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FrankCastle6
03-12-2006, 10:07 PM
so like...who can beat superman??? i am not to into his comics....but who could do it? isn't he like...invincible
Spike_x1
03-12-2006, 11:37 PM
Doomsday has killed Superman before, but he's been watered down significantly in recent years.
Darkseid too, was stronger than Superman and his Omega Beams are capable of wiping Superman from existance. But like Doomsday, Darkseid has been watered down quite a bit too.
In a straight fight, the Parasite would beat Superman every time. Of course, the true Parasite (Rudy) was killed off about 5 years ago and his replacement (Alexandra) is very easily defeated (a layer of clothing can stop her in her tracks).
With kryptonite powering him, Metallo has easily pounded Superman into the ground before. Without kryptonite, Metallo can still hold his own, usually with the help of some sort of gimmick (like his Cerberus/indestructible body, or the geo-magnet). Of course, Metallo's robot body has been taken from him recently, and he too is not really much of a threat anymore.
The Atomic Skull had strength on par with Superman, and he originally had invulnerability similar to Superman's when he was first introduced, but that power seems to have been retconned (and now it doesn't make sense that he can take a punch from Superman, but the force of a bullet's impact will take him out :confused: ). Unfortunately, the Skull was killed off a few months ago.
There are a number of other members of Superman's own rogues gallery who have a good chance of defeating Superman in a fight, but most of them have been forgotten by the current writers. And it seems that the few more well-known Superman villains who haven't been forgotten and once had a strong chance of beating him (listed above) have been either watered down, killed off, or had their powers taken away.
Of course, there are always the characters who aren't necessary limited to Metropolis who have the potential to single-handedly defeat Superman, such as Dr. Fate, Captain Marvel, the Spectre, Zoom, the Flash, Mordru, and many others.
not to mention Batman with is krytonite ring, and his prep-time. also wonderwoman with a her superior fighting skills can beat him. Not to mention myxy could kill him wtih a thought. Then theirs captain marvel who could beat superman, and then theirs the greek gods and other gods etc.
FrankCastle6
03-13-2006, 08:31 AM
Doomsday has killed Superman before, but he's been watered down significantly in recent years.
Darkseid too, was stronger than Superman and his Omega Beams are capable of wiping Superman from existance. But like Doomsday, Darkseid has been watered down quite a bit too.
In a straight fight, the Parasite would beat Superman every time. Of course, the true Parasite (Rudy) was killed off about 5 years ago and his replacement (Alexandra) is very easily defeated (a layer of clothing can stop her in her tracks).
With kryptonite powering him, Metallo has easily pounded Superman into the ground before. Without kryptonite, Metallo can still hold his own, usually with the help of some sort of gimmick (like his Cerberus/indestructible body, or the geo-magnet). Of course, Metallo's robot body has been taken from him recently, and he too is not really much of a threat anymore.
The Atomic Skull had strength on par with Superman, and he originally had invulnerability similar to Superman's when he was first introduced, but that power seems to have been retconned (and now it doesn't make sense that he can take a punch from Superman, but the force of a bullet's impact will take him out :confused: ). Unfortunately, the Skull was killed off a few months ago.
There are a number of other members of Superman's own rogues gallery who have a good chance of defeating Superman in a fight, but most of them have been forgotten by the current writers. And it seems that the few more well-known Superman villains who haven't been forgotten and once had a strong chance of beating him (listed above) have been either watered down, killed off, or had their powers taken away.
Of course, there are always the characters who aren't necessary limited to Metropolis who have the potential to single-handedly defeat Superman, such as Dr. Fate, Captain Marvel, the Spectre, Zoom, the Flash, Mordru, and many others.
oohhh...ok. Thank you!
ssj wolverine
03-13-2006, 01:07 PM
not to mention Batman with is krytonite ring, and his prep-time.
