Excuse me?

I suggest you take a hint and walk away before you find yourself in deeper trouble here.

If that's your only defense then I'm probably right. I shouldn't have to face a ban or even another warning just for questioning or pointing out inconsistencies in the moderation.

And that's not a "wise word", considering how many bullies I've heard use those same words in my lifetime...

[Cmill216]

If that's your only defense then I'm probably right. I shouldn't have to face a ban or even another warning just for questioning or pointing out inconsistencies in the moderation.

In the words of Tobey from SM1:

"Oh boy."

[Cmill216]

To be honest, at this point I don't even know anymore. I think it was about a black suit of some kind, but it might be about french fries.

I think it was about black french fries. Are they burnt or are they just colored that way?

[Kittie Rose]

In the words of Tobey from SM1:

"Oh, boy."

So I take it that it's accepted behaviour to accept everything a mod does without question around here? Maybe this place isn't so good then...

[Arcturus]

If that's your only defense then I'm probably right. I shouldn't have to face a ban or even another warning just for questioning or pointing out inconsistencies in the moderation.

And that's not a "wise word", considering how many bullies I've heard use those same words in my lifetime...

I admit, i've had my shares of warnings, and i've been put on probation once, but I don't dwell on it. Just let it go, put it behind you. Go out for a walk, take a breath, smoke a cigar and watch comedy central.

[Lazlo Panaflex]

Just look how many pages this thread has, get a life people it's just costume.

[Cmill216]

Just look how many pages this thread has, get a life people it's just costume.

Hi, there. New to the nerdom? :)

[Arcturus]

I think it was about black french fries. Are they burnt or are they just colored that way?

I think they might be wearing tuxedos, and the hypno hustler is directing the film.

[Kittie Rose]

I admit, i've had my shares of warnings, and i've been put on probation once, but I don't dwell on it. Just let it go, put it behind you. Go out for a walk, take a breath, smoke a cigar and watch comedy central.

I just don't like lazy mods, and I really don't like mods who try to bully me into submission. I've no problems respecting a staff as long as they show some level of respect and fairness back.

[not_a_victim]

If that's your only defense then I'm probably right. I shouldn't have to face a ban or even another warning just for questioning or pointing out inconsistencies in the moderation.

And that's not a "wise word", considering how many bullies I've heard use those same words in my lifetime...
Wow, even in MY line of work, I rarely run into people THIS determined to get into trouble. Dude, just let it go.

[Cmill216]

I think they might be wearing tuxedos, and the hypno hustler is directing the film.

Or maybe cause they don't have any ketchup on them, they are a sign of mourning. And what about the little spot on them? I think it's the Virgin Mary.

[Kittie Rose]

I admit, i've had my shares of warnings, and i've been put on probation once, but I don't dwell on it. Just let it go, put it behind you. Go out for a walk, take a breath, smoke a cigar and watch comedy central.

I just don't like lazy mods, and I really don't like mods who try to bully me into submission. I've no problems respecting a staff as long as they show some level of respect and fairness back. Threatening someone just for pointing out something unfair isn't any way to earn someone's respect. It's doing it just because they can, because they're mods and can ban you. That doesn't sit right with me at all, even if it is only a forum...

Of course, if said mod(s) were to apologise or at least acknowledge this, I wouldn't have any problem with shutting up and nobody would get in any more trouble or messiness.

[RDog]

To those that see an 'R' in the costume's eye... I think we all know this means the letter 'R' will be the villain in SM3. 'R' will beat Spidey at every turn, because after all, how the heck do you stop the letter 'R'? No one knows, least of all, Spidey. The movie will culminate with Spidey getting the upper hand somehow, of course, which will set up an epic battle in SM4 between Spidey and the letters 'S' and 'T' with a cameo by 'U' which leads into SM5.

(sorry, just had to have some fun.)
:)

BTW, was the teaser pic released when it was for a specific reason? Can we predict when the next teaser pic will be released, if so?

Thanks.

[Arcturus]

I just don't like lazy mods, and I really don't like mods who try to bully me into submission. I've no problems respecting a staff as long as they show some level of respect and fairness back.

Understood.

But as of late, since the picture has surfaced, a ton of threads were posted by a swarm of people who registered right afterwards to discuss their opinions, in which by all means they have every right to do so. But I think with what the mods have to deal with, they're doing a good job about it.

[GoldGoblin]

Venom doesn't have to be the size of the Hulk to be Venom.The whole point of Venom is that he is a villain that has spidey's exact powers,has all of his memories/thoughts,and can't be detected by his spidey sense.

^That right there will make Venom awesome.And it's cool that Raimi is making Venom the same size as spidey physically.Because it should be Venom's abilities that should make him deadly,not his physical size.

[The_Dark_Knight]

I think that would be kinda kool. Like maybe at the end Peter could try to stop Brock and hes telling him that the suit will destroy him but he dont listen. well something along those lines...

