5.20 - Fade (Spoilers)

[KalKai]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm


Chloe & Clark Discuss Lana & Lex
- Chloe tells Clark that when he let Lana go, he gave up the right to get involved in her life. Clark is worried that Lana will get hurt. Chloe tells Clark that it was Lana's decision to be with Lex and Clark will have to deal with that.
Clark Gets A Visitor
- A young man named Graham Garrett whose life has been saved by Clark comes to visit. He walks in on Clark in the loft, right after Clark has an angry rage that results in the destruction of his telescope and a framed photo of Lana. Clark is visibly affected and angry over his breakup with Lana.
- When Graham and Clark met, Clark had a press pass around his neck, which is how Graham knew his name and where to find him. He wants to pay Clark back, and buys him a plasma TV flat screen. Great shades of Lex from the Smallville pilot!
- Graham invites Clark to hang out, and Clark catched up with him at a party in Metropolis. Graham reveals his date - a girl he met at the Kent Farm - Lois.
Lois's New Job
- A line is said which reveals that Lois is Martha's new Chief of Staff. Clark threatens to tell Martha that her "underage chief of staff is boozing it up in Metropolis."
Graham's Surprise
- Graham arranges for Clark to meet a woman named Gia who bears an uncanny resemblance to Lana. "Graham told me to make this a night you'll never forget," she tells him. She says "the tab's been paid," so apparently she's a woman of the night. HoYay alert! Of course Clark suggests that it must be a mistake.
What Happened To Lex?
- Something bad has happened to Lex, and a "dark-haired man, about six feet tall" is the one who did it. Lana and Clark talk about it, and Lana says she's going back inside, because "someone should be with him when he wakes up."
- The reason Lex was attacked may have something to do with Graham's "debt" to Clark.
Why "Fade?"
- The episode has a meteor freak with the power to turn him (or herself) invisible. This person knows about meteor rocks, grew up in Smallville, and may have a clue about Clark's secret. Whoever this person is, they aren't showing up in Chloe's "Wall of Weird" database at all.

[user123456789]

whoa....

[jusblaze21]

Sounds Interesting

[Serene]

Casting sides:
http://www.nowcasting.com/sides/Episodic/SMALLVILLE/Fade/

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm


Chloe & Clark Discuss Lana & Lex
- Chloe tells Clark that when he let Lana go, he gave up the right to get involved in her life. Clark is worried that Lana will get hurt. Chloe tells Clark that it was Lana's decision to be with Lex and Clark will have to deal with that.
Clark Gets A Visitor
- A young man named Graham Garrett whose life has been saved by Clark comes to visit. He walks in on Clark in the loft, right after Clark has an angry rage that results in the destruction of his telescope and a framed photo of Lana. Clark is visibly affected and angry over his breakup with Lana.
- When Graham and Clark met, Clark had a press pass around his neck, which is how Graham knew his name and where to find him. He wants to pay Clark back, and buys him a plasma TV flat screen. Great shades of Lex from the Smallville pilot!
- Graham invites Clark to hang out, and Clark catched up with him at a party in Metropolis. Graham reveals his date - a girl he met at the Kent Farm - Lois.
Lois's New Job
- A line is said which reveals that Lois is Martha's new Chief of Staff. Clark threatens to tell Martha that her "underage chief of staff is boozing it up in Metropolis."
Graham's Surprise
- Graham arranges for Clark to meet a woman named Gia who bears an uncanny resemblance to Lana. "Graham told me to make this a night you'll never forget," she tells him. She says "the tab's been paid," so apparently she's a woman of the night. HoYay alert! Of course Clark suggests that it must be a mistake.
What Happened To Lex?
- Something bad has happened to Lex, and a "dark-haired man, about six feet tall" is the one who did it. Lana and Clark talk about it, and Lana says she's going back inside, because "someone should be with him when he wakes up."
- The reason Lex was attacked may have something to do with Graham's "debt" to Clark.
Why "Fade?"
- The episode has a meteor freak with the power to turn him (or herself) invisible. This person knows about meteor rocks, grew up in Smallville, and may have a clue about Clark's secret. Whoever this person is, they aren't showing up in Chloe's "Wall of Weird" database at all.

sounds Intresting

[triplet]

Yeah, it does.... invisibility is an invaluable ability for a hit man to have.

Funny...

[Kane]

Yessss. Another Meteor Freak. *high five*

[Red]

Interesting. Wasn't there an invisibility freak of the week back in season 1.

[Morg]

Interesting. Wasn't there an invisibility freak of the week back in season 1.


yeah, some kid had some sort of kryponite goop that made him invisible

[NHawk19]

Boy its like the rest of the season never happened. Clark is still yearning after Lana, Chloe is still in the middle and SV gives way to another freak in Kansas.

Please tell me they figure out what to do with Lois before they turn her into another Lana.

[Kaboom]

Yessss. Another Meteor Freak. *high five*

*here*........siiiiiiiiiike.

[Red]

Boy its like the rest of the season never happened. Clark is still yearning after Lana, Chloe is still in the middle and SV gives way to another freak in Kansas.

Please tell me they figure out what to do with Lois before they turn her into another Lana.

Its doesn't mention anything about Chloe being in the middle?

[avidreader]

Chloe & Clark Discuss Lana & Lex
- Chloe tells Clark that when he let Lana go, he gave up the right to get involved in her life. Clark is worried that Lana will get hurt. Chloe tells Clark that it was Lana's decision to be with Lex and Clark will have to deal with that.


I'm not too sure about Chloe's response here.

I think Clark, as an ex-boyfriend, would come off sounding like he is acting out of jealousy, but I definitely think Chloe, as Lana's best girlfriend, should tell her all about Lex's nefarious activities.

____________________

Okay, I just read those sides. What is Lana hiding?

Could she really have hooked up with Lex just to find out what he's up to? Very curious.

[The Incredible Hulk]

yeah, some kid had some sort of kryponite goop that made him invisible

It was the 2nd season I believe, and it was the epsiode with the kryptonite tattoos with the other kid from Home Improvement, I think it was called "Shimmer."

[GothicPowerMix1]

Boy its like the rest of the season never happened. Clark is still yearning after Lana, Chloe is still in the middle and SV gives way to another freak in Kansas.

Please tell me they figure out what to do with Lois before they turn her into another Lana.

Chloe is right though. Clark has to live with the fact Lana chose to move on away from Clark who is again doing nothing but lie to her. You would think Clark would understand that by now especially after how Victor was with his Girlfriend.

[avidreader]

It was the 2nd season I believe, and it was the epsiode with the kryptonite tattoos with the other kid from Home Improvement, I think it was called "Shimmer."

LOL!

Shimmer was Season 1. The boy that used the rose petals to make himself invisible.

The episode with the boy from Home Improvement was called Witness. And he sniffed kryptonite to give him extra strength. Season 2

The tatoos episode was Kinetic which involved Whitney. Season 1

[GothicPowerMix1]

All I know is if Clark is still going to be all pissy about breaking up with Lana then Clark still has alot of growing up to do. Yes I know anyone would be upset over loosing someone but it should be obvious to Clark by now with why Lana leaves him. Clark is no man yet

[The Incredible Hulk]

of course not, he's just as dumb as every other 18 year old, in that sense atleast.

[The Incredible Hulk]

LOL!

Shimmer was Season 1. The boy that used the rose petals to make himself invisible.

The episode with the boy from Home Improvement was called Witness. And he sniffed kryptonite to give him extra strength. Season 2

The tatoos episode was Kinetic which involved Whitney. Season 1

wow, I was REALLY screwed up. I guess that's what working 15 hour days all week will due to you...... For some reason I was confusing the Whiteny kryptonite tatttoo episode with the one with super strength home improvement guy? Gotta keep my blonde jocks straight... :)

[GothicPowerMix1]

of course not, he's just as dumb as every other 18 year old, in that sense atleast.

In this sense this is pretty much the one time I dont blame Lana for anything with her choices. She has every right to leave the boyfriend who does nothing but lie to her constantly. Sure theres a reason behind it but any girl would get sick of the lying. Clark needs to wake up & smell the coffee.

[celldog]

Yet another useless filler episode!! :mad: :down

[avidreader]

In this sense this is pretty much the one time I dont blame Lana for anything with her choices. She has every right to leave the boyfriend who does nothing but lie to her constantly. Sure theres a reason behind it but any girl would get sick of the lying. Clark needs to wake up & smell the coffee.

The only thing with that is, that its Clark that broke it off with Lana because he knows how much keeping his secret is hurting her.

Just because he does this, doesnt mean that his feelings for her just go away.

I think Lana's up to something though. All isnt as it seems.

[GothicPowerMix1]

I think Lana's up to something though. All isnt as it seems.

If you ask me she is simply using Lex to find out Clarks Secret. Because if Lex finds out she knows Lex will tell her.

[avidreader]

Gotta keep my blonde jocks straight... :)

I dont know about here, but in Aussie Land, jocks are men's underwear. When you apply that meaning to what you just said, very funny. :D

[avidreader]

If you ask me she is simply using Lex to find out Clarks Secret. Because if Lex finds out she knows Lex will tell her.

I think the episode Void, is leaving a very big void in the storyline.

[GothicPowerMix1]

I think the episode Void, is leaving a very big void in the storyline.

Well that is the Episode where Braniac comes back isnt it ? Braniac will no doubt use the Ship & knowing Clarks Secret as a barganing thing to get Lex to help him

[avidreader]

Well that is the Episode where Braniac comes back isnt it ? Braniac will no doubt use the Ship & knowing Clarks Secret as a barganing thing to get Lex to help him

Brainiac comes back in Hypnotic.

[MJZ]

Chloe tells Clark that it was Lana's decision to be with Lex and Clark will have to deal with that.


Well that isn't cool at all. :( :mad:

[avidreader]

Well that isn't cool at all. :( :mad:

I think Chloe might be in on whatever it is that Lana is up to.

[Serene]

I think Lana's up to something though. All isnt as it seems.

I really hope you're right, avid. But I'm just not so sure that Lana's being with Lex, at least initially, is because of any "plan" on her part. I think it maybe will end up that way, with her staying with him to get more information after she realizes that he's up to No Good.. but initially, it doesn't seem so far-fetched that she would turn to Lex. The guy has always been there for her. If you watch their scenes together in most of the eps of this season, they've made a point of Lex "being there" for her and maybe more importantly.. letting her in and not keeping secrets from her. At least that's what he tells her.

Clark breaking it off with Lana is going to devastate her (and rightly so! ;) ) and Lex will be there saying all the right things to comfort her. He's a smooth talker.. and Lana is gullible to him. She's not stupid though, and at some point she will discover Lex's true nature, just as Lionel predicted in Splinter.

