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My vengeance
03-23-2006, 03:40 PM
Referring to English dubs.

Excepting Golden Boy,I personally try to steer clear of them.

Nathan
03-23-2006, 04:10 PM
Hate is hard word. Let's just say I've never come across a dub I really like.

Tamanon
03-23-2006, 04:13 PM
I hate reading while watching, so I love dubs. And there are some quite good ones out there(FMA and GiTS really spring to mind)

Nathan
03-23-2006, 04:15 PM
I hate reading while watching


Heh... Subs are actually one of the main reasons why I learned English so well. (I'm german btw.)

KingOfDreams
03-23-2006, 04:17 PM
It all depends. If I've seen the anime in Japanese (w/ subtitles) first I'll dislike the dubs but if I've seen the anime in English first I'll dislike the original.

KingOfDreams
03-27-2006, 01:33 AM
I watched Princess Mononoke in Japanese with subs for the first time today and I liked it just as well as I liked the dubbed version, which is good. The only complaint I have is that Moko is voiced by a man when the character is supposed to be female.

War Lord
03-27-2006, 01:52 AM
I welcome dubs when I think it improved the character.

For example, having Goku sounding like a girl is not the best thing to listen to, especially such a high, squeaky voice.. I'm glad they dubbed his voice under Funimation.

November Rain
03-27-2006, 05:11 AM
it depends what you begin to watch it as...

for long lasting series where there is no chance in hell i'm going to be able to watch it all (i.e. dragonball and gundam wing), i don't mind the english because that's what i've gotten used to (actually love the voice acting for gundam).

however when it comes to purchasing a dvd box set where i have the choice, i would much rather keep it subtitled.

i feel that a piece of media should be kept in as much of its original content as possible. in its purest, even subs shouldn't be allowed and a person should learn the home language in order to get the best out of it. however subtitles are a substitute that people can live with, so be it.

i'd also like to point out that i find it far easier to go from listening dubs to subs than the other way around. going from hearing japanese to sometimes some really poor american voice acting can be quite horrid.

plus ranting in japanese is and will always be better than the english equivalent.

The Hurricane
03-27-2006, 07:23 AM
Depends if I can be bothered reading them or not. But I do hate them yes. Sometimes they can do a god job though. None come to mind

Elijya
03-27-2006, 10:30 AM
I have absolutely no problem with dubs. I prefer to watch my anime rather then read it and miss what's going on on the rest of the screen. Only occassionally do the american voices irritate me so much I have to switch to subs

Silver Sable
03-27-2006, 12:18 PM
Not really

WallCrawl
03-27-2006, 12:18 PM
I used to, considering dub jobs used to be horrendous. But they have been getting consistently better and better, as this little niche market grows. You can argue and complain about the quality of dubs or dubs vs subs all you want, but the fact that they're better than they used to be is undeniable.

I still watch most anime with subs though.

PancakeBoobies
03-27-2006, 12:30 PM
V Dub :confused:

WallCrawl
03-27-2006, 12:41 PM
V Dub :confused:

...engineering in da house? :confused:

ster
03-27-2006, 02:21 PM
For DBZ I dislike the subs because the japanese voice actors have these really, really loud, shrill voice and they all sound like little boys or girls. And the music also sucks on the DBZ subs as well.

Nathan
03-27-2006, 02:31 PM
For DBZ I dislike the subs because the japanese voice actors have these really, really loud, shrill voice and they all sound like little boys or girls. And the music also sucks on the DBZ subs as well.

Yeah, the Goku family and children = Everyone in DBZ :rolleyes:

Oh, and about the Music "Rock the dragon" is all I'm gonna say. :down

ster
03-27-2006, 02:50 PM
That's not just the Goku family that sounds that way, motard.

Nathan
03-27-2006, 02:54 PM
Well, then be so nice and point out all the characters that sound like little boys and girls. Except for the Goku Family and some insignificant others like Chaozu there aren't a lot.

hippie_hunter
03-27-2006, 03:09 PM
I like the dubs.

WallCrawl
03-27-2006, 06:34 PM
For DBZ I dislike the subs because the japanese voice actors have these really, really loud, shrill voice and they all sound like little boys or girls. And the music also sucks on the DBZ subs as well.

I prefer the original voices. Granted, the pitch and tone of Goku and Sons takes a while to get used to, but it'll happen. Plus, they sound a lot better when they're yelling/screaming in Japanese; much more raw, feral and emotional. And yelling is a big part of Dragonball.

TheVileOne
03-27-2006, 07:54 PM
No I don't, and I think whining about dubs is stupidity now. Especially with DVD and so much anime on DVD.