[C. Lee]

Why does he got to be rude, and I don't? Just because I used a bad word? Sounds like lazy moderating to me, tbh...
He doesn't get to be rude.....and the thing is, he wasn't in the post that you quoted of his, but you were rude to him in return. Your opinion of my moderating ways are yours (and far be it from me to try and change someones preconcieved ideas)....so have a nice day....as long as you respect others opinions and don't post rudely again.

[Kittie Rose]

Understood.

But as of late, since the picture has surfaced, a ton of threads were posted by a swarm of people who registered right afterwards to discuss their opinions, in which by all means they have every right to do so. But I think with what the mods have to deal with, they're doing a good job about it.

I do realise that, but this topic has cooled down since. I was co-operative with the mods, but I've gotten a lot of warnings for a lot of silly things lately and I'm starting to loose patience with this place. I don't like when mods filter for things like swearing or angry retorts, without looking why that person was driven to doing that in the first place. This leads to trolls running free and people who are genuinely hurt or offended ending up being warned or even banned. Unfortunately, this is how most forums have worked for the last 3 or so years... ever remember when the internet didn't suck so bad? :/

[Arcturus]

Venom doesn't have to be the size of the Hulk to be Venom.The whole point of Venom is that he is a villain that has spidey's exact powers,has all of his memories/thoughts,and can't be detected by his spidey sense.

^That right there will make Venom awesome.And it's cool that Raimi is making Venom the same size as spidey physically.Because it should be Venom's abilities that should make him deadly,not his physical size.

I agree GG, but in my belief I still think Venom should be bigger then spidey, now I don't mean the size of the hulk, but we should be able to see a difference. But what can I say, it's still a long way to wait.

[Cmill216]

^That right there will make Venom awesome.And it's cool that Raimi is making Venom the same size as spidey physically.Because it should be Venom's abilities that should make him deadly,not his physical size.

And where'd you get that from? :confused:

[Kittie Rose]

Venom doesn't have to be the size of the Hulk to be Venom.The whole point of Venom is that he is a villain that has spidey's exact powers,has all of his memories/thoughts,and can't be detected by his spidey sense.

^That right there will make Venom awesome.And it's cool that Raimi is making Venom the same size as spidey physically.Because it should be Venom's abilities that should make him deadly,not his physical size.

Venom has never been Hulk-sized anyway, nothing near it. He's pretty much been around the same size that McFarlane drew him, except when artists take some serious liberties with his appearance.

[CouchQuarterbck]

Yep....Venom has always been one character that's stayed true to form....

[Kittie Rose]

Mostly only Venom's face has changed throughout the years. And that's kind of understandable. He didn't have a mouth with Spidey, then got one with Venom, and then got a toungue and weirder eyes and jaw the longer he spent with him.

[Arcturus]

It's usually just the artist who is drawing venom with their own "vision", thats why he always looks different (same in overall general) but there would always be different spins. Alot of artists do that.

[myfingershurt]

does anybody know if you can buy that poster already? i checked allposters.com and they didnt have it, anybody have any info?

[Cmill216]

does anybody know if you can buy that poster already? i checked allposters.com and they didnt have it, anybody have any info?

I plan on making a shirt out of it.

[GoldGoblin]

Venom has never been Hulk-sized anyway, nothing near it. He's pretty much been around the same size that McFarlane drew him, except when artists take some serious liberties with his appearance.

^Seems like everytime I see him,he keeps getting bigger and bigger.Before you know it,he's going to be the size of Godzilla.

It makes sense that the symbiote would give Brock all spidey's powers and memories/thoughts,but it doesn't and wouldn't make sense in the movie world that it would make him very very huge in physique as well.

[The_Dark_Knight]

I plan on making a shirt out of it.


That sounds cool as heck! How would you be doing it?

[CouchQuarterbck]

I've got a bad feeling that after the release of this pic, it'll be a while before we hear any new news...

[Cmill216]

That sounds cool as heck! How would you be doing it?

I know a store that does it for cheap. I'll just send them the image. I'll proably make it a black shirt and have the image cover a nice chunk of the front.

[Arcturus]

^Seems like everytime I see him,he keeps getting bigger and bigger.Before you know it,he's going to be the size of Godzilla.

It makes sense that the symbiote would give Brock all spidey's powers and memories/thoughts,but it doesn't and wouldn't make sense in the movie world that it would make him very very huge in physique as well.

Not necessarily, i'm sure the symbiote could change it's size somewhat. In alot of depictions when the symbiote is off it's host, there appears to be alot of "it". Prehaps it can make itself look bigger when the venom identity manifests, maybe it doesn't always have to reflect the size of the host. And maybe, just maybe thats the path they're following, if not, so be it. But it's just food for thought.