[avidreader]

I really hope you're right, avid. But I'm just not so sure that Lana's being with Lex, at least initially, is because of any "plan" on her part. I think it maybe will end up that way, with her staying with him to get more information after she realizes that he's up to No Good.. but initially, it doesn't seem so far-fetched that she would turn to Lex. The guy has always been there for her. If you watch their scenes together in most of the eps of this season, they've made a point of Lex "being there" for her and maybe more importantly.. letting her in and not keeping secrets from her. At least that's what he tells her.

I agree. She will initially turn to him for comfort, but I think similar to what we've seen with Jonathan and Clark in the new trailer, there will be a Lana with her parents scene as well. Perhaps finding out more of her destiny in all this.

If you read those casting sides, which I presume you did, it says that Lana cant face Clark because of the lie she is keeping from him.

Clark breaking it off with Lana is going to devastate her (and rightly so! ;) ) and Lex will be there saying all the right things to comfort her. He's a smooth talker.. and Lana is gullible to him. She's not stupid though, and at some point she will discover Lex's true nature, just as Lionel predicted in Splinter.

Watching Splinter again last night, restored some faith in me and I dont think they will have Lana be madly in love with Lex, as we've been steered to think.

[Serene]

If you read those casting sides, which I presume you did, it says that Lana cant face Clark because of the lie she is keeping from him.

I just re-read them. I think that the "lie" is keeping the information from him that she subsequently tells him. She says, "Clark, I didn't tell you everything...(covering) One of Lex's guards said the guy who did this was a dark-haired man, about six feet tall. He was wearing a black trench coat."

Maybe I'm just reading it out of context, but it seems like that is the secret they are referring to.

Watching Splinter again last night, restored some faith in me and I dont think they will have Lana be madly in love with Lex, as we've been steered to think.

Oh, I never thought she'd be madly in love with him. After Clark turns her away, I think she will make the decision to give becoming more than just friends a try, but I don't think it will be successful. It's too soon after Clark (and we know it's physically impossible for anyone to stop loving Clark!), and besides.. Lex is a bad guy, or will be.

[KalKai]

This could actually be the Martian Manhunter episode, I know nothing about Martian Manhunter but some people are saying it could be him.

From the TWoP Forums:

Garett Graham, the FOTW, mentions a couple of times that he is a "head hunter" - that he tracks people down for large sums of money. That's why Clark gets the idea that he's a bad guy. Add to the "head hunter" mentions 1) the interest in Nois, 2) he's untraceable, and 3) possibly hinting he can read minds, and I'd say they decided to give Martian Manhunter his own episode instead of making him the sheriff. And they gave him invisibility as a power - which I guess fits with the ability to control your appearance.

Garett is a head hunter and he gets paid a lot of money to find people, but it's unclear who he is tracking in the episode. The two situations may be connected.

In the comics, Martian Manhunter has been both a Detective in the police force, and later a private detective, so that would loosely tie into the head hunter thing. There was also made mention that he kept an eye on Clark as a baby in Smallville, so it would actually fit for him to be on the show, believe it or not. Usually, he goes by the identity of John Jones, but he's been known to take others.

[avidreader]

I just re-read them. I think that the "lie" is keeping the information from him that she subsequently tells him. She says, "Clark, I didn't tell you everything...(covering) One of Lex's guards said the guy who did this was a dark-haired man, about six feet tall. He was wearing a black trench coat."

Maybe I'm just reading it out of context, but it seems like that is the secret they are referring to.

I dont think its that. She tells him that as a bit of an afterthought. I more than got the impression that she is keeping something from him and its hurting her to do it.

This could actually be the Martian Manhunter episode, I know nothing about Martian Manhunter but some people are saying it could be him.


I actually wondered that, but knowing nothing of the guy's history I wasnt sure.

[The Caped Knight]

Please tell me they figure out what to do with Lois before they turn her into another Lana.

I hope found something ,because I don't want to see Lois turn into lana .

[MJZ]

I think Chloe might be in on whatever it is that Lana is up to.

Hmm, I hadn't thought of that. That kiss in the trailer looked pretty contrived too.

Although I'm with Serene on this one.

[The Incredible Hulk]

This could actually be the Martian Manhunter episode, I know nothing about Martian Manhunter but some people are saying it could be him.

From the TWoP Forums:

Garett Graham, the FOTW, mentions a couple of times that he is a "head hunter" - that he tracks people down for large sums of money. That's why Clark gets the idea that he's a bad guy. Add to the "head hunter" mentions 1) the interest in Nois, 2) he's untraceable, and 3) possibly hinting he can read minds, and I'd say they decided to give Martian Manhunter his own episode instead of making him the sheriff. And they gave him invisibility as a power - which I guess fits with the ability to control your appearance.

Garett is a head hunter and he gets paid a lot of money to find people, but it's unclear who he is tracking in the episode. The two situations may be connected.

In the comics, Martian Manhunter has been both a Detective in the police force, and later a private detective, so that would loosely tie into the head hunter thing. There was also made mention that he kept an eye on Clark as a baby in Smallville, so it would actually fit for him to be on the show, believe it or not. Usually, he goes by the identity of John Jones, but he's been known to take others.

unless his name is "John Jones" that would be kinda lame

[Kane]

It wont be Martian Manhunter, otherwise G+M would have done press for it already. They live for ratings.

[LEX]

Sounds like a filler, but hope not. Glad to know Clark is finally breaking it off with Lana. Clark deserves to be with either Chloe or Lois. Lana gets on my nerve.

Another invisible FOTW? Sounds interesting. I can't wait. This four-week delay needs to go away fast, this is annoying. :o

[KalKai]

The WB's Official Description: "Fade"
CLARK CONFRONTS LANA ABOUT HER RELATIONSHIP WITH LEX — While in Metropolis, Clark (Tom Welling) saves the life of a stranger named Graham., who vows to repay Clark for his kindness. Unfortunately, Graham happens to be a hit man with the ability to cloak himself, and he decides killing Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) would be the best gift he could give Clark. Meanwhile, Clark confronts Lana (Kristin Kreuk) about her relationship with Lex. Erica Durance, Allison Mack, John Glover and Annette O’Toole also star. The episode was written by Al Septien & Turi Meyer and directed by Terrence O’Hara (#2T6420).

[Kane]

Jeez. Another person who wants to kill Lex...w t f

At least the description sounds better than the early spoilers.

[Scooter]

Lex is a douche. I'd wanna kill him too.

[Kaboom]

maybe smallville should change its theme song from "save me" to "freak of the week" by Marvelous 3.

[GothicPowerMix1]

How does he know that Clark is not that found of Lex anyway ? Oh I so expect him to say when he confront's Lex "Clark Kent want's you dead" or something like that. I guess Chloe eventually gives Clark the heads up about Lana & Lex.

[Super_Ludacris]

Looks interesting

[Serene]

K-Site has HD caps from the trailer posted. I'm too lazy to copy/paste them here right now ;).

The caps show the hitman guy holding green-K and knocking out Clark. I wonder just how much he knows about Clark? He might be a meteor freak himself, particularly if you look at the one cap that shows him "mid-fade."

Lex in the hospital.. Maybe he gets his new "powers" in this episode?

[avidreader]

K-Site has HD caps from the trailer posted. I'm too lazy to copy/paste them here right now ;).

The caps show the hitman guy holding green-K and knocking out Clark. I wonder just how much he knows about Clark? He might be a meteor freak himself, particularly if you look at the one cap that shows him "mid-fade."

Lex in the hospital.. Maybe he gets his new "powers" in this episode?

I think there are some very strange things happening in this episode.

[MJZ]

I think there are some very strange things happening in this episode.

Actually I'm gonna do a 360 and say this looks like it might be pretty good. I'd forgotten about the "Clark confronting Lana" stuff.

[avidreader]

Actually I'm gonna do a 360 and say this looks like it might be pretty good. I'd forgotten about the "Clark confronting Lana" stuff.

I think Lana walks in on Clark in the Dorm Room, while he's reading those Fine/Government files that Lex gave her.

[KikiDee]

I think there are some very strange things happening in this episode.

Has it been confirmed that this guy is a krypto freak? I thought this episode was the one based on the martian bounty hunter. That would explain his ability to fade and how he knows about Clark's weakness.

I think it looks pretty interesting. Then again I'm very easily entertained when it comes to Clark Kent and his band of merry minions.:)

[jr24tw]

In another trailer shown during Charmed last night (haven't seen it myself) it seems like Lex and Lana will kiss in his mansion and Clark sees them this time.

So much for Lana's "let's be friends friends Lex". I love Lana but this whole Lexana romance thing or whatever it is is disgusting.

[AgentPat]

In another trailer shown during Charmed last night (haven't seen it myself) it seems like Lex and Lana will kiss in his mansion and Clark sees them this time.

So much for Lana's "let's be friends friends Lex". I love Lana but this whole Lexana romance thing or whatever it is is disgusting.Lex and Lana having a relationship doesn't bother me. Clark knowing about it does. He wants her to be happy and safe, but in his eyes, she won't be either while she's with Lex. It's a recipe for disaster for all concerned.

Should be interesting.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Clark is not happy about Lana being with Lex because he knows how Lex really is & how dangerous Lex can be & obviously Clark knows about alot of stuff that Lex is responsible for that Lana still has no clue about. Clark definitely learned a thing or Two from Jonathan when it comes to Luthors

[KalKai]

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[GothicPowerMix1]

Now thats a good shot to manip in the Suit

[triplet]

Trailer's online now...

http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/thewb/us/content/Qe1HFT_SM521-trl_qt_300.mov

[jr24tw]

What I don't get is in the other trailer Clark yelled at Chloe for letting Lexana happen. What's wrong with this boy?

He could have told Lana all about Lex's lies and doings...but he didn't. He broke her heart and broke up with her. So he basically shooved her into the arms of the enemy. Why yell at Chloe?

[Red]

Trailer's online now...

http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/thewb/us/content/Qe1HFT_SM521-trl_qt_300.mov

That was somewhat confussing :confused:

[triplet]

Why was it confusing? I think it looks like a great episode!

I wish someone else would put up the other version of the trailer... Maybe I need to start tivoing Charmed so I can cap the alternate trailers.

I'd love to see Clark yelling at Chloe... poor Chloe. She's definitely being put into an awful position by Clark and Lana both, no doubt.

[green]

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Ok this outfit is getting really old now.:mad:

I know he's a farm boy and all but he's been wearing that darn red coat and blue t-shirt forever. Can Martha take him to Walmart already.:(

[blksuperman2]

Ok this outfit is getting really old now.:mad:

I know he's a farm boy and all but he's been wearing that darn red coat and blue t-shirt forever. Can Martha take him to Walmart already.:(

Well anytime he has to do something :supes: like he has to wear his primary colors. It just wouldn't look as cool if he was wearing flanel or plaid.

[triplet]

Ok this outfit is getting really old now.:mad:

I know he's a farm boy and all but he's been wearing that darn red coat and blue t-shirt forever. Can Martha take him to Walmart already.:(

Well, Walmart doesn't carry Carhartt jackets.... ;)

I guess they could get a different brand but I like the red jacket with the blue t-shirt: It's his psuedo-superman outfit...

