5.22 - Vessel (Season Finale Spoilers)

[avidreader]

Title from Lenny at Sweet.

Casting calls for a

Nurse
And a Newsreporter.

[Kane]

Hmmm why isnt there a casting call for ZOD?

[avidreader]

They would probably already have someone in mind, so they dont need to send out a casting call.

I just read an interesting spec about Zod taking over Lex's body, which could be what the "super-powered Lex" is all about.

I'm not sure I like that idea. I think I prefer Brainiac to be blended with Lex.

[Kane]

I think its a bit early in the game for Lex to fuse with Brainiac and learn all his secrets but whatever.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Hmmm why isnt there a casting call for ZOD?

Probably because they want to keep it a Surprise / Secret ? Or maybe he shows up when Clark gets trapped in the Phantom Zone ? aka NOT this Episode but before it

[Lara]

I've never checked out sweet. Do you have a link please?

[Kane]

Biggest surprise. Brandon Routh IS Zod.

BR: "Kneel before Zod.........please..........Im begging you...."

[Kal-El 8]

Biggest surprise. Brandon Routh IS Zod.

BR: "Kneel before Zod.........please..........Im begging you...."

*sigh*:o

[avidreader]

I've never checked out sweet. Do you have a link please?

If you dont like the Clark and Lana pairing then you'll realllllly hate this site. :D

http://lanaclark.suddenlaunch2.com/index.cgi

[Lara]

If you dont like the Clark and Lana pairing then you'll realllllly hate this site. :D

http://lanaclark.suddenlaunch2.com/index.cgi
Thanks I'm not much into shipping in general but I am into news and I keep seeing it mentioned that it's a good site for it :) off to check now.

[smsvmos]

It would be a nice surprise if ZOD was played by Dean Cain cause I know Brandon will never do it

[Kane]

Have u seen Dean recently?

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/4001/Events/4001/DeanCain_McCar_6948628_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Cain,%20Dean

Oh boy...what was he thinking....

Maybe he was auditioning for Aquaman.

[GothicPowerMix1]

It would be a nice surprise if ZOD was played by Dean Cain

I actually would not be surprised if it turned out to be Dean Cain. Since he said he would Guest Star & the Writers etc really want Dean Cain to Guest Star & heck after him himself playing Superman that would be quite a change going from Superman to his old Clark Kents Characters Enemy :up:

[Kane]

Dean Cain would be a great choice. He looks like the postcrisis version of Zod.

I dont think the majority liked him as Superman anyways, he was really lame.

[mellyM]

It would be a nice surprise if ZOD was played by Dean Cain cause I know Brandon will never do it
Dean Cain doesn;t look very evil or imposing to me...

[Kane]

Well neither do Marsters and Rosenbaum but I think its in the delivery/lines.

[avidreader]

Dean Cain doesn;t look very evil or imposing to me...

Yeah, I think he would make a better Martian Manhunter.

[Brainiac 8]

Dean Cain would be a great choice. He looks like the postcrisis version of Zod.

I dont think the majority liked him as Superman anyways, he was really lame.

I liked him as Supes.:)

[Kal-El 8]

If you dont like the Clark and Lana pairing then you'll realllllly hate this site. :D

http://lanaclark.suddenlaunch2.com/index.cgi

OH GOD NOOOOOOOOOO, I thought this site was six feet under. It's back DAMNIT :down :down :mad:

[Kal-El 8]

Dean Cain would be a great choice. He looks like the postcrisis version of Zod.

I dont think the majority liked him as Superman anyways, he was really lame.


I liked Dean as Clark Kent on Lois & Clark, He was fantastic as Clark Kent. But as SUPERMAN, that's another story .

I'll say that When he was SUPERMAN with Lois in the scene Dean was good. But in General. I'll leave it at that.

[AgentPat]

Have u seen Dean recently?

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/4001/Events/4001/DeanCain_McCar_6948628_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Cain,%20Dean

Oh boy...what was he thinking....

Maybe he was auditioning for Aquaman.Wasn't that when he played Scott Peterson? He kind of looks like him there, especially with the spiky blonde hair.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I think they probably have already chosen Zod and that's why we haven't heard spoilers regarding that casting. The probably went to a relatively known actor or to someone from the Superman movie mythology such as Cain or Hackman.
The title vessel indicates that someone will probably take over someone else's body. Could also be the return of Lion-El...lol

[triplet]

Wasn't that when he played Scott Peterson? He kind of looks like him there, especially with the spiky blonde hair.

Yeah, that's what he looked like when he played Scott Peterson....

I think he'd be a good one for Zod, he played a heavy in one thing I saw him in (I think it was a Law and Order episode) and he did a good job I thought but I just looked at his IMDB listing... he's working on a film that's shooting right now, so he may not be available.

I'm still pulling for Adrian Paul to be Zod.

[Red X]

They would probably already have someone in mind, so they dont need to send out a casting call.

I just read an interesting spec about Zod taking over Lex's body, which could be what the "super-powered Lex" is all about.

I'm not sure I like that idea. I think I prefer Brainiac to be blended with Lex.

I can see that happening

[Serene]

I'm still pulling for Adrian Paul to be Zod.

Adrian was just at a HL con this past weekend in England. I poured over the con reports hoping that maybe he might have mentioned a future SV appearance.. but I got nuttin'. :(

[AgentPat]

Adrian was just at a HL con this past weekend in England. I poured over the con reports hoping that maybe he might have mentioned a future SV appearance.. but I got nuttin'.Well that sux. I wonder if they even asked him? I know he was told about the fan interest, but that doesn't mean TPTB were interested.

:(

[boydston_14]

That would be cool to have him as Zod, though. He really seems like he could pull it off.

[LL2K2]

Dean Cain doesn;t look very evil or imposing to me...

He did portray one of the most notorious murderers in recent history. If an announcement came that he was cast as Zod, I won't be terribly upset.

[Kal-El 8]

I'll bet Lionel is the Vessel .

[DarthSkywalker]

I still think Lex is going to merge with Braniac somehow. They will break Zod out.

[avidreader]

I still think Lex is going to merge with Braniac somehow. They will break Zod out.

If that happens, then James Marsters could very well be playing Zod.

[Kal-El 8]

If that happens, then James Marsters could very well be playing Zod.

That would be something . :eek:

[GothicPowerMix1]

If that happens, then James Marsters could very well be playing Zod.

Um wouldnt Lex become Braniac & not Zod ? I dont see how Braniac becoming Lex makes Braniac Zod. Braniac is in Lex at the time :p

& personally I hate this idea. But I guess maybe Masters have to do othe Shows etc so they need an excuse with him not being there so for the time being he becomes Lex & Lex becomes Braniac. With Lex being Zods right hand man since hes like rich & all. Maybe we will finally get a kick ass Lex VS Clark Show Down

[avidreader]

You'll note I said James Marsters will be Zod. There was a rumour floating around a while back that Brainiac was created in the image of Zod.

This way if Brainiac blends with Lex, then we no longer need the Brainiac character and James Marsters is free to play the character of Zod.

Does that make sense?

[Kaboom]

You'll note I said James Marsters will be Zod. There was a rumour floating around a while back that Brainiac was created in the image of Zod.

This way if Brainiac blends with Lex, then we no longer need the Brainiac character and James Marsters is free to play the character of Zod.

Does that make sense?

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[GothicPowerMix1]

You'll note I said James Marsters will be Zod. There was a rumour floating around a while back that Brainiac was created in the image of Zod.

This way if Brainiac blends with Lex, then we no longer need the Brainiac character and James Marsters is free to play the character of Zod.

Does that make sense?

Then Lex would know everything about Clark & I think that is too soon & once again Lex will get a memory erase & damn how many times have that dude got a Memory Erase these last 5 years ? I can deal with the fact that Lex blending with & becoming Braniac for a while due to the fact Masters might be needed else where & this will be their excuse. But Id prefer them getting another actor for Zod.

[DarthSkywalker]

I said that whole "Braniac is created in Zod's image" awhile ago, and people acted like I was nuts. Personally i love the idea. Marsters should of been Zod in the first place. If Zod comes out looking huge next to Clark, it takes away from his mystic. The only Zod that has ever really worked, was in first two Superman films.

As to Lex/Brainac there is a long standing history of it. The combination of Braniac and Lex has always been one of, if not the toughest villian Superman has ever had to deal with. I like the idea that Brainiac could make Lex think he was losing it again. Lex looking in the mirror and seeing Brainiac. Hearing voices.

[avidreader]

i like your ideas and want to subscribe to your newsletter.

Sure, I'll set up a new thread. :)

As to Lex knowing about Clark if he is blended with Brainiac, well maybe when he's Brainiac Lex doesnt know what's going on.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Sure, I'll set up a new thread. :)

As to Lex knowing about Clark if he is blended with Brainiac, well maybe when he's Brainiac Lex doesnt know what's going on.

