Superman OYL - SPOILERS

[TheCorpulent1]

Not really, but it was posted in another thread. I'm not very excited about it.

[JTStarkiller]

Sounds interesting to me. I might have to purchase some Superman after all.

[Darthphere]

Great, like we needed more Superman movie elements in the comics.

[yenaled]

Donner doesn't interest me at all. I was so happy about buying two Superman books with Buisiek on each, now I'm kind of annoyed I won't be getting Action.

This is equal in crappyness as getting the two Flash TV people to write Flash.

[Mister J]

I hear he's bringing the Kryptonian 3 into continuity. I can't say I'm intrigued.

[TheCorpulent1]

The only part that has me interested is seeing Adam Kubert draw everything. Luckily, I can do that in the shop without paying anything.

[Darthphere]

*******.

[Spike_x1]

The only part that has me interested is seeing Adam Kubert draw everything. Luckily, I can do that in the shop without paying anything.:up:

[Binker]

PLOT:
When he didn't have his powers anymore, his life was like anyone else and was better. Now with his powers back, Clark now relives his old life. Being chewed up by Perry, late for mettings, assignments, Lois. Superman has returned, so has Clark's not-so-good life.

REVIEW:
Continuing from "Up, Up & Away", we see Superman back in his normal fashion. Fighting Intergang, Prankster, everyone is happy he's back, except for one: Clark Kent. His life was better when he wasn't Superman, now its vice-versa again.

Out of the two arcs (Action, Superman) this one is the one I had no problems with before getting. I still have concerns over the Action Comics title arc because that storyline kinda makes no sense after the conclusion of "Up, Up & Away". This storyline makes sense because its what happens when someone who has his life in order when he wasn't a superhero, gets that life back and the problems again. The Action Comics one doesn't. It would've if it was part of "Up, Up & Away" but no after. Anyway....more talk on this once I review that issue.

One of the surprises was Lana as the new CEO of LexCorp. I thought someone, prolly new, would be the one who would take over. But Lana? That's unexpected. I think its obivious Luthor will return to get his company back but what I'm really curious about is wheather or not this isma sign that Clark Kent as Superboy has been put back, due to that Smallville shot from Infinite Crisis. Still, time will tell.

Overall; this was a nice issue. Kurt Busiek is a good writer. His Superman: Secret Identity is one Superman (or real life one) that I love the most. This issue is part of an arc so let's see what's in some for later.

RATING: 7.5/10

[Stealth_Prime]

Hey....

Its all good as long as during his Clark time, he had time for he and Lois to conceive....

It's inevitable....Clark's powered down for the whole year....
I'll use my entire savings to buy multiple copies to get the issue when Lois says, "Clark, you're a father."
Why not, I got 25 copies of those two getting married.

I'm what you call a continuity freak. I love it when they went from strangers-competitors-friends-lovers-husband and wife.

The Worlds Finest Team!!!!

[Spike_x1]

Hey....

Its all good as long as during his Clark time, he had time for he and Lois to conceive....

It's inevitable....Clark's powered down for the whole year....
I'll use my entire savings to buy multiple copies to get the issue when Lois says, "Clark, you're a father."
Why not, I got 25 copies of those two getting married.

I'm what you call a continuity freak. I love it when they went from strangers-competitors-friends-lovers-husband and wife.

The Worlds Finest Team!!!!How does the fact that Clark was powered down have anything to do with his ability to conceive a child with Lois? :confused:

[Darthphere]

Hey....

Its all good as long as during his Clark time, he had time for he and Lois to conceive....

It's inevitable....Clark's powered down for the whole year....
I'll use my entire savings to buy multiple copies to get the issue when Lois says, "Clark, you're a father."
Why not, I got 25 copies of those two getting married.

I'm what you call a continuity freak. I love it when they went from strangers-competitors-friends-lovers-husband and wife.

The Worlds Finest Team!!!!


Thanks for contributing to the the big comics market crash.:up:

[sethcohen]

Hey....

Its all good as long as during his Clark time, he had time for he and Lois to conceive....

It's inevitable....Clark's powered down for the whole year....
I'll use my entire savings to buy multiple copies to get the issue when Lois says, "Clark, you're a father."
Why not, I got 25 copies of those two getting married.

I'm what you call a continuity freak. I love it when they went from strangers-competitors-friends-lovers-husband and wife.

The Worlds Finest Team!!!!

not to be a ********, but slam your head in a car door for perpetuating the immensley lame and completely stupid theory that they cant have sex started by superman ii (i just cant escape that crappy movie can i? thanks singer!) look, it was funny in mallrats, but if you really think about it, its preposterous and stupid... think about it, clark walks around day in day out not breaking ANYTHING... he sneezes, does he blow jimmy to alaska? NO. he coughs, does he put perry through a wall? NO. when he blinks, does he knock a computer off his desk? NO. all are involuntary actions, so why on gods green earth would he, in finishing "the act" blow a hole through lois? he wouldnt... its a stupid copout from a poor writer... thats right i called mario puzzo a poor writer... watch the godfather part iii... pay attention to ANYTHING he did that isnt godfather i or ii... i assure you its all pure garbage...

[Darthphere]

The baby when finally conceived would be protected from the yellow sun radiation by Lois Lane's womb. Therefore, no superpwered baby until they take him out for a sun bath.

[yenaled]

As Kurt Busiek said "If they couldn't have sex, do you seriously think they would be happily married. Just accept it and don't dwell on it."

[sethcohen]

The baby when finally conceived would be protected from the yellow sun radiation by Lois Lane's womb. Therefore, no superpwered baby until they take him out for a sun bath.
or puberty... im not sure when clark got his abilities post IC, but most really didnt manefest until his teen years according to MoS right?

and does this mean you agree with me?

