The Official Serenity Thread! (Make no more)

[LexCorp]

Cool. Do you think buying up all the copies of Serenity from my home would make a difference? Not like I could afford that anyway..

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

It probably would, but i wouldnt recommend it if you dont have the money, LOL

[LexCorp]

It probably would, but i wouldnt recommend it if you dont have the money, LOL

Good advice........

[slipknotrocks]

I hope there's sequel ot serenity it was a really good movie!

[LexCorp]

I hope there's sequel ot serenity it was a really good movie!

Good to hear that. Keep the hope alive.

"When you can't walk you crawl, and when you can't crawl you find someone to carry you."

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Any news of a director cut coming out at all, i would be extremely interested.

[LexCorp]

Any news of a director cut coming out at all, i would be extremely interested.

I haven't heard anything, but what else could be put in it? Not sure if I could take in another version of events when the first one was so good. I am open to it though.

[kytrigger]

I haven't heard anything, and I don't expect to for some time. Joss Whedon is currently writing the screenplay for Wonder Woman. I think that the earliest we could hear anything would be when he is finished with the script, right before he starts directing it. He might then mention if he (or someone else) will be doing another Serenity film after Wonder Woman.

[CConn]

He just finished the first draft of the WW script a few days ago, apparently. But he has another film he's working on as well, so he's going to probably be pretty busy for the next year or two.

[LexCorp]

Even if somewhere down the line he found time for this do you not think Joss has a nack for moving on fairly quickly from his projects? Will he ever return to this?

[Kent]

Even if somewhere down the line he found time for this do you not think Joss has a nack for moving on fairly quickly from his projects? Will he ever return to this?

Firefly/Serenity is Joss's dream project. If he gets the shot, he will return.

[LexCorp]

Firefly/Serenity is Joss's dream project. If he gets the shot, he will return.

That's cool. You know he came up with the idea of Firefly at season 3 of Buffy. So I guess that shows long term faith.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Firefly/Serenity is Joss's dream project. If he gets the shot, he will return.

I certainly hope so, there is so much potential for this franchise its unbelievable. Imagine, we get a trilogy, with about 10 hours of back story from the T.V series also, that would be amazing, and i would not stop watching them.

[LexCorp]

I certainly hope so, there is so much potential for this franchise its unbelievable. Imagine, we get a trilogy, with about 10 hours of back story from the T.V series also, that would be amazing, and i would not stop watching them.

Potential is right. Have you seen the action figures?

[swifty]

When I first saw Serenity's trailer, I thought of it to be another dumb sci-fi movie but to my surprise when I saw the dvd, I thought it was pretty good.
I'm now going to check out Firefly.

[CConn]

The main problem is finding someone who will give him that shot. Firefly is a cancelled TV series - after only what, 7 episodes? - Serenity was a bomb at the box office, and hardly a success on DVD, either. If I were a Hollywood Executive, I'd see no reason to want to pick up the series. Unless, y'know, it's the Sci-Fi channel or something.

[LexCorp]

The main problem is finding someone who will give him that shot. Firefly is a cancelled TV series - after only what, 7 episodes? - Serenity was a bomb at the box office, and hardly a success on DVD, either. If I were a Hollywood Executive, I'd see no reason to want to pick up the series. Unless, y'know, it's the Sci-Fi channel or something.

I think it was more like 20 episodes. But yeah I see what you mean but stranger things have happened.

[The Question]

15 episodes, actually. Plus a few unaired scripts. Besides, it wouldn't be the first time something like this happened. The Naked Gun films were based on a TV show that was cancelled after about two or three episodes.

[CConn]

It was cancelled before all the episodes aired though, wasn't it? 7 or 9. Or am I thinking of some other show...

[LexCorp]

It was cancelled before all the episodes aired though, wasn't it? 7 or 9. Or am I thinking of some other show...

I think it was cancelled on the last shoot for the last episode at Christmas. The crews xmas party then became an end of Firefly party in stead.

[spiderman30]

Hello,
why don't make a crossover movie from title "RIDDIK VS RIVER" ?

Hi

[LexCorp]

Hello,
why don't make a crossover movie from title "RIDDIK VS RIVER" ?

Hi

Hello and welcome to the Hype. River owns Riddik and the movie would last 5 seconds if they had a fight...:up:

[The Question]

It was cancelled before all the episodes aired though, wasn't it? 7 or 9. Or am I thinking of some other show...


I believe that there was one episode that they didn't get to air. Heart of Gold, it was called. Damn good episode, too.

[LexCorp]

I believe that there was one episode that they didn't get to air. Heart of Gold, it was called. Damn good episode, too.

I know in England they did not air the pilot which made no sense IMO.

[Angry Sentinel]

15 episodes, actually. Plus a few unaired scripts. Besides, it wouldn't be the first time something like this happened. The Naked Gun films were based on a TV show that was cancelled after about two or three episodes. 15 :eek: ... I think I've missed a few. I can only recall about 11. Are all of these on DVD?

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

:rolleyes:

Yes. You can get THE C O M P L E T E series on DVD boxset, usually four disc extravanganza!

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well its really 14 episodes, but Serenity, the pilot, is the length of two episodes so you could class it as 15. Heart Of Gold is a very good episode, with some good insights about Mal and Inara, and Mal finally gets some!!.

[LexCorp]

Well its really 14 episodes, but Serenity, the pilot, is the length of two episodes so you could class it as 15. Heart Of Gold is a very good episode, with some good insights about Mal and Inara, and Mal finally gets some!!.

I felt really shocked when it cut to Inara crying in that episode, powerful stuff. After she knows Mal got some from her companion friend.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I felt really shocked when it cut to Inara crying in that episode, powerful stuff. After she knows Mal got some from her companion friend.

I know, i really thought at the end though Mal and Inara were gonna admit to each other how they feel, was quite shocked when Inara said what she said.

[LexCorp]

Still, the fun is in there with Jayne, Whores and Guns....lol

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I'm starting to lean towards Jayne as my favourite character, he has so many great moments during the series and a few good ones in Serenity as well.

[LexCorp]

Always a good one.
Jayne in a airlock: "I got stupid the money was too good."

From Serenity.
Jayne: "Heck I've been to the edge. All I saw was more space."

and

Mal: "You wanna run this ship?"
Jayne: "YES!"
Mal: "Well....you can't"

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

My favourite line is from Serenity:

[after breaking into a practically empty bank safe]
Zoë: At last, we can retire and give up this life of crime.

[Mentok]

Simon - 'River! River? Are you okay?'
River - 'I swallowed a bug.'

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

That line was perfectly crafted lol

[schillah]

Mal: "You wanna run this ship?"
Jayne: "YES!"
Mal: "Well....you can't"

lmao!! those lines came at the perfect time

[The Question]

The best lines are near the end of the Firefly episode, Safe:


*Simon and River, who have been kidnapped by crazy religious hillfolk, are about to be burned at the stake because River's telepathy, in the eyes of the villaige, marks her as a witch. Suddenly, a huge light shines down fron Serenity, which is floating over the town. Jayne is hanging out of the ship with a sniper riffle, and Mal and Zoe walk up behind the crowd*


Mal: Got here just in time! What does that make us?

Zoe: Big damn heroes, sir!

Mal: Aren't we just?

*Mal stands in front of the croud*

Mal: Now, ya'll have something that belongs to us. We'd like if you'd give it back.

Townsperson: You cannot interfere with God's will!

Mal: See the man with the really big gun in the space ship uo there? Well, it's not that you were hard to find, but you were a bit out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. He's looking to kill some folk, so really it's his will you better be worrying about. Cut 'er down.

Townsperson: That girl is a witch!

Mal: Yeah. But she's our witch.

*points his gun at the croud*

Mal: Cut 'er down.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Another good one:

Simon:'Its a safe word.........it puts her to sleep in case of an emergency......if i speak the words'
Jayne:(Jumping up out of his chair) 'Dont say it!'
Zoe:'It only works on her Jayne'
Jayne'Well now i know that' (Sits back down)

LOL great scene.