Surely Braniac would not when he feels like blends with Lex. If that were to happen some deal would probably be made & Lex lets him in. I think things would be much easier for Braniac to get in if Lex just LETTED him in & besides Lex WILLINGLY willing to do something like that shows how far hes willing to go :up: If Lex knew he was Alien Super Powered with Knowledge Im sure the first thing Lex would do is go after Clark

[AgentPat]

I'll bet Lionel is the Vessel.That's what I'm thinking - oracle *and* vessel.

If that happens, then James Marsters could very well be playing Zod.As much as I think Marsters would make an awesome Zod, I hope they don't take that route. I prefer keeping the villains separate. It also makes sense from a syndication POV (which they DO think about.) The same actor playing two *major* villains spanning more than one season can get very confusing for folks who miss episodes. That said, if Marsters ends up as Zod, I hope he stays that way. IOW, they shouldn't bring Brainiac back unless he's possessing Lex, or something along those lines. You don't want audiences going into an episode and wondering which character Marsters is at any given time. It would be really confusing that way.

[avidreader]

That's what I'm thinking - oracle *and* vessel.

As much as I think Marsters would make an awesome Zod, I hope they don't take that route. I prefer keeping the villains separate. It also makes sense from a syndication POV (which they DO think about.) The same actor playing two *major* villains spanning more than one season can get very confusing for folks who miss episodes. That said, if Marsters ends up as Zod, I hope he stays that way. IOW, they shouldn't bring Brainiac back unless he's possessing Lex, or something along those lines. You don't want audiences going into an episode and wondering which character Marsters is at any given time. It would be really confusing that way.

Agree. :up:

[Lara]

Unless Marsters is a big liar he's wrapped up Smallville and is back in LA for pilot season. He has to stay in LA for family commitments supposedly.

[Red X]

Don't shot me down for thinking out loud here, but its possible that the episodes title is in referance to the ship.

[triplet]

Oooh... interesting.

It could be, Red X.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Title from Lenny at Sweet.

Casting calls for a

Nurse
And a Newsreporter. I just hope that Lana will finally find out in the show.

[mellyM]

I just hope that Lana will finally find out in the show.
It;d be nice if she did too

[Ultimate_Superman]

It;d be nice if she did tooISon of a gun:p But in all I hope she does it would be a nice way to kick off season 6 and letting us see how she handles things.

[avidreader]

Oh I agree with Lana knowing.

IT IS TIME.

RedX I'm with you, when I heard the title Vessel, I immediately thought of a spaceship, I didnt even entertain the notion of Vessel being a Someone.

[Serene]

Don't shot me down for thinking out loud here, but its possible that the episodes title is in referance to the ship.

It seems likely that it refers to more than one thing.. as SV titles are known to do. :)

[GothicPowerMix1]

Don't shot me down for thinking out loud here, but its possible that the episodes title is in referance to the ship.

Maybe they open it & they as in Lana & Lex & find another baby Kryptonian (gasps) but this ones Evil !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GothicPowerMix1]

I just hope that Lana will finally find out in the show.

& then she will forget again just like every other time

[triplet]

Hey, I was cruising through some threads over on HNR and ran across this:

http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=47

Sounds exciting with the FX explosions and a helicopter...

:up:

[The Sage]

They would probably already have someone in mind, so they dont need to send out a casting call.

I just read an interesting spec about Zod taking over Lex's body, which could be what the "super-powered Lex" is all about.

I'm not sure I like that idea. I think I prefer Brainiac to be blended with Lex.

Zod taking over Lex's body. Not sure I like that idea. It would make sense since Jor-El posessed Lionel's body, but Zod should have his own body. Not to mention Jor-El is dead and Zod is in the Phantom Zone.

[The Sage]

I said that whole "Braniac is created in Zod's image" awhile ago, and people acted like I was nuts. Personally i love the idea. Marsters should of been Zod in the first place. If Zod comes out looking huge next to Clark, it takes away from his mystic. The only Zod that has ever really worked, was in first two Superman films.


I don't understand how Zod looking huge next to Clark would take away his mystique. Personally that should happen. This is Zod after all.


As to Lex/Brainac there is a long standing history of it. The combination of Braniac and Lex has always been one of, if not the toughest villian Superman has ever had to deal with. I like the idea that Brainiac could make Lex think he was losing it again. Lex looking in the mirror and seeing Brainiac. Hearing voices.

Now that I would like.

[The Sage]

Hey, I was cruising through some threads over on HNR and ran across this:

http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=47

Sounds exciting with the FX explosions and a helicopter...

:up:

What is it with explosions and helicopters on this show...

[Serene]

http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=47

From the department of looking way to close at this.. why is it that that within the text of the letter they refer to it at Smallville 3 Films, but the letterhead address (at the bottom) says Smallville 1 Films?

And whatcha got against helicopters and explosions, Sage? Wouldn't want people to start calling the show a "soap opera," now would we? ;)

[The Sage]

http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=47

From the department of looking way to close at this.. why is it that that within the text of the letter they refer to it at Smallville 3 Films, but the letterhead address (at the bottom) says Smallville 1 Films?

And whatcha got against helicopters and explosions, Sage? Wouldn't want people to start calling the show a "soap opera," now would we? ;)

I think it'll be like the third time they used explosions with helicopters. How bout a jet. ;)

[Serene]

I think it'll be like the third time they used explosions with helicopters. How bout a jet. ;)

Yeah.. maybe it can be invisible too.

Oops.. wrong superhero. :)

[mellyM]

is there a such thing as a 3rd unit?

[jas01724]

From the department of looking way to close at this.. why is it that that within the text of the letter they refer to it at Smallville 3 Films, but the letterhead address (at the bottom) says Smallville 1 Films?I assume they still have letterhead from when it was Smallville 1 Films back in season one. They obviously didn't bother to update the name after season three ...

[triplet]

Hmm... I always wondered why they called it "Smallville 3 Films"... he he he

[superboy13]

My guess: Lionel acts as a vessel for: Zod, kind of a long shot, since he's already Lion-El, but I'd love to see Lionel go "mano a mano" with Clark

[avidreader]

http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=47

want people to start calling the show a "soap opera," now would we? ;)

Apparently that park is Lex's backyard. The same site was used in Commencement, when Lana and Lex were arguing over the stone as Lana is getting into the helicopter.

Could the alien showdown be taking place here?

[rumpuso]

Could the alien showdown be taking place here?
I haven't been checking the spoilers regularly as I used to. Has there actually been a spoiler mentioning a showdown between Zod and Clark????

[Serene]

Almost entirely off subject.. but I believe I read somewhere that the Luthor mansion is the same building used for the Mutant school in the X-Men movies. I thought that was kind of a cool DC/Marvel overlap.

[avidreader]

I haven't been checking the spoilers regularly as I used to. Has there actually been a spoiler mentioning a showdown between Zod and Clark????

We havent got any official spoilers, but it is kind of expected.

Almost entirely off subject.. but I believe I read somewhere that the Luthor mansion is the same building used for the Mutant school in the X-Men movies. I thought that was kind of a cool DC/Marvel overlap.

I think they mention that on the commentary for the Smallville Pilot. It is cool. :up:

[avidreader]

You guys might want to check this out. There's alot of chit chat going on about the filming of this episode.

Pretty cool!

http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3227&st=60

[Serene]

You guys might want to check this out. There's alot of chit chat going on about the filming of this episode.

Pretty cool!

http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3227&st=60


Plumbers crack! Bwahahahahaha! Damn, I wish she'd gotten pics. ;)

[rumpuso]

Wow, you know as cute as that story is with Tom walking his 3 dogs off set, I wonder if he is scared to leave the security of the building/set when obviously there are people out there just waiting to pounce or chat or get pictures. I kinda feel for the guy. Out walking his dogs yet needing to keep a close eye on the family following behind him.

The price of stardom, I suppose.

[Serene]

Wow, you know as cute as that story is with Tom walking his 3 dogs off set, I wonder if he is scared to leave the security of the building/set when obviously there are people out there just waiting to pounce or chat or get pictures. I kinda feel for the guy. Out walking his dogs yet needing to keep a close eye on the family following behind him.

The price of stardom, I suppose.

I'm kinda surprised he didn't have a security guard with him. I wonder if that's a rare occurence when he's on location, I would hope so.

Funny that he had on his traditional blue t-shirt and red jacket...Maybe he wears those at home too. :)

[rumpuso]

Oh I bet he was wearing that for a scene he had just filmed or was about to film.

[avidreader]

He may not have needed his security guard, cause he had his 3 dogs with him.

I loved the Plumber's Crack. :)

[Serene]

He may not have needed his security guard, cause he had his 3 dogs with him.

Good point. Although pugs aren't very big, my SIL has 3 of them, but still 3 dogs can still do some damage.

I loved the Plumber's Crack. :)
You mean the "really white" plumber's crack. :D Poor guy.. can never get a tan..

[avidreader]

Good point. Although pugs aren't very big, my SIL has 3 of them, but still 3 dogs can still do some damage.

