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Artos
03-09-2006, 11:19 PM
According to the interview with Barbara Brocolli, the next film will be an original story, but will continue on something from Casino Royale.

What's the connection going to be? There have been rumors about that there will be a new SPECTRE-like terrorist organization that is backing Le Chiffre. Could that be it or something else?

Discuss

StrainedEyes
03-09-2006, 11:23 PM
I hope we have a new SPECTRE type group again. The early Bond's were great in how they slowly built to finding Blofeld. I think it would be a good way to get Bond back on track

Darth Nata
03-09-2006, 11:58 PM
Even though Christopher Nolan is busy with The Prestige and the Batman Sequel, I would love to see him do the next Bond film. Say they are going to release one every 3 years, going on the timeframe that he is working on at the moment and the timeframe that Casino Royale is working on it is possible that he could fit it in between Batman 2 and 3.

Batman Begins - Filmed from March to September 2004. Released June 2005

The Prestige - Filming from January to May? 2006. Released October 2006

Batman Sequel - Filming from March to September 2007. Released June 2008

James Bond 22 - Filming from January - Mid 2009. Released November 2009

warren_sparta27
03-10-2006, 03:03 AM
what about the rumours of BB sequal filming back to back?

Darth Nata
03-10-2006, 03:58 AM
Im pretty sure that isnt going to happen. Batman 3 will most likely come out in 2011.

Masut
03-10-2006, 08:10 AM
Didn't Nolan originally want to direct Bond?

Darth Nata
03-10-2006, 08:24 AM
This is from an interview that I found...

BOM: Are you a James Bond fan—or an Ian Fleming fan?
Nolan: Both. I came to Bond through the movies, and I got interested in reading the books, which are very, very different from the films in terms of the story. The books are quite gritty in their own way. It's not as cheeky, though I think Sean Connery (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=seanconnery.htm)'s Bond is pretty close to the [James Bond of the] books. What I like in the books is that there's a selfishness to the character, a vanity, just a little, at times.

BOM: Would you like to direct a James Bond picture?
Nolan: I'd love to.

This is from IMDB...

He is a big James Bond fan, and said to David S. Goyer, that his favorite James Bond movie, is "On Her Majesty's Secret Service"

Also just found this list of Nolan's favourite films. It has OHMSS at the top of his guilty pleasures list...

"George Lazenby is no one's favorite James Bond, but for me the anonymity at the center of this lavish production only serves to reveal the Bond machine firing on all cylinders: superb editing and photography, incredible score, great setpieces. The most romantic in the series, and it actually has, of all things, a tragic ending."

Everyman
03-10-2006, 10:05 PM
I hope we have a new SPECTRE type group again. The early Bond's were great in how they slowly built to finding Blofeld. I think it would be a good way to get Bond back on track

Agreed. A recurring nemesis is what Bond has been missing for years. He has to find something that is bigger than him.

Masut
03-11-2006, 04:32 AM
Yeah he really does need a recurring enemy. Make a big build up through the movies and then finally reveal a new master villain!

StevieNicks1988
03-11-2006, 09:59 AM
I've heard rumblings through several sources (and websites, alike) that the first three 'reboot' movies, beginning with 'Casino Royale', deal with a new SPECTRE type terrorist group. I think they are all supposed to be, excluding CR, original stories.

I hope that is indeed true, as if they go back and re-film the older classics, they are in for MAJOR trouble and a big backlash.

TheFalcon
03-11-2006, 12:10 PM
I hope we have a new SPECTRE type group again. The early Bond's were great in how they slowly built to finding Blofeld. I think it would be a good way to get Bond back on track

I agree. I would love if they did that. A secret and modern organization kind of like the Syndicate guys on X-Files (no aliens involved of course :) ) who has many members and agents working for them to gain control of the world somehow. A modern SPECTRE.

What happened to the rights thing by the way?
Are they allowed to use Blofeld now?
Wasn't it Sony (or that Kevin guy who made Never Say Never Again) that was awarded the rights for SPECTRE/Blofeld, so now that they've bought MGM it should all be okay again shouldn't it?

Everyman
03-11-2006, 12:47 PM
I don't think they can use Blofeld anymore, but even if there was no legal problem, Blofeld has been weakened in DAF and FYEO and spoofed so often that I doubt they can reuse him. But they could recreate a Blofeld-type of Nemesis, making him close to the books-Blofeld.

Mister C
03-11-2006, 10:32 PM
hmm Smersh could always be used it was who le chirffe was working for in the book.

