SILVER SURFER/ Lawrence Fishburne, Doug Jones Discussion Thread

[Kelly]

Update on the Front Page: Surfer will be all CGI!

Looks like my Vin Diesel speculation is off. I'm actually happy that they're going state of the art CGI all the way. Keeps things consistent and means the whole "silver on" rumor was BS. :)

It can't just be T2 CGI it's got have a faint starfield within the skin kind of relfective.

Moviehole came up with this news thanks to me...I think. I told clint my speculation the same time I brought it up here and he said he'd contact some sources he knew to find out. I also linked him to Tim Story's Myspace site which he seemed unaware of. I hope he reached him that way because that way.

Edit: Just realized the story isn't on the boards here yet but it now has popped up on the Hypes front page. :)

The "silver on" was never a rumor....it was just a poll here....lol

[Advanced Dark]

^ I could swear someone said (I think Carp-Man) that was a rumor swirling around online which is why the poll was created.

Edit: I see Hunter Rider started that in this thread right here:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9133866&postcount=663

[Kelly]

^ I could swear someone said (I think Carp-Man) that was a rumor swirling around online which is why the poll was created.

Edit: I see Hunter Rider started that in this thread right here:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9133866&postcount=663

yeah he had a poll about it, and it got merged....it was just something HR thought up.....I think he's wishing he hadn't...lol

[Advanced Dark]

Well it helped get that answer out of Tim Story from Clint because that's one of the issues I asked him to bring up. Cool.

[Kelly]

Update on the Front Page: Surfer will be all CGI!

Looks like my Vin Diesel speculation is off. I'm actually happy that they're going state of the art CGI all the way. Keeps things consistent and means the whole "silver on" rumor was BS. :)

It can't just be T2 CGI it's got have a faint starfield within the skin kind of relfective.

Moviehole came up with this news thanks to me...I think. I told clint my speculation the same time I brought it up here and he said he'd contact some sources he knew to find out. I also linked him to Tim Story's Myspace site which he seemed unaware of. I hope he reached him that way because that way.

Edit: Just realized the story isn't on the boards here yet but it now has popped up on the Hypes front page. :)


Soooooo.....Sue is going to have a love triangle with a "cgi man" should be interesting....

Well I guess Fishboy's hope of a painted on silver dude is dead......



shame....:o

[DOG LIPS]

I wonder who will do his voice?

[Supreme Power]

I wonder who will do his voice?

As do I. :cool:

[Mauser9910]

Maybe it's to make him less human looking than the original Surfer...
I'm cool with that, it should look even better than the Hulk.

[Lobster Charlie]

Ehh...not holding my breath on this one. This is a near-impossible feat to pull off in a convincing fashion. Gollum being one of the exceptions of course.

I just hope they rotoscope a real actor so our actors can interact with them a lot better. I guess silver/reflective surfaces are easy to pull off than something more realistic. Hmmmm.

[Retroman]

After all this talk from the folks at Marvel about realism and showing support for prostethics over cg i'm surprised that they're making Silver Surfer cg.No actor at all?Are they doing this because its in the best interests of the movie? Or are they doing it to save time?

[zer00]

It's harder to do a more humanoid prosthetic suit(I'm sure someone will bring up Juggernaut, but he's not exactly humanoid looking). Always expected Surfer to be CGI. It'll probably done like the Hulk, with someone doing the movements to make it look more human then mapping overtop. And with SS being...Silver, it'll be easier to generate than human skin. Not a huge surprise at all. Just wonder who will do the voice.

[Advanced Dark]

After all this talk from the folks at Marvel about realism and showing support for prostethics over cg i'm surprised that they're making Silver Surfer cg.No actor at all?Are they doing this because its in the best interests of the movie? Or are they doing it to save time?

There's really no other way to portray the Silver Surfer except via CGI and as a character he should be more believeable in CGI then Golum, Kong, or The Hulk. They're going to want to do a Silver Surfer origin film down the road so Fox doesn't want to screw up that chance so they'll do it good. FF vs Doom will be playing out too and lots of practical humor per Tim.

[Advanced Dark]

As do I. :cool:

Should the voice sound normal or should it be enhanced via computers to sound like some surreal alien being.

[Dynasty]

"The Surfer will be a new CGI design being developed especially for the movie (http://www.superherohype.com/news/fantasticfournews.php?id=4459#). It's going to be incredible."


No where does it say there will be no actor, i am willing to bet anything there will still be a cast announcement.

[Advanced Dark]

Of course there will be a voice actor but there's really no need for an actual actor's phsyical presence in this film...in an origin film there will have to be.

[Retroman]

It's harder to do a more humanoid prosthetic suit(I'm sure someone will bring up Juggernaut, but he's not exactly humanoid looking). Always expected Surfer to be CGI. It'll probably done like the Hulk, with someone doing the movements to make it look more human then mapping overtop. And with SS being...Silver, it'll be easier to generate than human skin. Not a huge surprise at all. Just wonder who will do the voice.
I know but all this talk -especially from Avi Arad- about wanting to see the emotion of the actor etc. made me think they'd use a mixture of both cg and prostethics.

[Advanced Dark]

I know what you're saying but The Silver Surfer is an exception. They can't do that with a man in a suit even if touched up w/CGI. It wouldn't look right. CGI all the way. Besides I think Avi was just second guessing himself because of the Hulk which I thought was a great character presentation that showed emotions fine. Golum showed emotion as did Kong.

[Retroman]

^^True but doing a completely CG character is tough and very time consuming (see Hulk, Gollum).

[zer00]

I know but all this talk -especially from Avi Arad- about wanting to see the emotion of the actor etc. made me think they'd use a mixture of both cg and prostethics.

Maybe taking his words a bit too much. When it's possible, of course. But much like the Hulk. How would a big guy painted green look running around on a big screen? No offense to those who want that. But seriously that would look bad. And prosthetic suit? Hulk might be big and green but still has green skin with fairly normal muscle structure(once again don't bring up Juggernaut, he wasn't running around in torn up pants with no shirt). I know surfer ain't huge, but to make the prosthetics look good you'd have to overlap them so much, what would be the point? And what kind of prosthetics would be used? A thin Silver suit? With thing you got "rocks" to attach to his face. With surfer you got...some sliver make up and a bit of prosthetic(kind of like Jack in B89 but not a chin or nose but more in the cheeks etc) or Mystique in the x-men movies. But a silver naked dude walking around would be mighty different than a naked super model with scales. ya dig?

and if that made no sense. It's like 5am so...I'm not in shape good....good shape

[spider-neil]

in T2 when the t-1000 pours itself into the copter and says 'get out' was I the only one thinking 'silver surfer'?

also there is talk of doom being in this movie, hope not, leave him dead and devout the movie to the fab four the surfer and the planet eater.

[Retroman]

Maybe taking his words a bit too much. When it's possible, of course. But much like the Hulk. How would a big guy painted green look running around on a big screen? No offense to those who want that. But seriously that would look bad. And prosthetic suit? Hulk might be big and green but still has green skin with fairly normal muscle structure(once again don't bring up Juggernaut, he wasn't running around in torn up pants with no shirt). I know surfer ain't huge, but to make the prosthetics look good you'd have to overlap them so much, what would be the point? And what kind of prosthetics would be used? A thin Silver suit? With thing you got "rocks" to attach to his face. With surfer you got...some sliver make up and a bit of prosthetic(kind of like Jack in B89 but not a chin or nose but more in the cheeks etc) or Mystique in the x-men movies. But a silver naked dude walking around would be mighty different than a naked super model with scales. ya dig?

and if that made no sense. It's like 5am so...I'm not in shape good....good shape
I understand what you're saying but i thought they were going to do something to Colossus (prostethic suit with cg enhancement).Or the technology that was used on I, Robot for the robots with the green suits.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2917/a3573i0stuntirobot185x1497eq.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8003/irobot29iu.jpg

It helps the performance when the actors can actually see who they're interacting with.Maybe they're doing a variation of the I, Robot technology?

[CaptainStacy]

I think an all cgi Surfer is the way to go...especially utilizing some new proceedures...it should give him a creepy/cool alien effect.

[DOG LIPS]

Didn't his voice have kind of an echo effect to it in the animated series? They should do that for the movie as well, it gave a mystic, powerful feel to his voice.

[Hunter Rider]

Interesting devlopment,I think this may hint that Jess' comments about a "love triangle" were slightly misinterpreted given i don't see Fox having Jess getting gooey over a CGI guy

Also like the part where Story says "The Surfer will be a new CGI design being developed especially for the movie"

[zer00]

I understand what you're saying but i thought they were going to do something to Colossus (prostethic suit with cg enhancement).Or the technology that was used on I, Robot for the robots with the green suits.

[IM]http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2917/a3573i0stuntirobot185x1497eq.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8003/irobot29iu.jpg[/IMG

It helps the performance when the actors can actually see who they're interacting with.Maybe they're doing a variation of the I, Robot technology?

Colossus only had a suit for long shots. Everything close was completely CGI(that didn't seem to be finished:o)

I,Robot is probably what they're doing.