Dread
03-27-2006, 08:50 PM
I'm one of those strange anime fans who actually prefers dubs, or should I say GOOD dubs. I'm usually just too lazy to want to read subtitles and often feel that a solid acting team can make me appreciate the character more than coping with a Japanese voice and reading the text. But it depends on what you were exposed to first. For anime overall, it was dubs. But for, say, NARUTO, it was subs, so the Viz Media dubbed episodes "sound" odd.

I agree with TheVileOne in the sense that since the market has shifted exclusively to DVD since about 2002, the choice between dubs and subs isn't nearly as dire beyond personal preference. Back when anime was strictly VHS, you would need to find a seperate tape for a dub or sub, and the subbed episodes, at least in my experience, were often more expensive (by about $5-$10). Now that a DVD can have both dubs and subs as a simple LANGUAGE option for the same price, it's not as big a deal. I started getting anime back in the early 90's before a lot of current otakus were, ahem, "spoiled" a bit by DVD's, CN and illegal downloading.

For comedy series I find that a dub is more essential; I've tried watching some LUPIN THE THIRD movies in subtitles and it just loses some of the charm that a solid VA can deliver. The issue of course is that a poor dub is a poor dub and the notion of it being dubbed won't aid in the quality.

Plus, I've liked cartoons since I was a kid so I always have a soft spot for voice actors, so I like dubs because it allows me to hear a lot of them do some work, and remember actors who have been "good", as they often move around. For example, it brightened my day when I read the cast list for X-MEN EVOLUTION and saw that so many old time Viz actors had roles in that show, especially Mark Hildreth (he voiced Warren/Angel on EVOLUTION but also was the voice of Terry Bogard from the FATAL FURY movies, which was the first "series" I got into).

So I'm pro-dubbed. Nothing helps a good anime stand out for me than a well written script that is well acted by dubbers.

oakzap425
03-27-2006, 09:10 PM
I prefer to watch it in Japanese with English Subtitles.

Elijya
03-27-2006, 10:04 PM
Dubs on live action movies drive me up the wall. But dubs on Anime I don't mind at all.

hey, that rhymed...

KingOfDreams
03-27-2006, 10:07 PM
Dubs on live action movies drive me up the wall.

Yeah. That's annoying as hell.

Honey Vibe
03-27-2006, 10:08 PM
Heh... Subs are actually one of the main reasons why I learned English so well. (I'm german btw.)
Really? Were you taking English classes and the subtitled-films were just supportive, or did you really learn english by watching subtitled-films? I ask because I want to learn spanish, and there are plenty of spanish films with english subtitles. I just want an idea of how far I could get.

To answer the question, I won't buy the anime without the dub. Which is why I've been waiting so long for DNAngel :(

TheVileOne
03-27-2006, 10:24 PM
FYI,

almost all anime is animated before audio and dialogue is recorded.

That's why I find anime/animation dubbing more tolerable than live action dubbing.

Nathan
03-28-2006, 03:01 AM
Really? Were you taking English classes and the subtitled-films were just supportive, or did you really learn english by watching subtitled-films?

I had normal classes in school. But reading subs, watching Movies in English and reading manga scans helped a lot.

Mandi-chan
03-28-2006, 05:36 AM
It depends on if it's good or not.

I love (and think the dub is better):

Wolf's Rain
Tenchi Muyo

Some anime I like both version to:

Sailor Moon (I only like the Dic/Pioneer dub oddly enough, hated the Cloverway one)

...okay, that's only one.

The rest, so far, I liked better in japanese.

oakzap425
03-28-2006, 09:35 AM
Really? Were you taking English classes and the subtitled-films were just supportive, or did you really learn english by watching subtitled-films? I ask because I want to learn spanish, and there are plenty of spanish films with english subtitles. I just want an idea of how far I could get.

To answer the question, I won't buy the anime without the dub. Which is why I've been waiting so long for DNAngel :(


...The DNAngel thin pack box set has been out since about Christmas, and it's only like 60 bucks... :confused:

My vengeance
03-28-2006, 10:59 AM
Dubs on live action movies drive me up the wall. But dubs on Anime I don't mind at all.

hey, that rhymed...
But when they don't synchronise it's also funny as hell.

Elijya
03-28-2006, 11:07 AM
yeah, but that sucks if it's a serious movie

Wolfwood
03-28-2006, 04:07 PM
The only dub i've ever really HATED is Luffy's voice in One Piece, I can't watch the dub version because of that voice.

