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khoapham

03-24-2006, 06:36 PM

just got this off of aintitcool.com

Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" (Moriarty@aintitcool.com) here with some Rumblings From The Lab...

Although I can’t publish my full detailed report until May, I had a very interesting visit this week to the editing room of the new Warner Bros. film 300, directed by Zack Snyder. I walked into the encounter thinking he was a talented guy who had made a pretty good first film. I left the encounter convinced that Snyder is one of the best-kept secrets in Hollywood right now, a visionary with a wicked eye and a real feel for how to bring fantastic material to the bigscreen.

While I was there, I noticed a copy of the WATCHMEN graphic novel sitting on the desk of his office, and in our conversations about Frank Miller and his newfound luck in film translations of his work, the subject of Alan Moore came up. Snyder mentioned that he was about to meet with the producers of WATCHMEN to discuss whether or not he would come aboard to direct the long-in-development film.

I’ve been able to confirm now that Snyder has entered negotiations with Warner Bros. to helm the project, which is fantastic news. I know that all you guys have seen so far is DAWN OF THE DEAD, so that’s all you can judge him on, but trust me... 300 is a whole different ball game. When you get a load of what this guy is capable of... when you see how far he pushes things with bringing Frank Miller’s world to life... you’ll be just as excited as I am. I’ve always said that WATCHMEN had the right producers and writer attached, and I think there have been some interesting directors (Aronofsky and Greengrass) attached to it in the last few years. But with Snyder, I think the WATCHMEN may have finally found the perfect guy for the job, and I am absolutely rabid to see what he’s going to do.

And speaking of that script... I’ve heard there are some revisions underway to really fine-tune the various Hayter drafts and make sure that what ends up onscreen is the most perfect realization of Moore’s book possible. I’m hoping I can work something out where I can track down the new writer and talk with him about the work he’s doing, because I know how important this book is to so many of you. Zack Snyder said the same thing about it to me, talking about the responsibility of bringing something like WATCHMEN to life. “If I screw up 300, that would be heartbreaking, but ultimately, it’s not as well known a property. If you get WATCHMEN wrong... well...”

He didn’t have to finish the sentence, and he doesn’t have to worry. I have utmost faith that he’s going to knock it out of the park. I’m as sure of that as I am of the fact that when the trades finally report Snyder has signed as director, they won’t mention that the story broke here first. Take that to the bank.

"Moriarty" (Moriarty@aintitcool.com) out.

:):):)

iron_man7

03-24-2006, 07:32 PM

sounds good to me

ToddIsDead

03-24-2006, 07:49 PM

I'd have to see 300 before I could give him my support. The Dawn remake wasn't too bad though. I'm just glad to hear that the movie is actually starting to move. Hopefully it won't be a false start like the last few times.

Threshold

03-24-2006, 08:05 PM

If Moriarty is saying he's good for Watchmen then I'm certainly interested. I hope the script is fan-******-tastic.

Motown Marvel

03-25-2006, 12:36 AM

i'd say he's got potential. his work on dawn of the dead shows promise, but as stated above, i'd reserve judgement till i see 300.

The Guard

03-25-2006, 12:43 AM

Hayter's drafts were pure gold. And Zach Snyder is nothing if not an interesting visual director, which WATCHMEN will need. Have yet to see 300, but have heard very good things about it. This is amazingly good news.

RedIsNotBlue

03-25-2006, 01:56 AM

Man I dunno. I like Snyder but the script is my main concern. This could be great if the script doesn't get all Holly****ed.

Octoberist

03-25-2006, 02:40 AM

I hope that Synder is THE MAN. I really wished that Darren Aronkosky could do it but....I hope for the best for Zach...I can't wait for 300..

Cinemaman

03-25-2006, 03:50 AM

Zack Snyder? Good news. I hope he will be good director for WATCHMEN in vissual style and good direction.

Also I hope screenplay will b e perfect.

Octoberist

03-25-2006, 03:51 AM

We'll see Cinemmon. We'll see.

Cinemaman

03-25-2006, 03:56 AM

We'll see Cinemmon. We'll see.

Yep.

1) Watchmen can be great and perfect comic book movie, something between V for Vendetta and Batman Begins.

2) Or can be one of the worst movies.

I hope Watchmen will look like my varient 1.

SolidRoar

03-25-2006, 04:42 AM

300 is looking amazing so far. If he got it right, there's no reason why he can't do Watchmen. Do you think one movie is enough to tell Watchmen's story, though?

Cinemaman

03-25-2006, 04:48 AM

300 is looking amazing so far. If he got it right, there's no reason why he can't do Watchmen. Do you think one movie is enough to tell Watchmen's story, though?

Agreed, Snyder prooved that he is really great vissual director in 300 blogs.

BUT I don't like idea about Watchmen's sequels. One movie with 165 minutes and $85-105m budget will be enough to have all important storylines and details I think.

RedIsNotBlue

03-25-2006, 05:12 AM

Watchmen needs to be one movie...no sequels.

Cinemaman

03-25-2006, 05:15 AM

Watchmen needs to be one movie...no sequels.