Masut
03-12-2006, 12:22 AM
hmm Smersh could always be used it was who le chirffe was working for in the book.

Yeah, but didn't they not fit in with our times or something?

deathshead2
03-12-2006, 12:24 AM
Yeah, but didn't they not fit in with our times or something?Its not hard to keep a name and change the reason why they are evil.

Masut
03-12-2006, 12:30 AM
Its not hard to keep a name and change the reason why they are evil.

I guess so. Let's see what they come up with

Everyman
03-12-2006, 09:07 AM
Its not hard to keep a name and change the reason why they are evil.

Except that SMERSH was ispired by a real organisation in USSR and they are very associate with the Cold War. It might work if it became a part of the Russian maffia, but somehow I think a SPECTRE-like organisation might just work better.

James"007"Bond
03-14-2006, 04:32 AM
My level of trust in a recurring crime organization to be successful is extremely low. Intheory it would be awesome but there are way too many over-ambitious hacks that could really screw it up.

Masut
03-14-2006, 10:06 PM
But at the end of Casino Royale, Bond decided 'he would go after the threat behind spies, the threat that made them spy'. This is a set up for a larger organisation which I think the movie has a chance to do. Bond vows to go after the big boys. But then again it could also relate to other general terrorist leaders etc. So I'm not really sure what they will do.

Having a larger organisation to go after gives his vow more purpose.

Everyman
03-15-2006, 11:33 PM
My level of trust in a recurring crime organization to be successful is extremely low. Intheory it would be awesome but there are way too many over-ambitious hacks that could really screw it up.

Yes, this is a risk, but in the early days it worked so well. And more recently, it worked in different superhero movies franchises, although you could say to a lesser extend. It could work if they make a loose "trilogy" like the novels Thunderball, OHMSS and YOLT were, all with Blofeld as an ennemy.

Everyman
03-15-2006, 11:39 PM
Having a larger organisation to go after gives his vow more purpose.

And it also makes the threat seem more powerful and therefore mroe menacing. It gives more continuity to the movies as well.

Kurosawa
03-21-2006, 07:27 PM
I definately agree. they need to have the movies build to something. What Bond needs at this point is a great villian that is built up slowly, like Blofeld was. It's too bad the rights to him and SPECTRE are all screwed up. They could bring SPECTRE back at least.

Everyman
03-22-2006, 07:07 PM
SPECTRE sadly got soft after OHMSS, and Blofeld turned into a spoof in DAf, way before Mike Myers invented Dr. Evil. But a Blofeld-like villain would be great. I imagine a badguy from Hungary or Romania (I think it's the only two European countries that never gave "birth" to a Bond badguy, I might be mistaken though), very intelligent but sexually impotent (like Blofeld in the novels, again, and like Blofeld in the early movies as well), very calm, very cold, head of a freelance terrorist/assassins organisation that is totally apolitical, using violence as a tool for power, and using the power they gain from it for the sake of it. Basically, monsters in human forms, as Bond villains should be.

James"007"Bond
03-23-2006, 08:12 AM
Yes, this is a risk, but in the early days it worked so well. And more recently, it worked in different superhero movies franchises, although you could say to a lesser extend. It could work if they make a loose "trilogy" like the novels Thunderball, OHMSS and YOLT were, all with Blofeld as an ennemy.

The key words of your post are, "in the early days it worked well". Many things worked well and were executed in a more superior way in the early days. But these days, there are so many bull sh.1t writing hacks that fans of a franchise have to always be left in a state of panic and fear for the movies they love......but I do see what you'r saying.

Everyman
03-23-2006, 12:05 PM
As I said, there is a risk, but it is risk worth taking. I think a recurring nemesis gives a sense of continuity and a feeling of menace that a one movie ennemy doesn't

BobJM
04-23-2006, 01:11 PM
Right now, I'm in the preliminary stages of a James Bond fan screenplay. As of right now, there are no connections to Casino Royale, mainly because I haven't seen the film, but also, I always liked the fact that the Bond films are not a straight storyline and that Bond is always facing another villain. It changes it up a bit.

Anyway, for those interested, here's a synopsis of my screenplay.

