SILVER SURFER/ Lawrence Fishburne, Doug Jones Discussion Thread [Archive] - Page 4

Kelly

06-10-2006, 07:33 PM

Nope. Sorry there is no way to get around it. Sue cannot do that. Unless they feel its okay to turn Sue into a two timing whore. :o

I have no problem with characters having their eye on Sue but if she actually ends up thinking or acting on going with another guy then heads are gonna roll.

Maybe Sue simply shows compassion for this stranger from another world....looks past the outside....as she does Ben.....and he's attracted to this beautiful compassionate woman.....why does it have to mean they mack out at all.....

The last triangle wasn't a triangle either......it was one man wanting another woman, just because......the other 2 points weren't even there....

There are so many different turns this could take....the one I described above could definitely happen....Sue doesn't have to be attracted to him....just maybe wanting to help...

Hunter Rider

06-10-2006, 07:37 PM

Maybe Sue simply shows compassion for this stranger from another world....looks past the outside....as she does Ben.....and he's attracted to this beautiful compassionate woman.....why does it have to mean they mack out at all.....

The last triangle wasn't a triangle either......it was one man wanting another woman, just because......the other 2 points weren't even there....

There are so many different turns this could take....the one I described above could definitely happen....Sue doesn't have to be attracted to him....just maybe wanting to help...

That's what i think it might be,Sue shows SS what humanity is and he recalls his past as Norrin through her,the only part that i don't like is Reed being a bit jealous but perhaps that will manifest itself as Reed being worried about Sue spending time with an entity they are not sure is to be trusted

Kelly

06-10-2006, 07:39 PM

That's what i think it might be,Sue shows SS what humanity is and he recalls his past as Norrin through her,the only part that i don't like is Reed being a bit jealous but perhaps that will manifest itself as Reed being worried about Sue spending time with an entity they are not sure is to be trusted

For some reason I think the heat between SS and Reed will be in the area of Science....not as a LOVE triangle...

Hunter Rider

06-10-2006, 07:41 PM

For some reason I think the heat between SS and Reed will be in the area of Science....not as a LOVE triangle...

I hope so because their relationship should be rock solid in the sequel IMO with no distrust between them

Carp Man

06-10-2006, 07:54 PM

I hope so because their relationship should be rock solid in the sequel IMO with no distrust between them

:up:

cerealkiller182

06-10-2006, 08:08 PM

I hate, HATE, HATE Jude Law but I think he could do this movie esp. for the Stax Reports observation of the similarities in his AI character. Whenever he was confronted with human emotions he had this blank but sad stare/facial expression that seems like he was trying to be human. A facial expression that I could see Surfer giving to Galactus when given an inhumane order.

Of course, the look of Surfer wont translate well IMO.

Logan Howlett

06-10-2006, 08:36 PM

The need to make his board cooler though, needs an updated look for the movie, or some cool way of materializing

The Geek Vault

06-10-2006, 09:11 PM

I like his board the way it is. I was thinking for the way to do surfer. Watch
X2 whem magneto pulls the iron out of the guy and is riding on it. thats what the board should look like just more board like.

Advanced Dark

06-10-2006, 09:14 PM

The need to make his board cooler though, needs an updated look for the movie, or some cool way of materializing;

It would be kind of cool if there was a relfective starfield within the board.

snuunuu

06-10-2006, 09:27 PM

if I don't see what I like, I shall be here jumping up and down in someones face.
Like a true five-year-old. :)

Carp Man

06-10-2006, 09:32 PM

Like a true five-year-old. :)

Nope like a fan who wants to stick to the original plan, which has worked for over 40 years.

Advanced Dark

06-10-2006, 09:34 PM

This is how i think SS should be done

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1236/a3sb.gifhttp://img111.imageshack.us/img111/9682/silver20surfer3vo.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

Is that from the Silver Surfer short film? I've been searching everywhere for that if it is. Where can I see the whole thing? Or is that T2???

Hunter Rider

06-10-2006, 09:35 PM

Is that from the Silver Surfer short film? I've been searching everywhere for that if it is. Where can I see the whole thing? Or is that T2???
It's T2

Hunter Rider

06-10-2006, 09:35 PM

Nope like a fan who wants to stick to the original plan, which has worked for over 40 years.

No SS has evolved over the 40 years from a visual standpoint just like all characters

Kelly

06-10-2006, 09:52 PM

No SS has evolved over the 40 years from a visual standpoint just like all characters

The characters have evolved over the 40+ years....some of the readers have not......brain wise, maturity wise.....yeah.

Carp Man

06-10-2006, 10:03 PM

The characters have evolved over the 40+ years....some of the readers have not......brain wise, maturity wise.....yeah.

Some of us want to stick to the orignal, and nothing wroung with that.You need to mature to realize there are those who resist change. Who like the original.

RedIsNotBlue

06-10-2006, 11:08 PM

Maybe Sue simply shows compassion for this stranger from another world....looks past the outside....as she does Ben.....and he's attracted to this beautiful compassionate woman.....why does it have to mean they mack out at all.....

The last triangle wasn't a triangle either......it was one man wanting another woman, just because......the other 2 points weren't even there....

There are so many different turns this could take....the one I described above could definitely happen....Sue doesn't have to be attracted to him....just maybe wanting to help...

Thats fine if it is purely sympathetic. I just dont want Sue horny for SS...is that too much to ask?

Drakon

06-10-2006, 11:58 PM

The need to make his board cooler though, needs an updated look for the movie, or some cool way of materializing

I've offered to make several superhero skins for the site for Mirko, for free.

Obi-Ron

06-11-2006, 12:09 AM

Slightly off topic - I wonder if they will introduce Frankie Raye in this movie as Johnny's love interest?

Remember the scene at the beginning of FF where Johnny kissed the girl in the convertible while he was riding a motorcycle? Supposedly the license plate of the car was "FRANKIE," but was never seen in the final cut of the movie.

MJB

06-11-2006, 02:26 AM

I'd go with wentworth Miller. Lets hope he has the time to shoot.

MJB

06-11-2006, 02:47 AM

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/2623/silversurfercbm4br.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/7355/silversurfermovie8dj.jpg http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3855/tmp46565ce.jpg
I really love this look! ^^^^^^

Notice the feet. No toes. The Surfer is covered by this metallic looking silver cosmic glaze or whatever. His skin is not Silver. Fox take notes. I like the larger picture. SS doesn't have to be huge and muscular lik the picture on the left.

MJB

06-11-2006, 02:56 AM

Is that the Ultimate SS ? If so keep it. I'll stick to the original ty.:o Love Galactus. That cover looks like an Ultimate FF fans *** dream. We shall see what we get, and if I don't see what I like, I shall be here jumping up and down in someones face.

No Carp it's a story arc that's from the 90's. I liked it. please man don't mention Ultimate Galactus/Silver Surfer. I just finished reading that Ultimate crap where Galactus is a bunch of mechanical bug looking ships. The Surfer was there and looked fine, but I didn't care for the story. They phucked it up bigtime. The only saving grace is that I suspect that those drones or ships are devices he created to gather the life energy of planets and they are connected to him while he stays at his base with the Surfer as the protector of these millions of vessels. This makes makes more sense if this is the route they are going for someomne like Galactus to use this method. I think sense the Ultimates, Xmen, and the F4 drove off the this so called galactus and they think it's over The familar one is going to show some where down the line, with the Watcher in tow. At least I'm hoping it goes down this way, cause if that was it then galactus is crap in the Ultimate universe.

Advanced Dark

06-11-2006, 03:01 AM

They won't show Galactus in this film 'cept maybe a cameo at the end. They need something to carry over to part 3. But how the hell are they going to translate Galactus to the big screen without him looking like an abortion from Krull. That's a tough image to imagine in a live action film. They're going to have to take a huge risk and leave him how he is which to me would look weird on screen...or reimagine him somehow. Otherwise he's going to look like a big Trasnformers doll floating in space, or very weird. Hopefully when Silver Surfer turns on Galactus they'll send Thanos down to take care of it. :)

gamemiester

06-11-2006, 05:50 AM

The Guy who plays Neo in Matrix I cant spell his first name

MattC

06-11-2006, 05:51 AM

Keanu Reeves :p

Hunter Rider

06-11-2006, 07:16 AM

I've offered to make several superhero skins for the site for Mirko, for free.
Can you make a Silver Surfer Smiley ?http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Carp Man

06-11-2006, 08:36 AM

No Carp it's a story arc that's from the 90's. I liked it. please man don't mention Ultimate Galactus/Silver Surfer. I just finished reading that Ultimate crap where Galactus is a bunch of mechanical bug looking ships. The Surfer was there and looked fine, but I didn't care for the story. They phucked it up bigtime. The only saving grace is that I suspect that those drones or ships are devices he created to gather the life energy of planets and they are connected to him while he stays at his base with the Surfer as the protector of these millions of vessels. This makes makes more sense if this is the route they are going for someomne like Galactus to use this method. I think sense the Ultimates, Xmen, and the F4 drove off the this so called galactus and they think it's over The familar one is going to show some where down the line, with the Watcher in tow. At least I'm hoping it goes down this way, cause if that was it then galactus is crap in the Ultimate universe.

Well if you have read any of my comments, I don't like the Ultimate anything. :down

Warhammer

06-11-2006, 09:20 AM

Silver Surfer better stay Silver for the whole movie.
No illusions, transformations, etc.

Willie Lumpkin

06-11-2006, 09:21 AM

Can you make a Silver Surfer Smiley ?http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

That would be awesome!:up:

Warhammer

06-11-2006, 09:23 AM

I like James Caviezel as Silver Surfer.