Well one of them was bigger, almost like a Saint Bernard.


You mean the "really white" plumber's crack. :D Poor guy.. can never get a tan..

Well we know he doesnt wear boxers. :D

[jas01724]

The poor guy can't even walk outside the set without someone making a story out of him walking his dogs ... :(

[Serene]

The poor guy can't even walk outside the set without someone making a story out of him walking his dogs ... :(
Yeah, it's kinda crazy how much some fans are into Tom. ;)

I admit it, I love all Tom stories. But I do wish he'd keep better security when he's on-set. Nobody wants anything bad happening to our guy.

[jas01724]

I don't mind fans being excited to see him, or even sharing the stories, but do you need tell people about his butt crack? And of course, that's the part of the story that most people focus on ...

[triplet]

I don't mind fans being excited to see him, or even sharing the stories, but do you need tell people about his butt crack? And of course, that's the part of the story that most people focus on ...

It's a cute detail, it is funny how people seemed to key in on it. Makes Tom seem more... real... I guess.

It makes him seem more like he's just a guy walking his dogs, never mind that he's tall dark and gorgeous and has a great job.

;) :D

[Serene]

I don't mind fans being excited to see him, or even sharing the stories, but do you need tell people about his butt crack? And of course, that's the part of the story that most people focus on ...

Guilty as charged. :(

But, it's such a nice butt. :O

[mellyM]

I don't mind fans being excited to see him, or even sharing the stories, but do you need tell people about his butt crack? And of course, that's the part of the story that most people focus on ...
He probably has a cute butt crack:) I just thought it was cute. And the studio is surrounded by a neighborhood and a public walking trail, so maybe he's kind of used to random people coming by. Its a nice story, and I'm glad the woman and her family got to say hello without incident

[jas01724]

I just put myself in his place. If went out walking the dogs, I wouldn't want it to pop up on message board. The little "details" are what most people want to read, but it creeps me out and makes me feel bad for him.

Plus I know he doesn't like it. Which probably forces my hand a little ...

[mellyM]

I just put myself in his place. If went out walking the dogs, I wouldn't want it to pop up on message board. The little "details" are what most people want to read, but it creeps me out and makes me feel bad for him.

Plus I know he doesn't like it. Which probably forces my hand a little ...
the price of fame I guess, lets hope he has a sense of humor about it. You can't control everything.

[jas01724]

the price of fame I guessYou really don't want to get me started on that. In short: I'll never be signing on for that idea.

[GothicPowerMix1]

This Thread has the possibility of getting as big as the 100th Episode Thread long before it airs

[Super_Ludacris]

Nah there's less speculation

[BaK]

The poor guy can't even walk outside the set without someone making a story out of him walking his dogs ... :(
poor dogs cant have a piece of mind..

maybe shelby can do something about it?

[GothicPowerMix1]

Nah there's less speculation

Same with the 100th Episode at first.

[Super_Ludacris]

Last year's season finale didnt

[GothicPowerMix1]

Last year's season finale didnt

HELLO

This Year we got

Braniac & ZOD & hopefully the return of the other Two Kryptonians

Thanks to Clark they should be freed

[Super_Ludacris]

so? lol

[GothicPowerMix1]

so? lol

This Finale = A WHOLE LET DAMN BIGGER & BETTER then last years

[Super_Ludacris]

It's just another finale..but dont mind me I'm laid back about everything. Last time I got hyped over anything was in like October or something lol

[GothicPowerMix1]

It's just another finale..but dont mind me I'm laid back about everything. Last time I got hyped over anything was in like October or something lol

Oh I know what you mean about over hyped. I am definitely not getting my hopes up after the over all disappointment of the 100th Episode. But I am still excited with the few things with the way this Season will end :up::):up:

[Super_Ludacris]

I'm just glad I can see Erica Durance and Kristin Kreuk on a Thursday after the Office, Everybody hates chris and the NBA and then Jennifer Love Hewitt on a Friday....lol

Low expectations meet Luda, Luda meet low expectations

[KalKai]

Question: Will we be seeing Zod or Jor-El this season on Smallville? — Eddie
Ausiello: Yes, they'll both pop up in the season finale — but they won't be who we think they are. And here's another finale superscoop: Lois and another major character will end up on an airplane that's locked in autopilot — and there's only one person who knows where it's headed. (Hint: He looks like a platinum-topped vampire we once knew and loved.)

Question: Any Smallville scoop would be appreciated. — Bill
Ausiello: This season's cliff-hanger will revolve around a huge choice Clark must make. And it doesn't involve anyone whose name starts with L.

:D :D

[GothicPowerMix1]

Chloe ?
Martha ? (although I can't see them doing anything to Martha they had their fun & her destiny is set in the Superman Universe as a whole)

[Dark_Lord]

Question: Will we be seeing Zod or Jor-El this season on Smallville? — Eddie

Ausiello: Yes, they'll both pop up in the season finale — but they won't be who we think they are. And here's another finale superscoop: Lois and another major character will end up on an airplane that's locked in autopilot — and there's only one person who knows where it's headed. (Hint: He looks like a platinum-topped vampire we once knew and loved.)

Question: Any Smallville scoop would be appreciated. — Bill
Ausiello: This season's cliff-hanger will revolve around a huge choice Clark must make. And it doesn't involve anyone whose name starts with L.

:D :D

What does he mean by they wont be who you think they are? Oh do you think something will happen with the plane? I hope Clark will finally fly and save it:supes:

The finale is going to be great...

[JackMercy]

Question: Will we be seeing Zod or Jor-El this season on Smallville? — Eddie
Ausiello: Yes, they'll both pop up in the season finale — but they won't be who we think they are. And here's another finale superscoop: Lois and another major character will end up on an airplane that's locked in autopilot — and there's only one person who knows where it's headed. (Hint: He looks like a platinum-topped vampire we once knew and loved.)

Question: Any Smallville scoop would be appreciated. — Bill
Ausiello: This season's cliff-hanger will revolve around a huge choice Clark must make. And it doesn't involve anyone whose name starts with L.

:D :D


This guy spoils all my fun... ;)


Some speculation round these parts has possibly hit on some ...er...possibilities regarding numero uno...


Oh, and the answer to number two...


...also doesn't involve a pizza topping...




yet...

[triplet]

Interesting...

Hmmm.....

[AgentPat]

I just put myself in his place. If went out walking the dogs, I wouldn't want it to pop up on message board. The little "details" are what most people want to read, but it creeps me out and makes me feel bad for him.Hmm. There's so many different ways of looking at this, and feeling bad for him is definitely one of 'em. On one level, it sux when your work clothes make you stand out like a sore thumb in public places. It sux when everybody knows you, but you don't know them. It sux when you're so adored by millions of fans, they talk about you on Internet message boards, sometimes in embarrassing ways. It sux when you have whole families that walk up to you and interrupt you when you're minding your own business eating, or walking your dog(s)...

Then again, I wish *I* could bring my pets to work with me. I wish public parks in Boston didn't have an issue with walking dogs off the leash. I wish my employer treated me with kid gloves knowing I was irreplaceable. I wish I had my own live-in trailer for days when I had to work out of the office. I wish I made a couple of a million dollars a year doing the things I loved, and that I didn't need twelve plus years of higher education and ungrateful internships to do it...

*sigh*

Plus I know he doesn't like it. Which probably forces my hand a little ...Ah, ignorance is bliss. :)

[AgentPat]

Oh, and the answer to number two...

...also doesn't involve a pizza topping...

yet...[Jumping up and down like Arnold Horshack from "Welcome Back Kotter"]
(Pat shows her age... AGAIN)

Oooo oooo OOOO!!! Pick me! PICK ME, Mr. M.!
[hands up, waving like a nut]

:D ;)

[KikiDee]

Hmm. There's so many different ways of looking at this, and feeling bad for him is definitely one of 'em. On one level, it sux when your work clothes make you stand out like a sore thumb in public places. It sux when everybody knows you, but you don't know them. It sux when you're so adored by millions of fans, they talk about you on Internet message boards, sometimes in embarrassing ways. It sux when you have whole families that walk up to you and interrupt you when you're minding your own business eating, or walking your dog(s)...

Then again, I wish *I* could bring my pets to work with me. I wish public parks in Boston didn't have an issue with walking dogs off the leash. I wish my employer treated me with kid gloves knowing I was irreplaceable. I wish I had my own live-in trailer for days when I had to work out of the office. I wish I made a couple of a million dollars a year doing the things I loved, and that I didn't need twelve plus years of higher education and ungrateful internships to do it...

*sigh*

Ah, ignorance is bliss. :)

Pat, you are as always full of eloquence.

I think when you decide to become a public figure you have to learn to accept that people will be interested in what you are doing at any given point of the day. It's us common folk's way of "making them real". You don't wan't that then maybe you change your focus to somewhere.... I don't know.... behind the camera instead...... ?

[mellyM]

Pat, you are as always full of eloquence.