[Kittie Rose]

I kinda liked the Ultimate Spider-man Hulk-like take on him, scrawny guy who turns into big monster every so often. Though Bendis/Bagely have a habit of making far too many Spidey villians Hulk-like...

The main question would be; where does he get all the extra mass from? I suppose there's no reason for the "extra mass" to be as solid as bone and muscle though. It could be a kind of creepy crisscrotch pattern on the inside built up to make his frame look more intimidating.

[Sean Adisano]

I plan on making a shirt out of it.

and i'll model it :D

[Cmill216]

I kinda liked the Ultimate Spider-man Hulk-like take on him, scrawny guy who turns into big monster every so often. Though Bendis/Bagely have a habit of making far too many Spidey villians Hulk-like...



I'm still scratching my head as to what Ultimate Green Goblin was supposed to be.

[Lightning Strykez!]

I just don't like lazy mods, and I really don't like mods who try to bully me into submission. I've no problems respecting a staff as long as they show some level of respect and fairness back. Threatening someone just for pointing out something unfair isn't any way to earn someone's respect. It's doing it just because they can, because they're mods and can ban you. That doesn't sit right with me at all, even if it is only a forum...

Of course, if said mod(s) were to apologise or at least acknowledge this, I wouldn't have any problem with shutting up and nobody would get in any more trouble or messiness.

Okay, it's time for a reality check here:

First of all, warnings have been issued to everyone involved with that altercation. No one is "singling you out" but you. And if you take a moment and scroll back 2 pages you might just realize that.

Secondly, even if the other comments had never been addressed, it wouldn't negate the fact that C. Lee apparently already issued a warning to you regarding foul language prior to now. That is against the Hype's rules--and you know this. So despite this situation, you already have something to work on. And C. Lee reminded you of this.

I suggest you worry about yourself.


Lightning

[Arcturus]

Well when you look at a symbiote, there seems to be alot of mass on it's own without a host. If it attaches to a host, prehaps it gives the host's appearance a swelled muscular appearance, regardless of the host.

[CouchQuarterbck]

Not necessarily, i'm sure the symbiote could change it's size somewhat. In alot of depictions when the symbiote is off it's host, there appears to be alot of "it". Prehaps it can make itself look bigger when the venom identity manifests, maybe it doesn't always have to reflect the size of the host. And maybe, just maybe thats the path they're following, if not, so be it. But it's just food for thought.

Then again, that's assuming they're going to make the symbiote some sort of "thing." I wouldn't be surprised if they made it into a kind of chemical, or liquid style substance...just to mix up the story and save time explaining some alien thing....

[Sean Adisano]

I'm still scratching my head as to what Ultimate Green Goblin was supposed to be.

the ultimate green goblin was the stupidest thing i have ever seen. it was a monster, a big green monster. i was scared with the stupidity of the character.

[Arcturus]

Then again, that's assuming they're going to make the symbiote some sort of "thing." I wouldn't be surprised if they made it into a kind of chemical, or liquid style substance...just to mix up the story and save time explaining some alien thing....

Well that's a given.

Maybe it will never be explained, when we see eddie brock he is a regular dude, and when he morphs into venom he is a hulking nightmare. But we can't be sure until we see sm-3.

[Sean Adisano]

Well that's a given.

Maybe it will never be explained, when we see eddie brock he is a regular dude, and when he morphs into venom he is a hulking nightmare. But we can't be sure until we see sm-3.

i wouldn't mind the whole alien symbiote routine, but i think a sort of remake of the USM story of the symbiote is what raimi will do.

[CouchQuarterbck]

Well that's a given.

Maybe it will never be explained, when we see eddie brock he is a regular dude, and when he morphs into venom he is a hulking nightmare. But we can't be sure until we see sm-3.

I don't know...that seems like a bit too much to leave wide-open...especially if you don't know a lot about Venom outside the movie

[Sean Adisano]

I don't know...that seems like a bit too much to leave wide-open...especially if you don't know a lot about Venom outside the movie

they are going to explain it fully, but its not going to be a boring thing, its going to be a progressive explanation of the symbiote. just my opinion.

[Arcturus]

Well if it's a chemical of some kind, then a chemical reaction of some kind can take place when the chemical makes contact with the blood.

If it's a parasitic organism whether it be alien/genetic experiment gone horribly wrong then prehaps the creature has alot of mass on it's own, and when it attaches to a host, the host may look bigger then normal.

Or for all we know, it could be skin tight and take the shape of the host.

I don't know, i'm spitting out random ideas.

[CouchQuarterbck]

Well if it's a chemical of some kind, then a chemical reaction of some kind can take place when the chemical makes contact with the blood.

If it's a parasitic organism whether it be alien/genetic experiment gone horribly wrong then prehaps the creature has alot of mass on it's own, and when it attaches to a host, the host may look bigger then normal.

Or for all we know, it could be skin tight and take the shape of the host.