[LexCorp]

The best lines are near the end of the Firefly episode, Safe:


*Simon and River, who have been kidnapped by crazy religious hillfolk, are about to be burned at the stake because River's telepathy, in the eyes of the villaige, marks her as a witch. Suddenly, a huge light shines down fron Serenity, which is floating over the town. Jayne is hanging out of the ship with a sniper riffle, and Mal and Zoe walk up behind the crowd*


Mal: Got here just in time! What does that make us?

Zoe: Big damn heroes, sir!

Mal: Aren't we just?

*Mal stands in front of the croud*

Mal: Now, ya'll have something that belongs to us. We'd like if you'd give it back.

Townsperson: You cannot interfere with God's will!

Mal: See the man with the really big gun in the space ship uo there? Well, it's not that you were hard to find, but you were a bit out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. He's looking to kill some folk, so really it's his will you better be worrying about. Cut 'er down.

Townsperson: That girl is a witch!

Mal: Yeah. But she's our witch.

*points his gun at the croud*

Mal: Cut 'er down.

That is a good quote dude.
Also when Wash and Zoe walk in to see the freak show (baby cow in a jar) and Simon standing there.

Wash: "Oh my god it's hideous.......oh and there's something in a jar."

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That is a good quote dude.
Also when Wash and Zoe walk in to see the freak show (baby cow in a jar) and Simon standing there.

Wash: "Oh my god it's hideous.......oh and there's something in a jar."

Thats a good one, along with the follow up "Do not fear me.....ours is a peaceful race...and...we must live in harmony."

[Halcohol]

My favorite episode of that show was the one where they broke into the hospital. Those guys with the sonic weapons were creepy.

"We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural response."

[Angry Sentinel]

My favorite episode of that show was the one where they broke into the hospital. Those guys with the sonic weapons were creepy.

"We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural response." That is a good one. But my favorite is split between The one where Serenity lost life support and the one where Niska caught up with Mal... I don't think it's hard to see that I absolutely love how well written Mal's character is.

[Halcohol]

The torture episode was also really good for Wash, too. My favorite part of the flashback episode would've been how they picked up Jayne.

"Hey, I tracked you here, didn't I?"
"Yeah... you did! How much are they payin' ya?"

[LexCorp]

That is a good one. But my favorite is split between The one where Serenity lost life support and the one where Niska caught up with Mal... I don't think it's hard to see that I absolutely love how well written Mal's character is.

Nice way to start the life support episode. Having Mal face plant the floor....:up:

[Angry Sentinel]

The torture episode was also really good for Wash, too. My favorite part of the flashback episode would've been how they picked up Jayne.

"Hey, I tracked you here, didn't I?"
"Yeah... you did! How much are they payin' ya?"Oh, yeah, Wash came full circle that day. He had to overcome some "issues" by facing the truth about his feelings. Plus, he gained a brand new respect (by seeing exactly why his wife follows the man) for Mal. But the way it was handled was nothing less than sheer genius... shock therapy in fact(makes you wonder about some real doctors)

Mal read that situation perfectly, never had to fire a shot!:up:

Nice way to start the life support episode. Having Mal face plant the floor....:up: I was like... WTF!!! I love stories that "retred" the timeline to reveal the details. It's a personal favorite storytelling style of mine.

[LexCorp]

http://www.sadgeezer.com/firefly/episodes/episode1-01-images/f101_004.jpg
The spaceship (a Firefly class transport ship called Serenity) arrives – and it was a great entrance! Wash kindly informs the brawlers, “Every man there go back inside or we will blow a new crater in this little moon.”

[LexCorp]

In Bushwacked did you notice that Jayne was wearing a t-shirt that had a ‘Blue Sun’ motif on it? Cool huh....

http://www.sadgeezer.com/firefly/episodes/episode1-02-images/Pdvd_050.jpg

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

ooooooooooooooooooh!

[Halcohol]

One of the most original parts of this show was the hybrid of American and Chinese culture. You really believe that those two countries would be running the galaxy in 400 years :p

"Ohhh, I'm goin' to the special hell."

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think Out Of Gas is definately the best episode for getting into Mal's head, and it really shows how much he loves Serenity and the crew. The emotion at the end nearly has me in tears every time and its an episode that makes you laugh and cry all in one viewing.

[LexCorp]

Weird to think that Strawberries are rare huh. I would miss those. Cool how Book used that to get on the ship / gain trust. Right away you are told he may have access to the finer things if he needs it?

http://www.entil2001.com/series/firefly/season1dvd/ff1-1p4.jpg

[LexCorp]

I think Out Of Gas is definately the best episode for getting into Mal's head, and it really shows how much he loves Serenity and the crew. The emotion at the end nearly has me in tears every time and its an episode that makes you laugh and cry all in one viewing.

Yep it was a good one.

http://www.entil2001.com/series/firefly/season1dvd/ff1-8p2.jpg

Finally got a pic of that face plant!! :up:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Weird to think that Strawberries are rare huh. I would miss those. Cool how Book used that to get on the ship / gain trust. Right away you are told he may have access to the finer things if he needs it?

http://www.entil2001.com/series/firefly/season1dvd/ff1-1p4.jpg

The expression Kaylee makes when she eats that strawberry is borderline pornographic!

[LexCorp]

The expression Kaylee makes when she eats that strawberry is borderline pornographic!

Hell yeah she flickers her eyelids like crazy... lol

[spiderman30]

I love River(Summer Glau)

www.summerglau.co.uk


Hi

[LexCorp]

I love River(Summer Glau)

www.summerglau.co.uk (http://www.summerglau.co.uk)


Hi

Hello, Thanks for that. :up:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I love River(Summer Glau)

www.summerglau.co.uk


Hi

I love River too, she is such a sympathetic and cool character, i especially like her in Safe and Objects In Space, as well as the movie of course.

[LexCorp]

I love River too, she is such a sympathetic and cool character, i especially like her in Safe and Objects In Space, as well as the movie of course.

SAFE:

http://www.entil2001.com/series/firefly/season1dvd/ff1-5p4.jpg

A rarely happy River dancing.....good episode.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Hell yeah she flickers her eyelids like crazy... lol

They must be orgasm strawberries, LOL.

[LexCorp]

Train Job was an Ok one not the best though.........awesome when Mal kicked this guy into the engine at the end!

http://www.sadgeezer.com/firefly/episodes/episode1-01-images/f101_037.jpg

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah i thought that was the best part of the train job, but once again Jayne missed out on all of the fighting action. I would have loved Jayne to fight that Krull guy.

And one important thing i missed in Serenity, were the hell is Vera.

[LexCorp]

Yeah i thought that was the best part of the train job, but once again Jayne missed out on all of the fighting action. I would have loved Jayne to fight that Krull guy.

And one important thing i missed in Serenity, were the hell is Vera.

Who is Vera again. I am having a mental blank....

[The Question]

Jayne's favorite gun.

[Angry Sentinel]

Yeah i thought that was the best part of the train job, but once again Jayne missed out on all of the fighting action. I would have loved Jayne to fight that Krull guy.

And one important thing i missed in Serenity, were the hell is Vera. Aaah yes... I thought I was the only one waiting for Jayne to grab her before jumping off a crashed up Serenity.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Aaah yes... I thought I was the only one waiting for Jayne to grab her before jumping off a crashed up Serenity.

I know, he had all of these guns with him, and not one of them was Vera, do you think she left him LOL.

[LexCorp]

I know, he had all of these guns with him, and not one of them was Vera, do you think she left him LOL.

Thanks for that. Jaynes gun yes....he tries to part with it in return for Mal's "wife" Saffron.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Thanks for that. Jaynes gun yes....he tries to part with it in return for Mal's "wife" Saffron.

Yes it is his "very favourite gun."

[Halcohol]

"See, Vera? Get yourself dressed up and you get taken out someplace fun."

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

"See, Vera? Get yourself dressed up and you get taken out someplace fun."

Did anyone else find this line humorous and deadly serious at the same time?

[Halcohol]

Oh, I loved it. My only thought was that they wouldn't be able to fire more than one shot, since the first would blow out the helmet's face plate...

[LexCorp]

MAL: “What I got? She has a name!”
JAYNE (WITH GUN): “So does this. I call it Vera.”
MAL: “Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle…”

Awesome line....

[Halcohol]

that's the trick tho, there's so many awesome lines in firefly/serenity that it's hard to find one that sucks!