Interesting devlopment,I think this may hint that Jess' comments about a "love triangle" were slightly misinterpreted given i don't see Fox having Jess getting gooey over a CGI guy


Let's hope that role is back to Alicia where it belongs:o And makes a **** load more sense.

[Warhammer]

All CGI sounds great to me.

[Angelus7181]

If it's quality CGI way better then irobot's then sure why not.. he is after all silver and alien like so I really didn't expect a human actor to pull it off. Lets just hope FOX doesn't screw up yet another marvle character. :mad:

[JustABill]

Not sure what I think of this. I think we need to see emotion and therefore need an actor for him.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

From SuperHeroHype!:

Who will play The Silver Surfer in the Fantastic Four sequel, appropriately titled Fantastic Four and The Silver Surfer? It appears that an actor might not even be necessary.

Moviehole talked to director Tim Story, who revealed a new bit on the character. "The Surfer will be a new CGI design being developed especially for the movie. It's going to be incredible."

20th Century Fox has scheduled a June 15 release for the follow-up, which again features Michael Chiklis, Ioan Gruffudd, Chris Evans, Jessica Alba and Julian McMahon.

Bad idea IMO :o

[Willie Lumpkin]

As with many stories, I think we have to be careful in reading something like this.

All Tim Story said was: "The Surfer will be a new CGI design being developed especially for the movie. It's going to be incredible."

From that quote, the author speculated: "It appears that an actor might not even be necessary."

I agree with you. The author's suggestion, would be a bad idea. The should base the surfer on an actor's performance, but Tim isn't sayin they won't. The Author is making that leap.

[Willie Lumpkin]

"The Surfer will be a new CGI design being developed especially for the movie (http://www.superherohype.com/news/fantasticfournews.php?id=4459#). It's going to be incredible."


No where does it say there will be no actor, i am willing to bet anything there will still be a cast announcement.

Yep. I made the same comment in another thread before I saw this one.

Couldn't Tim's comment have been applied to the CGI used for King Kong, or the faces of Professor X and Magneto when they were shown younger in X-men 3?

Just saying that the CGI will be good doesn't say that they won't use an actor.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

I guess...but if they do do it Hulk-style...it'd be a bad move IMO

[Spider - Man]

They could do motion capture. I wonder what "new cgi design" is being developed? I'm intrigued!

[Onlooker]

They seem to be including Julian McMahon in the cast now. That still wasn't completely clear.

[redlion2]

If they do use a live actor in some capacity along with CGI, it could work. If they use all CGI.....I dunno. It certainly won't be very convincing, IMO.

[liesse00]

"The Surfer will be a new CGI design being developed especially for the movie. It's going to be incredible."

New technology, sounds exciting. Hopefully they've been working on it, maybe we'll get a sneak peak at Comic con.

[co2]

Is it any surprise that Surfer will be CGI? Given the title, I wonder if it will have Norin Rad. That part will call for an actor.
I'm really happy to hear Surfer is going to be so prominent, but disapointed to think he is going to be showcasesd in a FF movie. If it is anything like the last one.....:(

[Kelly]

Is it any surprise that Surfer will be CGI? Given the title, I wonder if it will have Norin Rad. That part will call for an actor.
I'm really happy to hear Surfer is going to be so prominent, but disapointed to think he is going to be showcasesd in a FF movie. If it is anything like the last one.....:(

No more disappointed than I will be if he's showcased more than the other 4 just for a spin off movie of his own. The title gives me the uneasy feeling that, that is what will happen...Its an F4 film, not a stepping stone film for the SS.

[Darthkush]

All CGI Surfer is a bad idea. I'm hoping it's a combo of live action and cgi.

As far as Mcmahon goes, who's to say he'll come back still? Even if he is returning, it could just be his voice. He may not even actually be on the set unless there are flashbacks or something.

[Kahoot]

So I'm taking from this that the surfer will be Gollum like.

[gvcool2]

This will never work, and I can tell you the ultimate reason why...How is Jessica Alba supposed to give a ddecent performance with a CGI if she is unable to give a decent performance with real actors

[antariksh]

From SuperHeroHype!:



Bad idea IMO :o

You know what i find very funny is that when any news for F4-2 comes out every one starts saying that is BAD idea or sucks.

Just shows that this movie will flop big time if we fans don't support it.

Btw i like the idea of a CGI silver surfer if a company like WETA or ILM is doing the SFX for it.

But u know what I don't think it will be a completely CGI character. They will probably do it the same way they did King kong, gollum or Sonny( I robot). COOL part is that all of that was done by WETA so i think they are most probably going to choose them for the SILVER SURFER sfx.

Also John Bruno is the sfx supervisor. He did terminator 2 so i am confident the action and sfx scenes will be FANTASTIC.

[redlion2]

This will never work, and I can tell you the ultimate reason why...How is Jessica Alba supposed to give a ddecent performance with a CGI if she is unable to give a decent performance with real actors

LOL!!

[The Only Woj]

a CG Surfer and a live-action Thing. well done, Mr. Story, well done.

[freemind1969]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9g3bsln_Xs&search=silver%20surfer

check out this old school cgi attempt at the surfer- (about 2 min. in)

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

You can't embed video or music into these forums.

[terry78]

I'd rather they go that route than paint some guy silver. Let's take a little stroll into the 21st century for christ's sake. Don't be the caveman afraid of fire or that round thing. Everyone said The Thing should've been CG, and SS is just as complex visually as he is.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Why not do what they did for X-Men 3 and actually get an actor and build up a metallic suit wround him like they did for Colossus?

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9g3bsln_Xs&search=silver%20surfer

check out this old school cgi attempt at the surfer- (about 2 min. in)

Noice

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

a CG Surfer and a live-action Thing. well done, Mr. Story, well done.

Someone agrees with me if they go down that route. I just hope they don't mess it up if they have to do it CG

[liesse00]

You guys need to calm down and wait for official word.

[Darthphere]

Ok, so if Surfer is going to be CGI, who does the voice. Discuss.

[Darthphere]

No more disappointed than I will be if he's showcased more than the other 4 just for a spin off movie of his own. The title gives me the uneasy feeling that, that is what will happen...Its an F4 film, not a stepping stone film for the SS.


Actually it pretty much is, sorry.:( :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Ok, so if Surfer is going to be CGI, who does the voice. Discuss.

Wlliam Shatner would be my choice, he would bring charisma,and etheral dignity to the part \/:up:

[GL's Light]

Interesting devlopment,I think this may hint that Jess' comments about a "love triangle" were slightly misinterpreted given i don't see Fox having Jess getting gooey over a CGI guy
Yeah, not to mention the Surfer's lack of a dipstick. That would stand in the way of a romance, methinks.

[Darthphere]

Wlliam Shatner would be my choice, he would bring charisma,and etheral dignity to the part \/:up:


Morgan Freeman.:mad: :p

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, not to mention the Surfer's lack of a dipstick. That would stand in the way of a romance, methinks.
It also kills the best line the franchise could have gotten "Hey sue wanna wax my board" :D:(

[Darthphere]

Yeah, not to mention the Surfer's lack of a dipstick. That would stand in the way of a romance, methinks.


You cant love someone if you dont have a penis? Ladies?:confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Morgan Freeman.:mad: :p
I felt sure you would try to trump me with that other god of self promotion the Hass:( http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Hunter Rider]

You cant love someone if you dont have a penis? Ladies?:confused:

hey SS stands for Silver Surfer not Starp-on Sam:mad:

[Darthphere]

Silver Surfer is going to steal Alicia from The Thing.

[Willie Lumpkin]

I hope that they put an actor on-set in a green suit and then just overlay the actor with CGI.

I think that's a good possibility since (unlike Hulk, Gollum, Yoda etc.) the Surfer is the size of a normal person . . . just with a different surface.

[GL's Light]

You cant love someone if you dont have a penis? Ladies?:confused:
You don't think a lack of willy would slow a guy down in life? I would think it'd take the zest out of anyone's lovelife.

[GL's Light]

It'll probably be a motion capture performance - like Gollum in the Rings films.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

It better be

[The Geek Vault]

That video was pretty cool. I liked how they did him there, although when he changed the doll into himself I was half expecting him to turn it into a caprisun. I think they should do the green suit where there's an actor with the motion capture things on him. PS did anyone ever see this tv shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7lrs0cR_0M&search=silver%20surfereries

[Retroman]

Something like Gollum or I, Robot. It helps the other actors perfomance and the effects supervisor when someone is actually there on set.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2917/a3573i0stuntirobot185x1497eq.jpg

[Retroman]

All CGI Surfer is a bad idea. I'm hoping it's a combo of live action and cgi.

As far as Mcmahon goes, who's to say he'll come back still? Even if he is returning, it could just be his voice. He may not even actually be on the set unless there are flashbacks or something.
Mcmahon is coming back...

