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TrilogyMan2306
04-02-2006, 09:36 PM
further proof that the suit is indeed black and not just a dumb representation of a darker tone in the third movie .... this is right from marvel.com ....


SPIDEY GETS THE RED OUT
From USA Today: An exclusive first image from Spider-Man 3, due in theaters in May 2007, indicates a change of garb, as Spidey shifts from his signature red suit to black....

WTFimVENOM
04-02-2006, 09:50 PM
0.o queue meatwad voice: do what now?
lol

Cyclops
04-02-2006, 10:36 PM
What about Bryan Singer, he didn't even try when it came to the X-Men costumes. He slapped black leather on everyone and said go get em' boys. What about Tim Burton and Nolan, how lazy are they, there Bats' costumes look nothing like the comics? The list goes on and on, there's a lot of half-assing going on according to you. Stop acting like you've never seen this done before.

Umm... looking nothing like the comics is different than...

SPRAY-PAINTING A PREVIOUS MOVIE'S COSTUME A DIFFERENT COLOR.

How many times do I have to explain this? I thought you were intelligent, Visionary.

SsM
04-02-2006, 10:53 PM
Umm... looking nothing like the comics is different than...

SPRAY-PAINTING A PREVIOUS MOVIE'S COSTUME A DIFFERENT COLOR.

How many times do I have to explain this? I thought you were intelligent, Visionary.

Maybe he just wants to spend the budget on things he deems more important, Its just a movie :)**prepares to get yelled at**

Cyclops
04-02-2006, 11:36 PM
If he didn't deem it very important, then it probably should have been left out. Plain and simple. Leave only important stuff in and don't half-ass the unimportant stuff. Audiences will notice a half-ass attempt with ease.

Unless they're obsessed, "Everything about this film is perfect, and anybody who doesn't agree doesn't deserve to see this movie" idiots.

Symbiotica
04-03-2006, 01:28 AM
No, not at all.
What I think is happening here is: you are jumping to conclusions and getting yourself all worked up over something that you know absolutely nothing about.
You're making wild assumptions based on one single image released by the movie studio.

.... Do you have information the rest of us have not seen? I can think of no other basis for the sweeping generalizations you are making. People worried about this "black suit" being a. silly and b. laziness on the part of the costume dept. are "jumping to conclusions"? If so, please tell us exactly how YOU KNOW that things are going to turn out peachy-keen and all will be right with our worlds... because really, we'd like to be just as happy and just as upbeat as you are about all of this. Share your info. We're dying to know.

I thinkest thou might be doing a wee bit of conclusion-jumping of thine own.

"[We] don't deserve this movie, [we] really don't?" I have a feeling you may be right - but for the opposite of your intended reason. You are correct: I as a loyal fan sure don't deserve a suit spraypainted black. Who may be wearing it is a completely different issue; the spraypainting alone is in its own little realm of craptasticness.

I also think you should calm down before you have an aneurysm over all this: its obvious you're extremely upset over these issues, and I'm worried about you. [Just a little reverse-psychology that you love to dish out so much, for you this time - have a nice day :)]

Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2006, 02:08 AM
.... Do you have information the rest of us have not seen? I can think of no other basis for the sweeping generalizations you are making. People worried about this "black suit" being a. silly and b. laziness on the part of the costume dept. are "jumping to conclusions"? If so, please tell us exactly how YOU KNOW that things are going to turn out peachy-keen and all will be right with our worlds... because really, we'd like to be just as happy and just as upbeat as you are about all of this. Share your info. We're dying to know.

I thinkest thou might be doing a wee bit of conclusion-jumping of thine own.

"[We] don't deserve this movie, [we] really don't?" I have a feeling you may be right - but for the opposite of your intended reason. You are correct: I as a loyal fan sure don't deserve a suit spraypainted black. Who may be wearing it is a completely different issue; the spraypainting alone is in its own little realm of craptasticness.

I also think you should calm down before you have an aneurysm over all this: its obvious you're extremely upset over these issues, and I'm worried about you. [Just a little reverse-psychology that you love to dish out so much, for you this time - have a nice day :)]

Let me tell you something princess...

I work for a company that is involved in developing products that are based on the Spider-Man movie licence, and that includes Spider-Man 3. I'm privy to the kind of information that would make you wet your pants.

However, professionalism, loyalty and an immense respect for my colleagues at the company I work for and at the movie studio that produces these amazing films are all factors that prevent me from ever disclosing facts or details about the film.

I'm so excited about this film, that I actively avoid anything even remotely spoilerish in and around my workplace.

So, in future, try not to jump to conclusions about the people that post on this forum.

Just a bit of friendly advice from your pal Crimson Dynamo.

http://i2.tinypic.com/swvnnb.jpg

The Joker
04-03-2006, 08:43 AM
I work for a company that is involved in developing products that are based on the Spider-Man movie licence, and that includes Spider-Man 3. I'm privy to the kind of information that would make you wet your pants.

However, professionalism, loyalty and an immense respect for my colleagues at the company I work for and at the movie studio that produces these amazing films are all factors that prevent me from ever disclosing facts or details about the film.


Do you have any idea how many times we've heard this from someone on these boards?? "Oooooh I work for Sony,or I have a best friend at Sony who told me this,that or the other about the movie.I can't tell you how I know this because I'll get in trouble blah blah blah".

Seen it thousands of times here.You offer no proof,nothing at all in fact but only your word that you have some kind of inside info.

Sorry not enough.As far as I'm concerned,and I reckon with most people here,you know just as much as we do.

So we'll continue to jump to all the conclusions we like.It's what keeps this forum going.

Cmill216
04-03-2006, 08:44 AM
Do you have any idea how many times we've heard this from someone on these boards?? "Oooooh I work for Sony,or I have a best friend at Sony who told me this,that or the other about the movie.I can't tell you how I know this because I'll get in trouble blah blah blah".

Seen it thousands of times here.You offer no proof,nothing at all in fact but only your word that you have some kind of inside info.

Sorry not enough.As far as I'm concerned,and I reckon with most people here,you know just as much as we do.


Tell that to edifice. :o

The Joker
04-03-2006, 08:45 AM
Tell that to edifice. :o

.........What??

Cmill216
04-03-2006, 08:47 AM
.........What??

Check out the last three pages of The Famous Q & A thread.

The Joker
04-03-2006, 08:52 AM
Check out the last three pages of The Famous Q & A thread.

Ah another poster with supposed inside info,who is just full of it.They're everywhere dude.Most do it for the attention.Others for a joke.

They all come crawling out of the woodwork.The SM-2 days were no different.Just wait til the trailers come out.

SpiderB
04-03-2006, 10:32 AM
I don't know why everybody's getting so worked up over this black costume. I think it looks fine. Not everything translates smoothly from comics to film, both visually or story-wise. I think having the symbiote blend itself into his original costume is more believable and will probably come across as more realistic on film than, say, a black goo that covers his whole body and disappears at will. Thing is, we don't know the circumstances of the story yet. Maybe when we see the movie it will all make sense and we'll be able to say "Oh, so that's why". Either way, I'm sure they tested different designs, probably even some closer to the comic version, but they chose this design for a reason. Just wait and see.

Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2006, 12:55 PM
Do you have any idea how many times we've heard this from someone on these boards?? "Oooooh I work for Sony,or I have a best friend at Sony who told me this,that or the other about the movie.I can't tell you how I know this because I'll get in trouble blah blah blah".

Seen it thousands of times here.You offer no proof,nothing at all in fact but only your word that you have some kind of inside info.

Sorry not enough.As far as I'm concerned,and I reckon with most people here,you know just as much as we do.

So we'll continue to jump to all the conclusions we like.It's what keeps this forum going.

Ha ha!

That's me told!

Visionary
04-03-2006, 01:07 PM
Umm... looking nothing like the comics is different than...

SPRAY-PAINTING A PREVIOUS MOVIE'S COSTUME A DIFFERENT COLOR.

How many times do I have to explain this? I thought you were intelligent, Visionary.
You have never, nor do you need to explained anything to me, what am I your stepchild? :o

Maybe they like this version BETTER (for whatever the reason), have you ever thought of that? They care not for what you like, because you didn't chip in on the 200M+ to make the film. Personally, I think the symbiote should magically form into the classic suit complete with white spider logo (which is just as far-fetched as Sandman to these eyes). Verily, most casual movie-goers won't care one way or another when watching the trailers/movie, they'll be more intrigued as to why Spider-Man is wearing a black suit to begin with--except for purists whom really don't matter, because you're going see it regardless. Tell me you won't, so I can laugh, I need a good chuckle.

So, what are you going to do, keep ******ing and moaning when the costume (see Sony's poster version) has already been seen being filmed. Elizabeth Banks (actor who plays Betty Brant) said the suit was black. You can ****** about this until May 4, 2007, but I doubt the suit will change. Unless, Sony comes here and to their own boards, looks at all the posts/manips wanting the original suit, and decides to change it...I doubt it.