[Angry Sentinel]

^Exactly, and here's another good example

Although I'm missing the Wash character (if this show ever does come back), the scene at the end of Serenity with Mal and River in the cockpit was awesome. Seeing these two characters together, realizing they had grown tremendously from their experience, was like watching a good dynamic duo. And the dialouge was flawless!

[LexCorp]

http://www.entil2001.com/series/firefly/season1dvd/ff1-9p9.jpg
I liked Jayne in the airlock.
http://www.entil2001.com/series/firefly/season1dvd/ff1-9p10.jpg

MAL: “Next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the balls to do it to my face.”

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Exactly, and here's another good example

Although I'm missing the Wash character (if this show ever does come back), the scene at the end of Serenity with Mal and River in the cockpit was awesome. Seeing these two characters together, realizing they had grown tremendously from their experience, was like watching a good dynamic duo. And the dialouge was flawless!

I absolutely love that scene as well, the setting, the mood, the dialogue, the music, everything was perfect. Its just a nice character moment to end the movie with. You know that even though they are battered and bruised, they will go on, and they will love each other and the ship. Perfect.

[LexCorp]

I absolutely love that scene as well, the setting, the mood, the dialogue, the music, everything was perfect. Its just a nice character moment to end the movie with. You know that even though they are battered and bruised, they will go on, and they will love each other and the ship. Perfect.

Yes they can do without Wash. River would easily fill his lack of tact and humour which made him so cool.

[The Question]

I just watched the movie again today, and I realized something. I have now seen and read everything there is to see and read in regards to toe 'Verse, not counting fanfics and unaired scripts. I have nothing left. Meaning, we need us some more Firefly. I say, we all sign that petition that was goin' 'round a while back to get it on On Demand.

[swifty]

I absolutely love FireFly, I never knew how good of a show it was. I love all that space western theme, very original. Yes!! lets all sign that damn petition and have Firefly rekindle. I also very much like how they sometimes use a different language during dialog. What makes FireFly extremely good is the cast, they couldn't have casted it better.

Originally Posted by Angry Sentinel
^Exactly, and here's another good example

Although I'm missing the Wash character (if this show ever does come back), the scene at the end of Serenity with Mal and River in the cockpit was awesome. Seeing these two characters together, realizing they had grown tremendously from their experience, was like watching a good dynamic duo. And the dialouge was flawless!

That was a great scene, like you said...flawless, it really showed their growth of bond.

I also loved that scene from the series where River was accused of being a witch. I loved that last part when her brother Simon wanted to die with her beloved sister. That scene was also flawlessly executed, it made be choke a bit.

Damn!!! if only Serenity made more money at the theaters!!!

[swifty]

is it me or Summer looks a lot like a very young Sigourney Weaver!!!


http://www.summerglau.co.uk/gallery/serenity-promotion/promotion_05.jpg


http://www.posterchoice.com/im/39329_standard.jpg

[LexCorp]

is it me or Summer looks a lot like a very young Sigourney Weaver!!!


http://www.summerglau.co.uk/gallery/serenity-promotion/promotion_05.jpg


http://www.posterchoice.com/im/39329_standard.jpg

In that shot yeah but I think River is a bit more soft looking.

[LexCorp]

I just watched the movie again today, and I realized something. I have now seen and read everything there is to see and read in regards to toe 'Verse, not counting fanfics and unaired scripts. I have nothing left. Meaning, we need us some more Firefly. I say, we all sign that petition that was goin' 'round a while back to get it on On Demand.

Cool. Yeah it is easy to dry up the resources of stuff about Firefly etc... as so little has been made. I'm up for that. :up:

[The Question]

I absolutely love FireFly, I never knew how good of a show it was. I love all that space western theme, very original.


Actually, it wasn't that origional. Most 50s sci-fi TV shows took old western plots and put them into space. And, Firefly has some similarities to the Japanese cartoons Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop. Still, Firefly did it very very well.

[The Question]

Anyway, I had a thought. If one of the problems with Firefly/Serenity is making up for the budget, why not make animated stuff? It's just as expensive to film a close, intimate scene as it is a huge epic war battle if it's animation.

[The Question]

Anyone like my idea?

[Halcohol]

Part of the appeal of the series is that it's live action... the actors all emote so well that the show would lose a lot moving to animation.

It's refreshing to see a big-budget, well-written, (relatively) original story, so I'd have to go with a big no on your idea there, Q.

[The Question]

I understand your first point, but how would it being animated be any less well written?



Anyway, I only really thought of the idea because I was watching Castle in the SKy last night, and I kept imagining an animated Firefly done Miyazaki style.

[Halcohol]

Sorry, I should have edited it to say "big-budget, well-written, (relatively) original live-action story".

I just don't think it would get the same number of people watching it because so many people are turned off of the idea of an animated show. Speaking for myself, I'd spend the whole episode wishing it was done live-action.

The best part for me of the series was the acting, and I wouldn't want to see it reduced to voice only.

[The Question]

Very true. Just saying, it would be a way around any budget problems.

[Angry Sentinel]

As "giddy" as I am to see these stories again, I think Halcohol has a point. The characters (actors) themselves are what really makes this show 'teh sex' for me. I'm not saying I couldn't fall in love with an animated show, I just want to hold out hope for bringing this thing back like it was.

But you're absolutely correct, it would solve some budgeting problems. And who knows, maybe a show like that would bring some mainstream popularity to the show. Cause we all know that budget isn't a factor for something that will make huge dollars from huge ratings.

[Angry Sentinel]

In that shot yeah but I think River is a bit more soft looking. have you seen sigourney when she was younger... she looked pretty soft. I see exactly what Swifty is talking about.

[The Question]

As "giddy" as I am to see these stories again, I think Halcohol has a point. The character's (actors) themselves is what really makes this show 'teh sex' for me. I'm not saying I couldn't fall in love with an animated show, I just want to hold out hope for bringing this thing back like it was.

But you're absolutely correct, it would solve some budgeting problems. And who knows, maybe a show like that would bring some mainstream popularity to the show. Cause we all know that budget isn't a factor for something that will make huge dollars from huge ratings.


Good points all around. Just saying, I was watching Castle in the SKy last night, and now I keep imagining Firefly animated in a Miyazaki style, which would be pretty kickass.

[swifty]

I think FireFly is fine the way it is....live action!!

[The Question]

I know. 'Twas just an idea. Anyway, changing the subject:



If there were a sequel to Serenity, what would the plot be? Maybe involving uncovering Book's secret?

[Halcohol]

That might be part of the story, but since he's dead it might be hard to work in. Perhaps have his secret be the key to solving whatever problem it is they have.

I wouldn't mind seeing the war start up again, maybe a reforming of the browncoats.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

í think another war is a huge possibility after the verse found out what the alliance did at the end of the movie. Maybe something in Books past could help them win the war.

[The Question]

Well, I thought that they could run into someone from Book's past, like his partner or whatever, who reveales Book's story to them. A second war might be interesting. Of course, they'd also have to delve more into the Blue Sun corperation, and how much control they have over the Anglo-Sino Alliance Parlament.

[The Question]

I'm getting the sincere feeling that I'm the only one here posting anymore.

[swifty]

yes you are!!!! :D

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I'm getting the sincere feeling that I'm the only one here posting anymore.

No your not, i just dont have enough time to post as much as i used to, i'm veyr busy at the moment you see.

Joss said he had a very good way of bringing Book back into the story, he just didnt mention what it would be. I'm guessing flashbacks though, told by a loved one as you said before Question.

[The Question]

That seems like the most logical course of action. And, as I said, if they do come back, they must delve more into Blue Sun, and how much infulence they have over the Alliance.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Blue Sun were not in the series or movie much though, so why are they so important?

[Archangel]

Because they have EVERYTHING to do with River being how she is. You could just tell that Joss had big things planned for them in the series before it got cancelled.

[Angry Sentinel]

I wouldn't mind finding out more about this "Umbrella" corp, but I think that story should be in the back ground. The movie Serenity covered a lot of ground for River, and while there are still a ton of questions, I think it would be a better story if it unfolds slowly.

