Official Excalibur and/or Captain Britain movie discussion thread

[BT18]

yes a hypothetical, highly unlikely, Captain Britain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Britain) or Excalibur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excalibur_%28comics%29) movie. All discussion can go here.

Couldn't find a previous thread from searching "Britain" or "Excalibur" in titles of marvel films threads.

So here we go. I'll just post a cast that I think would work for the latter. Nightcrawler and Kitty could obviously be played by the actors who've already played them. Although a recast wouldn't be out of the question (a 4th actress in the case of Kitty).

Meggan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meggan): Sienna Guillory (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0347149/)
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3986/250pxmeggan18sz.jpghttp://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5765/1sg5op.jpg

Rachel Summers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Summers): Thora Birch (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000301/)
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1935/rachelsummers1iw.jpghttp://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8941/c3755thannualprimetimeemmyawar.jpg

Captain Britain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Britain) : Jason Statham (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005458/)
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6269/cap20brit20no20mask20resize9ta.jpghttp://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3644/jasonstathamisdatingagain25wr.jpg

[BT18]

and preferably if you could get a good wig for Statham BTW.

http://noezbuckets.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/mandy-moore.jpg

[Captain_America]

Thing is, I can't really see Statham wearing a wig. Whenever I see him now though, I think him as Hitman not Vin Diesel. :up:

[BT18]

Hitman would be way too derivative of too many of his other roles. Way, way, to much.

Another underworld quiet guy for hire in an expensive suit.

You probably can't "see" him wearing a wig because you have YET to see him in a wig. That would happen to someone who could only see someone playing role which are basically replications of other roles they've already played. Kurt-Russell-should-play-Nick-Fury syndrome.

[Captain_America]

Daniel Craig should be Captain Britain IMO. :up:

[Eddie Dean]

Meggan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meggan): Sienna Guillory (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0347149/)
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3986/250pxmeggan18sz.jpghttp://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5765/1sg5op.jpg
Good casting.

[Captain_America]

Good casting.

Indeed it is. :up:

[Union Jack]

i'd prefer to see a union jack movie with sean bean as jack,jason stathem is a southerner,whereas jack is a northerner...hence sean bean being right for the part with him coming from sheffield.

i say stathem would be better as baron blood.

i'd love to see a cap britain movie too...

[The Englishman]

Me too.....:up:

[BT18]

sean bean is too old. I'm open to other people besides Statham, he's just the biggest star right now I think'd work.

[The Englishman]

I can't think of anyone who could play Captain Britain....... But i think David Tennant would make a fantastic Pete Wisdom!!

[The Englishman]

Hello??

[BT18]

Hello??

I didn't know who he was so I googled him. He seems a bit old and frumpy looking for a character I consider more suave and young. Closer in age to Kitty Pryde. mid-to-late 20's.

Daniel Brocklebank or Matthew Goode come to mind. Both good actors. Check out The Hole for examples of the former and Match Point for examples by the latter.

[giggs11uk]

as a brit myself i would love to see a captain britian movie but i live in america now and i can tell that the typical american wont see this movie based soley on the name and a huge hollywood budget for a movie that is only going to make money in england isnt going to happen so if they make one it will be realy crappy quality in order to make a profit and i dont think anyone wants to see cap butchered on film. so i would rather they dont make the film

[Manic]

as a brit myself i would love to see a captain britian movie but i live in america now and i can tell that the typical american wont see this movie based soley on the name and a huge hollywood budget for a movie that is only going to make money in england isnt going to happen so if they make one it will be realy crappy quality in order to make a profit and i dont think anyone wants to see cap butchered on film. so i would rather they dont make the film
A little punctuation goes a long way.

Anyway, I agree with you. Not a lot of Americans are going to see a movie about Captain Britain. We love the UK, but if it ain't on Public Television (or at least starring Rowan Atkinson), it's not getting our attention.