I think when you decide to become a public figure you have to learn to accept that people will be interested in what you are doing at any given point of the day. It's us common folk's way of "making them real". You don't wan't that then maybe you change your focus to somewhere.... I don't know.... behind the camera instead...... ?
Exactly, and honestly, if being greeted politely by a family while walking his dogs is the worst thing that happened to him that day, then I'd say he had a pretty good day. I'm not convinced he was all that bothered by it anyway, but still, if you're going to be on tv, people being interested in what you do beyond the camera comes with it. I don't agree with disrupting someone's privacy, or the lengths the some people go to, or the paparazzi. But someone who's a fan and approaches you in a respectful way and then shares their excitement with other fans shouldn't be seen as an invasion.

[jas01724]

You don't wan't that then maybe you change your focus to somewhere.... I don't know.... behind the camera instead...... ?*twiddles thumbs*

But someone who's a fan and approaches you in a respectful way and then shares their excitement with other fans shouldn't be seen as an invasion.I actually agree with you, but my idea of respectful ends somewhere around "plumber's crack".

[mellyM]

I guess things have gotten way off topic huh? I plead guilty:)...so..what do you think Clark's big choice will be?

[KikiDee]

*twiddles thumbs*

LOL,So is this a disgusted twiddle or a contemplative twiddle?:)
I'm actually really looking forward to his directorial debut.

I actually agree with you, but my idea of respectful ends somewhere around "plumber's crack".

I have to laugh a little about this because, well, I'm really juvenile.

Okay, so it was a little crude, but he is mortal. (I know it's hard to believe, but he is.) I can almost guarantee sometime in his lifetime he has laughed at someone for exposing themselves in a similar way and they probably weren't nearly as attractive. It just goes to show that no matter how well we do in life someone will always be around to inject that little dose of humility we all need.

[KikiDee]

I guess things have gotten way off topic huh? I plead guilty:)...so..what do you think Clark's big choice will be?

Guilty as well.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif

Shoud he use his powers for the good of human kind and fight against evil throughout the world?

There's quite a few choices, but if it's due to a person then Martha and Chloe are the only ones that don't start with L.

[avidreader]

Question: Will we be seeing Zod or Jor-El this season on Smallville? — Eddie

Ausiello: Yes, they'll both pop up in the season finale — but they won't be who we think they are. And here's another finale superscoop: Lois and another major character will end up on an airplane that's locked in autopilot — and there's only one person who knows where it's headed. (Hint: He looks like a platinum-topped vampire we once knew and loved.)

Question: Any Smallville scoop would be appreciated. — Bill
Ausiello: This season's cliff-hanger will revolve around a huge choice Clark must make. And it doesn't involve anyone whose name starts with L.

:D :D

This sounds incredible.

Choices, choices. The life of a Superman.

I hope he makes the right ones.

[jas01724]

I was going to write something long, but instead I'll just leave it at this ...

I know that Pat knows how much attention you get just for running a fan site. If it gets too much, you can just shut the site down. The lucky celebs who want to shut their "site" down have the luxury of getting out of the biz (which you can't do very easily when you're on a TV show contract) or self-destructing. The frequency of both of those things in Hollywood should be enough to tell us that this isn't a reasonable consequence of their career choice. Passing it off as something they should have expected is very short-sighted.

LOL,So is this a disgusted twiddle or a contemplative twiddle?Neither.

I can almost guarantee sometime in his lifetime he has laughed at someone for exposing themselves in a similar way and they probably weren't nearly as attractive.I'm not sure what attractiveness has to do with potentially embarrassing situations. But regardless, I'd also want to slap him if he did that while I was around. :up:

[Mike_D202]

I cant wait. :(

[Kal-El 8]

Question: Will we be seeing Zod or Jor-El this season on Smallville? — Eddie
Ausiello: Yes, they'll both pop up in the season finale — but they won't be who we think they are. And here's another finale superscoop: Lois and another major character will end up on an airplane that's locked in autopilot — and there's only one person who knows where it's headed. (Hint: He looks like a platinum-topped vampire we once knew and loved.)

Question: Any Smallville scoop would be appreciated. — Bill
Ausiello: This season's cliff-hanger will revolve around a huge choice Clark must make. And it doesn't involve anyone whose name starts with L.

:D :D

Sounds great.

Jor-EL & Zod :eek:

Lois & Chloe in the airplane ?

Brainiac is involved


I'll bet the choice Clark will have to make has something to do with his DESTINY.

I can't wait.

[avidreader]

Sounds great.

Jor-EL & Zod :eek:

Lois & Chloe in the airplane ?

Brainiac is involved


I'll bet the choice Clark will have to make has something to do with his DESTINY.

I can't wait.

Since Lois is now working for Martha, my guess would be that its Lois and Martha in the plane.

Will Clark have to make the choice of using his powers (i.e. flying) in front of the world to see.

[Serene]

Since Lois is now working for Martha, my guess would be that its Lois and Martha in the plane.

Will Clark have to make the choice of using his powers (i.e. flying) in front of the world to see.

I wonder..

It seems like the hardest choices for Clark involve showing how he does have limitations. Remember Martha saying to him, after Jonathan's death, "Could you have chosen between them?" Perhaps that was a bit of foreshadowing?

Maybe it is Lois and Martha in the plane (after all, mythology has had Supes saving Lois in a plane before) and his choice is to save either the plane from a certain crash, or... Chloe (since it's not an L person, and Chloe has become his "sidekick" recently).

Lana will be on the sidelines having tea with Lex and keeping score, I guess. :D

Oh wait! I just thought of something even tougher! Maybe it's Lois and Lex in the plane, and the choice is between saving them or Martha!

That's a more interesting combination.. I think.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

This is it - they will not be who we think they are. I hope to God they finally expose Jor-El as The Eradicator once and for all.

[Mike_D202]

Well if its on an airplace one thing is for sure: Clark shall be flying. :D

Or super-leaping for awhile for the non-flyers out there.

[SsM]

Dean Cain doesn;t look very evil or imposing to me...

you obviously didnt see him in that tv movie the perfect husband... DUDE was out of his mind evil looking towards the end

[BaK]

Okay, so it was a little crude, but he is mortal. ...
:confused:
I thought he was mortal for just 2 episodes..

[AgentPat]

Well if its on an airplace one thing is for sure: Clark shall be flying. :DAnd we have a winner!! Take a bow, Mike.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/prize.gif

[triplet]

This is it - they will not be who we think they are. I hope to God they finally expose Jor-El as The Eradicator once and for all.

Bruce, you may have hit upon something there... I wonder if that's what he meant about that? Interesting...

As soon as I saw the airplane thing, I figured flight might figure into the finale in some way..

:up:

That's great if that is what they're planning... I can't wait.

[Serene]

Bruce, you may have hit upon something there... I wonder if that's what he meant about that? Interesting...

I dunno about that Jor-El is the Eradicator theory. I keep going back to Relic and the clear connection that we know the REAL Jor-El has with the caves and all the symbols there. Maybe that doesn't disprove the theory, but it certainly indicates that the caves are a link b/w Clark and the real Jor-El.

Maybe the reveal is that Lionel really is Jor-El now. *shrug*

I wonder if the speculation for this ep will be as extenuous as it was for Reckoning? :)

[triplet]

I used to like the Eradicator theory but given how more sympathetic "Jor-El" has gotten this season, I wasn't sure that he was the Eradicator anymore...

I guess we'll see...

[Lara]

I imagine it is Chloe in the plane Braniac would want her out of the way she did foil his plan last time as to the other spoilerwhener just too many possibilities. About the dpg walking the lady lied to him pretending not to know him or what he was doing. That is just creepy she could have said we're big fans we love your show. He had to know they were lying and the crack thing is out of line. I don't think anyone of us would lie to him or reveal that (well maybe in a few pms not publicly)

[Zorex]

That plane thing has gotten me very intrigued. Not terribly surprised about the Zod and Jor-El confirmation. That bit about Clark having to make a choice would have been pretty much worthless without the mention of it not involving any "L" characters.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I used to like the Eradicator theory but given how more sympathetic "Jor-El" has gotten this season, I wasn't sure that he was the Eradicator anymore...

I guess we'll see...

