Prince of Persia:The Sands of Time

[Big Daddy]

yeah they were assassins in the middle east (the actual word is hashashine because they smoked hashish after their kills)

[DW4]

I too am hoping for a sequel, hope the domestic numbers get a little better so we can get one. This was too fun of an adventure film, I was definitely surprised at how much I enjoyed it.

The only people I see not liking this a lot are people who follow the games like it's a religion or something.

[Sam Fisher]

The only people I see not liking this a lot are people who follow the games like it's a religion or something.

That's not true at all.


I love the game, but I went in knowing the movie would be different, and I still came out disapointed.

[Pablo Parker]

I know nothing about the games and didn´t like it either.

[terry78]

They basically merged the very first PoP game that Mechner made along with the Sands of Time. No supernatural creatures, but a supernatural artifact.

[RachelDawes]

yeah they were assassins in the middle east (the actual word is hashashine because they smoked hashish after their kills)

I've heard of the hashashin but was confused because they were called hassansins in the movie. That, and the hashashin belong to medieval Persian history and I thought the movie was set in ancient times.

I too am hoping for a sequel, hope the domestic numbers get a little better so we can get one. This was too fun of an adventure film, I was definitely surprised at how much I enjoyed it.

The only people I see not liking this a lot are people who follow the games like it's a religion or something.

I've never played the game and I didn't like the movie all that much.

[Asteroid-Man]

I've heard of the hashashin but was confused because they were called hassansins in the movie. That, and the hashashin belong to medieval Persian history and I thought the movie was set in ancient times.
See the thing I liked about this movie was that the mythological and historical references were all over the place (and this was intentional) as it gave insight from all over the place.

For example: The dome/arched architecture, the arab/neo-farsi writing, the clothing, the sword shapes, the background language and the hassanssins would suggest it was medieval Persia.

The Cuneiform, the straight edge architecture, some of the clothing, the arrows, the map at the beginning, the names, the fact that Persians were in power, multiple gods, commonality of dervishes... these all suggest it was Pre-Islam/Ancient Persia.

I really enjoyed how they did that because it didn't necessarily confine the film to one moment in history and it allowed liberty to try and have as many references as possible without trying to pin the story on one period in time and have it go way off from the actual events (aka 300... dear lord. :doh:). The same things done in the game. The best use of this was in Prince of Persia 2008 where the music, the architecture, the clothing and the writing was seamlessly mixing medieval Persia with Ancient Persia.

[Asteroid-Man]

They basically merged the very first PoP game that Mechner made along with the Sands of Time. No supernatural creatures, but a supernatural artifact.
I think it a smart move, because (if they go this route...) the film was left open for a sequel with the sand monsters and the Dahaka as the Sands were released and the Prince cheated his fate.

[matrix_ghost]

I've never played the game and I didn't like the movie all that much.

Ditto.


Also based on just how many BO debates we've had on the hype , what chances do you guys think a PoP sequel has ?
The movie is performing well overseas , though it's a question of whether it can survive once the world cup begins.
And overseas success simply means the the budget of a movie can be made back but the domestic numbers are deciding factor if they wanna continue with a sequel.

Even if sites like BOMOJO are saying that PoP costs 200 million , i simply don't buy that because the movie doesn't have the visuals nor the the star do justify a 200 million budget . 150 million ( which is what thenumbers.com is reporting) seems to be right.
If PoP can manage to hit that mark ( and also have a pretty goon run in overseas markets) i think we might see a sequel. HOwever if this movie can't even go beyond 100-120 million domestic, forget it.

[matrix_ghost]

Disney dumped Narnia when it didn't preform to expectations. I doubt they will give POP the same chance.


Difference is that Bruckheimer wasn't involved with Narnia but with PoP. And Bruckheimer has a long history of succesful flicks with Disney. IMO it's he who shall decide if PoP will continue .

Not to mention it was Disney's own stupidity that cause the 2nd Narnia to bomb by opening it in the summer. Narnia is a December flick and that is definately something that Fox realises.

[omid17]

well this movie didn't really deserve to make a ton of cheese, it's not even all that good plus the marketing they did was ****ing horrible, notice how all tv spots were just filled with humor.

Next approach for the sequel if it happens, little less on the humor, more action with better editing( i liked the first battle we got in the beginning)

[dark_b]

i think humor is the reason next to the big scope that people like it.

masses want to have fun and laugh. thats why TF and TF2 were also popular next to robots kicking ass.

[dark_b]

i think humor is the reason next to the big scope that people like it.

masses want to have fun and laugh. thats why TF and TF2 were also popular next to robots kicking ass.

[darkslayer101]

I too am hoping for a sequel, hope the domestic numbers get a little better so we can get one. This was too fun of an adventure film, I was definitely surprised at how much I enjoyed it.

The only people I see not liking this a lot are people who follow the games like it's a religion or something.
i am a big fan of the pop video game which had the best plot in the video game history but i could see why the game plot wouldnt fit in an movie.. and hollywood did a great job making a more family fued related plot and still kept the game elements...(still could have improved the parkour and fighting editing)

[darkslayer101]

did anyone catch when Tamina said that using the Sand glass to reverse time is forbidden...
this sure means if there is a sequel, Dahaka has to be chasing Dastan...

[baerrtt]

Difference is that Bruckheimer wasn't involved with Narnia but with PoP. And Bruckheimer has a long history of succesful flicks with Disney. IMO it's he who shall decide if PoP will continue .