I don't think Bats should be included on this list because using Kryptonite to defeat Superman doesn't take much ability or strength. Bats' butler Alfred can get kryptonite and defeat Supes. I have more respect for someone if they can defeat Superman without the use of Kryptonite. Like Doomsday, Darkseid, Lobo, Fate, etc.
dr collossus
03-13-2006, 02:46 PM
Of course, there are always the characters who aren't necessary limited to Metropolis who have the potential to single-handedly defeat Superman, such as Dr. Fate, Captain Marvel, the Spectre, Zoom, the Flash, Mordru, and many others.
The Flash could beat supes?
Lord Melo
03-13-2006, 04:07 PM
The Flash could beat supes?
That's a serious maybe depending on which Flash and who gets the first surprise move in. If you're looking a good idea of what Flash(-es) might try doing to Supes, pick up the new Crisis series where all the Flashes attack Superboy Prime, who is apparently on the mad high power level of Superman Prime.
SuperDaniel
03-13-2006, 04:54 PM
Who can beat Superman? Nobody. Who can beat hope, true and justice? Nobody. He will always come back.
The Question
03-13-2006, 05:14 PM
The Flash could beat supes?
When Flash is running at top speeds, he can pull of a little trick called the infinite mass punch, which basically is a punch that packs enough force to send Superman into orbit.
Spike_x1
03-13-2006, 05:39 PM
I don't think Bats should be included on this list because using Kryptonite to defeat Superman doesn't take much ability or strength. Bats' butler Alfred can get kryptonite and defeat Supes. I have more respect for someone if they can defeat Superman without the use of Kryptonite. Like Doomsday, Darkseid, Lobo, Fate, etc.Don't let "Smallville" fool you. When exposed to kryptonite, Superman doesn't automatically just keel over and become helpless. He still has more than enough strength get up and fly away.
From Superman's perspective, think of a couple minutes worth of kryptonite radiation poisoning as a really painful and dizzying case of the flu. You feel like "oh man, please, someone shoot me rather than let me live through this agony!" Even though you feel that way, you can still easily get up and walk away, even if it pains you to do so.
That's why you need someone like Metallo to keep Superman down for the count in concurrence with the kryptonite.
KaptainKrypton
03-13-2006, 08:56 PM
I also think Preus could hold his own against Supes, as could Gog or Magog (whichever). Whad'ya think, Spike?:up: or:down
krpton2
03-13-2006, 08:58 PM
Superman is immortal meaning he can't die.
Metropolis_Man
03-13-2006, 09:39 PM
I also think Preus could hold his own against Supes, as could Gog or Magog (whichever). Whad'ya think, Spike?:up: or:down
I think Gog could hold his own with Superman. They handeled him really well in Kingdom Come and I'd like to see him used more often.
krpton2
03-13-2006, 11:41 PM
Supermanprime will own all.
The Leaguer
03-14-2006, 12:11 AM
Preus was kicking his ass until his super-secret vulnerability was revealed: his chest shield. How lame.
KaptainKrypton
03-14-2006, 12:32 AM
Preus was kicking his ass until his super-secret vulnerability was revealed: his chest shield. How lame.
I know. Otherwise I would've really loved that character. It's like they made this big, beautiful banana split with the finest ice creams and bananas. And then in place of a cherry, they inserted poop.
Spike_x1
03-14-2006, 06:59 AM
I also think Preus could hold his own against Supes, as could Gog or Magog (whichever). Whad'ya think, Spike?:up: or:downI would agree that they easily have the potential to beat Superman .
The Question
03-14-2006, 09:36 AM
Superman is immortal meaning he can't die.
He's tiugh, but he's hardly immortal. Most of his rogues, like Parasite and Bizarro, could kill him.
Jacobhiggins
03-15-2006, 01:53 AM
Don't let "Smallville" fool you. When exposed to kryptonite, Superman doesn't automatically just keel over and become helpless. He still has more than enough strength get up and fly away.