They could have done that so that ppl could be surprised again. At that time everybody was talking about how he could only be The Eradicator, Brainiac or Zod. They even went so far as to directly ask Gough who said that he "could be".
Up until now I thought that maybe they had that plan because of the no-Kryptonians rule (Eradicator is not a Kryptonian but a Kryptonian machine so is not obligated to that rule) but then Singer went on board on the movie and as a fan of the series gave them more freedom and since they now can use Kryptonians it's Jor-El again.
But let's face it folks: it would be really lame after all that Jor-El did in the past if they got away with that explanation.
I re-watched Covenant again and I like many fans can't get past it. It's obvious that it is The Eradicator or at least painted as it. They use his powers in the cave (ability to give a human the powers of Superman like Jonathan and Lindsay plus the ray of light used to choke Jonathan is the one Eradicator uses).
Add to it the way he behaved (not like the Jor-El we know) and the menaces he made (he was prepared to take Jonathan's life in the caves if Clark didn't go with him).
It was like someone that had no heart and was cold like a...machine. Yes, Jor-El has had a bit of a change lately but Eradicator isn't always evil but he was obsessed with the last son of Krypton and preserving the Kryptonian heritage on earth.
Now to go back to what Serene has said, the Jor-El in Relic is like the one we know and I really believe that one is. It's hard to believe that Relic's Jor-El would ever threaten Jonathan Kent who by the way was the son of the man who helped him in that episode.
It just doesn't add up and would leave too many holes if they don't expose the voice we know as Jor-El as The Eradicator who had assumed his identity for whatever purpose.

As far as the choice: maybe he finally acepts who he is and that he can fly...lol Or he decides to travel the world, who knows ? It probably won't be the choice to be Superman yet.

[avidreader]

^^^ Maybe Brainiac has been controlling or corrupting the Jor-el (spirit, essence, whatever he is) and the real Jor-el wont be exposed until Brainiac is gone.

You have to ask why was Brainiac hiding in an Asteroid orbiting the earth all this time.

And I cant get past Jor-el punishing Clark in Arrival, just for disobeying him.


So I think there is some merrit to your theory BruceWayne.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

^^^ Maybe Brainiac has been controlling or corrupting the Jor-el (spirit, essence, whatever he is) and the real Jor-el wont be exposed until Brainiac is gone.

You have to ask why was Brainiac hiding in an Asteroid orbiting the earth all this time.

And I cant get past Jor-el punishing Clark in Arrival, just for disobeying him.


So I think there is some merrit to your theory BruceWayne.

Indeed and who's not to say he didn't have anything to do with that spaceship landing ? And plus in the comics it was Eradicator who built The Fortress... There has to be more than meets the eye.

[Serene]

Indeed and who's not to say he didn't have anything to do with that spaceship landing ? And plus in the comics it was Eradicator who built The Fortress... There has to be more to meet the eye.

The ray of light in Covenant being something that the Eradicator uses is very suspicious indeed. I didn't know that.

Curiouser and curiouser...

[avidreader]

Indeed and who's not to say he didn't have anything to do with that spaceship landing ? And plus in the comics it was Eradicator who built The Fortress... There has to be more than meets the eye.

It was like he was waiting there until Clark put the stones together. He may have needed Clark to do that.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Yes, you're right. Clark could very well have fallen into a trap. It's really sad that we lost Christopher Reeve because they rewrote all season 4 because a huge part of it was centered around Dr. Swann's character and I wonder how he would fall in this story and what answers he could have provided.

[AgentPat]

As soon as I saw the airplane thing, I figured flight might figure into the finale in some way...
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif

From Ausiello:
Lois and another major character [Martha? :p] will end up on an airplane that's locked in autopilot:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade17.jpg


From Crusade:
Bridgette Crosby: Martha, I can help you if you'll let me. Now where's your son?

Martha: I don't know. He flew. He flew away.

Bridgette: So he's... He has completely embraced his Kryptonian destiny.


From Ausiello:
This season's cliff-hanger will revolve around a huge choice Clark must make.


Ah... to embrace or not to embrace, that is the question. [thinking]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/velocity2.jpg


Not getting any younger, Clark. And that plane is getting further away (not that it matters.)

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade18.jpg


CLIFFHANGER...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade19.jpg





...Or, it could just be a one-liner, like "Son of Jor-El..." etc. etc., followed by the KNEEL! thing. LOL

[GothicPowerMix1]

So there is a Plane

Clark ahs to make some kind of choice between People who's name do not start wtih L

Zod is confirmed

Hmmmmm

[GothicPowerMix1]

There is a Movie out there with a really KICK ASS Plane Sequence with it going out of control & just flying all over the place in Cloud's. I will try to get it & make a GIF of it. If Smallville had a Scene like this with Clark flying towards it as it spin's out of control :eek:

[KalKai]

K-Site Rumor:

A Car In The Daily Planet Basement?


We received an e-mail tip today about something that may currently be filming for the fifth season finale of Smallville. Our apologies if this doesn't pan out. Apparently a scene was filmed today (March 29) where a cr crashed into the basement of the Daily Planet. At this point, however, we do not have any confirmation on this.

[rumpuso]

Great post up there Pat.

Although perhaps now with this new rumor, the choice Clark will be faced with will be saving the people on the plane or Chloe (?) at the Daily Planet.

[mellyM]

theres a new article at Wizard with James Marsters...I'm excited about what he says is in store for Clark:)
What are Brainiac’s plans for Clark Kent?
I am so gonna sucker Clark. It’s not just Kryptonite that’s his vulnerability, it’s his own naiveté at this point in his life, and I’m going to go after that. I’m going to separate him from everybody who loves him, take his friends away, take his family away, isolate him, and then I’m going to corrupt his mind. God help the world when Superman is confused.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazines/wizard.cfm

[rumpuso]

theres a new article at Wizard with James Marsters...I'm excited about what he says is in store for Clark:)
What are Brainiac’s plans for Clark Kent?
I am so gonna sucker Clark. It’s not just Kryptonite that’s his vulnerability, it’s his own naiveté at this point in his life, and I’m going to go after that. I’m going to separate him from everybody who loves him, take his friends away, take his family away, isolate him, and then I’m going to corrupt his mind. God help the world when Superman is confused.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazines/wizard.cfm
OMG! This sounds so awesome. I wonder how much of this he can accomplish in season 5 and how much will spill over to season 6.

[triplet]

Cool... :up:

I love Marsters... His Brianiac is totally awesome! :D

[mellyM]

ok, James Marsters said this in the article: I’ve gotten to work most with Tom [Welling] and that is fabulous. We both have PSPs so we race each other on those and goof around.

Does anyone know what a PSP is??

[GothicPowerMix1]

Does anyone know what a PSP is??

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4986/001286371on.jpg

So Tom Welling & James Masters play these as well cool

[KalKai]

They should get a DS Lite. :p

[mellyM]

Oh sorry, I guess I thought they were physically racing, LOL...I do know what those are

[avidreader]

Regarding those Ausiello spoilers, remember in last week's column someone asked him if he knew whether Clark was going to fly again and his answer was let me do some snooping.

And this week he comes back with some scoop about a plane flying out of control.

I guess it may be wishful thinking, but its about time anyway.

FLY SUPERMAN FLY.

[AgentPat]

Great post up there Pat.Tanks! :D

Although perhaps now with this new rumor, the choice Clark will be faced with will be saving the people on the plane or Chloe (?) at the Daily Planet.I'm thinking whatever they've come up with for this season's cliffhanger has to be big. I mean, really BIG. They have to top last year's finale, and that's not gonna be easy. Each year, they manage to go bigger...

S1: Tornado hits Smallville, Lionel is trapped under mansion debris, Lex hesitates saving him, Jonathan chases tabloid reporter Roger Nixon - who knows Clark's secret, Clark's ship "wakes up" in front of Martha, and Clark attempts to save Lana as she gets sucked up into the tornado.
S2: While on his honeymoon, Lex crashes his jet over the ocean, jaded by Clark, Chloe forges a deal with Lionel, Martha loses the baby, and Clark runs away to Metropolis on a motorcycle - wearing a RedK ring!
S3: Lana leaves for Paris, Lionel exacts his revenge from his prison cell, Chloe is blown up in her "safe" house, Lex is poisoned, Jonathan is left unconscious on the floor of the cave - possibly dead, and Clark is sucked into the cave wall by Jor-El in order to be "reborn."
S4: Second meteor shower destroys Smallville, fate of Martha and Jonathan uncertain, black ship lands - and opens in front of Lana, and Clark tosses the FOS crystal into the artic ice.

Given their past history of outdoing prior season finales, I don't think Clark's big cliffhanger this year will involve a choice on such a "small" scale. There's also other things to consider, not the least of which will be the proximity of Vessel's broadcast date to the release date of SR, which I'm sure will motivate all involved to up their game, just a wee bit. LOL I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a flying scene - or a cliffhanger that suggests one as resolution come the 6th season's premiere.

[Serene]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazines/wizard.cfm

What a great article with Marsters!

I liked this part:

How is being the new guy on the set treating you?
It’s the most harmonious set I’ve ever worked on. There are no jerks in the pool. I’ve gotten to work most with Tom [Welling] and that is fabulous. We both have PSPs so we race each other on those and goof around. Then working with Michael Rosenbaum [chuckles], it’s like the circus comes to town, you just want to sit back and watch. On a 15-hour day, to have him come in cracking jokes, it’s better than coffee. And Annette O’Toole—still so hot, oh my god.

[triplet]

It's cool he thinks Annette is sexy... :up:

Way to go, Annette! :D

[GothicPowerMix1]

It's cool he thinks Annette is sexy... :up:

Annette = milf :up:

[triplet]

milf?