Kelly

06-11-2006, 09:24 AM

Can you make a Silver Surfer Smiley ?http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

The thing is with the smileys is that you can't get really complex with them.....I'm afraid a SS Smiley would look like a naked silver man.....which is pretty much what he is....but.....hmmmmm......ok.....make a SS Smiley:D

Drakon

06-11-2006, 12:43 PM

I can't do smileys, sorry. :(

Rac

06-11-2006, 01:21 PM

I don't like it,thats not Silver Surfer

Oh, please no!

gamemiester

06-11-2006, 02:20 PM

lol thats the one i just couldnt spell it

Kelly

06-11-2006, 02:21 PM

I love James Caviezel period....If they could get him I'd have 3 of my favs in this movie.....wow.

Hunter Rider

06-11-2006, 02:59 PM

I love James Caviezel period....If they could get him I'd have 3 of my favs in this movie.....wow.

If he gets cast you'll be wanting the naked spray paint idea used i take it ?http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Kelly

06-11-2006, 03:10 PM

If he gets cast you'll be wanting the naked spray paint idea used i take it ?http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Only if I can get that job.....:o

Advanced Dark

06-11-2006, 03:34 PM

There's been some talk in the forum that SS may well be able to turn his silver look on and off especially given the rumoured love triangle with Sue
I can see this as a distinct posibility given that they would probably want to cast a hunky actor and not use as much CGI this way
How would you feel about this ?

I didn't see that comment before. That would be weird and something to ask Tim Story about. I don't think that's a good idea. However I'm not opposed to his origin being changed for the movies. Maybe an ex of Sue's that went missing years ago and was never found only to come back into her life as the Surfer but how could she fall in love with him without him turning back and forth. Stupid if they do that.

Kelly

06-11-2006, 03:43 PM

I didn't see that comment before. That would be weird and something to ask Tim Story about. I don't think that's a good idea. However I'm not opposed to his origin being changed for the movies. Maybe an ex of Sue's that went missing years ago and was never found only to come back into her life as the Surfer but how could she fall in love with him without him turning back and forth. Stupid if they do that.

Why does she even have to be attracted to him...what if she just wants to help this sad guy from another world....maybe the attraction is for her and not vice versa....thats pretty much what we had the last time....well actually lastime we didn't have an attraction on either side...but in this case I could see him being attracted to this beautiful, compassionate, young woman that has a power very similar to his as far as gliding....doesn't seem too far fetched...

Advanced Dark

06-11-2006, 04:51 PM

Kelly

06-11-2006, 05:59 PM

^ I hope it's not true and if it is they better figure out a way to make sense. I don't believe it because if Sue Storm is pregnant in this film or get's married. I think she's full of it talking about a love triangle.

They had one last time, and she was a part of it...except only as a trophy for one....so again, why couldn't they do it like I said, she still loves Reed she still gets pregnant, and thats what the triangle is all about....???

You act like she has to fall in love with another guy for it to be a triangle....and we already know that doesn't have to happen....we just saw it...

Advanced Dark

06-11-2006, 06:11 PM

They had one last time, and she was a part of it...except only as a trophy for one....so again, why couldn't they do it like I said, she still loves Reed she still gets pregnant, and thats what the triangle is all about....???

You act like she has to fall in love with another guy for it to be a triangle....and we already know that doesn't have to happen....we just saw it...

I'm not acting like anything but that's usually the case with a triangle unless she's referring to her baby. BTW how old is the Surfer supposed to be? She kept referring to him as "boy" and she's not that old herself.

Kelly

06-11-2006, 06:13 PM

I'm not acting like anything but that's usually the case with a triangle unless she's referring to her baby. BTW how old is the Surfer supposed to be? She kept referring to him as "boy" and she's not that old herself.

Probably simply used as a generic term...meaning absolutely nothing...and it wasn't the case in the first F4 movie.

Dragon

06-11-2006, 06:26 PM

Silver on... :rolleyes:

Dragon

06-11-2006, 06:31 PM

Notice the feet. No toes. The Surfer is covered by this metallic looking silver cosmic glaze or whatever. His skin is not Silver. Fox take notes. I like the larger picture. SS doesn't have to be huge and muscular lik the picture on the left.

They should have an actor play the surfer, and for the have him wear the green screen paint. Then in post they apply a silvery reflective metallic sheen to his body, similar to the T-1000 in liquid metal form.

Kelly

06-11-2006, 06:35 PM

They should have an actor play the surfer, and for the have him wear the green screen paint. Then in post they apply a silvery reflective metallic sheen to his body, similar to the T-1000 in liquid metal form.

Thats a possibility, but they don't necessarily have to do that with post. Its possible that this time around they will be doing alot of the cgi during the actual filming. My hope is that is what they've been working on in Vancouver since they are already there.

Hunter Rider

06-11-2006, 06:53 PM

Silver on... :rolleyes:

Hey it was a play on words:mad: :p

Advanced Dark

06-11-2006, 07:08 PM

I think there should be sort of a star field within the silver kind of in 3d. Kind of cosmic looking. I can't describe what I'm thinking better than that.

Dragon

06-11-2006, 07:57 PM

I think there should be sort of a star field within the silver kind of in 3d. Kind of cosmic looking. I can't describe what I'm thinking better than that.

I know what you mean, Kirby and Buscema did that with him in some of the comics. It would cool at points, such as when he was using his powers or perhaps describing his origin, but might be distracting if it were happening too often.

Advanced Dark

06-11-2006, 07:59 PM

I agree.

Dragon

06-11-2006, 08:01 PM

Hey it was a play on words:mad: :p

I know.. I was mostly joking...

PWN3R

06-11-2006, 08:18 PM

SS is not Colossus. Please keep him in his true form.

:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

Man, they better NOT do this, they screwed up Doom enough, please leave SS alone. :(

Advanced Dark

06-11-2006, 08:22 PM

I don't think they screwed up Doom at all. We never saw Doom. We saw his origin and how he came to be the character we'll see in the next film. Why so many people expected Dr. Doom to appear in full in the first Fantastic Four film, have him have full materly of his powers, a huge evil empire, and hordes of doombots is amazing. The movie didn't take place over a span of years...it was merely a week or two...if that. The Fantastic Four lacked in other ways but I enjoyed the battle with the pre-Doom as I call him in the first film enough to buy a ticket for the second.

Hunter Rider

06-11-2006, 08:29 PM

I thought they botched his origin personally,the route they took to make him Doom with organics was a bad move from moment one IMO

PWN3R

06-11-2006, 08:31 PM

Doom was my main problem with the movie. :(

Kelly

06-11-2006, 09:06 PM

Doom was my main problem with the movie. :(

Well you are certainly not alone....

PWN3R

06-11-2006, 09:08 PM

^^^ROFL!

I get your sig now! fishhead.....

:D :up:

Kelly

06-11-2006, 09:24 PM

^^^ROFL!

I get your sig now! fishhead.....

:D :up:

Hands PWN a cookie....lol:up: :)

gerbstat

06-11-2006, 09:34 PM

http://members.aol.com/gerbstat/sanitized.jpg

Advanced Dark

06-11-2006, 10:11 PM

I don't think it'll be Keanu. He's looking kind of old to me now and it would be too stereotypical. Who's the blonde pro surfer guy?

Oh yeah this guy: http://www.lairdhamilton.com

http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/flipbooks/img/movies/production_stills/r/riding_giants/240x320_4.jpg

MJB

06-12-2006, 01:35 AM

Maybe an ex of Sue's that went missing years ago and was never found only to come back into her life as the Surfer but how could she fall in love with him without him turning back and forth. Stupid if they do that.

Man I respect you, but DO NOT GIVE THEM PIN HEADS AT FOX ANY IDEAS. The SS is an Alien and have NO CONNECTION TO EARTH WHAT SO EVER!!!! Jebus H Christ man don't ever say anything like that. That would ruin it for me and if i even hear of some lame as crap like that I WILL NOT SEE THIS MOVIE. What is so hard about a simple adaption? The SS is fine as is, he needs no changing. The only change i would accept honestly is having a well done CGI Surfer in action and him Silvering off in non action. Also since he's Alien why in the wirld would he be called the Silver Surfer? I say let Ben name him or the Earth media.

The Surfer shouldn't be in a love triangle anyway, seeing as he has NO EMOTIONS BECAUSE THEY WERE SURPRESSED BY GALACTUS. They didn't start to return until Alicia Masters woke up a spark of his humanity.

MJB

06-12-2006, 01:46 AM

I'm sure who ever is cast as the SS it's going to be someone out of left field. We won't see it coming. I really liked the casting of everyone for the most part in the F4. I was dead set against Alba, but after seeing footage and the movie she's fine to me. Evans was great casting for me as well as Ioan Gruffod or however you spell his name. i was quite happy with Mcmahon as Doom, and the only reason I didn't ****** about Chiklis as Ben is because i like him and the shield, but truth be told he wasn't the best casting for The Thing. i read that Angel/David Bor whatever was up for the role, but the studio went with Chiklis. After finding that out i would have liked him over chiklis. At least he's 6'3 and would have been taller and bigger in make up, and he has a brow already, and he's a decent actor.

Dynasty

06-12-2006, 04:03 AM

"I'm sure who ever is cast as the SS it's going to be someone out of left field. We won't see it coming."

So true. Though weirder things have been known to happen.

Kelly

06-12-2006, 06:29 AM

Man I respect you, but DO NOT GIVE THEM PIN HEADS AT FOX ANY IDEAS. The SS is an Alien and have NO CONNECTION TO EARTH WHAT SO EVER!!!! Jebus H Christ man don't ever say anything like that. That would ruin it for me and if i even hear of some lame as crap like that I WILL NOT SEE THIS MOVIE. What is so hard about a simple adaption? The SS is fine as is, he needs no changing. The only change i would accept honestly is having a well done CGI Surfer in action and him Silvering off in non action. Also since he's Alien why in the wirld would he be called the Silver Surfer? I say let Ben name him or the Earth media.

The Surfer shouldn't be in a love triangle anyway, seeing as he has NO EMOTIONS BECAUSE THEY WERE SURPRESSED BY GALACTUS. They didn't start to return until Alicia Masters woke up a spark of his humanity.