Frenzy
04-03-2006, 01:19 PM
What 'Black Costume'? Have I missed something? :):)

batman7289
04-03-2006, 01:52 PM
are you guys really that anxious to see what is going to happen in SM3. I thought people made movies to suspence people and give them their money's worth. So u guys shouldnt worry what is symbolizes. Just give it a rest

Visionary
04-03-2006, 01:55 PM
We will not.

Trevor Goodchild
04-03-2006, 03:00 PM
Different people have differnt values.
Someone here should give a rest to their pride and prejudice.
Whenever did a negative opinion become a crime?
So we believe that the suit is done lazy.
It shows we actualy care for something you don't.

sag002
04-03-2006, 03:01 PM
What 'Black Costume'? Have I missed something? :):)
Ummmm, yeah.:spidey:

War Party
04-03-2006, 03:50 PM
I like the suit. I don't really have a problem with it.

Cmill216
04-03-2006, 03:52 PM
I like the suit. I don't really have a problem with it.

The comic suit looks totally awesome (no doubt about that), but I am willing to give this suit more than a chance. I am intrigued to see it in action, HOPEFULLY, in an upcoming trailer.

War Party
04-03-2006, 03:54 PM
The comic suit looks totally awesome (no doubt about that), but I am willing to give this suit more than a chance. I am intrigued to see it in action, HOPEFULLY, in an upcoming trailer.

The suit in the comics is better, but I just don't get all worked up if something is changed in the movie. I don't know, maybe something is wrong with me, but I don't care if the suit is the same in the comic or not.

Silverstein
04-03-2006, 03:58 PM
You know something? We live in a world of technology. You can proove you are what you say you are without disclosing any information. You can show a picture of you outside of your building or something...You could scan up your bussiness card. Anything like that would be proof of "Hey I actually work here, so I'm not full of crap"

Otherwise people won't believe you. Not because you are particularly lying but because, like Doc Ock said, it's been said a thousand times before by people who WERE lying.

When you write a book report, you have to site your work. You can't assume that the teacher or professor will believe your "facts" because of your charm.

It's the same thing here. If you want to be believed, proove it. So they have a valid point. And it goes for anyone.

THOUGH, I do think that it is premature to say the suit is lame just yet. We don't know if it's even going to look like that the whole movie. There could be stages. Stage one is a black and white version of the red and blue. Stage two could be the more classic looking Venom costume. And then stage 3 would be it leaving Peter, engulfing Venom and being the venom costume.

So there's no reason to hate or dislike it whatever without anymore information than just the one picture. It at least makes sense anyway. If it's indeed the alien costume, then Peter only needs it to look like his costume. Hence it being a black and white remake. where it goes from there.....we'll see?

[EDIT time 4:57: I posted this on the wrong thread a few minutes ago because I'm the idiot that has too many windows open. But anyway...]

Symbiotica
04-03-2006, 04:03 PM
First he says:

However, professionalism, loyalty and an immense respect for my colleagues at the company I work for and at the movie studio that produces these amazing films are all factors that prevent me from ever disclosing facts or details about the film.

Then he says:

I'm so excited about this film, that I actively avoid anything even remotely spoilerish in and around my workplace.

Am I alone in seeing a dichotomy here...? First he implies he has behind-the-scenes knowledge, then says he goes out of his way to avoid "spoilers." You can't have it both ways, dude.

Not that I believe a thing he says anyways, since it seems half the forum is either involved in production themselves, or has a best friend/cousin/in-law/brother/dad/best enemy/ex involved. Uh-huh... All of these people cannot possibly be telling the truth...

Still continent:
~n.

p.s.

Maybe they like this version BETTER (for whatever the reason), have you ever thought of that? They care not for what you like, because you didn't chip in on the 200M+ to make the film.

Whatever, Oscar:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/octopus/Oscar.jpg

They better care whether or not the audience likes that suit, the script and the cast, if they ever want that half-a-billion to ever see the light of day again. Your suggestion that this is going to be a mega-hit embraced by [i]everyone on the planet, no matter what, makes me laugh. I honestly find that hilarious.

I know the people who made Batman & Robin, Catwoman and Batman Forever were thinking the exact same thing. :up: Great reasoning, keep it up and soon you'll be ranking on a level with Dragon as far as Hype members whose logic simply cannot be flawed - agree on the stance or not.

.... how about not, Oscar.

Crimson Dynamo
04-03-2006, 04:30 PM
Am I alone in seeing a dichotomy here...? First he implies he has behind-the-scenes knowledge, then says he goes out of his way to avoid "spoilers." You can't have it both ways, dude.

Not that I believe a thing he says anyways, since it seems half the forum is either involved in production themselves, or has a best friend/cousin/in-law/brother/dad/best enemy/ex involved. Uh-huh... All of these people cannot possibly be telling the truth... [I lean toward the view that NONE of them are telling the truth, but I'm suspicious by nature to begin with.]







Silly Symbiotica. I can have it both ways.

I said I was privy to information. What I mean by this is: My job requires that I know certain things about certain projects. Sometimes more than others.
So, yes, I will by default have information that most people won't have access to.

However, as I said, I do try to avoid hearing about certain projects, mainly because I'm a huge fan and I don't want the whole movie ruined before I get to the theatre. Also, it makes speculating on these forums all the more fun.

Now, I know that you're intelligent enough to understand that Symbiotica, and armed with that knowledge we can hopefully avoid these silly misunderstandings in future.

Okay? Cool!

Trevor Goodchild
04-03-2006, 04:42 PM
THOUGH, I do think that it is premature to say the suit is lame just yet. We don't know if it's even going to look like that the whole movie. There could be stages. Stage one is a black and white version of the red and blue. Stage two could be the more classic looking Venom costume. And then stage 3 would be it leaving Peter, engulfing Venom and being the venom costume.
Yeah, exactly, I thought about the same thing.
Of course, from a pessimistic point of view, that could just be considered a mere fantasy fabricated by our own minds to bend the harsh reality into our own little perfect world. Boy did that sound nasty…
In this case, as far as I'm concerned, I work with what is given to me. And that pic, as ‘cool’ looking as it may be, be it the actual permanent suit or one of its ‘stages’, it still in my opinion seems unoriginal as in comparison to the film’s red and blue costume and the comic book symbiote suit just as well.
The problem is our complete lack of knowledge and, while I don’t go all out, calling it an outrage and completely loosing faith in SM3, I don’t like simply settling with it either.

Cyclops
04-03-2006, 10:53 PM
You have never, nor do you need to explained anything to me, what am I your stepchild? :o

No, Luke... I am your father.

Maybe they like this version BETTER (for whatever the reason), have you ever thought of that? They care not for what you like, because you didn't chip in on the 200M+ to make the film. Personally, I think the symbiote should magically form into the classic suit complete with white spider logo (which is just as far-fetched as Sandman to these eyes). Verily, most casual movie-goers won't care one way or another when watching the trailers/movie, they'll be more intrigued as to why Spider-Man is wearing a black suit to begin with--except for purists whom really don't matter, because you're going see it regardless. Tell me you won't, so I can laugh, I need a good chuckle.

I've said it before in this very thread, I'll say it again. Just because I don't approve of one single factor of a movie does not mean I am going to outright boycott the whole film. I have never said that, nor will I ever say that.

But I will say what is on my mind. And what is on my mind is that it is lazy to spraypaint an old suit black and call it a new suit. They should just call it what it is: a recolored version of the old outfit.

So, what are you going to do, keep ******ing and moaning when the costume (see Sony's poster version) has already been seen being filmed. Elizabeth Banks (actor who plays Betty Brant) said the suit was black. You can ****** about this until May 4, 2007, but I doubt the suit will change. Unless, Sony comes here and to their own boards, looks at all the posts/manips wanting the original suit, and decides to change it...I doubt it.

No. I've said my piece, and will only continue saying my piece as long as people like you keep ragging on me for saying my piece. Am I looking for a change? No. Am I railing and insulting the creators and calling them names? No. Am I threatening to boycott the movie? No. I am just saying that I do not approve of the repaint.

How many times do I have to say that until you people will understand that? God damn.

You know what? Just to make false "Visionaries" like yourself happy, I'll say what you want to hear.

"EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS FILM IS LOVELY LOVELY LOVELY! I DON'T HAVE A SINGLE NEGATIVE OPINION ABOUT ANYTHING CONCERNING IT, BECAUSE IF I DID, THEN I WOULDN'T BE WORTHY OF PAYING MONEY TO SEE THE MOVIE!"

Are you happy now? :rolleyes:

C. Lee
04-03-2006, 11:16 PM
Calm down guys.....

Visionary
04-03-2006, 11:56 PM
I stopped reading after..."I am your father." :O

Cyclops
04-04-2006, 12:07 AM
Yeah, that's the easy way out. :p Wuss.

Visionary
04-04-2006, 12:29 AM
Easy way out of what?

IronSpidy
04-04-2006, 12:30 AM
When might we see set pics of the black costume?

Cyclops
04-04-2006, 12:34 AM
Easy way out of admitting that your arrogant assumptions concerning my opinions and intents were wholly, utterly wrong is all. It's much easier to pretend you didn't read what I said than admit that my opinion, despite how contrary it may be to 527 of you, is valid.