For example, Side story scenes disclosing that Blue Sun was the original creator of the air treatment supplement that poisoned all those people on Miranda. The scenes could imply that Blue Sun knew that there was a possiblity that the effects could render an entire population helpless, and just wanted to test their new "weapon" on a mass scale. So they lied to the Alliance about what it would do.

[The Question]

Blue Sun were not in the series or movie much though, so why are they so important?

Because Joss has said in interveiws that the have ALOT of influence over the Alliance. They funded the Acadamy that experimented on River and all of her classmates (heh, wouldn't it be cool if we met some of the other kids being experimented on?). In the series, remember when River ripped the labels off of those cans of food? And when she slashed Jayne's chest with a knife? Well, in both instances, Blue Sun was involved. The cans were Blue Sun products, and Jayne was wearing a Blue Sun T-shirt.

I wouldn't mind finding out more about this "Umbrella" corp, but I think that story should be in the back ground. The movie Serenity covered a lot of ground for River, and while there are still a ton of questions, I think it would be a better story if it unfolds slowly.

For example, Side story scenes disclosing that Blue Sun was the original creator of the air treatment supplement that poisoned all those people on Miranda. The scenes could imply that Blue Sun knew that there was a possiblity that the effects could render an entire population helpless, and just wanted to test their new "weapon" on a mass scale. So they lied to the Alliance about what it would do.

Might be interesting. Although, what Joss was trying to do with the Pax was to say that the Alliance means well, but imposing your way of life on others, no matter how morally right or enlightened it is, just makes things worse. Still, Blue Sun could be the dark underbelly of the Alliance's utopia. The Alliance does all the nice happy Star Trek-ian stuff. Blue Sun does the covert assasinations and the like.

[The Question]

Anyway, has anyone heard the full version of the Firefly theme song? If not, here's a link to a video with the song:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=-TQmZDceS7k&search=mal%27s%20song

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think it would be really funny and interesting if River got a love interest in the next movie. Could make for some funny instances as they are bound to take more crew.

I didnt know that about the Blue Sun Corporation, thanks guys, i'll look out for the sign more often in the series.

[The Question]

I think it would be really funny and interesting if River got a love interest in the next movie. Could make for some funny instances as they are bound to take more crew.

That could be cool. Like I said, I had an idea for a new character:


A new kid from the acadamy shows up. He said that he had escaped after hearing what Mal and the crew did with the Miranda beacon. Sort of inspired him. He has psychic abilities, and he's a genius with machines, mostly with piloting and electronics. Personality wise, he's completely out of his mind. Not crazy in the way River's crazy. No, he's Deadpool crazy. Here's an example of Deadpool crazy:

http://img141.exs.cx/img141/5710/shoryuken5jh.th.jpg (http://img141.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img141&image=shoryuken5jh.jpg)

He's River's friend, and you could have him as a quasi love interest if you want. Physically, he doesn't look overly amazing. As in, he's not insanely ripped or anything. Throughout the season or series of movies or whatever, w also see a figure clad in black, tracking the crew and confronting them on occasion. In a few instances, he has met with our young pilot, and spoken to him as if they were working together. The young pilot, in these situations, would seem much more sane, and often say that he'll find a way to stop the man in black. The man in black wopuld reply that if they knew the truth, they would not accept the young pilot. During these situations, the man in black would be in the shadows, and rather hard to see. Eventually, we'd discover that the young pilot and the man in black are one and the same. The Acadamy gave him a case of multiple personality disorder to insure that he wouldn't be caught. He would take out the crew, and fight River. While the two would be fighting to the death physically, she and the two personalities would be calmly talking mentally. Eventually, she'd help the two personalities fuse together into one, who would free the crew and become very anti-alliance.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Anyway, has anyone heard the full version of the Firefly theme song? If not, here's a link to a video with the song:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=-TQmZDceS7k&search=mal%27s%20song

She's good, but the singer in the TV episode credits I prefer. Thanks for the link :up:

[The Question]

I tried to find the origional singer singing it, but it was not to be had. Still, kick ass song either way.

[Mr. Credible]

Because Joss has said in interveiws that the have ALOT of influence over the Alliance. They funded the Acadamy that experimented on River and all of her classmates (heh, wouldn't it be cool if we met some of the other kids being experimented on?). In the series, remember when River ripped the labels off of those cans of food? And when she slashed Jayne's chest with a knife? Well, in both instances, Blue Sun was involved. The cans were Blue Sun products, and Jayne was wearing a Blue Sun T-shirt.

i never realized that. thanks.

[Angry Sentinel]

Might be interesting. Although, what Joss was trying to do with the Pax was to say that the Alliance means well, but imposing your way of life on others, no matter how morally right or enlightened it is, just makes things worse. Still, Blue Sun could be the dark underbelly of the Alliance's utopia. The Alliance does all the nice happy Star Trek-ian stuff. Blue Sun does the covert assasinations and the like. I don't think that adding something like my suggestion to the story takes away from the point that was already made. The alliance's actions were still wrong, and having them be the unknowing dupes of Blue Sun just kind of underlines the original point more. Once you open the door to evil, all hell breaks loose, and you find out that you were a part of an even greater evil. This kind of thing usually helps in understanding the nature of evil... it never takes much.

The underbelly, is exactly what I'm talking about. I think they have already been established as this, that's why I referred to them as "Umbrella". Blue Sun is the ubber Corporation that carries the weight of being the true bad guy. Where as the alliance government is the "head figure", Corporations like Blue Sun are really the "powerful" ones. This part of the story should be background stuff, for now.

I think it would be really funny and interesting if River got a love interest in the next movie. Could make for some funny instances as they are bound to take more crew.
Ok, but kind of gimmicky, I have no doubt Joss could spin it into something really interesting though.


He's River's friend, and you could have him as a quasi love interest if you want. Physically, he doesn't look overly amazing. As in, he's not insanely ripped or anything. Throughout the season or series of movies or whatever, w also see a figure clad in black, tracking the crew and confronting them on occasion. In a few instances, he has met with our young pilot, and spoken to him as if they were working together. The young pilot, in these situations, would seem much more sane, and often say that he'll find a way to stop the man in black. The man in black wopuld reply that if they knew the truth, they would not accept the young pilot. During these situations, the man in black would be in the shadows, and rather hard to see. Eventually, we'd discover that the young pilot and the man in black are one and the same. The Acadamy gave him a case of multiple personality disorder to insure that he wouldn't be caught. He would take out the crew, and fight River. While the two would be fighting to the death physically, she and the two personalities would be calmly talking mentally. Eventually, she'd help the two personalities fuse together into one, who would free the crew and become very anti-alliance.
I REALLY like this, and it's a great expansion on the idea presented by AVEITWITHJAMON. There is just so much here that you could do that it would stay very interesting. :up:

[The Question]

I don't think that adding something like my suggestion to the story takes away from the point that was already made. The alliance's actions were still wrong, and having them be the unknowing dupes of Blue Sun just kind of underlines the original point more. Once you open the door to evil, all hell breaks loose, and you find out that you were a part of an even greater evil. This kind of thing usually helps in understanding the nature of evil... it never takes much.

I just don't think it's necesairy to say that Blue Sun knew or had a good idea of what it would actually do. It's fine the way it is.

The underbelly, is exactly what I'm talking about. I think they have already been established as this, that's why I referred to them as "Umbrella". Blue Sun is the ubber Corporation that carries the weight of being the true bad guy. Where as the alliance government is the "head figure", Corporations like Blue Sun are really the "powerful" ones. This part of the story should be background stuff, for now.

There, we definately agree.

I REALLY like this, and it's a great expansion on the idea presented by AVEITWITHJAMON. There is just so much here that you could do that it would stay very interesting. :up:

I'm thinking of writing Whedon and sending in my ideas. Probably won't go anywhere, but who knows?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I like all of the idea's so far people, but i think the Alliance should remain as the main evil. Sure the Blue Sun Corporation should contribute, they may have been the developers of the pax gas on Miranda, but i would prefer it if the Corp. warned the Alliance there could be side affects, but Alliance went ahead anyway,

And i like the idea of the split personality character very much.

[The Question]

I like all of the idea's so far people, but i think the Alliance should remain as the main evil. Sure the Blue Sun Corporation should contribute, they may have been the developers of the pax gas on Miranda, but i would prefer it if the Corp. warned the Alliance there could be side affects, but Alliance went ahead anyway,

But one if the points iof Serenity is that the Alliance isn't pure evil. They mean well, and they do alot of good. They just can't leave people to their own lives when they should.