:supes:

:up: :D

[green]

Well, Walmart doesn't carry Carhartt jackets.... ;)

I guess they could get a different brand but I like the red jacket with the blue t-shirt: It's his psuedo-superman outfit...

:supes:

:up: :D


D'oh.
You know Ive never even been in a Walmart:eek:

I dont mind him wearing red and blue, actually I think it's kinda cool they do it:up:
It just seems like he wears the same darn outfit every week, they need to mix it up a bit. It's getting boring.:(

[triplet]

D'oh.
You know Ive never even been in a Walmart:eek:

I dont mind him wearing red and blue, actually I think it's kinda cool they do it:up:
It just seems like he wears the same darn outfit every week, they need to mix it up a bit. It's getting boring.:(

True...Carhartt doesn't make primary colored red and blue jackets anymore, I don't think.

They have distressed blue denim and some rust red, but no primary colored ones...

Maybe they should... that jacket is actually looking a little worn.

[Serene]

Lex and Lana having a relationship doesn't bother me. Clark knowing about it does. He wants her to be happy and safe, but in his eyes, she won't be either while she's with Lex. It's a recipe for disaster for all concerned.

Should be interesting.

I agree. I'm still finding it interesting. I want to hear more conversation between them about it too. I do think that Lex sincerely wants Lana, his Lexmas adventures prove that, but how sincere is she, really? She must be on the rebound, at least a bit. But I guess I can also understand how she's enjoying the comfort and security that Lex is offering her so far, not to mention the honesty that she *thinks* he's giving her. It's not inconceivable that she wants it to work with him.. it's just going to be very impractical once he shows his true colors.

He may want Lana, but I think Lex wants power more, and at some point he will make that choice and she will realize his true nature.

I wasn't sure I'd like the Lexana, but I'm really liking the change of pace for both of them.

[avidreader]

I dunno I'm still confused about Lana's motivations when I read this part of the script.

Clark recognises Lana's pain and softens, knowing the woman he loves is really suffering.

Clark: I wish there was something I could do

Seeing Clark's comforting eyes, the lie eats away at Lana. She cant take it anymore.

Lana: I'm going back inside. Someone should be with him when he wakes up.

Clark nods and watches her leave him to go to Lex. Before Lana disappears into the room, she turns, still struggling with her guilt.

Lana: I didnt tell you everything (covering) ............

And in that new trailer, why does Chloe say "I promised Lana I wouldnt tell you".

If Lana is in love with Lex or has feelings why would she care if Chloe told Clark.

I guess there's a part of me that's just hoping that Lana wont betray Clark but I still think that something is not sitting right with the Lexana relationship.

[Super_Ludacris]

*sings*

It's called WB angssssst.....

[Serene]

I guess there's a part of me that's just hoping that Lana wont betray Clark but I still think that something is not sitting right with the Lexana relationship.

But avid... how can she betray Clark when they are no longer a couple? He told her in no uncertain terms that he didn't want her anymore, and she has to take that at face value and move on.

I was originally hoping she was playing Lex too, but now I've kinda come around to the idea that she is just misplacing her love (once again). You're right, there is something unsettling about it, but that's part of the fun of watching, I think. I think they are playing this out really well.

Sure.. I talk all big and accepting, then I watch this trailer from tv.com and I just want to cry, for Clark, and for Lana. :(
Fade - TV.COM (http://www.tv.com/media_player/5067/4/viewer.php&context_type=101&context_id=1718)

[KikiDee]

But avid... how can she betray Clark when they are no longer a couple? He told her in no uncertain terms that he didn't want her anymore, and she has to take that at face value and move on.

I was originally hoping she was playing Lex too, but now I've kinda come around to the idea that she is just misplacing her love (once again). You're right, there is something unsettling about it, but that's part of the fun of watching, I think. I think they are playing this out really well.

Sure.. I talk all big and accepting, then I watch this trailer from tv.com and I just want to cry, for Clark, and for Lana. :(
Fade - TV.COM (http://www.tv.com/media_player/5067/4/viewer.php&context_type=101&context_id=1718)

That was just heartbreaking.:(

[avidreader]

But avid... how can she betray Clark when they are no longer a couple? He told her in no uncertain terms that he didn't want her anymore, and she has to take that at face value and move on.

I was originally hoping she was playing Lex too, but now I've kinda come around to the idea that she is just misplacing her love (once again). You're right, there is something unsettling about it, but that's part of the fun of watching, I think. I think they are playing this out really well.

Sure.. I talk all big and accepting, then I watch this trailer from tv.com and I just want to cry, for Clark, and for Lana. :(
Fade - TV.COM (http://www.tv.com/media_player/5067/4/viewer.php&context_type=101&context_id=1718)

I just watched that trailer, and thought oh my goodness. So sad. :(

I guess what I mean by betraying is that I dont think Clark has kept his feelings about Lex a secret and for Lana to turn to Lex just seems like a betrayal. Like what Chloe suggested. Lana's getting back at Clark.

It hurts.... sniff, sniff... :(

[Serene]

I just watched that trailer, and thought oh my goodness. So sad. :(

:(:(:(

I guess what I mean by betraying is that I dont think Clark has kept his feelings about Lex a secret and for Lana to turn to Lex just seems like a betrayal. Like what Chloe suggested. Lana's getting back at Clark.
So, do you think that Lana is with Lex just to get back at Clark? Hm..I've never considered that. She's never really been portrayed as being that malicious.

I guess I always thought of Lana and Lex as friends, and this is just taking it the next step now that she's single again.

[triplet]

But avid... how can she betray Clark when they are no longer a couple? He told her in no uncertain terms that he didn't want her anymore, and she has to take that at face value and move on.

I was originally hoping she was playing Lex too, but now I've kinda come around to the idea that she is just misplacing her love (once again). You're right, there is something unsettling about it, but that's part of the fun of watching, I think. I think they are playing this out really well.

Sure.. I talk all big and accepting, then I watch this trailer from tv.com and I just want to cry, for Clark, and for Lana. :(
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:( :( :(

So, sad...

[BaK]

it's looks like it's going to get real "complicated"..
(like it already wasn't)
we are heading in direction of "don't know who is hurting who now"..
but could be fun :)

[Brainiac 8]

The look on Clarks face is sadening.:(

It's ok though, Lex gets his in the end....years later.:supes:

[GothicPowerMix1]

Might not take that long Smallville Style

[avidreader]

:(:(:(


So, do you think that Lana is with Lex just to get back at Clark? Hm..I've never considered that. She's never really been portrayed as being that malicious.

Well I hope she's more mature than that. I still just have this feeling that Lana's not in this relationship with Lex out of love.

Martha's words keep echoing in my head, "I hope her hate doesnt drive her to do something we'll all regret".


I guess I always thought of Lana and Lex as friends, and this is just taking it the next step now that she's single again.

But its too soon. If she was with him for that reason then they should have had Clark and Lana remain separated in Reckoning and then the Lexana could have played out its course, 'cause I dont see Lex and Lana remaining in a relationship after the end of this season.

I dunno, my gut instinct is telling me that all is not as it seems.

[MJZ]

"Lexana" is a phase.

Clark gonna whoop his ass.

[Serene]

Well I hope she's more mature than that. I still just have this feeling that Lana's not in this relationship with Lex out of love.
How about, out of desperation? Or simple, rebound?

Do you still think she's playing him?

What I was trying to say earlier is that I like that the lines are unclear at this point. It makes it a lot more fun to watch. :)

[Super_Ludacris]

Yeah I'm liking this Lexana thing

[rumpuso]

Awww....poor Clark. I'll never wrap my mind around Lana's motivations for running to Lex. How she could chose someone who she knows has done questionable things in the past, over Clark who she knows has a heart of gold, is beyond me. So be it, I say. Maybe with this revelation, Clark will realize inside that Lana truly is not the woman for him after all. No more second guessing his decision. He'll keep her safe from Lex, then effectively move on.

[Pixiedust]

Awww....poor Clark. I'll never wrap my mind around Lana's motivations for running to Lex. How she could chose someone who she knows has done questionable things in the past, over Clark who she knows has a heart of gold, is beyond me. So be it, I say. Maybe with this revelation, Clark will realize inside that Lana truly is not the woman for him after all. No more second guessing his decision. He'll keep her safe from Lex, then effectively move on.

Her relationship with Lex could be as simple as her needing to be in a relationship.

Lana has always struck me as the kind of girl who needed to be in a relationship to define who she is. She was Whitney's girlfriend, then Clark's, then there was Adam, then Clark again, then Jason, and then Clark again. Not to mention the Magnetic dude and the JTT's character.

There really are women out there who go from one relationship right into the next without any realistic break because they are insecure and need that to define who they are and I think they have set Lana up to be that type of person. So her jumping right into a relationship with Lex isn't out of character for her at all.

Even though she knows the bad things Lex has done in the past, she still is willing to give Lex a shot because he seems to give her what she has always needed the most and has never gotten from Clark...trust and the truth. It's hard to dispute that has been Lana's mantra for years. Now we know Lex isn't to be trusted as far as I could throw him and that's not far at all, but on the surface he seems to give her what she has always wanted and she desperately wants to believe someone will be honest with her and trust her enough to give her the truth so she is playing right into Lex's hands.

Now I concede that Lana could be playing Lex in order to help Clark, but I think it is much more likely that this is just her need for love, acceptance and someone willing to tell her the truth that she has always needed.

[Serene]

Awww....poor Clark. I'll never wrap my mind around Lana's motivations for running to Lex. How she could chose someone who she knows has done questionable things in the past, over Clark who she knows has a heart of gold, is beyond me. So be it, I say. Maybe with this revelation, Clark will realize inside that Lana truly is not the woman for him after all. No more second guessing his decision. He'll keep her safe from Lex, then effectively move on.

I agree with you that there is no comparison over who the better choice is.. NO comparison. But Clark made it clear that he was no longer an option for her. If he was, she'd still be with him, and not Lex.

Sucks, too. :(

[avidreader]

How about, out of desperation? Or simple, rebound?

Then what she said at the end of Void is meaningless. Because she wasnt going to let herself get into a position of vulnerability again.

Do you still think she's playing him?

If she is, I'm starting to wonder if Lionel could be feeding her some information.

What I was trying to say earlier is that I like that the lines are unclear at this point. It makes it a lot more fun to watch. :)

I definitely agree with you on this one. I like not knowing what her agenda is, it makes her character alot more fun to watch, and even I'll admit she can be a little one dimensional.

I just dont want to see her doing something that intentionally hurts Clark. :( That's not Lana Lang.

[Super_Ludacris]

Thing is knowing the writers (and this is something I suspected even back in Season 1) there probably gravitating for Lana to be like "evil" in her confused state (that is to say turn Anakin on Clark), that might be a feeble attempt at spicing things up but I wouldnt be suprised. So all this talk about it not being in her nature, well considering the spontenuity (sp?) that the writers write with it's no real suprise. In the end it could all just fizzle and flop and she'll be cool with Clark by like mid way during season 6.