I don't know, i'm spitting out random ideas.

Random ideas or not...they're pretty good. I suppose some sort of parasitic organism would make said host bigger, but I would think they would make Spidey bigger, too...If it's a chemical, then it would react to everyone differently.

[MutantCircus]

It was about 3 pages ago when I last posted, so I won't quote any of the responses I got, but let me say this:

I'm not a whiner. I'm not a person who says "this movie is going to suck" just because I see one or two things I don't like. I was totally behing Spider-Man 2, expected a great movie, and wasn't let down. The problem with SM3 is that unlike SM1 and 2, I don't like the chosen villains, I don't like one of the chosen actors... at all (Topher Grace would fit better in Brokeback Mountain 2 than in Spider-Man 3), and I am totally opposed to bringing in Gwen Stacey at this point. Not to mention how upset I am at the loss of Elfman, and that I think that multiple villains are what's going to turn the Spider-Man series into the Batman series.

I feel that Raimi knew what he was doing for the first two films, but I also feel he has painted himself into a corner by trying to limit himself to three films. He's already got a whole film's worth of open plotlines to close, and he's adding many, many more on top of that. It's just too much. Unless we end up with some assache three and a half hour film, this film is going to feel rushed.

So until I actually see the film, I've got very low expectations for this film.

Please, Sam Raimi, I beg you to prove me wrong.

[Arcturus]

Random ideas or not...they're pretty good. I suppose some sort of parasitic organism would make said host bigger, but I would think they would make Spidey bigger, too...If it's a chemical, then it would react to everyone differently.

Agreed. Another idea is...if it's an intelligent alien lifeform, maybe it can respond to the hosts mind and follow whatever command the host issues "I wanna look big and mean, give me muscles and sharp teeth" or "I need a t-shrit, jeans and running shoes" then the symbiote will manipulate it's body to suit the hosts need. As for spidey on this same subject, maybe he'd rather have the symbiote mimick his costume, but at the same time appear different.

[Arcturus]

It was about 3 pages ago when I last posted, so I won't quote any of the responses I got, but let me say this:

I'm not a whiner. I'm not a person who says "this movie is going to suck" just because I see one or two things I don't like. I was totally behing Spider-Man 2, expected a great movie, and wasn't let down. The problem with SM3 is that unlike SM1 and 2, I don't like the chosen villains, I don't like one of the chosen actors... at all (Topher Grace would fit better in Brokeback Mountain 2 than in Spider-Man 3), and I am totally opposed to bringing in Gwen Stacey at this point. Not to mention how upset I am at the loss of Elfman, and that I think that multiple villains are what's going to turn the Spider-Man series into the Batman series.

I feel that Raimi knew what he was doing for the first two films, but I also feel he has painted himself into a corner by trying to limit himself to three films. He's already got a whole film's worth of open plotlines to close, and he's adding many, many more on top of that. It's just too much. Unless we end up with some assache three and a half hour film, this film is going to feel rushed.

So until I actually see the film, I've got very low expectations for this film.

Please, Sam Raimi, I beg you to prove me wrong.

Agreed, all I will say on my part is I will wait until I see the actual film and pass judgement then. Until then I will wait, but I wont hold my breath.

[CouchQuarterbck]

Agreed. Another idea is...if it's an intelligent alien lifeform, maybe it can respond to the hosts mind and follow whatever command the host issues "I wanna look big and mean, give me muscles and sharp teeth" or "I need a t-shrit, jeans and running shoes" then the symbiote will manipulate it's body to suit the hosts need. As for spidey on this same subject, maybe he'd rather have the symbiote mimick his costume, but at the same time appear different.

I like that idea...it definitely helps Grace's position. Since everyone's complaining about how small he is, than your idea would work perfectly, because that would make Brock a sort of jealous, envious character...but I just don't see all of that getting done in one movie

[Kittie Rose]

I'm still scratching my head as to what Ultimate Green Goblin was supposed to be.

Yeah... to be quite frank he's a bit of a Catastrophe. Cool as a once off "The Green Goblin is Hulkin ooouuut!" thing, but not as a long running central villian. That's just pants.

It's a shame, because if it wasn't for that, the Ultimate Universe would be a perfectly viable alternative to 616.

When I read the first GG arc, I presumed that he would be a once off "overdose" reaction to the Oz that also explained where his Goblin strength comes from. The Goblins are SUPPOSED to be nuts, so I don't see what's wrong with having the mask.

I'd have based Ultimate Green Goblin off something like this:

http://marvellegends.net/images/SpiderMan/Individuals/S6BoxGreenGoblin.jpg

The "Really mutates!" idea was pretty decent, but I think he still should have better resembled the 616 Goblin.

Ultimate Spidey feels kind of crappy with out Spidey's Ultimate foe.