Agreed:up:

Antonello Blueberry

03-25-2006, 07:13 AM

I knew they were working actively on the project:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8172799&postcount=14

Super_Ludacris

03-25-2006, 07:27 AM

Interesting stuff

Edward Brock

03-25-2006, 07:37 AM

We'll see. Until now, each time I got more excited about the project, it went down. Just as I was starting to love Greengrass's ideas, Paramount killed the movie. We'll see.

Rob_Merritt

03-25-2006, 10:18 AM

Giving the guy who botched the Dawn of the Dead remake the Watchmen? Oh this is a bad turn.

Antonello Blueberry

03-25-2006, 10:57 AM

Giving the guy who botched the Dawn of the Dead remake the Watchmen? Oh this is a bad turn.
He's not confirmed. They are meeting various persons, James McTeigue is also in the running.

"V"

03-25-2006, 11:46 AM

While Snyder can produce some nice visuals I don't think he is able to handle character development particularly well. Dawn 04 was a mess on that front, and since this is one of the cores of the Watchmen story I’m not thrilled by the news.

Does anybody have a link to the David Hayter script I hear everybody talking about?

Thanking you in advance.

BlackSymbiote

03-25-2006, 12:30 PM

Alan Moore commented on the David Hayter script in an Entertainment Weekly I think got thrown away. He said it was as close as you were going to get. I'd take that as a good sign.

Edward Brock

03-25-2006, 01:01 PM

He's not confirmed. They are meeting various persons, James McTeigue is also in the running.I don't hink so.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22694

QUINT: Before we start wrapping things up, I'd like to find out what are some of your other favorite comic properties. Are there any out there that would be dream adaptations for you?

JAMES MCTEIGUE: I guess, if I hadn't done V FOR VENDETTA, there is one on every comic book reader's shortlist, there's THE WATCHMEN. Not that I'd probably be the one to tackle that, but I'd love to see a film of that get made. I think having done an Alan Moore adaptation, it's time for me to do something else, but it'd be great if someone did that. I think whereas it would have been harder in the past, I think technology has caught up to be able to make that film. I think someone will have a go at it. I think Terry Gilliam had it for a long time and Paul Greengrass just tried to do it and there's that David Hayter script out there. I think someone will do it soon.

Threshold

03-25-2006, 01:17 PM

If Warners is happy with what Snyder is doing with 300, it wouldn't surprise me that they are going to try and keep him in house. Moriarty said that Snyder is probably one of hollywoods "best kept secrets". That's pretty high praise, which has to stem from somewhere. I'm absolutley in love with the graphic novel, but I'm not one of the purists who think it should never be tackled as a film. If Moriarty turns out to be right, I will be cautiously optimistic.

Sub-Zero

03-25-2006, 01:27 PM

i think there should be a poll to see how long THIS production will last until they scrap the project. btw i think watchmen should be done as a 12 part mini-series on hbo or scifi. a 2 hr movie isn't long enough to tell teh whole story.

Edward Brock

03-25-2006, 03:17 PM

Wow. Never heard that one before.

Capt. Jack

03-25-2006, 03:43 PM

director is important and i like snyder (fellow GB native) but its all in the script i hope they don't do anything but mildly revise hayter's script because that was damn impressive and i also hope they allow the film to be long there is just so much and a three hour watchmen film would be just fine in my mind so yeah good luck snyder i hope we finally get to see a proper watchmen film in my lifetime

sorry about punctuation

CConn

03-25-2006, 03:56 PM

Apology accepted.

TheVileOne

03-25-2006, 04:26 PM

I'm not totally buying this. Snyder would be the third proposed director this.

This movie has been thrown around by studios like a beach ball.

This also isn't the first time Moriarty has reported about a new director attached to Watchmen.

Just saying, at this stage of the game, things can change at the drop of a hat.

And since when did you guys appreciate the reporting of AICN? Which you all hate so much.

The Comedian

03-25-2006, 08:01 PM

The last attempt got so close that they even had an official website made. All it had was wallpaper but still, it's as close as weve ever gotten

The Guard

03-25-2006, 11:58 PM

Not to be an ass, but the last two directors Moriarty reported being on WATCHMEN...were. And ended up working on two versions of the project. This probably has some truth to it, though I've heard that James McTeigue and The Wachowskis were interested in this as well, and Greengrass would still like to do it.

TheFalcon

03-26-2006, 11:45 AM

I really hope Watchmen gets made this time. I get the feeling from these articles that WB really want to get it off the ground now.

I'm glad they're using Hayter's script even if they polish it some. Wether it will be Snyder, Greengrass, McTeigue or someone else isn't too important to me right now. I trust WB to find the right one. I feel like after Batman Begins they really put some effort into trying to get their comic book movies done right.

Cinemaman

03-26-2006, 01:05 PM

People, can Amazon.com send Watchmen to Russia?