Not to mention it was Disney's own stupidity that cause the 2nd Narnia to bomb by opening it in the summer. Narnia is a December flick and that is definately something that Fox realises.

Disney puts up the money. They're the financiers and irrespective of Jerry's past rep I sincerely doubt he can basically say to his employers 'Right we're making another one' in light of the domestic numbers.

[Silver Knight]

did anyone catch when Tamina said that using the Sand glass to reverse time is forbidden...
this sure means if there is a sequel, Dahaka has to be chasing Dastan...

I dont think so.

[darkslayer101]

I dont think so.
it was in the tent scene where Dastan tells the "tiger story"

[That-Guy]

I enjoyed this movie. I hope it makes some more money, because I'd love to see a sequel, though it doesn't look like that will happen based on opening weekend in the States (though international numbers were strong). I think that analysts who said that the marketing wasn't good hit the nail on the head there... I think too much of the initial trailer focused on Gemma's monotone "you must take the dagger to the super secret Guardian temple and order cheese fries before we all die blah, blah, blah" speech (which wasn't even used in the movie, thank God). Other than that, all the trailers really showed was Jake jumping a lot. It still made me want to see the film, but I can see how it could merit a "meh" reaction from some people.

But regardless, I did enjoy the movie, particularly the interaction and chemistry between the two leads. Jake and Gemma make a great action duo, and throwing in Alfred Molina added a lot of fun to the story. However, Kingsley was a bit disappointing because A. did they seriously think we wouldn't know he was the bad guy all along? and B. his character and performance were rather dull. But at the end of the day, when it comes to action/adventure movies, I'd rather have a hero I want to root for time and time again than a great villain that I know won't make it to Part 2.

7.5/10

[Figs]

I'm hoping i'll enjoy this. Seeing it after work. Trying to decide if I want to get a few drinks in before hand or after...

[dogwonder78]

After! :) You don't need drinks to get through this one. You will really enjoy it if you like action and stunts.

[Doctor Jones]

I guess I'm seeing this tomorrow again with friends. We're getting out early and skipping Spring-a-Palooza at school and they've never seen it so I'll give it another chance.

[BLACK-SPIDEY]

If theres a sequel I wanna see the Dark/Evil Prince Dastan. :awesome:

Either that or an Assassins Creed movie.

[Crosswind Ghost]

If theres a sequel I wanna see the Dark/Evil Prince Dastan. :awesome:

Either that or an Assassins Creed movie.
I'm all for a Assassins Creed film.

[Figs]

After! :) You don't need drinks to get through this one. You will really enjoy it if you like action and stunts.

I should have clarified. I didn't mean to get through the film since it seems like a bit of mindless fun like the first Mummy film. It was more or less because a **** day at work. :woot:

[lespaul59]

So I finished the Prince of Persia: Before the Sandstorm graphic naval yesterday and thought I would review it. So I'll get through the boring stuff first, price was $9.99 at my local Barnes and Noble, 128 pages. It was wrote by Jordan Mechner and each of the six stories have a different artist. The art isn't that great as a whole but one story has pretty good art. The description of the book on both Barnes and Noble's and Amazon's sites make the book seem like it's something it's not. They both have the same description that basicly says six original stories that highlight the characters and the wolrd of the film. While this is true to a point but the book is mainly about Alfred Molina's character and Seso. They get arrested for purchessing good at the market with money that turns out to be a reward from Dastan. So each story has to do with why they might have ended up getting rewarded. I don't think the first story is real but rather Amar(Molina) making up a story as to why Dastan rewarded him, the story wich is kinda Tamina's origan seems to line up with the movie and the last story seem to line up with the movie also. Other than appearing in those three stories Dastan and Tamina aren't in the comic at all. The second story in the book has to do with Seso's origan. All in all it wasn't a bad buy considering it was only $9.99 but if I had it to do over again I would probaly pass on it and would have picked up Prince of Persia: Beneath the Sands of Time. I give Pop: Before the Sandstorm a 3/5. It's a good read but I would have rather read six stories about six characters from the movie or a Dastan and Tamina story insted.

[Silver Knight]

If theres a sequel I wanna see the Dark/Evil Prince Dastan. :awesome:


I think we will.

[Rock Sexton]

They basically merged the very first PoP game that Mechner made along with the Sands of Time. No supernatural creatures, but a supernatural artifact.

No creatures? Bleh, I'll wait for DVD.

[Silver Knight]

No creatures? Bleh, I'll wait for DVD.

There should have been creatures since POTC had some. Shame really.

[lespaul59]

I want to make a correction to my PoP: Before the Sandstorm review. I actually like the art in two of the stories. I had to go back and look at the GN because I thought I was forgetting something, which I was. The art in the stories is good not great but it has a story book feel to it which I think fits the book way better than the other art.

[XxDelta09xX]

I saw this today I'd give it a 7/10.

[Tony Stark]

Wow, this movie could have been so much better. The first 30 minutes, up until the King dies were spectacular. Then the film devolves into a "been there done that" fest that was so paint by the numbers it wasn't even funny.

I'll give Jake Gyllenhaal credit, I didn't think he'd be a good leading man for an action film, but he was one of the few bright spots to the movie. Gemma Arterton, is just a horrible actress, but she's pretty hot. She was just as bad in Clash of the Titans. Her big claim to fame was being coated in oil naked in Quantum of Solace as a hommage to Goldfinger.

The cinemetography at the beginning of the movie is spectacular, which is why it's so depressing that it rapidly devloves into bland shots and back lot sound stages that are substandard for a TV movie. Did they burn the budget on the CG? What happened?