Unleashed
04-04-2006, 12:34 AM
When might we see set pics of the black costume?
We already have.

Cyclops
04-04-2006, 12:34 AM
When might we see set pics of the black costume?

Um... on the first page of this thread might be a good place to look, you know.

IronSpidy
04-04-2006, 12:42 AM
Um...I looked on the first page....and only saw the promo pic. Where are the set pics?

Cyclops
04-04-2006, 12:44 AM
That IS the pic. Nobody ever said anything about set pics.

There's a photo manipulation of a set pic, but that's all it is.

IronSpidy
04-04-2006, 12:48 AM
We already have.I asked for set pics of the black costume.....and NO we dont have them yet.

Unleashed
04-04-2006, 12:51 AM
There are no set pics, I saw who asked for them so I assumed you made another mistake and meant the promo pic.

IronSpidy
04-04-2006, 12:57 AM
Doesnt that warrent an apology?

Unleashed
04-04-2006, 12:59 AM
no.

IronSpidy
04-04-2006, 01:00 AM
Why, cos you were wrong and I was right....your a sadcase.

Unleashed
04-04-2006, 01:01 AM
learn how to spell. You were not right. Doesn't Cyclops owe you an apology?

Cyclops
04-04-2006, 01:09 AM
Um... I don't owe anyone an apology.

Unleashed
04-04-2006, 01:11 AM
and neither do i

Spider-Bite
04-04-2006, 01:15 AM
I used to be unahppy with the black costume, but it has grown on me, and I'm now glad we got what we got.

GoldGoblin
04-04-2006, 01:17 AM
I used to be unahppy with the black costume, but it has grown on me, and I'm now glad we got what we got.

^That's how I felt about the Juggernaut costume for X-3.

Visionary
04-04-2006, 02:01 AM
It doesn't matter how you feel about the costume, they just want you in the theaters when the movies open. And neither film is going to have a problem getting you there.

Crimson Dynamo
04-04-2006, 02:20 AM
It doesn't matter how you feel about the costume, they just want you in the theaters when the movies open. And neither film is going to have a problem getting you there.

That makes so much sense it actually hurts.

Trevor Goodchild
04-04-2006, 07:02 AM
Don’t worry Visionary, whatever made you walk the path of pessimism, I know people like Raimi and Ratner do want us fans to be satisfied. I believe in human kindness. The world isn't all about capitalistic selfishness and indifference, as you were unfortunately led to believe.
Think about it, we are that lucky. If those two didn’t care about us, we would be getting a hell of a worse adaptations, like some others out there.

Cmill216
04-04-2006, 07:20 AM
Don’t worry Visionary, whatever made you walk the path of pessimism, I know people like Raimi and Ratner do want us fans to be satisfied. I believe in human kindness. The world isn't all about capitalistic selfishness and indifference, as you were unfortunately led to believe.
Think about it, we are that lucky. If those two didn’t care about us, we would be getting a hell of a worse adaptations, like some others out there.

Very very true. To think they don't care about the fans AT ALL...well, that's ludicrous thinking.

Spadoinkle
04-04-2006, 10:39 AM
I still don't believe its the black suit. I just think the whole "Spider-Man will wear a Black Suit" is a play on words. Parker's Tux will be black at a funeral, is what I believe.

Cmill216
04-04-2006, 11:19 AM
I still don't believe its the black suit. I just think the whole "Spider-Man will wear a Black Suit" is a play on words. Parker's Tux will be black at a funeral, is what I believe.

:venom: ....that's all I gotta say.

Crimson Dynamo
04-05-2006, 12:26 AM
I still don't believe its the black suit. I just think the whole "Spider-Man will wear a Black Suit" is a play on words. Parker's Tux will be black at a funeral, is what I believe.

You fool. You utter, utter fool.

Spider-Bite
04-05-2006, 02:06 AM
I originally preferred the original symbiote look, but I think I was simply biased with pre judged feelings from having been a comic book fan, but now it has had time to grow on me, and I really like this look.

Superman
04-05-2006, 05:16 AM
Can't say "I love it" but I do like it.:) :up:

crimsonrain650
04-07-2006, 08:02 PM
maybe this is the scene where peter wakes up in the suit for the first time?

Red
04-11-2006, 11:38 AM
Someone mentioned to me that spideys eyes looked different , but i didn't notice anything does anyone else?

Spider-Bite
04-11-2006, 01:19 PM
I still don't believe its the black suit. I just think the whole "Spider-Man will wear a Black Suit" is a play on words. Parker's Tux will be black at a funeral, is what I believe.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e115/jason142/CRACKKILLS.jpg

Sub-Zero
04-12-2006, 05:11 PM
I still don't believe its the black suit. I just think the whole "Spider-Man will wear a Black Suit" is a play on words. Parker's Tux will be black at a funeral, is what I believe.

what are you smoking? i've heard a lot of dumb things in my life, but this takes the cake!!:eek: :confused:

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2006, 05:12 PM
what are you smoking? i've heard a lot of dumb things in my life, but this takes the cake!!:eek: :confused:


I agree.

fangrl06
04-12-2006, 05:12 PM
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e115/jason142/CRACKKILLS.jpg
lmao

daveswb
04-12-2006, 08:46 PM
Ok, I don't know if people are still reading this thread but here goes.

First off I am tired of the people trying to say it's a black and white photo. It says on the official sony spiderman web site it is not a black and wite photo he is wearing black. So those still holding onto hope they aren't having the symbiote in the movie, give it up.

Second I think it's a great photo, with one exception. Look at his leg. There is a seem there. I know it's not that big of a deal, but the symbiote wouldn't have a seem in it. Why didn't they air brush it out? It ruins the effect of the over all photo.

Maybe I'm being picky, but you'd think for a promo photo they'd make sure it was perfect.

Trevor Goodchild
04-12-2006, 08:53 PM
And that's the whole deal actualy - Sony didn't use the word symbiote.
It is simply a black suit...for now at least.

TheCardPlayer
04-12-2006, 09:03 PM
And that's the whole deal actualy - Sony didn't use the word symbiote.
It is simply a black suit...for now at least.Name one black suit other then the symbiote. The one Black Cat made after the symbiote doesn't count as it was linked to the symbiote.

Trevor Goodchild
04-12-2006, 09:18 PM
Just being sceptical, that's all.
As I've already said, I'm not convinced of anything until the official announcement.
Most probably there will be a symbiote, yes. But in that picture it seems it’ll have more ordinary suit properties rather than those of a slick liquid.

Nebins
04-12-2006, 10:24 PM
Second I think it's a great photo, with one exception. Look at his leg. There is a seem there. I know it's not that big of a deal, but the symbiote wouldn't have a seem in it. Why didn't they air brush it out? It ruins the effect of the over all photo.

If the symbiot simply covers his old suit then the seem would still be there. I'm looking at it like it "stains" his suit black thats why the webs and seem are still there rather than having it make him an entirely new suit.

Goran
04-13-2006, 09:56 AM
Where's the thread about the theorie that spidey is sitting on a cross in the black-suit-pic????

matthooper
04-13-2006, 01:14 PM
The only reason the suit was black in the comics was that Spider-Man liked Spider-Girls new black costume. She had just changed her costume to black. Her costume had nothing to do with the symbiote, it was just a cool black style. The symbiote read from Pete's mind that he really liked Spider-Girls suit and made itself black. The suit can obviously turn itself any color. So my question is:

Why is it black in the film?

Jubba
04-13-2006, 01:26 PM
Name one black suit other then the symbiote.

Below is a black suit that spiderman is wearing that is NOT the symbiote. Just saying that it's possible to be many things. This pic is from the SHH Spiderman 2 set pics.



http://superherohype.com/gallery/Spider-Man/Spider-Man_2/On_Set/New_York/setpicsjuly49.jpg

SsM
04-13-2006, 01:30 PM
Below is a black suit that spiderman is wearing that is NOT the symbiote. Just saying that it's possible to be many things. This pic is from the SHH Spiderman 2 set pics.



http://superherohype.com/gallery/Spider-Man/Spider-Man_2/On_Set/New_York/setpicsjuly49.jpg

i love that pic :)

Dcknight
04-13-2006, 01:49 PM
Below is a black suit that spiderman is wearing that is NOT the symbiote. Just saying that it's possible to be many things. This pic is from the SHH Spiderman 2 set pics.



http://superherohype.com/gallery/Spider-Man/Spider-Man_2/On_Set/New_York/setpicsjuly49.jpg

Wich scene is suppose to be this pics!?!??!

TheCardPlayer
04-13-2006, 01:54 PM
Below is a black suit that spiderman is wearing that is NOT the symbiote. Just saying that it's possible to be many things. This pic is from the SHH Spiderman 2 set pics.



http://superherohype.com/gallery/Spider-Man/Spider-Man_2/On_Set/New_York/setpicsjuly49.jpghttp://www.marvel.com/news/.229


And I quote : Spidey shifts from his signature red suit to black.


What do you say now?