Ummmm yeah...thats what I've been saying, it won't be Alicia but it doesn't have to be some love trist between the 2 either....it may be a one-sided thing where he begins to feel something for this human that is showing him compassion that no one else has...it doesn't have to be mad passionate love where they go off with each other and Reed catches them......:o

Rac

06-12-2006, 08:53 AM

I don't think it'll be Keanu. He's looking kind of old to me now and it would be too stereotypical.
Eh, you wouldn't see Keanu 'cause of the silver CGI. It could be anyone.

Andy Serkis for SS! (Speak about typecasting...)

Dragon

06-12-2006, 09:29 AM

Also since he's Alien why in the wirld would he be called the Silver Surfer? I say let Ben name him or the Earth media.

Tha'ts really not that hard to grasp. His skin is silver and his mode of travel is surfing the space currents. Even on alien worlds the concept of surfing could exist. And The Watcher is the one that makes us aware of his name. Certainly on other worlds the name would be translated into their dialects, but it isn't as if he couldn't be called the Silver Surfer.

haephestus

06-12-2006, 08:38 PM

Not sure.

Maybe if they worked it into the movie storyline somehow?

Eg, when he is de-powered by Doom (if this happens) then whatever is left of his "body" instantly takes the common human form of the current planet, leaving him with a regular human body.

So, for all his time with the FF while they work together to retrieve the SS powers (questioning whether they even should given his role) and while SS and Sue are making googly eyes, he would be "human" then his powers are returned for the final act and he re-gains his traditional appearance?

The turning on/off doesn't make much sense. Unless they had the SS deliberately take human form when he arrives on earth to covertly assess the planet, then in this form he is de-powered by Doom and left a human?

I guess it could work in terms of storyline, but a strict on/off wouldn't make much sense.

Cheers.

Kelly

06-12-2006, 08:40 PM

Logan Howlett

06-12-2006, 08:44 PM

Wizzard said that Vin Deisel might play him.......any truth to that?

Kelly

06-12-2006, 08:45 PM

Wizzard said that Vin Deisel might play him.......any truth to that?

Hmmmmm....

Dragon

06-12-2006, 10:04 PM

Wizzard said that Vin Deisel might play him.......any truth to that?

Let's hope not. I'd really hate to see Norrin Radd standing around with his tongue sticking out like a dope.

Malus

06-12-2006, 10:30 PM

thats what I've been saying, it won't be Alicia but it doesn't have to be some love trist between the 2 either....it may be a one-sided thing where he begins to feel something for this human that is showing him compassion that no one else has...it doesn't have to be mad passionate love where they go off with each other and Reed catches them...

Exactly. Reed will feel threatened, but that's it; just like Ben was in the original story. I do hope they're planning to further develop Alicia in this film, but I can't see them throwing all those big scenes with the Surfer to a character we've barely met.
That kind of change I can live with.
But having the Silver Surfer go back and forth from cosmic to human? Absolutely not.
There's no rational reason for it. There's nothing about SS that needs fixing. I think portraying him just as he was in FF #48-50 is essential to this movie working.

Then again, I'm all for having H.E.R.B.I.E floating around the lab in the background, assisting Reed, or bumping into a grouchy Thing... Just don't let H.E.R.B.I.E out of that setting, and I think he would be a nice bit of comic relief. (And now I'll take cover...)

Logan Howlett

06-12-2006, 10:35 PM

Let's hope not. I'd really hate to see Norrin Radd standing around with his tongue sticking out like a dope.

I dono, I think Vin might be able to pull it off.

anaque

06-13-2006, 03:34 PM

Hey y'all...here is Miller as Norrin Radd/ the Silver Surfer
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1822/silversurfer7fc.gif

Matt312

06-13-2006, 04:23 PM

I think Wentworth has a good shot to be Surfer

Wilhelm-Scream

06-13-2006, 04:24 PM

I...I feel like I've been reading different Fantastic Four comics than the ones the rest of the world got.:confused:

It's like the people making the movie and the fans of the movie put the comics in a homemade still, condensed everything cool about the comics, collected it in a jug and poured it down the toilet, and then bottled whatever was left and called it "The Fantastic Four".

I....what a nightmare.:down I feel like I'm Donald Sutherland in Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

GL's Light

06-13-2006, 04:28 PM

I think Wentworth has a good shot to be Surfer
I think his television shooting schedule would prevent him from taking the part.

Spider - Man

06-13-2006, 04:37 PM

Instead of having a temper tantrum why don't you e-mail Tim Story and suggest this. I have a feeling though after the events of FF2 and FF3 they'll do a Silver Surfer origin film to address everything else. Not every franchise has to start with the origin for it to be successful. Of course it needs to be done right. So go to myspace and join up if you haven't already and e-mail Tim Story one time. Make up a list of your concerns and send it to him. He said he'd read them all...though he might not respond to them.

That rant didn't have to do with his origin, it had to do with the subject of the thread. Galactus encased him in the silver substance so he can't "silver on and off" or shouldn't be able to anyway. I don't think emailing Story would do a bit of good. If they make this change in FF2 it will be because Fox wants it.

The Apatow Crew

06-13-2006, 04:43 PM

I think his television shooting schedule would prevent him from taking the part.Yeah that's what i was gonna say.

Spider - Man

06-13-2006, 04:47 PM

Wilhelm-Scream

06-13-2006, 05:50 PM

at least I'm not alone.:(

Maybe someday a miracle will happen, like it did for Batman and Spider-Man.

But this, even accepting the idea of SS's silver being an on/off power, and...even considering Vin Diesel just because he's bald...he's not right for it at ALL...and, love triangle shmove triangle....whew

Advanced Dark

06-13-2006, 05:52 PM

^ I could see them using Vin Diesels body for motion capture but his voice doesn't fit. He's have to pull off a miracle. Maybe they could use him for Jigsaw in Punisher 2 which is a stretch as it is. The Rock who I can't stand has the voice but he would look just too awkward surfing the stars. The SS needs to NOT be a personality.

SHF

06-13-2006, 06:03 PM

I highly doubt most of the actors mentioned here would be interested being in a Fantastic Four movie just seems like it would be a step down for them. FF isnt exacly a respectable comic book movie.

I liked the movie but I knew it was just gonna be pop corn flick that cant be taken seriously. Im still unsure about them casting Alba shes great and all but as Sue Storm??? I mean they shoulda at least casted someone with the same skin tone as her for Johnny Storm since their brother and sister.

But Chris Evans was a good Johnny!

I think Wentworth would however make a good Silver Surfer, he does have the look. But I think he might be getting to big of a star.

Kelly

06-13-2006, 06:15 PM

Hmmmmm.....nope I think if he could Wentworth and many other actors would jump at this movie. Just because you didn't like the movie, and see it as not a respectable comic book movie. (BTW, I would probably agree with some of your problems with the movie) many, many ot hers enjoyed the movie. It did extremely well for a comic franchise not that well known among the masses. The sequel I'm sure will do well also. Just my opinion, but I disagree, I think many actors would jump at the chance, and many "big names" as well. We shall see, considering I have a feeling the choice has already been made. Just waiting for their choice...

Dragon

06-13-2006, 06:20 PM

Exactly. Reed will feel threatened, but that's it;

But it's redundant. And it does Reed no good as a character to be constantly jealous over Sue. It does Sue no good to come off as a fickle b*tch who can't make her feelings clear to Reed. It does the relationship no good to constantly be on shakey ground. It does the Surfer no good to be a lovesick puppy (Note- he didn't have romantic feelings for Alicia, despite what Ben felt. And a good part of Ben's jealousy was his own insecurity about his appearance. Reed doesn't suffer from such problems).

There's so much more to the Galactus story than a silly love triangle. the fact that this is what the crew zeroes on, in the midst of an epic story about the end of the world says their focus is shallow and very faulty. If anything, with the FF defeated and the end appearing imminent, Sue should be making Reed feel the true depth of her love for him. Not making him him feel jealous.

Logan Howlett

06-13-2006, 06:22 PM

agreed.

Kelly

06-13-2006, 06:25 PM

I still think we are reading....WAY TOO MUCH INTO THIS.....

Matt312

06-13-2006, 06:28 PM

I agree with JMAfan. I think wentworth would do it. And it would have a chance for a Silver Surfer spin off.

Kelly

06-13-2006, 06:36 PM

Considering "Prison Break" is a 20th Century Fox TV show......maybe they would give him the same break shooting wise that they gave Chiklis and McMahon in the first go around.....doesn't seem too far fetched since they've done it for 2 previously. Wow, I didn't realize that Wentworth is as old as he is....not that 34 is old...but still I would have never guessed him to be that age...

Advanced Dark

06-13-2006, 06:44 PM

^ Unless Sue is trying to trick the Surfer so he'll let his guard down. :)

The Apatow Crew

06-13-2006, 06:56 PM

DAMN! He's 34! i thought he was in his late 20's.

Ricky_Tan

06-13-2006, 07:01 PM

wentworth is perfect. he has the voice, ice blue eyes, educated from princeton, cant get any better than that!

The Apatow Crew

06-13-2006, 07:04 PM

Did everyone know he was the voice of the plane in Stealth?

Kelly

06-13-2006, 07:14 PM

wentworth is perfect. he has the voice, ice blue eyes, educated from princeton, cant get any better than that!

Actually he has one green eye and one hazel eye....

GL's Light

06-13-2006, 07:18 PM

Considering "Prison Break" is a 20th Century Fox TV show......maybe they would give him the same break shooting wise that they gave Chiklis and McMahon in the first go around.....doesn't seem too far fetched since they've done it for 2 previously.
Maybe so. Although a network series aiming to produce 22 episodes would have much less leeway for time off than a cable series with a shorter episode run.

Kelly

06-13-2006, 07:26 PM

Maybe so. Although a network series aiming to produce 22 episodes would have much less leeway for time off than a cable series with a shorter episode run.