[Kane]

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How was that sad? Clark seemed more angry than anything.. This awesome turn of events should have happened a long time ago.

[superboy13]

Now thats a good shot to manip in the Suit
http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/9601/supesflysunset7ut.jpg (http://imageshack.us) =D

Sorry I didn't have any decent Supes photo in that particular position, so I had to create the body

[Brainiac 8]

Her relationship with Lex could be as simple as her needing to be in a relationship.

Lana has always struck me as the kind of girl who needed to be in a relationship to define who she is. She was Whitney's girlfriend, then Clark's, then there was Adam, then Clark again, then Jason, and then Clark again. Not to mention the Magnetic dude and the JTT's character.

There really are women out there who go from one relationship right into the next without any realistic break because they are insecure and need that to define who they are and I think they have set Lana up to be that type of person. So her jumping right into a relationship with Lex isn't out of character for her at all.

Even though she knows the bad things Lex has done in the past, she still is willing to give Lex a shot because he seems to give her what she has always needed the most and has never gotten from Clark...trust and the truth. It's hard to dispute that has been Lana's mantra for years. Now we know Lex isn't to be trusted as far as I could throw him and that's not far at all, but on the surface he seems to give her what she has always wanted and she desperately wants to believe someone will be honest with her and trust her enough to give her the truth so she is playing right into Lex's hands.

Now I concede that Lana could be playing Lex in order to help Clark, but I think it is much more likely that this is just her need for love, acceptance and someone willing to tell her the truth that she has always needed.


If you think about the history of Lana-relationships, she has always had a knack for being drawn to guys who are either: Homicidal, Crazy, Evil, Power Hungry, Un-Dead, Have Wierd Relationships with their Mother, Or Jerky Jockish types.

Her track record is not really that great.:o

[avidreader]

Just reading around a couple of the Smallville Forums, there aint alot of love for this Lexana.

[Super_Ludacris]

And those "forums" would be? Kryptonsite? DTS? Sweet?

[avidreader]

And those "forums" would be? Kryptonsite? DTS? Sweet?

You got it! :up:

I was curious to know what they were thinking and I'm not going back to either. I didnt go to DTS.

I love the show to death, and enjoy speculating on these boards, but they take it all way too seriously for my liking.

Why not just let it play out and see where it goes, rather than trashing it before its even happened. I dont understand that. :confused:

[AgentPat]

Just reading around a couple of the Smallville Forums, there aint alot of love for this Lexana.It's entertaining on one level - Lex is WAY more smooth than Clark and I think the dialog is more crisp between Lana and Lex - but I'd still rather see Lana with Clark personally. Minus the angst, of course. :mad: :p

Short of that, leave Lana with Lex, and get the sparks started between Clark and Lois. :D :up:

[Super_Ludacris]

Oh **** em all, I hope Allison Mack gives them herpes

[avidreader]

It's entertaining on one level - Lex is WAY more smooth than Clark and I think the dialog is more crisp between Lana and Lex - but I'd still rather see Lana with Clark personally. Minus the angst, of course. :mad: :p

I personally think this is what all of this is about.

Clark and Lana have been swimming upstream for 4 1/2 years and cant progress their relationship. Lana said it in Cyborg, "we keep going around and around." Bringing Lex into the equation is going to give them both the opportunity to realise the mistakes that they have been making. Hopefully it is going to help them move forward and give us that real Clark and Lana relationship that we've been waiting for.

Short of that, leave Lana with Lex, and get the sparks started between Clark and Lois. :D :up:

I dont mind seeing an episode set in the future with Clark and Lois but I dont want to see any love relationship in current continuity.

[BaK]

I dont mind seeing an episode set in the future with Clark and Lois but I dont want to see any love relationship in current continuity.
ditto. :up:

[Serene]

Lana has always struck me as the kind of girl who needed to be in a relationship to define who she is. She was Whitney's girlfriend, then Clark's, then there was Adam, then Clark again, then Jason, and then Clark again. Not to mention the Magnetic dude and the JTT's character.

I think it's to be expected that the female lead of the show would have some sort of love interest/relationship issue going on most of the time. If she was a secondary character, or someone who just popped in once in a while, there wouldn't be the time to devote to developing any sort or relationships. This might be more the reason why Chloe was never really given an in-story boyfriend. They'd have to allow more screen time for it.

Lana's choice at this point isn't between Clark and Lex - Clark's not an option - it's between Lex and being alone. As much as I'd prefer for Lana's sake that she chose the "alone" path.. on a very shallow level, I'm liking the Lexana storyline a lot.

Even though she knows the bad things Lex has done in the past, she still is willing to give Lex a shot because he seems to give her what she has always needed the most and has never gotten from Clark...trust and the truth. It's hard to dispute that has been Lana's mantra for years. Now we know Lex isn't to be trusted as far as I could throw him and that's not far at all, but on the surface he seems to give her what she has always wanted and she desperately wants to believe someone will be honest with her and trust her enough to give her the truth so she is playing right into Lex's hands.
I completely agree with that. He's soooo slick, and he knows exactly what buttons to push on her. But even though I do think he's playing her in that way (and maybe more, i.e. Clark) I do think he truly wants her and could love her if he chose the right path. I'm with Lillian on that one. :)

How was that sad? Clark seemed more angry than anything.. This awesome turn of events should have happened a long time ago.
:confused:
You have to be blind not to see the pain in Clark's eyes. Remember, he didn't break up with Lana because he didn't love her anymore. Seeing her with Lex just makes his choice even more painful to bear.

[Serene]

Just reading around a couple of the Smallville Forums, there aint alot of love for this Lexana.

Oh.. there is some.. not so much in big public forums though. And especially not in any Clana-based forums, which isn't surprising, really.

As usual, I fit.. nowhere, in my feelings about this show. :(

[Nautica7mk]

You have to be blind not to see the pain in Clark's eyes. Remember, he didn't break up with Lana because he didn't love her anymore. Seeing her with Lex just makes his choice even more painful to bear.
While I don't doubt that he feels hurt, he looked angrier to me.

[jr24tw]

Honestly I've seen Tom act better before. His look after seeing the kiss and when he confronted Chloe...it actually lacked in emotion. I don't know why but it came across like that. He simply lacked emotion there.

Might be because after months of acting he is just tired. But he lacks passion of any kind in both scenes.

[avidreader]

Honestly I've seen Tom act better before. His look after seeing the kiss and when he confronted Chloe...it actually lacked in emotion. I don't know why but it came across like that. He simply lacked emotion there.

Might be because after months of acting he is just tired. But he lacks passion of any kind in both scenes.

The scene with Chloe is too short to gauge what kind of look he has, but I think the scene after the Lexana kiss is perfect. He looks saddened and a little shocked and needless to say speechless.

Remember this is Clark Kent, he usually hides all those emotions.

[BaK]

Honestly I've seen Tom act better before. His look after seeing the kiss and when he confronted Chloe...it actually lacked in emotion. I don't know why but it came across like that. He simply lacked emotion there.

Might be because after months of acting he is just tired. But he lacks passion of any kind in both scenes.

Lack of emotions, expressionless, no passion - that's Keanu R. for you..
Tom does not have that kind of "awkward void"..

Even when he's hiding his feelings, you can see it if you know "how to watch".. ;)

[Brainiac 8]

Honestly I've seen Tom act better before. His look after seeing the kiss and when he confronted Chloe...it actually lacked in emotion. I don't know why but it came across like that. He simply lacked emotion there.

Might be because after months of acting he is just tired. But he lacks passion of any kind in both scenes.

I don't think he's tiring out at all. He gives a good look of anger/sadness at finding out the woman he loved has shacked up with the man he doesn't trust.

The triangle plot thickens.:eek:

[Kane]

:confused:
You have to be blind not to see the pain in Clark's eyes. Remember, he didn't break up with Lana because he didn't love her anymore. Seeing her with Lex just makes his choice even more painful to bear.

Last time I checked I wasnt blind, but I didnt see any emotion there, just a cold blank stare. Thats usually how he gets before he gets angry, so thats why I assumed he was pretty mad.

[KalKai]

He is angry.. "He walks in on Clark in the loft, right after Clark has an angry rage that results in the destruction of his telescope and a framed photo of Lana. Clark is visibly affected and angry over his breakup with Lana."

[Kane]

Just like how Superman breaks the framed photo of Lois after learning of her and Richard in SR.

[avidreader]

I think Clark's anger stems from the fact that Lana is with Lex, its not the actual breakup of Clark and Lana itself.

[avidreader]

Here's another small trailer.

http://www.citytv.com/vancouver/tvshows_smallville.aspx

[BaK]

pain and anger are very good friends..

[The Caped Knight]

As it stands now, I'm really not looking forward to this episode . But since Lois is in it, and part of The storyline is conneted to "Oracle" & "Vessel" . I'll watch it .

[Serene]

Last time I checked I wasnt blind,
I meant that as more of a generic "you." Sorry if it came off as personally directed.

but I didnt see any emotion there, just a cold blank stare. Thats usually how he gets before he gets angry, so thats why I assumed he was pretty mad.

I think he definitely *gets* angry, but it's anger borne of pain. My heart just breaks for him. I wish we'd had more scenes of Happy Clark, they seem so few and far between the Sad Clark, and SuperheroClark ones.

[rumpuso]

Here's another small trailer.

http://www.citytv.com/vancouver/tvshows_smallville.aspx
What is Clark saying to the hitman with the green k rock? I keep trying to make it out and I can't. The hitman says in reply, "I always do."

[Serene]

What is Clark saying to the hitman with the green k rock? I keep trying to make it out and I can't. The hitman says in reply, "I always do."

"You'll never get away with it."

[rumpuso]

Thanks Serene!

[Kane]

I meant that as more of a generic "you." Sorry if it came off as personally directed.



I think he definitely *gets* angry, but it's anger borne of pain. My heart just breaks for him. I wish we'd had more scenes of Happy Clark, they seem so few and far between the Sad Clark, and SuperheroClark ones.

Dont you think its good though? A step in the right direction. Severing his ties with Lana that dragged him down for so long and finally moving forward. I always felt this should have happened way earlier.

[user123456789]

I think there's more to this Lexana relationship than meets the eye.

Hence Lana's request for Chloe not to tell Clark..

Lana is up to something....

[user123456789]

Wow... major liplock for lexana.

[Serene]

Dont you think its good though? A step in the right direction. Severing his ties with Lana that dragged him down for so long and finally moving forward. I always felt this should have happened way earlier.

This isn't how I ideally would have liked things to have gone with Clark and Lana.. no. If I had my way, they (TPTB/writers.. whoever) would have found a way to make them work as a couple, without the angst, without the constant see-saw, and without their "relationship" being such a negative focus of the show, and dragging things down.