I don't personally think that Green Goblin design would have looked any more ridiculous if it was that design instead of the movie one. I think that that design is a more realistic approach on the character than either the classic design or the movie one.

I can't remember who's art it's based off though... It's quite possible it might not predate Spider-Man the Movie/Ultimate Spider-man.

[Sean Adisano]

Random ideas or not...they're pretty good. I suppose some sort of parasitic organism would make said host bigger, but I would think they would make Spidey bigger, too...If it's a chemical, then it would react to everyone differently.

just a thought on that idea, maybe it could react on emotions. it takes a bigger form on brock because of his anger and hatred for spider-man. it takes a smaller or just goes over peter normally because peter doesn't have that anger in him, at this point he's pretty happy in life, since he has m.j now. just my thought.

[General_Grievous]

Yeah... to be quite frank he's a bit of a Catastrophe. Cool as a once off "The Green Goblin is Hulkin ooouuut!" thing, but not as a long running central villian. That's just pants.

It's a shame, because if it wasn't for that, the Ultimate Universe would be a perfectly viable alternative to 616.

When I read the first GG arc, I presumed that he would be a once off "overdose" reaction to the Oz that also explained where his Goblin strength comes from. The Goblins are SUPPOSED to be nuts, so I don't see what's wrong with having the mask.

I'd have based Ultimate Green Goblin off something like this:

http://marvellegends.net/images/SpiderMan/Individuals/S6BoxGreenGoblin.jpg

But thats only a slight tweak on the ASM design.

[gdw]

I do find it rather odd to suddenly go from one villan in both previous films suddenly up to 3. That is IF they are doing that.

It's one thing to add another villian for impact and to up the anty, but to just jump up like that??

I am fairly certain mind you that there will be more then just Sandman. Simply, even though Rami and Tobey are rather fond of him, he will not be able to hold up the whole movie as the only real oposition.

Although you could argue that Spider-man 2 had Harry as a psuedo villan too so it's really only adding one villan, and developing on another.

Also depending on how it is handled in the script could make it work. I just really do NOT want to see a huge four super being battle at the end.

Like I've said before, i would rather see Venom come in at the end and kill Sadman. A "team-up," I think, would just not come across very well on screen. It would feel too contrived. That is with these particular two, sandman and venom. I don't see them really having anything to offer eachother aside from brute force.

[General_Grievous]

just a thought on that idea, maybe it could react on emotions. it takes a bigger form on brock because of his anger and hatred for spider-man. it takes a smaller or just goes over peter normally because peter doesn't have that anger in him, at this point he's pretty happy in life, since he has m.j now. just my thought.

I thought of this myself.

I also wondered what the symbiote would have been like had it attached to a normal human before going to Brock? Would it have killed him? Was it the fact that out of all the life on planet Earth the symbiote bonded with Peter which caused it to be completely different?

The symbiote altered due to Peters abilities, so what would the symbiote do if it attached to a regular Joe?

You can argue that Brock is a regular Joe, but he inherited the suit after it had absorbed and borrowed certain traits from Peter...

[Arcturus]

This is just a general idea as to what I think, believe me that I will say this, in no way, shape or form am I right. In no order, just random thoughts;

- Sandman gets defeated by Spider-Man

- Harry becomes GG2 and Spider-Man and him tangle, prehaps this will be the main focus of the movie, and Harry may or may not die, maybe MJ dies, maybe Gwen dies, maybe Aunt May dies.

- Somewhere along the line, the symbiote (any origin) gets introduced and it attaches to spidey, probarbly near the start.

- All the while the story is going on, Eddie Brock is developing his hatred/grudge etc against Peter Parker for whatever reason.

-Near the end, the symbiote leaves Peter Parker and attaches to Eddie Brock setting Venom up for SM-4 if thats the case.

[Kittie Rose]

But thats only a slight tweak on the ASM design.

It's a lot more gritty and realistic than the original design if you ask me.

[CouchQuarterbck]

I thought of this myself.

I also wondered what the symbiote would have been like had it attached to a normal human before going to Brock? Would it have killed him? Was it the fact that out of all the life on planet Earth the symbiote bonded with Peter which caused it to be completely different?

The symbiote altered due to Peters abilities, so what would the symbiote do if it attached to a regular Joe?

You can argue that Brock is a regular Joe, but he inherited the suit after it had absorbed and borrowed certain traits from Peter...

I realize this is far-fetched...and has nothing to do with the comics....but what would happen if the symbiote affected Spidey, turned Brock into Venom, and created Sandman? It would at least flow togther movie-wise....

[Sean Adisano]

I thought of this myself.

I also wondered what the symbiote would have been like had it attached to a normal human before going to Brock? Would it have killed him? Was it the fact that out of all the life on planet Earth the symbiote bonded with Peter which caused it to be completely different?

The symbiote altered due to Peters abilities, so what would the symbiote do if it attached to a regular Joe?