It's frustrating, because this is another movie that could have been the biggest suprise of 2010.

As a final note, Ben Kingsley for such an actor of his stature sure ends up in alot of bad movies. Of courst to be fair the same could be said of Sean Connery.

6/10 for me, and that's being generous.

[Silver Knight]

Wow, this movie could have been so much better. The first 30 minutes, up until the King dies were spectacular. Then the film devolves into a "been there done that" fest that was so paint by the numbers it wasn't even funny.

I'll give Jake Gyllenhaal credit, I didn't think he'd be a good leading man for an action film, but he was one of the few bright spots to the movie. Gemma Arterton, is just a horrible actress, but she's pretty hot. She was just as bad in Clash of the Titans. Her big claim to fame was being coated in oil naked in Quantum of Solace as a hommage to Goldfinger.

The cinemetography at the beginning of the movie is spectacular, which is why it's so depressing that it rapidly devloves into bland shots and back lot sound stages that are substandard for a TV movie. Did they burn the budget on the CG? What happened?

It's frustrating, because this is another movie that could have been the biggest suprise of 2010.

As a final note, Ben Kingsley for such an actor of his stature sure ends up in alot of bad movies. Of courst to be fair the same could be said of Sean Connery.

6/10 for me, and that's being generous.
May I ask you how you think this movie could have been better?

[rashad]

Domestic:$59,452,000 27.5%+
Foreign:$156,400,000 72.5%
=Worldwide:$215,852,000

[Asteroid-Man]

So it made 15 million more than its budget? I'll be sure to see it again then, I want a sequel.

[DarkKnight88]

It ain't seeing a sequel. It's certainly not a bomb but it's not a big success either This'll be a one off like Van Helsing.

[Tony Stark]

May I ask you how you think this movie could have been better?

All I can say is there is a huge disparity between the first 30 minutes of the movie and the last 2/3.

Alot of things just felt jumbled and out of place due to bad script writing. Like how Alfred Molina and his bandits go from kidnapping Dastan to chasing down the girl, and then all of a sudden after they had him kidnapped making the discovery that he's a wanted man out of thin air. Just sloppy writing.

As I said, the girl is a horrible actress. She's drop dead gorgeous, but she couldn't act her way out of a paper bag.

The other thing like I say is it seemed like they wasted the budget on the first 20 minutes of the film and the last 10. The big broad cityscape shots at the begining of the film are just a wonder to behold, but then all of that goes away, and you get close in shots on a sound stage, that looked cheap.

Like I say it's frustrating because this could have been a top 5 film for 2010 and they blew it.

[samsnee]

Domestic:$59,452,000 27.5%+
Foreign:$156,400,000 72.5%
=Worldwide:$215,852,000

Blows my mind that this movie's made 3x more overseas.

[TheVileOne]

Even with that I doubt we are going to see a sequel.

Overseas gross is not enough to justify a sequel that would cost even more.

[xwolverine2]

lol 59mil domestic is pretty laughable

[Tony Stark]

Yeah I think you can pretty much call the film a bomb for all intents and purposes. I mean as weak as Shrek opened the prior week it should have been no. 1 over the holiday weekend. And I will say that for it's flaws, PoP was a better movie than Shrek 4, which was nothing more than a direct to video plot thrown up on screen and in 3D to try and extort money out of the public.

This film will be lucky to make back half it's production costs on it's domestic gross.

[xwolverine2]

i liked shrek 4 better than PoP

[Silver Knight]

Domestic:$59,452,000 27.5%+
Foreign:$156,400,000 72.5%
=Worldwide:$215,852,000

Shame.

[matrix_ghost]

At this rate the movie won't even make 100 million. Goodbye sequel.
THe domestic numbers are important for greenlighting the sequel , not the international ones.
And saturday i was forced to watch this one again. I was hoping to liking this better ( similarly to how i went from giving Sherlock Homes a 6/10 on my first veiwing and later on a 8/10 on my 3rd viewing). but alas.
THe movie just was meh.

I think that this movie might become the next Speed Racer in terms of BO bombs.

[Downhere]

I think that this movie might become the next Speed Racer in terms of BO bombs.

Which is too bad, as I really enjoyed this one. I also agree that the chances for a sequel are really slim, it most likely needed to hit 400+ million worldwide for that to happen and it will not make that.

[Mr. Earle]

Why didnt this movie make a lot of money? Did they not promote it enough? Did the people not care for the cast? Wasnt Jake hot enough for the girls?

I thought the movie was great, certainly better than Pirates 2 and 3 which were rather boring and stupid.

[Downhere]

Why didnt this movie make a lot of money?

I think the marketing campaign sucked for this movie but that's just me. Also, maybe a July release would have gone over a bit better. Something similar to the first pirates film. It could have been a good foil to something like Inception. One is a thought provoking, serious drama, whereas the other is a fun popcorn flick. Something like released a week or two after would have been pretty good I think.

Other than that, it's not the only film underperforming. Sex and the City 2 is as well, along with Shrek 4 (although, doing better than previously expected).

[Silver Knight]

I thought the movie was great, certainly better than Pirates 2 and 3 which were rather boring and stupid.

Agreed!

I dont know what went wrong with this..

[Erundur]

Why didnt this movie make a lot of money? Did they not promote it enough? Did the people not care for the cast? Wasnt Jake hot enough for the girls?

I thought the movie was great, certainly better than Pirates 2 and 3 which were rather boring and stupid.