True.....13 -- 16 episodes is different than 22, BUT I think ALOT of his stuff is CGI, much of it could be done via computer....get his greenscreen stuff done....ACTUALLY they could be working on that already....and then work around his schedule for any other stuff......

I think he's worth working with....

GL's Light

06-13-2006, 07:31 PM

True.....13 -- 16 episodes is different than 22, BUT I think ALOT of his stuff is CGI, much of it could be done via computer....get his greenscreen stuff done....ACTUALLY they could be working on that already....and then work around his schedule for any other stuff......

I think he's worth working with....
If they go with a SS that's mostly created by CGI then Miller would have a better chance of fitting it into his schedule. But if SS is a guy in a suit the part will take much longer to film. Do we have confirmation of which approach they're using?

Kelly

06-13-2006, 07:34 PM

If they go with a SS that's mostly created by CGI then Miller would have a better chance of fitting it into his schedule. But if SS is a guy in a suit the part will take much longer to film. Do we have confirmation of which approach they're using?

Hell of alot of speculation and drama....lol.....no confirmation.

surfergirl

06-13-2006, 07:45 PM

I still think we are reading....WAY TOO MUCH INTO THIS.....

^agreed i'm waiting until more information is available

Hunter Rider

06-13-2006, 07:49 PM

Hey y'all...here is Miller as Norrin Radd/ the Silver Surfer
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1822/silversurfer7fc.gif

I Love this,great work and welcome to the hype:) :up:

The Apatow Crew

06-13-2006, 07:53 PM

Like they said it before would make sense. since three of the five have came from fox produced shows. Jess - Dark Angel. Julain - Nip/Tuck and Mike - The Shield.

Willie Lumpkin

06-13-2006, 08:48 PM

Hey y'all...here is Miller as Norrin Radd/ the Silver Surfer
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1822/silversurfer7fc.gif

Cool!:up:

And not to downplay your effort, but that illustrates how easily The surfer's look can be done. I don't think he's nearly as difficult as the other characters.

Welcome!

Franklin Richards

06-13-2006, 08:49 PM

You know. I had a little bit of a problem with Iceman <iced up> and Collossus. I hope they use those effects to learn from their mistakes and make a kick arse Surfer.

:thing: :doom: :thing:

Willie Lumpkin

06-13-2006, 09:14 PM

You know. I had a little bit of a problem with Iceman <iced up> and Collossus. I hope they use those effects to learn from their mistakes and make a kick arse Surfer.

:thing: :doom: :thing:

I didn't see enough of them to judge the effects. LOL

That's my biggest problem with the FF and X-Men. We've spent the last 40 years seeing these incredible visuals on the comic pages, but then we only get very brief glimpses of watered down versions in the films.

While I'm not a huge fan of George Lucas' directing, after seeing what he created in the Star Wars films, I'd love to see what he could do with a comic based film (with current tecnology - let's not bring back Howard the Duck:o )

Retroman

06-14-2006, 12:59 AM

Remember the scene at the beginning of FF where Johnny kissed the girl in the convertible while he was riding a motorcycle? Supposedly the license plate of the car was "FRANKIE," but was never seen in the final cut of the movie.
I didn't know that. Thanks.

Wilhelm-Scream

06-14-2006, 01:49 AM

MJB

06-14-2006, 02:38 AM

oh god, that's what everyone was saying before the FIRST craptacular abomination came out.

I'm sure Story and his ilk will do their utmost to crush Kirby and the dreams of all of his fans aGAIN. They have a taste for it now.:(

I'll bet you $50 bucks. Seriously.

I don't think it's fair to blame Story, cause he's a capable director, but for material like the f4 the jury is out on how creative he is because he was there for one purpose and that was to shoot the movie. Story had little imput, i don't care what he says. The F4 was a film put together by a committe of Fox execs to be a formula to make some cash of the Superhero film craze that is going on in Hollywood.

If Story was truly a fan of the comic, then the bothersome line in the movie for me wouldn't and shouldn't have seen the light of day. It's when Ben is back in his Rock form at the end and reed tells him he can still configure the Cosmic chamber to turn him back, and Ben says "HE FINE AS IS?" WHAT THE PHUCK?? There has been many rectons to the f4 and one thing remained constant and it was that reed could not cure Ben and he was guilt ridden over it, and despite Grimm adjusting to his rocky form, he does want to be cured. That right there just killed the entire movie for.

The FOX execs will do everyhting to crush Kirby's creations because of their unwillingness to commit a decent budget, take their time, and hire a director and writer who have some imagination and will adapt the movie and make changes that are needed but still sticking to the soruce material.

I really don't expect much creativity or a well written movie in the 2nd outing. My only hope is that Fox execs baulk at the price tag to do the Surfer and they scrape him and Galactus, letting them remain in the comics where they will not be horriably raped and changed for god knows whatever reasons that FOX gives. It's obvious that FOX isn't going to listen to the fans because the majority of their profits will come from the mainstream non comic fans. In typical logic there thinking is that we didn't listen to fans and all their complaints and we still made money.

So yeah we can Make the Surfer an exflame of Sue's who was disappeared in a shuttle mission and galactus will be the captain of the mission. all the crew died except the Cap and sue's old flame and they were exposed to the same cosmic cloud, but the guy who becomes Galactus was exposed a really long time. The phuck ups and raping possiabilites are endless concerning the SS/Galactus, but one thing will be a 100 percent certain and that is the Silver Surfer and Galactus will be the characters in NAME ONLY.

MJB

06-14-2006, 02:49 AM

I didn't see enough of them to judge the effects. LOL

That's my biggest problem with the FF and X-Men. We've spent the last 40 years seeing these incredible visuals on the comic pages, but then we only get very brief glimpses of watered down versions in the films.

While I'm not a huge fan of George Lucas' directing, after seeing what he created in the Star Wars films, I'd love to see what he could do with a comic based film (with current tecnology - let's not bring back Howard the Duck:o )

Agreed! While Iceman was decent, collosses was terriable, and i'm glad the shots of him was quick.

iceberg325

06-14-2006, 09:34 AM

Agreed! While Iceman was decent, collosses was terriable, and i'm glad the shots of him was quick.

Yeah collossus was bad. He looked much better in X2. I wanted to see iceman do the damn iceslide.

Wilhelm-Scream

06-14-2006, 11:57 AM

It's when Ben is back in his Rock form at the end and reed tells him he can still configure the Cosmic chamber to turn him back, and Ben says "HE FINE AS IS?"

GAWD, I know!
What the holy.....?

That reminded me of compulsive liars who'll lie about something even when they know they'll get caught and they stand to gain nothing from the lie.

'Cause...it's like they actively put that in just to be retarded.:confused:
It would've been no problem at all just to have some comicbook mumbo jumbo about the device being destroyed or the change being irreversible for some reason.

The THING would NEVER NEVER NEVER say "I'm good as is."
His whole freaking THING is that he longs to be normal, to be able to feel Alicia's soft skin on his own, to never be stared at and ridiculed like a freak...to be able to pick a ring up off the street...

Jesus that was offensively stupid.lol
Haven't thought of that part in quite a while, thanks for poisoning my brain today.lol

fantastic fifth

06-14-2006, 12:28 PM

Ben should have said something like "we'll talk about that later Stretcho, right now...let's clobber Doom!"

Spider - Man

06-14-2006, 01:22 PM

Ben should have said something like "we'll talk about that later Stretcho, right now...let's clobber Doom!"

I think as Reed delivered his line Ben should have looked hopeful then hung his head with a gravelly sigh at which point Alicia snuggled up to him to comfort him. That would habve made for a more heartfelt moment - which was sorely lacking from that film.

Carp Man

06-14-2006, 01:40 PM

I think as Reed delivered his line Ben should have looked hopeful then hung his head with a gravelly sigh at which point Alicia snuggled up to him to comfort him. That would habve made for a more heartfelt moment - which was sorely lacking from that film.

If we want to remain true to the comic. What should have happend is. The one time The Thing did turn back to Ben, Reed told him that once he changed back to Ben Grimm, if he ever became The Thing again, he would never be able to be Ben Grimm again. It was 1 way, 1 time. Next issue when he and Alecia we're in the restaurant, and the skrull, who was looking for The Wizzard, and was tracking him thru The Wizzrds gloves, which Ben had with him at the restraunt, came busting into the restarunt, and Ben used The Wizzards gloves to become The Thing again. So he was stuck forever being The Thing. That's the kind of scierno they should have used.

Willie Lumpkin

06-14-2006, 02:31 PM

I think the "I'm fine as is" line was included for one simple reason - to give us a happy ending.

If they hadn't put that line in, the audience would have thought: "So they got rid of Doom, big deal, the real conflict was that Ben is horribly disfigured and that's still unresolved."

If I had anything to say about it, I wouldn't have done it that way, but I think that's the logic behind it.

With that in mind, there's no reason that little line has to tie their hands. That simple line isn't going to prevent good film-makers from re-visiting the issue if they choose to . . . and, again, if I had anything to say about it, they would choose to.

Wilhelm-Scream

06-14-2006, 03:28 PM

I think the "I'm fine as is" line was included for one simple reason - to give us a happy ending.Yes, and a great example of why a film like Spider-Man is so far superior to F4. It had a melancholy ending in that Peter Parker had "found his calling" as Spider-Man, but broken-heartedly had to lie to Mary Jane by saying that he didn't love her.

Now THAT was a movie, Fox/Frost/Story dunces.:down

The Geek Vault

06-14-2006, 08:13 PM

I'm tellin ya Surfer is a being of pure energy thats why he doesn't eat or sleep.

Lightning Strykez!

06-14-2006, 08:58 PM

I still think we are reading....WAY TOO MUCH INTO THIS.....

I think you may be right. ;)

Kelly

06-14-2006, 09:10 PM

I think you may be right. ;)

And that has never happened around here.....lol

Lightning Strykez!