From Superman's perspective, think of a couple minutes worth of kryptonite radiation poisoning as a really painful and dizzying case of the flu. You feel like "oh man, please, someone shoot me rather than let me live through this agony!" Even though you feel that way, you can still easily get up and walk away, even if it pains you to do so.
That's why you need someone like Metallo to keep Superman down for the count in concurrence with the kryptonite.
Superman can kill Batman with one punch to the noggin. Batman is one of the coolest Superhero's out there, but Superman is in a whole different realm of power!
SSJ4_Mikael
03-15-2006, 10:26 AM
I hope you're aware of there is many different states of Superman.
1) Superman Prime
2) Pre-Crisis Superman
3) Post-Crisis Superman
Post-Crisis Superman is pretty much the weakest, he strugle's to lift a crashing plane and he move's in the speed of sound.
Pre-Crisis Superman; can move planet's and is so fast that he can go back into time.
Superman Prime; The big ownage, and possible the strongest force in universe. You could compare him to God, since he have the power to re-create planet's, give life and... There is not really a stated limit to his power.
So he could even be infinity. And yeah almost forgot, kryptonite don't affect him.
Spike_x1
03-15-2006, 05:45 PM
Superman can kill Batman with one punch to the noggin. Batman is one of the coolest Superhero's out there, but Superman is in a whole different realm of power!Why'd you bother quoting me for that? Why not quote the person who actually claimed Batman can beat Superman?
Spike_x1
03-15-2006, 05:47 PM
I hope you're aware of there is many different states of Superman.
1) Superman Prime
2) Pre-Crisis Superman
3) Post-Crisis Superman
Post-Crisis Superman is pretty much the weakest, he strugle's to lift a crashing plane and he move's in the speed of sound.
Pre-Crisis Superman; can move planet's and is so fast that he can go back into time.
Superman Prime; The big ownage, and possible the strongest force in universe. You could compare him to God, since he have the power to re-create planet's, give life and... There is not really a stated limit to his power.
So he could even be infinity. And yeah almost forgot, kryptonite don't affect him.I think most of us did, in fact, know that. And also; pre-crisis Superman has had many differing levels of power. He couldn't always push around planets with ease and go so fast as to travel through time. And even after he was shown to have those powers, they were slowly dwindled down in the mid to late 70's to a less ridiculous level, though still very powerful.
And post-crisis Superman can travel a helluva lot faster than the speed of sound, and he easily landed a very massive space plane in MOS without much sign of effort (along with lifting an entire luxury cruiser without breaking a sweat).
The Leaguer
03-15-2006, 08:06 PM
Post-Crisis Superman is pretty much the weakest, he strugle's to lift a crashing plane and he move's in the speed of sound.
Sounds like you got confused between Post-Crisis Superman and the cartoon Superman.
krpton2
03-15-2006, 09:17 PM
Post-crisis superman is the weakest from the ones he mentioned, but he didn't struggle to lift a plane.
bud7486
03-15-2006, 11:36 PM
DC watered down Superman to make his comics more appealing. But when it comes right down to it, if Superman doesnt hold anything back he can destroy anybody he faces. It might be a very tough fight but ultimately Superman will always come out on top, DC will make sure of that. I mean after all he IS Superman!:supes:
MajinShenron
03-16-2006, 12:17 PM
Hulk could beat Superman with a hand tied behind his back.
krpton2
03-16-2006, 12:48 PM
Well he did beat him in a magazine but he wasn't out for the count.
PWN3R
03-16-2006, 12:52 PM
What would happen if Superman had this 'prep time'?!
The world would cease to exist! :eek:
krpton2
03-16-2006, 12:54 PM
That's one of the reasons that i hate the bats because of his prep-time. Well anyway, supes is immortal
Lord Melo
03-16-2006, 02:46 PM
Hulk could beat Superman with a hand tied behind his back.
Nope, already officially established. Go pick up DC v Marvel.
The Leaguer
03-16-2006, 03:26 PM
Nope, already officially established. Go pick up DC v Marvel.