Unlike popular opinion, I don't think being a couple would have killed the show. I don't buy into the "Moonlighting" theory. It can be done: "McMillan and Wife," "Hart to Hart."... hell.. Nick and Nora Charles! But it needs to be written with a proper sense of balance, keeping the focus on Clark, and at the same time not diminishing Lex. Not an easy feat, I realize...

I'd also have Lana be stronger and more involved in helping Clark, as opposed to Chloe being the do-all, go-to girl, all-around savior. Not that I'd get rid of Chloe, she's a great friend for both of them.

I'd still have Clark leave Lana at the end of the series though, through mutual decision. Not because I want that to happen, but because it's the right thing for Superman and his greater calling.

Since none of that will ever happen, :p then yes, I'd rather see them progress in other directions with both characters, and stop tormenting fans that hate the couple, and fans that love the couple.

I hope that, one day, they are able to find their way back to becoming close friends at the least. :(

[MJZ]

I think there's more to this Lexana relationship than meets the eye.

Hence Lana's request for Chloe not to tell Clark..

Lana is up to something....

I'd like to believe that but I doubt that's the case. She ain't that swift.

[user123456789]

I'd like to believe that but I doubt that's the case. She ain't that swift.

You gotta give her some credit though, she researched the first meteor shower and found out a spaceship landed then as well.

[Super_Ludacris]

I mean its pretty understandable why Clark is pissed. You have to have just started watching Smallville to not understand why he would be pissed off (Yeah I'm talking to you clueless muther****ers y'all know who ya are). Even if Clark and Lana arent going out he'll always love her and look out for her in some shape or form. That's his around the way girl, even if there beefing he'll always look out for her. So of course it's gonna mess with him when his other friend turned enemy gets with her. Like duh, it dont matter if anyone says "Superman wouldnt do this, or react like that". He's not that dude yet and even if he was I'm sure it would still piss him off, just like if it was Chloe or Lois with Lex.
Basically...

[avidreader]

You gotta give her some credit though, she researched the first meteor shower and found out a spaceship landed then as well.

I'm with you boyscout. I think Lana is up to something.

The script notes that say the lie is eating away at her. I think she initiates this argument with Clark which then leads them to stop talking to each other, because she cant handle lying to him, knowing that deep down he cares about her so much.

As to what she's up to, I have no idea. :confused:

[Super_Ludacris]

I doubt Lana is up to something though just cause its so hard to envision her at the end revealing to Lex she was tricking him.

[avidreader]

I doubt Lana is up to something though just cause its so hard to envision her at the end revealing to Lex she was tricking him.

I just think its a way of giving Lana a bit more backbone. Its what fans have been screaming that they dont like about the character for all these years.

The thing that would make it interesting about Lana deceiving Lex is to have Lex deceiving Lana as well.

[Super_Ludacris]

Sure, and that would be great but you gotta look at history and say "would she just suddenly switch up like that". And fans will always find a reason to hate Lana. I can hear the excuses now if she did do that (which would be great if she did trick Lex but that's beside the point)

[avidreader]

Sure, and that would be great but you gotta look at history and say "would she just suddenly switch up like that". And fans will always find a reason to hate Lana. I can hear the excuses now if she did do that (which would be great if she did trick Lex but that's beside the point)

I'm just thinking of what she said at the end of Void, about not being put in a place of vulnerability again. That she will be happy NO MATTER WHAT she's searching for.

We all know what she's searching for and maybe she thinks Lex is the only means of getting the answers that she so desperately seeks.

I dont think the fans would scream at her for wanting that. All this time she has been so reactive to any situation that she's put in that it would be a nice mixup for her to start being pro-active.

[BaK]

I'm just thinking of what she said at the end of Void, about not being put in a place of vulnerability again. ...
that can also mean that she somehow knows there will never be someone like Clark in her life again, who can be in position to affect/hurt her so much..
(except for Clark of course)..

Because.. Everything comes from Clark..

I love the line in ongoing Crisis where someone (Lex/Alex) says:
Everything comes from Superman..
:)

[avidreader]

that can also mean that she somehow knows there will never be someone like Clark in her life again, who can be in position to affect/hurt her so much..
(except for Clark of course)..

But doesnt every relationship have the potential to do that? Its all about how you set yourself up.

Now she's gone into a relationship with Lex, knowing full well what he is capable of even if she hasnt been privvy to some of the details. He has the potential to put her in a place where she will be hurt. Which by the way is probably going to happen.

If she's gone into her relationship with Lex thinking that all of his honesty nonsense over the last season is ultruistic, then I'm not going to have alot of sympathy for her and I dont think I'll be alone.

Is that how they want us to view Lana Lang, life long friend of Clark Kent?

Because.. Everything comes from Clark..

More details please. :)

[avidreader]

Here's another small trailer.

http://www.citytv.com/vancouver/tvshows_smallville.aspx

I didnt catch this, but when he says to whoever it is, presumably Chloe, to be quiet he's actually listening for Graham's heart beat.

How cool!

[BaK]

If she's gone into her relationship with Lex thinking that all of his honesty nonsense over the last season is ultruistic, then I'm not going to have alot of sympathy for her and I dont think I'll be alone.
Is that how they want us to view Lana Lang, life long friend of Clark Kent?
More details please. :)
I do not think writers/AM would by any stretch intentionally have her
character assosiated with anything mean, deeply negative, causing
justified hatred..

The whole "hatred" thing is on the "client" side..
(in computer lingo).. Meaning "fans".. The way their "flawed" perception
works and stuff..

So this will be almost like an ultimate challenge, puting her in the
"evil doer lair", upping it to the utmost.. Her "walk on the dark side"..
Of course, she will never come "clean" out of it for "fans" who already
"rationaly" dislike her.. That's a given..

What makes it the most interesting is, that Lex is still "half way to hell",
and will she and how contribute to shaping his further fall..

About "more details" - sorry, can't, that's just umm, too zen to explain.. :)

[rumpuso]

I didnt catch this, but when he says to whoever it is, presumably Chloe, to be quiet he's actually listening for Graham's heart beat.

How cool!
You can hear a heartbeat? I swear, I'm having the most difficult time deciphering this trailer. All I hear is Clark whispering "Quiet" and then turning his head.

[triplet]

You can hear a heartbeat? I swear, I'm having the most difficult time deciphering this trailer. All I hear is Clark whispering "Quiet" and then turning his head.

Yeah, I heard a heartbeat... listen again.

That's a cool catch, avid... :up:

[Serene]

Yeah, I heard a heartbeat... listen again.

That's a cool catch, avid... :up:

Oh, yeah! I didn't notice that before. Avid wins Best Ears in the SHH-SV forum.. for this week. :D

[rumpuso]

Then I win the worst hearing award. I still don't hear a heartbeat. :(

[Serene]

Then I win the worst hearing award. I still don't hear a heartbeat. :(
That's odd, Rump. Have you tried turning your speakers way up? Although, it's pretty obvious on mine without having to crank it too much.

Try turning them up to 11. ;)

[BaK]

just what would Lana think if she got this pic in email from someone called umm, "Kalex.R.Eckoning@FOSSecurity.com"?

some sort of a (sick) joke?

http://bc.images.trb.com/media/photo/2006-01/21350975.jpg (http://bc.images.trb.com/media/photo/2006-01/21350975.jpg?v=0)

[avidreader]

^^^^ That's what makes this whole Lexana thing so sad. Gosh, I hope she finds out some time soon.

[avidreader]

I do not think writers/AM would by any stretch intentionally have her
character assosiated with anything mean, deeply negative, causing
justified hatred..

Well that's what I'm really fearful of. What was that that Gough said, "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned". I dont want to see Lana doing anything that is going to come across as being vindictive to Clark.

The whole "hatred" thing is on the "client" side..
(in computer lingo).. Meaning "fans".. The way their "flawed" perception
works and stuff..

That's because we see Smallville through the eyes of Clark and therefore no ne can relate to what Lana is about.

So this will be almost like an ultimate challenge, puting her in the
"evil doer lair", upping it to the utmost.. Her "walk on the dark side"..
Of course, she will never come "clean" out of it for "fans" who already
"rationaly" dislike her.. That's a given..

That's why I hope that she's playing Lex and she has some real reason for entering into this relationship so soon after she breaks up with the love of her life.

What makes it the most interesting is, that Lex is still "half way to hell",
and will she and how contribute to shaping his further fall..

Once she turns her back on him, he will plummet, because she really is the only thing that's keeping him in touch with his light side.

About "more details" - sorry, can't, that's just umm, too zen to explain.. :)

What a copout. That's no fair. :(

[Red]

^^^^ That's what makes this whole Lexana thing so sad. Gosh, I hope she finds out some time soon.

Certainly won't be this season.

[BaK]

What a copout. That's no fair. :(
yep, no fair.. :o
i turn to fade..
;)

[Super_Ludacris]

She's just in a confused state and turned to lex. Things will resolve by season 6 midway

[Brainiac 8]

She's just in a confused state and turned to lex. Things will resolve by season 6 midway


Yup, that's when they'll start a Lex/Marha relationship.:eek:

Dear lord, I even scared myself.:(

[Super_Ludacris]

I could see them moving more with the Lionel/Martha ship though

[avidreader]

She's just in a confused state and turned to lex. Things will resolve by season 6 midway

Nope! After just rewatching Fragile, I'm sticking by my theory. She's playing Lex.

Unfortunately, the only motivation I can come up with at the moment is that she wants to show Clark that she's just as trustworthy and capable of keeping his secret as Chloe is.

[BaK]

Pretty damn good sum up of where's Lana at imo from Sweet..


The year starts off great - no more secrets, no more lies. You are finally with the one person in the world that you always thought was meant for you. Then things change. He begins to pull away from you. He begins not to want to touch you. You are supportive and understanding. You are there for him. His father dies. You are by his side. He doesn't even want you to hold his hand. In spite of this you go to the pawnshops in the slums of Metropolis to find his father's watch. You let him know that you're there for him. You not only tell him that you love him but that you love him with all of your heart. What does he do when he say's that - nothing. Then you ask him - do you still love me? He says - I've always loved you. I always will. No matter what happens. What is that suppose to mean? Then at the Talon you hint that the two of you have an opportunity to be alone together and he blows you off. What is your response - you tell him that you'll wait for as long as it takes. You are telling him that you are committed. A day later - he looks you right in the eye and he tells you that he doesn't love you.

Now you've been working with someone else. You haven't always gotten along but he has never done anything to directly hurt you. At least nothing you know about. Your former boyfriend doesn't like him but he has never told you why? This other person knows how important it is to you to find out about the spaceship that nearly killed you. He even helps you find out about it. Whereas your former boyfriend wanted you to forget about it. This other person show appreciation for your feelings. He listens to you.

Maybe, just maybe you were wrong about the first guy all along. People make mistakes. You are unsure about your feelings. You need to ssort things out. Being affectionate with this person is one way of doing this.