The movie was jsut not good. It had a very basic storyline mixed in with action scene after action scene, I mean cannot really remember anything rememberable about the film at all. Even with a lack of marketing I believe the hollywood execs knew they probably would not made as much anyways IMO.

If they the writers wanted to do something along the lines of PoTC series they failed. Personally I thought pirates two was better than PoP.

[Mr. Earle]

The movie was jsut not good. It had a very basic storyline mixed in with action scene after action scene, I mean cannot really remember anything rememberable about the film at all. Even with a lack of marketing I believe the hollywood execs knew they probably would not made as much anyways IMO.

If they the writers wanted to do something along the lines of PoTC series they failed. Personally I thought pirates two was better than PoP.But "Revenge of the Fallen" this was any better?

[dark_b]

saying that the movie didnt make money because it was not good is silly and funny.

a lot of bad movies in the present and past made a lot of money if not billion.

the movie needs to click with the masses. it doesnt matter how good the movie is.Prince of Persia didnt click with the masses.

[RachelDawes]

Why didnt this movie make a lot of money? Did they not promote it enough? Did the people not care for the cast? Wasnt Jake hot enough for the girls?

I thought the movie was great, certainly better than Pirates 2 and 3 which were rather boring and stupid.

POP didn't have any character to match up with Jack Sparrow. Alfred Molina's character was supposed to and he was definitely amusing but he wasn't in the same league as Jack.

[san15]

Jake is NOT a bankable star. :hehe:

[omid17]

This movie needed to be made on a bigger scale, POP was like another cheap version of Pirates, i don't know **** about the Last Airbender but that movie looks awesome, everyone at work talks about that movie, just look at all the cool **** you have seen in the trailers and spots, POP was just a huge big meh, i expected much more from this movie, i heard for a movie to do have a sequel it needs to make around 200 domestic, doesn't seem like thats going to happen here (thank god) someone else needs to handle this

[Silver Knight]

Jake is NOT a bankable star. :hehe:

I guess this is true.

I liked him in this role though.

[Erundur]

But "Revenge of the Fallen" this was any better?


I didn't like Revenge of the Fallen and stayed away from all the reviews to make an opinion by myself I thought it was just bad, it was like they had to go big for big's sake. But I was surprised with the first one though, I actually liked it.


the movie needs to click with the masses. it doesnt matter how good the movie is.Prince of Persia didnt click with the masses.

Because it wasn't good. Nothing about the film made me feel attached to it.

[GhostPoet]

Why didnt this movie make a lot of money? Did they not promote it enough? Did the people not care for the cast? Wasnt Jake hot enough for the girls?

I thought the movie was great, certainly better than Pirates 2 and 3 which were rather boring and stupid.


I didn't see it because it really did seem a little too Americanized for my taste...all flash and no substance. I'm waiting for the DVD. that's just my reasoning.

[Asteroid-Man]

The sands alone made this worth seeing on the big screen. :up:

[nightwing06]

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
based on another video game i have yet to play,is a pretty good romp in the dessert,fantasy flick.
Dastan (Jake Gyllenhaal) the adopted son of King Sharaman (Ronald Pickup),is wrongly accused of his murder,goes on the run with Princess Tamina's (Gemma Arterton) who's kingdom he recently invaded,under the claim that weapons of mass destru....i mean some really cool looking swords are being sold from her kingdom to their enemies.

Dastan and Tamina bicker,look lovingly into each others eyes,bicke.....just think of Han Solo and Princess Leia,but instead of flying among the stars ,they trudge through the dessert.Gyllenhaal and Arterton make their scenes together fun.
Alfred Molina provides some great comic relief as Sheik Amar an entrepreneur and ostrich racing-organizer,who jokes and complains about taxes and Persian rulership conspracies.
Ben Kingsley doesnt do much but collect and easy paycheck,he snarls some insults and has a bit of swordplay but thats about it.
The other villains are more interesting,and the also have some very interesting weapons.
The make up artists did a great job because somehow they have made Gemma Arterton more stunningly beautiful.
Im not sure why they decided to use a stop and pause effect during some of the action and special effect sequences,because it made some of the aforementioned scenes look cheesy.
Some may dislike the climax of the film,and i have disliked certain films as of late for using the same type of climax,but maybe they're using them so much such scenes are growing on me.
Scale of 1-10 an 8

[Silver Knight]

Biggest bomb of the summer?

[Happy Jack]

But "Revenge of the Fallen" this was any better?
It is not hard to be better than Transformers 2. POP was better and it was still pretty bad.

[matrix_ghost]

Biggest bomb of the summer?

The movie cost 200 million to break even it should've made 400 million WW.
It's currently at 293 million WW. Dunno if it really is the biggest bomb but being 100 million in the red anit exactly good. You'll find an article soon enough explaining just how much Disney & Bruckheimer lost with PoP

[Silver Knight]

Care to share that article?

[matrix_ghost]

Care to share that article?


Lol. I don't have that :hehe:
I meant to say that you will find such an article soon enough . The trades always have the final numbers later .
Remember when Speed Racer came out. We all knew the movie was a bomb but some months later the trades ran numbers of 200 million or so that WB lost because of Speed Racer. In fact if it weren't for TDK Speed Racer loss would've meant that WB would end the summer in the red.