And finally I asked Story that towards the end of the first film, it left it wide open that Doom will be back, so will he? "Yes that I can tell you. He will be back in full DOOM, not like we had him in the first film"

Fantastic Four 2 is scheduled to be released in July 4th 2007.
Source: http://www.latinoreview.com/news.php?id=236

[lordofthenerds]

Is this really much of a surprise? Hopefully it will be a motion capture preformance like everyone's been saying.
That video was pretty cool. I liked how they did him there, although when he changed the doll into himself I was half expecting him to turn it into a caprisun. I think they should do the green suit where there's an actor with the motion capture things on him. PS did anyone ever see this tv shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7lrs0cR_0M&search=silver%20surfereries
Yeah, I watched every episode of that before it was cancled.

[Retroman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9g3bsln_Xs&search=silver%20surfer

check out this old school cgi attempt at the surfer- (about 2 min. in)
Cool

[terry78]

^Everything we do in life is ultimately to please the penis. You go to school to get a job to make money to impress the females. Or males, depending on your preference.

[Retroman]

Colossus only had a suit for long shots. Everything close was completely CGI(that didn't seem to be finished:o)

I,Robot is probably what they're doing.
Lets hope thats what they're doing.Or we're going to hear endless whining from the actors about staring at a tennis ball.

[Carp Man]

Who is playing The Silver Surfer?
Posted by Clint Morris on July 4, 2006

One rumour that has been making its way around the Internet in recent weeks is this one about Vin Diesel possibly playing The Silver Surfer in “The Fantastic Four 2”. I’m sure you’ve all heard it. And the rumour mill went [further] into overdrive last week, when it was announced that Diesel had left his new film “Black Water Transit” – for undisclosed reasons.

That rumour? Not true. It is on the fast track to the recycle bin. Wham. Bam. Boom. No xXx fighting alongside the troops in blue, I’m sorry to say. Whatever reason Diesel left “Transit”, has nothing to do with “FF2”.

The film’s director, Tim Story, told me this morning that although The Silver Surfer is indeed in the movie, it won’t be Vin Diesel playing him.

“No truth to it”, Story said, when asked about the Diesel rumours. “The Surfer will be a new CGI design being developed especially for the movie. It's going to be incredible”.
The Silver Surfer is a galaxy-cruising defender endowed with superhuman strength, who is able to control and direct cosmic energies, with enough force to destroy a city.
Initially, he was going to front his own picture (and probably will, sometime in the future), but the studio have decided to team him up with “The Fantastic Four” for his first movie out of the gate.

Thanks to ‘TS’

http://www.moviehole.net/news/20060704_who_is_playing_the_silver_surf.html

Here is the full article.

[Advanced Dark]

Ok, so if Surfer is going to be CGI, who does the voice. Discuss.

REGIS!

"Reed...is that your final answa?"

[Compi716]

It sounds more like the actual design of the Surfer is different, meaning he won't look like the classic SS.

[theShape]

i just hope he doesn't look lame.

[Carp Man]

It sounds more like the actual design of the Surfer is different, meaning he won't look like the classic SS.

I really wasn't expecting it to. They love to mess with things. Try to bring it into "Modern times". Wish they would just leave the original which has worked for years the hell alone. :mad: He'll prob look like the T 1000 in Terminator.

[antariksh]

Why not do what they did for X-Men 3 and actually get an actor and build up a metallic suit wround him like they did for Colossus?

becasue it sucked!!!!!!!!!

I personally want them to use the same technology used to create KING KONG, GOLLUM and SONNY in I ROBOT

[Carp Man]

Why's everyone worried about him having no willie ? Has noone heard of a strap-on ? :eek: Christopher Reves was paralized. His wife didn't leave. A woody, and love have nothing to do with each other

[emi]

This will never work, and I can tell you the ultimate reason why...How is Jessica Alba supposed to give a ddecent performance with a CGI if she is unable to give a decent performance with real actors

Best line of the month...:D :D :D


I agree with Story, there's no need of an actor for the CGI Silver Surfer...

[Sun_Down]

I really hope he doesn't come out looking like Spider-Man or something. That too-fluid CGI movement completely takes me out of the moment and distracts me from what's really going on. I really want this idea to work, so here's hoping. :up:

[arachnid-guy]

Why's everyone worried about him having no willie ? Has noone heard of a strap-on ? :eek:

bhahahahaaaaaaaaaaa....oh no MENTAL IMAGE OF SILVER SURFER IN SUSPENDERS!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman, think of Wonder Woman!

Ahhhhhhhhh............

Glorious relief.

[GL's Light]

Why's everyone worried about him having no willie ? Has noone heard of a strap-on ? :eek:
But it's sad to have to resort to a (silver) strap-on. :(

There's the source of the Surfer-Reed conflict - a guy with no penis meets a guy who can shape his penis into any size he wants. That's a recipe for jealous aggression if I've ever seen one.

[antariksh]

I really hope he doesn't come out looking like Spider-Man or something. That too-fluid CGI movement completely takes me out of the moment and distracts me from what's really going on. I really want this idea to work, so here's hoping. :up:

what are u talking about spider-man was amazing!!!!!!!!!

IF they can do that kind of SFX for SILVER SURFER u can guarantee people will come in huge numbers to watch F4-2.

Of course don't make him do all what SM can!!!

Just make him look amazing and absolutely jaw dropping cool.

John Bruno will deliver. He did terminator 2 and x-men 3 and that is enough for me to know that the movie will have awesome action and well done sfx.

[Willie Lumpkin]

I really hope he doesn't come out looking like Spider-Man or something. That too-fluid CGI movement completely takes me out of the moment and distracts me from what's really going on. I really want this idea to work, so here's hoping. :up:

I know what you mean. The movement just never looks right with CGI. It works for a character like Gollum that doesn't move like a normal person. With all the amazing things they've been able to do over the past several years, they've never been able to completely eliminate that strange look when they cut to CGI. That's the biggest reason I hope they use someone in a green suit.

[Lobster Charlie]

I don't think a painted green man would look bad. It's all about how you shoot it. I think CG looks worse in a lot of cases. Hell, I thought the CG in I, Robot was miserable---it was way too obvious, and those brilliant animators at ILM thought it would be wise to *keyframe their animation*. Just like they did with a lot of Hulk's scenes, which is why he rarely looked convincing.

(you almost NEVER keyframe 3D animation if you can help it, kids)

In the case of Silver Surfer, yes, I can see the need for him to be CG. In the case of the Incredible Hulk--no, he doesn't need to be CG. He's just a big green man. Green is much easier to pull off convincingly. Silver is a lot harder, even though they did a pretty decent job with Colossus.

[Stringer]

How much is the budget for FF-2? Trying to blend in some kind of new technology with a limited budget may make SS look like utter crap no matter how innovative the graphics might be.

[blind_fury]

The Thing should be all CGI also. He's way too small.

[Incrediblejeff]

I'm not too sure about this.It could work well or it could fail badly. I'll wait and see.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

becasue it sucked!!!!!!!!!

I personally want them to use the same technology used to create KING KONG, GOLLUM and SONNY in I ROBOT

Um...no it didn't...

[RedIsNotBlue]

I know what you mean. The movement just never looks right with CGI. It works for a character like Gollum that doesn't move like a normal person. With all the amazing things they've been able to do over the past several years, they've never been able to completely eliminate that strange look when they cut to CGI. That's the biggest reason I hope they use someone in a green suit.

CGI can be done well. King Kong looked nearly flawless. But considering the amount of time this film is getting I SERIOUSLY doubt the CGI will be that good.

[gambitfire]

I really hope he doesn't come out looking like Spider-Man or something. That too-fluid CGI movement completely takes me out of the moment and distracts me from what's really going on. I really want this idea to work, so here's hoping. :up:

The thing is that for Spider-man it was pure hardcore animation since no one was actually going to swing like that, while with Silver Surfer it can all be Mo-Cap which is the way they should deffinetley go.

This means they would probably have the actor in green and so Jessica can try to act :p. (i actually liked Jessica's performance ya bunch of haters :D )

TO THE CGI IDEA I SAY :up: it would be most awesome and Deff a lot better than Colossus if done right :)

[Zeroefalling]

What is with everyone using ****loads of cgi. Is it really cheaper to pay a buttload of animators and modelers over a couple of prostectic makers and puppeteers. Animatronics ...couldnt they be awesoem ....I mean its 2006. I just watced the 5th element again yesterday...the CGi was used very sparingly and it was awesome. I think the first problem with this movie is youve got the director of Barber Shop and The Firing Squad directing it. AND the further they stray from the surfers Original design the more peopel will hate it. James ACheseon said this himself when he designed spideys movie suit. ......****in marvel ....FF4 pt 1 sucked...cant wait for pt 2. Im dying to see how bad galactus will look in black leather LMAO!:down

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

How come everyone hates the metallic suit?

[Zeroefalling]

CGI can be done well. King Kong looked nearly flawless. But considering the amount of time this film is getting I SERIOUSLY doubt the CGI will be that good.



I totally agree. Marvel is turning these movies out like Activision is turning out piece of **** superhero videogames.. What happened to Time and effort?

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Money.