And i like the idea of the split personality character very much.

Thanks.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

But one if the points iof Serenity is that the Alliance isn't pure evil. They mean well, and they do alot of good. They just can't leave people to their own lives when they should.

I know that, but it sounds like they did some pretty horrific things in the war. And they are never painted in a nice light throughout the series at least. Remember, evil people, most of the time, dont actually know they are being evil.

[The Question]

Still, the Alliance isn't wholely evil. Just as Mal and the crew aren't wholely good. Calling the Alliance evil would be pretty inacurate and simplistic, I'd say.

[Angry Sentinel]

I Think it's a fair assumption that Joss and crew aren't a fan of BIG government. It seems to be a very strong theme for the show at least.

And I agree with Question, I don't think the intent is ever to show that the Alliance is the evil empire. These aren't souless clones, just people who think they know what's best, and feel they need to MAKE it happen their way.

Btw I wasn't trying to say that my idea HAD to happen, just sharing it with you as an example of "background" story. I am open to any attempt to draw a more clear line between the Alliance and the Blue Sun types. Remember, people like a clear cut villian in their stories.

[The Question]

Btw I wasn't trying to say that my idea HAD to happen, just sharing it with you as an example of "background" story. I am open to any attempt to draw a more clear line between the Alliance and the Blue Sun types. Remember, people like a clear cut villian in their stories.


I don't. At least, it's not necesairy. Moral grey areas can make a good story.

[Angry Sentinel]

I don't. At least, it's not necesairy. Moral grey areas can make a good story. Yeah, I had guessed that much from your response earlier. :up:

Moral grey areas are excellent story elements. And it's probably why I find Joss' writing great sometimes. He's not afraid to walk up to the line and cross it. I think this is exactly the role that the Alliance plays in Serenity/Firefly (or even Mal and his crew). But, I also think it's their intention to show the REAL bad guys at times, and that role goes to the Blue Sun types. The great part for me is that these stories use both elements.

Do I need the distinction made between them... no, But most reader/veiwers will.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, if you think about the crew's run in's with the Alliance in the Train Job and Bushwacked, they seem evil to me. They dont give a damn that that town lost its medicine that was clearly vital to their lives. And they were quick to put the blame on the nearest person in Bushwacked. And in Ariel they definately seem evil. So they are never painted in a glowing light in any in the series IMO. In the movie they are somewhat less villainous as they did do the experiment on Miranda for good reasons. But that counts for nothing when 30 million people die, and then the Reavers kill god know how many others in the ten years since their creation.

[The Question]

Yeah, I had guessed that much from your response earlier. :up:

Moral grey areas are excellent story elements. And it's probably why I find Joss' writing great sometimes. He's not afraid to walk up to the line and cross it. I think this is exactly the role that the Alliance plays in Serenity/Firefly (or even Mal and his crew). But, I also think it's their intention to show the REAL bad guys at times, and that role goes to the Blue Sun types. The great part for me is that these stories use both elements.

Do I need the distinction made between them... no, But most reader/veiwers will.


Very true. I'm just saying, while there should be some obviously vilainous agents of the Alliance, there should also be ones who seem like clean and virtueous folk.

Well, if you think about the crew's run in's with the Alliance in the Train Job and Bushwacked, they seem evil to me. They dont give a damn that that town lost its medicine that was clearly vital to their lives.

That's not evil. That's burocracy. The U.S. government does **** like that all the time. So do most other governments. Doesn't mean they're evil.


And they were quick to put the blame on the nearest person in Bushwacked.

True. But that fault lies on the Alliance officer investiagting Mal. Not the Alliance as a whole.


And in Ariel they definately seem evil.

The Blue Hand Men did, yes. But the agents who arrested Simon Jayne and River? Just doing their job.


So they are never painted in a glowing light in any in the series IMO. In the movie they are somewhat less villainous as they did do the experiment on Miranda for good reasons. But that counts for nothing when 30 million people die, and then the Reavers kill god know how many others in the ten years since their creation.

That doesn't make them evil. That makes them people. People make mistakes. Put people in a possition of power, those mistakes cost lives. That's the way with governments. Doesn't make the Alliance the evil empire.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Very true. I'm just saying, while there should be some obviously vilainous agents of the Alliance, there should also be ones who seem like clean and virtueous folk.



That's not evil. That's burocracy. The U.S. government does **** like that all the time. So do most other governments. Doesn't mean they're evil.




True. But that fault lies on the Alliance officer investiagting Mal. Not the Alliance as a whole.




The Blue Hand Men did, yes. But the agents who arrested Simon Jayne and River? Just doing their job.




That doesn't make them evil. That makes them people. People make mistakes. Put people in a possition of power, those mistakes cost lives. That's the way with governments. Doesn't make the Alliance the evil empire.

Well the agents on Ariel did betray Jayne by not giving him his reward for turning them in. I agree with you i wouldnt say they were wholly evil. If they were they wouldnt try to cover up Miranda.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Has anyone else noticed as well, when the Reaver fleet emerge from the ion cloud one of the first through is the Reaver ship that chases them in the pilot. Its just on the left of the screen and is one of the first through, look out for it.

[The Question]

I'm afraid it's dead. Firefly, I mean. The movie did not do well. Hell, it made ten million less than Stealth, which still boggles my mind. Unless the DVD sales prove enough of a profit (and after this much time, I doubt it), I don't think we'll be seeing a sequel. I know I'm being pesimistic, but that's the way it looks.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

shame..summer glau is so damn gorgeous.

[The Question]

She is quite cool. Still, even though they didn't do to well as a movie, they could still conceivably end up on TV again. The Sci-Fi channel has shown intrests in making a series of made of TV movies. Still, as time passes, it seems less and less likely. :(

[Angry Sentinel]

This will be one of those shows that 10 years from now(after Joss has that one huge mainstream hit), people will go back to look at his other work and realize what they missed.

How.Very. sad.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Joss is already in the mainstream...he wrote the average Buffy movie, then had the huge popular Buffy TV show, and then had Firefly and Serenity, Firefly is getting picked up because of the movie.

And we are already looking back and seeing what we missed.

[Mr. Socko]

The first came out at the wrong time, everyone was just beginning to get off of Revenge of The Sith.

[swifty]

I hope to God they decide to continue FireFly series.

is there any chance?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I hope to God they decide to continue FireFly series.

is there any chance?

I doubt some of the cast would return to T.V. Nathan seems to have quite a few movies in the pipeline. The others i dont know but i think they will be trying to get work and may have something in the pipeline.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

I highly doubt that Nathan would turn down a hance to return to Firefly, but if he did, I say we kill him while he slumbers.

Just kidding.

Or am I?

Yes, I am.

But seriosuly...am i?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I just think Nathan might not return for a T.V show, he would definately return for a movie i have no doubt about that. And it would all depen on the actors schedules wouldnt it. I'm just being realistic is all.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

I mena, yeah, he'd have to make room for it, but I reckon he'd love to go back to when it all started, as with all the actors.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

It depends on what film roles he gets offered in the next few years, he might movie to bigger things, you never know.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Yeah true, but didnt his career sort of start with Firefly? He was unheard before that and Serenity.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah i think before that he had been in Angel in a small part, but Firefly and Serenity are what really got him noticed. But i guess we'll just have to wait and see. I cant see another movie or another series happening to be honest.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

There's a chance, but as you said, there's a fat chance it'll happen. It's weird, too, Firefly, here, is released by the stupid company known as Fox, and the movie Universal, dunno if its the same where you are, but does that mean niversal bought the characters or something?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah its the same here. Firefly was at Fox, but as they cancelled it Joss got the rights and shopped them around. Universal bought them so they own the character rights now.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

So how can they release the series on DVD if they don't own it? Am I missing something? Sorry I'm totally out of it.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

So how can they release the series on DVD if they don't own it? Am I missing something? Sorry I'm totally out of it.