[Darthphere]

Im pretty sure MOS isnt even in continuity anymore and im pretty sure were going to have a new SUpermna origin which involves him lifting up trucks like in the movies.

[sethcohen]

why must people suckle on the teet of the donner movies so much? i like richard donner... i like him alot... but i loathe almost everything about his superman movies with the exception of chris reeve... blah

[Darthphere]

Well the thing is when people think Superman they think Christopher Reeve which is the Donner Superman movie. Its the one thing everyone can identify with Superman wise. The problem is, as great movies as they are, the character of Superman in the comics has changed about 20 times since then, making the movie to us comic book fans a bit dated. But since DC has decided to make everyone like they just stepped out of the Silver Age, the Donner movies are representative of that.

[sethcohen]

if i was an adult when the donner movies came out i probably would have hated them then too... ugh

[Darthphere]

Not really, it was pretty representative of the Superman of that time.

[sethcohen]

i cant convey how unfortunate i think it is that singer choose to piggyback onto all of that

[TheCorpulent1]

What's wrong with a little piggybacking every now and then?

http://www.superdickery.com/images/other/216_4_007.jpg

[sethcohen]

this is how gay rumors get started...

[TheCorpulent1]

Dude, the gay rumors got started long before you were even born. :p

[sethcohen]

i know that! why do you think bat-girl and batwoman were created? ugh... and now we must pu up with BW return... yay!

[TheCorpulent1]

Batwoman's returning for entirely different reasons than her original creation, given that she's a lesbian this time around. She still doesn't seem interesting, though.

[sethcohen]

thats my point... she doesnt need to return... ever... it would be nice if she got killed off in 52... oh well... we can dream...

btw, i love the venture bros dude... hilarity at its finest...

[jaydawg]

Not really, it was pretty representative of the Superman of that time.
Yeah, Lex Luthor was always jumpy moron who at every chance, tried to steal land.

[Darthphere]

Yeah, Lex Luthor was always jumpy moron who at every chance, tried to steal land.


I was talking of the Superman character, not Lex Luthor. Read my post again.

[sethcohen]

ya, that bothers me the most... the obsession lex has over real estate... effing stupid...

[TheCorpulent1]

The movies have always done a good job of representing Superman. It's just everyone else in the movies that tends to suck. :o

[sethcohen]

which is why i have no interest in seeing SR

[The Leaguer]

I was talking of the Superman character, not Lex Luthor. Read my post again.
Um, I think he would know what you were talking about better than you.

[Darthphere]

Youre right.

[Stealth_Prime]

not to be a ********, but slam your head in a car door for perpetuating the immensley lame and completely stupid theory that they cant have sex started by superman ii (i just cant escape that crappy movie can i? thanks singer!) look, it was funny in mallrats, but if you really think about it, its preposterous and stupid... think about it, clark walks around day in day out not breaking ANYTHING... he sneezes, does he blow jimmy to alaska? NO. he coughs, does he put perry through a wall? NO. when he blinks, does he knock a computer off his desk? NO. all are involuntary actions, so why on gods green earth would he, in finishing "the act" blow a hole through lois? he wouldnt... its a stupid copout from a poor writer... thats right i called mario puzzo a poor writer... watch the godfather part iii... pay attention to ANYTHING he did that isnt godfather i or ii... i assure you its all pure garbage...


Well, there was always a danger to Lois should she ever be pregnant. The alien-earthling bun in the oven might allow Lois to survive for a while, but should the time come when they reach the point that they 'kick' (like all babies would), and they are under the yellow sun....
well, for those "I hate Lois" fans, they would consider that a godsend act....since they hate Lois and Superman being married. Everyone always wants them to remain how they were before, forever teased such as it was. Where they are attracted, but not together. (but i'm getting off point here)
The point is, even a half-kryptonian baby can kill Lois in the womb, since they would be absorbing the suns rays, since that's the source of Superman's powers.

[TheCorpulent1]

Or... it wouldn't be absorbing any solar radiation because the writers say it doesn't. Comic books are funny that way. :o

[sethcohen]

oh corpy! you and your "logic":rolleyes:

[Stealth_Prime]

You DO have a point Corp, regarding the unlimitless and endless possible storylines that the writers might come up with. They may have a normal delivery, and they may not....
Still, it helps to put at least one foot on the ground when writing comic book fiction to make it more believable, and if you will....realistic--but who says comics HAVE to be realistic right?

[Spike_x1]

It took Superman YEARS to absorb enough solar radiation to start showing signs of any super powers. Why does everyone assume that an unborn child would gain powers in a matter of months? :confused:

[sethcohen]

because they saw mallrats

[jaydawg]

It took Superman YEARS to absorb enough solar radiation to start showing signs of any super powers. Why does everyone assume that an unborn child would gain powers in a matter of months? :confused:
Exactly. The problem is Superman's sperm, not what happens after its inside Lois.

[The Leaguer]

What if the sperm is already solar charged, leading to a pre-charged fetus?

[onceasaint]

So Clark never got laid in college? Or did he just pull out?

If his sperm are so super charged, why bother with the condom.

Didnt he ever prove to Lana he's not always faster than a speeding bullet?

[sethcohen]

hey, what the hell do we know about kryptonia physiology anyway? how do we know the MALES dont get preggers? hmmm maybe jor-el woulda popped out lil kal thats why kryptonians created birthing matrixes... women just grit their teeth and get through it... men would find a way around it...

[onceasaint]

Jor El: "Oh screw that!!!... I'll be in my f@#!ing lab! -grumble- I aint having no baby... "

[sethcohen]

were men! we built the eiffel tower from steel and brawn... youre a woman, you have a tiny brain! its science!