06-14-2006, 09:22 PM

And that has never happened around here.....lol

:D The hell it hasn't. LOL

But I did vote on this poll...and I have to admit...the concept is terrible in my opinion. Why can't they just--for once--interpret ONE character as is from the canon? :o

Kelly

06-14-2006, 09:27 PM

:D The hell it hasn't. LOL

But I did vote on this poll...and I have to admit...the concept is terrible in my opinion. Why can't they just--for once--interpret ONE character as is from the canon? :o

Hmmmmmmmm.......I recall a statement like that on another subject back in Summer 2004......look what happened with that.....:cool: ;)

Lightning Strykez!

06-15-2006, 10:57 AM

Hmmmmmmmm.......I recall a statement like that on another subject back in Summer 2004......look what happened with that.....:cool: ;)

MEH.:o :p

Seriously though...this is a bad idea. It's just a departure that isn't necessary. Just for once I'd like to see FOX & Co. translate something faithfully from the comics instead of inserting an "INO" flavor into it. Silver Surfer is cool just the way he is. He doesn't need adaptation...and if they think he does they shouldn't touch the character then.

And Vin Diesel is a terrible choice for the role too. Please, do not go for the dumbed-down approach--the Surfer is incredibly intelligent, dignified, impressive. He has a certain presence and Vin Diesel--though I love the actor's aesthetic look for the role--is simply not it.

If they want Namor in this film they need to work it out with Universal (or whatever studio has the rights) and get him. If they can't do it, LEAVE IT ALONE. Get another concept. We don't have to have another love triangle! :mad:

*breathes*

End rant!

MJB

06-15-2006, 01:32 PM

MEH.:o :p

Seriously though...this is a bad idea. It's just a departure that isn't necessary. Just for once I'd like to see FOX & Co. translate something faithfully from the comics instead of inserting an "INO" flavor into it. Silver Surfer is cool just the way he is. He doesn't need adaptation...and if they think he does they shouldn't touch the character then.

And Vin Diesel is a terrible choice for the role too. Please, do not go for the dumbed-down approach--the Surfer is incredibly intelligent, dignified, impressive. He has a certain presence and Vin Diesel--though I love the actor's aesthetic look for the role--is simply not it.

If they want Namor in this film they need to work it out with Universal (or whatever studio has the rights) and get him. If they can't do it, LEAVE IT ALONE. Get another concept. We don't have to have another love triangle! :mad:

*breathes*

End rant!

Agreed:up: . I doubt they'll be able to get the rights or that a stduio is going to share the rights to the characters they have. I say use the Inhumans or the frightful four, but that's also depending on if those characters aren't already at another studio. I think FOX wants to adapt the SS cause he's already their property. I just don't fathom why they are hell bent on making changes. The SS in a love Triangle reeks of been there and done that and it's also totally out of his character. The Surfer was always detached more or so from humanity and always stumbled across galactic events where he must be the hero. The Surfer was rarly showed involved with a woman, he just didn't have all that drama going on. I think it's a little to late to be trying to give him human relevence and emotion. The man is not human and even when he was humanoid I got the impression that even then the race he was from wasn't big at expressing emotions. They seemed more sceintific in nature.

Fox isn't going to listen, cause going by what Alba said it appears they want to use him in place of Namor and go ahead with this triangle mess. These guys just never learn. They keep pulling these bad moves cause the general public knows nothing about the characters and they give FOX their big opening weekend and they make some money. I just don't know why Marvel at leadst puts it foot down and go, this is not what the SS is about. It's out of character. We the fans just can't win and get a good faithful adaption.

zeptron

06-20-2006, 06:22 PM

I didn't see this posted anywhere.

http://picsmcgee.com/albums/Licensing%202006/normal_DSC00920.JPG

Morg

06-20-2006, 06:25 PM

why are they using the same pics from the first movie?

Hunter Rider

06-20-2006, 06:27 PM

why are they using the same pics from the first movie?

I smell manipery:confused:

Kelly

06-20-2006, 06:54 PM

hell the manip i posted on the MANIP thread is better than this one...lol

smcbride2001

06-20-2006, 07:23 PM

Well, it's not fake. It's a photo from the 2006 Licensing Show. I assume they are re-using pics from the first movie because filiming has not yet begun for the sequel?

Willie Lumpkin

06-20-2006, 07:35 PM

So is that the title?

lordofthenerds

06-20-2006, 07:35 PM

You beat me to it. Its from here btw.
http://picsmcgee.com/index.php

smcbride2001

06-20-2006, 07:36 PM

So is that the title?

It looks that way. They usually don't change titles after the Licensing Show. I like that title better than "Fantastic 4-2"

blind_fury

06-20-2006, 07:37 PM

Damn! There goes my hopes for a stand alone Surfer flick by REAL writers and directors.

Hunter Rider

06-20-2006, 07:41 PM

Damn! There goes my hopes for a stand alone Surfer flick by REAL writers and directors.

How does that poster make you feel that ?:confused:

lordofthenerds

06-20-2006, 07:44 PM

How does that poster make you feel that ?:confused:
Because it shows that the Silver Surfer will be thrown in and wasted in FF2.

zer00

06-20-2006, 07:48 PM

huh interesting.

Hunter Rider

06-20-2006, 07:49 PM

Because it shows that the Silver Surfer will be thrown in and wasted in FF2.

Well we don't know he will be wasted and the fact SS is in the sequel has been known for ages now so the poster is not a shock

zer00

06-20-2006, 07:52 PM

Because it shows that the Silver Surfer will be thrown in and wasted in FF2.

The knowledge just oozes from you guys. I mean you guys really sound like you're using sense and keeping your head and not going on fanboy rants with no point and yelling from the other side of a brick wall at all. I'm impressed.

-If I just got shot in my cerebral cortex

lordofthenerds

06-20-2006, 07:57 PM

The knowledge just oozes from you guys. I mean you guys really sound like you're using sense and keeping your head and not going on fanboy rants with no point and yelling from the other side of a brick wall at all. I'm impressed.

-If I just got shot in my cerebral cortex
ummm thanks. :up:

blind_fury

06-20-2006, 08:05 PM

Spider - Man

06-20-2006, 08:16 PM

Anyone know links to official copies of those old pics?

Kelly

06-20-2006, 08:31 PM

Meh to the poster.....double meh to the title.

zer00

06-20-2006, 08:36 PM

I wouldn't really call it a poster:o I mean the last Iron Man poster at the liscensing show was just a comic cover.

Hard to say if the title is final even if it is at the show. Might just be a placeholder to advertise what it's about a bit. If it is the title...eck. Jesus is Starfire and Spiderman going to show up with the Incredible Hulk and have a ****ing picnic with the FF and Surfer?

liesse00

06-20-2006, 09:03 PM

Tissues

06-20-2006, 09:45 PM

That would be a terrible title..

Kelly

06-20-2006, 09:49 PM

Malus

06-20-2006, 10:02 PM

Use your entire brain Zer00. Not just the "defend really crappy movies" part of the brain. The title on the poster says "Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer". It's a title like "Batman and Robin". Silver Surfer isn't just going to make a cameo, he's going to be a major character in the film. That means the same guys who ruined Dr.Doom the first time are going to ruin the Silver Surfer this time thereby destroying all chances for a spin-off. Do the math "einstien".

This movie's a year away and already with the name-calling.
(Yeah, "Einstein" is name-calling.)
And by the way... you misspelled "Einstein," Einstein. ;)

(Anyone else reminded of that scene in Young Frankenstein?)

I really doubt this is the final title for the movie. I think this is to publicize the fact that the Surfer's long-awaited film debut is coming.

Many fans feel that the Surfer's rightful place (at least for his initial appearance) is in an FF film. He was born in the pages of FF, and he belongs first and foremost in an FF movie.

Just my opinion.

Kelly

06-20-2006, 10:06 PM

This movie's a year away and already with the name-calling.
(Yeah, "Einstein" is name-calling.)
And by the way... you misspelled "Einstein," Einstein. ;)

(Anyone else reminded of that scene in Young Frankenstein?)

I really doubt this is the final title for the movie. I think this is to publicize the fact that the Surfer's long-awaited film debut is coming.

Many fans feel that the Surfer's rightful place (at least for his initial appearance) is in an FF film. He was born in the pages of FF, and he belongs first and foremost in an FF movie.

Just my opinion.

LMAO...yeah....BF is starting early this go around...

edit: Dang it why didn' I see that.....*snaps*..I'm the teacher I have the red pen.....

MBU

06-20-2006, 10:32 PM

Couldn't they just simply come up with a new logo for the next Movie & then say & the Silver Surfer ? Lazy FOX bastards

Kelly

06-20-2006, 10:35 PM

Couldn't they just simply come up with a new logo for the next Movie & then say & the Silver Surfer ? Lazy FOX bastards

Great 2nd post...lol

Retroman

06-21-2006, 01:49 AM

It's from the Licensing show in NY. (I guess)They're using that title and poster just to get the attention of potential sponsers.We're less than 2 months away from the start of principal photography.

zer00

06-21-2006, 04:16 AM

Casius--J

06-21-2006, 08:18 AM

Yeah i guess its just to get some early attention for the movie, my guess is they wont keep this title.

And of course they wont have any new pictures, they havent begun filiming yet.

And to the nay sayers, did you really think surfer was gonna get his own origin solo movie? I had no doubt that he would be introduced in fantastic four first as thats where he first started.

Malus

06-21-2006, 09:52 AM

And to the nay sayers, did you really think surfer was gonna get his own origin solo movie? I had no doubt that he would be introduced in fantastic four first as that's where he first started.

Exactly. The Silver Surfer is a well-regarded character, but he doesn't have nearly enough recognition outside fandom to bring in blockbuster-level crowds, not without massive promotion. And even then, I think it would be a mistake to introduce him any other way than as the harbinger of mankind's doom.
That's how he started out.

Willie Lumpkin

06-21-2006, 10:29 AM

Exactly. The Silver Surfer is a well-regarded character, but he doesn't have nearly enough recognition outside fandom to bring in blockbuster-level crowds, not without massive promotion. And even then, I think it would be a mistake to introduce him any other way than as the harbinger of mankind's doom.
That's how he started out.

That's the problem for any Surfer fans. Chances are, the movie never would have been made as a solo effort, or, if they did do it, it almost certainly would have had a lower budget than FF.

It's easy to say: "I want (character X) done right with a top-notch director, top-notch script, top-notch special effects. . . "

. . . but who (other than Spider-man, Superman or Batman) ever really gets those kind of resources? I'd rather have a flawed FF film than the NOTHING I had for the last 35 years, and the same goes for the Silver Surfer.

Anyone catch Man-Thing when it went straight to the Sci-Fi channel?

Compi716

06-21-2006, 10:34 AM

"Fantastic 4 and the Silver Surfer"

Boy, that's a mouthful.

Superbeasto

06-21-2006, 10:40 AM

If the Surfer is playing a big part in the movie , i think there is a big chance to see Galactus too

Superbeasto

06-21-2006, 10:41 AM

If the Surfer is playing a big part in the movie , i think there is a big chance to see Galactus too

Malus

06-21-2006, 10:46 AM

If the Surfer is playing a big part in the movie , i think there is a big chance to see Galactus too

I think most fans are hoping they'll do that as the cliff-hanger. I'm usually opposed to movies with cliff-hangers, but what a cliff-hanger Galactus' arrival would be if done right.

roach

06-21-2006, 11:49 AM

I saw this poster on CNN.
From what I heard this movie would be faithful to the first appearance of Galactus. Am I gonna be mad about a publicity poster that 1) Is just the shots from the first movie 2)Dont even show Silver Surfer 3)Are just to get companies excited about the sequel and put their names on some products 4) A movie that hasnt even been shot yet.

Milkman95

06-21-2006, 01:42 PM

That can't be the final title (Fox is bad, but not that bad) - it's just something they whipped together to get the word out on this film and that The Silver Surfer is in it, that's also why they used old pics, font, etc, etc.

Ulic Queldroma

06-21-2006, 02:19 PM

I don't know what to think about the title. Chances are it's just a come-hither to sponsers and the title will change. Heck it's already gone from F42 to FF: The Next Chapter to FF and the SS. I think that if he's (SS) going to be major in this film the should call "The Arrival" or "Destruction" or as several posters have said "Doomsday". It kind sounds like a Scooby-Doo team up or a Abbott and Costello movie title. It just comes across kind of silly.

Carp Man

06-21-2006, 02:30 PM

fanboy rants with no point and yelling from the other side of a brick wall at all.

I could change that. Fantastic Four And The Silver Surfer for a title ? wtf ? It's better then next chapter, but my goodness. Is there no creativity down there ?

Carp Man

06-21-2006, 02:33 PM

I think most fans are hoping they'll do that as the cliff-hanger. I'm usually opposed to movies with cliff-hangers, but what a cliff-hanger Galactus' arrival would be if done right.

In my poinion, that's the only way to go. Cliff-hanger. :up:

roach

06-21-2006, 02:45 PM

what is wrong with doing what they did for X-men...X2...Hence FF2

Ulic Queldroma

06-21-2006, 02:48 PM

In my poinion, that's the only way to go. Cliff-hanger. :up:

Word! :up:

Tony Stark

06-21-2006, 02:54 PM

what is wrong with doing what they did for X-men...X2...Hence FF2

Not many outside the comic readers would know what "FF" meant, and also they usually would write the logo as Fantastic (4) using the (4) shield.

roach

06-21-2006, 02:57 PM

Not many outside the comic readers would know what "FF" meant, and also they usually would write the logo as Fantastic (4) using the (4) shield.

if FF did as well as everyone said it did then putting FF2 in the same font as the original FF isnt gonna matter. No one knew what an X-men was but knew what X2 meant.

Carp Man

06-21-2006, 02:58 PM

Word! :up:

Don't want to see Surfer, and or Galactus thru the whole movie. At the end, after it says the end, just like they did with Doom. Their on the boat celebrating, then the screen says the end, then they go to Doom being loaded on the ship on his way back to Latveria. Do the same thing with the Surfer. The end, then cut away to the galaxy, and see the surfer flying on his surf board. And they go in for a close up, and he flys right into the camer and that's the end. Then do the Surfer movie, then bring on Galactus, and the Surfer for 3. Simple solution.

roach

06-21-2006, 03:01 PM

Don't want to see Surfer, and or Galactus thru the whole movie. At the end, after it says the end, just like they did with Doom. Their on the boat celebrating, then the screen says the end, then they go to Doom being loaded on the ship on his way back to Latveria. Do the same thing with the Surfer. The end, then cut away to the galaxy, and see the surfer flying on his surf board. And they go in for a close up, and he flys right into the camer and that's the end. Then do the Surfer movie, then bring on Galactus, and the Surfer for 3. Simple solution.

I hate to be the wet blanket but I really dont see them doing a SS movie

Tony Stark

06-21-2006, 03:10 PM

if FF did as well as everyone said it did then putting FF2 in the same font as the original FF isnt gonna matter. No one knew what an X-men was but knew what X2 meant.

What I mean is, they are never referred to as the "FF" outside the comics. Nobody in the film referred to them as the "FF", nor were there any promotions as "FF".

Going from X-men to X2 is a different matter. The were originally called the X-men because they had "eXtra powers", but this was never brought up in the movie. One can assume in the movie, they are called X-men because of Xavier, but it's never stated.

Hence in the movies, the X never stands for anything. They are just called X-men and we see the :xmen: symbol. So going from that to X2, wasn't confusing.

Carp Man

06-21-2006, 03:21 PM

I hate to be the wet blanket but I really dont see them doing a SS movie

Yea. Kind of like 50-50 as of now. Avi wants it 1st. One thing I have to say is, this has created much speculation. 1st one we knew it would be Doom, quite a while before filming, but this is something else. No Q the SS will be in this one, but to what extend of the movie he is in is still all speculation.

liesse00

06-21-2006, 03:41 PM

I could change that. Fantastic Four And The Silver Surfer for a title ? wtf ? It's better then next chapter, but my goodness. Is there no creativity down there ?

It's not the offical title.

The Apatow Crew

06-21-2006, 04:06 PM

Anyone catch Man-Thing when it went straight to the Sci-Fi channel?Yeah i caught it on Sci-Fi. it was a okay but not the best. I found it at blockbuster on dvd for 4.99 so i bought it. buti wouldn't pay anymore for it though.

zer00

06-21-2006, 04:07 PM

wow you actually bought that

The Apatow Crew

06-21-2006, 04:10 PM

wow you actually bought thatlike i said it was only 5 bucks. whats it matter. now if it was 20. no way in hell.

liesse00

06-21-2006, 04:21 PM

What's up with your sig J Alba Lover?

Dynasty

06-21-2006, 04:57 PM

Use your entire brain Zer00. Not just the "defend really crappy movies" part of the brain. The title on the poster says "Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer". It's a title like "Batman and Robin". Silver Surfer isn't just going to make a cameo, he's going to be a major character in the film. That means the same guys who ruined Dr.Doom the first time are going to ruin the Silver Surfer this time thereby destroying all chances for a spin-off. Do the math "einstien".

That post made me laugh; you like to jump to conclusion don't you. Like someone stated above they used a comic picture of iron man before and there is nothing official about the title they're just stating that’s he's not on the poster but in the movie.

P.S - Don't be a jerk cause your probaly wrong anyways

P.S.S - "Defend really crappy movies" is better than going into a thread about a "crappy movie" and stating that the sequel is going to suck, so let me get this right, you don't like the first movie, and you already think/know the sequel is going to suck... So this is what you do with your time??

The Apatow Crew

06-21-2006, 05:18 PM

What's up with your sig J Alba Lover?it's the people i like i don't know about and just don't like. i forgot to add you. you shall be in the good.

Chaos Bringer

06-21-2006, 05:22 PM

Damn! There goes my hopes for a stand alone Surfer flick by REAL writers and directors.

ya F41 was awful...
General Hospital Super Incredibles knock off anyone?

Kelly

06-21-2006, 05:25 PM

zer00

06-21-2006, 05:30 PM

it's the people i like i don't know about and just don't like. i forgot to add you. you shall be in the good.

Add me to the bad. I don't want anyone to think I like you

I'm sure no one wants to be on your good list

kaijunexus

06-21-2006, 06:13 PM

I, for one, really like the title.

Sorry. lol

Willie Lumpkin

06-21-2006, 06:28 PM

it's the people i like i don't know about and just don't like. i forgot to add you. you shall be in the good.

You can add me to "The Ugly".http://www.sapphiremetropolis.com/districts/images/smilies/lookaround.gif

blind_fury

06-21-2006, 06:37 PM

PDNFTTs
Yeah, anybody who speaks honestly and has opinion you disagree with a troll. Grow up! :rolleyes:

Kelly

06-21-2006, 06:38 PM

Yeah, anybody who speaks honestly and has opinion you disagree with a troll. Grow up! :rolleyes:

Nope, just remembering history, and calling it as I see it.

So does that mean anyone that doesn't agree with you is being "dishonest"???? hmmm....

And ummm....when did I say I disagreed with you?

zer00

06-21-2006, 06:42 PM

Yeah, anybody who speaks honestly and has opinion you disagree with a troll. Grow up! :rolleyes:

Her grow up? Oh that's hilarious. You're the one coming to this forum of a movie you hate to ***** about it's sequel like you're intimate with the story.

blind_fury

06-21-2006, 06:56 PM

That post made me laugh; you like to jump to conclusion don't you. Like someone stated above they used a comic picture of iron man before and there is nothing official about the title they're just stating that’s he's not on the poster but in the movie.

P.S - Don't be a jerk cause your probaly wrong anyways

P.S.S - "Defend really crappy movies" is better than going into a thread about a "crappy movie" and stating that the sequel is going to suck, so let me get this right, you don't like the first movie, and you already think/know the sequel is going to suck... So this is what you do with your time??
No, what I do with my time is PWN noobs.

I disagree. Defending crappy movies is terribly pathetic. Anyone who does so shouldn't be allowed to see good movies.

If I didn't care about the characters I would have never came to this thread. But facts are facts and based on all empirical evidence the sequel IS going to suck. I'm doing you favor by making your expectations as low as possible so when you see the sequel you don't feel like a complete idiot for expecting a good movie.

And if you think the sequel is going to be a vast improvement on the first your fooling yourself. Once a crappy director/writer, ALWAYS a crappy director/writer.

blind_fury

06-21-2006, 07:03 PM

Her grow up? Oh that's hilarious. You're the one coming to this forum of a movie you hate to ***** about it's sequel like you're intimate with the story.
um I know it's going to suck because the people involved already proved they have little to no respect for the characters. I wouldn't expect Joel Shumacher to make an awesome Batman movie after seeing Batman & Robin. The guy already used the comics for toilet paper I don't need his to repeat process 20 more times to get the message.

liesse00

06-21-2006, 07:26 PM

it's the people i like i don't know about and just don't like. i forgot to add you. you shall be in the good.

Ah OK, cool

sag002

06-21-2006, 07:29 PM

hey, as long as jessica alba is in it, im happy.

Franklin Richards

06-21-2006, 08:17 PM

um I know it's going to suck because the people involved already proved they have little to no respect for the characters.

That's purely speculation on your part. You don't know what compromises were made by the production team in the war that is a major motion picture.

As for your comparison to Schumacher, I think you're way off base. He grabbed some of the worst aspects of Batman's past and brought it into the forefront. The campy, neo roman, homoerotic architecture and imagery that was never an integral part of the Batman story. Story seemed to barter with the suits on adding newer, hipper additions to the story. He got and won the themes that were integral to the FF mytho. The family, the friendship, the quarrels, the loyalty. These are the pathos that must be respected. And for that I thank Story for fighting The Man for me.

Your opinion fascism will not stand. Get behind me Satan. :mad:

:ff: :ff: :ff:

Fantastic-Boy

06-21-2006, 08:19 PM

This name is very original and cool!Really, I never saw anything like it:FF and The SS!!!Simple and exciting!!!

Milkman95

06-21-2006, 09:29 PM

^As well as un-original and corny. They can do much, much better and I suspect they will. That's a temporary marketing title.

At least it better be.......

Dynasty

06-21-2006, 09:33 PM

I'm doing you favor by making your expectations as low as possible so when you see the sequel you don't feel like a complete idiot for expecting a good movie. And if you think the sequel is going to be a vast improvement on the first your fooling yourself. Once a crappy director/writer, ALWAYS a crappy director/writer.

Like I said, This is what you do with your time?? Bash the movie too people who have high hopes and enjoyed the original (There's allot of us out there) and somehow your doing us a favor??? Your posts keep making me laugh :p:p "The movie is going to suck, the movie is going to suck, it's going to suck because the people involved suck" one more time, this is what you do with your time? Go talk on the comic forums about your "loved characters" How is this confusing? This thread is about the recently posted pics not your biased opinion of FF2.

zer00

06-21-2006, 09:34 PM

This name is very original and cool!Really, I never saw anything like it:FF and The SS!!!Simple and exciting!!!

I feel bad for your parents.

Casius--J

06-22-2006, 05:16 AM

Why feed the troll guys, i mean seriously it is rather pathetic to go into a forum of a movie you dont like just to say how much you think its gonna suck.

I for one had no interest in the catwoman film, i love her in batman but could not stomach what i was seein of her movie. so what did i do? stayed my arse out of that forum, simple as

Kelly

06-22-2006, 06:54 AM

Like I said, This is what you do with your time?? Bash the movie too people who have high hopes and enjoyed the original (There's allot of us out there) and somehow your doing us a favor??? Your posts keep making me laugh :p:p "The movie is going to suck, the movie is going to suck, it's going to suck because the people involved suck" one more time, this is what you do with your time? Go talk on the comic forums about your "loved characters" How is this confusing? This thread is about the recently posted pics not your biased opinion of FF2.

I'm not sticking up for the guy....BUT everyone's opinion on this movie is going to be biased in one way or another....thats just how it is....and everyone has a right to their opinion...its not just a place for the people who enjoyed the movie, if thats the case then there are about maybe 2 people that should be here....I enjoyed it as well, but found many problems with it...and don't want a repeat of those problems in the sequel....trolling can go both ways...negative and positive....we have our share of positive trolls around here as well....its motive that makes them a troll, not their opinion....

Willie Lumpkin

06-22-2006, 09:17 AM

BUT everyone's opinion on this movie is going to be biased in one way or another....thats just how it is....and everyone has a right to their opinion.

True, but since we don't know anything about the film, any opinions expressed now are nothing BUT bias.

I won't deny anyone their right to express it, but I'll also have no problem scoffing at anyone who has a strong opinion at this point (though I generally won't post anything to feed them, just laugh quietly at my computer).

And anyone who expresses a strong opinion at this point will be clearly demonstrating their bias so that anything they say in the future will have to be taken with a grain of salt.

Carp Man

06-22-2006, 09:32 AM

True, but since we don't know anything about the film, any opinions expressed now are nothing BUT bias.

All opinions now are just that, opinion. Since the only things we know is, they start Aug. 15th, the 4 cast members are returning ( haven't heard much about Jullian ), SS will be in the sequel ( to what extent we don't know ). So all opinion and speculation is based on what each persons vision for the sequel is.

The Apatow Crew

06-22-2006, 02:41 PM

to get topic for a sec i love your new avvy carp. that's a great line.

Van Petrol

06-22-2006, 04:37 PM

I thought the movie was going to be called Fantastic Four: The Next Chapter, or something like that? :o

The Apatow Crew

06-22-2006, 04:38 PM

I thought the movie was going to be called Fantatic Four: The Next Chapter, or something like that? :oStuff changes all the time. don't worry.

Kelly

06-22-2006, 04:52 PM

True, but since we don't know anything about the film, any opinions expressed now are nothing BUT bias.

I won't deny anyone their right to express it, but I'll also have no problem scoffing at anyone who has a strong opinion at this point (though I generally won't post anything to feed them, just laugh quietly at my computer).

And anyone who expresses a strong opinion at this point will be clearly demonstrating their bias so that anything they say in the future will have to be taken with a grain of salt.

Very true....but that is looking at this logically......what the hell are you doing that for????;) :p

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 05:02 PM

Just a bit of speculation. Vin wanted this role and he'd die to get it. He just pulled out of a project that was supposed to start filming in late July for something else...I know some people would love him and some would hate hims because of his voice and all but who knows....

Hmmmm???

Diesel Pulls Out of Transit, Halts Project
Source: VinXperience June 22, 2006

ReelChicago.com reports that Vin Diesel has pulled out of Accent Pictures' $30 million action-thriller Black Water Transit, which was scheduled to start shooting in Chicago on July 31.

Accent Pictures said that they would like to return to Chicago once the starring role was recast. Kevin Bacon, James Franco and Sophie Okonedo were set to co-star in the film, to be directed by Samuel Bayer from a script by Doug Richardson.

Based on the Carsten Stroud novel, this project follows the divergent agendas of crooks, cops and lawyers as they clash over a shipment of illegal firearms, mafia ties and a double homicide.

Matt312

06-22-2006, 06:16 PM

That would be great, but FF2 starts filming August 15. I think they would have cast someone for Surfer already.

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 06:18 PM

Exactly my point. He was probably in talks for awhile and got things wrapped up and then cancelled Transit.

Matt312

06-22-2006, 06:40 PM

That would of been badass Vin fighting Doom.

Willie Lumpkin

06-22-2006, 06:42 PM

liesse00

06-22-2006, 06:44 PM

Where did you hear Vin wanted this part?

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 06:45 PM

He's said it several times. Just google Vin Diesel Silver Surfer and it'll pop up or I'll find it hold on...

Ok this is before it was annouced he was gonna be in FF2 but that there was gonna be a Surfer movie first. Knowing this could spin off into another franchise he's surely do it:

July 14, 2005 - Ever since last March when he first mentioned there was a filmmaker who "had a very cool take on it," Marvel Studios CEO Avi Arad has hinted about the identity of the possible director of 20th Century Fox's planned Silver Surfer movie.

"There is a director who should make Silver Surfer," Arad has since revealed. "He is mentally committed to it he's doing another movie now. ... What's most important to me about this guy, first, is that he's incredible with visuals. But he's also a spiritual guy, a Zen Buddhist."

Although the rumor mill has pegged David O. Russell (I Heart Huckabees) as the director, Arad recently denied it, saying, "That's news to me."

So if it is not Russell then we are left with a few other notable filmmakers who are either Buddhists or have prominently mentioned Buddhism in their films.

Rob Cohen is one possibility. He is a practicing Buddhist and has helmed such big Hollywood projects as The Fast and the Furious and xXx. Interestingly, Cohen is already attached to another Marvel sci-fi project, Killraven. [B]His regular leading man Vin Diesel is said to be interested in the title role of Silver Surfer. "The Surfer is an intergalactic superhero," Diesel told the National Post in 2003, who is "one step further than all these regional superheroes."

Another director who fits the bill is Richard Linklater, who has mulled Buddhist philosophy in such films as Waking Life. Keanu Reeves, who stars in Linklater's forthcoming A Scanner Darkly, has also been rumored for the role of Norrin Radd. It should be noted that Reeves is a practicing Buddhist, and starred in Little Buddha.

Interestingly, Linklater shares an agent and manager with Chris Columbus, one of the producers of the Fantastic Four film who also so happens to be directing Sub-Mariner. I recently investigated the Linklater possibility but both a longtime source, as well as Linklater's reps, denied it.

A reader suggested Marcus Nispel, who helmed the remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but I've not been able to confirm their claim that Nispel is a Buddhist.

Finally, there is Oscar winner Oliver Stone, a practicising Buddhist, who, according to this interview, expressed interest years ago in helming Silver Surfer. Stone has been rumored for various comic book films in the past, including Superman.

All of these filmmakers have projects in various stages of development and seem to fit Avi Arad's description. Perhaps we'll know the answer soon enough.

Note: He's mentioned it in other interviews as well in 2005.

Kelly

06-22-2006, 06:50 PM

Actually alot of his accent is "put on"....he talked about it one time on David Letterman.....he talked fairly normal and blew everyone away on that interview....I was surprised at how different his voice was from what we hear in movies...

Carp Man

06-22-2006, 06:51 PM

The Brooklyn accent would bother me. I don't know him well enough to know if he could lose it.

. . . but I actually like the idea of the Surfer not talking at all, but I doubt they'll do it that way particularly since they seem to be featuring him.

How much would they have to pay VD (those are some unfortunate initials, aren't they?)? I wouldn't want him if it meant they'd have to take his salary out of the SFX budget.

I agree with you Willie. But if Ioan could lose his accent, and Chilkis could pick up the Brooklyn accent, I'm sure Vin can loose his Brooklyn accent. I'm not a fan of Vin, but for Surfer, I think he'd fit right in. Much better the Reeves. He would command a price, and if they go with Vin, that would confirm to me that the Surfer would have a big part, bigger then I'd want, because Fox wouldn't pay that much for a cameo.

blind_fury

06-22-2006, 06:51 PM

What does Vin Diesel have in common with the Silver Surfer other than a bald head? :confused:

Kelly

06-22-2006, 06:52 PM

What does Vin Diesel have in common with the Silver Surfer other than a bald head? :confused:

Ok...ummmmmm Silver Surfer isn't a "real person" so what does anyone have in common with him....????

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 06:53 PM

Besides that he can surf (LOL) and he's got the build, and he's a box office draw that would boost the power of the sequel though I'd rather see him as Thanos.

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 06:54 PM

Ok...ummmmmm Silver Surfer isn't a "real person" so what does anyone have in common with him....????

Some people are just too uptight about the heroes they read about.

Kevin Roegele

06-22-2006, 06:55 PM

What does Vin Diesel have in common with the Silver Surfer other than a bald head? :confused:

He has the same distant quality that Keanu Reeves has.

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 06:56 PM

One thing is that this is a speculation thread about why he cancelled the other film along with his interest in the role. This is not a debate on whether he's good or not.

Hunter Rider

06-22-2006, 06:58 PM

That movie has no luck,im sure Bruce willis was supposed to be in it before Vin
As for Vin as SS-he isn't someone i would have chosen but i wouldn't write him off without seeing him in the role however i think if he stars then "Silver On" is very likely

Kelly

06-22-2006, 07:00 PM

Well this choice sucks, I mean.... Vin Diesel doesn't have white eyes....how the hell is he supposed to play Silver Surfer? I'm boycotting the movie....

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 07:01 PM

Or they might show his origin as Norin before he's the Surfer unless Reed puts him in the transformation chamber too LOL. No I think Vin would do it even if his character was all CGI w/motion capture on his body. He'd love it. He could wrap up his filming in a a couple weeks in that case make a bundle and move on.

Willie Lumpkin

06-22-2006, 07:02 PM

Besides that he can surf (LOL) and he's got the build, and he's a box office draw that would boost the power of the sequel though I'd rather see him as Thanos.

He can also play cool, mysterious, tough very well. I'd say SS is all three of those things.

I'm still not sure that he'd be my first choice, but I'd at least be interested to see what he could do with it.

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 07:02 PM

Well this choice sucks, I mean.... Vin Diesel doesn't have white eyes....how the hell is he supposed to play Silver Surfer? I'm boycotting the movie....

That was the funniest thing I've read in awhile. Nice one. Oh and his ears aren't right.

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 07:04 PM

He can also play cool, mysterious, tough very well. I'd say SS is all three of those things.

I'm still not sure that he'd be my first choice, but I'd at least be interested to see what he could do with it.

His voice might be off but he could do the character justice and the rest of the world outside of the comic community would eat it up. They don't know crap about him. It's gonna be a new character to 90% of the audience...though they might have heard the name.

Hunter Rider

06-22-2006, 07:04 PM

Makes ya wonder casting a big name like Vin,is this about making F4/2 a good movie or getting the SS spin off launched:confused:

blind_fury

06-22-2006, 07:04 PM

Ok...ummmmmm Silver Surfer isn't a "real person" so what does anyone have in common with him....????
Why cast Vin Diesel other than the fact than he's bald? :eek:

Yeah exactly there's no other reason! :down

and Vin Diesel persona doesn't fit the Silver Surfer's personality. He's closer to the Thing (mean tough guy with a deep gravely voice) than he is to a innocent and child-like, compassionate, surfer.

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 07:05 PM

Makes ya wonder casting a big name like Vin,is this about making F4/2 a good movie or getting the SS spin off launched:confused:

It can be both. It doesn't have to be either or.

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 07:05 PM

blind_fury

06-22-2006, 07:06 PM

Some people are just too uptight about the heroes they read about.
yeah who cares! Ashton Kutcher for Batman!

:rolleyes:

Hunter Rider

06-22-2006, 07:06 PM

It can be both. It doesn't have to be either or.

Not really,if you're paying a guy like Vin more than any of the cast then you need to get your money's worth which means he becomes central.

Kelly

06-22-2006, 07:06 PM

OMG......OMG.......OMG............OMG..........dra ma....drama......drama......drama......drama...... ....DRAAAAMMMMMAAAAAA......

ok was that enough outcry at this rumor?????

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 07:07 PM

Kelly

06-22-2006, 07:08 PM

Hey Fury and the rest of you. If you want to debate if he's a good choice or not make a poll and debate it there. This thread's gonna be a flame heaven. This is just to point out some pieces seemingly falling together for Vin to play the role. It's speculation. Do you think the pieces fit for this to happen? I do.

GOOD LORD AD....what the hell did you think this thread would become....a nice ..... let's be nice and debate, and only say nice things about Vin?

COME ON...........wake up!:o

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 07:09 PM

Not really,if you're paying a guy like Vin more than any of the cast then you need to get your money's worth which means he becomes central.

He wouldn't be central if Dr. Doom was the main story and the Surfer shows up in the last 1/3rd of the film setting up part 3 with Galactus. Even if the Surfer was central is that bad? Wasn't Doc Ock kind of central in Spidey 2, The Joker in 89's Batman, Lex in Superman? Yep.

I agree if done wrong they could royally "F" it up like Blade Trinity and the Scooby Gang.

Willie Lumpkin

06-22-2006, 07:10 PM

Why cast Vin Diesel other than the fact than he's bald? :eek:

Yeah exactly there's no other reason! :down

and Vin Diesel persona doesn't fit the Silver Surfer's personality. He's closer to the Thing (mean tough guy with a deep gravely voice) than he is to a innocent and child-like, compassionate, surfer.

He may have moments of innocence and child-like compassion . . . but he also has moments of bad-ass, more powerful than anything on Earth, don't even think about looking at him the wrong way.

It's a lot easier for a tough actor to pull off a soft side than it is to have a soft actor pull off a bad-ass side.

Kelly

06-22-2006, 07:11 PM

If the 4 are not central....its f***ed.....

Just my opinion.....

Advanced Dark

06-22-2006, 07:11 PM

GOOD LORD AD....what the hell did you think this thread would become....a nice ..... let's be nice and debate, and only say nice things about Vin?

COME ON...........wake up!:o

Relax. It wasnt' meant to be a debate at all and yes it should be nice here. It was a movie cancellation by Vin and his interest in SS and FF2 release and fitting it all together. I expected people to say I do or dont' think that's gonna happen, or cool, or that sucks, etc...We're getting sidetracked.

Whatever you don't need the red emoticon. I'm cool.

blind_fury

06-22-2006, 07:11 PM

You didn't see The Pacifier did you?
When you read Silver Surfer's dialogue in the comics do you imagine Vin Diesels voice? If you do you don't understand the character. That's like hearing Pee Wee Herman's voice when reading Batman's dialogue.

Kelly

06-22-2006, 07:12 PM

Relax. It wasnt' meant to be a debate at all and yes it should be nice here. It was a movie cancellation by Vin and his interest in SS and FF2 release and fitting it all together. I expected people to say I do or dont' think that's gonna happen, or cool, or that sucks, etc...We're getting sidetracked.

Whatever you don't need the red emoticon. I'm cool.

:o :o :o

Hunter Rider

06-22-2006, 07:13 PM

He wouldn't be central if Dr. Doom was the main story and the Surfer shows up in the last 1/3rd of the film setting up part 3 with Galactus. Even if the Surfer was central is that bad? Wasn't Doc Ock kind of central in Spidey 2, The Joker in 89's Batman, Lex in Superman? Yep.

I agree if done wrong they could royally "F" it up like Blade Trinity and the Scooby Gang.

There's a difference between the examples you gave and this,those were all solo characters in one on one rivalries with the main villain,in the case of F4 where will all the character development be for 4 leads heroes if the SS is central and i doubt Vin would come on board for a small part

ProductionMusic

06-22-2006, 07:17 PM

I would not be surprised at all if he was going to be Silver Surfer. He is a big name & it seems like something FOX would do. Plus more power to this Movie :up: & him alone will get more People in the Seats mainly Chicks

blind_fury

06-22-2006, 07:19 PM

He may have moments of innocence and child-like compassion . . . but he also has moments of bad-ass, more powerful than anything on Earth, don't even think about looking at him the wrong way.

It's a lot easier for a tough actor to pull off a soft side than it is to have a soft actor pull off a bad-ass side.
Silver Surfer is holding back 95 percent of the time. Most of the time he doesn't want to hurt anyone. Why would you hire an actor based on the rare times when Surfer gets super-pissed? That's like hiring a comedian to play Bruce Wayne because he makes one joke