Now having said all this and I've said this before - Lionel said it best - Lana Lang will never love you because the people closest to you know what in your heart. A child doesn't know that a flame can hurt them until they actually touch it. Lana is going to have to get close to Lex before she understands who he is. I'm afraid she going to have to learn the hard way. As is Clark, he going to have to learn the hard way that he should never have pushed Lana away. Jor-El told Clark when he resurrected him that the lessons we learn from pain are the lessons that stay with us. Right now this is true for both Lana and Clark and for us.

[Super_Ludacris]

Oh god bless those little clana children at Sweet :). They have such a optimistic view of things like the Democratic Party in 2004................or me a few years ago before the real world clouded my life :(

[rumpuso]

That's a very interesting summation BaK. Thanks for sharing it!

[triplet]

Nope! After just rewatching Fragile, I'm sticking by my theory. She's playing Lex.

Unfortunately, the only motivation I can come up with at the moment is that she wants to show Clark that she's just as trustworthy and capable of keeping his secret as Chloe is.

What was it about Fragile that made you think Lana's playing Lex?

[Red]

What was it about Fragile that made you think Lana's playing Lex?

She's not. Lets face it Lana's not the smarts girl in TV.

[KikiDee]

I know this is nothing new and if it's already been posted......I'm sorry, but I'm too lazy to search.

This is from Watch with Kristen:

I know you thought you'd seen the last of Jonathan Kent, but he's back before the season ends. This week, a friend of Clark's tries to kill Lex in an attempt to get him out of Lana's life. Unfortunately, I think the plan backfires. But Lex is in trouble again before the season finale, and this time, his woes are directly related to Milton Fine.

Pffft...... of course it backfires. Everyone knows you can't kill Lex. What kind of cliffhanger is that?

Okay, that's my addition to the discussion of tonight's epi that I'm going to miss because my son has a music program. Ah well, let me know how it goes. I want some good stuff too not that "That episode was crap and what's with the fillers?"

Details people I want details.:)

[BaK]

Oh god bless those little clana children at Sweet :).
Actually, you should be able to tell by reading it that it ain't some kid's rant..

And his name/nick probably proves it - oldmankent ;)

[tonytr1687]

Pretty damn good sum up of where's Lana at imo from Sweet..


The year starts off great - no more secrets, no more lies. You are finally with the one person in the world that you always thought was meant for you. Then things change. He begins to pull away from you. He begins not to want to touch you. You are supportive and understanding. You are there for him. His father dies. You are by his side. He doesn't even want you to hold his hand. In spite of this you go to the pawnshops in the slums of Metropolis to find his father's watch. You let him know that you're there for him. You not only tell him that you love him but that you love him with all of your heart. What does he do when he say's that - nothing. Then you ask him - do you still love me? He says - I've always loved you. I always will. No matter what happens. What is that suppose to mean? Then at the Talon you hint that the two of you have an opportunity to be alone together and he blows you off. What is your response - you tell him that you'll wait for as long as it takes. You are telling him that you are committed. A day later - he looks you right in the eye and he tells you that he doesn't love you.

Now you've been working with someone else. You haven't always gotten along but he has never done anything to directly hurt you. At least nothing you know about. Your former boyfriend doesn't like him but he has never told you why? This other person knows how important it is to you to find out about the spaceship that nearly killed you. He even helps you find out about it. Whereas your former boyfriend wanted you to forget about it. This other person show appreciation for your feelings. He listens to you.

Maybe, just maybe you were wrong about the first guy all along. People make mistakes. You are unsure about your feelings. You need to ssort things out. Being affectionate with this person is one way of doing this.

Now having said all this and I've said this before - Lionel said it best - Lana Lang will never love you because the people closest to you know what in your heart. A child doesn't know that a flame can hurt them until they actually touch it. Lana is going to have to get close to Lex before she understands who he is. I'm afraid she going to have to learn the hard way. As is Clark, he going to have to learn the hard way that he should never have pushed Lana away. Jor-El told Clark when he resurrected him that the lessons we learn from pain are the lessons that stay with us. Right now this is true for both Lana and Clark and for us.


This sums it up perfectly. Every Lana-hater needs to take a good look at this to see that her character isn't acting whiny or *****y or anything like that, but realistic and understandeable. Just like Clark had Lana-blinders on for years, people here have Clark-blinders on. They need to look at this whole relationship from Lana's point of view. And this right here shows just how pathetic their ignorance is.

[TKodami]

Pretty damn good sum up of where's Lana at imo from Sweet..


The year starts off great - no more secrets, no more lies. You are finally with the one person in the world that you always thought was meant for you. Then things change. He begins to pull away from you. He begins not to want to touch you. You are supportive and understanding. You are there for him. His father dies. You are by his side. He doesn't even want you to hold his hand. In spite of this you go to the pawnshops in the slums of Metropolis to find his father's watch. You let him know that you're there for him. You not only tell him that you love him but that you love him with all of your heart. What does he do when he say's that - nothing. Then you ask him - do you still love me? He says - I've always loved you. I always will. No matter what happens. What is that suppose to mean? Then at the Talon you hint that the two of you have an opportunity to be alone together and he blows you off. What is your response - you tell him that you'll wait for as long as it takes. You are telling him that you are committed. A day later - he looks you right in the eye and he tells you that he doesn't love you.

Now you've been working with someone else. You haven't always gotten along but he has never done anything to directly hurt you. At least nothing you know about. Your former boyfriend doesn't like him but he has never told you why? This other person knows how important it is to you to find out about the spaceship that nearly killed you. He even helps you find out about it. Whereas your former boyfriend wanted you to forget about it. This other person show appreciation for your feelings. He listens to you.

Maybe, just maybe you were wrong about the first guy all along. People make mistakes. You are unsure about your feelings. You need to ssort things out. Being affectionate with this person is one way of doing this.

Now having said all this and I've said this before - Lionel said it best - Lana Lang will never love you because the people closest to you know what in your heart. A child doesn't know that a flame can hurt them until they actually touch it. Lana is going to have to get close to Lex before she understands who he is. I'm afraid she going to have to learn the hard way. As is Clark, he going to have to learn the hard way that he should never have pushed Lana away. Jor-El told Clark when he resurrected him that the lessons we learn from pain are the lessons that stay with us. Right now this is true for both Lana and Clark and for us.

Thanks for sharing that, BaK. :up:

I've never hated Lana, though I often got annoyed at her character (or rather the people writing her character) over the seasons as she always seemed to be just a tad bit thick in respect to Clark. But this season has shown me more than any other that if I were in Lana's shoes, I don't think that I'd act any differently than she has.

[avidreader]

What was it about Fragile that made you think Lana's playing Lex?

Mostly her conversation with Chloe. The things she says and what Chloe says to her.

With regards to that post from Sweet, its all well and good to say all of that in Lana's defense, but as Chloe keeps pointing out, Lana's a big girl and she's capable of making her own decisions.

That post just highlites to me Lana's biggest weakness, she relies too much on other people to make her life right.

Instead of her neverending quest for the truth from the people in her life she should try and be a little more pro-active and understand other people's motivations.

Sounds like I've done a 180 with regards to Lana, but after watching a couple of Season 5 episodes today, I think she needs to become a stronger person, otherwise she'll never be happy.

[Super_Ludacris]

It always scares me when people talk about WB characters like real people. But point taken. Still the writers are gonna write her like that for leverage for whatever story they want to write.

[Brainiac 8]

Mostly her conversation with Chloe. The things she says and what Chloe says to her.

With regards to that post from Sweet, its all well and good to say all of that in Lana's defense, but as Chloe keeps pointing out, Lana's a big girl and she's capable of making her own decisions.

That post just highlites to me Lana's biggest weakness, she relies too much on other people to make her life right.

Instead of her neverending quest for the truth from the people in her life she should try and be a little more pro-active and understand other people's motivations.

Sounds like I've done a 180 with regards to Lana, but after watching a couple of Season 5 episodes today, I think she needs to become a stronger person, otherwise she'll never be happy.


:up: :up: Well put Avid...I feel the same way.
Lana has always relied on someone to make her happy. First Whitney,Clark,Adam,Jason,Clark,Lex...she really needs some alone time.:o

[Super_Ludacris]

Hello, she's a teenager who grew up in a mostly suburban world. With that said, I mean she has been pratically living on her own and was working at the talon and going to school and doing stuff like travelling abroad herself at like 17. So I would say she's grown up quick in that time but hasnt made the emotional adjustment that someone of her background with no parent/gaurdian has or would and that's understandable. So naturally she's gonna look for comfort in her boyfriends. I think it makes perfect sense from that perspective.

[avidreader]

Hello, she's a teenager who grew up in a mostly suburban world. With that said, I mean she has been pratically living on her own and was working at the talon and going to school and doing stuff like travelling abroad herself at like 17. So I would say she's grown up quick in that time but hasnt made the emotional adjustment that someone of her background with no parent/gaurdian has or would and that's understandable. So naturally she's gonna look for comfort in her boyfriends. I think it makes perfect sense from that perspective.

I can understand and appreciate why she feels the way she feels, but you cant rely on other people to make you happy and she should have learnt that from what you've said.

I should add that my assessment of her is based on her falling for Lex so quickly and it being real effection. If she's playing him, like I hope, then she has learnt alot from her experiences this past season.

[Super_Ludacris]

I can understand and appreciate why she feels the way she feels, but you cant rely on other people to make you happy and she should have learnt that from what you've said.

I should add that my assessment of her is based on her falling for Lex so quickly and it being real effection. If she's playing him, like I hope, then she has learnt alot from her experiences this past season.


If your a teenager I think so. I mean I knew tons of girls who were like that.

[avidreader]

If your a teenager I think so. I mean I knew tons of girls who were like that.

I'm a major Lana defender, you know that. I watched 3 episodes today, Fragile, Lockdown and Splinter. Alot of Lex, Lana and Clark relationship stuff.

After watching those episodes Lana should know better than to give Lex 100% without a doubt trust, because there was alot of reason to question his motives in those episodes. Particularly Splinter and Lockdown.

So what I'm saying is, if this relationship with Lex is legitimate, then I think she's once again gotten into a relationship with someone because she thinks that's what's going to bring her happiness and I have no doubt that she is going to come away from the relationship with huge issues, but I think she'll only have herself to blame for it.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Clark is already blaming Lionel for the stuff.

[GothicPowerMix1]

& here we go

[roach]

that wasnt good

[GothicPowerMix1]

I wonder if Clark will realize that Chloe lied to him :confused: I hope we are not coming back to the Clark that does not trusting anyone but his Mom

[roach]

about to find out

[GothicPowerMix1]

Clark is still afraid of heights :confused: I am getting annoyed of him saying that

[roach]

he got Clark a whore!!!!!!!!

[GothicPowerMix1]

Clark just met the guy & Clark is basically telling him his life Story already :o

[GothicPowerMix1]

Holy Crap they really are advertising the **** out of Mission Impossible 3 :o

[Super_Ludacris]

Again...LMAO@ people posting while watching.