[Zeroefalling]

Just a quick thing ....I am an animator. Mostly 2D traditional stuff...I do MAcromedia Flash stuff too...anyway, one of my old mentors used to say Humans are the hardest thing to animate, because the audience is human. And you can jsut tell when it looks wrong because we see peopel moving everyday. Spidey..he swings..thats fantastic so we believe it. Supes...he flies and thats fantastic, so we believe...but the silver surfer...he ****in surfs so if they go full cg and mess it up....godammit WE WILL knoW!

[gambitfire]

LOL do you know what Animatronic is? Trust me on this one when i say Hell No!! :D
But CGI and Mo-Cap is the way too go.

edit- this post was for Zeroefallings first post :p

DOUBLE EDIT- COOL IM A 3D ANIMATOR but i know 2D as well :) AGAIN I SAY TOO YOU MO-CAP!!!!

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

You have a point.

[gambitfire]

PEOPLE IF IT'S MO-CAP YOU CAN'T GO WRONG BECAUSE WATCH THIS-....ITS BEING CAPTURED FROM A REAL PERSON!!!!!!! :D

i highly doubted it would be animated since it's easier and less work to use the Mo-Cap equipment

[Kelly]

I think the forum just dropped a couple of I.Q. points.......wow

[Advanced Dark]

I don't think a painted green man would look bad. It's all about how you shoot it. I think CG looks worse in a lot of cases. Hell, I thought the CG in I, Robot was miserable---it was way too obvious, and those brilliant animators at ILM thought it would be wise to *keyframe their animation*. Just like they did with a lot of Hulk's scenes, which is why he rarely looked convincing.


(you almost NEVER keyframe 3D animation if you can help it, kids)

In the case of Silver Surfer, yes, I can see the need for him to be CG. In the case of the Incredible Hulk--no, he doesn't need to be CG. He's just a big green man. Green is much easier to pull off convincingly. Silver is a lot harder, even though they did a pretty decent job with Colossus.

http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2004/112-5/toddler.jpg

[Darthphere]

I don't think a painted green man would look bad. It's all about how you shoot it. I think CG looks worse in a lot of cases. Hell, I thought the CG in I, Robot was miserable---it was way too obvious, and those brilliant animators at ILM thought it would be wise to *keyframe their animation*. Just like they did with a lot of Hulk's scenes, which is why he rarely looked convincing.

(you almost NEVER keyframe 3D animation if you can help it, kids)

In the case of Silver Surfer, yes, I can see the need for him to be CG. In the case of the Incredible Hulk--no, he doesn't need to be CG. He's just a big green man. Green is much easier to pull off convincingly. Silver is a lot harder, even though they did a pretty decent job with Colossus.


How many 10 foot high men do you know? 10 foot men that when getting angry grow to be almost 3 stories high or more?

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Ah, I get it.

Mo-Kap in Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance :up:

[gambitfire]

WTF^^ i hope your joking.

Mo-Cap is the terminology animators use for motion capture :D just in case you wheren't kidding, people in these boards can be very suprising.

[kedrell]

They could do it the way they're CGI'ing Davy Jones in POTC2.

[gambitfire]

you mean throwing the CG on top of the character/actor ?
lol it's pretty much a way of Mo-Cap :D.

[stock2mal]

I am still thinking that Billy Zane should do the role with a CGI overlay. This guy just LOOKS the part, and he wouldn't demand a huge paycheck. The first F4 was crap IMO. The effects were great, and although I was disappointed with The Things size and a few instances where you could tell it was a guy in a suit, I was happy overrall with the makeup effects. That is where my pleasure with the movie ended.... Tim Story is a hack, just like Brett Ratner. The difference between the two is that Brett Ratner listened to the fans TOO much, and turned X3 into a Power Rangers Saturday morning special, and Story.... Well, Story just turned the movie into a ****ing advertisement and fart joke..... Roger Corman made a better film in the 90's than Story ever will, even with the WORST line in a movie I have ever heard: "Mrs. Storm, can Susie and Johnny go to outer space with us!?"

[gambitfire]

That is where my pleasure with the movie ended.... Tim Story is a hack, just like Brett Ratner. The difference between the two is that Brett Ratner listened to the fans TOO much, and turned X3 into a Power Rangers Saturday morning special,

ROTFLMAO :up: that was great. :D

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

I am still thinking that Billy Zane should do the role with a CGI overlay. This guy just LOOKS the part, and he wouldn't demand a huge paycheck. The first F4 was crap IMO. The effects were great, and although I was disappointed with The Things size and a few instances where you could tell it was a guy in a suit, I was happy overrall with the makeup effects. That is where my pleasure with the movie ended.... Tim Story is a hack, just like Brett Ratner. The difference between the two is that Brett Ratner listened to the fans TOO much, and turned X3 into a Power Rangers Saturday morning special, and Story.... Well, Story just turned the movie into a ****ing advertisement and fart joke..... Roger Corman made a better film in the 90's than Story ever will, even with the WORST line in a movie I have ever heard: "Mrs. Storm, can Susie and Johnny go to outer space with us!?"
When did they say that?

Oh, the nineties version...it was supposed to be silly and corny.

[zer00]

I don't think a painted green man would look bad. It's all about how you shoot it. I think CG looks worse in a lot of cases. Hell, I thought the CG in I, Robot was miserable---it was way too obvious, and those brilliant animators at ILM thought it would be wise to *keyframe their animation*. Just like they did with a lot of Hulk's scenes, which is why he rarely looked convincing.

(you almost NEVER keyframe 3D animation if you can help it, kids)

In the case of Silver Surfer, yes, I can see the need for him to be CG. In the case of the Incredible Hulk--no, he doesn't need to be CG. He's just a big green man. Green is much easier to pull off convincingly. Silver is a lot harder, even though they did a pretty decent job with Colossus.

The Hulk needs to be CGI.

[Advanced Dark]

The hulk will be all CGI w/animatronics per Zak Penn & Avi.

[gambitfire]

HEY UMM i got something to tell you

MO-CAP!!!!!!!

:D he he he he he

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Ahh...now I REALLY get it.

*Futurama reference*

[zer00]

CGI Surfer a bad idea? Riiiiight

[gambitfire]

NO NOT RIGHT!!!

But LEFT!!!

actually no ideas are bad if planned ahead and done properly. Oh no wait this is FOX.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

ROFL

But if you have to motion capture for a CG creature what's the point in doing it in the first place? Just get a friggin' actor :o

[gambitfire]

um with mo-cap you still need an actor, he's just wearing green spandex that leave nothing too the imagination.
So i think whoever wrote the article jumped to a conclusion.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Which is waht we've already declared

[SouLeSS]

Spiderman in the movies is mostly CGI...It could work...

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Just coz hes CG in the movies doesnt mean you can't tell it's CG nor that it's good.

[Lobster Charlie]

How many 10 foot high men do you know? 10 foot men that when getting angry grow to be almost 3 stories high or more?

Never liked that aspect about the Hulk movie. It's not really necessary for the character.

Anyway...you know any hobbits? Somehow they were able to pull that off.

[Lobster Charlie]

The Hulk needs to be CGI.

No he doesn't.

[Advanced Dark]

^ He absoloutely needs to be CGI for the action shots combined w/Animatronics for close up's and other shots. Avi agrees, Zak Penn agrees, and most others agree.

[Advanced Dark]

How many 10 foot high men do you know? 10 foot men that when getting angry grow to be almost 3 stories high or more?

How man green monsters do you know who's been exposed to gamma radiation. What does that limit you to growing wider and not taller? This is fantasy and fun...nothing more.

[antariksh]

I hate this thread. No one here is discussing about the CGI everyone is just making fun of each other and daying it will suck. GO GET A LIFE!!!

I hope when the TEASER comes out it will shut everyone's mouth.

:thing: :thing: :thing:

[Antonello Blueberry]

Really, what's so wrong about the metallic Colossus in the X-Men movie? Wouldn't it be easier to have the actor on set to interact with the FF and then covering him in silver CGI, so mantaining his facial expressions (or inexpression if they cast Keanu Reeves)? And who will give the voice to the character?

[jacque]

Boris Kodjoe should play the surfer. He looks just like him.

Who should play the Silver Surfer in the Fantastic 4 sequel? (http://www.buzzme.us/viewtopic.php?t=32&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)

[ultimatefan]

Can´t these people take ONE ****ING RIGHT DECISION? Two words for you, Mr Story... motion capture. Actually, just one... WETA.

[Willie Lumpkin]

Can´t these people take ONE ****ING RIGHT DECISION? Two words for you, Mr Story... motion capture. Actually, just one... WETA.

Maybe that's exactly what he's hinting.

[ultimatefan]

Maybe that's exactly what he's hinting.
But you still need an actor to do the motion capture. he soiunded like he was dismissing any potential actors for the part - not that Vin Diesel was a good idea anyway...

[Willie Lumpkin]

But you still need an actor to do the motion capture. he soiunded like he was dismissing any potential actors for the part - not that Vin Diesel was a good idea anyway...

It may sound that way, but that can't be what he means. What are they going to do for the voice? Use a computer generated one? I think he's just saying they're not using Vin Diesel . . . oh, and by the way, we have some really cool CGI we're going to unveil for this.