[Dr. Evil]

Lol. I don't have that :hehe:
I meant to say that you will find such an article soon enough . The trades always have the final numbers later .
Remember when Speed Racer came out. We all knew the movie was a bomb but some months later the trades ran numbers of 200 million or so that WB lost because of Speed Racer. In fact if it weren't for TDK Speed Racer loss would've meant that WB would end the summer in the red.

Toy Story 3 will prevent Disney from finishing in the red.

[Asteroid-Man]

I really don't think this was a bad movie. It was good, the promotions were just garbage.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Hot Toys Dastan Figure

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/front/Hot_Toys_16th_Scale_Prince_Dastan_Collectible_Figu re_131965.asp

[Mr. Earle]

Any chance for a life size Gemma doll? I'm just.... curious.... that's all. :hehe:

[Dr. Evil]

Jake is NOT a bankable star. :hehe:

Nope, but he's a very good Indy film star. Give him a film where the budget is small and have a strong plot and he can give a very strong performance.

[Sundancer]

The Shawshank Redemption didn't do that well in theaters. Look at its rep and popularity now. Same with Office Space.

[Happy Jack]

The Shawshank Redemption didn't do that well in theaters. Look at its rep and popularity now. Same with Office Space.
The difference is both of those films are great, and POP is not.

[rashad]

Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment has announced 1-disc DVD($29.99), 1-disc Blu-ray ($39.99), and 3-disc Blu-ray/DVD Combo ($44.99) releases of Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time for September 14th. The only extra material on the DVD release will be a Unseen World: Making Prince of Persia behind the scenes featurette. The 1-disc Blu-ray will include that, along with a deleted scene ("The Banquet: Garsiv Presents Heads"). The 3-disc release will include all of the above plus a CineExplore: The Sands of Time feature that allows you to uncover over 40 spellbinding segments – including “Walking Up Walls,” “Filming in Morocco”, and “Ostrich Jockey Tryouts”. We've attached the official package artwork below:

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[lespaul59]

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Gemma's look good on the cover. I hope Disney does the $10 off coupon for this.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The flick was decent but it wasn't good enough to overcome it's poor marketing campagin. The movie didn't look special in the previews so it didn't open well and it wasn't a special movie (or it didn't have anything special in it) so it didn't have legs. I think that hiring Jake was a mistake. He's a fine young actor but he proved that he is no action star.

This movie and that Nick Cage movie bombing clearly show that Jerry B has lost his touch...for now.

[Doc Ock]

The Blu-Ray combo looks great! I hope to get it, I haven't seen the film yet but I have hope that I like it.

[Silver Knight]

What are the chances we get a sequel?

[lime]

Well Sands of time underpreform in the boxoffice, with only 127 millions proffit, so they are not good.

[Silver Knight]

127 mil profit is no flop.

[Sam Fisher]

Didn't it cost 150+ to make though?

[lime]

Didn't it cost 150+ to make though?

200.

As for the profit, if movie make even 1 million over it's budget is a good box office. But for a success, the movie must make at least it's budget back and one more. If it's a blockbuster, that it's almost crucial. So the movie had to make at least 400+.

[Doc Ock]

Well Sands of time underpreform in the boxoffice, with only 127 millions proffit, so they are not good.

Thats too bad, I haven't since PoP yet but I was hoping for another Pirates-esque movie series.

[Doctor Jones]

Eh, it should have been, but the first film was so disapointing.

[Alchemyst]

after just recently watching the Tekken film, PoP cant be that bad. Tekken was ok if it were a stand alone action movie, as far as a video game adaptation, whew boy

[XxDelta09xX]

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I'm trying to decide if I wanna get this or not.:woot:

[Silver Knight]

Eh, it should have been, but the first film was so disapointing.

Care to give me your reasons why?

[Original Spawn]

I expected so much more.
The game´s story was supperior to the film´s story.

[Doctor Jones]

Care to give me your reasons why?

It just didn't quite deliver in much of the places such a film should. I thought it would be the next Pirates of the Caribbean. The trailers were better than the film. But the execution wasn't there. Alot of the humor didn't work, the action was sloppy at times, some overracting. It could have been so much more.

[matrix_ghost]

after just recently watching the Tekken film, PoP cant be that bad. Tekken was ok if it were a stand alone action movie, as far as a video game adaptation, whew boy

It's an unfair comparison if you ask me because although both are videogame properties , they are aiming at whole different levels. Tekken is for the crowd who loves fighting movies like TOny Jaa or Jackie Chan movies. Brainless entertaiment.

PoP on the other hand was aiming as a huge audience with it's massive budget and visuals. In that aspect PoP will be the "better' videogame movie because of all the talent that is involved. Yet as a movie itself it just falls flat.
It's no surprise that Bruckheimer and Disney wanted this to be the next POTC movie and therefore i think one should compare PoP to Disney.

Which gives you this :
POTC : Great fight scenes. Charismatic leads and villains as well as awesome vfx.
PoP : Lame fight scenes , bland leads and villains as well as not threatening VFX. At least in POTC you had the skeletons that were fighting the bad guys. Here it's just sand :doh:

[Poeman]

This movie was LOL bad.

[Asteroid-Man]

Tsk, tsk. They should've gone with my adaptation. :p

[Havok83]

I didnt even realize this was a Disney film. I just saw it and it wasnt that bad. For a "videogame movie" it was rather decent. I think a big part of that was their approach with it. It had broad appeal outside of those who were familiar with the games. One thing I didnt like was I found the princess to be incredibly annoying. I think her attitude could have been toned down a bit. I think the movie also could have used a few more memorable moments as it was lacking there. It didnt feel as big and epic as it should have been. I also found the sand time concept a bit confusing and I think that needed more elaboration and should have had a bigger presence. One other thing Id have added was more humor. There were several oppurtunities for some comedic moments and they would have lighten things up a bit. It felt too serious at times but that didnt feel right bc of the actors and characters involved. Overall though it wasnt horrible by any means. Id give it a 7. Not the worst, but defiently not the best. Its watchable

[Downhere]

I loved this movie, definitely picking up the Blu-ray next week.