:confused:

[KalKai]

Mother I'd Like to F***. :D

:O

[Serene]

Mother I'd Like to F***. :D

:O

The last Mother's Wknd at my son's college we saw some guys walking around with shirts that said, "MILF Hunt."

Pretty rude.. (but I might have snickered a little bit. :O )

[The Incredible Hulk]

you think THAT's rude, you should see their website and videos.... :eek:

[GothicPowerMix1]

you should see their website and videos.... :eek:

ssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhh

[triplet]

Mother I'd Like to F***. :D

:O

Oh, too funny... :D

[JAX]

Old news, but K-site mentions Glover talking about J.S.:

He's here today, actually," Glover says. "There's a nice twist to who he is in this episode. He's made a couple appearances. There was some Krypton-ese thing where he comes back. This is his second appearance after that."

Kinda makes me think that JS may indeed play Jor-el while Marsters may play ZOD. No news has been released on any sort of casting. My assumption is its being filmed and we would have heard if they cast an unkown or well-known for the roll of ZOD.

[avidreader]

Old news, but K-site mentions Glover talking about J.S.:

He's here today, actually," Glover says. "There's a nice twist to who he is in this episode. He's made a couple appearances. There was some Krypton-ese thing where he comes back. This is his second appearance after that."

Kinda makes me think that JS may indeed play Jor-el while Marsters may play ZOD. No news has been released on any sort of casting. My assumption is its being filmed and we would have heard if they cast an unkown or well-known for the roll of ZOD.


I think the general consensus is that John Schneider will be in the previous episode, Oracle.

[triplet]

Hmmm... interesting.

You might be right, however, avid...

[JAX]

Hmmm... interesting.

You might be right, however, avid...

JAX can only speculate. 9.9 times out 10 I'm way off.

[JackMercy]

Re: Clark, air, and a plane...and that other thing coming out...

...connect the dots in-between set-up and number 6, and you might get a little ... "Touche" ;)


(once again, I think Pat's got the right idea...)


:cool:

[triplet]

:confused:

Re: Clark, air, and a plane...and that other thing coming out...

...connect the dots in-between set-up and number 6, and you might get a little ... "Touche"


(once again, I think Pat's got the right idea...)





Is Jack's post referring to this post of Pat's?


http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif



From Ausiello:Lois and another major character [Martha? :p] will end up on an airplane that's locked in autopilot:http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade17.jpg




From Crusade:Bridgette Crosby: Martha, I can help you if you'll let me. Now where's your son?

Martha: I don't know. He flew. He flew away.

Bridgette: So he's... He has completely embraced his Kryptonian destiny.




From Ausiello:This season's cliff-hanger will revolve around a huge choice Clark must make.
Ah... to embrace or not to embrace, that is the question. [thinking]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/velocity2.jpg


Not getting any younger, Clark. And that plane is getting further away (not that it matters.)

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade18.jpg


CLIFFHANGER...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade19.jpg





...Or, it could just be a one-liner, like "Son of Jor-El..." etc. etc., followed by the KNEEL! thing. LOL

[AgentPat]

Is Jack's post referring to this post of Pat's?Heh. Lessee... Here's my take on Jack's take of my take...

"Dueling franchises" is more than just a funny - albeit accurate - description for the fandom. Every time the bar is set, it becomes the new quality benchmark for the "competition."

Fans following along with various rumored details of that other franchise know there's a visual effects extravaganza wrapped around a scene involving Superman saving people on a... um... "plane." *cough* Spoilers for Vessel are pointing towards a similar situation in Smallville. But "our" Clark doesn't fly.


Yet.


The bar has been set. The challenge has been issued. GO!

Flash forward to the premiere for SV's S6, which will be a couple of months *after* Matt Beck et al have had time to... um... uh, do some homework.

Tune in sometime in September to hear, "Touché."

:cool:

[triplet]

Okay, you lost me when you started talking about Matt Beck... Who is he?

And where does a fencing term come into this?

Maybe you should PM me with the magic decoder ring...

[Timstuff]

My brother was supposed to tape tonight's Smallville for me but he stopped it after 15 minutes because he hated the episode so bad and he says that now he's not a dedicated Smallville fan anymore. :(

Tell me, was the episode really that awful? According to him the show has jumped the shark to him now. :(

[triplet]

No, it wasn't that awful... I liked it. It wasn't the best ever, but better than average...

I'd probably give it a 3 or 3.5...

[avidreader]

Okay, you lost me when you started talking about Matt Beck... Who is he?

And where does a fencing term come into this?

Maybe you should PM me with the magic decoder ring...

Matt Beck is the Special Effects Supervisor.

[avidreader]

My brother was supposed to tape tonight's Smallville for me but he stopped it after 15 minutes because he hated the episode so bad and he says that now he's not a dedicated Smallville fan anymore. :(

Tell me, was the episode really that awful? According to him the show has jumped the shark to him now. :(

Like Melly said in the Hypnotic Thread, which I thought was a very good point, it was an episode setting up the remainder of the season. Sometimes its a hard thing to pull off.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Just watch the parts with Lex & Fine & you are set :o

[AgentPat]

Matt Beck is the Special Effects Supervisor.:up:

He's with Entity FX. I think I spelled his name wrong though. I think it's just "Mat," not "Matt."

And Timstuff, slap your brother for me LOL. There'd be steam shooting out my ears if I asked somebody to tape a SV ep for me and they decided 15 minutes in to stop the tape because they felt the show had "jumped the shark."

Uh. Muh. Gawd!! Yeah, blood everywhere, folks. :mad:

[GothicPowerMix1]

:up:

He's with Entity FX. I think I spelled his name wrong though. I think it's just "Mat," not "Matt."

And Timstuff, slap your brother for me LOL. There'd be steam shooting out my ears if I asked somebody to tape a SV ep for me and they decided 15 minutes in to stop the tape because they felt the show had "jumped the shark."

Uh. Muh. Gawd!! Yeah, blood everywhere, folks. :mad:

Blame the writers not everyone will like everything. Besides there are always "alternate" ways to see Episodes :o

[triplet]

:up:

He's with Entity FX. I think I spelled his name wrong though. I think it's just "Mat," not "Matt."

Got that from avid...

So, what's with the touché at the end?

I'm still confused but oh, well... That's nothing new. :D

[avidreader]

:up:

He's with Entity FX. I think I spelled his name wrong though. I think it's just "Mat," not "Matt."

And Timstuff, slap your brother for me LOL. There'd be steam shooting out my ears if I asked somebody to tape a SV ep for me and they decided 15 minutes in to stop the tape because they felt the show had "jumped the shark."

Uh. Muh. Gawd!! Yeah, blood everywhere, folks. :mad:

I'd love to know what people's interpretations of jumping the shark are. If its that they throw in a gimmick because they're getting desperate for viewers then that's clearly not the case.

This show has two more seasons at most left. So they need to start getting things to a point where they can finish them off.

[AgentPat]

So, what's with the touché at the end?It's just an expression.

tou·ché (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=touche)
Used to acknowledge a hit in fencing or a successful criticism or an effective point in argument.
...or an impressive feature quality visual effects' job done on a television budget.
:p

[NHawk19]

Re: Clark, air, and a plane...and that other thing coming out...

...connect the dots in-between set-up and number 6, and you might get a little ... "Touche" ;)


(once again, I think Pat's got the right idea...)


:cool:

Touche . . . . sounds like it may be a win-win.

Always leave them wanting more. Who knows that better than you Jack?

[GothicPowerMix1]

Who is this Jack guy anyway ? Has he prooven to be someone wtih connectoins to WB or something ? I see so many of you refer to him like hes an insider & believing everything he says

[KikiDee]

Who is this Jack guy anyway ? Has he prooven to be someone wtih connectoins to WB or something ? I see so many of you refer to him like hes an insider & believing everything he says

Now, that would be telling.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[GothicPowerMix1]

Now, that would be telling.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

I guess I don't have to be a believer then cool :up:

[avidreader]

From Ksite.

Big News To Be Posted This Weekend
We have some very big Smallville news for you that unfortunately is being embargoed so we cannot post it until after midnight (ET) tonight.
So, be sure to come to KryptonSite after midnight for some very major information regarding this season's finale!

Could it be news on the casting of Zod! :eek:

[GothicPowerMix1]

From Ksite.
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Could it be news on the casting of Zod! :eek: [/left]

Looking forward to it

[KalKai]

It's April 1st tomorrow..

in 15 minutes actually, at least here.

[GothicPowerMix1]

It's April 1st tomorrow..

Damn I forgot

Yeah I am not believing anything I read tomorrow :o Thanks for the reminder

[avidreader]

It's April 1st tomorrow..

in 15 minutes actually, at least here.

Damn him! I forgot about that. :mad:

Where are you?

[KalKai]

On an island, lol, in Europe.