007 in:

ROYAL EYE

After a bombing of a US embassy in Paris, France, all fingers point to a wealthy coporate French man. When James begins to sleuth, he realizes that the man he is hunting is actually the next target and that there are bigger forces at work here. The man is killed and the killer also takes out James' rendevous. M, blaming Bond for one of her agent's deaths, takes him off of the case. Trying to redeem himself, James will embark on an adventure that will take him half way around the world to the beautiful Australia where he meets his stunning Australian Intelligence partner. James must uncover the evil plan and save the world once again. But, what James doesn't know is that, the man he is hunting, also happens to be a key figure in James' past.

(P.S. I've been toying with several title ideas because of the similarities to Casino ROYALE and ROYAL Eye. Other titles that I'm thinking about are PAST IS PRESENT, DEATH IS NOT FATAL, and LIVE YOUR DEATH.

Everyman
04-24-2006, 01:44 PM
I like some of your ideas, such as having a suspected criminal being the next target of the real perpretator. But I think having M taking Bond off a case has been done a bit too often, and do we need another Bond girl that is also a spy? What happened to the old time, when very often the Bond girl was a damsel in distress, somebody who got into unwanted trouble?

BobJM
04-24-2006, 04:54 PM
I like some of your ideas, such as having a suspected criminal being the next target of the real perpretator. But I think having M taking Bond off a case has been done a bit too often, and do we need another Bond girl that is also a spy? What happened to the old time, when very often the Bond girl was a damsel in distress, somebody who got into unwanted trouble?

I love when the Bond girl is just as deadly as Bond. Its one of the reasons Jinx was my favorite Bond Girl. Its just, that the damsel in distress thing gets a little old and the times have changed.

Everyman
04-24-2006, 11:53 PM
I love when the Bond girl is just as deadly as Bond. Its one of the reasons Jinx was my favorite Bond Girl. Its just, that the damsel in distress thing gets a little old and the times have changed.

Oh God, Jinx was the worst Bond girl ever! She was just a gimmick, "bond's equal" on paper only, she looked like a clueless model worried about her manicure! No seriously, damsels in distress work fine when they are well-developed and treated like full characters. A lot of the Bond girls inveted by Fleming were of the vulnerable kind. Vesper was one, Domino was one, Honey Ryder too... Elektra was a perverted damsel in distress in the Fleming tradition and it worked very well. Of course we had other types of Bond girls, more assertive, such as Pussy Galore or Octopussy, but they don't have to be spies, especially not the female equivalent of Bond. It doesn't work, because Bond is supposed to be the protagonist (and a macho one at that), a female Bond just dilutes his function in the narrative. It is atypical and it fails miserably.

BobJM
08-22-2006, 09:27 PM
Okay, I know I've posted a synopsis a few posts above, but this is one that I think could work too. It has elements from my last one, however, it is much more improved and, in my opinion, Bond-worthy.

007

Tension levels between M and Bond hit and all-time high when he fails to secure a briefcase in an illegal exchange in the Tajikistan Mountains. However, when an isolated African village is hit by some sort of new, deadly epidemic M sends Bond, trusting his instincts over the rest of her "00" operatives. What Bond discovers is a newly created virus, purposely released onto these villagers, killing each but one: a small infant girl.

Bond's mission gets even more complicated when a familiar face from the past emerges from death, leading an attack on MI6 and kidnapping M. With her life and all of London hanging in the balance, Bond must race the clock and travel to the ends of the earth to find out the true identity of this mystery man and discover his plans for the virus. With the help of a Austrailian Intelligence agent, Bond is in for the greatest challenge of his career.

END.

Now, the locations in this film would be:

- Fergana Valley, Tajikistan
- London, England
- Bucharest, Romania
- Austrailian Outback
- Uncharted Location in the Pacific

Now, as far as titles go, here's what I got:

- ROYAL EYE
- LIVE YOUR DEATH
- PAST IS PRESENT
- FACTS OF DEATH (post-Flemming novel with a virus in the plot)
- DYING TO LIVE

Tell me what you all think

Cinemaman
08-24-2006, 06:04 PM
Nolan is a big fan of Bond movies and he would be perfect choice, but he is too busy.

After The Prestige, he starts the shooting of TDK and then it's Post Production.

Then he will start working on The Prisoner and after it, he will come back to make BB3.

And only after BB3 (summer 2011) he will be free for Bond movies.

Darth Nata
08-29-2006, 12:55 AM
Nolan is a big fan of Bond movies and he would be perfect choice, but he is too busy.

After The Prestige, he starts the shooting of TDK and then it's Post Production.

Then he will start working on The Prisoner and after it, he will come back to make BB3.

And only after BB3 (summer 2011) he will be free for Bond movies.