Fox funded and produced the series, then cancelled it. Joss was shopping around with presumably no luck. Then Fox released the DVD of the series and it sold somthing like 200,000 copies within a few weeks. So then other movie studio's starting taking an interest, Universal obviously the most. They bought the rights from Fox so that they could produce the movie freely. But i dont think they could use the Firefly name, as Fox may still have the rights to that.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Oh i see...

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

shame..summer glau is so damn gorgeous.

And that i agree with!

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Oh i see...

Just shows you how stupid Fox is, if they had not cancelled this series who knows how much money it would have made them.

[The Question]

This will be one of those shows that 10 years from now(after Joss has that one huge mainstream hit), people will go back to look at his other work and realize what they missed.

How.Very. sad.

Pretty much.

Firefly is getting picked up because of the movie.

Are you sure about this?


I hope to God they decide to continue FireFly series.

is there any chance?

Some network execs have shown interest, but without the proper start up cash it might not happen.

I doubt some of the cast would return to T.V. Nathan seems to have quite a few movies in the pipeline. The others i dont know but i think they will be trying to get work and may have something in the pipeline.

One could be in movies and be in a TV show at the same time. It would take some shoe horning with the scehduel, and it wouldn't be easy, but it could happen.

Yeah i think before that he had been in Angel in a small part

No. He played a villain in Buffy. A catholic preist named Caleb who had lost his faith and became an agent of the devil.

Just shows you how stupid Fox is, if they had not cancelled this series who knows how much money it would have made them.

I've been trying very hard to think of a way that we, the fans, can save the show. Alot of the more fun ones just involve putting Rupert Murdock's balls in a vice.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

One could be in movies and be in a TV show at the same time. It would take some shoe horning with the scehduel, and it wouldn't be easy, but it could happen.

I know that, but Nathan seems fully booked up for a while, and i think he said he would prefer to do another movie than a series.

No. He played a villain in Buffy. A catholic preist named Caleb who had lost his faith and became an agent of the devil.

Oh right, i thought it was Angel, i never watched either show. Wasnt Summer in Angel though?


I've been trying very hard to think of a way that we, the fans, can save the show. Alot of the more fun ones just involve putting Rupert Murdock's balls in a vice.

Ha ha, that sounds like fun, if only we could.

[The Question]

I know that, but Nathan seems fully booked up for a while, and i think he said he would prefer to do another movie than a series.

Most people would. Movies are better for your reputation as an actor. Still, given the chance, he'd come back. I'd think.

Oh right, i thought it was Angel, i never watched either show. Wasnt Summer in Angel though?

Yes. She was very good.

Ha ha, that sounds like fun, if only we could.

I don't see anything stopping us. ;)

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

LOL, in answer to the last part, an ocean and flight ticket are in my way. But i guess we wont really know anything until Joss or the crew mention it.

[The Question]

Like I said, some parties have shown interest, but Joss and his crew have yet to coment on any of them to the best of my knowlege.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Like I said, some parties have shown interest, but Joss and his crew have yet to coment on any of them to the best of my knowlege.

Yes, now comes the waiting game.

[pyromaniac]

Yes. She was very good.



:eek:

She was never in Angel at all.

The name escapes me, but the actress who played Zoe, and Adam Baldwin (Jayne) were both in Angel.

The former was Jasmine, who appeared towards the end of Season 4 as the 'Big Bad' who brainwashed people for the purposes of world peace! The latter was in the last five of Season 5 as well, as - well, Adam, a conduit to the Senior Partners and a substitute for Eve, who was 'fired' from the job.

Nathan Filion's Caleb by the way, was a masochist who villified women and what they represented, and was an agent of First Evil, not the devil lol. Beezlebub made but a peep in the Buffyverse! :p

Morena Baccarin was going to play Eve however, but scheduual conflicts prevented that.

So there you go.

Oh, and Summer Glau auditioned for the role of Shadowcat in X3 - and didn't get it, obviously.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Summer Glau played a ballerina in Angel, i'm 99% certain of it.

And shes a great actress, wonder why X3 turned her down?

[The Question]

Yes, now comes the waiting game.

Yes. You know, I don't see why they call it the waiting "game". It's not very fun.

:eek:

She was never in Angel at all.

Yes, she was. She played the ghost of a balarina from the early 1900s who was traped, forever haunting the theater she worked at by the man who owned the theater, who happened to be a sorcerer.

The name escapes me, but the actress who played Zoe

Gina Torres.

The latter was in the last five of Season 5 as well, as - well, Adam, a conduit to the Senior Partners and a substitute for Eve, who was 'fired' from the job.

The character's name was Marcus Hamilton.

Nathan Filion's Caleb by the way, was a masochist who villified women and what they represented, and was an agent of First Evil, not the devil lol. Beezlebub made but a peep in the Buffyverse! :p

First Evil. Devil. Same thing.

Oh, and Summer Glau auditioned for the role of Shadowcat in X3 - and didn't get it, obviously.

Didn't know that. Interesting.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yes. You know, I don't see why they call it the waiting "game". It's not very fun.

Tell me about, especially were our favourite movies' sequels are concerned.

I knew Summer was in Angel.

[The Question]

Well, Serenity and Firefly aren't my favorites. But they're one of my favorites.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

No, its not my absolute favourite but it is up there.

[The Question]

You know, I recall that Joss or one of his fellow producers said something to this effect in an interveiw. Wouldn't it be funny if some network exec met with Joss and said "you know, Serenity didn't do that well at the box office. But the critics loved it. I see TV series potential here."

[deathshead2]

You know, I recall that Joss or one of his fellow producers said something to this effect in an interveiw. Wouldn't it be funny if some network exec met with Joss and said "you know, Serenity didn't do that well at the box office. But the critics loved it. I see TV series potential here."Question he said I hope after the movie comes out someone who saw it comes up and says you should make this a show.

[The Question]

Yeah. That's why I said "something to this effect". As in, not exactly the same, but the same idea.

[The Question]

Three bits of news:



1. After the most recent cound of the Box Office and DVD sails, Serenity has officially made Universal Studios a profit. Meaning, it can now be considered for a sequel, or possibly a new TV series on one of Universal's stations, NBC or USA.

2. Joss has confirmed that there will be an as of yet unknown number of new Firefly/Serenity comics published by Darkhorse.

3) CW (the UPN/WB merger) has joined Sci-Fi channel and On Deman on the list of networks showing interest in continuing Firefly. While there's nothing official about the CW rumor, Joss had this to say about it on another site:


Abusing links is the only way I know how to live. But I am here with a purpose, my friends. Call me joss Whedon: Rumor Crusher! (Or "Mister Fendendo", if we're being intimate.)

Since everyone's all abuzz with the CW rumor, I have to get all official and say: WE'VE STARTED FILMING NEW EPISODES! Of Dateline. I'm such a troll.

No, there haven't been any overtures from the CW as regards a SereniFly spin-off. I haven't even heard the orchestra tuning up. But if they happen to come calling, I do know what I would do:

1) In order to keep the show cost efficient, we would get rid of a few things we don't need, like spaceships, floors, and Jewel. (You thought I was gonna say 'costumes', didn't you? Porn guy.)

2) Nathan is busy making movies, but since I don't want new cast members, everybody in the cast would just move over one. Jewel (she's back!) would play Mal, Ron would play Kaylee, Morena would play Book, and so on.

3) People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy.

4) The actors can make up their dialogue. I'm bushed, and they're all funny, and the hell with it. Maybe I'll give them a premise to work off of, like "You're all in trouble" or "Wash has a thing". They could maybe light it too.

5) Klingons, but not alien Klingons. But still Klingons.

So already the show is running like a well oiled companion. I'm just proud to be a part of the Country Western network, and I know this will be their biggest hit since "Have Space-Gun, Will Travel."

I hope, as always, this clears things up. And I hope the executives at the Carnie Wilson network DO give me a call. I've got a million ideas for redoing their offices.

Power to the people who are powerful enough to crush the other people! -jossy.



I have a strong feeling that he's joking.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Thanks for the update Question, its good to hear some slightly positive news and lets hope the DVD is still selling.