However, I think an Excalibur movie would work. I have the early draft of an unfinished Excalibur fanscript (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187215) over in the FanFic forum that I started writing as the sequel to X2 (time travel? What was I thinking?!). If someone out there liked that piece of junk, imagine what a real writer could do with an Excalibur movie.

[The Englishman]

A little punctuation goes a long way.

Anyway, I agree with you. Not a lot of Americans are going to see a movie about Captain Britain. We love the UK, but if it ain't on Public Television (or at least starring Rowan Atkinson), it's not getting our attention.


Why Not??

[Manic]

Why Not??
We don't get a lot of your television shows imported, to be honest. The only ways you can catch a British show here in the states is if you receive the BBC America (which I do), or if you watch PBS on weekends. PBS is the Public Broadcasting Service. It's the only network run entirely by donations, and many of its affiliate stations choose their programming based on pledge drives and some random employee's personal preference. This is the most famous source of UK shows in the US. Typically, they'll run a marathon of episodes of some popular-yet-old British comedy (ie. Mr. Bean, Blackadder, Red Dwarf), and ask viewers to send money if they want to see these episodes run again in the future. We... don't get a lot of British shows. So we're just not used to being exposed to British entertainment outside of an old comedy or two, and the occasional Guy Richie movie.

Then, of course, you've got the US' overwhelming sense of nationalism. The reason some of us are afraid a Captain America movie won't do well overseas is the same reason I don't think many Americans will see a Captain Britain movie.

Plus, let's be honest, how many of us Americans have heard of Captain Britain? If you never read Excalibur, chances are you haven't.

[The Englishman]

That's a bit **** though. That can be seen as a bit arrogent to the outside world, "Im not going to see that because the Hero is British and not American". Im not attacking you or your country but i don't like that attitude. Im very patrotic as you can tell by my name, but i still love movies from America, Hong Kong or Europe. Alot of Americans are missing out on alot of brillient British TV Shows and Music because of this.

[The Limey]

I think a decent CB movie would be incredible and I'm not sure I would agree with the generalisation on whether the U.S. would watch this movie - if it was well done and there was a link with a U.S. hero they may do. My experience of the States is that most Americans go nuts over the British accent and all things British anyway - although we're viewed as a bit quaint this adds to the charm for our U.S. cousins I believe.

The market issue could be further countered if the story/script revolved not just around the UK but the Commonwealth (which our Queen is still Head of). I don't know what the penetration of cinema theatres is in the Commonwealth but the fact that it represents a market size of 1.8 billion citizens from 52 nation states - all lead by Her Majesty (Gawd Bless 'er) should get any studio exec. fairly excited.

It is a very real and active global organisation which the Brits kickstarted and still basically manage. So CB would definitely be called to action if it was in trouble (and he would anyway). In fact a key declaration about what the Commonwealth stands for, by the Queen, is the sort of thing CB or any hero would be happy to stand by:

“The Commonwealth bears no resemblance to the empires of the past. It is an entirely new conception built on the highest qualities of the spirit of man: friendship, loyalty, and the desire for freedom and peace."


http://www.thecommonwealth.org/

Should we point this out to Marvel do you think?

Cheers,

The Limey

[The Limey]

Hey all,

If you want to help to get a Captain Britain movie made please go to facebook and join the captain britain movie petition group.

your support would be much appreciated.

R,

The Limey

[The Guard]

A superhero named after a country? Ridiculous.

[Hypestyle]

I'd go see it.. put the original team together and go for it.. crazy gang as villains..

[X-Maniac]

A superhero named after a country? Ridiculous.

So you also don't like Captain America then?

[cerealkiller182]

Pete Wisdom- Stuart Townhend
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8365/petewisdomfu2.jpg
http://www.celebrity-exchange.com/celebs/photos60/stuart-townsend-04.jpg

[The Englishman]

Thats great casting there for Wisdom but lets foget about an Excalibur movie and cast a MI-13 movie instead.........