WallCrawl
03-28-2006, 05:43 PM
The only dub i've ever really HATED is Luffy's voice in One Piece, I can't watch the dub version because of that voice.

That's because they did a piss poor job. They really did.

Wolfwood
03-30-2006, 01:10 AM
That's because they did a piss poor job. They really did.

I just can't believe someone heard that voice and thought "Yah, this is the sound I want to hear everyday while I'm working here."

mystic gohan
03-30-2006, 04:49 AM
nope i actualy like them except for the british voice actors in 3 dbz movies they destroyed the whole movies for me even thought i am british myself

Alexia Dark
03-30-2006, 01:34 PM
I tend to enjoy the dubs, because they help relate the story more. The unstressed nature of the Japanese language and their spoken mannerisms sometimes caused me to disconnect a little from the story. I understand this now, so it doesn't bother me, but I still prefer good English dubs to subtitles.

Lucy in the sky
04-20-2006, 02:43 AM
I hate when something that sounds good in japanese is translated into english for example "believe it!":mad:

Timstuff
04-20-2006, 12:05 PM
Referring to English dubs.

Excepting Golden Boy,I personally can't stand them.I try to steer clear of them as much as I can.

I hate bad dubs. As long as it's halfway decent though I prefer to watch a movie dubbed, for my first time through at least. The reason why is because I feel like subtitles are too distracting from the animation and onscreen action. If the dub is horrible then I'll watch it with subtitles though.

oakzap425
04-20-2006, 12:14 PM
I hate when something that sounds good in japanese is translated into english for example "believe it!":mad:





I agree, Dattebayo!

oakzap425
04-20-2006, 12:15 PM
I tend to enjoy the dubs, because they help relate the story more. The unstressed nature of the Japanese language and their spoken mannerisms sometimes caused me to disconnect a little from the story. I understand this now, so it doesn't bother me, but I still prefer good English dubs to subtitles.



I prefer the original because of this.

MaskedManJRK
04-20-2006, 10:08 PM
I may be the odd duck here, but I don't really feel the acting when it's subtitled. Maybe it's because what I know about the language couldn't even fit a matchbox, but it just fells like someone reading lines to me.

But dubs, when they're good, are even better to me.

So, for everyone here, what do you think are the best dubbed animes? I'll submit Cowboy Bebop as #1, with Neon Genesis Evangelion as a solid second.

KingOfDreams
04-21-2006, 01:48 AM
Trigun is dubbed well I think.

TheVileOne
04-21-2006, 02:18 AM
A lot of anime is dubbed well. Especially nowadays its gotten a lot better.

Most otaku are just too stubborn or close-minded to admit it.

And once again, with DVD, the industry standard of anime is to have both Japanese and English, english subtitles, etc.

So to me its really not even a viable issue anymore. We don't live in the age of only dubbed VHS anymore.

SsM
04-21-2006, 03:07 AM
I have absolutely no problem with dubs. I prefer to watch my anime rather then read it and miss what's going on on the rest of the screen. Only occassionally do the american voices irritate me so much I have to switch to subs I feel basically the same way. I usually watch it once subtitled and then dubbed.

TheVileOne
04-21-2006, 08:04 PM
I usually watch both.

I think the sub/dub argument has become silly and pointless in most cases. I don't approve of the prejudice against people who prefer the English dubs nor the close minded attitudes of otakus who won't ever acknowledge them when they are good.

rabidfanboy
04-21-2006, 10:52 PM
^ agree

I generally watch subs, but if the English version of the script has a good enough translation then I like to watch it dubbed as well. The only time I dislike a dub is if I really can't stand the English VAs (*cough..cough..Abenobashi..cough*.)

Warhammer
04-22-2006, 02:37 PM
I enjoy English dubs alot better than original Japanese, but...

One thing I hate about English dubs are that alot of the original text is changed into something that it's not.
Some English dubs change what the original concept was.

I enjoy english dub, but it sucks when some of the original concept is changed by it.

DBZ Master
04-22-2006, 02:47 PM
Japanese is way better than English!!!

Corinthian™
04-26-2006, 01:26 AM
I don't hate dubs.. I hate horribly done dubs(mainly American)...

Here.. let me give you a small example.. this is only an example
Original Intro of GT

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uRi0WMqWFRw&search=dragonball%20gt%20intro


USA Intro

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QJiYRtg9VuA&search=dragonball%20intro%20USA



..... and then, let us contrast this with the Mexican intro

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4cMjIIcuNgU&search=dragonball%20gt%20spanish

I think this sums up what's wrong with Dubing in America...