That's not official. It was voted on by fans.
Lord Melo
03-16-2006, 03:29 PM
Eh... well I'm not sure what could be MORE official, but I suppose it could be looked at entirely the other way.
Fair enough.
FrankCastle6
03-16-2006, 04:58 PM
What would happen if Superman had this 'prep time'?!
The world would cease to exist! :eek:
well dood duh! i mean...everyone with preptime is at least....1,000,345,252 times stronger....EVERYONE knows that!
FrankCastle6
03-16-2006, 04:59 PM
Eh... well I'm not sure what could be MORE official, but I suppose it could be looked at entirely the other way.
Fair enough.
uhmm alot of things could be more official...like let's say if they actually put out a book on it and killed one of the characters (which of course they won't do) I mean...just cause fans vote on it doesn't mean it is official
Spike_x1
03-16-2006, 06:14 PM
DC watered down Superman to make his comics more appealing. But when it comes right down to it, if Superman doesnt hold anything back he can destroy anybody he faces. It might be a very tough fight but ultimately Superman will always come out on top, DC will make sure of that. I mean after all he IS Superman!:supes:That's one of the most nonsensical statements I've ever read that was intended to be serious.
Of course, maybe you're like Leaguer and you're just playing mindgames with me.
fangrl06
03-16-2006, 06:54 PM
Wonder Woman
Superman, according to you, is utterly invinceable and he could stop anyone...
..but...wouldn't that be the most boring story in the world.
"Superman Distroys all his enemys and just happens to kills Batman and most, if not all, of the Justice Leage all in 15 minutes and has enough time to give Lois six orgasms and have her make him a sandwhich, which he promply throws it at her at the speed of sound, leaving a clean sandwhich shaped hole in her head."
ChrisBaleBatman
03-16-2006, 09:40 PM
The Goddamn Batman.
By the ay.....that's the funniest thing anyone has ever typed in the history of mankind.
Bah......gives Lois SIX orgasms.....lol, you should be a comedian.
KaptainKrypton
03-16-2006, 11:03 PM
Superman, according to you, is utterly invinceable and he could stop anyone...
..but...wouldn't that be the most boring story in the world.
"Superman Distroys all his enemys and just happens to kills Batman and most, if not all, of the Justice Leage all in 15 minutes and has enough time to give Lois six orgasms and have her make him a sandwhich, which he promply throws it at her at the speed of sound, leaving a clean sandwhich shaped hole in his head."
15 minutes? Man, those are Chuck Norris kind of numbers.
Andy C.
03-17-2006, 02:38 AM
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Hal Jordan. Didn't he (as Parallax) KO Superman at one point?
Lord Melo
03-17-2006, 09:50 AM
Hawkman KOd him too with that damn glove of his...
krpton2
03-17-2006, 01:06 PM
hawkman beat post-crsis.
The Leaguer
03-17-2006, 01:11 PM
I'm pretty sure they revealed in the very next issue that both Superman and Batman were playing possum. Hawkman didn't really beat him.
krpton2
03-17-2006, 01:14 PM
He just got a hit, that's about it. Nothing really happened.
Class100strngth
03-17-2006, 04:40 PM
When Flash is running at top speeds, he can pull of a little trick called the infinite mass punch, which basically is a punch that packs enough force to send Superman into orbit.
Thats if superman is stuyid enough to remain on the ground during the fight.
FrankCastle6
03-17-2006, 11:06 PM
Superman, according to you, is utterly invinceable and he could stop anyone...
..but...wouldn't that be the most boring story in the world.
"Superman Distroys all his enemys and just happens to kills Batman and most, if not all, of the Justice Leage all in 15 minutes and has enough time to give Lois six orgasms and have her make him a sandwhich, which he promply throws it at her at the speed of sound, leaving a clean sandwhich shaped hole in his head."
haha..learn to spell man! LOL
krpton2
03-17-2006, 11:07 PM
The flash can pose supes a problem no doubt, but he will still loose.
The Leaguer
03-17-2006, 11:56 PM
He just got a hit, that's about it. Nothing really happened.
What?
elvislennon2005
04-05-2006, 03:21 PM
Doomsday has killed Superman before, but he's been watered down significantly in recent years.
Darkseid too, was stronger than Superman and his Omega Beams are capable of wiping Superman from existance. But like Doomsday, Darkseid has been watered down quite a bit too.
In a straight fight, the Parasite would beat Superman every time. Of course, the true Parasite (Rudy) was killed off about 5 years ago and his replacement (Alexandra) is very easily defeated (a layer of clothing can stop her in her tracks).
With kryptonite powering him, Metallo has easily pounded Superman into the ground before. Without kryptonite, Metallo can still hold his own, usually with the help of some sort of gimmick (like his Cerberus/indestructible body, or the geo-magnet). Of course, Metallo's robot body has been taken from him recently, and he too is not really much of a threat anymore.
The Atomic Skull had strength on par with Superman, and he originally had invulnerability similar to Superman's when he was first introduced, but that power seems to have been retconned (and now it doesn't make sense that he can take a punch from Superman, but the force of a bullet's impact will take him out :confused: ). Unfortunately, the Skull was killed off a few months ago.
There are a number of other members of Superman's own rogues gallery who have a good chance of defeating Superman in a fight, but most of them have been forgotten by the current writers. And it seems that the few more well-known Superman villains who haven't been forgotten and once had a strong chance of beating him (listed above) have been either watered down, killed off, or had their powers taken away.
Of course, there are always the characters who aren't necessary limited to Metropolis who have the potential to single-handedly defeat Superman, such as Dr. Fate, Captain Marvel, the Spectre, Zoom, the Flash, Mordru, and many others.
Superman did not died when he fought Doomsday. He power drained and he was in a coma like state so that his powers can be up again. The last time he truely died was back in the early 80s. Lex killed him but was brought back to life by Supergirl and Krypto. Superman died of a total of 7 times but he came back to life each time.
Batman could beat him, with cunning, surprise, thoughtful planning of th battleground and awereness of the surroundings, and calculation of Superman's Modius Operenda'. With those things in mind, virtually anyone could beat Superman. It isn't always brawn that wins.
The Question
04-05-2006, 08:55 PM
Superman did not died when he fought Doomsday. He power drained and he was in a coma like state so that his powers can be up again. The last time he truely died was back in the early 80s. Lex killed him but was brought back to life by Supergirl and Krypto. Superman died of a total of 7 times but he came back to life each time.
No, Superman actually died when he fought Doomsday. The Eradicator brought him back to life with Kryptonian technology.
blksuperman2
04-07-2006, 10:44 AM
Preus was kicking his ass until his super-secret vulnerability was revealed: his chest shield. How lame.
I thought he was a cool Supes villian too. Kinda like an anti-supes instead of Bizarro who is just a joke. I loved how he easily defeated Martian Manhunter. I've never really liked MM. I was hoping Superboy Prime was gonna lay the smack down on MM. But oh well
PhotoJones
04-08-2006, 01:07 PM
so like...who can beat superman??? i am not to into his comics....but who could do it? isn't he like...invincible
doomsday
The Question
04-08-2006, 06:52 PM
I thought he was a cool Supes villian too. Kinda like an anti-supes instead of Bizarro who is just a joke. I loved how he easily defeated Martian Manhunter. I've never really liked MM. I was hoping Superboy Prime was gonna lay the smack down on MM. But oh well
What's wrong with J'onn?
blksuperman2
04-10-2006, 09:28 AM
What's wrong with J'onn?
Nothing except he's a rip off of Superman, and his weakness is fire. That's the dumbest weakness D.C. could have come up with. Many other characters that had dumb weaknesses like, Wonder Woman being tied up and Storm being claustrophobic have been pretty much forgotten or done away with.
Don't get me wrong he's a powerhouse with varying abilities but he is just under utilized and right now I just don't like him.