[The Executioner]

This movie was alright...just make a better sequel.

[Havok83]

This movie was alright...just make a better sequel.
has it been greenlit for a sequel?

[Downhere]

has it been greenlit for a sequel?

No, and I wouldn't expect one unless the DVD/Blu-ray sales are really good.

[Havok83]

No, and I wouldn't expect one unless the DVD/Blu-ray sales are really good.
Too bad bc I think the 2008 Prince would make for a good permise for a film. That would at least be one way to reboot it years down the line if they ever want to revisit the franchise

[The Executioner]

Why reboot it? Movie was not bad at all if they do a sequel just make it better.

[Mr. Earle]

POP was much better than Pirates 3. I liked it a lot, so i think that they could easily set up a few sequels on it.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The movie was a huge flop. The fact is the U.S boxoffice is more important because the studios make more money from the domestic front. Persia cost 200mil to make and probably an ungodly amount to market and it only my 90mil stateside. The studios share the money a movie makes with theaters and not just a little bit. The movie has made no profit whatever and probably never will. I thought that it was a cute movie but a sequel has no chance of being made. No chance what-so-ever.

[Havok83]

POP was much better than Pirates 3. I liked it a lot, so i think that they could easily set up a few sequels on it.
The only Pirates movie I thought was good was the first one. I didnt care for the sequels, so Id agree with what you said

[guitarsingerguy]

I wanted to like the movie...I really did. There was just nothing special about it.

[Downhere]

The movie was a huge flop. The fact is the U.S boxoffice is more important because the studios make more money from the domestic front. Persia cost 200mil to make and probably an ungodly amount to market and it only my 90mil stateside. The studios share the money a movie makes with theaters and not just a little bit. The movie has made no profit whatever and probably never will. I thought that it was a cute movie but a sequel has no chance of being made. No chance what-so-ever.

I wouldn't say that studio's make that much more stateside than internationally, but overall, most studio's get to keep 50-55% of the box office take worldwide. So, Persia has made $330 million so far, so Disney has gotten to keep roughly $165-181 million. With DVD's and TV rights, I'm sure this will end up in the black, but a sequel may not be worth it unless the budget is reduced drastically.

[The Executioner]

The only Pirates movie I thought was good was the first one. I didnt care for the sequels, so Id agree with what you said

Pirates 3 did suck and they making a sequel to that...so a POP 2 can work.

[Mr. Earle]

The only Pirates movie I thought was good was the first one. I didnt care for the sequels, so Id agree with what you said
Yeah, Pirates 2 and 3 kinda sucked, didnt they? :csad:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I wouldn't say that studio's make that much more stateside than internationally, but overall, most studio's get to keep 50-55% of the box office take worldwide. So, Persia has made $330 million so far, so Disney has gotten to keep roughly $165-181 million. With DVD's and TV rights, I'm sure this will end up in the black, but a sequel may not be worth it unless the budget is reduced drastically. I'm looking at the facts. It flopped hard and a sequel will not be made. The movie is unremarkable but I had fun with it (7/10) and the flopping nature of it won't change that opinion one way or the other. Also it aint important but I know what I'm talking about regarding the boxoffice. There is a reason that everybody and their grandmother is saying that this is a bad year for Jerry B. He's had two huge bombs in a row and I'm not going to sugarcoat that.

It's kinda like the people who say that Golden Compass made 370mil worldwide so why aren't they making a sequel? You can't just look at the numbers you have to look at the facts. The facts are Golden Compass killed NewLine because the movie cost a s**tload to make and market and only did 70mil domestically and NewLine didn't make any money from overseas grosses because they sold the foreign rights.

Regarding the topic at hand, I'm sure Disney didn't sell their foreign rights so yes, they made some money from the overseas markets but it wasn't nearly enough to cover the cost of the movie, marketing, prints ect..ect. Even with DVD sales and t.v rights I would be shocked if the movie made any money. And you add the fact that people were meh on the movie, that just means no sequel...ever.

[TheVileOne]

I SEE SPIDEY has it right here.

I enjoyed the movie but yeah it could've been better. All the political allegory stuff just felt like lame hamfisted BS. It's not well-served in a fantasy action adventure movie based on a series of videogames. Its not a METAL GEAR SOLID movie.

Just saying you don't go into Indiana Jones getting ready for all that type of nonsense.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm not a Republican, (even if I wanted to be I'm sure they wouldn't accept me because I am a black muslim "terrorist" female) I think that the Iraq war was a huge evil act so I have no problem with that sort of message. I just felt that the message was too in your face, if it wasn't shoved in your face in the overbaring way it was I wouldn't have had a problem with it being in the movie at all. A movie can be fun and still have a message thats politically/socially relevent.

And before anybody gets their undies in a bunch I am refering to the people who are leading the republican party right now, not the everyday joe republican who isn't a huge bigot who likes the blow up them dark skinned, monkey god praying, savages.

Yeah this post got too political but what the f**k? I'm angry.