Yeah thats it. Maybe after Batman 3, Nolan can make a Bond film with an all new cast etc.

Clouseau
08-31-2006, 12:57 AM
According to the interview with Barbara Brocolli, the next film will be an original story, but will continue on something from Casino Royale.

What's the connection going to be? There have been rumors about that there will be a new SPECTRE-like terrorist organization that is backing Le Chiffre. Could that be it or something else?
yes, the continued search to stop the new SPECTRE-like organization is what i'd heard the next one was gonna be about... they've been talking about that for months now, i believe... since at least April or so, if i remember correctly...

the Firestarter
12-04-2006, 11:31 PM
i think the new terrorist organization should be SPECTRE-like, but not use the same organization name or villains... to avoid confusion and/or inconsistency with other bond films. while this series is a reboot... i think it's best just to avoid the unnecessary confusion while keeping the series fresh... without repeating itself.

the Firestarter
12-04-2006, 11:32 PM
i think the new terrorist organization should be SPECTRE-like, but not use the same organization name or villains... to avoid confusion and/or inconsistency with other bond films. while this series is a reboot... i think it's best just to avoid the unnecessary confusion while keeping the series fresh... without repeating itself.

the Firestarter
12-04-2006, 11:32 PM
i think the new terrorist organization should be SPECTRE-like, but not use the same organization name or villains... to avoid confusion and/or inconsistency with other bond films. while this series is a reboot... i think it's best just to avoid the unnecessary confusion while keeping the series fresh... without repeating itself.

the Firestarter
12-04-2006, 11:38 PM
sorry, i didn't mean to repeat myself. it was an accident. honest.

The Englishman
12-05-2006, 04:00 PM
Okay, I know I've posted a synopsis a few posts above, but this is one that I think could work too. It has elements from my last one, however, it is much more improved and, in my opinion, Bond-worthy.

007

Tension levels between M and Bond hit and all-time high when he fails to secure a briefcase in an illegal exchange in the Tajikistan Mountains. However, when an isolated African village is hit by some sort of new, deadly epidemic M sends Bond, trusting his instincts over the rest of her "00" operatives. What Bond discovers is a newly created virus, purposely released onto these villagers, killing each but one: a small infant girl.

Bond's mission gets even more complicated when a familiar face from the past emerges from death, leading an attack on MI6 and kidnapping M. With her life and all of London hanging in the balance, Bond must race the clock and travel to the ends of the earth to find out the true identity of this mystery man and discover his plans for the virus. With the help of a Austrailian Intelligence agent, Bond is in for the greatest challenge of his career.

END.

Now, the locations in this film would be:

- Fergana Valley, Tajikistan
- London, England
- Bucharest, Romania
- Austrailian Outback
- Uncharted Location in the Pacific

Now, as far as titles go, here's what I got:

- ROYAL EYE
- LIVE YOUR DEATH
- PAST IS PRESENT
- FACTS OF DEATH (post-Flemming novel with a virus in the plot)
- DYING TO LIVE

Tell me what you all think

Some decent ideas.I guess you really want Bond to go to Austrailia??
Im sorry but i dont like any of those Titles, Titles with Death,Live or Die have been (excuse the pun) done to Death.

gogeta1
12-17-2006, 09:55 PM
I really hope that there are some sweet gadgets in the new bond movie!! that was one of the things i was looking forward to!!

Riven
12-19-2006, 09:43 AM
I really hope that there are some sweet gadgets in the new bond movie!! that was one of the things i was looking forward to!!
You need to get slapped in the face. :whatever:



I don't think they can use Blofeld anymore, but even if there was no legal problem, Blofeld has been weakened in DAF and FYEO and spoofed so often that I doubt they can reuse him.
Yeah... you really don't wanna invite Dr. Evil comparisons...



A large evil network gradually being uncovered would be great. You can't use SHMERSH because of the Cold War connotations... but something like SPECTRE would be okay, as long as it doesn't seem too much exactly like SPECTRE apart from the name. It needs certain aspects to set it apart.

HyperGogeta SS4
12-29-2006, 11:29 AM
Yeah gogeta I agree, I hope that the special effects and the gadgets are cool in this one too.

HyperGogeta SS4
12-29-2006, 11:29 AM
[quote=Riven]You need to get slapped in the face. :whatever:

Why does gogeta1 need to get slapped in the face? Just because he wants there to be some cool gadgets and special effects? I think that is pretty reasonable to want that stuff, maybe it is you that needs a slap across the face, you ever think about that?:cwink: