SILVER SURFER/ Lawrence Fishburne, Doug Jones Discussion Thread

[Spider-Fan]

Oh yeah, I remember the kittens, lol. That was hysterical.

Man, many were sacrificed last year, but I hear they made a good soup.

[dark_b]

so it was wrong what i posted but nothings wrong wit this spam.

[Spider-Fan]

Man, don't be grumpy cause you got no soup!

J/k...the thing about your post was we have had that Doug Jones argument like almost everyday for almost 2 years.

[Kelly]

Man, don't be grumpy cause you got no soup!

J/k...the thing about your post was we have had that Doug Jones argument like almost everyday for almost 2 years.

Actually its only been months....just seems like 2 years....:o

[Spider-Fan]

Actually its only been months....just seems like 2 years....:o

Yes it has felt about that long.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Kel, should I post now what I've heard? LOL :p

[Kelly]

Kel, should I post now what I've heard? LOL :p


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................hang on..................



:ninja:



ok go ahead......

[Lightning Strykez!]

Hey no fair. Let me put mine on too....

:ninja:


Okay, just got some interesting information from two friends of mine here (and I trust them implicitly). The film's opening main title sequence lists Lawrence Fishburne for character credit...with no mention of Doug Jones. Now, these fans didn't specify if the credit is for "the voice" only (which I'm assuming) or not--and I didn't press the matter (because they are busy covering the London Press junket).

But I thought that was interesting.

[Spider-Fan]

That will cause problems in this thread.

LET THE UPROAR BEGIN!!!

[Iron Maiden]

Batten down the hatches! Women and children first! Spare the rum!

[Kelly]

Batten down the hatches! Women and children first! Spare the rum!

Grabs a 2-litre of Coke as well......

[Spider-Fan]

Batten down the hatches! Women and children first! Spare the rum!

Where's the rum? WHY IS THE RUM GONE!!!

[Lightning Strykez!]

Spare the rum!

*drinks all the rum*

Bracing for impact!

[Lightning Strykez!]

Where's the rum? WHY IS THE RUM GONE!!!

*points to abs*

It's there. Sorry. But it was dayum good!

[Hellmistress]

Hey no fair. Let me put mine on too....

:ninja:


Okay, just got some interesting information from two friends of mine here (and I trust them implicitly). The film's opening main title sequence lists Lawrence Fishburne for character credit...with no mention of Doug Jones. Now, these fans didn't specify if the credit is for "the voice" only (which I'm assuming) or not--and I didn't press the matter (because they are busy covering the London Press junket).

But I thought that was interesting.

Huh.

Why doesn't that surprise me?

Pass the good malt Scotch, will ya?

HM

[Spider-Fan]

*points to abs*

It's there. Sorry. But it was dayum good!

*Looks at abs*

You wouldn't happen to have a sharp, metal straw, would you?

[Lightning Strykez!]

^

I do. But I'm not giving it to you. :csad:

[Spider-Fan]

^

I do. But I'm not giving it to you. :csad:

Why not? I only need it for a few seconds.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Because I treasure my abs. Besides, it's been a long time since someone drank a shot from my navel. LOL :p

[fantastic fifth]

Because I treasure my abs. Besides, it's been a long time since someone drank a shot from my navel. LOL :p

Ummm...ewww

[Lightning Strykez!]

You had to be there to see it. LOL

[fantastic fifth]

You had to be there to see it. LOL

I miss all the good stuff. :wow:

[Spider-Fan]

I miss all the good stuff. :wow:

Me too, just like the rum!

[Lightning Strykez!]

*points to abs*



































:D

[Noir]

any new clips?

[Lightning Strykez!]

any new clips?

Not yet. This is release week, so most likely they aren't gonna release anything else.

[TheShadowCat]

Hey no fair. Let me put mine on too....

:ninja:


Okay, just got some interesting information from two friends of mine here (and I trust them implicitly). The film's opening main title sequence lists Lawrence Fishburne for character credit...with no mention of Doug Jones. Now, these fans didn't specify if the credit is for "the voice" only (which I'm assuming) or not--and I didn't press the matter (because they are busy covering the London Press junket).

But I thought that was interesting.

Figures.

Pass the tequila.

I'm making margarettas!

>^..^<

[TheShadowCat]

It's Begun...



http://pun.org/josh/archives/hugging-kittens.jpg
The first person to harm a hair on their cute furry heads gets evicerated.:cmad::cmad::cmad:

You don't want to know what I'll do to the second person.

>^..^<

[Antonello Blueberry]

Margaritas.
But Doug is still listed in the end titles as the Surfer, don't worry.

[TheShadowCat]

Margaritas.
But Doug is still listed in the end titles as the Surfer, don't worry.

*hands Antonello a margarita*

I believe it's in his contract that they have to credit him somewhere. I wasn't expecting him to be credited in the title sequence, though it would have been nice. So, how far down was his credit?

>^..^<

[Hellmistress]

*hands Antonello a margarita*

I believe it's in his contract that they have to credit him somewhere. I wasn't expecting him to be credited in the title sequence, though it would have been nice. So, how far down was his credit?

>^..^<

All that salt's bad for my blood pressure. I'll stick to a pure single malt, if you don't mind. Kittens ... nice. Very tasty in a curry.

HM

[TheShadowCat]

All that salt's bad for my blood pressure. I'll stick to a pure single malt, if you don't mind. Kittens ... nice. Very tasty in a curry.

HM
*adds salt to HM's Scotch*

>^..^<

[hellfire]

silver surfer is probably the only reason for me wanting to see the movie

[dark_b]

1. normal box
2.shiny box
3.silver box
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7085/iopui9ouiouijw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

now explain me how would you make box 1 look like box 3.
a lot of people are talking about that shiny reflection. there is no shiny. its everything. silver reflects everything.

so how i think weta did SS? they made the CGI SS: they used the SS wireframe and tracked the movement of doug. then they replaced the real doug with the digital silver surfer.

[Hellmistress]

1. normal box
2.shiny box
3.silver box
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7085/iopui9ouiouijw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

now explain me how would you make box 1 look like box 3.
a lot of people are talking about that shiny reflection. there is no shiny. its everything. silver reflects everything.

so how i think weta did SS? they made the CGI SS: they used the SS wireframe and tracked the movement of doug. then they replaced the real doug with the digital silver surfer.

Are you a plant from WETA? :D

HM

[TheShadowCat]

1. normal box
2.shiny box
3.silver box
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7085/iopui9ouiouijw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

now explain me how would you make box 1 look like box 3.
a lot of people are talking about that shiny reflection. there is no shiny. its everything. silver reflects everything.

so how i think weta did SS? they made the CGI SS: they used the SS wireframe and tracked the movement of doug. then they replaced the real doug with the digital silver surfer.

Will you drop it already? I don't know why you refuse to believe that WETA made DOUG bright and shiney, but that's what they did. They didn't create a CGI character.

What were the exacts steps? I don't know. I don't work for WETA, but I imagine they have a really nifty computer program that changes the gray suit to silver and then adds highlights, shadows and reflections. Now give it a REST!

>^..^<

[Bishop2]

I personally believe that they did the same thing they did with Andy Serkis or Bill Nighy - they used motion capture to copy his movements all the way down to his mouth and rendered the character using that detail. No, I do not believe that they just filmed Doug Jones in front of green screen and made him silver later, but who really cares? Honestly? WHO CARES?

[Lightning Strykez!]

dark_b:

Bring it to an end please.

Thanks.

[TheShadowCat]

I personally believe that they did the same thing they did with Andy Serkis or Bill Nighy - they used motion capture to copy his movements all the way down to his mouth and rendered the character using that detail. No, I do not believe that they just filmed Doug Jones in front of green screen and made him silver later, but who really cares? Honestly? WHO CARES?
Believe what you want, but Doug's never done motion capture for any role he's ever played.

>^..^<

[Hellmistress]

I personally believe that they did the same thing they did with Andy Serkis or Bill Nighy - they used motion capture to copy his movements all the way down to his mouth and rendered the character using that detail. No, I do not believe that they just filmed Doug Jones in front of green screen and made him silver later, but who really cares? Honestly? WHO CARES?

No reference capture. No motion capture. No green screen. No silly leotard. Just Doug. Prosthetic suit by Spectral Motion. CG Enhancement by WETA. That's IT.

Let's just be done with this, please. I have a headache ...

HM

[Spider-Fan]

Why don't we talk potential spin-off ideas instead?

[Advanced Dark]

No reference capture. No motion capture. No green screen. No silly leotard. Just Doug. Prosthetic suit by Spectral Motion. CG Enhancement by WETA. That's IT.

Let's just be done with this, please. I have a headache ...

HM

So he wore a green leotard in front of a blue screen? ;)

[Hellmistress]

So he wore a green leotard in front of a blue screen? ;)

You're asking to be sent to bed without any supper, my lad. Tsk. :D

I'd be VERY happy to talk about any potential spin-offs.

HM

[Lightning Strykez!]

Why don't we talk potential spin-off ideas instead?

Yes, let's.

[Advanced Dark]

^ I'm sure a Silver Surfer solo film is coming down the line sometime before 2012. That's a difficult story to sell to the masses but it could be awesome. They really need a different director for that however I"m fine with Story for part 3 of this franchise.

[Spider-Fan]

While I think the next one will likely be an origin story, here is an idea I came up with for a non-origin Surfer movie (from the Tim Story exclusive thread...copy and pasted in its original wording!!!):

If I were doing a non-origin Surfer movie, I would take aspects of the Rebirth of Thanos, The Life of Captain Marvel, and the Infinity Gauntlet, and combine them into one story.

The Surfer lands on a distant planet, and like the Rebirth of Thanos, decides to sleep. In his sleep, he sees Mistress Death ressurect a strange being known as Thanos of Titan. The Surfer awakens, and is convinced this was a dream, until Thanos meets with the Surfer and tells the Surfer of why he was brought back: to restore the cosmic balance, and eliminate half the world's population. Thanos, knowing the Surfer is the only one who can stop him, tries to get the Surfer to join him and reason with him. The Surfer declines (Thanos plays a sick joke on the Surfer ala the Rebirth of Thanos), and goes away. To learn more about Thanos, he goes to the distant world of Titan. There, he learns more about Thanos, how he conquered all of Titan, and how the Titans banded together and killed him. Back to Thanos plan, he plans to gain godhood by obtaining the Cosmic Cube. This would give him the power he needs to complete his task, and win Mistress Death's heart. Eventually, Thanos obtains the Cube, merges himself with it, and the Surfer is lost on how to fight a god. He gets advice from the one known as The Watcher. He decribes his purpose to the Surfer, and how he can only give him a clue on how to beat Thanos (anymore would be interfernece). Thanos, much like the Infinty Gauntlet, becomes weary of his godhood when Mistress Death continues to not speak to him. He does eliminate half the world, like in the Infinity Gauntlet. The Surfer goes to battle Thanos, who in an attempt to impress Mistress Death, gives the Surfer a small percent chance of victory. During the battle, the Surfer realizes that the cube (which Thanos discarded earlier claiming it to be useless as he absorbed its power) is the key. The Surfer grabs the cube, and through force of will, becomes its master. He then sets things back to the way they were before Thanos' ressurection. He then destroys the Cube, and Mistress Death decides not to ressurect Thanos.

That would be my movie (as a fan of Starlin's work, I would love it). I think this would also hit home with the Surfer, as he was a hand in the deaths of many accross the stars, and now is his chance to stop so many from dying.

EDIT- I will continue to improve this concept, but I this would be either my follow up to the origin (meaning movie #2), or my way of going into the Surfer's own stories. This movie would probably be longer than 2hr, but it should. I would want about X2 length for this idea.

[Advanced Dark]

I think Infinity Gauntlet storyline on that scale would be awesome in an all digitial/cgi film however not like Shrek. More like a combo of that technology and what they did with SS in this film. It's the only way to go.

[Spider-Fan]

I think Infinity Gauntlet storyline on that scale would be awesome in an all digitial/cgi film however not like Shrek. More like a combo of that technology and what they did with SS in this film. It's the only way to go.

For the sake of time, I made the Infinity Gems into the Cosmic Cube, with the same origin as the gems, however (I love the gems origin). It would take away too much focus from the Surfer to have Thanos find all 6 gems.

All the beings in the universe look non-human (for the most part), so they have an opporunity to make a wonderful universe. I'd like it to be done more like a mix of FF2 (with the Surfer and Thanos), and Star Wars OT with make-up for the other aliens.

Also, to incorporate the Nihilists, Thanos would have used them in his conquest of Titan before they usurped him.

[dark_b]

Will you drop it already? I don't know why you refuse to believe that WETA made DOUG bright and shiney, but that's what they did. They didn't create a CGI character.

What were the exacts steps? I don't know. I don't work for WETA, but I imagine they have a really nifty computer program that changes the gray suit to silver and then adds highlights, shadows and reflections. Now give it a REST!

>^..^<SILVER HAS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SHADOWS. :o

[dark_b]

dark_b:

Bring it to an end please.

Thanks.will do :up::cool:

[Advanced Dark]

FYI Silver is reflective. That's why he looks darker when in space. You'll notice in the scene where he's in space his back is darker as it's reflecting space. If there's a shadow...silver will reflect the shadow just like a mirror. There is no question about what HM and SCat say....it's fact.

[dark_b]

FYI Silver is reflective. That's why he looks darker when in space. You'll notice in the scene where he's in space his back is darker as it's reflecting space. If there's a shadow...silver will reflect the shadow just like a mirror. There is no question about what HM and SCat say....it's fact.agree.
silver surfer has no shadows on him. if you see something dark on him its because of the enviorment.

he reflects everything.


Hellmistress i am really sorry. i now know that SS is not CGI. and this pic is PROOF :ninja:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1413/542157645_855fa4082e_o.jpg

[dark_b]

Yeah, I want to see Tim Story direct the third film because with the success the third will be, I can see him having even more freedom with longer running time, more action, more character development, and I'm sure Jessica Alba will be more comfortable in her role as Sue Storm.i agree.
if we will ahve lucky we might get a 100 minute movie :wow:

sarcasm out :wow:

[coreymb16]

i agree.
if we will ahve lucky we might get a 100 minute movie :wow:

sarcasm out :wow:lol.:woot:

[dark_b]

lol.:woot::cwink:

a longer movie is a must in 3 years.
but lets be realistic here. isnt this movie shorter than the first one?

[Spider-Fan]

My ideal Surfer movie is 2hr - 2hr 15 min. My idea (on the last page) would work in this time span.

Somwhere in that ratio.

Now the question becomes, who do you think should direct it?

[Kelly]

:cwink:

a longer movie is a must in 3 years.
but lets be realistic here. isnt this movie shorter than the first one?

yes by, about 10 minutes give or take a few....

[Spider-Fan]

FF3 Runtime - 80 minutes!

[coreymb16]

FF3 Runtime - 80 minutes!I really doubt that the running time will be twelve minutes less than the this film.

[Kelly]

FF3 Runtime - 80 minutes!


Do you feel lucky?????.....well.............do ya?:cmad:

[Spider-Fan]

I really doubt that the running time will be twelve minutes less than the this film.

FF runtime - 106 minutes

FF2 runtime - 92 minutes

I am generous with that 12 minutes runtime cut, lol.

[Spider-Fan]

Do you feel lucky?????.....well.............do ya?:cmad:

Yep...thats why I said 80 instead of 75.

[Kelly]

Yep...thats why I said 80 instead of 75.





bang.............................................. ....................................:ninja:

[Spider-Fan]

bang.............................................. ....................................:ninja:

Ow, you shot me!

[TheShadowCat]

My ideal Surfer movie is 2hr - 2hr 15 min. My idea (on the last page) would work in this time span.

Somwhere in that ratio.

Now the question becomes, who do you think should direct it?
My ideal SS movie would be directed by Brian Singer with the Fox suits locked in a closet until after the movie came out.

>^..^<

[Bishop2]

My ideal SS movie would be directed by Brian Singer with the Fox suits locked in a closet until after the movie came out.

>^..^<

Hell, I hated his approach to Superman Returns, but the same approach would actually work for me on Silver Surfer.

[Antonello Blueberry]

Hellmistress i am really sorry. i now know that SS is not CGI. and this pic is PROOF :ninja:

Seeing the movie, you will understand everything.

[Antonello Blueberry]

*hands Antonello a margarita*

I believe it's in his contract that they have to credit him somewhere. I wasn't expecting him to be credited in the title sequence, though it would have been nice. So, how far down was his credit?

It's in the top ten, right before the actress who plays Roberta, the holographic receptionist. :oldrazz:

[Advanced Dark]

My ideal SS movie would be directed by Brian Singer with the Fox suits locked in a closet until after the movie came out.

>^..^<

Bryan Singer just isn't the directing GOD everyone makes him out to be. I don't think he could make a good SS film. It needs a director who's more in touch with that kind of film. Believe it or not I'd love David Twohy for a SS film. As much as I hated Riddick I though all of his prior films were great...especially The Arrival.

[Spade]

Singer on the Silver Surfer...never thought of that before. I actually think that may turn out better in comparison to him just putting out another Superman film. The Surfer has a brooding nature, the material is thought-provoking, Galactus would undoubtedly be adapted properly...only snag would be if he could appreciate a character like Thanos as the villain. Action's not his forte.

[coreymb16]

Bryan Singer just isn't the directing GOD everyone makes him out to be. I don't think he could make a good SS film. It needs a director who's more in touch with that kind of film. Believe it or not I'd love David Twohy for a SS film. As much as I hated Riddick I though all of his prior films were great...especially The Arrival.A good director would be Alex Proyas (http://imdb.com/name/nm0001639/)

[TheShadowCat]

It's in the top ten, right before the actress who plays Roberta, the holographic receptionist. :oldrazz:
That's good to know. At least they didn't bury his name after the pizza delivery guy's.:cwink::oldrazz:

>^..^<

[Spider-Fan]

People who pop up for every comic movie:

Bryan Singer
Alex Proyas

Singer would not be good for this (see Superman Returns...he can't do a god-like character). Plus, his X-Men movies are a tad overrated. Proyas would be interesting, and he could do well with it (see Dark City).

Thus far, Proyas yay, Singer nay!

If I had to choose a different name to put out there, I would take Ridley Scott. He has shown excellent ability to work with Sci-Fi material and Gladiator showed us how he can go all out with a movie, and still have it be impactful. I am curious to see what he would have done with Dune had he stuck with the project.

However, I doubt FOX would ever get someone that huge to do it, and I think Proyas said he would never work with FOX again after I, Robot.

[TheShadowCat]

I don't care who directs it as long as the Fox suits get locked in a closet until after the movie comes out.

>^..^<

[Spider-Fan]

I wouldn't go that far, but the suits do need locked in a closet for the production. You're right about that.

I do want a director with a vision, however. That, to me, is key. I don't want a cookie-cutter director doing the SS.

As for who would have the right vision for the Surfer, I am not sure who I would get for it. The SS needs to be epic. I am also curious to see how they go about it. Will it be a prequel? A sequel with flashbacks? Or a sequel with some references to his past?

They can go many places with it.

[Warhammer]

People who pop up for every comic movie:

Bryan Singer
Alex Proyas

Singer would not be good for this (see Superman Returns...he can't do a god-like character). Plus, his X-Men movies are a tad overrated. Proyas would be interesting, and he could do well with it (see Dark City).

Thus far, Proyas yay, Singer nay!

If I had to choose a different name to put out there, I would take Ridley Scott. He has shown excellent ability to work with Sci-Fi material and Gladiator showed us how he can go all out with a movie, and still have it be impactful. I am curious to see what he would have done with Dune had he stuck with the project.

However, I doubt FOX would ever get someone that huge to do it, and I think Proyas said he would never work with FOX again after I, Robot.

I always thought Bryan Singer was the best person to do Fantastic Four films. Bryan Singer's strong points are great character depth/development, good storytelling, and just overall good direction. He also loves Sci-Fi, which would've been a great asset to making these movies. Even though he severely lacks in the action department, it can be improved (Besides, story >>> action is top priority).

No fanboyistic ill feelings towards Tim Story, but he simply doesn't bring his A-game. Fantastic Four, while enjoyable, was a bad movie and critically panned. ROTSS is seeming to follow the same pattern, more or less. Tim Story can do really good movies (Barbershop was a really good movie), but just doesn't cut it with the Fan Four.

[Spider-Fan]

I always thought Bryan Singer was the best person to do Fantastic Four films. Bryan Singer's strong points are great character depth/development, good storytelling, and just overall good direction. He also loves Sci-Fi, which would've been a great asset to making these movies. Even though he severely lacks in the action department, it can be improved (Besides, story >>> action is top priority).

No fanboyistic ill feelings towards Tim Story, but he simply doesn't bring his A-game. Fantastic Four, while enjoyable, was a bad movie and critically panned. ROTSS is seeming to follow the same pattern, more or less. Tim Story can do really good movies (Barbershop was a really good movie), but just doesn't cut it with the Fan Four.

I think Singer is overrated. For FF, he could do well (X-Men movies showed he could develop several characters at once), but not the Surfer. He took Superman, and made him boring. His character was bland and lacked personality, thats why I don't see him making a good Surfer movie. If he took Superman and did that, then I'd hate to see how boring he makes the Surfer.

Singer is just not cut out for a Surfer movie. Nor do I think Tim Story is.

[Warhammer]

I think Singer is overrated. For FF, he could do well (X-Men movies showed he could develop several characters at once), but not the Surfer. He took Superman, and made him boring. His character was bland and lacked personality, thats why I don't see him making a good Surfer movie. If he took Superman and did that, then I'd hate to see how boring he makes the Surfer.

Singer is just not cut out for a Surfer movie. Nor do I think Tim Story is.

Looking at the films that he directed, I do not think that Singer is overrated at all. I also don't think that Singer would make the Surfer boring. Supes can not be blamed for it. Supes was "boring" because he wanted him to be that way involving the overall (Greatly directed, but nowhere near what I wanted to see/Rehash of Superman: The Movie) story.

Oh well, I'll have to agree to disagree. :up:

[Spider-Fan]

Looking at the films that he directed, I do not think that Singer is overrated at all. I also don't think that Singer would make the Surfer boring. Supes can not be blamed for it. Supes was "boring" because he wanted him to be that way involving the overall (Greatly directed, but nowhere near what I wanted to see/Rehash of Superman: The Movie) story.

Oh well, I'll have to agree to disagree. :up:

I didn't see the Usual Suspects, but X-Men and X2, while good, are overrated a bit to me. I see elements of greatness in them, but they get dragged down for a few reasons, but as this is the FF forum, I won't get too into that here. I am also a major SR hater, and I don't think he can do a space epic with a god-like character. If he had his way, maybe the Surfer had a kid he abandoned before he left Zenn-La, and can lift landmasses when he shouldn't have powers.

However, I will agree to disagree.

[Spider-Fan]

I see JMS is writing the screenplay (see the thread in the sequels forum). While he may suck with Spider-Man, JMS is a good writer and I think a great choice to write the Surfer's movie.

[Bishop2]

Can anyone explain to me where the Surfer came from? If Galactus is a storm, I mean... and it doesn't talk... then where did he get the surfboard and the power cosmic, according to this movie?

[coreymb16]

Can anyone explain to me where the Surfer came from? If Galactus is a storm, I mean... and it doesn't talk... then where did he get the surfboard and the power cosmic, according to this movie?That is what the Silver Surfer solo film is for.

[Bishop2]

That is what the Silver Surfer solo film is for.

Unacceptable.

You should never, ever assume that your movie will be so successful that you'll get to make a sequel/spinoff. Unless you're an overconfident moron like Uwe Boll. Your movie needs to make internal sense on its own terms. RotSS needs to contain logic within itself, on the off chance that there is NEVER a spinoff. Otherwise the movie fails dramatically in the writing department.

So if that's the case, that sucks so hard there's no way to put it into words.

[Spider-Fan]

I am not unhappy about it. I like keeping the mystery around him.

[Bishop2]

I am not unhappy about it. I like keeping the mystery around him.

I'm waiting for confirmation. If they drop the ball and offer NO explanation for how he obtained this power cosmic/surfboard and NO explanation for why he is leading a world-devouring entity through space, the movie fails utterly.

Someone who saw the movie already - please answer the call.

[Spider-Fan]

I am sure he says something about it, but doesn't go into much detail.

[Retroman]

FF3 Runtime - 80 minutes!

lol I wouldn't it past them though.:(

[Retroman]

Singer on the Silver Surfer...never thought of that before. I actually think that may turn out better in comparison to him just putting out another Superman film. The Surfer has a brooding nature, the material is thought-provoking, Galactus would undoubtedly be adapted properly...only snag would be if he could appreciate a character like Thanos as the villain. Action's not his forte.
Agreed, but i say for the SS movie give someone else who hasn't done a comic book movie a fair crack at the whip. People always suggest Peter Jackson, James Cameron, David Fincher, Spielberg etc. Great directors, yes, but it's very unlikey to happen i think.Unless Fox are willing to cough a big budget and more creative control.


http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/master_and_commander__the_far_side_of_the_world/baz_luhrmann/masterpre4.jpg

Oscar nominee Baz Luhrmann (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0525303/) (Moulin Rouge, Romeo & Juliet) is a big fan of Silver Surfer plus he's also directing Fox's upcoming outback epic Australia (starring Hugh Jackman and Nicole Kidman). He's got a nice visual style which i'd be interested in seeing in a comic book movie and he'll more than likely be able to attract bigname talent.

[Spider-Fan]

Agreed, but i say for the SS movie give someone else who hasn't done a comic book movie a fair crack at the whip. People always suggest Peter Jackson, James Cameron, David Fincher, Spielberg etc. Great directors, yes, but it's very unlikey to happen i think.Unless Fox are willing to cough a big budget and more creative control.


http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/master_and_commander__the_far_side_of_the_world/baz_luhrmann/masterpre4.jpg

Oscar nominee Baz Luhrmann (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0525303/) (Moulin Rouge, Romeo & Juliet) is a big fan of Silver Surfer plus he's also directing Fox's upcoming outback epic Australia (starring Hugh Jackman and Nicole Kidman). He's got a nice visual style which i'd be interested in seeing in a comic book movie and he'll more than likely be able to attract bigname talent.

Actually, inspired director idea Retorman :up: He would be an excellent choice.

[Hunter Rider]

Just watched the Fountain,i think Aronorfsky could do a great SS movie

[Spider-Fan]

Just watched the Fountain,i think Aronorfsky could do a great SS movie

Yes, he would do a great one! Great choice. The Fountain was such a great movie.

[Retroman]

Actually, inspired director idea Retorman :up: He would be an excellent choice.
Thanks!:yay:
Just watched the Fountain,i think Aronorfsky could do a great SS movie
Nice choice.
Haven't seen The Fountain yet since it only played in a handfull theaters here when it opened last month so i'll have to wait for the dvd.There have been some bad reviews but i've read many great things about it as well. Aronofsky only had 35 million to make the movie (that has no CGI apparently) so he's used to working with a tight budget which is right up the studio's ally. Also, i thought Requiem For A Dream was an exceptional movie.

[The Caped Knight]

I hope Story stays true to the character & Heart of The Silver Surffer in FF2 .

[nightwing06]

http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/images/custom_avatars/avatar63914_30.gif

[Mr. Socko]

The Surfer just looks SOOOOOOOO amazing. I will see this film just for him, if nothing else.


But I heard Larry doesnt have many lines.

[TNC9852002]

Yeah, SS doesn't talk a whole lot, but I guess I wouldn't want him to..

-TNC

[FNSpidey]

I have a question. Have the comics ever presented SS's board as the source of his power? I don't recall anything like that.

[ghost_x]

Nope, the comics always claimed his powers derived from the surfer absorbing the galaxys energy. Galactus gave him the cosmic power.

[Spider-Fan]

The power cosmic runs through the Surfer, not the board.

However, this idea wasn't that bad to the Surfer in the movie, just as long as they don't make a certain type of disturbance every movie with him to seperate them, I will be fine.

[FNSpidey]

Nope, the comics always claimed his powers derived from the surfer absorbing the galaxys energy. Galactus gave him the cosmic power.

Thanks, that's how I remember it too. If I remember correctly, he could even create his board out of thin air.

The power cosmic runs through the Surfer, not the board.

However, this idea wasn't that bad to the Surfer in the movie, just as long as they don't make a certain type of disturbance every movie with him to seperate them, I will be fine.

But it does demean the character, doesn't it? I mean, he's the Silver Surfer, there are not many in the whole Marvel Universe that can rival him. If any random dude can get on his board and become him, he's not really that unique, is he?

[Spider-Fan]

But it does demean the character, doesn't it? I mean, he's the Silver Surfer, there are not many in the whole Marvel Universe that can rival him. If any random dude can get on his board and become him, he's not really that unique, is he?

There are still not many that can rival him. Doom and Reed are two of the greatest minds in Marvel, and it took both to make that connection and exploit it.

He is still unique, and doing this once doesn't demean his character, but if it happens repeatidely to him in future movies, it does. This should be the only time it happens.

[Bishop2]

Going into the movie, I thought the surfboard idea was perfectly tolerable.

Having seen it, I actually LOVE it. It really humanizes the Surfer and ups the ante significantly.

[ghost_x]

Thanks, that's how I remember it too. If I remember correctly, he could even create his board out of thin air.


No problem. Ye, I'm pretty sure I've seen him do that, it all relates back to his ability to dissolve physical matter.

[FNSpidey]

There are still not many that can rival him. Doom and Reed are two of the greatest minds in Marvel, and it took both to make that connection and exploit it.

The way you put it, it doesn't sound that bad, but I still don't like it. Besides, what connection did Reed and Doom make? Reed just says "pulse" and that's it? Where do they base that assumption? What pulse? An EMP? Did they assume the board was electrical? Why were there no worries that their plan might not work? I think the idea could be presented better.

[Spider-Fan]

The way you put it, it doesn't sound that bad, but I still don't like it. Besides, what connection did Reed and Doom make? Reed just says "pulse" and that's it? Where do they base that assumption? What pulse? An EMP? Did they assume the board was electrical? Why were there no worries that their plan might not work? I think the idea could be presented better.

It was a certain kind of pulse. Forgot what he said. Doom found the source (Reed could have done that), and Reed had to think for hours for the pulse idea. Without one, the other wouldn't have done it.

And if the idea didn't work, well what were they going to do? They needed to do something fast, and you can't really test something like that. You just kind of have to do it.

[FNSpidey]

And if the idea didn't work, well what were they going to do? They needed to do something fast, and you can't really test something like that. You just kind of have to do it.

Agreed, but I don't remember any uncertainty or elevation after it actually worked. It looked like "A pulse! Why didn't we think of it before? Let's go get him!". Oh well...

[Spider-Fan]

Agreed, but I don't remember any uncertainty or elevation after it actually worked. It looked like "A pulse! Why didn't we think of it before? Let's go get him!". Oh well...

I think that would be more the fault of the actor's than the plan itself.

[TheShadowCat]

For those who have seen the movie already, which voice did they use? Did they use the voice from the first trailer where he sound otherworldly (to me at any rate) or did they use the rediculously deep voice that makes him sound like he has a pack a day habit?

>^..^<

[Bishop2]

Background on the Silver Surfer effects (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/2007/06/11/2007-06-11_time_for_a_surf_attack.html).

The debate can now end - Doug Jones did on-set motion capture in a green suit with sensors all over, and the Surfer was rendered with CGI later.

[TNC9852002]

For those who have seen the movie already, which voice did they use? Did they use the voice from the first trailer where he sound otherworldly (to me at any rate) or did they use the rediculously deep voice that makes him sound like he has a pack a day habit?

>^..^<
Both? :p

-TNC

[Hellmistress]

Background on the Silver Surfer effects (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/2007/06/11/2007-06-11_time_for_a_surf_attack.html).

The debate can now end - Doug Jones did on-set motion capture in a green suit with sensors all over, and the Surfer was rendered with CGI later.

Doug has never ... NEVER ... worn a green screen leotard, done motion capture or reference capture in his 20-plus year film career. Doug wore a suit designed by Spectral Motion, and was the Surfer when he walked onto the set. WETA digitally created the shine on top.

HM

[TheShadowCat]

Background on the Silver Surfer effects (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/2007/06/11/2007-06-11_time_for_a_surf_attack.html).

The debate can now end - Doug Jones did on-set motion capture in a green suit with sensors all over, and the Surfer was rendered with CGI later.
Can we please drop this subject? As HM said, Doug's never done motion capture and I've also stated as much. We've repeated ourselves until our fingers were sore from the typing. SS is part Doug, part suit by Spectral Motion and part CG enhancements by WETA. MTV blew the cover off of this ages ago and I don't know why Fox continues to lie about it and at this point I don't care. All I ask is that people STOP bringing it up. You can throw article after article at us, but it won't change the fact that they're just repeating what Fox told them, not because they were there. Now give it a rest.

>^..^<

[Spider-Fan]

I wish he would have said "To me, my board" when the board was coming back to him. That would have been perfect!

[Knightsaber Priss]

Anyone else think that Silver Surfer needs his own solo movie? Preliminarily I'm going to have to say he's the best thing about FF2.

[TheShadowCat]

Spider-Fan930, as HM said, Doug tried to get the line put it, but it wasn't allowed. We don't know why, but it was. But at least Doug did try to get it in.

Godzill2000, I believe that a Silver Surfer movie is in the plans and that JMS (the guy who created Babylon 5) is writing the script. I know I saw an article about it recently, I'll see if I can find it. At any rate, Doug has signed on for a 3 movie deal so I believe the intent is for him to come back and reprise the role.

>^..^<

[Spider-Fan]

Spider-Fan930, as HM said, Doug tried to get the line put it, but it wasn't allowed. We don't know why, but it was. But at least Doug did try to get it in.

Godzill2000, I believe that a Silver Surfer movie is in the plans and that JMS (the guy who created Babylon 5) is writing the script. I know I saw an article about it recently, I'll see if I can find it. At any rate, Doug has signed on for a 3 movie deal so I believe the intent is for him to come back and reprise the role.

>^..^<

Yeah, look in the sequels forum. JMS is writing a script for it. I can't wait. Love the Surfer, and this movie did him justice. Now we just need to see Galactus done for real!

Props to Doug for trying to get it in. He obviously did his research on the Surfer. Wish they would have let it in. For that moment, it would have been perfect.

[Knightsaber Priss]

Godzill2000, I believe that a Silver Surfer movie is in the plans and that JMS (the guy who created Babylon 5) is writing the script. I know I saw an article about it recently, I'll see if I can find it. At any rate, Doug has signed on for a 3 movie deal so I believe the intent is for him to come back and reprise the role.

>^..^<

Oh, this makes me happy. JMS has proven that with Babylon 5 he has the writing chops to create a distinctly character driven vehicle for the Surfer. Visually the character is quite stunning in FF2.

[Bishop2]

Can we please drop this subject? As HM said, Doug's never done motion capture and I've also stated as much. We've repeated ourselves until our fingers were sore from the typing. SS is part Doug, part suit by Spectral Motion and part CG enhancements by WETA. MTV blew the cover off of this ages ago and I don't know why Fox continues to lie about it and at this point I don't care. All I ask is that people STOP bringing it up. You can throw article after article at us, but it won't change the fact that they're just repeating what Fox told them, not because they were there. Now give it a rest.

>^..^<

It's an interview with WETA staff members who rendered the Surfer. WETA is repeating what Fox told them? WETA is lying about how they did it?

I do agree that the issue is now closed, though.

[TheShadowCat]

Oh, this makes me happy. JMS has proven that with Babylon 5 he has the writing chops to create a distinctly character driven vehicle for the Surfer. Visually the character is quite stunning in FF2.
And I found the article too: Silver Surfer movie (http://www.cinematical.com/2007/06/13/silver-surfer-solo-film-being-prepped-and-thor-may-get-directo/)

>^..^<

[Kelly]

For those who have seen the movie already, which voice did they use? Did they use the voice from the first trailer where he sound otherworldly (to me at any rate) or did they use the rediculously deep voice that makes him sound like he has a pack a day habit?

>^..^<


Well all I can say is......I didn't like either voice the trailer voice, or the TV spot later.....


I'm not sure if they fixed what I didn't like, because I couldn't put my finger on the problem...lol BUT I did like the voice in the movie, so maybe once it was all put together it was more to my liking.....I have no idea....

[Bishop2]

If they manage to get the Silver Surfer movie into production, AND the movie winds up showing us his backstory before he got all silvery... who do you guys think should play Norrin Radd? Should Doug Jones or Laurence Fishburne be up for it?

[ghost_x]

If your talking about a pre-surfer Radd than I wouldn't like Fishbourne for the role, that said I wouldn't be too hot for Jones either. I always liked Wentworth Miller for Norrin Radd

[Kelly]

If they manage to get the Silver Surfer movie into production, AND the movie winds up showing us his backstory before he got all silvery... who do you guys think should play Norrin Radd? Should Doug Jones or Laurence Fishburne be up for it?

No, neither of them....


If your talking about a pre-surfer Radd than I wouldn't like Fishbourne for the role, that said I wouldn't be too hot for Jones either. I always liked Wentworth Miller for Norrin Radd

That's who my vote goes to.....

[Spider-Fan]

If they manage to get the Silver Surfer movie into production, AND the movie winds up showing us his backstory before he got all silvery... who do you guys think should play Norrin Radd? Should Doug Jones or Laurence Fishburne be up for it?

Jones would be fine. LF is too old and doesn't have the body type, while it is Jones' body type on screen. Why not?

But, I don't care if they get someone new, either.

[TheShadowCat]

Well, I think Fishburne would be completely wrong for the role since Norrin has fair colored skin in the comics, but then again, so did Alicia, so who knows, but I just think Fishburne is too old and quite frankly, he's not the right size. He's about 3 inches shorter than Doug and he has a much stockier build. Miller is just a hair taller than Fishbure, but his build is closer to that of the Surfer than Fishburne's. As for Doug being up for the role, if they're not willing to let him use his voice, why would they let him use his face?

>^..^<

[ghost_x]

There's something about his look and body language that conveys an alien yet peaceful appearance but is able to show anxiety and distress. His voice is also calm yet commanding.

http://handson.provocateuse.com/images/photos/wentworth_miller_06.jpg

[the a1ant]

Wentworth Miller is a great choice, imo, and he was on Fox's Prison Break, too. I'm seriously going to e-mail Tom Rothman with this casting choice, lol :p

[BH/HHH]

Silver Surfer ruled, at times I couldn't tell it was Larrys voice but he nailed it IMO.

For the Silver Surfer movie they should do flashback ala nolan's Batman Begins (I'm not saying it should do the same with realism, etc but they should set it in modern day and flashback to the Silvers origins).

[Hellmistress]

http://www.ifmagazine.com/review.asp?article=1840

HM

[TheShadowCat]

http://www.ifmagazine.com/review.asp?article=1840

HM
I could kiss that reviewer.

>^..^<

[Spider-Fan]

In the Surfer movie, we need a scene where Galactus tells the Surfer how in all the universe, the Surfer is the only one he really cares about. We need to see how much Galactus cares for the Surfer. The relationship between Galactus and the Surfer is one of the greatest in comics, and I hope they don't make Galactus out to be evil, because Galactus is not evil. He is essential to the cosmic balance and does what he needs to survive.

The Surfer spin-off will be one of my most anticipated films once they really get started on it (scripts can take a while), even if it is at FOX. The Surfer was done so beautifully in this movie, and was easily my favorite part. I felt they captured all the necessary parts of his character, and Fishbourne's voice was great for the Surfer. It was a lot like I have always pictured him sounding like. Jones captured his movements perfectly, also. Just how I pictured him moving, also.

[Kelly]

Ended up loving the voice......and boy I was thinking I wasn't going to since I didn't like either voice I heard before....

[darkseid26]

this just in the surfers new look look for the spin off


http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9849/mmsupesgc7.jpg

[ghost_x]

Just came back from the film, (saw it at some new revolutionary cinema in UK where you could sit on bean bags or couches, and the screen was HD goodness), thought like the first film, it was a very fun light hearted movie, nothing that needed deep concentration, but was very enjoyable none the less. My big issues:

- Jones was brilliant as the surfer, his movement was graceful yet powerful, what ruined it was ultimately Fishbournes too deep voice, it was so off from the calm movements of the surfer.

- Dooms conclusion was so abrupt and sudden, clearly they are going to bring him back, but we have still yet to of had the ultimate battle that the Doom from the comics should be giving.

- Galactus, nuff said

- The effects. It seemed as if all the productions budget was spent on the surfer, as whilst he looked great, mostly everything was so poorly executed. The CGI of Mr Fantastic, especially during the dance scene was atrocious.

- Jessica Alba, her acting hasn't improved in the slightest, and instead of being her usual eye candy, she was actually scary looking with the unnatural blonde and alien like blue contacts.

[The Caped Knight]

The Surfer looked cool , Jones did a good job in his appearence & Movement as the Silver Sufer, The Effect used on displaying his powers were awesome, But... Fishburne got the bad end of the deal, he hardly sopke

I was expecting Fishburne to say a hell of alot more . What a total rip-off

[Spider-Fan]

The Surfer looked cool , Jones did a good job in his appearence & Movement as the Silver Sufer, The Effect used on displaying his powers were awesome, But... Fishburne got the bad end of the deal, he hardly sopke

I was expecting Fishburne to say a hell of alot more . What a total rip-off

But what little he said was awesome!!!

Cause the Surfer was just great in this movie.

[The Geek Vault]

Ok I got a question for you guys when the surfer is depowered, is that what he looks like when he was natural? Also idk why but when he got back on the board in the end, I was kind of annoyed at his feet.

[ghost_x]

What annoyed me was how he did the Jedi force to retrieve the board at the end when he clearly didn't have his powers anymore

[Spider-Fan]

What annoyed me was how he did the Jedi force to retrieve the board at the end when he clearly didn't have his powers anymore

The board and him I think had a mental link that was disrupted when the device was active, but when Johnny destroyed it, the link was restored.

[ghost_x]

See this is why, when a no brainer movie like this puts in tiny details such as that, they fly right over my head. It's as if I'm watching it for the pretty colours.

[Frico]

The board and him I think had a mental link that was disrupted when the device was active, but when Johnny destroyed it, the link was restored.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinkin too

Anyway, thought the Surfer looked damn awesome on screen. Seriously, Jones did a fine job with all the moves, etc. But I'm gonna go ahead an' agree that I thought Fisburne should've had more to say. Cause I really felt that he didn't say enough :dry:

Still, I was happy with how they made him all around. Hope he gets his own flick :up:

[ghost_x]

Another thing that I got lost with, firstly what did Surfer do to destory Galactus? He exploded himself? and how did he survive intact?

[Spider-Fan]

Another thing that I got lost with, firstly what did Surfer do to destory Galactus? He exploded himself? and how did he survive intact?

It looked more like he sent out a massive, full body cosmic blast and utilized all of the power he could muster. Sort of a power explosion, but not a body explosion.

Also, I don't think Galactus is dead, but that is another story.

[ghost_x]

He clearly believed it would kill him, how did he survive.

Ye, of course Galactus ain't gone, even as a cloud he's still a bad ass

[Spider-Fan]

He clearly believed it would kill him, how did he survive.

Ye, of course Galactus ain't gone, even as a cloud he's still a bad ass

He was just using all of his power. In the comic when he stands up to Galactus, he kept saying to him how he was going to use all of his power on him. This was like monster attack as opposed to several powerful blasts. I also don't think he knew it could kill him or not so much as he felt he needed to do something, as he was the only one that could.

[ghost_x]

I know all that, but he said something like 'I'm going to destroy both of us' (or something along those lines), implying that he is sacrificing himself to destroy Galactus

[Spider-Fan]

I know all that, but he said something like 'I'm going to destroy both of us' (or something along those lines), implying that he is sacrificing himself to destroy Galactus

I think this was more of a he had no idea what would happen type deal, and he thought he was going to die. Plus, he had to have a cool, climactic line.

A not in movie explanation is it is also possible Galactus didn't let him die, because Galactus cares for the Surfer, and is the only other being he cares about.

[BH/HHH]

Ok I got a question for you guys when the surfer is depowered, is that what he looks like when he was natural? Also idk why but when he got back on the board in the end, I was kind of annoyed at his feet.

He looks darker, like muckier steel.

[TheShadowCat]

I'm going to go temporarily insane here for a moment and state that I really like Harry right now.

Ain't it Cool News F4 review (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33012)

>^..^<

[KOLLUS]

I'm going to go temporarily insane here for a moment and state that I really like Harry right now.

eww.

:woot:

[TNC9852002]

When he was de-powered, he was still, like silvery, but looked like how silver gets when its really old and starts corroding...I liked that.

-TNC

[Hellmistress]

When he was de-powered, he was still, like silvery, but looked like how silver gets when its really old and starts corroding...I liked that.

-TNC

The tarnished Surfer is fantastic, and what you see is mostly Doug and Spectral's suit with only a teensy bit of CG from WETA. Beautifully done.

HM

[MattC]

http://movies.go.com/summer/trailer?cid=888863&vid=897040

Chris Evans shares his thoughts on the treatment of Doug Jones.

[Hellmistress]

http://movies.go.com/summer/trailer?cid=888863&vid=897040

Chris Evans shares his thoughts on the treatment of Doug Jones.

Can't get it to play - it just keeps freezing. :(

HM

[MattC]

Can't get it to play - it just keeps freezing. :(

HM
He basically voices the fact that he feels it is unfair that Doug hasn't been given the credit he deserves. He said he was on set every time the Surfer was in a scene, and that while the CGI is great it is Doug that is the Surfer.

[Kelly]

http://movies.go.com/summer/trailer?cid=888863&vid=897040

Chris Evans shares his thoughts on the treatment of Doug Jones.



Good for Chris....bravo...


But let me just say....that interviewer, IS BY FAR THE WORST INTERVIEWER I HAVE EVER HEARD......ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE.....



good lord ...:dry: :dry:

[Spade]

It does indeed sound offbeat. The interviewer made it sound less like prepared questions and more like he recorded idle chit-chat.

[tedw]

^ I shudder to imagine what you'll think of our interviews! :p

[BH/HHH]

http://movies.go.com/summer/trailer?cid=888863&vid=897040

Chris Evans shares his thoughts on the treatment of Doug Jones.

What does your family do during dinner? ha ha ha

I kind of agree with what Chris was saying about the CGI, etc.

I'd like to have seen what Doug Jones would've sounded like aswell TBH.

[Hellmistress]

He basically voices the fact that he feels it is unfair that Doug hasn't been given the credit he deserves. He said he was on set every time the Surfer was in a scene, and that while the CGI is great it is Doug that is the Surfer.

Thanks, Matt - I finally did get it to work after a lot of very unkind words were flung at the screen.

Bless Chris. A nice guy. But as has already been said, that fella's not the best interviewer in the world, huh.

HM

[Kelly]

Thanks, Matt - I finally did get it to work after a lot of very unkind words were flung at the screen.

Bless Chris. A nice guy. But as has already been said, that fella's not the best interviewer in the world, huh.

HM


Wait until you here his first question for Jessica.....LMAO...................hahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[WorthyStevens]

He basically voices the fact that he feels it is unfair that Doug hasn't been given the credit he deserves. He said he was on set every time the Surfer was in a scene, and that while the CGI is great it is Doug that is the Surfer.

Doug definitely should've been credited as the Silver Surfer. It felt pretty terrible seeing Fishburne getting credit for the voice, during the beginning credits, but Jones not for the actual body work.

[dark_b]

so was the surfer CGI ?

[TheShadowCat]

so was the surfer CGI ?
How many times do we have to tell you no. Here, I'll make it easy for you to read.

NO!!!

Now please drop it.

>^..^<

[Advanced Dark]

Shadowcat that's not entirely true. Doug was there was prothestics on but there was CGI enhancement.

[Advanced Dark]

Doug definitely should've been credited as the Silver Surfer. It felt pretty terrible seeing Fishburne getting credit for the voice, during the beginning credits, but Jones not for the actual body work.

It sucks but that's the way it is. Do you know who was in the suit as Spidey during the 3 films. His movements and look was just as important.

[TheShadowCat]

Shadowcat that's not entirely true. Doug was there was prothestics on but there was CGI enhancement.
dark_b asked if the Silver Surfer was a Computer Generated Image. He's not. He's CG enhanced, therefore, my answer stands.

>^..^<

[Advanced Dark]

Shadowcat I think you need to go back to the Silver Balls thread and relax. LOL

[Noir]

Did anyone notice everytime Fishborne talked it was always alittle jerky and in some scenes there was even a very predominate white noise that stopped right after he stopped speaking.

[TheShadowCat]

Shadowcat I think you need to go back to the Silver Balls thread and relax. LOL
I'd love to but one of the mods closed the thread.:csad:

>^..^<

[C. Lee]

Did anyone notice everytime Fishborne talked it was always alittle jerky and in some scenes there was even a very predominate white noise that stopped right after he stopped speaking.

Nope....didn't notice that, but I'll look for it next time. It could have just been the sound system at your theater.

[Kelly]

Did anyone notice everytime Fishborne talked it was always alittle jerky and in some scenes there was even a very predominate white noise that stopped right after he stopped speaking.


Nope sounded awesome to me.....

[SlyGuyTtjn]

So the Surfer was CGI right ShadowCat?












j/k:) So I thought it was weird he lost his .. Shinyness without the board.. but still shows his loss of power.

[TheShadowCat]

So the Surfer was CGI right ShadowCat?


j/k:) So I thought it was weird he lost his .. Shinyness without the board.. but still shows his loss of power.

You trying to be sent to bed without dinner? Hmmm?:cwink::oldrazz: It wouldn't be so bad if they guy didn't keep bringing up the subject even after a mod told him/her/it to stop.

>^..^<

[SlyGuyTtjn]

You trying to be sent to bed without dinner? Hmmm?:cwink::oldrazz: It wouldn't be so bad if they guy didn't keep bringing up the subject even after a mod told him/her/it to stop.

>^..^<


Lol naw I'm just kidding around.. So I liked the Silver Surfer, but he deffinetaly looked odd without the board.. Like his eyes and stuff.. He looked alien alright, so :up:

[TimDrakeRobin45]

actually yea I did notice a bit of white noise when
Surfer Spoke. Most memoribly when he was speaking to sue
while tarnished.

[the a1ant]

Fishburne's voice sounded best when SS was powered-down. When it was more CG, it didn't fit, IMO. But that's prob because it looked CG.

[BH/HHH]

ALL THAT YOU KNOW IS AT AN END - my favourite line

[dark_b]

here in this video you can see doug in the silver surfer suit.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5HQvjkb18Fk

ok i was wrong. when silver surfer will lost hes powers it is doug in the suit. but when silver surfer has the powers than i still think that it is CGI.

but i admit that i was wrong. in some parts of the movie it is 100% doug in hte suit.

[Spiderine]

I loved the surfer.

[Antonello Blueberry]

here in this video you can see doug in the silver surfer suit.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5HQvjkb18Fk

ok i was wrong. when silver surfer will lost hes powers it is doug in the suit. but when silver surfer has the powers than i still think that it is CGI.

but i admit that i was wrong. in some parts of the movie it is 100% doug in hte suit.
In more parts that you can imagine.
See part 2 of the MTV special (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qx7ig_cNB8) at 8:33 you'll see Doug in a really silvery suit, ready for a scene with Jessica.

[dark_b]

In more parts that you can imagine.
See part 2 of the MTV special (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qx7ig_cNB8) at 8:33 you'll see Doug in a really silvery suit, ready for a scene with Jessica.i didnt know that SS will be without hes powers and look like a dirty metal. i dint read every spoiler.
this is doug there. no doubt about it. :dry:

[Hellmistress]

i didnt know that SS will be without hes powers and look like a dirty metal. i dint read every spoiler.
this is doug there. no doubt about it. :dry:

S'okay. :D

You can see the difference between the suits quite clearly - there were a number of suits, split between the Surfer fully-powered up and the Tarnished Surfer, which you see in the holding cell scenes and in the Fantasticar. Now you can see why Doug said he's never looked so hot in his life!

And as a side note, you can see the great Spectral Motion people (designers and creators of said suit), led by Mike Elizalde working on The Thing, including Bart Mixon who worked on HELLBOY with Ron Perlman. Both of them are in Budapest at the moment, working on the HELLBOY sequel, along with the team who applied Doug's makeup and the suit in FF:RotSS, and with whom he has worked many times before. Great guys, who deserve a huge amount of kudos for their work on the Surfer in this film, and haven't had a damn thing. Tsk. Naughty Fox. ;)

HM

[Antonello Blueberry]

Doug in full Silver Surfer mode.

[BH/HHH]

Doug in full Silver Surfer mode.

SHINY :woot:

[Spade]

Even if they didn't try with CGI, that would have impressed me. Doug Jones really deserves praise for his work on this movie.

[The Only Woj]

I almost wish they didn't CG the Surfer at all. Doug in the shiny suit would have been fine by me. Honestly, I liked how the Surfer looked much more when he wasn't CG'd. Mainly because they did such a poor job with the lip syncing when he was.

[Hellmistress]

I almost wish they didn't CG the Surfer at all. Doug in the shiny suit would have been fine by me. Honestly, I liked how the Surfer looked much more when he wasn't CG'd. Mainly because they did such a poor job with the lip syncing when he was.

Well, to be fair to WETA, the CG enhancement was finished long before Mr. Fishburne did his looping session, which, considering how few lines he had, must have taken him no more than a couple of days. He had to match his vocal performance to Doug's speech movements, slightly CG-enhanced though they were. In which case, they could have given Mr. Fishburne more time to get his lip-syncing right, because it certainly was a bit iffy in places.

HM

[dark_b]

Hellmistress i admit that i was wrong

http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4650&d=1182090373

sorry.

all i wanted was a pic of doug in the suit.

[SlyGuyTtjn]

Silver balls.

[Hellmistress]

Hellmistress i admit that i was wrong

http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4650&d=1182090373

sorry.

all i wanted was a pic of doug in the suit.

Awww, sweetie, don't worry! I'm glad you got one. C'mere, an' let the ol' Hellmistress give ya a hug ... :D:D:

Looks good though, doesn't he?

HM

[dark_b]

Awww, sweetie, don't worry! I'm glad you got one. C'mere, an' let the ol' Hellmistress give ya a hug ... :D:D:

Looks good though, doesn't he?

HM:ninja::wow:

[SlyGuyTtjn]

So the Surfer was CGI?















Still kidding...

[Hellmistress]

So the Surfer was CGI?















Still kidding...

Right - that's it. No lollipop for you. ;)

HM

[SlyGuyTtjn]

Right - that's it. No lollipop for you. ;)

HM

lol darn. Well it looked less CGI when he wasn't on his board.. IMO

[dark_b]

So the Surfer was CGI?















Still kidding...he was CGI :dry:
but it was also doug,

i thought that the suit wasnt that shinny. so i admit that i was wrong .but no doubt that there was still a CGI SS that they used for more complex reflection.

[BooJay]

just saw the movie last night. Damn Lawrence Fishburne and his crappy voice!! Totally ruined the Silver Surfer experience for me!

That is all.

[dark_b]

watched the movie. when SS lost hes power its all doug in the suit. no CGI. when he has powers it is CGI IMO.

i liked doug with the suit. it looked great.

[Anti-Venom]

I'm having a hard time visualizing a Silver Surfer movie. How exactly does that work? I guess the entire movie would take place before FF2?

By the way, "Rise of the Silver Surfer" isn't a very appropriate title. The surfer was rising?

The SS looked especially awesome after he lost his board. I really couldn't decide if he looked real or CGI. It was weird.

[Spider-Fan]

Flashbacks with Galactus on his way to Zenn-La is one possibility. A strict prequel is another. They could go many ways with it.

[Hellmistress]

watched the movie. when SS lost hes power its all doug in the suit. no CGI. when he has powers it is CGI IMO.

i liked doug with the suit. it looked great.

Well, that picture of Doug as the Surfer is when the Surfer has all of his powers - all shiny, see? There wasn't a lot of CG put on top of him, just enough to give him that liquid silver look and, of course, the reflection.

Brilliant suit. :D

HM

[Hellmistress]

I'm having a hard time visualizing a Silver Surfer movie. How exactly does that work? I guess the entire movie would take place before FF2?

By the way, "Rise of the Silver Surfer" isn't a very appropriate title. The surfer was rising?

The SS looked especially awesome after he lost his board. I really couldn't decide if he looked real or CGI. It was weird.

I have a thought that because of the little snippet shown during the credits, that a stand-alone movie would be post-FF:RotSS. Maybe Zenn-La would be shown in flashback, but I would suspect that they are leading us forward in the Surfer's timeline, rather than going for a prequel.

I LOVED the tarnished Surfer - so beautifully done, and so little CG that you are more or less getting Doug in a suit. Although I have to say that I was also very taken with the reflection of Johnny's flames on the Surfer. That was gorgeous. Liquid copper-bronze. Wow.

HM

[dark_b]

Well, that picture of Doug as the Surfer is when the Surfer has all of his powers - all shiny, see? There wasn't a lot of CG put on top of him, just enough to give him that liquid silver look and, of course, the reflection.

Brilliant suit. :D

HMthey added a lot of CGI. but it was doug. dont push it now. you can not make a real metalic suit.

[Fanticon]

SS was awesome...everything you'd expect from the previews and more...I'm a little upset about the deep voice and some of Fishburnes lines seemed to be delivered awkwardly...other than that, no complaints here.

[Hellmistress]

they added a lot of CGI. but it was doug. dont push it now. you can not make a real metalic suit.

They added more CG to the Silvered Surfer than to the tarnished Surfer, that's true. But they only added the silvering and the reflection. It's an enhancement, not a replacement, as it would be in motion capture. But still, it's nice work, and everyone involved did a fantastic job, iffen you'll excuse the pun. ;)

HM

[KOLLUS]

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7862/70jj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
rihanna ftw. :yay:

[Neto Magnus]

btw, did anything think Larry Fishburne was all that great as SS? It kinda threw me off cuz when SS first spoke, it was so obviously Fishburne. And too Morpheus-y.

[Bishop2]

I thought he was great casting myself. He added a lot of gravitas to the role.

[Spider-Fan]

btw, did anything think Larry Fishburne was all that great as SS? It kinda threw me off cuz when SS first spoke, it was so obviously Fishburne. And too Morpheus-y.

LF's voice is just naturally right for the Surfer. I was excited to hear he was the Surfer and not Galactus. The Surfer has a certain distance that LF's voice captured so well in the character.

[dark_b]

They added more CG to the Silvered Surfer than to the tarnished Surfer, that's true. But they only added the silvering and the reflection. It's an enhancement, not a replacement, as it would be in motion capture. But still, it's nice work, and everyone involved did a fantastic job, iffen you'll excuse the pun. ;)

HMwhich is everything right? :woot:
i posted a pic of three cubes where i explained

IMO :cwink:

but lets not go there anymore. fact is that SS looked fantastic.

we won right?

poor doug :csad:

[dark_b]

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7862/70jj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
rihanna ftw. :yay:but this is not silver. silver reflects. this is just a shinny skin.

[TheVileOne]

I think Jones' voice should've been used for the Surfer.

He finally gets to voice Abe in the animated Hellboy shows. I think that voice would've been perfect and even better for the Silver Surfer. Totally unnecessary to use a different actor for his voice.

I think it's somewhat disrespectful to Doug Jones as an actor and performer.

[dark_b]

I think Jones' voice should've been used for the Surfer.

He finally gets to voice Abe in the animated Hellboy shows. I think that voice would've been perfect and even better for the Silver Surfer. Totally unnecessary to use a different actor for his voice.

I think it's somewhat disrespectful to Doug Jones as an actor and performer.
the problem is that hes voice is not bad. he could pull it of.

hes voice will also be used in the hellboy sequel.

[SuperAl]

Yea i really wish they just went with Jones' voice instead of LF but then again the surfer didnt speak much anyway. Still LF's voice is too deep to sound natural coming from that body type. Also didnt anyone notice that the tv spots and the trailers theyve been showing alll month all had the voice we liked which i think is Jones and yet they basically tricked us and went back to the deep voice (LF).

[Ixion]

Was the Surfer after he lost his board and looked very dark and tarnished not CG? Watching it I assumed it was CG and couldn't believe it, that was certainly when he looked the best and most believeable.

[dark_b]

Was the Surfer after he lost his board and looked very dark and tarnished not CG? Watching it I assumed it was CG and couldn't believe it, that was certainly when he looked the best and most believeable.when he lost hes powers it was doug jones in the suit without any CGI added.
it was only doug in the suit.

[Onlooker]

when he lost hes powers it was doug jones in the suit without any CGI added.
it was only doug in the suit.

I haven't seen it yet (it won't open in Australia for a few days) but that's impossible because the Silver Surfer does not look like Doug Jones. His general appearance and features are computer generated so there must be a level of CGI in every shot just to maintain his overall look.

[Hellmistress]

I haven't seen it yet (it won't open in Australia for a few days) but that's impossible because the Silver Surfer does not look like Doug Jones. His general appearance and features are computer generated so there must be a level of CGI in every shot just to maintain his overall look.

Remember, the suit also altered Doug's features fairly dramatically, but there is a level of CG in every shot - more so in the 'silvered' Surfer, much less in the tarnished Surfer. If you have a look at Doug on set in the 'silvered' suit you'll see that the features are not purely Doug by any means, although the structure of the face is similar ... high cheekbones, jawline and so on. I've seen the mask close up and it's like Doug but not, if you get my meaning. Very clever.

HM

[dark_b]

I haven't seen it yet (it won't open in Australia for a few days) but that's impossible because the Silver Surfer does not look like Doug Jones. His general appearance and features are computer generated so there must be a level of CGI in every shot just to maintain his overall look.


when is in hte base it is only th suit.you will see that the suit is extreme builky. its like you two dougs in that suit.l doug is very long but skinny. they really made a big muscle suit. BIG :ninja:

its only a shiny suit IMO.

[dark_b]

Remember, the suit also altered Doug's features fairly dramatically, but there is a level of CG in every shot - more so in the 'silvered' Surfer, much less in the tarnished Surfer. If you have a look at Doug on set in the 'silvered' suit you'll see that the features are not purely Doug by any means, although the structure of the face is similar ... high cheekbones, jawline and so on. I've seen the mask close up and it's like Doug but not, if you get my meaning. Very clever.

HMis this a fact or your opinion?

where was the CGI when mr fantastic and sue helped SS walking to the fantastic car?

[Hellmistress]

I've been reading a lot of the comments here and elsewhere about Mr. Fishburne's performance, and I'm not going to comment on it, because I will be seen to be biased, which is fair enough. But I do have a question -

As Doug's voice was replaced by Mr. Fishburne's as a marketing ploy to put more bums on seats, which Fox was perfectly entitled to do, how many of you were enticed to see the film because of Mr. Fishburne's casting as the voice? Just curious, and I certainly won't be yelling at you if you say yes! :D

HM

[Hellmistress]

is this a fact or your opinion?

where was the CGI when mr fantastic and sue helped SS walking to the fantastic car?

Fact. But the CG isn't intended to LOOK like CG, now is it? It is very minimal, but it is there. Very subtle. I think there is a shot on one of the MTV specials of Doug on set strapped into the restraints, see if you can catch that - anyone up for a cap of that, please? Would LOVE to see one! But when I saw the film I did see a little difference, especially in the face and lips, but it's hard to spot, I have to admit. Maybe I'm lucky because I've seen the suit, but it is there - but there isn't much!

However, the scene where they helped the Surfer to the Fantasticar is terrific - and I have to admit I couldn't see any difference in the suit there, so maybe you're right about that shot - no CG.

HM

[tedw]

I don't think the Laurence Fishburne marketing question is a fair one, because most SHH bums filled seats because of the FF to begin with. In the same vein, you could ask how many people decided not to go after they learned Doug was not voicing the character.

[Hellmistress]

I don't think the Laurence Fishburne marketing question is a fair one, because most SHH bums filled seats because of the FF to begin with. In the same vein, you could ask how many people decided not to go after they learned Doug was not voicing the character.

Exactly my point - I can't quite grasp the reasoning behind it, but that was the explanation for the choice. FF and the Surfer would have filled seats, I was just curious as to whether the atraction of Mr. Fishburne would have put MORE bums on seats. But as the SHH forum is keen anyway, perhaps this is the wrong place to ask. Fair point.

HM

[Tony Stark]

I think Jones' voice should've been used for the Surfer.

He finally gets to voice Abe in the animated Hellboy shows. I think that voice would've been perfect and even better for the Silver Surfer. Totally unnecessary to use a different actor for his voice.

I think it's somewhat disrespectful to Doug Jones as an actor and performer.

That's like saying, it's disrespectful of David Prowse to use James Earl Jones for Darth Vader's voice.

I don't know how Doug would have done because I've never heard the voice reels, and neither has anyone else.

I think Fishburne did a pefect job, and for the life of me I can't immagine anyone else doing it. The part where he's held captive and he's telling Sue about Galactus, the tone was absolutely perfect.

I find it hillarious that the fanboys will rip Tim Story apart for getting Doom wong, but they give him no credit when he gets something right.

Tim nailed the Surfer perfectly. He was 100% spot on, and Fishburne was perfect.

[dark_b]

That's like saying, it's disrespectful of David Prowse to use James Earl Jones for Darth Vader's voice.

I don't know how Doug would have done because I've never heard the voice reels, and neither has anyone else.

I think Fishburne did a pefect job, and for the life of me I can't immagine anyone else doing it. The part where he's held captive and he's telling Sue about Galactus, the tone was absolutely perfect.

I find it hillarious that the fanboys will rip Tim Story apart for getting Doom wong, but they give him no credit when he gets something right.

Tim nailed the Surfer perfectly. He was 100% spot on, and Fishburne was perfect.
there was an interview with him where he joked about the SS voice. he could pull it off.

[Tony Stark]

Who cares if he could pull it off, Lawrence Fishburne DID pull it off. The complaints are mute points. Doug did a great job and he's in the credits.

I'm sure Story thought of Fishburne from his work on the matrix where he was the constant phillosopher (especially the first one). That is exactly what the surfer is, he's every phillosopher who'se ever existed, rolled into one.

It's just a dumb argument to say that Jones should have done it.

[Hellmistress]

That's like saying, it's disrespectful of David Prowse to use James Earl Jones for Darth Vader's voice.

I don't know how Doug would have done because I've never heard the voice reels, and neither has anyone else.

I think Fishburne did a pefect job, and for the life of me I can't immagine anyone else doing it. The part where he's held captive and he's telling Sue about Galactus, the tone was absolutely perfect.

I find it hillarious that the fanboys will rip Tim Story apart for getting Doom wong, but they give him no credit when he gets something right.

Tim nailed the Surfer perfectly. He was 100% spot on, and Fishburne was perfect.

I've heard Doug's voice for the Surfer and it was fantastic - but that aside, it wasn't Tim's decision, no matter what you hear from Fox - or Tim, for that matter. Tim was actually very keen for Doug to voice the Surfer, as were a number of the execs and everyone else on set. However, they went for Mr. Fishburne as a marketing decision, and that was done in-house - Tim really didn't have much input.

HM

[movies4life]

I didn't like Doug's performance as silver surfer to be honest. Any other dude in the a suit could have pulled off what he did.

To be honest it was the cgi of silver surfer that looked awesome not the way he moves and all.

Sorry Doug is overrated.

[Hellmistress]

Who cares if he could pull it off, Lawrence Fishburne DID pull it off. The complaints are mute points. Doug did a great job and he's in the credits.

I'm sure Story thought of Fishburne from his work on the matrix where he was the constant phillosopher (especially the first one). That is exactly what the surfer is, he's every phillosopher who'se ever existed, rolled into one.

It's just a dumb argument to say that Jones should have done it.

Don't be silly, of course it's not dumb - it's a valid argument, and a valid point. I have my own opinions on Mr. Fishburne's work (and I'm a HUGE fan of the man), but I won't voice them because I have a vested interest in the situation. The reviews on his work on this film are very mixed. But that's fine - that's the way it is, and people are entitled to an opinion. Doug plays the Surfer, Mr. Fishburne voices him, and that's that. I just was curious as to whether people thought Fox's reasoning that his name put bums on seats was valid and actually worked. But as I've said before, maybe this is the wrong forum to ask, because we're all fans and would go see the film anyway.

HM

[Ixion]

When I first saw the trailer I wasn't keen on Surfer's voice but after seeing the film I thought it was fine and suited the character perfectly.

[Kelly]

Don't be silly, of course it's not dumb - it's a valid argument, and a valid point. I have my own opinions on Mr. Fishburne's work (and I'm a HUGE fan of the man), but I won't voice them because I have a vested interest in the situation. The reviews on his work on this film are very mixed. But that's fine - that's the way it is, and people are entitled to an opinion. Doug plays the Surfer, Mr. Fishburne voices him, and that's that. I just was curious as to whether people thought Fox's reasoning that his name put bums on seats was valid and actually worked. But as I've said before, maybe this is the wrong forum to ask, because we're all fans and would go see the film anyway.

HM

I doubt that is a question that will ever be answered unless a mass exit poll was in place....as for myself......I doubt that there was a mass # of butts in seats because LF "voiced" a character. Unless the average moviegoer spends alot of time on the internet, and reads magazines that talk about movies......many probably had NO IDEA that LF was a part of this movie......so in that regard, no I don't think that he put many butts in the seats....

As far as my thoughts on his voice.......I wasn't happy with either voice I heard coming up to the movie....I was pleasantly surprised once it was all put together, and I thought he did a great job.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

The Movie Voice Casting God's are with them if nothing else, 'cause as absurdly bad as The Thing looks, the voice is pure distilled Ben Grimm, and when I heard SS was to be voiced by L.Fish, I was worried they were going to go for a James Earl Jones "intense" voice, but it came off exACTly like I've always pictured his voice in my head.

I always wanted him to sound like a kind of detached, peacefully superior Angel, almost calmly confused by Earth sometimes, but still with an obvious strength.
It was perfect.


If only they had put the same care into creating The Thing and Dr. Doom and Galactus as they put into Johnny and SS, it'd be one of my favorite movies of all time instead of a giant shame. :(

[C. Lee]

Chicklis does the Thing's voice....he did it on some shows to show how he can change his regular voice down to the Thing's.

[Agent 194]

I would have liked to see that interview/set of interviews. I think it's pretty impressive what Chiklis does with his Thing voice. And for the record I thought Fishburne did well as the Surfer voice.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Chicklis does the Thing's voice....he did it on some shows to show how he can change his regular voice down to the Thing's.I'm pretty sure everyone here knows that by now. :huh: lolwtf?

[Antonello Blueberry]

More Doug Jones as the Silver Surfer.
http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4651&stc=1&d=1182181735

[C. Lee]

I'm pretty sure everyone here knows that by now. :huh: lolwtf?

Your post about the The Movie Voice Casting God's made me think that you thought that it was dubbed by some voiceover person. I'm sure there are some who visit here that don't know everything the rest of us yahoos do.

[Tony Stark]

Don't be silly, of course it's not dumb - it's a valid argument, and a valid point. I have my own opinions on Mr. Fishburne's work (and I'm a HUGE fan of the man), but I won't voice them because I have a vested interest in the situation. The reviews on his work on this film are very mixed. But that's fine - that's the way it is, and people are entitled to an opinion. Doug plays the Surfer, Mr. Fishburne voices him, and that's that. I just was curious as to whether people thought Fox's reasoning that his name put bums on seats was valid and actually worked. But as I've said before, maybe this is the wrong forum to ask, because we're all fans and would go see the film anyway.

HM

Are you his agent? How do you have a vested interest?

Please tell me where the mixed reviews of Fisburne's work are? Other than the fanboys who even know who Doug Jones is, no one had a problem with the voice.

It is a silly argument to have. There was nothing wrong with Fishburne's voice. That doesn't undermine any of the work that Jones did.

[dark_b]

More Doug Jones as the Silver Surfer.
http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4651&stc=1&d=1182181735no CGI here IMO

[Inhuman63]

I doubt that is a question that will ever be answered unless a mass exit poll was in place....as for myself......I doubt that there was a mass # of butts in seats because LF "voiced" a character. Unless the average moviegoer spends alot of time on the internet, and reads magazines that talk about movies......many probably had NO IDEA that LF was a part of this movie......so in that regard, no I don't think that he put many butts in the seat
I think that I was the only one that knew that Laurence Fishburn was the voice of the SS prior to the movie. Even after the movie, a couple of people did not realize it. I think he did an excellent job with the voice and I think that Doug did an excellent job with the movement of the Surfer.

[terry78]

Are we sure that when the Surfer loses his board that's Jones in prosthetics and not WETA? If it was WETA, I was like, that **** is some excellent CGI.

[Kelly]

Are we sure that when the Surfer loses his board that's Jones in prosthetics and not WETA? If it was WETA, I was like, that **** is some excellent CGI.

We are for sure, that is Doug....

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Your post about the The Movie Voice Casting God's made me think that you thought that it was dubbed by some voiceover person. I'm sure there are some who visit here that don't know everything the rest of us yahoos do.Yeah, I thought you thought that.
That has always been the great tragedy, that Chiklis was born to play The Thing and we get the pleasure of his perfect voice, wrapped in a substandard Halloween costume.

[Hellmistress]

Are you his agent? How do you have a vested interest?

Please tell me where the mixed reviews of Fisburne's work are? Other than the fanboys who even know who Doug Jones is, no one had a problem with the voice.

It is a silly argument to have. There was nothing wrong with Fishburne's voice. That doesn't undermine any of the work that Jones did.

I do Doug's official site and he's also a good friend, so I would call that a vested interest. :D

Go look at the myriad on-line reviews by a variety of different sites, newspapers, forums etc - very mixed. But that is to be expected, which is fine. I am happy that you think - as do many others here - that Mr. Fishburne did a grand job. And I have never said that Mr. Fishburne's performance undermined Doug's performance. Indeed, if you look back at my posts, I have always said that if they had to dub Doug, then Mr. Fishburne is a fine choice.

I was just curious as to whether Mr. Fishburne's casting made a whit of difference as to bums on seats, as per Fox's decision. I have neither insulted the man nor complained about his performance. This is nothing to do with the quality of the performance - I'm discussing a marketing move on Fox's part - nothing else.

HM

[Hellmistress]

no CGI here IMO

Thanks! yep - I'd agree with you there. Looks kinda Dougie-fied to me. ;)

HM

[Tony Stark]

I do Doug's official site and he's also a good friend, so I would call that a vested interest. :D

Go look at the myriad on-line reviews by a variety of different sites, newspapers, forums etc - very mixed. But that is to be expected, which is fine. I am happy that you think - as do many others here - that Mr. Fishburne did a grand job. And I have never said that Mr. Fishburne's performance undermined Doug's performance. Indeed, if you look back at my posts, I have always said that if they had to dub Doug, then Mr. Fishburne is a fine choice.

I was just curious as to whether Mr. Fishburne's casting made a whit of difference as to bums on seats, as per Fox's decision. I have neither insulted the man nor complained about his performance. This is nothing to do with the quality of the performance - I'm discussing a marketing move on Fox's part - nothing else.

HM

OK, I get where you're coming from. For me having heard Fishburne's voice, I can't immagine anyone else doing it.

Wheather it was Tim's decision or someone else's, I think it was a good decision. The Surfer has to come off as the ultimate phillosopher.

I know Kirby created the Surfer, but Kirby made him nothing more than a herald of Galactus. It was Lee who gave him the backstory, and made him the zen like phillosopher he is in the comics, and that had to be part of the character.

Again, I'm not saying Doug wouldn't have done a good job, but to me the voice had to be iconic, and I think Fishburne did a good job at that.

[Dark Spidey]

I know for the most part Silver Surfer was voiced by Lawrence Fishburne. But at the end of the movie. I am very sure that when the Surfer is confronting Galactus, his final line, it's Doug Jones' voice.

The line is something like, "I will no longer serve. This is the end, for both of us."

Anyone else catch this?

P.S Loved the movie, enjoyed it more than Spidey 3!

[Tony Stark]

There's a surfer discussion already, and no it's Fishburne's voice throughout.

[NQ-B]

Nope thats Fishburnes voice, and I think it worked perfectly for the Sufer, at first I didn't think I would be, but after seeing the movie, it was very well suited