[GoldGoblin]

Why do people like this series so much,is it just because it has a space theme to it.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

No, it's because it's actually good, which is a rare occurence for TV shows (seriously, actuallypay attention to the crap they put on cable now), plus, it's written by the Geek God joss Whedon :up:

Loved Buffy, love this, and most likely gonna love wonder woman. But it's really good. It you haven't watched this nor the movie, I HIGHLY suggest you do. Great pieces of entertainment

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think its the characters that make it so good. There is not one character in the series that i dont love watching, and they are developed so well, you genuinly care about them.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Agreed

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Mal and River are especially well developed.

[The Question]

No, it's because it's actually good, which is a rare occurence for TV shows (seriously, actuallypay attention to the crap they put on cable now), plus, it's written by the Geek God joss Whedon :up:

Loved Buffy, love this, and most likely gonna love wonder woman. But it's really good. It you haven't watched this nor the movie, I HIGHLY suggest you do. Great pieces of entertainment



Also, the movies he's written are quite good. He was one of the main writers for Toy Story, and he wrote Titan A.E., both movies that I enjoyed a great deal.

[deathshead2]

I always enjoyed toy store but imo Titan AE was really weak.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I liked Titan A.E, would have made a good live action film IMO.

[LexCorp]

Summer Glau played a ballerina in Angel, i'm 99% certain of it.

And shes a great actress, wonder why X3 turned her down?

Yes ahe did you 100% right. Long time no see Jamon dude!!

[SWAT]

I've never seen FireFly, but I saw Serenity a couple of days ago... I really dug it, a lot. Did't like that death tho... that was sad... I liked that character. :(

[LexCorp]

Was a hard pill to swallow.

[The Question]

He was a great character. Get Firefly is you want to see more of him.

[LexCorp]

Heck rent out Dodgeball to see more of him as a pirate!!!

[The Question]

Heck rent out Dodgeball to see more of him as a pirate!!!


Alan Tudick as a pirate equals amazing.

[LexCorp]

Alan Tudick as a pirate equals amazing.

...and also very good as the motion capture behind the Robot in that Will Smith Flick. I Robot right?

[The Question]

That was Tudyk? Kick ass.

[Angry Sentinel]

I've never seen FireFly, but I saw Serenity a couple of days ago... I really dug it, a lot. Did't like that death tho... that was sad... I liked that character. :(


He was a great character. Get Firefly is you want to see more of him.
:up: ... and we're not just saying this because we like the show. Wash (Alan) had some AMAZING moments in the Firefly series. At first you think he's just the standard comic relief character, and then you see the Mal vs Niska episode (someone help me with the name of this one) and you realize why Zoe married the guy...he's got 'mad' heart!

[The Question]

"War Stories" was the neame of the episode.

[pyromaniac]

Yes, she was. She played the ghost of a balarina from the early 1900s who was traped, forever haunting the theater she worked at by the man who owned the theater, who happened to be a sorcerer.


:eek:

Well... Just one episode.

That'd be 'Waiting In the Wings', I believe.





First Evil. Devil. Same thing.



No, it isn't. In Buffyverse, they're not big on traditional theology and Christian conventions. While, the First Evil is not the Devil, I can see where the inspiration might come from, but I've never heard it verbalised.

The devil is a little more concrete, while the brilliant concept of the First Evil is that it is basically evil inherent in man's hearts and abstract inventions. For that reason, Satan is that little bit removed from us... He is not considered to be a part of us, nor as part of evil that inhabits us just as the good side does.

Onto greener pastures - I love Wash. And Book. Forcefully. Passionately. Feverishly. Is it any wonder that their deaths had catapulted their status into my list...? :(

Well, still. They rock. Incidentally, when I watched Serenity, I hadn't seen 'Out of Gas' yet; I was halfway through the very incomplete season, so after the film, I started to love and review the characters of Wash and Book more, and felt more fondness for them, knowing their abysmal fate... :(

Of course, that's not the only reason why. Wash ruled especially in 'War Stories', but then he had had always ruled.

And Alan Tudyk is damn cute too. I should look him up - because I don't know his nationality, or anything about him really.

Damn, I was wondering where Tudyk was in I, Robot. I'd only seen snippets of it, and I was puzzled as to where the hell he was, seeing that his name appeared after the 'and' in the closing credits.

I'll have to watch it.

I wonder what all the actors are doing at the present time.

Great news about Serenity being profitable. I should buy more dvds and dish 'em out!

[cerealkiller182]

I liked the death of Wash from a storytelling point of view. The greatness of his character lends more to the emotional scope of both the viewer and the characters involved. The only bad thing is that the sequel will prolly have a sub-par replacement.

[The Question]

:eek:

Well... Just one episode.

That'd be 'Waiting In the Wings', I believe.

Yes, it was.

No, it isn't. In Buffyverse, they're not big on traditional theology and Christian conventions. While, the First Evil is not the Devil, I can see where the inspiration might come from, but I've never heard it verbalised.

Okay, that's just spliting hairs. For all intents and purposes, the first evil is the devil.

The devil is a little more concrete, while the brilliant concept of the First Evil is that it is basically evil inherent in man's hearts and abstract inventions. For that reason, Satan is that little bit removed from us... He is not considered to be a part of us, nor as part of evil that inhabits us just as the good side does.

Depends on how you interprit it. Some see the devil as an outside force trying to currpt us. Some se it as a metaphore for the darkness inherent in us all. Some don't see the devil as evil at all, simply a symbol of rebelion. As someone who lives outside of society's conventions and lives for having fun. Weather or not that's a bad thing is up to the person. Some see the devil as a symbol of chaos. Really, it's up to interpretatio.

I wonder what all the actors are doing at the present time.

Morena's recently had a reocouring part on the O.C. Nathan is staring in the thriller/horor films "Slither" and "White Noise 2". Jewel I've heard played an alien on Stargate SG1 recently. Last time I saw Adam, he played a villain on "Bones".

Great news about Serenity being profitable. I should buy more dvds and dish 'em out!

Now that it's made a profit, Universal may consider a sequel. And, statistically speaking, sequels make more than the origional film.

I liked the death of Wash from a storytelling point of view. The greatness of his character lends more to the emotional scope of both the viewer and the characters involved. The only bad thing is that the sequel will prolly have a sub-par replacement.

Maybe. Way I see it, it would be cool, if things are continued through a new movie or a new series, to have Zoe seeing Wash from time to time, and wondering if she's going crazy.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Did anyone notice the mistake in War Stories? When Mal's ear that was cut off changed sides of his head a few times, LOL. Great episode though. And i was sorry to see what happened to both Book and Wash. But i think i would have been the same if any character had been killed off.

Oh and hey Lexcorp, how you been?

[LexCorp]

That was Tudyk? Kick ass.

Yep they based the face on him to.

[LexCorp]

Did anyone notice the mistake in War Stories? When Mal's ear that was cut off changed sides of his head a few times, LOL. Great episode though. And i was sorry to see what happened to both Book and Wash. But i think i would have been the same if any character had been killed off.

Oh and hey Lexcorp, how you been?

I did not notice dude. I am great. Doing fine now that I am back here again. You?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I did not notice dude. I am great. Doing fine now that I am back here again. You?

So-so just like anyone else really Lex

Did anyone also notice that one of the first Reaver ships through the Ion cloud after Serenity is the one that chases them in the pilot episode. I noticed after about 5 times of watching it.

[LexCorp]

So-so just like anyone else really Lex

Did anyone also notice that one of the first Reaver ships through the Ion cloud after Serenity is the one that chases them in the pilot episode. I noticed after about 5 times of watching it.

No but I will check that out. Back for revenge haha! Anyone notice Mal (Nathans) work in "2 guys a girl and a pizza place"?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Is that a movie Lex? never heard of it.

[LexCorp]

Is that a movie Lex? never heard of it.

TV show. He won an award for it actualy an emmy I think. Was low key but ran longer than FireFly. Google search dude!! lol

[The Question]

He also played the jerk boyfreind in "blast from the past". He had, like, five or six lines.

[LexCorp]

He gets around. :eek:

[Danger Mouse]

Forgive me for the digression, but I just need to tell you. I got bored last night, so I put my Independence Day DVD on. All throughout the movie I kept thinking to myself "Man, that Major Mitchell looks soooooo familiar..."

[LexCorp]

Jayne (young Adam Baldwin) was in Preadtor 2. :o

I need to watch Independence Day again. :eek:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

In ID4 he's just an army guy, but he gets a few lines, I think in Predator 2 he gets like 2 lines.