[joke]

Why? Why does everyone think the baby would kill Lois when it starts kicking? Clark's powers didn't manifest until puberty, why would the baby be any different? And hell, he/she won't even be fully-kryptonian, but half-human.

[sethcohen]

because they saw mallrats

[yenaled]

Well considering the child wouldn't even be fully Kryptonian there are any number of possibilities for making the child not have any powers (at least for a while) or like Kon-El who was also half Kryptonian, have them develop very slowly.

[sethcohen]

as long as they dont cop out and conceive the child while hes powerless, i dont care if the *****er comes out of an egg like mork from ork!

[Darthphere]

Confirmed: Donner and Johns on Action.

http://www.newsarama.com/SDCC06/DC/action_D_G.html

[sethcohen]

singers comments make me barf... stop acting like its your movie *******... its a 2 hours love letter to richard donner... which is fine, if it wasnt superman... ugh

[onceasaint]

were men! we built the eiffel tower from steel and brawn... youre a woman, you have a tiny brain! its science!

Seth I didnt know you played Jazz Flute...


If Lois carrying the baby to term is a problem, why not take it out and put it in a birthing matrix thing? Even if its not in continuity from the Death of Superman and MoS origin, then Star Labs could surely cook something up.

[Darthphere]

Some pencils from Kubert and Donner and Johns run on Action Comics.

http://www.newsarama.com/SDCC06/DC/actionkubert.jpg

[onceasaint]

Superman Smash Puny Humans!!!

[Eros]

superman is really going downhill, im starting not to care. If their was a baby, i assume i would care even less.

[onceasaint]

There was a baby. It was forged by Illuminati mystics and hidden by Dr Fate and DC to prevent us from learning the truth!

[drastic_quench]

Some pencils from Kubert and Donner and Johns run on Action Comics.

http://www.newsarama.com/SDCC06/DC/actionkubert.jpg
Wow.

[Emerald Knight]

Damn...Superman looks royally miffed

[Superman \S/]

That looks awesome. :up:

[sethcohen]

just saw superman returns... unfortunately... id been avoiding it for sometime now... my nephew switched on me at the last minute, i was supposed to take him to see pirates 2... so heres what i think:
Positve:
Brandon Routh as Superman
Sam Huntington as Jimmy Olsen

Negative:
Bryan Singers lack of understanding of what kryptonite does to Superman
Singers apparent guess at who Lex Luthor is... that wasnt Lex... not silver age, not golden age, not modern age... hell not even hackman lex (which i loathe)...
Kitty Kowalski... completely unneeded character...
Pa Kent dead... never liked it... never will
Richard White... not that i didnt like him, but they created the character just so they could hurt him... sucky...
Lois Lane: Superho! thats right i said it... youve seen the movie you should be able to extrapolate my meaning... if not ill be happy to explain it to you, but bottom line not only does singer not get lois, he obviously doesnt like her... i like kate bosworth but she was all wrong for this part...
SuperJason... wow... just wow... i am not opposed to superman having a child... but not like this... even if i was so inclined to swallow that superman can only have sex when powerless (which im not) i refuse to believe the worlds biggest boyscout didnt wrap it up...
Superman leaving for 5 years... not only is it out of character, its completely irresponsible and neglegent, and it wouldnt take him 5 years to do anyway...
Superman eavesdropping on lois... hed never do that... never... hed hate himself for it...

and thats it... for now! mooohohahahaha!

[Parker]

Some pencils from Kubert and Donner and Johns run on Action Comics.

http://www.newsarama.com/SDCC06/DC/actionkubert.jpg

Anyone know what's got him so flared up?

[Anubis]

I don't know, that looks like his "somebody shot Lois" face.

[Knives122]

I don't know, that looks like his "somebody shot Lois" face.

And how many times has that happened?

[Anubis]

About half as many times as he's shown his "Lois just got thrown off a building" face.

[drastic_quench]

Anyone know what's got him so flared up?
He's storming the offices of Bryan Singer.

[Lord Blackbolt]

it looks like he broke that dudes nose. lol

[sethcohen]

He's storming the offices of Bryan Singer.
i can just hear him... its one thing to make me the worlds biggest dead beat dad, but you made lois look like a whore!

[Assassin]

but you like routh right? and the suit wasnt that bad.

Pa Kent's dead because of the donner flicks

[onceasaint]

Luthor's plan in SR made me think Singer and the writers were in a room watching the Pinky and The Brain ep where Brain wants to flood the world and buy all the real estate above the 39th floor. They must have been stoned and going "THATS IT! Thats the movie!!".

"How will we flood the world?"

"Make a new continent!"

"How??"

"I dunno... magic crystals?"

[sethcohen]

singer was a coward flat out in that he was too afraid to make his own movie... as for luthors plan? omg there are so very many things wrong there... so many... he swindled a widow on her death bed out of her money? lex is a bastard but hes above that... then he feels it prudent to torment her granddaughter by promptly pulling his wig off and handing it to her? pathetic... and its nice to know that while he was planning all of this he had time to RUN TO KINKOS AND GET STEP BY STEP MAPS made depicting his plan for mass homocide... i can just hear him at kinkos... "ummmmmm... its for a school project on global warming..." and even if he was successful, even if he eliminated superman, do you really think the nations of the world would stand for it? they would kill him and take his crystal land... he has 4 henchman and a bimbo tart with a dog... gimmie and AK47 and ILL take out lex luthor... whats he gonna defend himself with? crystal shards? ooooooo scary... eff that! eff that ess right in the A

[Darthphere]

Excellent, your training is almost complete.

