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LostSon88
03-10-2006, 11:18 PM
As opposed to introducing new mutants to take the forefront of the Brotherhood, would you have preferred that they had exercised the options on Tyler Mane, Kelly Hu and Ray Park and used them in X3?

I mean instead of Callisto, Arclight, Quills? the brotherhood in X3 could've been:

-Sabertooth
-Lady Deathstrike (assuming she somehow survived)
-Toad
-Juggernaut
-Pyro
-Phoenix
-Magneto

I mean can you just imagine that war environment in the trailer w/ a 3-way battle royale between Logan, Sabertooth & Deathstrike? It would've been amazing! But regardless, X3 is still shaping up to be great, I was just thinking about this, spur of the moment...:)

Thoughts?

xmen-rox!
03-10-2006, 11:20 PM
id like it but instead of lady deathstrike i would like callisto and psylocke

Iceman/Psylocke
03-10-2006, 11:20 PM
As opposed to introducing new mutants to take the forefront of the Brotherhood, would you have preferred that they had exercised the options on Tyler Mane, Kelly Hu and Ray Park and used them in X3?

I mean instead of Callisto, Arclight, Quills? the brotherhood in X3 could've been:

-Sabertooth
-Lady Deathstrike (assuming she somehow survived)
-Toad
-Juggernaut
-Pyro
-Phoenix
-Magneto

I mean can you just imagine that war environment in the trailer w/ a 3-way battle royale between Logan, Sabertooth & Deathstrike? It would've been amazing! But regardless, X3 is still shaping up to be amazing, I was just thinking about this, spur of the moment...:)

Thoughts?

Given that it's the final battle, they should probably all (well at least those who survived) be there. But it's always good to see new faces

the a1ant
03-10-2006, 11:23 PM
I wanted Deathstrike to come back (somehow) and join up with Magneto, but I don't care much for Toad/ Sabretooth making come-backs, lol. Well...Toad was really cool, so maybe Toad coming back :D

Phoenix342
03-10-2006, 11:23 PM
I wouldve liked to have seen the original ones but since we get to see a whole new army made of tons of mutants i'm not really that worried about it at all.

Spidey 2007
03-10-2006, 11:24 PM
yes, i hoped to high heaven we would have sabretooth back for x3 to really have an all out war with wolverine, im not talkin no lame-o X1 fight either. in this fight they would have some type of "history" they could have dialouge in the fight, it would have been a drag out epic fight just between them.

id have loved to see toad again, anything from the previous 2 films showing up unknown would have been like seeing the ultimate warrior come back Live......the definition of adrenaline rush.

lordofthenerds
03-10-2006, 11:26 PM
I don't really care about Deathstrike, Toad, or Sabretooth. They should have put in Blob insted of Quills and Avalanche instead of Arclight though.

xmen-rox!
03-10-2006, 11:28 PM
hahah yah i wish ricky hagord or w/e his name was avelanche!

JustABill
03-10-2006, 11:29 PM
The following was a rumored list of all the various potential Brotherhooders that did not make it into this film....

Scarlet Witch
Avalanche
Cannonball
Sabretooth
Toad
Gambit

LostSon88
03-10-2006, 11:31 PM
yes, i hoped to high heaven we would have sabretooth back for x3 to really have an all out war with wolverine, im not talkin no lame-o X1 fight either. in this fight they would have some type of "history" they could have dialouge in the fight, it would have been a drag out epic fight just between them.

I know right? I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see a rematch between these two. I mean no disrespect to Mr. Singer but that fight in X1 was very underwhelming...I mean, its F***IN Sabertooth vs. Wolverine! This is the best we got?

Hopefully this will be addressed in the Wolverine spin-off...The X1 fight simply doesn't do these two characters and their rivalry justice.

The Comedian
03-10-2006, 11:34 PM
Hopefully they recast sabretooth in the Wolverine spinoff as well

The Comedian
03-10-2006, 11:35 PM
I can understand why tehy didn't use Cannonball or Avalanche, I imagine their FX are much more expensive than Quill

lordofthenerds
03-10-2006, 11:35 PM
Hopefully they recast sabretooth in the Wolverine spinoff as well
You didn't like Tyler Mane?

LostSon88
03-10-2006, 11:37 PM
Hopefully they recast sabretooth in the Wolverine spinoff as well

I don't. I like consistiency. I blame the Tyler Mane's portrayal of Sabertooth on Singers direction (again, no disrespect intended, just an opinion.)

The Original Bamfer
03-10-2006, 11:37 PM
I say... bring back (or replace Quill) with Toad. toad just seems like he belongs there.

The Comedian
03-10-2006, 11:37 PM
You didn't like Tyler Mane?