You can argue that Brock is a regular Joe, but he inherited the suit after it had absorbed and borrowed certain traits from Peter...

very true. peter's DNA is different then a normal human, i mean its not even human, its spider DNA. maybe they will make that a point in the movie. i hope they do.

maybe they will have it attach to someone before peter, have it kill the person, then when it attaches to peter, we all gasp...but to our surprise it doesn't kill peter, why:confused: because he's not human. probably won't happen, but you raise an interesting point, and i think this would be cool to see.

[Kittie Rose]

This is just a general idea as to what I think, believe me that I will say this, in no way, shape or form am I right. In no order, just random thoughts;

- Sandman gets defeated by Spider-Man

- Harry becomes GG2 and Spider-Man and him tangle, prehaps this will be the main focus of the movie, and Harry may or may not die, maybe MJ dies, maybe Gwen dies, maybe Aunt May dies.

- Somewhere along the line, the symbiote (any origin) gets introduced and it attaches to spidey, probarbly near the start.

- All the while the story is going on, Eddie Brock is developing his hatred/grudge etc against Peter Parker for whatever reason.

-Near the end, the symbiote leaves Peter Parker and attaches to Eddie Brock setting Venom up for SM-4 if thats the case.

Personally, I think Venom is the main villian, Sandman is just a minor villian with a touching plot, and Harry and Gwen are the main "Peter Parker" focus of the movie. If Harry becomes the goblin, it will be quick and probably on Peter's side. We shouldn't be viewing him as a fully villian. I think it'll be more like 1 and 3/4 "villians", 1 being Venom, 1/2 being Sandman, and 1/4 being Harry. I think that Venom will be the main thing in Spider-man's life, and Harry will be the main thing in Peter Parker's life, but both crossing over heavily(Symbiote's knowledge,

Spidey will get the suit at the beginning of the movie, and discards it before the half way point. Venom comes into it a little while after Topher keeps popping up everywhere acting creepy.

[octogon]

Love the BLACK SPIDEY suit...However I wonder if it's truth or metaphore. Based on all the other posters we've seen in past history, this leans towards a possible scene in the movie. I guess we have over 1 year to find out. Also, I agree with those who say it is a picture of Spider-Man in mourning. His body language implies that, but we will know the truth in May 2007.

Anyone here made note that the SPIDER-MAN Movies have drawn a lot of its inspiration and direction from the Ultimate Spider-Man line of comics? In that series, Gwen Stacy comes into Peter's life, but they were not lovers, just very close friends. And MJ & Parker weren't doing so well and having Gwen around just made things worst. Anywho, Venom shows up in that series, and kills Gwen. This may give insight to some direction the movie may follow. We should not be surprised that Gwen will likely die...that's Marvel Universe History. It is however interesting to introduce her when in original history, she's killed by the Green Goblin, and what do we have here...Harry Osborne discovers the Goblin Gear. Coincidence? I think not. The main thing we can contemplate is WHO will kill Gwen Stacy, Goblin or Venom?

[Sean Adisano]

I realize this is far-fetched...and has nothing to do with the comics....but what would happen if the symbiote affected Spidey, turned Brock into Venom, and created Sandman? It would at least flow togther movie-wise....

i'm not sure about creating sandman. i say stick with his original origin of creation.

[CouchQuarterbck]

i'm not sure about creating sandman. i say stick with his original origin of creation.

I hope so....but you never know....

[General_Grievous]

It's a lot more gritty and realistic than the original design if you ask me.

Perhaps. All's I see is a figure that looks like a more evil version of Alex Ross' artwork.

[General_Grievous]

I hope so....but you never know....

We don't know what his creation in the film will be. Heck, he may be Sandy when we first see him and his backstory could be done in flashbacks.

[Sean Adisano]

I hope so....but you never know....

well they may alter it they may not...just as long as the symbiote has nothing to do with sandman, i'll be happy.

[Sean Adisano]

We don't know what his creation in the film will be. Heck, he may be Sandy when we first see him and his backstory could be done in flashbacks.


another possibility

[Kittie Rose]

I don't see why Venom can't be set up and done in one movie, if Sandman is only a filler villian, and Harry is more of a Peter Parker thing.

[CouchQuarterbck]

another possibility

They may not even explain it...he may only have a small role in the very beginning of the film, maybe start the movie off at a more fast pace with him in only one fight, instead of the slow start the first two movies had...

[CouchQuarterbck]

I don't see why Venom can't be set up and done in one movie, if Sandman is only a filler villian, and Harry is more of a Peter Parker thing.

Yeah-if none of the other guys play signifcant roles, they could probably fit it all in. But they're probably gonna shorten the backstory up alot, to keep from boring us.

[Kittie Rose]

I think that that's what he's going to be too. Just that he'll have some background as well. We'll see him talking to his wife and kids, and then set off to rob a bank or something. Spidey will then defeat him with the Symbiote costume or something.