The Question
04-10-2006, 09:55 AM
He's not a rip off of Superman. They have similar stories, but they're hardly the same. Superman is the orphan. He never knew his people. J'onn is the refugee. He knew his people, and he watched them all die around him. As for fire, it's not that dumb a weakness. And it actually makes sense. Him being a shapeshifter, his physical form is fluid. Intense heat makes it hard to retain a cohesive form, and woyuld eventually kill him.
blksuperman2
04-10-2006, 03:32 PM
He's not a rip off of Superman. They have similar stories, but they're hardly the same. Superman is the orphan. He never knew his people. J'onn is the refugee. He knew his people, and he watched them all die around him. As for fire, it's not that dumb a weakness. And it actually makes sense. Him being a shapeshifter, his physical form is fluid. Intense heat makes it hard to retain a cohesive form, and woyuld eventually kill him.
You're right they aren't exactly the same, but how many Super strong, super fast, flying last of your kind alien beings are there?
The Question
04-10-2006, 04:38 PM
Martian Manhunter and Superman, last time I checked. But really, the similarities end there.
Sundancer
04-10-2006, 05:25 PM
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Hal Jordan. Didn't he (as Parallax) KO Superman at one point?
Yes, when Hal was trying to get his ring back from Kyle.
What's Superman Prime??? I dont read Supes comics regularly.
Muhammad Ali has beaten him, but they were fighting under a red sun.:rolleyes:
house of f
04-12-2006, 03:55 PM
him self
or an evil elesworld him any way
Ender Durden
04-27-2006, 06:05 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/jasonbenito/806022134o.jpg
The Question
04-27-2006, 11:26 AM
him self
or an evil elesworld him any way
Plus:
Green Lantern
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Bizarro
Zod
Metallo
Parasite
Amazo
Darkseid
The Spectre
Dr. Fate
Alan Scott
Captain Marvel
The Star Conquerer
Despero
Captain Atom
Sinestro
Dr. Polaris
Doomsday
And so on and so forth.
MajinShenron
04-29-2006, 06:08 PM
Hulk could beat Superman *cough*.
Metropolis_Man
04-29-2006, 07:01 PM
Doomsday has killed Superman before, but he's been watered down significantly in recent years.
Darkseid too, was stronger than Superman and his Omega Beams are capable of wiping Superman from existance. But like Doomsday, Darkseid has been watered down quite a bit too.
In a straight fight, the Parasite would beat Superman every time. Of course, the true Parasite (Rudy) was killed off about 5 years ago and his replacement (Alexandra) is very easily defeated (a layer of clothing can stop her in her tracks).
With kryptonite powering him, Metallo has easily pounded Superman into the ground before. Without kryptonite, Metallo can still hold his own, usually with the help of some sort of gimmick (like his Cerberus/indestructible body, or the geo-magnet). Of course, Metallo's robot body has been taken from him recently, and he too is not really much of a threat anymore.
The Atomic Skull had strength on par with Superman, and he originally had invulnerability similar to Superman's when he was first introduced, but that power seems to have been retconned (and now it doesn't make sense that he can take a punch from Superman, but the force of a bullet's impact will take him out :confused: ). Unfortunately, the Skull was killed off a few months ago.
There are a number of other members of Superman's own rogues gallery who have a good chance of defeating Superman in a fight, but most of them have been forgotten by the current writers. And it seems that the few more well-known Superman villains who haven't been forgotten and once had a strong chance of beating him (listed above) have been either watered down, killed off, or had their powers taken away.
Of course, there are always the characters who aren't necessary limited to Metropolis who have the potential to single-handedly defeat Superman, such as Dr. Fate, Captain Marvel, the Spectre, Zoom, the Flash, Mordru, and many others.
Good post! I am liking Parastie more and more lately and wish they didn't kill him off. Do you think they'll bring him back? I like the parasite version that you have as your avatar.