Actually it was hard to tell to be perfectly honest. They didn't give him much of a chance to prove his acting abilities, so I didn't think much of him. I also wished his look was a bit different, I like Sabreooth with the shorter hair better. And the lion growl was just stupid.

LostSon88
03-10-2006, 11:42 PM
I say... bring back (or replace Quill) with Toad. toad just seems like he belongs there.

Can you just imagine...

-Toad vs. Beast
-Wolverine vs. Sabertooth AND Lady Deathstrike

JustABill
03-10-2006, 11:44 PM
Toad was suppose to come back in X2 originally and fight Nightcrawler. I would be more interested in that fight, than Beast vs Toad. :o

The Comedian
03-10-2006, 11:47 PM
Toad was suppose to come back in X2 originally and fight Nightcrawler. I would be more interested in that fight, than Beast vs Toad. :o

I think tht would've been cool. I wish Nigtcrawler was back for X3

JustABill
03-10-2006, 11:48 PM
So do I. So do I. He's my favorite character, but alas, I deal.

The Comedian
03-10-2006, 11:50 PM
So do I. So do I. He's my favorite character, but alas, I deal.

I've reached the point of slightly pissed acceptance as well, but there better be a good payoff in X3

TNC9852002
03-10-2006, 11:51 PM
The only characters that I miss are Sabes and Toad... :(

-TNC

JustABill
03-10-2006, 11:52 PM
I think it's been said already, but the only place to find out what happened to Nightcrawler will be in the game.

Now that actually I see footage of this film in the trailers, especially the second one. I just can't really see Nighty fight in in all this war and chaos.

LostSon88
03-10-2006, 11:54 PM
I really hope that the final battle has little sub-battles between the characters i.e.

Pyro vs. Iceman (it's GOTTA HAPPEN!)
Colussus vs. Juggernaut
Wolverine & Storm vs. Magneto & Phoenix?
Beast vs. Quills?
Kitty vs. Arc Light?

The Comedian
03-10-2006, 11:54 PM
I think it's been said already, but the only place to find out what happened to Nightcrawler will be in the game.

Now that actually I see footage of this film in the trailers, especially the second one. I just can't really see Nighty fight in in all this war and chaos.

I hope the game gives a good explanation, but It would be nice to have seen him even up the X-men side a bit in the war, this is on the assumpion theres not a bunch of side switching by people like multipple man, psylocke, phoenix, et.

chaseter
03-10-2006, 11:59 PM
As opposed to introducing new mutants to take the forefront of the Brotherhood, would you have preferred that they had exercised the options on Tyler Mane, Kelly Hu and Ray Park and used them in X3?

I mean instead of Callisto, Arclight, Quills? the brotherhood in X3 could've been:

-Sabertooth
-Lady Deathstrike (assuming she somehow survived)
-Toad
-Juggernaut
-Pyro
-Phoenix
-Magneto

I mean can you just imagine that war environment in the trailer w/ a 3-way battle royale between Logan, Sabertooth & Deathstrike? It would've been amazing! But regardless, X3 is still shaping up to be great, I was just thinking about this, spur of the moment...:)

Thoughts?
I would of liked Sabertooth, Lady Deathstrike, NEVER TOAD, Juggernaut, Phoenix, Magneto, Callisto, Arclight, NO QUILLS, Mystique, Psylocke, and Pyro would of been a strong Brotherhood. Seeing Wolverine fight Sabertooth and Deathstrike would of been awesome. Colossus could come in and try to help but get smacked by Juggernaut and start figthing with him. Callisto, Arclight, Psylocke, and Pyro could fight Iceman, Kitty, Rogue, and Beast. Storm could square off against Jean, or at least try.

chaseter
03-11-2006, 12:01 AM
The only characters that I miss are Sabes and Toad... :(

-TNC

Toad sucks and was a horrible character. Who cares where he went? He was zapped by Storm and drowned in the water.

WorthyStevens
03-11-2006, 12:03 AM
Toad sucks and was a horrible character. Who cares where he went? He was zapped by Storm and drowned in the water.

I think he was already dead from shock of hearing that horrid line said by Storm. :D

LostSon88
03-11-2006, 12:11 AM
Actually that line was from Joss Whedon's script of X-men...apparently the line was supposed to be humorous and according to Whedon, Halle delivered it far too serious than he had intended it to be.

The Apocalypse
03-11-2006, 12:13 AM
I think he was already dead from shock of hearing that horrid line said by Storm. :D

hahaha yeah I look away from the screen when I hear that line. It sucks. :down

TNC9852002
03-11-2006, 12:15 AM
Here we go again with that overrated "bad line"...

It's.Been.Six.Years.Oh.My.God.

We get it.. :p

-TNC

WorthyStevens
03-11-2006, 12:17 AM
Here we go again with that overrated "bad line"...