[The Leaguer]

Haha, Darthie-poo has his very own pet poster.

[Darthphere]

Quiet you! Your jealousy knows no bounds.

[The Leaguer]

I'm not jealous! I have my own legions.

[Darthphere]

I'm not jealous! I have my own legions.


Your delusions will be your downfall.

[The Leaguer]

No, my delusions will be my legion's downfall. Those suckers will believe anything.

[Darthphere]

Then you will join me and my apprentice sethcohen.

[The Leaguer]

Join you in what.

[Darthphere]

Im not sure right now.

[The Leaguer]

Then find a newb and punch him in the stomach until you do. That usually helps with me.

[sethcohen]

punch a newb? sounds like fun! can i call him bryan singer while i do it?

[Ceb-Man]

I cannot wait to see what the Donner-Johns and Kubert run will be like. that art is awesome!

[Spider-Gamer]

punch a newb? sounds like fun! can i call him bryan singer while i do it?
No, we can call him Jason White. :)

[sethcohen]

screw that! i dont wanna piano dropped on me!

[Spike_x1]

http://www.newsarama.com/SDCC06/DC/actionkubert.jpg

I just hope Superman's eyes will be glowing red in the final frame.

[sethcohen]

and another thing... forget that for some bizarre reason lex thought it prudent to INVOLVE HIMSELF IN A MUSEUM HEIST (which hed never do personally, broke or not...), he had to steal kryptonite? wha? why? you mean to tell me the most brilliant criminal mind the world has ever seen (apparently he isnt in this movie, just look at his insane scheme...) wouldnt have a stockpile of kryptonite in a friggin SAFETY DEPOSIT BOX??? god even im not that stupid...

[Anubis]

Well, you gotta remember, this is just a darker version of Donner Lex. Not to be confused with comic version Lex. Best just to separate the two. Saves on the ulsuer medication.

[sethcohen]

this movie makes me wanna vomit... not for what it is, but for all that it could have been and failed to be...

[GoldenAgeHero]

^^to bad singer is doing the sequel. i hope that bombs too.

[Darthphere]

Singer says he wants to do the sequel. WB hasnt signed him to anything or even come to him with a deal.

[GoldenAgeHero]

oh thank god, i saw him talking about his plans for a superman sequel at the wizard website. should've read the complete article. good news all around.

btw are those pages finished inks or pencils? seems like adam kubert is coping the superman returns costume.

[Darthphere]

Pencils, and yeah Kubert is drawing a raised \S/

[GoldenAgeHero]

no more then the raised S, the boots and it seems he has an S on his belt buckle.

[Darthphere]

Hmmm Corp is going to be pissed.

[sethcohen]

as am i... as am i:mad:

[onceasaint]

I sense a disturbance in the comic book force...

[sethcohen]

turning to the dark side young cohen is...

[Darthphere]

From this day forth, you shall be known as Darth Cohen.

[onceasaint]

seth.. i dont know how to tell you this... but your inner monologue... it isnt inner... we can all hear you, just like in deadpool. :O

[sethcohen]

i know... it broke when my rage shorted it out while watching superman returns

[onceasaint]

I guess Superman really is faster than a speeding bullet, he couldnt pull out with Lois. How long did it take him to get dinner and flowers for Lois in that movie yet he couldnt make a run for condoms. :down

[sethcohen]

Bingo!

[onceasaint]

At least it didnt have all the bad ideas the previous scripts had from the other Superman projects... Brainiac's gay robot dog sidekick L-Ron, Brainiac fighting polar bears at the fortress, a giant spider...err.. excuse me.. Thanagarian Snare Beast... and Superman never being refered to as Kal El or wearing his suit... and lets not forget Tim Burton's Edward Scissor Hand ressurection suit... :mad:

[sethcohen]

i prefer not to focus on such trivial things as "the positive side" why do you think im a sith apprentice!

[Ben Urich]

i prefer not to focus on such trivial things as "the positive side" why do you think im a sith apprentice!

Or punctuation, for that matter. :o

[sethcohen]

the sith make their own puncutation!

[The Leaguer]

And their own words, apparently.

[onceasaint]

the sith make their own puncutation!

I heard sith also make their own fruit preserves, clothing and homes... no wait, thats the amish.

[Darthphere]

I heard sith also make their own fruit preserves, clothing and homes... no wait, thats the amish.


We make our own waffles.

[onceasaint]

Are mutiple syrups available?

And if so, can the sith provide me with cheaper car insurance and better long distance phone rates?

[Darthphere]

We have more syrups than IHOP!

[The Leaguer]

IHOP only has four.

[Darthphere]

We have 6.

[onceasaint]

This is starting to sound like the Mooninites on Aqua Teen Hunger Force

"IHOP only has four"

"We have six... million syrups, vastly superior to your primitive earth syrups :o"

[The Leaguer]

The Mooninites aren't cool enough to join our club.

[Darthphere]

Its true.

[sethcohen]

the mooninites are far inferior to the sith... the are 2 dimensional while the sith are of the 3rd dimension, making us vastly superior...

[The Leaguer]

Our club appears to us as we wish to see it. Darthie-poo sees it as the Sith. I see it as the ultra-badass Cobra Kai.

[sethcohen]

sweep the leg *****es!

[The Leaguer]

http://thewolfweb.com/photos/00388798.jpg

[Assassin]

**** that, i'm from Mieagi Dojo, we paint fences and sand floors and all types of weird ****.

[Binker]

ACTION COMICS #844
http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/6199_400x600.jpg[/URL]
Written by Geoff Johns and Richard Donner; Art and cover by Adam Kubert; Variant cover by TK

Geoff Johns (INFINITE CRISIS, FLASH) joins forces with Richard Donner (director of Superman: The Movie and Superman II) and artist extraordinaire Adam Kubert (X-Men, Ultimate X-Men) for "Last Son," the tale of a small child from the planet Krypton. Sent by his parents to Earth with powers beyond imagination, the child's future potential is limitless. Especially when Superman finds him! Don't miss this amazing comics event!

On Sale October 25, 2006

[Darthphere]

Nice cover.


And theyre adopting a kid now, yay.

[GoldenAgeHero]

at least he isnt actually supes kid. this can actually be cool. and guess what guys? thats the new conner!! lol

awesome cover. btw how the **** can there be another krypton?

[Darthphere]

except he'll probably be a baby for the next 30 years.

[GoldenAgeHero]

not really depends on the age of the kid. if thats not the case then yes, franklin richards he will be.

[Darthphere]

An emo 13 year old from Krypton, I would totally not read that.

[sethcohen]

effing bull****... what a copout...

[GoldenAgeHero]

who said he had to be emo? and how the hell is it a copout?

[sethcohen]

lets waterdown superman being the LAST OF HIS KIND some more... so stupid... kill supergirl and can this story...

[Darthphere]

When has a 13 year old not been written slightly emo in the comics?

[sethcohen]

i dont like this idea... i didnt like the idea of donner writing at all, but i kept my mouth shut and decided to give it half a chance, since mario puzo wrote the crap that is SM:TM and SMII... boy did i get proved wrong...

[GoldenAgeHero]

lets waterdown superman being the LAST OF HIS KIND some more... so stupid... kill supergirl and can this story...

yeah thats what im trying to figure out, hope this will turn out to be some kryton of earth2 or 3 or some ****,maybe that explains why there is a second earth that appears.

[sethcohen]

this has to be one of the most ill concieved ideas ever...

[GoldenAgeHero]

i dont like this idea... i didnt like the idea of donner writing at all, but i kept my mouth shut and decided to give it half a chance, since mario puzo wrote the crap that is SM:TM and SMII... boy did i get proved wrong...

its donner and geoff johns writing it. with editorial descsions. and i think its another krypton anyways.

[GoldenAgeHero]

this has to be one of the most ill concieved ideas ever...

you didnt even read an issue, stop over reacting.

[sethcohen]

i know... and i just realized this idea may top lex luthors crystal land idea in SMR

[sethcohen]

you didnt even read an issue, stop over reacting.
overreacting is what i do... i excel at it, so why not do it?

[GoldenAgeHero]

i know... and i just realized this idea may top lex luthors crystal land idea in SMR

if it was singer writing the comics. i'd agree.

[sethcohen]

if it was singer writing the comics. i'd agree.
atleast hes over at marvel running amok on x-men... hahah he could possibly screw that up anymore that its been screwed up!

[Darthphere]

Meh, for all we know the kid wont even make it past the arc....

[sethcohen]

Meh, for all we know the kid wont even make it past the arc....
we can all hope, right? just a lame gimmick like cir-el...

[The Leaguer]

Christ, it's f***ing raining Kryptonians.

Geoff Johns needs to take a vacation to get his s*** in order.

[Darthphere]

Christ, it's f***ing raining Kryptonians.

Geoff Johns needs to take a vacation to get his s*** in order.


:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[Darthphere]

Arent the two Kryptonians from Superman 2 supposed to show up too?

[The Leaguer]

Why not? I have a fever, and the only prescription is more Kryptonians.

[sethcohen]

Arent the two Kryptonians from Superman 2 supposed to show up too?
ya we need that just like we need zod to show up in the SMR sequel... which im sure singer will do just to be just like donner!

[Mee]

ACTION COMICS #844
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Written by Geoff Johns and Richard Donner; Art and cover by Adam Kubert; Variant cover by TK

Geoff Johns (INFINITE CRISIS, FLASH) joins forces with Richard Donner (director of Superman: The Movie and Superman II) and artist extraordinaire Adam Kubert (X-Men, Ultimate X-Men) for "Last Son," the tale of a small child from the planet Krypton. Sent by his parents to Earth with powers beyond imagination, the child's future potential is limitless. Especially when Superman finds him! Don't miss this amazing comics event!

On Sale October 25, 2006
New Superboy I guess. Meh.

[GyLocke]

ya we need that just like we need zod to show up in the SMR sequel... which im sure singer will do just to be just like donner!

After SR, the only "showing up" Singer will do, will be in the wellfare office, don't worry.

What if the kid is Zod? They said it will be different.

[sethcohen]

After SR, the only "showing up" Singer will do, will be in the wellfare office, don't worry.

What if the kid is Zod? They said it will be different.

welfare? why? i hated the moive but it was a success...

[Darthphere]

welfare? why? i hated the moive but it was a success...


A mild success.

[GyLocke]

I don't think it made a profit yet. I'll look it up.

[sethcohen]

A mild success.
ya... that makes me smile... it got bumped by pirates of the caribbean... hahaha and thats still on top... hmmm did singer make a boo boo?

[Green Lantern]

Jesus Seth, can you not b**ch about anything? This sucks, this sucks, this sucks... Thats the definition of emo man...

[sethcohen]

i did praise brandon routh as superman and sam huntington as jimmy olsen... i thought both were outstanding and made the movie watchable to me... i love the new WW so far... i love teen titans... im enjoying robin... im likeing the current direction of batman and superman so far... i like alot of things... but somethings get me so mad i cant let em go! like i told GAH, overreacting is what i do!

[Green Lantern]

But do you really need to tell us every five minutes "I HATE SINGER!!! I HATE DONNER!"

[The Leaguer]

Jesus Seth, can you not b**ch about anything? This sucks, this sucks, this sucks... Thats the definition of emo man...
It's pretty sad how little meaning the term "emo" has any more. It's becoming the new "love" and is becoming meaningless.

[sethcohen]

ya! im like so not emo... my parents just dont understand me... like... eyeliner is my life and my diary is my best friend... you arent cool if you havent tried to kill yourself in like a week... my life is a never ending abyss of pain and sorrow...
check out the emo song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHTAT_UPm18)!

[Darthphere]

But do you really need to tell us every five minutes "I HATE SINGER!!! I HATE DONNER!"


Complaining about complaining is fun.

[sethcohen]

But do you really need to tell us every five minutes "I HATE SINGER!!! I HATE DONNER!"
eh... ill take a cheap shot when i can hahahha
but in all seriousness, singer WAS one of my favorite directors until this movie... and i love richard donner's other work and appreciated that he actually TONED DOWN the camp in SM:TM & SMII, which is why i reserved judgement when i learned he was writing a story arc... but now im down right scared after hearing what his arc is about... and for the record, i say i hate singer every 5 minutes... not donner...

[sethcohen]

Complaining about complaining is fun.
indeed! is like screwing while watching porn!

[Vic Von Doom]

ya... that makes me smile... it got bumped by pirates of the caribbean... hahaha and thats still on top... hmmm did singer make a boo boo?

I think it was just unfortunate that Superman had to come out the week before Pirates. That was why they moved it to a Wednesday release, just to get two more days in because they knew Pirates was going to destroy the box office. X-Men 3 did over 100 mil opening weekend and is so far about 50 mil over Superman overall, but I think even people who weren't crazy over Superman would still agree it was way better than X3.

[sethcohen]

I think it was just unfortunate that Superman had to come out the week before Pirates. That was why they moved it to a Wednesday release, just to get two more days in because they knew Pirates was going to destroy the box office. X-Men 3 did over 100 mil opening weekend and is so far about 50 mil over Superman overall, but I think even people who weren't crazy over Superman would still agree it was way better than X3.

i dont... i think it was a better movie AND it gave people what they wanted... the right mix of thrills, action, suspense comedy and romance... SR definately got bogged down by the whole "lois moved on, but im going to steal her back because even though im a role model for everyone and i always do the right thing, im still a selfish dick... thats why i hightailed it outta here to the remanants of a destroyed planet and didnt say bye" sublot, and poor characterization... but thats just my opinion...

[GoldenAgeHero]

you guys need to stop blaming POTC2 for supes mediocre-suck fest. people just we'rent interested in the film, if they were people wouldve seen it regardless if POTC2 was going to come out. SR just did'nt live up to expectations and sucked.

[Darthphere]

i dont... i think it was a better movie AND it gave people what they wanted... the right mix of thrills, action, suspense comedy and romance... SR definately got bogged down by the whole "lois moved on, but im going to steal her back because even though im a role model for everyone and i always do the right thing, im still a selfish dick... thats why i hightailed it outta here to the remanants of a destroyed planet and didnt say bye" sublot, and poor characterization... but thats just my opinion...


Yeah, I gotta stop you there, it was never his intention to steal her back, so ***** about the right things in the movie.

[sethcohen]

you think he was trying to grab a bite to eat as clark for fun? ya right... you think he gave her that interview and took her on a flight around metroplis because hes a nice guy? c'mon...

[Darthphere]

you think he was trying to grab a bite to eat as clark for fun? ya right... you think he gave her that interview and took her on a flight around metroplis because hes a nice guy? c'mon...


Stop being a dumbass. He loves her but he knows thats she with Richard, she moved on. Hes not going to make the move. If she decides to go back to Supes, its because she wants to, not because he stole her away. As I said before, there are plenty of things to ***** about the movie, him being a stalker, the kid, Lois Lane being a crappy lois lane, Lex Luthor's dumbass scheme. Complain about the right things.

[sethcohen]

ive already complained about those things though! lol
and sorry, if you have feelings for your ex and you think shes still got em for you even though shes with someone else, you dont hang around for the fun of it, you do it because youre hoping shell leave him for you... duh

[Darthphere]

ive already complained about those things though! lol
and sorry, if you have feelings for your ex and you think shes still got em for you even though shes with someone else, you dont hang around for the fun of it, you do it because youre hoping shell leave him for you... duh


Hes not hanging around for her sake though, I think he has to with the fact they had a kid together.

[sethcohen]

which he didnt know until the end of the movie...

[sethcohen]

oops! multipost!

[Darthphere]

Ummm yeah, the point is that remember that emo flight scene, its because he knew he wasnt getting any Lois Lane asshots in the next issue of Action, he ddint try to steal her back man go on complaining about the other actual things wrong with the movie.

[sethcohen]

he wasnt overtly trying... but its the impression i got... nonetheless, lex sucked in that movie!

[Binker]

ACTION COMICS #841

PLOT:
Ever since Superman retuend after a year, people are wondering if he is the real Superman. Referencing the past like the 4 Supermen from "The Death and Life of Superman" as examples, Superman begins a tough time trying to convince the un-convinced even when ana lien invader arrives.

REVIEW:
I'll start this by saying: I was debating about getting this issue. The storyline, I felt, should've been told in "Up, Up & Away" and right now its little too late in a degree. But in the end, it turned out to be good. I mean I liked the issue. It was just the plot should've been part of the previous arc. So it could've been titled "Up, Up & Away Part 9: Back in Action".

The editor says that Firestorm in this issue is before #26, don't need to talk about that. And Nightwing and Superman are on good terms so this is before Outsiders OYL. And the Teen Titans here could be after #37. And its obivious, this is before the arc in Superman that started in #654. So this storyline is after Superman's return and now it ties up his returned status with other superheroes, the Metropolis citizens, and the government.

As for the story itself, this was pretty common storyline, but in a positive light. The medicore part was that there is an alien looking at people, places and things from earth and wants to sell it to the highest bidders and finds Superman as the great prize. This, as I see it, is a subplot. The main plot, and what saved this book, was Superman trying to prove to the world he is the real deal.

The alien, as I said, is pretty much like the "been there, done that" feeling. At least from me. He's human looking with his beard and hair looking like tatoos (reminding me of the Riddler from TB) and his eyes are green colored and insect like. And he has robots to help him, everyone needs robots, y'know.

The people who aren't convinced Superman is real is seen here and you wouldn't be against them if the Man of Steel returned after a year long absence. We've seen it before, as the readers, when heroes die and come back or leave, hopign never tor eturn, and then "SURPRISE" there he is again. Here, the cops question to fire their weapons at an enemy in the fear if they kill a "fake" Supes. People outside hold our signs protesting for the truth on Superman, and the government at least hopes its Superman for real because his ID was expired and, Clark mentiones the gov't wants to experiment on him. Until they know for sure, an alien is an alien to them no matter if one wears the big "S".

Overall, this was pretty good. Alien is same old, samwe old. But I feel the Superman's side of things and the people around and on him were very interesting. Thats what saved the book. I still feel though, it should been part of the "Up, Up & Away" arc.

RATING: 7/10

[Mister J]

A decent ish. This public distrust (outside of Metropolisthing could play out to be OK, especially with some government intervention. I don't know to make of The Auctioneer yet, but I like the tease they've set up. Nice cameos by Firestorm and the Titans and good seeing their reactions to Supes.

[supes_el]

Alright issue. It got better at the end when we started seeing familiar faces. Glad to see Titans get some action.

7/10

[TheCorpulent1]

I enjoyed the issue a lot. It's always nice to see a comic book tackle something realistic like the public's perception.

[The Leaguer]

Reading this issue was physically painful. Every page was worse than the previous. Normally, I would say I can't wait for the next creative team to come on, but I don't think Johns and Donner could do any better.

[onceasaint]

Since when are Nightwing's batarang/wingdings/whateveryacallits voice commanded? and polarized?

[The Leaguer]

Ever since the Teen Titans started flying around on a giant T and Nightwing took up the habit of pointing directional mics at people as they fly away.

[onceasaint]

Man, im behind on the times... :(

[Assassin]

New Superboy I guess. Meh.


or ZOD:O

[sethcohen]

or ZOD:O
or SUCK!

[Darthphere]

Ever since the Teen Titans started flying around on a giant T and Nightwing took up the habit of pointing directional mics at people as they fly away.


****, thats all canon *****.

[The Leaguer]

It is, now. F*** you, Busiek.

[Darthphere]

Flying T was gangsta, ho.

[The Leaguer]

It would have been if it had spinna's, but there weren't any tires. F*** that.

[Darthphere]

Seriously, if Johns starts using that in Teen Titans, ill drop the book.

[The Leaguer]

You know he is. And then he's going to have Ravager start all of her sentences with, "My enhanced senses tell me..."

[Darthphere]

Awesome!

[drastic_quench]

Busiek's solid writer. Hell in just a few panels of Action he wrote Nightwing more on the ball than in Outsiders or his own title. He was pulling off some Bat-god level tech in a clinch. It didn't happen to work, but he wasn't screaming, "YOU'RE A META-HUMAN!!!"

[Superman \S/]

Did anyone fins the solict for Action Comics in October? They never showed it.....

-\S/

[regwec]

Since Infinate Crisis, Superman has not been good, or bad. Just boring. And why must we have an awkward three dimensional "S" symbol, as featured in the forgettable film?

To think that the Superman titles were amongst the best a few months ago.

[The Leaguer]

I blame Busiek and Johns. I'm so glad that that first OYL arc is over and the new writing teams are coming on to replace them.

Oh, wait...

[Darthphere]

Lol! :woot:

[Superman \S/]

I can't wait for the Donner/Johns team on Action Comics. :super:

[The Leaguer]

Why, so it can suck?

[Superman \S/]

BTW in Superman 654, when Clark is at the DP Perry hands him a file about Lana Lang saying she's a new CEO of LexCorp. Did anyone notive the ring on her finger? Could it mean that someone proposed to her? And who do you guys think is "Subket 17?" I think it's Doomsday, though it looked like Darkseid.

[Darthphere]

I hope we see the flying T again.

[The Leaguer]

Keep your eye on Superman!!!

[Superman \S/]

I hope we see the flying T again.

That was cool that the Titans were on the flying T. :up:

[The Leaguer]

It was stupid. What the f*** is the T supposed to mean.

[Darthphere]

That was cool that the Titans were on the flying T. :up:


You missed the sarcasm.

[Superman \S/]

You missed the sarcasm.

I was playing along with the sarcasm. :dry:

[regwec]

So, of four students at an anonymous Smallville school, 50% have become President of the United States, 50% have been CEO of the world's largest company, and 25% is Superman.

The DCU seems to be a small world.

[GoldenAgeHero]

superman 655 was a cool issue. pacheos art was grat and his colorists make it shine. lana lang was teaming hott int his issue, this is a chick superman should be with, she has more charisma to her persona. the plot involing the sorcerist seems pretty cool, like to seehow this intertines with the present. good issue all around. i also liked digging into clarks intelligence increase...microdots. cool idea there

8/10

[Lord Blackbolt]

Isn't Arion Aquaman's daddy or something....whoever he is...he's a pimp. I like him.