[LexCorp]

Zoe has like a bit part in the Matrix Reloaded.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah, she is supposed to be the wife of Dozer from the first movie.

[LexCorp]

Yeah, she is supposed to be the wife of Dozer from the first movie.

Yep that was it. Has anyone seen Inara in anything else?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I believe she has been in The O.C a few times as a recurring character, but i dont watch the show so i dont know how much she was in it.

[LexCorp]

I believe she has been in The O.C a few times as a recurring character, but i dont watch the show so i dont know how much she was in it.

Really I would be happy for her if I liked the OC. I do not like that show I have watched a lot of it to know that I do not like it!

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I've never tried it, has some hot girls though. I'm hoping Morena is cast as Wonder Woman in Joss's film.

[LexCorp]

I've never tried it, has some hot girls though. I'm hoping Morena is cast as Wonder Woman in Joss's film.

Yeah if she got in to fighting shape she would rock. She has that princess type thing going on.

[The Question]

Why is everyone refering to the actors by the names of the characters?

[LexCorp]

Why is everyone refering to the actors by the names of the characters?

We love Serenity. They no longer have real names!

[The Question]

I think that's a bit much, don't you?

[LexCorp]

I think that's a bit much, don't you?

Oh c'mon dude it's just plain lazyness. Relax

[The Question]

I'm perfectly relaxed.

[LexCorp]

I'm perfectly relaxed.

OK cool.....happy faces!!! :)

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, normally if i dont know an actor's real name, i'll use his/her character name until i find out, maybe thats why.

[LexCorp]

Well, normally if i dont know an actor's real name, i'll use his/her character name until i find out, maybe thats why.

That is correct...it's what I do sir.

[pyromaniac]

Okay, that's just spliting hairs. For all intents and purposes, the first evil is the devil.


Mm. Did you say it dr did Joss & Co. say it?

I just don't recall it, is all.

Adam Baldwin is in Poseidon and was also in The Last Samurai.

What the hell has Ron Glass been up to? Out of everyone, there's been no news on him so far.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Adam Baldwin wasnt in Last Samurai, were di you get that from Pyro?

[Mr. Credible]

because that one guy in the Last Samurai (the bad guy in the 6th Day, forget his name) looks just like the Baldwin in question... that's my guess, anyway.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

because that one guy in the Last Samurai (the bad guy in the 6th Day, forget his name) looks just like the Baldwin in question... that's my guess, anyway.

He looks similarish, thats about it.

[The Question]

Mm. Did you say it dr did Joss & Co. say it?

I just don't recall it, is all.

No one said it. I'm just saying, the first evil is basically the devil. Or the Buffyverse version of the devil.

What the hell has Ron Glass been up to? Out of everyone, there's been no news on him so far.

I don't know. He was on some rather popular TV show back in the 70s, so maybe he's got enough money stored uyp so he doesn't need as much work.

[LexCorp]

No one said it. I'm just saying, the first evil is basically the devil. Or the Buffyverse version of the devil.

No I am the Buffy fan of ages and the first is a step up from the Devil. That show and Angel is my master show.

As for Ron Glass did anyone watch Teen Angel????

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

In real life life Ron seems like a great guy to go and have a drink with, he's always laughing on the extra's.

[LexCorp]

In real life life Ron seems like a great guy to go and have a drink with, he's always laughing on the extra's.

Yeah a very laid back dude....

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah a very laid back dude....

Yeah, constantly laughing, i like people like that.

[LexCorp]

Yeah, constantly laughing, i like people like that.

or constantly laughing at NateGray???? :eek:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

or constantly laughing at NateGray???? :eek:

Ha ha, funny thing is i WAS laughing at him. He didnt offend me in the slightest, he's gone now anyway by the looks of things, ha ha.

[LexCorp]

Yes back to bed or some such activity.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yes back to bed or some such activity.

Yeah, i dont usually get into arguments on here, i just thought his reasons for disliking Kong were stupid.

[LexCorp]

Yeah, i dont usually get into arguments on here, i just thought his reasons for disliking Kong were stupid.

I try not to argue also but he was a bit crazy....

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I try not to argue also but he was a bit crazy....

Yeah, he tried to bring everyone into it! LOL.

Anyway, notice the Reaver ship from the pilot in Serenity yet?

[LexCorp]

Yeah, he tried to bring everyone into it! LOL.

Anyway, notice the Reaver ship from the pilot in Serenity yet?

Not yet but I will get round to it... You seen Teen Angel? Ron Glass played a giant heaven head...

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

No never saw it. I dont really watch T.V, only got into Firefly from the DVD

[LexCorp]

No never saw it. I dont really watch T.V, only got into Firefly from the DVD

TV rules. Hey you watch all of Buffy and Angel??? That was my fav show when I was growing up.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Never watched either of them, just couldnt get into them for some reason.

[LexCorp]

Never watched either of them, just couldnt get into them for some reason.

Darn it was Joss at his younger prime.......

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Oh well, i did try to get into them but just couldnt. I'm out for the night any Lex, c u soon.

[NateGray]

Ha ha, funny thing is i WAS laughing at him. He didnt offend me in the slightest, he's gone now anyway by the looks of things, ha ha.

Ha ha very funny punk boy

[NateGray]

or constantly laughing at NateGray???? :eek:

Yep you just lost that joking this ******* this is a direct atack ********
and for no reason other than you and your butt buddy fagmon think you are funny

[NateGray]

How many threads you two jerkoffs want locked because you just feel the need to insult me.

[LexCorp]

Yep you just lost that joking this ******* this is a direct atack ********
and for no reason other than you and your butt buddy fagmon think you are funny

Dude relax I love you also.....take it in your stride buddy....smile...:)

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Nategray, if your not here to talk about Serenity or its sequels, dont bother coming in.

[LexCorp]

Nategray, if your not here to talk about Serenity or its sequels, dont bother coming in.

****ing true!!! :up:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Has anyone signed up for that Serenity Day on June 23rd?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I cant stop watching the movie and the series, but i try and get people to watch it and they just wont listen. People just think i'm talking about something crap.

[zer00]

Has anyone signed up for that Serenity Day on June 23rd?
I would rather feel the icy hot sting of the teeth of a chainsaw slowly ripping through my flesh.

[CConn]

Has anyone signed up for that Serenity Day on June 23rd?No. However, I am considering giving one or two DVDs worth of money to a charity on that day. I figure it would be money much better spent. I'm sure the children at the AIDS clinic wished you felt the same way.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

No. However, I am considering giving one or two DVDs worth of money to a charity on that day. I figure it would be money much better spent. I'm sure the children at the AIDS clinic wished you felt the same way.

I didnt say I would be doing it did i, and i give to charity every week. Dont judge me when you dont know me, or what even i was going to say to someone who did sign up.

[THE WIDDLER]

I would rather feel the icy hot sting of the teeth of a chainsaw slowly ripping through my flesh.
and all of those children at the clinic will feel that sting as their legs are sawed off when their diabites goes uncurred

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

If you guys dont like the movie, why are you here?

[zer00]

If you guys dont like the movie, why are you here?

Because this isn't Nazi Germany.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Because this isn't Nazi Germany.

Someone is sarcastic. No, its just that if i dont like a movie much, i wont get involved in a thread about it.

[zer00]

Someone is sarcastic. No, its just that if i dont like a movie much, i wont get involved in a thread about it.

Yes well it also doesn't rain marshmellows and gold tits but I life goes on.

[CConn]

If you guys dont like the movie, why are you here?Oh, I liked the movie fine, I just depise fanboys, over appreciation, analyzation, or fixation on any one thing.

Obviously this makes me having 37,700 posts on this site quite the irony.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Oh, I liked the movie fine, I just depise fanboys, over appreciation, analyzation, or fixation on any one thing.

Obviously this makes me having 37,700 posts on this site quite the irony.

Ha ha true. I havent signed up for the thing myself and dont intend to, i might buy extra copies but they would only be for my brothers birthday's.

[The Question]

I guess I can respect people's perseverance on the issue, but I'm not buying extra copies.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

As i said before i might buy one or two, but i just dont have the money to be buying lots of copies.