Here's the quote:

“No truth to it”, Story said, when asked about the Diesel rumours. “The Surfer will be a new CGI design being developed especially for the movie. It's going to be incredible”.

[liesse00]

Read the board.

[DEMONS BLOOD]

O.K.,I did read the board and I know they said that they are going to use CGI(which I'd rather see a live action Surfer myself!!!:up: ) for the Silver Surfer.
But to answer the question posed on this thread,I'd like to see Vin Diesel as the surfer.
The guy might not be the greatest actor in the world but he does have the build for it.

[Kelly]

Wow, losing I.Q. points and the topic....lol

[The Apatow Crew]

What the hell? I'm i in the right thread?

[DOG LIPS]

EVERY CGI talk turns into Hulk-time. :(

[gvcool2]

people talk **** about vin diesel for no real reason, I bet 90% of the people flaming him enjoyed xXx & Fast & Furious and clearly have no idea about his genuine acting abilities

[blind_fury]

The reason people are nominating Vin Diesel is because he has a bald head. It's retarded.

[bcd90]

I think its necessary to make a CGI surfer.

[Super Flight]

I thinks all CGI Silver surfer is a great idea! an actor all painted silver anyways would look stupid

Correction- motion capture CGI

[Super Flight]

The reason people are nominating Vin Diesel is because he has a bald head. It's retarded.

HAHAHAHA EXACTLY!

[Ratcrawler]

If I wanna see a guy painted silver, I'll go to Times Square. If Silver Surfer is as believeable as I, Robot's Sonny then I'm all for this.

[WorthyStevens]

I'm VERY leery about this idea, if it does come to pass. However, if SS turns out like Gollum or Sonny, then I'll eat my words.

I just don't want my Surfer to end up being soulless CGI. :o

[Antonello Blueberry]

The reason people are nominating Vin Diesel is because he has a bald head. It's retarded.
No, they do because in the past he said he was interested in the role. He's a fan.

[blind_fury]

Nic Cage was a huge fan of Supes, but nobody wanted him to play Superman.

Face it, people nominated Vin Diesel because he's bald not because he's a "fan".

[Rac]

I guess...but if they do do it Hulk-style...it'd be a bad move IMO Hmm, Hulk was done like T-1000, Gollum, Kong etc. Or did you mean that?

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

No, it's just, look, I love those movies and the characters, but it's like just because we can create things with a computer that's the one and only and easy otpion the director has. All he has to do is throw money at the animators and it will get done, I just think an actor would be a lot better, even though I love CG, and characters liek Hulk, King Kong, Gollum, etc, I just think CG is just being used WAY too much, it has to be used sparingly IMO.

[Lightning Strykez!]

I'd rather they go that route than paint some guy silver. Let's take a little stroll into the 21st century for christ's sake. Don't be the caveman afraid of fire or that round thing. Everyone said The Thing should've been CG, and SS is just as complex visually as he is.


Agreed.

[antariksh]

If I wanna see a guy painted silver, I'll go to Times Square. If Silver Surfer is as believeable as I, Robot's Sonny then I'm all for this.

Ya and i am sure it will be.

As long as WETA is doing the sfx for SILVER SURFER we will be happy.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Weta did some spesh fx for X3 o_O

[TheSaintofKillers]

The surfer is an alien in human form. There is NO reasons to make him CGI. NONE.

It would be like making Superman CGI because he can fly. (and by that I mean having no actor play him, only CGI the whole movie).

Or nightcrawler in full CGI.

The surfer is only ONE color. They just need to make a great actor bald, and work their movie magic on him. Brandon Routh was an actor, and yet you believe he can fly and throw a car. Because of FX.

Jesus, Fox always find a way to remind me they can get lower...

[antariksh]

I'm VERY leery about this idea, if it does come to pass. However, if SS turns out like Gollum or Sonny, then I'll eat my words.

I just don't want my Surfer to end up being soulless CGI. :o

To be honest with you i always found him to be soulless in the comic books. He had no emition whatsoever. No feelings whatsoever. :o

[antariksh]

Weta did some spesh fx for X3 o_O

Ya i think they did the last PHEONIX scene.

[gvcool2]

To be honest with you i always found him to be soulless in the comic books. He had no emition whatsoever. No feelings whatsoever. :o

hes origin story says otherwise

[Casius--J]

Im all for motion capture cgi, thats what i thought they was gonna do. As they did for spawn, gollum and im sure collossus.

[gvcool2]

Im all for motion capture cgi, thats what i thought they was gonna do. As they did for spawn, gollum and im sure collossus.

spawn and collusus wern't mo-cap i don't think

[Kahoot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9g3bsln_Xs&search=silver%20surfer

check out this old school cgi attempt at the surfer- (about 2 min. in)
Now there is a super power! The power to turn Action Figures into your own likeness.

[Matt312]

Even if SS is CGI, wouldn't they need a real actor for a SS spin off(HULK)?

[Super Flight]

OMG.. wht do you all want freaking Puppets?? yea..thats so much better then CGI....

CGI is the best thing they can do, and it looks great and you all freakin know it, so stop complaining

[terry78]

The Silver Surfer looks human, but as far as his emotions....he is basically artificial. He may still have a humanoid soul, but he's basically viewed as robotic at times, almost like Vision(coincidentally, a character that is long overdue for live action.)

[emi]

I thinks all CGI Silver surfer is a great idea! an actor all painted silver anyways would look stupid

Yup, totally agree: you just hit the jackpot!

[Sun_Down]

CGI is the best thing they can do, and it looks great and you all freakin know it, so stop complaining

I thought Spider-Man's CGI form looked like utter crap and was in no way believable. So, no I don't "know it".

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Haaha someone agrees

[GhostPoet]

Man, this is the best idea yet. :) Personally, I don't think any actor could do the Sufer justice...he NEEDS to be CGI. And it'll look incredible.

[GhostPoet]

I thought Spider-Man's CGI form looked like utter crap and was in no way believable. So, no I don't "know it".

Really? I thought it was fantastic. It was the only way to capture some moves that only the Spiderman (or cgi) in the comic could do...but no life person could ever do.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

If they make a completely CG Silver Surfer, but not a completely CG Thing, I will find them and throw pigs blood and used hypodermic needles on them.:mad:

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Someone applauded Tim Story for that for making such a dumb decision.

[wobbly]

All CGI isnt the best option and it isnt necessary either. A CGI effect over the top of an actor in an appropriate suit will do the job just fine (the best CGI effects are when real footage is adapted rather than completely made on computer, like how they did the Torch's effects in FF1).

I'm also wondering now if they are gonna go with a satin metallic look like this:

http://www.jccomics.com/SilverSurferMiniBust.jpg

or a shiny reflective silver look:
http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/651_998_1.jpg

I know the latter is more accurate to how the books intend him to look, but I do think the former does look a little better and might work better on screen.

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

It's probably going to be the metallic one

[Carp Man]

http://www.jccomics.com/SilverSurferMiniBust.jpg

or a shiny reflective silver look:
http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/651_998_1.jpg



Don't care for either one, but if you held a gun to my head and said chose, I would say the top one is closser in keeping with the original. The one on the bottom would look like the T 100. That liquis silve look hust would not work.

[GhostPoet]

I guess I just don't understand why some people are so completely against a CGI Surfer...seems like the most logical way to go for me. Why have a guy dress up a suit and apply special effects when you can go for a full-on shiney silver silver, just like in the comics. Someone who looks JUST like the Surfer.

[Rizor]

I think over reliance on CG to create the character is a bad idea, especially if they go with the "no actor" approach. I think the most successful CG characters have been those which used performers to guide the CGI work. And for a character that's basically human in anatomy, etc., it would be easy enough to get a guy to do motion capture for the whole thing.

[Kahoot]

I'm also wondering now if they are gonna go with a satin metallic look like this:
http://www.jccomics.com/SilverSurferMiniBust.jpg

Or a shiny reflective silver look:
http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/651_998_1.jpg
I'd think something in the middle but more like the top one than the bottom.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

http://www.jccomics.com/SilverSurferMiniBust.jpgPlease Jesus, that one.

[wobbly]

I guess I just don't understand why some people are so completely against a CGI Surfer...seems like the most logical way to go for me. Why have a guy dress up a suit and apply special effects when you can go for a full-on shiney silver silver, just like in the comics. Someone who looks JUST like the Surfer.

I think the problem with a full-on shiny surfer is all that moving reflective surface would be rather distractive (The T-1000 is one example and there's an also an old fan-made cgi effort floating around the web that does shows just how distractingly off that effect might look, especially on the face, even with state of the art effects). So for my money a more satin look would probably work better.

And I'm not personally against all-cgi, but I'd rather that option only used when it is necessary, ie when dealing with a character of inhuman proportions (like King Kong, Dinosaurs, or the Hulk) or is performing physical actions beyond anything a human can do (ie, Spider-mans more extreme web-slinging).

I think until the technology can render a truly convincing human figure (and not 99% convincing, but the full 100) there will always be that 'uncanny valley' that will put viewers off.

[Willie Lumpkin]

When I read a thread like this, I'm sort of glad I'm not Tim Story.