[OwlBoy]

http://static.whatsontv.co.uk/images/08317_173810__AS03848.jpg

Rupert Penry-Jones for Captain Britain

[cerealkiller182]

Union Jack- Jason Statham (im still rooting for this to happen in the Cap America movie)
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/f/fb/Jack_(Brian_Falsworth)_002.jpg/200px-Jack_(Brian_Falsworth)_002.jpg
http://phasezero.ca/img/statham/statham1.jpg

[X-Maniac]

Union Jack- Jason Statham (im still rooting for this to happen in the Cap America movie)

A set-up for a spin-off would be fantastic, though the US would never make this Captain Britain movie - it would need to be a British production. The name Excalibur is more international, but also a bit misleading considering the Boorman movie on the Arthurian legend.

I'd love to see a Captain Britain/Excalibur movie though.

[spider_man_2]

Who'd be the villain? Mad Jim Jaspers?

[Cagefighterkip]

i dont see a CAPTAIN BRITAIN movie coming, but i think seeing an EXCALIBUR movie is possible, considering all the XMEN spinoffs coming... wolverine, magneto, deadpool, young x-men and whatnot...

[The Englishman]

MI-13, not Excalibur!!!!!

[cerealkiller182]

MI-13, not Excalibur!!!!!

Face it, this is more of a cast English Marvel characters. At least thats the way Im treating it :oldrazz:

[The Englishman]

http://static.whatsontv.co.uk/images/08317_173810__AS03848.jpg

Rupert Penry-Jones for Captain Britain

Good call.....:up:

[GlasgowBat]

captain Britain? now there's a disaster waiting to happen..........

[Pluto]

DANIEL CRAIG For Cap Britain!!!!!

Whatcha think?

[The Englishman]

DANIEL CRAIG For Cap Britain!!!!!

Whatcha think?
Yes good choice, but id like either Rupert Penry-Jones or Paul Betany....:huh:

[OsGom]

I think an Xcalibur movie is feasible in America as long as they preserve the humor and wonder of the first 50 issues. The humor IMO is what was most endearing about the series. They should adapt the original storyline with Rachel escaping from Mojoworld and being pursued by the Warwolves. Add Mojo as the main villain and they you should have a funny action packed comicbook adaptation hopefully launching a franchise. Also include Widget and Technet.
Unfortunately since the Xmen characters are Fox properties I don't believe this would ever happen. That studio isn't much for taking risks and thinking outside the box.

Rachel - Scarlett Johanssen
Kitty - I like Ellen Page. She has Kitty's pluckiness.
Captain Britain - Daniel Craig would be good.
Megan - Sienna Guillory
Nightcrawler - I didn't like Alan Cummings. i think there are probably better candidates but I can't think of any.

[Artistsean]

I know I may not be very familiar with Captain Britain or not as familiar as some others are, but...

The way I would love to see them handle Captain Britain is how Shawn of the Dead or Hot Fuzz was done.
Filmed in England, with English actors, no mention or reference to America.
They shouldn't even make him a parody or anything, nothing like advertising him as England's answer to Captain America or anything like that.

Also, as far as character goes I'd like to see him the way Alan Davis said he was presented as when he worked on him and redesigned his costume.
He said he was uptight, stiff, no sense of humor, and not competent or ready for his job.

As for actors to play him? I don't know, but he should probably be British. Alan Davis designed him to look like a character named Garth, physically perfect in every way, like Michelangelo's David on Steroids. Garth, from pics I have seen sort of looks like Brock Samson from Venture Brothers, very imposing and muscular. So I think they should try to get someone who could look the part.

(This is also how I'd like to see Alpha Flight handled. filmed in Canada, with Canadian actors for the most part, and no mention of America or advertising it as Canada's answer to superheroes. Just sort of advertise them as a superhero team and just base it all in Canada.)