It's.Been.Six.Years.Oh.My.God.

We get it.. :p

-TNC

You didn't expect that line to be brought up when the topic of 'Storm zapping Toad in X1' came up? :p

JustABill
03-11-2006, 12:18 AM
Hey! The line could have been even worse.

Toad: Please no!
Storm: Do you know what happens to a Toad when it's struck by lightning?
Toad: -fried-
Storm: We get dinner. -flies off screen to get Toad's legs-

chaseter
03-11-2006, 12:21 AM
Wolverine: "What happens when a soldier is stabbed by 12 inch long adamantium claws? Same thing that happens to everything else."

TNC9852002
03-11-2006, 12:23 AM
You didn't expect that line to be brought up when the topic of 'Storm zapping Toad in X1' came up? :p
It's like not expecting to get wet in a bathtub.. :p

-TNC

Super Flight
03-11-2006, 12:24 AM
I liked how they added new charactors, it makes x-3 different.

chaseter
03-11-2006, 12:25 AM
It's like not expecting to get wet in a bathtub.. :p

-TNC

That is why I take dirt baths.

WorthyStevens
03-11-2006, 12:26 AM
It's like not expecting to get wet in a bathtub.. :p

-TNC

That line will always be synonymous with that scene...

:p

LostSon88
03-11-2006, 12:30 AM
I liked how they added new charactors, it makes x-3 different.

I agree. But at the same time, you can't help but dream about the possibilities of what could've been...

http://www.mtv.com/movies/photos/x/xmen_3/15.jpg

VS.

http://www.worldoffandom.com/images/sabertooth2.jpg
http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/021016/17282__xmeyur1_l.jpg

on Alcatraz Island

It would've been amazing. :D

X-Maniac
03-11-2006, 02:02 AM
The only thing with the return of Sabretooth, Toad and Deathstrike is that it would have been like Mutant Resurrection when Phoenix is also added into the mix. Sorta X-Men: Day of the Dead.

Maybe all three mutants are somehow shown as being captured and held somewhere (Muir Island?, Alcatraz?)..but I doubt it, and I don't know how they would have retrieved the body of Deathstrike from Stryker's flooded base.

josh8
03-11-2006, 03:32 AM
i think it would've been great to have sabretooth back (hopefully tyler mane has been in an intensive acting school program since the first movie). his return wouldnt be hard to explain. he survived and was captured by athorities.

but i think singer really dropped the ball on his x1 henchmen. i like mystique, but she's supposed to be a criminal mastermind, not a servant. x2 improved her a lot.

sabretooth was an idiot. he's supposed to be a ruthless criminal that makes nasty remarks while killing you. he was as scary as a housecat in x1.

my brotherhood lineup would've been mags, phoenix, mystique (if she had made it), sabretooth, pyro, and avalanche. it's just not the brotherhood without pyro and avalanche. haha throw in destiny too. they could've made her interesting.

theJust
03-11-2006, 03:34 AM
well i think they should of had sabretooth come back at the end of X2, if anywhere. instead of having the utterly pointless and dull character of deathstrike(as far as x2 goes) beating wolverine around for 5 minutes.
you couldve had words there, and sabretooth taunting him. they hinted at the history somewhat in the first with him taking his dogtags... why didnt they keep that going?!?
but as far as X3 goes, the brotherhood of rejects doesnt have any striking characters as far as looks. juggernaut's almost the size of the every man. toad would of been fitting (considering he's always been in the brotherhood)
the blob would of been huge.
im just thinking of the shot when theyre walking down that bridge, and nobody really stands out, they all look somewhat normal, thats what is bugging me.

Avalanche
03-11-2006, 06:23 AM
I'm not sure Deathstryke would have a place. She was under mind control in X2 after all. If not under mind control, would she have been a 'bad guy'?

I'm pretty indifferent to Toad and Sabretooth, though I thinki it might be difficult to explain why they'd suddenly popped up again in X3 having been absent from X2.

Halcohol
03-11-2006, 06:25 AM
I still miss the Nightcrawler vs. Toad fight scripted to take place at Alkali Lake. If they brought Toad back in X3 we could probably see him and Beast have a pretty decent fight.

LEX
03-11-2006, 08:24 AM
I agree. But at the same time, you can't help but dream about the possibilities of what could've been...

http://www.mtv.com/movies/photos/x/xmen_3/15.jpg

VS.

http://www.worldoffandom.com/images/sabertooth2.jpg
http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/021016/17282__xmeyur1_l.jpg

on Alcatraz Island

It would've been amazing. :D
The fight would've been really cool. It's a pity that both of them didn't make it. I'd love to see Sabretooth, Toad and Deathstrike in the final battle, especially Deathstrike. She's awesome as heck.