Chris Wallace
04-13-2006, 02:12 PM
The only reason the suit was black in the comics was that Spider-Man liked Spider-Girls new black costume. She had just changed her costume to black. Her costume had nothing to do with the symbiote, it was just a cool black style. The symbiote read from Pete's mind that he really liked Spider-Girls suit and made itself black. The suit can obviously turn itself any color. So my question is:

Why is it black in the film?
1. It's Spider-Woman. Spider-Girl is his daughter.
2. You're clearly gonna have to see the movie to find out why.

Jubba
04-13-2006, 02:25 PM
http://www.marvel.com/news/.229


And I quote : Spidey shifts from his signature red suit to black.


What do you say now?

Way to go, Sherlock. I was saying that the black suit does not HAVE to be the symbiote. I wasn't saying that he wouldn't wear a black suit. Read what I'm saying before you try to prove me wrong. Thanks for trying, though.

HughJackFan420
04-13-2006, 02:30 PM
i'm not gonna lie i hate the black suit. the pic that has been floating around and on the official site is weak. i'm not big on staying true to the comics cuz i've accepted the fact for some stupid reason people don't wanna stay true to the comics as far as costumes. i mean look at Juggernaut in X3. they need to stick with the original big white spider on the chest and white squares on the back of the hands suit like the comics. it looks a lot cooler. in the Spidey 3 pic it looks like they just took his original suit and made it black. what kind of half assed job is that? i hope they fix it.

matthooper
04-13-2006, 02:32 PM
1. It's Spider-Woman. Spider-Girl is his daughter.
2. You're clearly gonna have to see the movie to find out why.


Oops, I meant Spider-Woman. It's been a very long time since I read that Secret Wars comic.

Yes, we'll have to see why it's black in the film. My point was, there is actually no reason for it to be black.

Jubba
04-13-2006, 02:43 PM
Oops, I meant Spider-Woman. It's been a very long time since I read that Secret Wars comic.

Yes, we'll have to see why it's black in the film. My point was, there is actually no reason for it to be black.

Maybe MJ washes things together in the laundry and turns clothes pink from the red suit. So Peter makes a Black suit instead so it won't change the color of the laundry clothes. When the symbiote finds him he is wearing his black home-made suit and thus just uses black as its base colour. Or maybe whatever they use for the symbiote won't be able to be any color but black for whatever reason.

Chris Wallace
04-13-2006, 03:39 PM
They need to stick with the original big white spider on the chest and white squares on the back of the hands suit like the comics.
Says who?

Trevor Goodchild
04-13-2006, 04:38 PM
And that's the kind of "We can do whatever we want!" attitude that ruins adaptations.

Nebins
04-13-2006, 04:46 PM
I'm pretty sure the black suit is the symbiot. I don't see why they would be using any sort of double talk here. They already said the pic wasn't black and white.

Chris Wallace
04-13-2006, 04:49 PM
And that's the kind of "We can do whatever we want!" attitude that ruins adaptations.
I actually prefer it; it's a darker version of Spider-Man but not a radical makeover. Then again, maybe that eyesore he's wearing in the comics has put me off of radical makeovers.:spidey:

Jubba
04-13-2006, 05:53 PM
I'm pretty sure the black suit is the symbiot. I don't see why they would be using any sort of double talk here. They already said the pic wasn't black and white.

He could have BOTH during different parts of the movie - it is as yet unclear WHY he would have a black suit that is not the symbiote, but that doesn't mean that the picture Sony has released is not just a black suit. The symbiote could look quite different. We just don't know, but anything is still possible.

The Infernal
04-14-2006, 09:37 AM
Name one black suit other then the symbiote. The one Black Cat made after the symbiote doesn't count as it was linked to the symbiote.

The movie is different to the comics. Spidey could wear a black suit before the symbiote. Even if he does wear the symbiote it doesn't automaticaly mean that Venom will appear.

Though it does look more likely that he will with Dunst, Lee and Church saying he will but you never know what's really going on with them until it's finished.

Brian Braddock
04-14-2006, 09:50 AM
Venom will look like this in Spiderman 3.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/hassloop-778497.gif


Scary as hell.

The Infernal
04-14-2006, 09:57 AM
:eek: Please make it stop. :(

Spawn187
04-14-2006, 09:22 PM
I like the black suit it could have been better but its cool.

Jubba
04-16-2006, 01:20 PM
Kids love Spider-man.
Kids love Hallowe'en.
Kids love to dress up as Spider-man on Hallowe'en.
The old suit was bright and colourful.
The new suit is dark and non-reflective.
Kids will think the new suit is cool and dress in it for Hallowe'en 2007.
They will also probably dress as Venom if he's in the movie, another dark costume.
I hope we don't hear about a lot of kids getting hit by cars because of this.
Then again, I'm sure kids are dressed as Batman, who isn't a bright costume either.
Parents, watch your kids when they dress like this!
That is my public service message for today.

Trevor Goodchild
04-16-2006, 02:41 PM
I hate conventional Halloweens when everyone just has to dress up in as their favourite superhero or a happy fairy princess.
What happened to the blood splattered shirts, cut off limps, poked out eyeballs, claws, fangs, zombies, mummies, skeletons, Dracula, Frankenstein!? What happened to the real Halloween’s rotten Spirit!?

But that's besides the topic...

Untilteld
04-17-2006, 02:03 PM
Kids love Spider-man.
Kids love Hallowe'en.
Kids love to dress up as Spider-man on Hallowe'en.
The old suit was bright and colourful.
The new suit is dark and non-reflective.
Kids will think the new suit is cool and dress in it for Hallowe'en 2007.
They will also probably dress as Venom if he's in the movie, another dark costume.
I hope we don't hear about a lot of kids getting hit by cars because of this.
Then again, I'm sure kids are dressed as Batman, who isn't a bright costume either.
Parents, watch your kids when they dress like this!
That is my public service message for today.



*sniff sniff* I smell the next Halloween costume:spidey: :venom:

str8raz0r
04-17-2006, 11:51 PM
*sniff sniff* I smell the next Halloween costume:spidey: :venom:

Oddly enough, it smells like a Good Year buried in a prepubescent's head...:eek:

Jubba
04-18-2006, 12:01 AM
I hope they don't stick some sort of layman's science lesson into the movie about what a symbiotic relationship is...and then talk about parasitic instead of symbiotic and then compare that to the suit. Gah I hate when movies talk down to the audience...well, when I'm the audience, anyway.

Goran
05-08-2006, 10:07 AM
I just wondered whether Spidey's lenses are also going to be black?

Cmill216
05-08-2006, 10:14 AM
I just wondered whether Spidey's lenses are also going to be black?

Probably closer to white.

Brian Braddock
05-08-2006, 10:14 AM
I just wondered whether Spidey's lenses are also going to be black?

I admit that when I read this my first kneejerk reaction was 'WTF? Of course they won't -they where white in the comics and they'll be white in the film! there's no need to change them.'

Then I thought about it as I remembered that the movie black costume doesnt seem to follow the white aspects of the comics one. So, yeah, so its quite possible that the lenses used darker to fall in line with the new colours.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Goran
05-08-2006, 10:27 AM
I was wondering since I found an old pic for "Spider-Man" in which Spidey seems to have black lenses.

Here's the pic: http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/bugle/photos/popup/sm1_photos.php?slide=31

He kinda looks like an alien there :)

Nathan
05-08-2006, 10:31 AM
hmm... looks kinda cool with the black lenses.

Chris Wallace
05-08-2006, 10:35 AM
That Was The Lighting, I Think. Although In The First 2 Movies, He Kinda Rotated From White To Silver To Mirrored-depending On The Scene. I Expect The Same Here.

chosen1
05-08-2006, 11:19 AM
I like the black suit it could have been better but its cool.

It's the same suit as before:mad:

I don't get whoever decided to make this the black suit:mad:

Chris Wallace
05-08-2006, 11:37 AM
I View It As A Way Of Giving Fans What They Expect WITHOUT Giving Them What They Expect.

chosen1
05-08-2006, 11:52 AM
I View It As A Way Of Giving Fans What They Expect WITHOUT Giving Them What They Expect.


I mean I'm not tryint to be negative but to say I love the new black suit.

First off its not new and second its the same suit as before. I'm going to keep in my simple brain an opinion that whoever released that photo made a mistake.

I mean I don't care who said it's the black suit look at it it's the same suit and my brother pointed out when you see the little animation ona particular website when the lightning flashes you can see shading diffences where the black and red goes.

I Honestly think that is not the black costume it would be stupid if it was.
I tolerated spidey not having web trigger slingers but i will not tolerated this.

God bless you have a nice

Chris Wallace
05-08-2006, 11:55 AM
Huh?

chosen1
05-08-2006, 12:00 PM
Huh?

what?

Spider-Man™
05-08-2006, 01:31 PM
I like the suit, i'll give it a chance. :up:

gamemiester
05-08-2006, 01:41 PM
No matter what people say I think thats a Black and white photo.

SsM
05-08-2006, 01:45 PM
No matter what people say I think thats a Black and white photo. anything is possible... Highly improbable... But not impossible :P

faceplant
05-08-2006, 01:55 PM
No matter what people say I think thats a Black and white photo.

why do people keep saying this, sony says that he's wearing a black suit.

chosen1
05-08-2006, 01:56 PM
No matter what people say I think thats a Black and white photo.

Right there w/ ya :up:

gamemiester
05-08-2006, 01:57 PM
I know they do but I think its a trick still.

chosen1
05-08-2006, 01:57 PM
why do people keep saying this, sony says that he's wearing a black suit.


SONY SAID SONY SAID

that aint the black suit

Chris Wallace
05-08-2006, 01:57 PM
For The Same Reason Why They Said The Goblin Pics Were All Fake & That There Would Be No Organic Webbing In The Movie. People Like To Argue.

faceplant
05-08-2006, 01:58 PM
SONY SAID SONY SAID

that aint the black suit

how do you figure? they're not lying, why would they?

Chris Wallace
05-08-2006, 02:00 PM
I know they do but I think its a trick still.
WHY? :spidey:

gamemiester
05-08-2006, 05:25 PM
Why would they wanna give away such a vital part of the movie early on.

The symbiote suit looks nothing like that, I know it may have changed but that pic is the regular spidey suit just in black and white.

Why would the symbiote suit have web lines?

If sony wanted us to know that it was the black suit why didnt they show us a pic that we know IS the black suit, why make us wonder?

SpiderB
05-08-2006, 05:34 PM
Why would they wanna give away such a vital part of the movie early on.

The symbiote suit looks nothing like that, I know it may have changed but that pic is the regular spidey suit just in black and white.

Why would the symbiote suit have web lines?

If sony wanted us to know that it was the black suit why didnt they show us a pic that we know IS the black suit, why make us wonder?

Sony sent a caption with the photo itself stating "Spider-Man is wearing a black suit!" They assumed that by telling us this, that we would know it was the black suit and not a b&w photo. Guess they should have tried harder.

gamemiester
05-08-2006, 05:35 PM
I think theyre trying to lead us away and Topher will end up being someone like Electro.

Sub-Zero
05-08-2006, 05:46 PM
I think theyre trying to lead us away and Topher will end up being someone like Electro.

you are so in denial, its not even funny. he's brock/venom. deal with it. you need to learn by now that movies will never live up to fanboys's expectations.

gamemiester
05-08-2006, 05:48 PM
Well I do think he his Eddie but we dont have any solid proof.

The actors saying it could be false.

People believe he is Venom because thats what everyone has kept saying.

Sub-Zero
05-08-2006, 05:51 PM
no you don't think he's eddie because if you did you wouldn't have thought he wasn't going to be venom.

daveswb
05-08-2006, 06:03 PM
I know I read somewhere that the suit has the webbing because it's just on top of his regular suit. I think they've changed the concept of the symbiote a lot in this movie. I think that is what Rami meant when he said this will be the movie that departs from the comics the most.

But we will see

gamemiester
05-08-2006, 06:09 PM
i think eddie will be in the film but Venom wont not in this one,

Blackmouf2002
05-08-2006, 08:30 PM
I like the BLACK suit. Yes, lie sony said the BLACK suit. Even though its not the original were used to, some manips and pics have changed my mind and made me think that the suit can look good.

Venom'sDad
05-08-2006, 09:14 PM
:) Topher Grace is not Eddie Brock/Venom.... I guaranty.

spideyboy_1111
05-08-2006, 09:21 PM
actually i can guarantee from SEVERAL sources venom is indeed in this movie.. and topher is definately eddie brock... so stop living in denile...

Spider-Man™
05-08-2006, 09:27 PM
:) Topher Grace is not Eddie Brock/Venom.... I guaranty.

I agree with you. :spidey: :up:

Spider-Man™
05-08-2006, 09:28 PM
actually i can guarantee from SEVERAL sources venom is indeed in this movie.. and topher is definately eddie brock... so stop living in denile...

The only guarantee we can get is Sony or Raimi actually confirming Venom is in the movie. Till then, saying he will be Venom means nothing.

spideyboy_1111
05-08-2006, 09:54 PM
well then don't get your hopes up... because venom not being in it is slim to none... its pretty much been let out of the bag here in LA for several months...

Ongie
05-08-2006, 11:21 PM
In regards to the topic of the thread...
I absolutely love the black suit as it's seen on the official site.
It wouldn't make sense for the symbiote to change the texture of Spidey's suit... and suddenly grow a big, white spider.
It makes more sense that it modifies the existing suit.
Well-played, Mr. Raimi. Well-played.

Spidey-Sean
05-08-2006, 11:32 PM
I still hope the spider on the front is white. Can't really tell from the official pick if it's even there.

Spider-Girl™
05-09-2006, 12:44 AM
well then don't get your hopes up... because venom not being in it is slim to none... its pretty much been let out of the bag here in LA for several months...

care to elaborate?

Weapon M
05-09-2006, 01:03 AM
Why would they wanna give away such a vital part of the movie early on.

The symbiote suit looks nothing like that, I know it may have changed but that pic is the regular spidey suit just in black and white.

Why would the symbiote suit have web lines?

If sony wanted us to know that it was the black suit why didnt they show us a pic that we know IS the black suit, why make us wonder?



I dont know what to think yet.... But all I know is that it should look more like the prototypical black and white suit.. cause it willll be reflecting the Venom look.. Now I will be mad if Venom has webbing on his costume....

gamemiester
05-09-2006, 06:59 AM
If venom had webbing it would suck.

Im not really sure who Topher will be he does seem a little small for Eddie.

CrashNburn
05-09-2006, 07:18 AM
If venom had webbing it would suck.

Im not really sure who Topher will be he does seem a little small for Eddie.

i agree that it would suck. they could use topher as eddie and just make him bigger when he's venom and i would be happy. isnt the eddie brock(ultimate spiderman) small?

gamemiester
05-09-2006, 07:21 AM
Yeah he is, but him being bigger would be better.

If you forget Acting Skills Brock Lesnar looks like him, but god help us if he was in it.

CrashNburn
05-09-2006, 07:25 AM
Yeah he is, but him being bigger would be better.

If you forget Acting Skills Brock Lesnar looks like him, but god help us if he was in it.

i definitely thought that brock lesnar was great look-wise but the movie would be in big trouble as far as the acting department. it depends on what you want in a movie i guess.

gamemiester
05-09-2006, 07:33 AM
Agreed and Brock looks too old and maybe a bit to big when comparing him to toby

CrashNburn
05-09-2006, 09:21 AM
Agreed and Brock looks too old and maybe a bit to big when comparing him to toby

ABSOLUTELY!:spidey::eek:

gamemiester
05-09-2006, 09:22 AM
yeah it would like david and goliath

chosen1
05-09-2006, 10:21 AM
I THINK ITS FAIR TO SAY THAT AT THIS POINT THERE ARE NO ABSOLUTES AND NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING I'M NOT COMING BACK TO THESE BOARDS (SPIDERMAN BOARDS) UNTIL 2007.

GOD BLESS YA SEE YA AT THE THEATRE :up:

jbone55
05-09-2006, 10:57 AM
That's what it's supposed to be. Venom is huge and spidey is spidey. I said Lesner since I first seen dude on wrestling and this was before any Spidey movies came out.

He could be a great Venom. He doesn't need to have great acting parts, just be a bully and a reporter.

gamemiester
05-09-2006, 11:35 AM
i still needs some acting skills as he will be a main character.

Chris Wallace
05-10-2006, 11:28 AM
I dont know what to think yet.... But all I know is that it should look more like the prototypical black and white suit.. cause it willll be reflecting the Venom look.. Now I will be mad if Venom has webbing on his costume....
I think that if it is in fact the symbiote we're seeing, then it has covered Spidey's costume. It's not a costume by itself. So Venom would probably look more like the Ultimate version.

faceplant
05-10-2006, 03:08 PM
This is a stupid quesion that I should not even bother asking because you guys might have me hung, but do you think maybe since the only pics of spidey we've seen so far on set are in his red/blue costume that instead of making a whole new set of black suits, they might digitally turn the suit black in post production...I mean it is basically the same suit, just different colors, it probably wouldn't be that difficult to do?

Cmill216
05-10-2006, 03:14 PM
This is a stupid quesion that I should not even bother asking because you guys might have me hung, but do you think maybe since the only pics of spidey we've seen so far on set are in his red/blue costume that instead of making a whole new set of black suits, they might digitally turn the suit black in post production...I mean it is basically the same suit, just different colors, it probably wouldn't be that difficult to do?

I think you know my answer...;)

faceplant
05-10-2006, 03:16 PM
I think you know my answer...;)

I know, I'm just bored and exhausted from work so I'm just throuwing things out there.

Cmill216
05-10-2006, 03:17 PM
They are gonna keep the black suit as hidden as possible (i.e. we're not going to see random set pics of it).

Chris Wallace
05-10-2006, 04:08 PM
This is a stupid quesion that I should not even bother asking because you guys might have me hung, but do you think maybe since the only pics of spidey we've seen so far on set are in his red/blue costume that instead of making a whole new set of black suits, they might digitally turn the suit black in post production...I mean it is basically the same suit, just different colors, it probably wouldn't be that difficult to do?
Unlikely.:spidey:

Chris Wallace
05-10-2006, 04:42 PM
They are gonna keep the black suit as hidden as possible (i.e. we're not going to see random set pics of it).
That sounds more plausible. Plus, like I've said in another thread, I don't expect it to appear until the 3rd act anyway.

Cmill216
05-10-2006, 04:46 PM
That sounds more plausible. Plus, like I've said in another thread, I don't expect it to appear until the 3rd act anyway.

If we're talking about the third act in a three act story, I doubt that. It'll likely appear at the beginning of the second act.

Unleashed
05-10-2006, 05:13 PM
I'm hoping the suit shanges throughout the movie

SpiderJinx
05-17-2006, 08:39 AM
Hi, this is my first time posting on here. I've come up with a theory regarding the black suit. I know everyone is assuming that that it is the symbiote that eventually becomes Venom. However I think the clues have been staring us in the face.

Sorry if this has been mention already.

Here goes, perhaps the black suit is a mark of respect for a character that is going to die. Hence it looking like the classic red and blue. I'm thinking Gwen Stacey is the character that will die and Goblin 2 could the cause of that. Look at Spidey's posture in the picture it is as if he is looking forlorn or mourning probably at his inability to save one of his loves from death.

I know we would all love to see Venom, however I think this unlikely as Sam Raimi is too much of a purist fan.

Just my take, apologies if this has already been mentioned.

Cmill216
05-17-2006, 08:41 AM
Hi, this is my first time posting on here. I've come up with a theory regarding the black suit. I know everyone is assuming that that it is the symbiote that eventually becomes Venom. However I think the clues have been staring us in the face.

Sorry if this has been mention already.

Here goes, perhaps the black suit is a mark of respect for a character that is going to die. Hence it looking like the classic red and blue. I'm thinking Gwen Stacey is the character that will die and Goblin 2 could the cause of that. Look at Spidey's posture in the picture it is as if he is looking forlorn or mourning probably at his inability to save one of his loves from death.

I know we would all love to see Venom, however I think this unlikely as Sam Raimi is too much of a purist fan.

Just my take, apologies if this has already been mentioned.

Gwen Stacy won't die. Gwen Stacy won't die. Gwen Stacy won't die.

Brian Braddock
05-17-2006, 10:02 AM
Gwen Stacy won't die. Gwen Stacy won't die. Gwen Stacy won't die.


I don't think she will - they're only just establishing her. To kill her off so soon wouldnt have that much impact, and to me doesnt make sense at all.

My bet is on Mary Jane. Raimi's already kinda reversed the 2 characters so it would nt surprise mr if MJ bit the big one.

Lets not forget that when Venom 1st appearedhe had a stalking thind going on for MJ.

Dunst has done 2 Spidey films already and maybe the feeling is that they want a fresh love interest for Pete.

Cmill216
05-17-2006, 10:06 AM
I don't think she will

Well, it's not really about what anybody thinks, it's about fact: The Hollywood Reporter was told by Sony that the character would survive. End of story.

CrypticOne
05-17-2006, 10:16 AM
My opinion? It's gonna be bad a**!!! I can't wait to see Spidey whoopin' Sandmans a** in it. I can't wait.

Chris Wallace
05-17-2006, 10:32 AM
I don't think she will - they're only just establishing her. To kill her off so soon wouldnt have that much impact, and to me doesnt make sense at all.

My bet is on Mary Jane. Raimi's already kinda reversed the 2 characters so it would nt surprise mr if MJ bit the big one.

Lets not forget that when Venom 1st appearedhe had a stalking thind going on for MJ.

Dunst has done 2 Spidey films already and maybe the feeling is that they want a fresh love interest for Pete.
Yeah, that's what theey're gonna do. Kill off Mary Jane after building the first two movies around her & Peter's relationship. That makes total sense.

Brian Braddock
05-17-2006, 10:39 AM
Yeah, that's what theey're gonna do. Kill off Mary Jane after building the first two movies around her & Peter's relationship. That makes total sense.

I guess we'll have to see what happens then.

Chris Wallace
05-17-2006, 11:12 AM
People Have Been Predicting Her Demise Since They Saw The Goblin Drop Her In The Trailer For The First One.

Spidey_Zombie
05-17-2006, 11:25 AM
I wish it were more in sync with the comic/animated version costume... But that's just me.

CrypticOne
05-17-2006, 11:34 AM
Why is there a not sure one? People, it's either one or the other. And doesn't like the black Spidey-suit? People, give me some good reasons why you do not want this suit in?

Chris Wallace
05-17-2006, 11:40 AM
Because They Hate That It's Not The Black & White Number That They've Been Waiting To See Since The 90's Cartoon Went Off The Air.

Chris Wallace
05-17-2006, 11:42 AM
Hi, this is my first time posting on here. I've come up with a theory regarding the black suit. I know everyone is assuming that that it is the symbiote that eventually becomes Venom. However I think the clues have been staring us in the face.

Sorry if this has been mention already.

Here goes, perhaps the black suit is a mark of respect for a character that is going to die. Hence it looking like the classic red and blue. I'm thinking Gwen Stacey is the character that will die and Goblin 2 could the cause of that. Look at Spidey's posture in the picture it is as if he is looking forlorn or mourning probably at his inability to save one of his loves from death.

I know we would all love to see Venom, however I think this unlikely as Sam Raimi is too much of a purist fan.

Just my take, apologies if this has already been mentioned.All of that is a stretch & here's why; By your logic, he should've been wearing black from the get-go because he was in mourning when he first became Spider-Man; everything he's done behind that mask has been in honor of Uncle Ben.
Secondly, if he were that broken up over his inability to save someone he wouldn't CHANGE the costume; he'd toss it.

Spidey_Zombie
06-27-2006, 05:13 AM
Judging from the trailer, it doesn't look like this will be the exact same Symbiote costume from the comics... Just a blackish goo that covers the original costume... Though this is still speculation, this is what I see in the teaser... :(


Anyways all discussion on the Symbiote can be posted here i guess... :spidey:

webhead731
06-27-2006, 05:17 AM
Symbiote makes the movie darker!:eek:

It freakin' rules!:up:

Goran
06-27-2006, 05:17 AM
I like how the symbiote grabs his hand.... or "melts" over his red costume... just perfect... or when he's ripping it off his back.... fantastic!!!!!!!

webhead731
06-27-2006, 05:19 AM
Just like the Animated Series in the church part of the trailer!:eek:

Spidey_Zombie
06-27-2006, 05:20 AM
That most likey means the symbiote won't be able to transform into outer clothing etc... Like in TAS or Comics. :( :spidey:

The Amazing Lee
06-27-2006, 05:20 AM
To be honest....I don't expect the comic version. heck, As long as the movie turns out to be good and doesn't insult the comics in any way (Like I heard X3 did) then I'm happy. :)

i have faith in Sam.

webhead731
06-27-2006, 05:22 AM
We all should have faith in Sam. Look how he's doing so far!

Spidey_Zombie
06-27-2006, 05:23 AM
We all should have faith in Sam. Look how he's doing so far!
True... Here's hoping. *cheers*

DESTAANY
06-27-2006, 05:24 AM
The last scene reminds me of TAS so much

AlteredEgo
06-27-2006, 05:25 AM
i said this in another thread but from what i saw i kinda thought that it looked like when he was ripping the suit off it wasnt coming off too easy. like it was "replicating" or whatever, over where he was trying to rip it off. just thought that would be an interesting sight. :o

The Amazing Lee
06-27-2006, 05:27 AM
yeah that's cool. :D

Ongie
06-27-2006, 05:53 AM
I'm really digging this approach... The trailer looks heavily influenced by the Animated Series... and that's a very, very, very good thing in the case of the Venom saga.

webhead731
06-27-2006, 05:54 AM
I know!!!!:D

klown23
06-27-2006, 08:03 AM
the way the symbiote grabs peter's hand is amazing... For the black costume, I think it's gotta make sense... Shape shifting would be bad I guess, sounds too much like FF4 or kid's movie. Its must make sense for non-fan viewers too.

SBrooks1
06-27-2006, 08:51 AM
I'm really digging this approach... The trailer looks heavily influenced by the Animated Series... and that's a very, very, very good thing in the case of the Venom saga.

Agreed 110%!!! :up:

"_____"
06-27-2006, 09:24 AM
after seeing that trailer i dont give a sh_T what the costume looks like because that trailer gave me pure joy and im fine with just a black suit...this might be the best comic book film ever

The Hurricane
06-27-2006, 09:26 AM
I think it looks great. I want a symbiot for christmas ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/shenron84/Symbiote.jpg

nolan's roll'n
06-27-2006, 09:29 AM
I think it looks great. I want a symbiot for christmas ;)

LOL

nolan's roll'n
06-27-2006, 09:30 AM
Agreed 110%!!! :up:

Same here.

Goran
06-27-2006, 09:36 AM
I think it looks great. I want a symbiot for christmas ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/shenron84/Symbiote.jpg

Yeah me too :D

LightningSpidey
06-27-2006, 10:40 AM
I think it looks great. I want a symbiot for christmas ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/shenron84/Symbiote.jpg


They may be on the shelves by christmas... Imagine a small bottle of black goo. Reminds me of the ninja turtle ooze from back in the early 90's... lol.

SBrooks1
06-27-2006, 10:42 AM
They may be on the shelves by christmas... Imagine a small bottle of black goo. Reminds me of the ninja turtle ooze from back in the early 90's... lol.

I would cover my naked body in it and take pictures for all to see!!! :eek:



....er maybe not :o

Gogo Bananas
06-27-2006, 11:22 AM
It'll evolve - and I love how much it looks like really crude, chunky oil.

SBrooks1
06-27-2006, 11:27 AM
It'll evolve - and I love how much it looks like really crude, chunky oil.

Yeah, looks really nasty :up:

Infinity9999x
06-27-2006, 11:40 AM
You know, I'm surprised how much the movie seems to be taking from the cartoon. The shot of it going up spidey's arm is almost the same, and then the ending shot in the trailer of him looking surprised infront of a skyskraper is almsot exactally the same as the cartoon also.

Boom
06-27-2006, 11:45 AM
I think the symbiote suit is brushed up with special effects. In the set photos, the suit was a flat black. In this trailer, it has a shine to it, particularly the webbing.

-Knightfall-
06-27-2006, 02:54 PM
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i290/the_ultimate_evil_2000/1-1.jpg

Does anyone else notice how the symbiote costume looks discolored or lighter on his back and below his waist? I imagine there must be some significance to this.

Gogo Bananas
06-27-2006, 03:30 PM
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i290/the_ultimate_evil_2000/1-1.jpg

Does anyone else notice how the symbiote costume looks discolored or lighter on his back and below his waist? I imagine there must be some significance to this.

I think that's just backwash from the lighting.

CrypticOne
06-27-2006, 03:34 PM
Symbiote makes the movie darker!:eek:

It freakin' rules!:up:

I like when movies get darker! Symbiote=Greatness. :spidey:

Spidey-Sean
06-27-2006, 03:35 PM
Did anyone see the White Spider on spidey's outfit when he's swinging towards the camera underground?

CrypticOne
06-27-2006, 03:38 PM
Did anyone see the White Spider on spidey's outfit when he's swinging towards the camera underground?

No, I didn't catch that.

Gogo Bananas
06-27-2006, 03:39 PM
Yeah, that spider in that frame looks pretty darn big and pretty darn white.
It maybe the symbiote does affect his regular costume through the movie, making it basically evolve into the usual Venom costume.

XSpidercideX
06-27-2006, 03:52 PM
That would be sweet, maybe it slowly changes his costume into the Black costume from the comics, then he finally gets rid of it, and when its on Brock it becomes full fledged Venom. That would be a great way to build it up!

CrypticOne
06-27-2006, 04:08 PM
That would be sweet, maybe it slowly changes his costume into the Black costume from the comics, then he finally gets rid of it, and when its on Brock it becomes full fledged Venom. That would be a great way to build it up!

Good idea, I like it.

Sabretooth
06-27-2006, 04:10 PM
I didn't like the look of the symbiote when I saw the saw the very first photo of it with Spidey crouching on that building. But it's grown on me and now I think it looks kickass.:up:

Gogo Bananas
06-27-2006, 06:02 PM
What I'd really like about the symbiote, is hopefully they'll finally able to do a credible eyes change shape/size to convey emotion with it.

bassbot
06-28-2006, 01:41 AM
the black costume looks awesome. the trailer indicates petey's got some serious identity issues going. how much it'll be in the film. well, i'm willing to let Sam's storytelling tell the tale, and wait for that. i'd hope that neither mj or gwen die in 3, but if one does, i guess i'd think it could be either. they could write the story either way. depends on how far they take the characters and develop the relationship in the one movie.
I can't wait to see how spiderman can hope to take sandman on.

hpwiz89
06-28-2006, 01:46 AM
In the first pic we got for the black suit he looked coool but now that I saw the black suit in action in the teaser it looks 100 times better than I first thought it would look like in action.

dark_b
06-28-2006, 01:48 AM
i just f....ing love the texture on the suit. it is a little 3d so it stands out.
amazing.
http://www.justjared.com/pictures/2006/06/spider_man_3_trailer_screencaps/spider-man-3-trailer-screencaps02.jpg

Maxime
06-28-2006, 02:11 AM
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm1.jpg
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm2.jpg
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm3.jpg
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm5.jpg
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm6.jpg
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm7.jpg
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm8.jpg

Cinemaman
06-28-2006, 02:14 AM
When I saw 1st pic of Spidey in the black suit, I had worries and was a bit disappointed.

But when I watched teaser, I have aready realized that this suit is perfect, incredible, a bit creepy and excellent :up:

webhead731
06-28-2006, 02:16 AM
I was a little ticked at first when I saw tthe poster. But I still loved it. Later the suit grew on me.

The teaser makes the suit...Wow.:up:

Shadow_Knight
06-28-2006, 02:19 AM
I think the suit kicks ass major ass by the way nice pics.

Red
06-28-2006, 02:29 AM
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm7.jpg



He doesn't **** the webs out his wrist. I guess this means Venom won't even have the ability to shot webs :down

dark_b
06-28-2006, 02:33 AM
He doesn't **** the webs out his wrist. I guess this means Venom won't even have the ability to shot webs :downhe will not have webs ,he will not climb on the walls. he will not have teh same powers that spidey has.
didnt you saw the new spoilers? :rolleyes:

Maxime
06-28-2006, 02:34 AM
He doesn't **** the webs out his wrist. I guess this means Venom won't even have the ability to shot webs :down

What are you talking about. :confused:

TheVileOne
06-28-2006, 02:51 AM
He doesn't **** the webs out his wrist. I guess this means Venom won't even have the ability to shot webs :down

This is how trivial the complaints are.

The movies already established that Peter shoots webbing out of his wrists and he does not have MECHANICAL WEBSHOOTERS.

Kasey Again
06-28-2006, 04:07 AM
I kinda wish it were just a smooth glossy black. Or just black and scaley (basically exactly what it is, sans the webbing) BUT I still think it looks great so I'm not complaining.

Can't have everything, but what we got (I think) is sweet.

The Kid
06-28-2006, 05:33 AM
OK I just read the Q&A again and god...it's prettymuch been confirmed that the symbiote is an alien lifeform from an asteroid.

that's it.

I'm through.

All i ever wanted from these films was spider-man, webshooters and all, but that would be too unrealistic for their version... ok well, I'm done. I tried to reason with myself that an alien was too far-out there a concept to work, and that the symbiote was a side effect of his unnatural genetic mutation so it'd make some sense and all in this more grounded version of spidey, but it's been made completely impossible now with what i'm seeing in the trailer of a black oozy creature crawling up pete's bed just like in the q&a. So be it. I'll catch this on video or if someone sells it on the subway. this whole new story of spidey just isn't for me, enough to want to see at the movies.
enjoy yourself if you can... it's just a fantasy story yunno.... I'm not saying you should join me in jumping off the wagon. Personally, I just can't be on it anymore after all of the changes and silly stuff allowed to happen...

My theory is no more and it kills me...aagh... I just lost a lot of hype exp. points now...

Spidey_Zombie
06-28-2006, 05:36 AM
OK I just read the Q&A again and god...it's prettymuch been confirmed that the symbiote is an alien lifeform from an asteroid.

that's it.

I'm through.

All i ever wanted from these films was spider-man, webshooters and all, but that would be too unrealistic for their version... ok well, I'm done. I tried to reason with myself that an alien was too far-out there a concept to work, and that the symbiote was a side effect of his unnatural genetic mutation so it'd make some sense and all in this more grounded version of spidey, but it's been made completely impossible now with what i'm seeing in the trailer of a black oozy creature crawling up pete's bed just like in the q&a. So be it. I'll catch this on video or if someone sells it on the subway. this whole new story of spidey just isn't for me, enough to want to see at the movies.

enjoy yourself if you can... it's just a fantasy story yunno.... I'm not saying you should join me in jumping off the wagon. Personally, I just can't be on it anymore after all of the changes and silly stuff allowed to happen...

My theory is no more... I just lost a lot of hype now...
Hmmm so you saw the first two Spider-man movies for realism? What's real about a man shooting organic webbing, and jumping from building to building? :spidey:

The Kid
06-28-2006, 05:46 AM
No, when did I say that?

I actually expected much less realism, which is what we are getting now but didn't get for parts 1 and 2 because raimi tried to ground spidey in a more realistic way I was never favorable with, and now he's throwing that idea out the window with all the new stuff he's introducing. So it's giving me a wtf moment here. I don't want to believe raimi's a hypocrite, but it's becoming much harder the more we see of this new film.

dark_b
06-28-2006, 05:50 AM
thats why i dont like sandman. he is to unrealistic.

The Kid
06-28-2006, 05:56 AM
Sandman's nothing compared to living, thinking, ooze from planet mars that turns you evil.

dark_b
06-28-2006, 05:59 AM
Sandman's nothing compared to living, thinking, ooze from planet mars that turns you evil.well it is something from space.

i guess to me a man out of sand is more funny than a ooze from space that gives your more power.