How can a phrase like: "The Surfer will be a new CGI design being developed especially for the movie. It's going to be incredible." lead to a 5 page discussion that's showing no sign of ending.

Did he really even say anything?

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

I think over reliance on CG to create the character is a bad idea, especially if they go with the "no actor" approach. I think the most successful CG characters have been those which used performers to guide the CGI work. And for a character that's basically human in anatomy, etc., it would be easy enough to get a guy to do motion capture for the whole thing.

I do agree with you, but, technically, if you have a role in the film, that talks or does actions, it's a bit hard not to have an actor (Andy Serkis = King Kong) lol

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

When I read a thread like this, I'm sort of glad I'm not Tim Story.

How can a phrase like: "The Surfer will be a new CGI design being developed especially for the movie. It's going to be incredible." lead to a 5 page discussion that's showing no sign of ending.

Did he really even say anything?

I looked at the IMDb page for Fantastic Four last year and it had Tim Story. I was unfortunate enough to have watched Taxi the next night...and I was all like "TIm Story...where've I heard that name before?"

DAMN YOU FOX!!! I wish they got Chris Columbus to direct, to be honest.

[Willie Lumpkin]

When I read a thread like this, I'm sort of glad I'm not Tim Story.

How can a phrase like: "The Surfer will be a new CGI design being developed especially for the movie. It's going to be incredible." lead to a 5 page discussion that's showing no sign of ending.

Did he really even say anything?

Actually, I take that back. If I was Tim Story, I would have a lot of fun with this. I would be saying things like: "Well I'm studying some of the classic marvel works and state of the art CGI techniques in preparation for this project. I've currently go Howard the Duck and Tron in my DVD changer, and I'm learning quite a bit."http://forums.wdwmagic.com/images/smilies/lol.gif

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Rofl

[gerbstat]

http://members.aol.com/gerbstat/sanitized.jpg

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Um...what?

[Super Flight]

I guess you guys dont watch movies am i correct? because if you hate CGI then you mostly hate every single movie...

[Super Flight]

Someone applauded Tim Story for that for making such a dumb decision.

why do you hate CGI so much? it looks great in so many movies

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

I don't hate CG so much, I hate this desicion to make SIlver Surfer all CG.

It's like Brett Ratner: Tim Sotry's only doing a film the easiest and the laziest way possible and throwing money every which way and hope it makes some serious dough back

[Franklin Richards]

People get mad when the Hulk is CGI.
People get mad when the Thing isn't CGI.
People get mad when the Surfer is CGI.


I give up.


:ff: :ff: :ff:

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

I didn't get mad at CG hulk, I think that's brilliant.
I didn't get mad at Thing not being CG, it's brillaint.

I don't give up.

[antariksh]

People get mad when the Hulk is CGI.
People get mad when the Thing isn't CGI.
People get mad when the Surfer is CGI.


I give up.


:ff: :ff: :ff:

EXACTLY if hulk was in a suit like The thing people would have been mad.
if the The thing was CGI fans we would have whined that it would turn out like Hulk.


I mean common these people (FANS) can't make up their minds.

They are just uh CAN'T SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Inhuman63]

An all CGI Surfer may not be bad at all. Considering I know nothing about the script or how the Surfer will be utlized or anything, this may be a good thing. I know that he has a human anatomy but the man is from outer space and they may need to go that route depending on how they want to utilize him. As long as Galactus is not CGI but a big dude in a purple suit with a big purple hat, I'm good. LOL.:)

[Super Flight]

I don't hate CG so much, I hate this desicion to make SIlver Surfer all CG.

It's like Brett Ratner: Tim Sotry's only doing a film the easiest and the laziest way possible and throwing money every which way and hope it makes some serious dough back

if he turns out looking like collossus then i'd get mad, but if he looks like something out of ILM or king kong, i'll be really happy

It depends who is going to be the artist, the artist is the one who is going to make it look good or bad

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

if he turns out looking like collossus then i'd get mad

What's so bad about this:

http://www.canmag.com/images/front/xmen/char-colossus.jpg

[Super Flight]

What's so bad about this:

http://www.canmag.com/images/front/xmen/char-colossus.jpg

It looked nothing like that in the movie!!

[Kelly]

What's so bad about this:

http://www.canmag.com/images/front/xmen/char-colossus.jpg

IMHO....absolutely nothing...

[Kelly]

Well hell if they didn't come up with something what would fanboys have to ***** about...?????? All CGI, part CGI, no CGI, someone is going to *****......we must all understand this, and be ready....lol

So lets see....what do we have so far...

1). Sue most powerful...
2). Original or Ultimate SS and/or Galactus...
3). CGI or not SS...
4). Love triangle...
5). Jessica as Sue...
6). ???Doom???
7). Non-CGI Thing...
8). Time factor...
9). Fox in general...

Did I miss any????:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[GL's Light]

Well hell if they didn't come up with something what would fanboys have to ***** about...?????? All CGI, part CGI, no CGI, someone is going to *****......we must all understand this, and be ready....lol

So lets see....what do we have so far...

1). Sue most powerful...
2). Original or Ultimate SS and/or Galactus...
3). CGI or not SS...
4). Love triangle...
5). Jessica as Sue...
6). ???Doom???
7). Non-CGI Thing...
8). Time factor...
9). Fox in general...

Did I miss any????:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

10. Tim Story directing...
11. Budget too low...
12. SS should have his own film...

Not saying I agree with all of that - but those are some more general complaints being lobbed around.

[gambitfire]

and the people who fill in the majority of seats just want too see explosions.

Let's face it today's public is easily impressed with booms and bams. My friends MOM just told me X3 had too much talking, i thought it didn't have enough.

Fantastic Four did good i mean i liked it but i know it lacked. Yet the appeal of the movie was 2 high profile celebrities and the Human Torch and other FX :p. Batman and Superman have been excellent movies IMO but movies that i feel are only eye candy are doing better. It's what the world is coming too and it sucks.

[gambitfire]

^i blame television too many ppl have ADD :D :p

[Kahoot]

and the people who fill in the majority of seats just want too see explosions.
Explosions and Jessica Alba's Boobs in a tight spandex one peace :)

You also said something about, "2 high profile celebrities" Alba isn't really A-class and I don't know who you'd think the other one is, maybe Nip/Tuck man who's name I don't even know.

[Kelly]

10. Tim Story directing...
11. Budget too low...
12. SS should have his own film...

Not saying I agree with all of that - but those are some more general complaints being lobbed around.

10. As far as Tim Story directing...yes that is one I could have put up there, BUT many believe the first movie not to truly be his movie...I'm one of those.....so thats where my Fox in general comes from....

11. How can we be upset about a budget we don't know what it is....so thats too early...

12. Most of the fanboys I've seen around here are happy that the SS is being introduced with the F4 movie, which is how it was in the comics, so why not in the movie?

[GL's Light]

10. As far as Tim Story directing...yes that is one I could have put up there, BUT many believe the first movie not to truly be his movie...I'm one of those.....so thats where my Fox in general comes from....

11. How can we be upset about a budget we don't know what it is....so thats too early...

12. Most of the fanboys I've seen around here are happy that the SS is being introduced with the F4 movie, which is how it was in the comics, so why not in the movie?
I've seen a fair amount of complaining about SS being in this film - although it's mostly from people who didn't like FF 1 and think FF 2 will screw up SS and that he deserves his own film instead.

I've also seen some folks complain in advance about the budget even though we don't know what it'll be - y'know comments like "Fox is a cheap studio, so SS and Galactus won't look good."

[gambitfire]

Explosions and Jessica Alba's Boobs in a tight spandex one peace :)

You also said something about, "2 high profile celebrities" Alba isn't really A-class and I don't know who you'd think the other one is, maybe Nip/Tuck man who's name I don't even know.

i ment Julian McMahnon i think that's how you spell it.

Alba deff, A-list, she's freaking everywhere.

Oh and the rest of the cast is well known. Except for Gruffudd, i fell on the floor laughing when i realized he was the guy from 102 Dalmations, i think he's good but that was still funny.

[wobbly]

I've seen a fair amount of complaining about SS being in this film - although it's mostly from people who didn't like FF 1 and think FF 2 will screw up SS and that he deserves his own film instead.

I've also seen some folks complain in advance about the budget even though we don't know what it'll be - y'know comments like "Fox is a cheap studio, so SS and Galactus won't look good."

Both FF1 and X3 cost more than many block-busters by other studios do, so I wouldn't call them cheap.
I would however (on viewing the final results) question just what they manage to spend so much money on.

[GL's Light]

Both FF1 and X3 cost more than many block-busters by other studios do, so I wouldn't call them cheap.
I would however (on viewing the final results) question just what they manage to spend so much money on.
Again, these aren't charges that I'm making. I was just relaying some of the complaints I've heard for the list that was being put together.

[gambitfire]

Both FF1 and X3 cost more than many block-busters by other studios do, so I wouldn't call them cheap.
I would however (on viewing the final results) question just what they manage to spend so much money on.

visual effects. that's all these movies are really good visual effects. All story is lost behind that.

[ScrnNmsSuck]

All story is lost behind that.