I'd have Magneto, Mystique, Sabretooth, Toad, Blob (replacing Quill), Avalanche (replacing Arclight), Callisto and her army of Morlocks, Pyro and Lady Deathstrike as the whole Brotherhood in the final battle. And Dark Phoenix, too. :up:

cynicusprime
03-11-2006, 10:56 AM
Toad and Sabretooth do nothing for me. Deadstrike was lovely as portrayed by Kelly Hu, but she's over. It was a very minimally used part. Nightcrawler would be nice to have back, but I understand the reasoning. Just because someone shows up once doesn't mean they have to be a permanent fixture on the team.
I like the way the new lineup is shaping up...with one notable absence, of course: Gambit. But someone has said that they would rather give him a full chance rather than sticking him in a movie with all these characters already vying for screentime. Here's hoping for X4 or Wolverine.

GNR
03-11-2006, 11:39 AM
Singer butchered Sabretooth and Deathstrike so badly.

LostSon88
03-11-2006, 05:11 PM
I'm not sure Deathstryke would have a place. She was under mind control in X2 after all. If not under mind control, would she have been a 'bad guy'?

Deathstrike would've sided w/ the brotherhood since it was humans that turned her into a mindless drone...in addition to the fact that she'd want revenge on Wolverine.

The Batman
03-11-2006, 05:22 PM
I wouldve like to see Avalanche, and maybe scarlet witch

Leon_0
03-11-2006, 05:24 PM
Personally, I would of liked if the brotherhood had pyro and mistique ofcourse, but also Avalanche, Toad, sabretooth and quicksilver (pietro is my favourite X villian <3)

LostSon88
05-31-2006, 10:24 PM
Hey y'all

So now that most of us have seen X3 and the end result, I thought I'd ressurrect this thread of mine and see what you guys think now that you've seen how the battles in X3 turned out.

:)

Donnie Darko
05-31-2006, 11:25 PM
I could see Sabretooth or Toad coming back being interesting. However, the only way I would ever accept Deathstrike would be as a Danger Room sequence, which I think would be really cool in X4 or Wolverine.

The Kid
05-31-2006, 11:31 PM
Sabertooth, deathstrike, gambit, toad, sentinels, and cyclops living would have been nice, yeah.

supermarvelman
05-31-2006, 11:34 PM
I thought Toad was in X3?

LostSon88
05-31-2006, 11:44 PM
That wasn't Toad...just some guy with similar powers I guess.

Like that pawn that was able to teleport during the final battle...

supermarvelman
05-31-2006, 11:46 PM
are you sure?

supermarvelman
05-31-2006, 11:46 PM
he had green skin and everything

Super-Bats
05-31-2006, 11:51 PM
maybe Sabretooth and Deathstryke will be in the Wolverine spin-off.

At the very least, Sabretooth should be. what's a Wolvie story without his arch-nemesis Sabretooth.

Perhaps, they could have all 3 as part of the Weapon X program.......Imagine that 3 way fight!!!!! Claw vs. Claw vs. Claw........

Anthony05
05-31-2006, 11:58 PM
I wish Quill and Arclight were replaced with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

Super-Bats
05-31-2006, 11:58 PM
Or Gambit and Psylocke.....instead of Quill and Arclight

supermarvelman
05-31-2006, 11:59 PM
was that Marrow fighting Wolverine in the woods, if so they turned her into a man.

Anthony05
05-31-2006, 11:59 PM
Or Gambit and Psylocke.....instead of Quill and Arclight

Yes, basically anyone but Quill and Arclight. hahaa.

The Dude
06-01-2006, 12:11 AM
was that Marrow fighting Wolverine in the woods, if so they turned her into a man.

No, it was Spyke

supermarvelman
06-01-2006, 12:14 AM
Should'nt he have a healing factor, I mean he has bones popping out of his skin.

The Guard
06-01-2006, 01:08 AM
We've seen Sabertooth fight, seen Toad do his thing, and we saw Deathstrike do hers. I don't need to see it again. I'd rather see something new. And a Brotherhood consisting of Magneto, Phoenix, Juggernaut, Pyro and others pretty much kicks ass.

Nell2ThaIzzay
06-01-2006, 01:11 AM
I prefer they did what they did, because I'd rather see more characters introduced than the same henchman badguys rehashed.

The films need to move forward instead of having the same threat every time.

The Kid
06-01-2006, 01:13 AM
maybe Sabretooth and Deathstryke will be in the Wolverine spin-off.

At the very least, Sabretooth should be. what's a Wolvie story without his arch-nemesis Sabretooth.

Perhaps, they could have all 3 as part of the Weapon X program.......Imagine that 3 way fight!!!!! Claw vs. Claw vs. Claw........


Absolutely agreed. Please fox, respect the source on this. If you're going to do weapon x, do it right... please...