[avidreader]

On an island, lol, in Europe.

That sounds nice. Place of abode or vacation?

[KalKai]

Always lived here.

[avidreader]

Always lived here.

Cool! :up: Sounds exotic. :)

[Kane]

Damn april fools.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Damn april fools.

Someone fooled you already ? Its not even April Fools Day here yet & besides Im not beliueving ANYTHING I read on Aprils Fools. Thats toooo obvious

[rumpuso]

Yes, be cautious of anything you read on KSite tomorrow. Craig's always good for a few April Fools jokes.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Yes, be cautious of anything you read on KSite tomorrow. Craig's always good for a few April Fools jokes.

Just on ksite ? I say dont read anything you read tomorrow PERIOD :o

[rumpuso]

Just on ksite ? I say dont read anything you read tomorrow PERIOD :o
Good point.

[triplet]

Yes, be cautious of anything you read on KSite tomorrow. Craig's always good for a few April Fools jokes.

Could it be this easy?

Craig posted tonight that "big news" about the season finale will be posted on the site after midnight tonight...

Should this "news" be taken with a grain of salt, rumpuso?

Is it an April Fool's joke?

I guess we'll have to see just what "news" Craig posts (http://www.kryptonsite.com/news.htm)... ;) :D

[avidreader]

From Ksite.
[/color][/size][/font]

Quote:
Big News To Be Posted This Weekend
We have some very big Smallville news for you that unfortunately is being embargoed so we cannot post it until after midnight (ET) tonight.
So, be sure to come to KryptonSite after midnight for some very major information regarding this season's finale!




Could it be news on the casting of Zod! :eek: [/left]

Sure is Triplet. :up:

[Kane]

Someone fooled you already ? Its not even April Fools Day here yet & besides Im not beliueving ANYTHING I read on Aprils Fools. Thats toooo obvious

How could I be fooled when the info isnt even out yet? Im just saying damn april fools cause its such a dumb concept.

[AgentPat]

From Ksite....

Could it be news on the casting of Zod! :eek:OY!

Uh... yeah... um... tomorrow is April Fools. Stay away from K-Site. Seriously. LOL

To THIS day, I want to HURT Craig for this "breaking" NEWS (http://www.kryptonsite.com/aprilfools2004.htm) lead story from April, 2004. :mad: :rolleyes: :(

[Serene]

Someone posted this on HNR. Not sure if this is the right episode, but I *think* they are filming Vessel now?

They're shooting SMALLVILLE right now at the Burnaby Filmstudios. I was on set (sneeked trough the security (IMG:style_emoticons/darklook/cool.gif) ) I saw Allison Mack on set. I was standing beside a trailer and all of a sudden she came out of that trailer. Didn't see Tom though, not sure if he actually was on set. They were shooting a big riot scene, with a lot of extras...roughly 80 people, and a faked S.W.A.T. team. I tlaked to one of the cop-extras and he told me that they are shooting until 6 am. They also had burning cars there and most of the extras had faked blood on their shirts. Too bad I didn't have my camera with me!!!

[avidreader]

Someone posted this on HNR. Not sure if this is the right episode, but I *think* they are filming Vessel now?

They're shooting SMALLVILLE right now at the Burnaby Filmstudios. I was on set (sneeked trough the security (IMG:style_emoticons/darklook/cool.gif) ) I saw Allison Mack on set. I was standing beside a trailer and all of a sudden she came out of that trailer. Didn't see Tom though, not sure if he actually was on set. They were shooting a big riot scene, with a lot of extras...roughly 80 people, and a faked S.W.A.T. team. I tlaked to one of the cop-extras and he told me that they are shooting until 6 am. They also had burning cars there and most of the extras had faked blood on their shirts. Too bad I didn't have my camera with me!!!

This finale is sounding awesome. Did you read the one where Lex's porsche is chasing Lana's Envoy down a hill.

[The Sage]

I think my crazy ideas would work better than what they're putting together.

[avidreader]

Found these over at the HNR Forum.

http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3227&st=105

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/Vaction_3_28_06_020.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/Vaction_3_28_06_Lex4.jpg

[Mike_D202]

nice find!

[avidreader]

I just noticed that MR and his double are the only one's not wearing jeans.

[Serene]

It looks like Kristin in that first one, just to the right of MR, in a long black down coat.

Guess it could just be the make-up girl, or a PA with long dark hair though. LOL..

[avidreader]

It looks like Kristin in that first one, just to the right of MR, in a long black down coat.

Guess it could just be the make-up girl, or a PA with long dark hair though. LOL..

I think you might be right. That's Lana's car, so it stands to reason that she would be there. Nice pickup.

[Mike_D202]

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/vessel.jpg

[Serene]

^^lol!

[triplet]

*snort*

:D

[AgentPat]

Oh, MAN! LOL I looked at that pic at work and didn't "get" it. (nasty monitor)
Now that I see it at home, I'm LMFAO!!! Nice work, Mike! :D :up:

[rumpuso]

I'm dense...I see Clark/Superman with a stranglehold on ?????

[AgentPat]

That's Reeve and Stamp from S2. :D

[GothicPowerMix1]

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/vessel.jpg

Cool Manip

[Scooter]

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/vessel.jpg

Hahahaha!

[KalKai]

Question: Will there be anything happening between Chloe and Clark on Smallville before season's end? — Brianna
Ausiello: Not likely. With Milton and Lex teaming up to basically destroy mankind, Clark won’t have time for tonsil hockey

Question: Any chance Al Gough will drop his reluctance to let Clark fly on Smallville? — Sean P.
Ausiello: Let me say this: If the finale ends the way they have it planned now, next season could see a whole world of change for our wonder boy.

Question: Has Smallville been renewed yet? — Candyce
Ausiello: Not officially, but it's a shoo-in. And this just in: Lex's late mother will make an appearance in next month's finale.

[Kal-El 8]

Question: Will there be anything happening between Chloe and Clark on Smallville before season's end? — Brianna
Ausiello: Not likely. With Milton and Lex teaming up to basically destroy mankind, Clark won’t have time for tonsil hockey

Question: Any chance Al Gough will drop his reluctance to let Clark fly on Smallville? — Sean P.
Ausiello: Let me say this: If the finale ends the way they have it planned now, next season could see a whole world of change for our wonder boy.

Question: Has Smallville been renewed yet? — Candyce
Ausiello: Not officially, but it's a shoo-in. And this just in: Lex's late mother will make an appearance in next month's finale.

Interesting

[AgentPat]

Question: Any chance Al Gough will drop his reluctance to let Clark fly on Smallville? — Sean P.
Ausiello: Let me say this: If the finale ends the way they have it planned now, next season could see a whole world of change for our wonder boy.*cough*


...Fans following along with various rumored details of that other franchise know there's a visual effects extravaganza wrapped around a scene involving Superman saving people on a... um... "plane." *cough* Spoilers for Vessel are pointing towards a similar situation in Smallville. But "our" Clark doesn't fly.


Yet.


The bar has been set. The challenge has been issued. GO!

Flash forward to the premiere for SV's S6, which will be a couple of months *after* Matt Beck et al have had time to... um... uh, do some homework.

Tune in sometime in September to hear, "Touché."http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif

[avidreader]

Awesome! Awesome! Awesome! :supes:

Cant wait!

But then we have to wait through that dreaded Summer Hiatus again. :mad:

[Super_Ludacris]

Speak for youself there tons of movies and Entourage on HBO to keep me going. Plus you know...........IT'S SUMMER! time go out and vacation it up

[Mike_D202]

Are there any other summer blockbusters other than "Superman Returns" we can watch until Smallville season 6 starts?? :(

[Zorex]

*cough*


http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif
oh. my.

awesome :up:

Just imagining how badly they might tease us is tickling me. And what I'm imagining, based on what you said...it'd tie things together rather nicely, after Clark's couple of super-jumps this season.

[Brainiac 8]

Awesome! Awesome! Awesome! :supes:

Cant wait!

But then we have to wait through that dreaded Summer Hiatus again. :mad:


I know, I hate the hiatus. But Pat, if that's true, we may get the best season of television ever come September.:supes:

Mike- Superman Returns, X-Men 3, Cars. Just to name a few that I'm looking forward too.:)

[AgentPat]

...But Pat, if that's true, we may get the best season of television ever come September. :supes:No argument from this peanut gallery, B8.

Fans have been BEGGING... no, *pleading* for Clark to fly for quite some time. And they don't want any more cop-outs. None of this "it was Kal-El, not Clark" BS, or worse, "flying makes it too easy for Clark" nonsense. :p You guys think it's bad now? Pffffft!!! Just WAIT till after SR unspools. Heh. Clark is nineteen and will be twenty next season. Hellloooooo? 'Nuf said. LOL

Based on Ausiello and other's spoilers, and perhaps a little wishful thinking (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224515) on my part, my gut feeling is we're ALL gonna be on pins and needles this summer, just DYING to see the S6 premiere. Can you say, "up, up and away?" I'm already excited, and we haven't even seen the S5 finale yet. :D

[Mike_D202]

I cant wait :( almost a month until the season finale. its..gonna...rock.