Spike_x1
04-30-2006, 09:02 AM
Good post! I am liking Parastie more and more lately and wish they didn't kill him off. Do you think they'll bring him back? I like the parasite version that you have as your avatar.There is a possibility that he might come back in Superman/Batman #28 that comes out in a few months.
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/July06/Superman/SupermanBatmanCv28.jpg
The synopsis of that issue has Superman and Batman fighting Titano and the Parasite. Of course, it didn't specify which Parasite it was (Alexandra or Rudy), but the guy on the cover with green skin and the orange collar looks an awful lot like Rudy's first form that he had when he originally (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6159/firestorm058079fu5tq6ka.jpg) became the Parasite.
It's not that hard to write a resurrection for him, considering that during the 90's, Rudy demonstrated that he can regenerate from almost anything if he's given enough energy to power said resurrection. If it is Rudy on the cover, in my mind, it's not a matter of how he came back from the dead; it's just a matter of why would he revert back to his significantly less powerful body of Parasite 1.0 instead of Parasite 2.5 (the version in my avatar)?
The Question
04-30-2006, 10:20 AM
Maybe, because he was so very injured, his recovering body is considerably less powerful than he normally is, but he is slowly regaining strength.
Spike_x1
04-30-2006, 10:22 AM
I can live with that explanation. As long as it's not permanent.
BTW, anyone have any clue as to who the flaming skull guy is on that cover? I'd guess that it'd be the Atomic Skull, but Joe's face (or lack thereof) has never really resembled that before (flaming hair?).
The Question
04-30-2006, 10:59 AM
Maybe the colorist just screwed up.
TheOriginalman
05-08-2006, 05:35 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/jasonbenito/806022134o.jpgThe greatest of all time (Muhammad Ali) whupped Superman's behind. Superman was under a red sun at the time, so he had to rely on boxing ability, which pales in comparison to the greatest.
FrankCastle6
05-08-2006, 05:37 PM
The greatest of all time (Muhammad Ali) whupped Superman's behind. Superman was under a red sun at the time, so he had to rely on boxing ability, which pales in comparison to the greatest.
....:confused: uhmm...ok?
TheOriginalman
05-09-2006, 02:06 PM
so like...who can beat superman??? i am not to into his comics....but who could do it? isn't he like...invincibleWhat about Mongul? He gave Superman a good fight.
saint sinner x
05-11-2006, 02:51 PM
Superman gets his ass kicked on so many occasions is not even funny now let's start with the DCU characters that can defeat superman.
1)Green lantern
2)Wonder Woman
3)Martian Manhunter
4)The Flash
5)Darkseid
6)Doomsday
7)Metallo
8)Yellow lantern
9)Metamorpho
10)Amazo
11)clayface II
12)Captain Atom
Now from the Marvel Universe that can kicked superman's ass
1)Proffesor X
2)Magneto
3)Ultimate Thor
4)Hulk
5)Thor
6)Silver Surfer
7)Thanos
8)Morlun
9)apocalypse
10)Dr.Strange
11)Galactus
12)rouge
13)Captain Universe
14)Pheonix
15)Quicksilver
16)Venom
17)Blackheart
18)Omega Red
19)Mephisto
20)Mimic
21)Arclight
Now for the characters that are not from DCU or Marverl Universe that can easily beat superman are:
1)Spawn
2)WitchBlade
3)Dracula
4)Goku
5)Dante from devil may cry
6)Alucard
7)naruto
8)Bleech
And a couple of thousand characters that can easily defeat superman, Superman is not a god he's not even a demi-god for that matter. He's just a super being. A god i would consider to be Galactus and a demi-god i would consider to be silver surfer hell even green lantern is consider a demi-god but not superman. I was going to mention batman but then again we all seen batman beat the crap out of superman so many times with and without the use of kryptonite and either if it was in continueity or not.