No way you can focus on things

*glads he has the 'Ville TIVO'ed*

[GothicPowerMix1]

Its not like these Episodes need 100 % Attention to get whats going on.

[Super_Ludacris]

Yeah but the on going commentary explains a lot. I knew people didnt put things in perspective lol

[avidreader]

Again...LMAO@ people posting while watching.

No way you can focus on things

*glads he has the 'Ville TIVO'ed*

I always wonder that too.

Dnsk you must miss so much, no wonder you dont like the show much.

[roach]

hey and I am on watch too

...note to Clark. If you FOTW can turn invisible dont speak about your powers out loud....

[GothicPowerMix1]

When did I say I dont like the Show :confused: Why would I want to waste my time if I did not like it ?

[avidreader]

When did I say I dont like the Show :confused: Why would I want to waste my time if I did not like it ?

Sorry, my bad. :O But you have said that you dont like alot of the episodes this season.

[GothicPowerMix1]

& that is my PERSONAL OPINION. Like I have said in the past just because I dont like certain Episodes does not mean I dont like the Show at all.

[avidreader]

& that is my PERSONAL OPINION. Like I have said in the past just because I dont like certain Episodes does not mean I dont like the Show at all.

It was just a joke. ;)

[roach]

I am impressed...a smart application of his powers

[Unleashed]

WHY DOESN'T HE JUST USE HIS DAMN X-RAY VISION!?!?!?:mad:

[Kaboom]

and what did he do? he starts monologing!

[GothicPowerMix1]

and what did he do? he starts monologing!

Just like every other Villian in TV & Movie History before Killing the Good Guy

[amazingfantasy15]

WHY DOESN'T HE JUST USE HIS DAMN X-RAY VISION!?!?!?:mad:

Exactly what I've been saying for the past 15 minutes.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Wow he buried him. I give him credit

[roach]

would Xray vision see an invisible man?????

[roach]

should have run when they had the chance

[GothicPowerMix1]

Wow what a shock an empty Hospital Hallway :o & Lex gets the credit

[Kaboom]

would Xray vision see an invisible man?????

probably depends on how the xray vision works. if say it bends light around the body, then presumably yes. because its my understanding that supermans xray version works because he can focus through things. so if the light is bending, conceivably he could see through the gaps in the light particles.

[amazingfantasy15]

dude still has a skeleton, he's seeing things an a different level with X-Ray vision, should've at least tried.

[amazingfantasy15]

at least he used super hearing though

[Kaboom]

pause for aw jonathan moment

[GothicPowerMix1]

Isn't Lois going to wonder why there was a Green Rock in Clark's Jacket where he was Buried :confused: & I was expecting Clark to walk in during Martha's & Lois's talk

[Kaboom]

Chlois lives!

[roach]

Uh Oh

[GothicPowerMix1]

Oh goodie another Clark & Lana moment in the Barn Ending Episode

[roach]

that is the sound of Clark's heart breaking......and Lana grows up

[Kaboom]

Oh goodie another Clark & Lana moment in the Barn Ending Episode


lol

[GothicPowerMix1]

Lana is growing up. But she is going to regret her getting with Lex

[roach]

is anyone doing the AOL blog thingie????

[amazingfantasy15]

I want Dr. Fine back dammit! And next week I get my wish and Zod is coming! Woohoo, no more FOTWs!

[roach]

next weeks episode looks crazy

[smsvmos]

Zod Is Coming

[smsvmos]

Z.O.D Is Coming!!!!!!!!!!! YEA BABY

[roach]

where is he coming from????
dude has been coming since last season

[Morg]

Ok I'm confused, why the heck Clark couldn't use his x-ray vision to see a invisible man? Did like that part with Lois in the yellow shirt *whoooo!* :D

[Kane]

Overall a good episode, nothing spectacular but it moved the story forward.

Pros:

- Lex/Lana is officially a real deal. To Serene and Avidreader, its obvious now that Lana isnt being duplicitous and her feelings for Lex are genuine.

- Naked psycho Lois about to attack Clark with a weapon; finally a scene intended to be funny that was actually...funny.

- G. Garrett was one of the cooler Fotws...hopefully he will be the last though. Him burying Clark was cool.

Cons

- Another so-called final Clana loft scene....the horror. Lana saying 'Its over'...yet again.

- Super Chloe to the rescue yet again, removing the green rock as she always does and throwing it away just in the nick of time....wooo :down

- Lois complaining she always gets set up with corrupt individuals. Did she forget Aquadude already?.....or was he retconned somehow :confused:

- Did Clark totally forget Chloe walking in on him and Lana kissing? He was acting like Chloe couldnt understand what he went through with Lana and Lex. I was expecting Chloe to bring that incident up...but guess not.


I'd give this 3 out of 5, nothing mind-blowing in this one but it moved things slightly forward; at least in the realm of Lexana.

[amazingfantasy15]

Kane, you forgot Lex IM'ing Fine about the Virus

[Kane]

I thought theyve been instant messenger buddies for a while now?

[amazingfantasy15]

oh, I didn't notice it until tonight

[Supershizzle]

Zod Is Coming


ewwww :eek:

[Kane]

Hmm I duno, I thought there was this whole AOL thing before. Eh no biggie. I think it all plays into next weeks episode anyways.

[amazingfantasy15]

Well, Lex had people tracking Fine, that's where the AOL thing first came into play.

[Unleashed]

Cons

- Lois complaining she always gets set up with corrupt individuals. Did she forget Aquadude already?.....or was he retconned somehow :confused:

I'd give this 3 out of 5, nothing mind-blowing in this one but it moved things slightly forward; at least in the realm of Lexana.
Well, he was a criminal

[Kane]

Lois viewed him as an honorable person though. The only crime he was guilty of was bad acting.

[tonytr1687]

Pretty good episode. And why are ppl so dumbfounded as to why Lana is so trusting of Lex? We've seen episode after episode that she's begun to trust him more, despite the events in Commencement. People here act like she doesn't recognize Lex's dark side at all, which isn't true. At the beginning of the season she didn't trust him at all and kept accusing him of stuff, but since Splinter she's gradually beem swayed the other way through Lex's measures as well as the fact that everyone has kept her completely in the dark about most of his bad doings. So I think it makes sense. As to why she fell for him, methinks she's had secret feelings for him for a while now. But ppl have short memories so they probably don't remember past episodes in the series that hinted at it.

[MJZ]

Lois viewed him as an honorable person though. The only crime he was guilty of was bad acting.

Heh. :D

On a roll tonight, Kane...

[muscaremy]

Lois viewed him as an honorable person though. The only crime he was guilty of was bad acting.

anybody whos seen the clerks 2 trailer will get this........

DANGER DANGER my name is arthur .....****ty acting is ruining episode

[tonytr1687]

anybody whos seen the clerks 2 trailer will get this........

DANGER DANGER my name is arthur .....****ty acting is ruining episode

Actually he says "Danger Danger my name is Anakin...my ****ty acting is ruining episode 3."

It was a rip on Hayden Christensen.

[muscaremy]

no kiddin..... i kno that i was doin it in reference to the dude who played ac and how is bad acting made the episode worse than it coulda been......shhheeeez

[tonytr1687]

As usual those Kryptonsite losers are ripping into this episode. Do they even like Smallville over there?

[Strange]

They had several close up shots of Clark that look almost like he needed to shave. They should have him shaving or trying to figure out how in some episode.

[Supershizzle]

As usual those Kryptonsite losers are ripping into this episode. Do they even like Smallville over there?


Apparently not, I ventured over there for the first time ever today when someone asked me to look at something and I was horrified to see the level of sheer stupidity that was running rampant there. It makes these forums look like a MENSA gathering. It's like an entire site of disgruntled Joss Whedon fans and teenage girls who wouldnt know Superman from a hole in the wall. No wonder that place has the rep it does in some circles.

[KikiDee]

Where is everyone?

Well, I thought they did a great job with the continuity on this one. Clark actually remembered conversations that he had in previous episodes.

Okay, they gave us a nice little superman leap, but you can definitely tell they are saving up the special effects budget for something big. I'm okay with that I'll take a more philosophical episode for now.:)

I loved, loved, loved all the foreshadowing to Clark and Lois's relationship. Poor thing can't find a nice guy even when he's staring at you butt naked holding a toilet brush. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif You know Jonothan may be gone, but his spirit lives on in Martha. She's suddenly become Dear Abby. That's okay too, I kind of like mama Kent passing out advice and cookies along with legislature.

Okay so the FOTW was once again a side note. He was there only to push the story along, but what a great lesson Clark learned. Sometimes you've gotta save the bad guy because it's not your right to pick and choose who lives or dies. This episode was all about character building in my opinion. I think Superman is supposed to stand for so much more than just super human powers.

Oooooo and Lex is such a liar. Here he is telling Lana how he can't find any info on Milton and he's on IM basis with the guy. Poor Lana, personally I hope she is playing him otherwise she just needs to get over her self righteous self. I can see why she thinks he's trustworthy because you have to admit he's a very smooth talker and he always seems to be saving her life. Too bad she's not allowed to see Clark actually doing the saving.

As for Chloe and Clark's relationship yep she looked uncomfortable during the whole I couldn't breathe spiel, but she never really had a relationship with him to feel rejected about. I love how they are using her to spark his journalistic interest. More forward motion there people you've got to love that.

I can't think of anything else right now, but I do have to say I always love Clark in a suit and how cute was he.. blushing when that lady of the night kissed him......http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Serene]

As usual those Kryptonsite losers are ripping into this episode. Do they even like Smallville over there?

I may not love the K-Site forums, but to be fair, there is a wide range of posters there, from the fairly intelligent, to the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathers (and really, that's the same in just about *every* large forum).

It's just so damn populated, way more than I like to deal with. I can barely deal with the drive-by posters we get in here. ;)

I only check the forums out on occasion, but I do love K-Site as a source of information.

Tonight's ep - I thought it had some really nice moments. It left me a bit shell-shocked, and melancholy though.

Clark looked amazing in that jacket during the party scene. I think that sums up my review.

[Radford]

Actually he says "Danger Danger my name is Anakin...my ****ty acting is ruining episode 3."

It was a rip on Hayden Christensen.



pay attention!

jesus, he was making an Aquaman joke...


Aquaman = Arthur Curry

[KikiDee]

I may not love the K-Site forums, but to be fair, there is a wide range of posters there, from the fairly intelligent, to the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathers (and really, that's the same in just about *every* large forum).

It's just so damn populated, way more than I like to deal with. I can barely deal with the drive-by posters we get in here. ;)

I only check the forums out on occasion, but I do love K-Site as a source of information.

Tonight's ep - I thought it had some really nice moments. It left me a bit shell-shocked, and melancholy though.

Clark looked amazing in that jacket during the party scene. I think that sums up my review.