[The Executioner]

Lol I See Spidey relax man...take a chill pill. Like I said the sequel if they give it a chance can have the Indiana Jones like adventure and fantasy elements the video game had.

[dark_b]

Jerry B was on Charlie Rose Jul 9.
http://www.charlierose.com/search/search/3002?text=jerry+bruckheimer

and i thought that he would had the balls to ask him about the POP bomb. you know for so many years they talk how is a good producer and how he makes those big blockbusters.

but nothing. come on. i want to see hes face.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Saw the movie.

Thought it was awesome. Might be because I'm a fan of the games...and alot of the things in the film felt legit to the series.

I wish they had hinted more of the price the Prince will need to pay in the sequel, but I'm also happy they kept the film self-contained.

[Octoberist]

I wanted to like the movie...I really did. There was just nothing special about it.

I feel the same way. The funny thing is that, the movie didn't anything wrong. Maybe they didn't take advantage of the dagger and using it in more interesting situations but otherwise it was good. But it was missing something.

Also, I DO have to say it's stupid to intercut and edit the parkour. Parkour WORKS when it's done in one shot, at a wide angle. It's all about spaces. Same thing when you watch a martial arts movie (Donnie Yen for example), you wanna see some of his moves in ONE CONTINUOUS SHOT.

But not a biggie.

[Doc Ock]

Saw the film over the weekend, I loved it! I'm not sure how accurate it was to the game as I have not played the Sands of Time(but I have played Warrior Within and The Two Thrones). I sure hope for a sequel.

[Havok83]

You really need no knowledge or prior experience to the games to enjoy the movie and thats one thing I like about it. It shares a common theme without necesarily tying down to any of the contiuity from the games

[Punisher_MAX]

finally saw it...i dont see how it did bad, it was a pretty entertaining movie...i havent played the games but after reading up on them it sticks relatively close to the theme of the SoT game.

anyway this movie really made me want to see Hollywood do Assassin's Creed

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Yeah, the scene where the Prince stands with a rope in hand and takes a breath before doing the (eagle) dive...was straight out of Assassin's Creed whenever you reach a tower and enter eagle vision.

The parkour felt amped up, way more a part of the film than others I've seen, instead of a cool little segment. Jake was great I thought. I have no knowledge of how a Persian accent is supposed to sound for the time period, except all I do know is that the accent was the same in the games...which is what I'm going on with his performance. The constant back and fourth relationship with the Princess was straight out of the game as well. The ending was slightly different than in the game, and again...I think it would have been nice to hint at the price the Prince will be hunted to pay in the sequel, but it's was all cool I thought.

There was way more violence than I thought there'd be too, which was nice.

I mean, I'm hardpressed to think of a more faithful videogame film adaptation...which equals the best one for me. I'm not exactly sure how someone could argue it's not the best videogame film...but it's hands down the most faithful adaptation.

[GhostPoet]

Saw it.
It wasn't a BAD movie, but wasn't a great movie either.
It was decent.

My main issues were the heavy handed, hammer over the head political commentary of the story and cartoony river of sand action sequence.

[GhostPoet]

Yeah, the scene where the Prince stands with a rope in hand and takes a breath before doing the (eagle) dive...was straight out of Assassin's Creed whenever you reach a tower and enter eagle vision.

The parkour felt amped up, way more a part of the film than others I've seen, instead of a cool little segment. Jake was great I thought. I have no knowledge of how a Persian accent is supposed to sound for the time period, except all I do know is that the accent was the same in the games...which is what I'm going on with his performance. The constant back and fourth relationship with the Princess was straight out of the game as well. The ending was slightly different than in the game, and again...I think it would have been nice to hint at the price the Prince will be hunted to pay in the sequel, but it's was all cool I thought.

There was way more violence than I thought there'd be too, which was nice.

I mean, I'm hardpressed to think of a more faithful videogame film adaptation...which equals the best one for me. I'm not exactly sure how someone could argue it's not the best videogame film...but it's hands down the most faithful adaptation.


hah, I kep tthinking "Wow...I think these guys really wanted to make an Assassins Creed film instead"

[Octoberist]

I did the like the Boba Fett of the movie: The nameless Snake man.

[Spider-Who?]

it wasn't amazing, but it was a decent popcorn flick. i would see a sequel.

and i really really want an assassin's creed movie (though i'm admittedly terrified about how badly it'd be butchered).

[Punisher_MAX]

honestly whoever is bothered by the political allusion to the Iraq War and use it as the main reason that the movie bothered them need to grow up, who cares? all movies allude to something i dont see what the big deal is.

i need to pop in my AC and play it again...i have yet to get ACII...i should get on that.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I can see how someone could read into it...except, really...the concept was key to the plot. Without it, nothing happens. Although technically....nothng did happen...so, hmm.

I found Alfred Molina's character very entertaining. Him wanting to escape the tyrannical government and they're evil taxes was thematically relevant to our current politics...and still funny. Wasn't preachy or anything.

I also liked how they toyed around with the Prince's attire, him looking like the Warrior Within version...and then looking like the 2008 Prince of Persia version with the headgear.

[Vapor]

I saw it and enjoyed it but some how, something didn't quite feel.. right.

I don't really know what.. Jake was good and the action was good but it seemed to come in fairly sparse, short bursts.. and I don't think they really took full advantage of the concept of the dagger.. I personally would have liked to have seen more rewinding of time, perhaps with broken items being repaired and also the slowing down of time and freezing of time during fights. More parkour and acrobatic fighting too would have being good. The directing wasn't bad by any means either (although the parkour could have been handled a little better I think) but someone else would have maybe being a better choice? I dunno.. Mike Newell did alright.. it did feel like a POP movie, it just didn't quite fulfill it's full potential, I guess.