Sad but true

[Kelly]

Again, these aren't charges that I'm making. I was just relaying some of the complaints I've heard for the list that was being put together.

My list was compiled out of sarcasm more than anything else.....most of those complaints I do not share....and I have hope that the sequel will be much better than the first. My complaint really is in the editing, and as of right now I haven't seen Hoy on any list....as far as the SS, I don't really care how he is done as long as it is done well, and he does not overshadow the real heros of this movie the 4 themselves. So really as far as I'm concerned, my complaints run more from sarcasm, because I am one that waits and makes my final decision after I've seen the actual movie. If they fix the editing, and focus on the 4...I have a feeling I'll be a happy camper...:)

[GL's Light]

My list was compiled out of sarcasm more than anything else.....most of those complaints I do not share....and I have hope that the sequel will be much better than the first. My complaint really is in the editing, and as of right now I haven't seen Hoy on any list....as far as the SS, I don't really care how he is done as long as it is done well, and he does not overshadow the real heros of this movie the 4 themselves. So really as far as I'm concerned, my complaints run more from sarcasm, because I am one that waits and makes my final decision after I've seen the actual movie. If they fix the editing, and focus on the 4...I have a feeling I'll be a happy camper...:)
I got that it was a sarcastic list. I was giving you a couple more fanboy complaints to add to it.

I thought the editor of FF 1 was coming back for FF 2. Pretty sure I read that on a thread recently.

[Kelly]

I got that it was a sarcastic list. I was giving you a couple more fanboy complaints to add to it.

I thought the editor of FF 1 was coming back for FF 2. Pretty sure I read that on a thread recently.

The only ones I have seen so far are the producers, director, actors, special effect technician and production manager as far as the same....maybe Frost along with the other 2 writers....

As far as others, there has been multiple changes...and Hoy has not been mentioned....not on any thread around here, and he's not on any cast/crew lists either...BUT then again, there is no editor yet on any cast/crew list....

Hoy at the moment is the editor for "300"....but there is no mention of F4 2 and I hope it stays that way...

[GL's Light]

The only ones I have seen so far are the producers, director, actors, special effect technician and production manager as far as the same....maybe Frost along with the other 2 writers....

As far as others, there has been multiple changes...and Hoy has not been mentioned....not on any thread around here, and he's not on any cast/crew lists either...BUT then again, there is no editor yet on any cast/crew list....

Hoy at the moment is the editor for "300"....but there is no mention of F4 2 and I hope it stays that way...
Could well be faulty memory on my part.

[Kelly]

Could well be faulty memory on my part.

"300" is in post-production so unfortunately there is still a chance he could come in...

[Retroman]

I have no problem with the CG unless the actors have someone they can interact with on set instead of looking at a tennis ball.For an example check out the videos at the links.


http://www.digitaldomain.com/links/features/behindscenes/robot2/image_5.gifhttp://www.digitaldomain.com/links/features/behindscenes/robot2/image_6.gifhttp://www.digitaldomain.com/links/features/behindscenes/robot2/image_7.gif

http://www.digitaldomain.com/links/features/behindscenes/robot2/robot2.htm
http://www.digitaldomain.com/links/features/behindscenes/robot1/robot1.htm

[Philly Phanboy]

All CGI isnt the best option and it isnt necessary either. A CGI effect over the top of an actor in an appropriate suit will do the job just fine (the best CGI effects are when real footage is adapted rather than completely made on computer, like how they did the Torch's effects in FF1).

I'm also wondering now if they are gonna go with a satin metallic look like this:

http://www.jccomics.com/SilverSurferMiniBust.jpg

or a shiny reflective silver look:
http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/651_998_1.jpg

I know the latter is more accurate to how the books intend him to look, but I do think the former does look a little better and might work better on screen.

A CGI Surfer wouldn't be a bad idea if done right and personally I like the satin metallic look too. It'll also make him look less like the T1000.

On another note, Tim Story has debunked the Vin Diesel as Surfer connection, but has he mentioned anything about Laurence Fishburne's possible interest? A CGI Surfer might just be the way which would allow Fishburne to play the role of his favourite character. :cool:

[Willie Lumpkin]

A CGI Surfer wouldn't be a bad idea if done right and personally I like the satin metallic look too. It'll also make him look less like the T1000.

On another note, Tim Story has debunked the Vin Diesel as Surfer connection, but has he mentioned anything about Laurence Fishburne's possible interest? A CGI Surfer might just be the way which would allow Fishburne to play the role of his favourite character. :cool:

I didn't know he was interested. Voicewise, he'd probably be at the top of my list of names I've heard suggested so far.

[terry78]

^In the vein of Keith David as Goliath, and Carl Lumbly as Martian Manhunter....Laurence Fishburne is Silver Surfer. That could work.

[Gamma Ray]

Tim Story sucks. How can he be excited about using CGI after the crappy effects from the first film?

[xii22_loop]

guess like with X-men and X-men 2 theres always a slight improvment on everything the second time around?

[Retroman]

A CGI Surfer wouldn't be a bad idea if done right and personally I like the satin metallic look too. It'll also make him look less like the T1000.

On another note, Tim Story has debunked the Vin Diesel as Surfer connection, but has he mentioned anything about Laurence Fishburne's possible interest? A CGI Surfer might just be the way which would allow Fishburne to play the role of his favourite character. :cool:
I didn't know he was a fan.There seem to be some pretty big names who like the Surfer. Hope Fox are doing their homework.

[Kahoot]

^In the vein of Keith David as Goliath, and Carl Lumbly as Martian Manhunter....Laurence Fishburne is Silver Surfer. That could work.
Keith David what a voice, Goliath and Spawn... Fishburne as the Surfer would rock. I can see it now though, one off issues and minis about the Silver Surfer in the Matrix.

[Philly Phanboy]

I didn't know he was a fan.There seem to be some pretty big names who like the Surfer. Hope Fox are doing their homework.

I couldn't find the original interview but here's the post with a synopsis - link (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8270329&postcount=181)

[Retroman]

I couldn't find the original interview but here's the post with a synopsis - link (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8270329&postcount=181)
Thanks:cool: :up:

[Zilleraut #66]

I've always been a huge Surfer fan and I'm not really opposed to seeing a CGI SS. I'll hold off on any comments until I see it. I've always liked Chow Yun Fan for the Surfer. Bald head aside I like his bold yet kind voice and halted English. Just please do this character justice!!!

[Willie Lumpkin]

I couldn't find the original interview but here's the post with a synopsis - link (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8270329&postcount=181)

:up: Cool! I think he's the best option so far.

[ISHMAEL]

Tim Story sucks. How can he be excited about using CGI after the crappy effects from the first film?

i know mr. fantastic looked hella fake

[echostation]

look, he's got the skills... after all he did direct Taxi where reviews said the following:

"A surprisingly funny, female-driven romp -- as long as you don't question too many plot particulars." - USA TODAY

"An example of the sort of fun you can have when you're not taking yourself -- or the job -- too seriously." - DETROIT FREE PRESS

"Latifah and Fallon are an unlikely comedy team but they keep the laugh meter running" - JACKIECOOPER.COM

"Corny, but it grows on you." - MINNEAPOLIS STAR TRIBUNE

After those sorts of kick ass reviews, give the man a chance... he'll deliver this time around... I GUARANTEE IT says the Men's Wear House suits guy.

Look at how those reviews demonstrate how CLEARLY HE FITS the Fantastic Four directorial mantle. Look at how those prove that he will easily be capable of handling the extremely deep emotionally complex and layered story of the Silver Surfer alongside Galactus... look at it... "the laugh meter running..." "corny, but it grows on you..." This is exactly the kind of positive vibe that will kindle the genius fire of Silver Surfer being brought to screen... he will share a buddy-buddy bad cop good cop type relationship with Galactus... it will be brilliant, just wait for it.

[DACrowe]

I don't know, I don't think it will work. Oh well though.

[Kelly]

I don't know, I don't think it will work. Oh well though.

LOL, why am I not surprised....

[Zilleraut #66]

look, he's got the skills... after all he did direct Taxi where reviews said the following:

"A surprisingly funny, female-driven romp -- as long as you don't question too many plot particulars." - USA TODAY

"An example of the sort of fun you can have when you're not taking yourself -- or the job -- too seriously." - DETROIT FREE PRESS

"Latifah and Fallon are an unlikely comedy team but they keep the laugh meter running" - JACKIECOOPER.COM

"Corny, but it grows on you." - MINNEAPOLIS STAR TRIBUNE

After those sorts of kick ass reviews, give the man a chance... he'll deliver this time around... I GUARANTEE IT says the Men's Wear House suits guy.

Look at how those reviews demonstrate how CLEARLY HE FITS the Fantastic Four directorial mantle. Look at how those prove that he will easily be capable of handling the extremely deep emotionally complex and layered story of the Silver Surfer alongside Galactus... look at it... "the laugh meter running..." "corny, but it grows on you..." This is exactly the kind of positive vibe that will kindle the genius fire of Silver Surfer being brought to screen... he will share a buddy-buddy bad cop good cop type relationship with Galactus... it will be brilliant, just wait for it.BWAHAHAHAHAHA... Does anyone remember the Taxi plants on the movie boards?