Nice review!http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[muscaremy]

and if ur gonna correct me do it right he sez "****ty acting is ruining saga"

[MJZ]

Really liked this one.

These next two will be something else I think...

[avidreader]

Okay, I know you've all been saying (hello TonyT) that Lana has reason to be attracted to Lex and its been building for months, but honestly how can the girl be so blind.

I really now want her to suffer for putting too much trust in Lex. I just watched Transference before this episode, so I'm doubly peeved with Lana at the moment.

And why can she never let Clark finish a sentence. :mad:

Now that I've had my little rant, I'll just echo what Kiki said.

Loved Clark walking in on Lois naked. Now he's got her back. :up:

[tonytr1687]

pay attention!

jesus, he was making an Aquaman joke...


Aquaman = Arthur Curry

Whoa! Cant believe I didnt pick that up. Talk about a blonde moment.

[tonytr1687]

Where is everyone?

Well, I thought they did a great job with the continuity on this one. Clark actually remembered conversations that he had in previous episodes.

Okay, they gave us a nice little superman leap, but you can definitely tell they are saving up the special effects budget for something big. I'm okay with that I'll take a more philosophical episode for now.:)

I loved, loved, loved all the foreshadowing to Clark and Lois's relationship. Poor thing can't find a nice guy even when he's staring at you butt naked holding a toilet brush. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif You know Jonothan may be gone, but his spirit lives on in Martha. She's suddenly become Dear Abby. That's okay too, I kind of like mama Kent passing out advice and cookies along with legislature.

Okay so the FOTW was once again a side note. He was there only to push the story along, but what a great lesson Clark learned. Sometimes you've gotta save the bad guy because it's not your right to pick and choose who lives or dies. This episode was all about character building in my opinion. I think Superman is supposed to stand for so much more than just super human powers.

Oooooo and Lex is such a liar. Here he is telling Lana how he can't find any info on Milton and he's on IM basis with the guy. Poor Lana, personally I hope she is playing him otherwise she just needs to get over her self righteous self. I can see why she thinks he's trustworthy because you have to admit he's a very smooth talker and he always seems to be saving her life. Too bad she's not allowed to see Clark actually doing the saving.

As for Chloe and Clark's relationship yep she looked uncomfortable during the whole I couldn't breathe spiel, but she never really had a relationship with him to feel rejected about. I love how they are using her to spark his journalistic interest. More forward motion there people you've got to love that.

I can't think of anything else right now, but I do have to say I always love Clark in a suit and how cute was he.. blushing when that lady of the night kissed him......http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Actually Lex wasnt lying to Lana this time. He's playing Fine by trying to investigate him behind his back while also working with him, but of course it doesnt work because "Fine the government agent" doesnt exist. BTW since when is Lex working with Fine on the virus plot? Is this supposed to be the weapon he is developing against alien invaders?

[avidreader]

Actually Lex wasnt lying to Lana this time. He's playing Fine by trying to investigate him behind his back while also working with him, but of course it doesnt work because "Fine the government agent" doesnt exist. BTW since when is Lex working with Fine on the virus plot? Is this supposed to be the weapon he is developing against alien invaders?

Lex was talking to Fine by IM, and he told Lana he couldnt find any trace of him.

Lex and Fine agreed to work on the Virus after Honduras.

[tonytr1687]

Okay, I know you've all been saying (hello TonyT) that Lana has reason to be attracted to Lex and its been building for months, but honestly how can the girl be so blind.

I really now want her to suffer for putting too much trust in Lex. I just watched Transference before this episode, so I'm doubly peeved with Lana at the moment.

And why can she never let Clark finish a sentence. :mad:

Now that I've had my little rant, I'll just echo what Kiki said.

Loved Clark walking in on Lois naked. Now he's got her back. :up:

How can she be blind? Because all of her friends, including Clark, dont tell her ANYTHING about what Lex has done. All Clark says is "you can't trust him" instead of going into detail about it and giving her a real reason to doubt Lex's intentions. And you have to remember she WAS skeptical of him at the beginning of the season. So it's not like she's been all-trusting all the time. It's just that certain circumstances as well as Lex's smooth talking have made her go the other way.

[tonytr1687]

Lex was talking to Fine by IM, and he told Lana he couldnt find any trace of him.

Lex and Fine agreed to work on the Virus after Honduras.

What episode had Lex and Fine talking about the virus? I dont remember that conversation in Hypnotic. And he told Lana that the government ppl he talked to couldnt find any trace of Fine. Or did he say something else that I missed? People around me kept talking so I could have missed something.

[avidreader]

How can she be blind? Because all of her friends, including Clark, dont tell her ANYTHING about what Lex has done. All Clark says is "you can't trust him" instead of going into detail about it and giving her a real reason to doubt Lex's intentions. And you have to remember she WAS skeptical of him at the beginning of the season. So it's not like she's been all-trusting all the time. It's just that certain circumstances as well as Lex's smooth talking have made her go the other way.

She never gave Clark a chance. He went to say something and she cut him off.

I still dont understand how she can be giving Clark all the time in the world and love him so much and then a couple of weeks later be head over heels in love with Lex.

The girl has issues.

[avidreader]

What episode had Lex and Fine talking about the virus? I dont remember that conversation in Hypnotic. And he told Lana that the government ppl he talked to couldnt find any trace of Fine. Or did he say something else that I missed? People around me kept talking so I could have missed something.

They did speak about it in Hypnotic and then he had the government book from Fine in Fragile. There's also been the blogs.

Lex did tell Lana that the Government couldnt find any trace of Fine but he's talking to Fine by IM at the same time.

[KikiDee]

Actually Lex wasnt lying to Lana this time. He's playing Fine by trying to investigate him behind his back while also working with him, but of course it doesnt work because "Fine the government agent" doesnt exist. BTW since when is Lex working with Fine on the virus plot? Is this supposed to be the weapon he is developing against alien invaders?

Never mind I just read Avid's post and I think I'm right on this one. I'll go back and watch it though just in case I missed something.

[tonytr1687]

They did speak about it in Hypnotic and then he had the government book from Fine in Fragile. There's also been the blogs.

Lex did tell Lana that the Government couldnt find any trace of Fine but he's talking to Fine by IM at the same time.

The reason he told her the govnt "could find any trace of him" was b/c he went to Washington to see if Fine was legit. That meant asking around...and the ppl told him he didnt exist. He didnt say HE couldnt find him, he said the government ppl couldnt.

But wow I remember Lex and Fine talking about alien invaders and a weapon they have to develop, but I guess I forgot about the virus part.

[tonytr1687]

She never gave Clark a chance. He went to say something and she cut him off.

I still dont understand how she can be giving Clark all the time in the world and love him so much and then a couple of weeks later be head over heels in love with Lex.

The girl has issues.

Well to be fair she isnt IN LOVE with him. She's just infatuated. And yeah of course she has issues. Doesnt everybody on this show.

[KikiDee]

She never gave Clark a chance. He went to say something and she cut him off.

I still dont understand how she can be giving Clark all the time in the world and love him so much and then a couple of weeks later be head over heels in love with Lex.

The girl has issues.

Oh I totally agree.

I get that she's pissed. I mean he did break up with her in about the most heartless way possible, but it's like someone mentioned before, she doesn't really like being alone does she?
Look at Lois. She has absolutely no luck with men and she's pretty much resigned to that fact. I love it that she has no luck with men.


How can she be blind? Because all of her friends, including Clark, dont tell her ANYTHING about what Lex has done. All Clark says is "you can't trust him" instead of going into detail about it and giving her a real reason to doubt Lex's intentions.

Clark can't usually tell her because there's no way he could prove his allegations without revealing his "secret". As for everyone else, do they really know what Lex has done? The only people who might know something are in the same boat as Clark.

[tonytr1687]

Oh I totally agree
. I get that she's pissed. I mean he did break up with her in about the most heartless way possible, but it's like someone mentioned before, she doesn't really like being alone does she?
Look at Lois. She has absolutely no luck with men and she's pretty much resigned to that fact. I love it that she has no luck with men.



Clark can't usually tell her because there's no way he could prove his allegations without revealing his "secret". As for everyone else, do they really know what Lex has done? The only people who might know something are in the same boat as Clark.

Well there's Chloe. But what about the incident in Cyborg? That wouldnt endanger Clark's secret would it?

[GothicPowerMix1]

Well there's Chloe. But what about the incident in Cyborg? That wouldnt endanger Clark's secret would it?

& theres also Aquadude. But I think that certain Episode will be taken out of Smallville History :o Unless of coursethey have Aquaman in the new Aquaman Show mention how he has met one other Guy with Special Abilities or something.

[Colossal Spoons]

Is there a site I could get a summary of tonight's episode? I only saw 1/2 of it; up to the point where Lex was in his hospital bed.

[The Watchman]

So I'm not up to date with spoilers on the show, I just watch it...but has it been confirmed that Zod is played by Terrance Stamp

...because I'll be damnned in the preview for next episode the guy in the plastic sack phantom zone sure as hell looked like him in constant freeze framing by me. :confused:

[LostSon88]

I missed the epi tonight...anything good?

[The Watchman]

like always, a few good Superman moments with shoddy plotting.

[tonytr1687]

I missed the epi tonight...anything good?

If you're one who accepts the fact that the FOTWs are there to move the subplots and character arcs forward, then yeah it was good. But if not, then u prob wudnt think it was the greatest. I thought it was above average. Good Lexana moments and even a little "good Lex" peeking through in the hospital thnx to Lana.

[Serene]

So I'm not up to date with spoilers on the show, I just watch it...but has it been confirmed that Zod is played by Terrance Stamp
No. At least, not that I've heard. I believe that Gough said in an interview that Stamp was his preference for the role...something like that anyway.

...because I'll be damnned in the preview for next episode the guy in the plastic sack phantom zone sure as hell looked like him in constant freeze framing by me. :confused:

I tried slo-mo, freeze-framing too.. I thought it looked like it might be a girl. LOL.. I thought I saw boobs. :eek::D

[The Watchman]

No. At least, not that I've heard. I believe that Gough said in an interview that Stamp was his preference for the role...something like that anyway.



I tried slo-mo, freeze-framing too.. I thought it looked like it might be a girl. LOL.. I thought I saw boobs. :eek::D
Hmmmmmm, may have to revisit it then :)

[JackMercy]

So I'm not up to date with spoilers on the show, I just watch it...but has it been confirmed that Zod is played by Terrance Stamp

...because I'll be damnned in the preview for next episode the guy in the plastic sack phantom zone sure as hell looked like him in constant freeze framing by me. :confused:


You like-ah da sauce, eh...?


Nothing has been confirmed...

;)


...but for T.S., I'd place my bets more on Mr. J (no, not that one), than Mr. Z...in fact I think he's kind of auditioned already...

[Scooter]

I ain't gonna be able to see this one. Any good?

[Super_Ludacris]

Surely we would have known by now if Stamp was in the season finale. Maybe next year but I dunno bout this season.