Barak
06-28-2006, 06:55 AM
OK I just read the Q&A again and god...it's prettymuch been confirmed that the symbiote is an alien lifeform from an asteroid.

that's it.

I'm through.

All i ever wanted from these films was spider-man, webshooters and all, but that would be too unrealistic for their version... ok well, I'm done. I tried to reason with myself that an alien was too far-out there a concept to work, and that the symbiote was a side effect of his unnatural genetic mutation so it'd make some sense and all in this more grounded version of spidey, but it's been made completely impossible now with what i'm seeing in the trailer of a black oozy creature crawling up pete's bed just like in the q&a. So be it. I'll catch this on video or if someone sells it on the subway. this whole new story of spidey just isn't for me, enough to want to see at the movies.
enjoy yourself if you can... it's just a fantasy story yunno.... I'm not saying you should join me in jumping off the wagon. Personally, I just can't be on it anymore after all of the changes and silly stuff allowed to happen...

My theory is no more and it kills me...aagh... I just lost a lot of hype exp. points now...

Sweet more chairs in the theatre for us!

Symbiote rocks! It makes logical sense that it would take the shape of the suit and make tiny alterations, to me at least. I'm thinking that when we see Venom at the end of the movie though it'll obviously be what we are used to seeing the Venom suit as.

The Kid
06-28-2006, 07:14 AM
chairs? I'm only one person.

I won't ask why it makes logical sense. I'll just go grab something to eat since i'm hungry.

Chris Wallace
06-28-2006, 09:20 AM
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm1.jpg
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm2.jpg
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm3.jpg
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm5.jpg
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm6.jpg
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm7.jpg
http://www.tiiite.com/pics/sm8.jpg
Sweet. Beyond sweet.

Hotwire
06-28-2006, 09:50 AM
I kinda wish it were just a smooth glossy black. Or just black and scaley (basically exactly what it is, sans the webbing) BUT I still think it looks great so I'm not complaining.

Can't have everything, but what we got (I think) is sweet.

If it were smooth and glossy, it would make Spidey look like a latex-love'n S&M slave.

Hotwire
06-28-2006, 10:02 AM
he will not have webs ,he will not climb on the walls. he will not have teh same powers that spidey has.
didnt you saw the new spoilers? :rolleyes:

What spoilers are you talking about? And what thread could I find them on?

Nathan
06-28-2006, 10:10 AM
I admit, the suit looked great in the Teaser, but I'm still disappointed that they didn't use the original black suit.

Chris Wallace
06-28-2006, 10:31 AM
If it were smooth and glossy, it would make Spidey look like a latex-love'n S&M slave.
Yup.:spidey:

Brian Braddock
06-28-2006, 10:50 AM
If it were smooth and glossy, it would make Spidey look like a latex-love'n S&M slave.


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/d6_1_b.jpg



:D

The Amazing Lee
06-28-2006, 10:52 AM
It's WKD in Human form! :eek:

Hafssól
06-28-2006, 10:53 AM
someone should photoshop that.

Chris Wallace
06-28-2006, 11:09 AM
It's WKD in Human form! :eek:
WKD?:confused:

Maximum Carnage
06-28-2006, 11:20 AM
Is it confirmed that those pics posted above .. could possibly be inside a church?

Anyway .. the suit looks perfect.

Nathan
06-28-2006, 11:25 AM
Well there's a giant bell in one picture. What do you think?

BHD
06-28-2006, 11:27 AM
This is how trivial the complaints are.

The movies already established that Peter shoots webbing out of his wrists and he does not have MECHANICAL WEBSHOOTERS.

i think he means out of the top of his wrists like the symbiote comics, and if he cant do that, it would probably mean venom cant shoot webs

Hafssól
06-28-2006, 11:28 AM
venom should shoot webs. no, he must.

Chris Wallace
06-28-2006, 11:28 AM
How long before naysayers start saying it's the same church they used in "Batman"?

Chris Wallace
06-28-2006, 11:29 AM
i think he means out of the top of his wrists like the symbiote comics, and if he cant do that, it would probably mean venom cant shoot webs
I deemed it unlikely from the getgo; what's the point in the symbiote giving him something he already has?

Visionary
06-28-2006, 11:30 AM
Great, so most of you realized that you spent over 230 pages and over a year of ******in' for nothing...:confused:

Nathan
06-28-2006, 11:31 AM
i think he means out of the top of his wrists like the symbiote comics, and if he cant do that, it would probably mean venom cant shoot webs

Well, why would he shoot webbing from the top of his hands? It's not like his organics would disappear just because he wears the symbiote.

And if anything at all, it would now make even more sense that Venom would be able to shoot webbing. Because the Symbiote would copy the ability from Spidey being attached to his genes and all.

Chris Wallace
06-28-2006, 11:42 AM
We're speculating way too much way too early; we don't know what the symbiote is going to be nor what its abilities will be. That said, Nathan, I will agree that your theory makes sense.

Visionary
06-28-2006, 11:45 AM
I just had a brilliant idea, pay attention, this doesn't happen too often.

Wouldn't it be cool if the symbiote not only mimic Peter's webbing ability, but it literally took it from him, as somewhat of a trophy. Leaving Peter with all of his powers except his organics. And Peter saying that "if he had left the symbiote on any longer, it would have taking all of his powers like a parasite." Leaving room to finally make his mechanical webshooters. And passing his organics over to Venom.

Have you words to say?

Flash Fearless
06-28-2006, 11:45 AM
This isn't an opinion on the black suit, so I'm not posting it in the opinion thread.

I just watching the trailer and there's a shot of Spider-Man swinging at the camera right after the clip of Harry and MJ. It's a fast shot, with something collapsing in the background.

Maybe it's just the way the light reflects off of his suit, but the spider symbol on his chest seems to be white. It looks more like the black suit from the comics.

maninthechair
06-28-2006, 11:47 AM
I think that's just the lighting. Sorry

Cmill216
06-28-2006, 11:51 AM
This isn't an opinion on the black suit, so I'm not posting it in the opinion thread.

I just watching the trailer and there's a shot of Spider-Man swinging at the camera right after the clip of Harry and MJ. It's a fast shot, with something collapsing in the background.

Maybe it's just the way the light reflects off of his suit, but the spider symbol on his chest seems to be white. It looks more like the black suit from the comics.

:D :D :D

The Kid
06-28-2006, 11:51 AM
yep, lighting, cgi lighting.

Flash Fearless
06-28-2006, 11:52 AM
That's what I figured. It still looks pretty cool.

Cinemaman
06-28-2006, 11:55 AM
I hope Venom will look way too different from Black Spidey. He will be bigger, creepy and very sinister.

theShape
06-28-2006, 11:58 AM
not only does the black suit look great, but the symbiote itself looks really cool and realistic. i love itttttt.

Chris Wallace
06-28-2006, 12:01 PM
I just had a brilliant idea, pay attention, this doesn't happen too often.

Wouldn't it be cool if the symbiote not only mimic Peter's webbing ability, but it literally took it from him, as somewhat of a trophy. Leaving Peter with all of his powers except his organics. And Peter saying that "if he had left the symbiote on any longer, it would have taking all of his powers like a parasite." Leaving room to finally make his mechanical webshooters. And passing his organics over to Venom.

Have you words to say?
I got one: No.

theShape
06-28-2006, 12:02 PM
I got one: No.

agreed.

Ultra-Spidey
06-28-2006, 12:03 PM
I admit, the suit looked great in the Teaser, but I'm still disappointed that they didn't use the original black suit.

I agree also, the suit does look good but it would've been EVEN BETTER if the original black suit was used. With the exception of the spider emblem, which looks great by the way, I can't shake the idea that this is just the same red/blue suit but colored all black.

With a movie that is this big in scale/budget i'd think that they could have given us something a little different instead of taking the classic red/blue suit and just making it black.

I mean looking at the comic versions, the 2 suits by contrast are totally different from one another. Then comparing the movie suits the only thing that pretty much seperates them is the color.

I don't know..... I just absolutely loved how the original reb/blue Spidey suit stuck sooo close to the comics I just as much hoped that the Black suit would do the same.....ah well. But I really did dig how that last bit of the teaser was straight out of the animated series, from the Venom saga. Hanging upside-down from a building in the Black Suit, AWESOME!!!!!

Daisy
06-28-2006, 12:03 PM
I have to admit, I like it more 'in action' than I did in the still photo.

I like how the webbing and spider logo reflect so they look white. I think it's an excellent interpretation.

Daisy
06-28-2006, 12:05 PM
I just had a brilliant idea, pay attention, this doesn't happen too often.

Wouldn't it be cool if the symbiote not only mimic Peter's webbing ability, but it literally took it from him, as somewhat of a trophy. Leaving Peter with all of his powers except his organics. And Peter saying that "if he had left the symbiote on any longer, it would have taking all of his powers like a parasite." Leaving room to finally make his mechanical webshooters. And passing his organics over to Venom.

Have you words to say?

You are brilliant!

Yes, I mean that sincerely. :)