[liverlips]

I REALLY want to be positive about this but it looks like the same old Fox runaround. I don't get how Namor is gonna be shoved in. I meant we are getting the Silver Surfer and most likely Galactus and Doom again. I am pretty sure they are gonna make Sue and SS have some romantic tension like they created with Doom. So sick of these cliche storylines.

I think Namor should be saved for another sequel; I'm glad they decided to use Surfer in this one as I don't think either one could carry their own movie.

[Fantastic-Boy]

CGI 100% Support!!!

[Kelly]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA... Does anyone remember the Taxi plants on the movie boards?

Ummmm.....no

[Kelly]

look, he's got the skills... after all he did direct Taxi where reviews said the following:

"A surprisingly funny, female-driven romp -- as long as you don't question too many plot particulars." - USA TODAY

"An example of the sort of fun you can have when you're not taking yourself -- or the job -- too seriously." - DETROIT FREE PRESS

"Latifah and Fallon are an unlikely comedy team but they keep the laugh meter running" - JACKIECOOPER.COM

"Corny, but it grows on you." - MINNEAPOLIS STAR TRIBUNE

After those sorts of kick ass reviews, give the man a chance... he'll deliver this time around... I GUARANTEE IT says the Men's Wear House suits guy.

Look at how those reviews demonstrate how CLEARLY HE FITS the Fantastic Four directorial mantle. Look at how those prove that he will easily be capable of handling the extremely deep emotionally complex and layered story of the Silver Surfer alongside Galactus... look at it... "the laugh meter running..." "corny, but it grows on you..." This is exactly the kind of positive vibe that will kindle the genius fire of Silver Surfer being brought to screen... he will share a buddy-buddy bad cop good cop type relationship with Galactus... it will be brilliant, just wait for it.

Its funny how you forget Barbershop....a movie he directed, helped to write, etc. It was highly rated by moviegoers as well as critics.

"It excels because, unlike so many other Hollywood movies of its ilk, it offers hope."
(http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-1115979/reviews.php?critic=columns&sortby=default&page=1&rid=782907)
-- Derek Tse (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/author-4404/), JAM! MOVIES (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/source-234/)
(http://www.rottentomatoes.com/source-1226/)
(http://www.rottentomatoes.com/source-499/)
[/URL][LEFT] "...a charmer of a comedy, rich in the traditions of American camaraderie."

-- John J. Puccio (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/source-28/), DVDTOWN.COM (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/source-745/)

"A genuinely funny ensemble comedy that also asks its audience -- in a heartwarming, nonjudgmental kind of way -- to consider what we value in our daily lives."
-- [URL="http://www.rottentomatoes.com/author-4514/"]Sean Piccoli (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-1115979/reviews.php?critic=columns&sortby=default&page=4&rid=782920), SOUTH FLORIDA SUN-SENTINEL (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/source-506/)
(http://www.rottentomatoes.com/source-1024/)

"Like a veteran head cutter, Barbershop is tuned in to its community."
-- Sean O'Connell (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/author-1255/), ECLIPSE MAGAZINE (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/source-862/)

(http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-1115979/reviews.php?critic=columns&sortby=default&page=1&rid=778088) "As warm as it is wise, deftly setting off uproarious humor with an underlying seriousness that sneaks up on the viewer, providing an experience that is richer than anticipated."
(http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-1115979/reviews.php?critic=columns&sortby=default&page=1&rid=782586)-- Kevin Thomas (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/author-739/), LOS ANGELES TIMES (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/source-268/)
(http://www.rottentomatoes.com/source-400/)
"Amid the new populist comedies that underscore the importance of family tradition and familial community, one would be hard-pressed to find a movie with a bigger, fatter heart than Barbershop."
-- Jan Stuart (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/author-1128/), NEWSDAY (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/source-338/)

What I take from this is....when he is in it from the very beginning, writing, directing, putting it all together....he delivers. My hope is that now he is in it from the beginning....and my hope is he can deliver.

[Kelly]

Namor????? are we on him again...

As far as Red's thoughts on the love triangle.....I don't think its going to be a love triangle at all.....why do people from the movie keep calling it that.....there wasn't a love triangle in the first movie....and I think the same thing is going to happen.

I think Sue is totally in love with Reed and we will see that, but she feels compassion (not love) compassion for this man from another world who needs (in her opinion) help. He sees in her something he hasn't felt from someone before and he is drawn to that......THATS my opinion on that subject.

[terry78]

^People like to gripe about Story being chosen because Fox wanted to cash in on the cheap, and while some of that may be true, Barbershop showed that he can do dysfunctional characters that ultimately are there for each other.

[GL's Light]

You got your edit in before I could crack a joke about Sue being narcissistic, JMAfan. ;)

[Kelly]

^People like to gripe about Story being chosen because Fox wanted to cash in on the cheap, and while some of that may be true, Barbershop showed that he can do dysfunctional characters that ultimately are there for each other.

And they have every right to gripe about that....I'm not going to sit here and say all is well in the halls of Fox as far as this sequel is concerned. I want changes, and I hope they are there....

But I REFUSE to write this movie off, and sit here and throw around "it sucks"...."it gonna bomb"....etc...etc....I heard the same about the first, and even with all of my dislikes of the first, MANY, MANY people enjoyed the hell out of it, and for that I'm happy. I have hope for the sequel, and that hope is more than some peoples simple desire to come here and crap all over something they haven't seen yet. BUT we will have many....I could probably name them.....but I will refrain.:o

[Kelly]

You got your edit in before I could crack a joke about Sue being narcissistic, JMAfan. ;)

I have super speedy fingers....:)

[weezerspider]

I don't really mind. sounds kinda cool

[antariksh]

And they have every right to gripe about that....I'm not going to sit here and say all is well in the halls of Fox as far as this sequel is concerned. I want changes, and I hope they are there....

But I REFUSE to write this movie off, and sit here and throw around "it sucks"...."it gonna bomb"....etc...etc....I heard the same about the first, and even with all of my dislikes of the first, MANY, MANY people enjoyed the hell out of it, and for that I'm happy. I have hope for the sequel, and that hope is more than some peoples simple desire to come here and crap all over something they haven't seen yet. BUT we will have many....I could probably name them.....but I will refrain.:o

HEY i love FANTASTIC FOUR :up:

[Kelly]

HEY i love FANTASTIC FOUR :up:

ok...

[Advanced Dark]

Best idea...period. Hulk worked...thing sounded great but clearly a guy in a suit. A cosmic herald to galactus...CGI or bust. Period.

[Iceburgeruk]

But it's sad to have to resort to a (silver) strap-on. :(

There's the source of the Surfer-Reed conflict - a guy with no penis meets a guy who can shape his penis into any size he wants. That's a recipe for jealous aggression if I've ever seen one.

Unless the "any size guy" has endurance problems in that field and the no penis guy doesn`t need one coz he can focus cosmic energy into the...ahem...specific region and you know... give the woman in question a...ahem....quick burst of universal force...from across the other side of the room. Then things would be the other way round wouldn`t they.

lol

Silver Surfer: Sorry reed sue`s leaving with me looks like i just have...magic fingers.

[gvcool2]

Ign have just reported that actor James Lee who is appearing in Snakes On A Plane has been rumoured to of screentested for the role. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1470550/

Also if there has'n't already been a thread dedicated to the casting of the surfer than lets make this one the official thread.

[antariksh]

hmmm I have no clue who this actor is

OH so that they are planning to use CGI on him??

I don't know we will come to know whether this is true at comic con.

[gvcool2]

hmmm I have no clue who this actor is

OH so that they are planning to use CGI on him??

I don't know we will come to know whether this is true at comic con.

ye they will probably do a technique similar to andy serkis/king kong,

apparntly they have been doing screen tests for a short while so maybe we will have a definete casting announcement at comic con

[antariksh]

ye they will probably do a technique similar to andy serkis/king kong,

apparntly they have been doing screen tests for a short while so maybe we will have a definete casting announcement at comic con

which is good.

but u know what we have to see if this person is good enough for the role and will he do justice to SF.

I have to watch Snakes on a plane now!!!

[gvcool2]

which is good.

but u know what we have to see if this person is good enough for the role and will he do justice to SF.

I have to watch Snakes on a plane now!!!

I wana see SOAP For The Mother ****ing Snakes

[antariksh]

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/717/717254p1.html

sad part is that he is a TV ACTOR!!!!! and has a very short role in snakes on a plane!!!

F4 movie is full of TV actors lol

Except jessica alba an i think chris evans

[gvcool2]

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/717/717254p1.html

sad part is that he is a TV ACTOR!!!!! and has a very short role in snakes on a plane!!!

F4 movie is full of TV actors lol

Except jessica alba an i think chris evans

everyone has to start somewhere, and being a tv actor doesnt necesarily mean a bad actor, Julian Mcmahon happens to be an incredible actor (regardless of his performance in F4) so who knows, this guy called upstage all the Snakes On The Mother****ing Plane