[Manic]

I know I may not be very familiar with Captain Britain or not as familiar as some others are, but...
Well, as long as you have even a passing familiarity of the charac--

nothing like advertising him as England's answer to Captain America or anything like that.
Wow. You really aren't that familiar with Captain Britain, are you? Beyond name similarities, I don't think anyone has EVER associated Cap Britain with Cap America. There's pretty much no chance Captain America would ever come up in a Captain Britain movie.

Now, if they were to make a Captain Midlands movie...

[Hypestyle]

..I'd love to see excalibur as a cartoon movie/series, use the Alan Davis art designs..

as far as live action.. nice to talk about, but I suspect Feige and company probably look at this as not a priority.. if Marvel was Warner Bros., maybe..

[Manic]

If Marvel was Warner Bros, we'd be looking at the same two superheroes decade after decade, followed by a bunch of non-superhero movies from their MAX or Icon imprints.

[Artistsean]

Well, as long as you have even a passing familiarity of the charac--


Wow. You really aren't that familiar with Captain Britain, are you? Beyond name similarities, I don't think anyone has EVER associated Cap Britain with Cap America. There's pretty much no chance Captain America would ever come up in a Captain Britain movie.

Now, if they were to make a Captain Midlands movie...

true, I am not real familiar with the character, but what i meant was

I think it would be cool to do it like Hot Fuzz or Shawn of the Dead,
a totally British (actors, location, etc.) movie shown in America. But I wouldn't want them to advertise them like they are England's answer to American superheroes.
I just wouldn't want him to be a parody, its hard for me to describe. If I need to go more into it I can, if I didn't get across what I meant that is.

(The only reason I mention Captain America, besides the name, is that Alan Davis mentioned that when coming up with his character they made him sort of opposite of Captain America. He wasn't born for the superhero job, or the patriotic symbol of his country, like Steve Rogers was.)

A cartoon series could be really cool too. I would love it. It should still be based in England and have English sounding voice actors. But that would work.
That would actually work really well. That way you can have characters look like comic heroes and wear costumes and all and not have to change stuff. You can have Brian Braddock be a tall bulky guy (bigger than everyone like a Brock Samson) the way Davis designed him.
Then you can even bring in characters from the Davis run like the Crazy Gang, I think they are called.

Captain Britain is a character I could see Marvel actually making a movie of, after they make Thor, Captain America, the Avengers, and they build up a successful franchise for their movies,
I think Captain Britain is actually just a matter of time.

[The Englishman]

true, I am not real familiar with the character, but what i meant was

I think it would be cool to do it like Hot Fuzz or Shawn of the Dead,
a totally British (actors, location, etc.) movie shown in America. But I wouldn't want them to advertise them like they are England's answer to American superheroes.
I just wouldn't want him to be a parody, its hard for me to describe. If I need to go more into it I can, if I didn't get across what I meant that is.

(The only reason I mention Captain America, besides the name, is that Alan Davis mentioned that when coming up with his character they made him sort of opposite of Captain America. He wasn't born for the superhero job, or the patriotic symbol of his country, like Steve Rogers was.)

A cartoon series could be really cool too. I would love it. It should still be based in England and have English sounding voice actors. But that would work.
That would actually work really well. That way you can have characters look like comic heroes and wear costumes and all and not have to change stuff. You can have Brian Braddock be a tall bulky guy (bigger than everyone like a Brock Samson) the way Davis designed him.
Then you can even bring in characters from the Davis run like the Crazy Gang, I think they are called.

Captain Britain is a character I could see Marvel actually making a movie of, after they make Thor, Captain America, the Avengers, and they build up a successful franchise for their movies,
I think Captain Britain is actually just a matter of time.

I hope your right because i think it could work too and i dont buy into the fact that it wont do well because he is British, i mean why not, James Bond is British and he seems to do all right?

[Brian Braddock]

..I'd love to see excalibur as a cartoon movie/series, use the Alan Davis art designs..