King of Kings
05-11-2006, 03:15 PM
you know at what time or another superman has wopped most of them as well, even wooped thor, hulk and juggernaught in crossovers. its really whoever got lucky in the fight. and whehn the bad guys fight superman they go all out, superman holds back because he doesnt kill. who is to say who could stop him if he went toally beserk.
The Question
05-11-2006, 04:53 PM
11)clayface II
Clayface couldn't beat Superman. Hell, Clayface can't even beat Batman. Clayface may be a shapeshifter, but he's nowhere near strong enough or tough enough to stand a chance against Superman.
15)Quicksilver
How can Quicksilver beat Superman? He's fast, yeah, but Superman's probably just as fast. And Quicksilver doesn;t have any super strength or anything.
16)Venom
No way Venom could beat Superman. He's nowhere near SUperman's strength class. Plus, he's weak against heat. One blast of heat vision and he's down.
18)Omega Red
No way Omega Red's beating Superman. Superman's way stronger and way faster.
3)Dracula
6)Alucard
Isn't that kind of redundant?
7)naruto
There is no ****ing way that Naruto beats Superman.
And a couple of thousand characters that can easily defeat superman, Superman is not a god he's not even a demi-god for that matter. He's just a super being. A god i would consider to be Galactus and a demi-god i would consider to be silver surfer hell even green lantern is consider a demi-god but not superman. I was going to mention batman but then again we all seen batman beat the crap out of superman so many times with and without the use of kryptonite and either if it was in continueity or not.
We haven't seen Batman beat the crap out of Superman "so many times." In fact, we've never seen him beat the crap out of him. He's fought him twice in continuity and one out of continuity. In the out of continuity one, Superman was still recovering from massive injury, and Batman had the aid of Green Arow and Robin and was using billions of dollars worth of tech and decades worth of preperation.
The two in continuity times were in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel and in Hush. In Hush, Batman was fighting a Superman who was fighting off mind control and thus nowhere near his peak ability, and Batman didn't so much beat him as run away from him and not die until he could snap Superman out of it. The other time, Bruce got his ass kicked all over Gotham.
saint sinner x
05-11-2006, 04:54 PM
First of all that wasn't in continuity in terms of the superman whopping all of they're assess. Secondly silver surfer would destroy superman even if superman would not hold back.
saint sinner x
05-11-2006, 05:04 PM
The question i don't have time to comment on your post so i'm just going to make it easier for you to understand my post buddy. Venom could defeat superman all superman has to do is open his mouth and he's out as well as clayface II can easily do the same thing to superman. Superman is no way in hell as fast as quicksilver, quiksilver can create cyclones and dodge gunfire and he can travel back and forth through time plus he can accelerate his atoms so he can multiply himself you obviously do not read quicksilver comics so back off if you don't know what your talking about. Here's his abilities and then you can compare him to superman http://www.marvel.com/universe/Quicksilver. As for the others that you mentioned i'll get on you on that for later because i have to get going.
The Question
05-11-2006, 05:04 PM
First of all that wasn't in continuity in terms of the superman whopping all of they're assess. Secondly silver surfer would destroy superman even if superman would not hold back.
Well, of course the Surfer would beat Superman. No contest. But there's no way in hell that Quicksilver beats him.
The question i don't have time to comment on your post so i'm just going to make it easier for you to understand my post buddy. Venom could defeat superman all superman has to do is open his mouth and he's out as well as clayface II can easily do the same thing to superman.
What the hell does that mean. How would Superman opening his mouth ensure his doom?
Superman is no way in hell as fast as quicksilver, quiksilver can create cyclones and dodge gunfire
So can Superman. In fact, he's known for doing such things.
and he can travel back and forth through time
Has nothing to do with his actually running speed, though.
plus he can accelerate his atoms so he can multiply himself
No, he doesn't. Future versions of himself travel a few seconds back in time so it apears that he's copying himself.
you obviously do not read quicksilver comics so back off if you don't know what your talking about.
I do know what I'm talking about. Superman is as fast as Quicksilver, if not faster.
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