[Darthphere]

The issue was good, good to see some new villains pop up.

[Mister J]

This ish was pretty good. Between CEO Lana, the Kahzakhstan stuff and Arion, it sets up a nice arc.

[Darthphere]

Lana is hot. :( Hit it Clark, HIT IT!

[Mister J]

There were no Lana ass shots. She's got to step it up if she wants to be flown around the city. :super: :up:

[Spider-Man™]

I'm glad to see Lana again though. Great issue overall. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Isn't Arion Aquaman's daddy or something....whoever he is...he's a pimp. I like him.
Arion's an ancient Atlantean, from back when Atlantis was more in touch with its magic roots and filled with sorcerers. He was basically the king sorcerer of the bunch. He was also thought to be Power Girl's grandfather or something post-Crisis, but Johns shot that down with the revelation that Power Girl's "super-secret origin" was really that she was just the same as she had been pre-Crisis. I don't think Arion has any connection to Aquaman beyond the shared Atlantean heritage, though.

How'd Arion show up in this issue of Superman? Last I heard, he was dead and his spirit was at rest after Power Girl freed him from captivity on Gemworld. I didn't buy this issue of Superman because I needed to save money and I figured Action Comics was better, but I may pick it up after all if Arion's in it.

[sethcohen]

he is in the past and he senses what is going on in the issue and decides that since he is dead in the future, he should just travel there and take care of it...

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, that was Arion? I thought that was an earlier version of Jason Blood or something.

[sethcohen]

nope... says it on the first page... i love how he keeps calling everyone morons and idiots...

[The Caped Knight]

Lana is hot. :( Hit it Clark, HIT IT!

That is never going to, and you know that . Kent's Devoted to Lane .:supes: she's his Superwoman.

Althought I have to admit in this issue lana was smooking hot .

[Darthphere]

Hell yeah. Hit it Clark! Nobody has to know.

[Spider-Man™]

^ Lol!

[Ultimate_Superman]

Here you guys go
(look at the belt)

http://www.newsarama.com/SDCC06/DC/actionkubert.jpg

[Mister J]

^ Moral of the story: Keep your hands and eyes off Lois' ass. :o :(

[Ultimate_Superman]

^^LOL :up:

[The Caped Knight]

^ Moral of the story: Keep your hands and eyes off Lois' ass.

lol, Otherwise her husband/SUPERMAN is going to beat the living crap out of you .

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm disappointed in Kubert for incorporating movie filth into the comics. :(

[Ultimate_Superman]

The only thing missing now is the \S/ on the boots.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I'm disappointed in Kubert for incorporating movie filth into the comics. :(And the movie isn't filth.:mad:

[Spike_x1]

I'm disappointed in Kubert for incorporating movie filth into the comics. :(Damn, I never noticed that before. :( :down

[Hush]

Since I didnt buy the book can we get scnas of Lana please???

[Darthphere]

I'm disappointed in Kubert for incorporating movie filth into the comics. :(


Ditto.

[TheCorpulent1]

And the movie isn't filth.:mad:
It's decent as a movie. But when it invades the comics, it's absolutely filth. The filthiest kind of filth. It's the filth that other filth talks about behind its filthy back.

[Bullseye]

Will this thread also serve as a haven for discussion for the upcoming run on Action Comics written by Johns & Donner and drawn by Adam Kubert? Because once Action Comics #844 arrives, which will be huge, I would hope we would have a thread to discuss the comic.

[Super_Child]

Will this thread also serve as a haven for discussion for the upcoming run on Action Comics written by Johns & Donner and drawn by Adam Kubert? Because once Action Comics #844 arrives, which will be huge, I would hope we would have a thread to discuss the comic.

Make An Action Comics Disscussion thread.

[Bullseye]

The Superman OYL Thread seems to be ample to handle discussion about Action Comics as well as other Superman titles.

[Anubis]

Yeah sure, why not. It's all Superman after all. So what do you want to discuss about Action anyway?

[Hush]

I dont want to buy Action but I feel that I will be forced to because Kubert and Johns are the names on the book.

[Bullseye]

I think it will be well worth to buy Action Comics once Johns, Donner and Kubert are on the book. I rarely ever buy the comic but this upcoming run has changed my mind about that.

[Eddie Brock]

And the movie isn't filth.:mad:
damn straight

[Darthphere]

Busiek and Woods are a much bigger draw fro me than Johns and Kubert.

[sethcohen]

Busiek and Woods are a much bigger draw fro me than Johns and Kubert.
neither is Donner & Johns... Kubert i could have gone either way on, but then he had to use the movie costume...

[Darthphere]

Ok, I found this on DCcomics.com. Its supposedly DC Nation #25. I find it both intriguing and scary. Judge for yourself.

http://www.dccomics.com/media/news/6397_a_full.jpg

[Darthphere]

People c'mon.

[Assassin]

i'm droping superman, sorry Pachieo, (sp?) i dont like my superman asian

[Assassin]

oh, and i dont give a rats ass about subjekt 17

[The Caped Knight]

Ok, I found this on DCcomics.com. Its supposedly DC Nation #25. I find it both intriguing and scary. Judge for yourself.

http://www.dccomics.com/media/news/6397_a_full.jpg

A kid with super strenght . :eek:

[Assassin]

wasnt that from a few weeks ago?

[The Caped Knight]

The kid looks like Jason Lane from SR .

[Darthphere]

wasnt that from a few weeks ago?


I dont think so.

[Spike_x1]

The kid looks like Jason Lane from SR .With the way DC is jumping at every chance they can to invade Superman's mythos with movie crap lately, I wouldn't be surprised one damn bit if it was Jason.