The rest of the movie will all be about building up Venom villianwise, with the possibility of Harry.

[Kittie Rose]

Yeah-if none of the other guys play signifcant roles, they could probably fit it all in. But they're probably gonna shorten the backstory up alot, to keep from boring us.

To do the Venom story right, they need another villian for Spidey to test the black costume against. Harry doesn't count because we don't know what he'll end up doing. I think most likely he'll end up saving Spidey's ass at the end against Venom. Traditionally Spidey was never able to beat him on his own.

[The_Dark_Knight]

but isnt THC a kinda big name? I dont think they would give him a small role. But hey, I could be wrong

[devilgirl]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/max121/kitten.jpg Rami didnt put much effort into it .


This movie doesnt really have me hyped. i wish it did...but...sandman?...tofu grace...ive seen more exciting things growing on my brothers bedroom floor.

Tofu is about as threatening as a turtle and what can sandman do?

"you angerd me and now i will throw sand in your eye! bawahhaaha"
"oh noes"

i mean i love rami's work..but this movie is a mess

[General_Grievous]

He said in his StarBurst interview that he's the arch nemesis throughout the film and Topher only comes in at the very end.

[CouchQuarterbck]

To do the Venom story right, they need another villian for Spidey to test the black costume against. Harry doesn't count because we don't know what he'll end up doing. I think most likely he'll end up saving Spidey's ass at the end against Venom. Traditionally Spidey was never able to beat him on his own.

Good observation...I suppose that's what Sandman is for...I do think Harry won't become the Green Goblin in this one, so saving him is more probable. Maybe he doesn't beat Venom at all....just another cliffhanger

[The_Dark_Knight]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/max121/kitten.jpg Rami didnt put much effort into it .


My thoughts exacly Devilgirl.

[CouchQuarterbck]

but isnt THC a kinda big name? I dont think they would give him a small role. But hey, I could be wrong

Yeah,, but he's getting kinda old. A movie like this, even with a small role, would help his career immensly

[Kittie Rose]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/max121/kitten.jpg Rami didnt put much effort into it .


This movie doesnt really have me hyped. i wish it did...but...sandman?...tofu grace...ive seen more exciting things growing on my brothers bedroom floor.

Tofu is about as threatening as a turtle and what can sandman do?

"you angerd me and now i will throw sand in your eye! bawahhaaha"
"oh noes"

i mean i love rami's work..but this movie is a mess


HAHAHA. I now officially love you :) I think SM3 will surprise you though. Nothing's really been confirmed yet, we don't even know for sure if those teaser pics were just to mess with us or not. I like Sandman but I don't think he should have such a big part of a movie, or be done before villians like the Lizard or the Scorpion.

[devilgirl]

HAHAHA. I now officially love you :) I think SM3 will surprise you though.
*sniff sniff* i smell cino pride.

i love me too.

[TheCardPlayer]

One thing is sure.

Venom is not the main villain. THC said that Topher Grace becomes Venom at the very end.

That's not the last 30 minutes...It's the very end!

[ZER0C00L]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/max121/kitten.jpg Rami didnt put much effort into it .


This movie doesnt really have me hyped. i wish it did...but...sandman?...tofu grace...ive seen more exciting things growing on my brothers bedroom floor.

Tofu is about as threatening as a turtle and what can sandman do?

"you angerd me and now i will throw sand in your eye! bawahhaaha"
"oh noes"

i mean i love rami's work..but this movie is a mess

Exactly :down

Spider symbiot is so boring. huge waste of a cool design.

Im not even hyped for this movie either. the whole idea of this trilogy is boring. i could care less to see Harry become the Goblin it was executed poorly. his dad was a jerk to him through out his childhood then became a psycho killing people. how is that justified to become the Goblin in his dads honor. it was executed poorly. people groaned when i watched spider man 2 and Harry found the goblin suit.

the love story was executed poorly as well. enough so for fans to want more spider man being spider man. but Rami gives us a mute, and a peter parker as a walking stiff.

[Symbiotica]

I give this thread my official Seal of Disapproval; I have not read a greater amount of sheer, unadulterated.... [expletive deleted] since MST3K's late, unlamented "Is Dr. Octopus Ripping Off The Matrix?" thread, extant in the S-M2 Spoilers forum.

[devilgirl]

One thing is sure.

Venom is not the main villain. THC said that Topher Grace becomes Venom at the very end.

That's not the last 30 minutes...It's the very end!


whats the point of it though if its the last spiderman film.

tossing the best villain in at the last momment? it's like comic geek blue balls

[Kittie Rose]

One thing is sure.

Venom is not the main villain. THC said that Topher Grace becomes Venom at the very end.

That's not the last 30 minutes...It's the very end!