[Super_Ludacris]

Are there any other summer blockbusters other than "Superman Returns" we can watch until Smallville season 6 starts?? :(


Snakes on a Plane

[SsM]

Snakes on a Plane
YEAh!!!

[AgentPat]

Short list...

5/5 MI3
5/12 Poseidon
5/19 DiVinci Code
5/26 XM3
6/9 Cars
6/30 SR
7/7 POTC2
6/28 Miami Vice
7/18 Clerks 2
7/18 Snakes on a Plane

:)

[Serene]

Based on Ausiello and other's spoilers, and perhaps a little wishful thinking (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224515) on my part, my gut feeling is we're ALL gonna be on pins and needles this summer, just DYING to see the S6 premiere. Can you say, "up, up and away?" I'm already excited, and we haven't even seen the S5 finale yet. :D

Oh, man... I remember how antsy we got last summer waiting for S5 to premiere. If they leave with with a will-he/won't-he fly cliffhanger this season, I think we'll all go nuts!

Oh, and I bet he will. :)

[rumpuso]

It'd be neat if the finale had him falling some great distance and then all of sudden just hovering with a look of sheer determination, then ATTACK on his face as he looks at the airplane...then cut to summer hiatus.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Short list...

5/5 MI3
5/12 Poseidon
5/19 DiVinci Code
5/26 XM3
6/9 Cars
6/30 SR
7/7 POTC2
6/28 Miami Vice
7/18 Clerks 2
7/18 Snakes on a Plane

:)none of them will compete with SR though the only one that might come close is POTC2 but with all the great reviews SR has been getting I doubt anyone will beat it till the 3rd or foruth week.

[Mike_D202]

It'd be neat if the finale had him falling some great distance and then all of sudden just hovering with a look of sheer determination, then ATTACK on his face as he looks at the airplane...then cut to summer hiatus.

Your so right its scary. :O

Tony-

I beg to differ, "Snakes on a Plane" shall rule the summer box office.

[avidreader]

I know the DaVinci Code has a May release, but that movie's gonna be huge.

[avidreader]

It'd be neat if the finale had him falling some great distance and then all of sudden just hovering with a look of sheer determination, then ATTACK on his face as he looks at the airplane...then cut to summer hiatus.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

SCREAM OUT VERY LOUD

But that would be so totally awesome! :up: :)

[Ultimate_Superman]

Tony-

I beg to differ, "Snakes on a Plane" shall rule the summer box office.Your right :(

[Ultimate_Superman]

I know the DaVinci Code has a May release, but that movie's gonna be huge.yes it will be but nothing will over take SR.

[AgentPat]

none of them will compete with SR though the only one that might come close is POTC2 but with all the great reviews SR has been getting I doubt anyone will beat it till the 3rd or foruth week.The hell? Tony, Mike just asked what other blockbuster films there would be to see while waiting for S6 to preem. Who gives a rat's patootie which one will "win?" :rolleyes:

[Ultimate_Superman]

The hell? Tony, Mike just asked what other blockbuster films there would be to see while waiting for S6 to preem. Who gives a rat's patootie which one will "win?" :rolleyes:Whoa there kiddo I was just stating what I was thinking clam yourself down now. take a deep breath and count to 10. You should get use to it the closer the movie comes the more this board will here about it from others just as well. Like it or not.

[triplet]

I think Pat had a good point, Tony:

Not all roads lead to SR anymore than they all lead to SV.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I think Pat had a good point, Tony:

Not all roads lead to SR anymore than they all lead to SV.How so???? I say there is a split in the road that leads one way and one that leads the other.

[triplet]

Maybe I was being too oblique....

What I meant to say that just because they were talking about what other big blockbusters were being released this summer doesn't mean it should turn into a pissing contest between SR and other films...

That said, I'm not sure anyone is really going to be sure how well SR (or any other film set to be released this summer) will do.

A lot of recent films that were supposed slam dunks tanked instead, while others that no one expected to do well have quietly raked in boatloads.

Box Office Trends are NOT exactly predictable right now and I'm not sure that will change between now and June.

[MJZ]

I've noticed that SR fans seem to go out of their way to convince themselves and everyone else how great the film will be, w/o seeing more than 2 minutes of footage.

Not true in every case, but I think that speaks to the majority.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Maybe I was being too oblique....

What I meant to say that just because they were talking about what other big blockbusters were being released this summer doesn't mean it should turn into a pissing contest between SR and other films...

That said, I'm not sure anyone is really going to be sure how well SR (or any other film set to be released this summer) will do.

A lot of recent films that were supposed slam dunks tanked instead, while others that no one expected to do well have quietly raked in boatloads.

Box Office Trends are NOT exactly predictable right now and I'm not sure that will change between now and June.Oh okay Triplet I got you okay:up:

[triplet]

Oh okay Triplet I got you okay

Sometimes I do make sense, even when I'm bone tired... ;) :D

Man, I had a long day already and it's not getting any shorter.

*sigh*

[avidreader]

yes it will be but nothing will over take SR.

But which one will have bigger profits, huh?

[AgentPat]

What I meant to say that just because they were talking about what other big blockbusters were being released this summer doesn't mean it should turn into a pissing contest between SR and other films...:up:

Thanks, Trip.

There's 1100 posts on the topic HERE (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216284), and 650 posts HERE (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223243). Folks can knock themselves out if they're super interested in that stuff. :)

[avidreader]

This season finale sounds like its gonna have everything going in every direction again. It'd be nice to have nother 90 minute episode like Commencement.

I think Supernatural might be airing its finale the week before Smallville, so its possible.

[SsM]

Yeah... Even though the 90 minutes only turned out to be what without commercials.. 48 minutes?? i remember watching it for the first time on my s4 dvds and was like.. wth...

[KalKai]

Commencement was 53 minutes.

[Mike_D202]

And vessel shall be 54 minutes!

[AgentPat]

And vessel shall be 54 minutes!Ooooo!! Have they confirmed that yet?

[smsvmos]

Question: Will there be anything happening between Chloe and Clark on Smallville before season's end? — Brianna

Ausiello: Not likely. With Milton and Lex teaming up to basically destroy mankind, Clark won’t have time for tonsil hockey.

WoW Lex really turns evil by seasons end. Could this change in character be tide with the lawsuit or because next season is the last?

[KalKai]

I dunno where this guy heard these rumors from or if he just invented everything, from supermanhomepage:

IzzyJG99 (http://supermanhomepage.com/profile.php?lookup=4742) on April 6, 2006 3:20pm EST

Rumor has it that Brainiac and Clark have this massive fight that takes place in the sky. According to the more indepth rumors Clark gets his ass handed to him for the better part of the fight. Something along the lines of each time Brainiac hits Clark, Brainiac "downloads" memories of Krypton into Clark's brain. He sees his people dying. How Zod and Brainiac (Disputable!) betrayed their people. As a result Clark gets angry and unlocks all of his powers and ends up throwing Brainiac into the Sun.

[avidreader]

I dunno where this guy heard these rumors from or if he just invented everything, from supermanhomepage:

IzzyJG99 (http://supermanhomepage.com/profile.php?lookup=4742) on April 6, 2006 3:20pm EST

Rumor has it that Brainiac and Clark have this massive fight that takes place in the sky. According to the more indepth rumors Clark gets his ass handed to him for the better part of the fight. Something along the lines of each time Brainiac hits Clark, Brainiac "downloads" memories of Krypton into Clark's brain. He sees his people dying. How Zod and Brainiac (Disputable!) betrayed their people. As a result Clark gets angry and unlocks all of his powers and ends up throwing Brainiac into the Sun.

That sounds pretty cool and feasible. :up:

[AgentPat]

...Rumor has it that Brainiac and Clark have this massive fight that takes place in the sky. According to the more indepth rumors Clark gets his ass handed to him for the better part of the fight. Something along the lines of each time Brainiac hits Clark, Brainiac "downloads" memories of Krypton into Clark's brain. He sees his people dying. How Zod and Brainiac (Disputable!) betrayed their people. As a result Clark gets angry and unlocks all of his powers and ends up throwing Brainiac into the Sun.Oh... MAN!!!

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thud.gif

[KalKai]

lol :D .. sounds a little too good to be true, but I really hope it is.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Rumor has it that Brainiac and Clark have this massive fight that takes place in the sky. According to the more indepth rumors Clark gets his ass handed to him for the better part of the fight. Something along the lines of each time Brainiac hits Clark, Brainiac "downloads" memories of Krypton into Clark's brain. He sees his people dying. How Zod and Brainiac (Disputable!) betrayed their people. As a result Clark gets angry and unlocks all of his powers and ends up throwing Brainiac into the Sun.

Holy ****ing Crap

:up:

Maybe Clark will also see Jor El & Lara when they come up with that plan