Oh hell yes....................

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/CBtpb1-3.jpg


I'll make no bones about it - aesthetically, ^^^^^ is one of the best comicbook costume designs of all time in my humble opinion.

Only thing is, they had to change it to a simpler design because the colourist kept getting the lines/areas confused and coloured it wrong.

Imagine how much harder it would be if it was in animated form.

[shadowdog]

I would love it if they made this film
love Excalibur, love MI:13
If they wanted to they could start an Excalibur movie with Kurt or Kitty leaving the states to join up, if they wanted to carry over an already established character of course.
Personally, I would prefer an MI:13 movie
Spitfire and Black Knight?
Yes please!

[The Englishman]

I would love it if they made this film
love Excalibur, love MI:13
If they wanted to they could start an Excalibur movie with Kurt or Kitty leaving the states to join up, if they wanted to carry over an already established character of course.
Personally, I would prefer an MI:13 movie
Spitfire and Black Knight?
Yes please!
Yes me too!!!

[Artistsean]

That is true in animation, but for something like Captain Britain's costume it shouldn't be that hard.

[The Englishman]

So what would work better, Excalibur or MI-13??

[cerealkiller182]

combination of both

[PrometheusHarpe]

How about Gabriel Macht as Captain Britain/Brian Braddock and Misha Collins as Pete Wisdom:

Gabriel has that whole high-born look, square jaw, total do-gooder.

http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Gabriel-Macht2.jpghttp://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/captainbritain5.jpg


And Misha has that unkempt, looks-like-trouble, kinda surly, but still suave and yeah you know you're going to go there even if you shouldn't look. Plus, the killer blue eyes, which for me? Very important for Pete.

http://hotcelebs.today.com/files/2009/09/misha-collins-castiel.jpghttp://marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/c/ca/Petewisdom.PNG/440px-Petewisdom.PNG

[Brian Braddock]

If my fellow American posters can demand that Captain America only be played by an American, I think it's only fair than us Brits can do the same for Captain Britain.

So, no to the Spirit playing CB for me.

As for Pete, I dont know any of Collins' work, but if he's a good actor and can pull Wisdom's accent off then I dont see why not.

[Brian Braddock]

That is true in animation, but for something like Captain Britain's costume it shouldn't be that hard.

Yeah, in live action it would look absolutely brilliant.

[Manic]

As for Pete, I dont know any of Collins' work, but if he's a good actor and can pull Wisdom's accent off then I dont see why not.
What accent does Pete Wisdom have, anyway? I always imagined him sounding a lot like Michael Cain (I'm an American. I need to use a reference instead of just naming off accents).

[Brian Braddock]

Born and raised in London (although I cant find anything that says what area) so yeah, Michael Cain is as good a reference as any.

[cerealkiller182]

Pete Wisdom- Stuart Townhend
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8365/petewisdomfu2.jpg
http://www.celebrity-exchange.com/celebs/photos60/stuart-townsend-04.jpg

Bump for Pete Wisdom (even if he is playing Fandrall)

[chamber-music]

What accent does Pete Wisdom have, anyway? I always imagined him sounding a lot like Michael Cain (I'm an American. I need to use a reference instead of just naming off accents).

Seeming as his a Constantine knock off I'm thinking sort of Londoner accent. Spike from Buffy kind sounding.

[Doc Ock]

I kinda hope more for a Captain Britain movie more than Captain America as I thought he was a cooler character (Excalibur FTW). And I do think a Brit should definitely play him!

[Manic]

It's not like there's a shortage of British actors out there, even in Hollywood. I don't think anyone could conceive of a non-Brit playing Captain Britain. I mean, it's not like he's Bridget effing Jones.

Any thoughts on who should play Meggan? Psylocke (because she needs to at least make a cameo)?

[chamber-music]

Joanna Page from Gavin and Stacey/Love Actually could play Meggan.