3/5

[Octoberist]

I agree, they should have used the dagger more often, and less editing of the parkour.

[Doc Ock]

I wanted more time travel.....

[Octoberist]

I also thought the final scene when the walls were crumbling around Jake in the temple looked so...green screen fake. I wish it could have been cleaned up and more real because I didn't buy it. Otherwise the other CGI looked fine in the film.

[Project862006]

i saw it and liked it not great but a solid entertainment

a bit cheesy an too comical at times but still good

a sequel woudl be welcomed but wont happen

story and dialouge were a bit shady but still solid

[Ipodman]

i saw it and liked it not great but a solid entertainment

a bit cheesy an too comical at times but still good

a sequel woudl be welcomed but wont happen

story and dialouge were a bit shady but still solid

Really? it did quite well at box office.. not as well as Pirates tho but still

[Project862006]

355 WW on a 200 million budget

90 million domestically

not bad but not franchise material

[Ipodman]

At least it did better than most video game movies

[Project862006]

sure did i enjoyed it a hell of alot more than max payne

[lime]

The movie was really bad. The Cinematography on the action sequences was just horrible!

[nocomics]

The movie was really bad. The Cinematography on the action sequences was just horrible!
It wasn't a great film it dragged on way too long for what it was,and thast a popcorn flick. The action sequences/fights were decent imo,and Jake did a good job,but overall it was kindof weak. Its one of those films you pop in the blu ray when u are bored.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I thought the action sequences were good. The problem was, for me, they kinda all melded together. The dagger was a missed opportunity, because they could have done some creative stuff with the fights using it.

The film was damn faithful. Most faithful videogame film adaptation, I believe. Maybe the Prince of Persia fiction isn't worthy of a film, I dunno...but as a fan of the game, I have a hard time knocking them because it's pretty accurate. Even the banter between the Prince and the Princess was on the mark from what I wanted.

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[Mr. Earle]

I reported the post.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

And I took care of it.

[Asteroid-Man]

God I hope they make a sequel...

[Ipodman]

The part where he stabbed himself had me scratching my head. Really? You don't have to kill yourself to prove it you know...

[Octoberist]

Prince of Persia is a weird movie for me because there's so much talent behind it, and it doesn't do anything wrong, but something is missing.

I agree that the dagger could have been used more effectively, and that some of the CGI was wonky. Seriously, this movie had a lloooooong post-production, so I'm shocked that some of the CGI was bad.

[DarKJediKnight]

The part where he stabbed himself had me scratching my head. Really? You don't have to kill yourself to prove it you know...

He kills himself so he could force his brother to push the dagger's button to see that it really does turn back time.

[Matt Mortem]

Prince of Persia is a weird movie for me because there's so much talent behind it, and it doesn't do anything wrong, but something is missing.

I agree that the dagger could have been used more effectively, and that some of the CGI was wonky. Seriously, this movie had a lloooooong post-production, so I'm shocked that some of the CGI was bad.

Thats how I felt about it. It wasn't good, it wasn't bad, it was just :dry:

[Bren]

I suppose my interest in the genre, game and talent meant I went in with too high expectations. To me, the movie was rubbish.
Molina's character was as irritating as the whole desert in my eye, didn't ever find him and his ostriches funny, and the princess almost as bad.

Worst movie, no - Most disappointing for me in 2010, definitely. That made it feel rubbish to me (even if I acknowledge I'm being a bit harsh).

[zanos]

I just finished watching this film recently and I really liked it. Is the story silly, cliche and overly abused in hollywood? Yes! Are the characters ridiculously archetypal? Of course! But I think ultimately enough elements came together to make this an enjoyable film overall, and let's not forget about Gemma Arterton....Oh.My.God.

[GhostPoet]

I still don't like this film. You know...a lot of people hate on The Last Airbender...but this is the movie I think is horrible.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I never did bother to see it in theaters... I ought to watch it on DVD. Although it looks to me like it's just as people are saying. Just a "meh..." movie.

All I'm really interested in is if they're doing Warrior Within, with the Dahaka.

[Asteroid-Man]

The issue is that the story was kind of flat. They missed out on so much potential with the story. Personally I've come up with a far more complex and layered story exploring all the different versions of the PoP mythology, while still bringing in a new story BUT still feeling like Prince of Persia. Damn my movie should've been made...

[Spider-Who?]

one of my issues with the movie is the ending...

they spend the whole movie saying that the dagger can't be taken to the original...thing...(i forget what they called it), because it would destroy the world...but then they failed, and instead of the world being destroyed, it rewound time to the most absurdly opportune place in the plot to clean everything up nice and neat.

i enjoyed the action and parkour bits, and agree with others that the dagger could have been used a lot more, especially in action/fight scenes to really make the movie stand out. And was I the only one who was hoping to see the Prince doing parkour, only to screw up and have to use the dagger before falling to his death?

[Eelectro 2]

they showed way too much of this film in trailers that it took the excitement out of certain scenes having already seen them

[zanos]

355 WW on a 200 million budget

90 million domestically

not bad but not franchise material

Well it is still earning very steadily with it's dvd and bluray sales. It's already made over 30 million as of late November. I think a lower budget sequel would be justified based on what it's made so far. I still don't know why it cost 200 million dollars to make in the first place.