Um, what makes you think THC knows what he's talking about? Maybe he was just following fan speculation.

[ZER0C00L]

whats the point of it though if its the last spiderman film.

tossing the best villain in at the last momment? it's like comic geek blue balls

Rami was the wrong choice. i wish Fincher had gotten this. it would have been amazing. he can direct comedy and make an amazingly visual film. He didnt get the job becuase he wanted Gwen to be in it and die.

If anything like that happens in the third movie i will just be wishing people werent dumb enough not to do this in the first place..

I like Rami's stuff but he sucks with bugets and he didn't bring spider man to life to me. His choices were never right.

[Kittie Rose]

Hey, let's create symbiote'd versions of famous celebrity people.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/Wetflame/kevinbacons.jpg

Symbiote Kevin Bacon.

[MutantCircus]

whats the point of it though if its the last spiderman film.

tossing the best villain in at the last momment? it's like comic geek blue balls
Indeed.

*eddie merges with symbiote*

FANS: Holy **** yes!

*movie ends*

FANS: WHAT THE ****!!!!

[Arcturus]

Indeed.

*eddie merges with symbiote*

FANS: Holy **** yes!

*movie ends*

FANS: WHAT THE ****!!!!

Agreed, and thus the waiting begins again until 2024 or something.

:(

[CouchQuarterbck]

Hey, let's create symbiote'd versions of famous celebrity people.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/Wetflame/kevinbacons.jpg

Symbiote Kevin Bacon.

That looks more like Kevin Bacon just got out of Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory..."You're turning violet, Violet!" :(

[The Last Meatbag]

nice sig kittie rose :o

[Kittie Rose]

nice sig kittie rose :o

Well like I said, without the letters E, M and O, you can't spell Spoder-Man.

[ragdus]

this won't be the last one. these films are making way too much money, and even if you aren't fans they're much better superhero films than anything out there (batman begins aside)

Elektra sucked
Daredevil sucked
X-Men... well, not bad, but not as good as spidey
Punisher sucked
Fantastic 4 sucked
Hulk sucked
Superman is going to suck. (speculative)

For the most part, super heroes do not translate well to film. The reason Batman and Spidey can buck the trend is they are much more human stories that people continually relate to. So they'll pay money to go watch these guy's lives suck.

[CouchQuarterbck]

this won't be the last one. these films are making way too much money, and even if you aren't fans they're much better superhero films thank anything out there (batman begins aside)

Elektra sucked
Daredevil sucked
X-Men... well, not bad, but not as good as spidey
Punisher sucked
Fantastic 4 sucked
Hulk sucked
Superman is going to suck. (speculative)

For the most part, super heroes do not translate well to film. The reason Batman and Spidey can buck the trend is they are much more human stories that people continually relate to. So they'll pay money to go watch these guy's lives suck.

Agreed. However, I actually liked The Punisher, but maybe that was because he got the crap beat out of him....

[kwangus]

this won't be the last one. these films are making way too much money, and even if you aren't fans they're much better superhero films than anything out there (batman begins aside)

Elektra sucked
Daredevil sucked
X-Men... well, not bad, but not as good as spidey
Punisher sucked
Fantastic 4 sucked
Hulk sucked
Superman is going to suck. (speculative)

For the most part, super heroes do not translate well to film. The reason Batman and Spidey can buck the trend is they are much more human stories that people continually relate to. So they'll pay money to go watch these guy's lives suck.


fanstatic four was alright, punisher was good, and the xmen franchise is 2nd best only to the spiderman franchise. other then that the rest really do suck

[MutantCircus]

this won't be the last one. these films are making way too much money, and even if you aren't fans they're much better superhero films than anything out there (batman begins aside)

Elektra sucked
Daredevil sucked
X-Men... well, not bad, but not as good as spidey
Punisher sucked
Fantastic 4 sucked
Hulk sucked
Superman is going to suck. (speculative)

For the most part, super heroes do not translate well to film. The reason Batman and Spidey can buck the trend is they are much more human stories that people continually relate to. So they'll pay money to go watch these guy's lives suck.I couldn't disagree more.

The first two Batman movies were great.
The first two Superman films were incredible.
Spider-Man 1 and 2 were awesome.
Both X-Men films are great. Not perfect but certainly well above-average films.
Batman Begins was also not perfect, but extremely entertaining.
Blade was awesome.
Constantine was awesome.
Hellboy rocks my socks.

Superheroes translate incredibly well to film. The horrible franchises don't get sequels. (There's not going to be a Hulk sequel, no matter how much Marvel pretends there will be, and Electra was only a failed attempt to use the best character from Daredevil and make more money off her.) But Raimi is slowly losing it this time around. This film is a mess, unlike the last two films. With every new bit of news I lose more and more hope for this film, unlike the other films which made me more and more excited until I found myself first in line.

[CouchQuarterbck]

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[MutantCircus]

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