MaskedManJRK

03-26-2006, 01:08 PM

300 looks pretty b***hin' so far (haven't seen Dawn, 'cause...well...I'm a pussy and I HATE zombies), so I'd be willing to give Snyder a shot. :up:

Sub-Zero

03-26-2006, 04:32 PM

People, can Amazon.com send Watchmen to Russia?

huh?

larryfilmmaker

03-26-2006, 04:53 PM

I just reread "Watchmen" and the Rorschak/Night Owl team is GREAT as far as personalities and stuff go. Hope they don't rearrange everything like they've done w/ other comic movies on this one. It's great the way it is.

The Guard

03-26-2006, 10:56 PM

Antonello Blueberry

03-27-2006, 05:54 AM

People, can Amazon.com send Watchmen to Russia?
Yes, they probably can. Otherwise try with Amazon.co.uk (or Torrent if you're desperate).

Cinemaman

03-27-2006, 06:03 AM

Yes, they probably can. Otherwise try with Amazon.co.uk (or Torrent if you're desperate).

Thanx.

Antonello Blueberry

03-27-2006, 11:53 AM

I don't hink so.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22694

http://iesb.net/upcomingfilm/022806.php

Sandman138

03-27-2006, 06:06 PM

David Hayter's WATCHMEN script is fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. There are only minor issues with it. Yes, it distills it to the main storylines, but it is still a fantastic script. And it kept the Night Owl/Rorschach stuff intact.

My big problem with it was the introduction. I don't think that tying the "Who watches the watchmen?" movement down to a failure on their part is a good idea.

Antonello Blueberry

03-27-2006, 06:15 PM

My big problem with it was the introduction. I don't think that tying the "Who watches the watchmen?" movement down to a failure on their part is a good idea.
That's Sam Hamm's script.

Banshee

03-27-2006, 06:22 PM

Is there anyway to read the Hayter script

Sandman138

03-27-2006, 06:43 PM

That's Sam Hamm's script.

Ah, okay then. I'd be interested to read Hayter's take on it then. Hamm's script was really bad.

larryfilmmaker

03-27-2006, 08:17 PM

Yeah where can I find Hayter's version?

Movies205

03-27-2006, 09:45 PM

To be honest it's pretty harsh to judge Snyder on Dawn of the Dead since he was probably asked to delivar a fun-horror movie and he did. But from all indication he seems like a good enough canidate.

matrix_ghost

03-29-2006, 12:36 PM

Well i found Snyder's version of DawnOf The Dead to be thorougly entertaining and still be able to have some good ol'discussions.

I do think that remakes should be made when movies don't age well. And in all fairness the original Dawn Of The Dead doesn't age well.

From the look of 300 , they've got it right. Frank Miller is working with the director so that's a huge huge plus.

Who knows , maybe Znyder will use the same shooting technique of 300 on Watchmen. It would certainly help to bring down the budget.

ToddIsDead

03-29-2006, 12:40 PM

After seeing V for Vendetta, I think that James McTeigue could do one hell of a job.

Sub-Zero

03-29-2006, 01:09 PM

teigue could be cool.

Caliber

04-03-2006, 04:08 AM

If they get a good script make it but if not don't make it. I think Chirs Nolan is the perfect director for this.

Sandman138

04-03-2006, 04:45 PM

I'm interested to see if the Wachowskis try to get themselves connected to this project in some function. If they would come on as producers the movie would definatly get off the ground.

Sandman138

04-03-2006, 04:50 PM

If they get a good script make it but if not don't make it. I think Chirs Nolan is the perfect director for this.

He's really not. Nolan is good with alternitive storytelling. His two best films were The Following and Memento. He's still got a lot of room to grow as a director of performances. Watchmen is not entirely linear, but for the most part, it follows a straight course with a few interjections here and there that are also heading in the same direction. I'm assuming a lot of the interjections got cut out anyways, so the main thing a director has to bring to this movie is the ability to construct believable relationships. What makes Watchmen so amazing is that it's a look at how human beings become symbollic tools of political agendas. If you can't pass these people off as human beings, then everything else falls apart. McTeigue did a really good job with V, although it may have as much to do with Hugo Weaving as his direction. I don't know about Snyder, so far 300 looks visualy breathtaking, but so did Sin City and that had precious little when it came to believable performances. I'll wait and see.

ToddIsDead

04-03-2006, 04:53 PM

I'm interested to see if the Wachowskis try to get themselves connected to this project in some function. If they would come on as producers the movie would definatly get off the ground.
Yeah, after seeing V for Vendetta, I would be totally fine with that.

Sandman138

04-03-2006, 04:55 PM

Yeah, after seeing V for Vendetta, I would be totally fine with that.

Well, the one problem that I see is that they wrote the script to V. Watchmen apparently has a good script already. I'm wondering if the role of producer would be enough for them. I'd rather not see them directing.

Sandman138

04-03-2006, 11:41 PM

So, who would you cast? My votes go to:

Rorschach: Keifer Sutherland. I personally think he's perfect.
Ozymandias: Jude Law. He's talented and he seemed really enthusiastic the last go around. I say let him have it.
Nite Owl: Clive Owen. I was gonna put down Edward Norton, but I think Clive Owen is a better choice based on his role in Closer.
Silk Spectre: Julianne Moore. She's very versitile, I think she could could play a very convincing Laurie Juspeczyk.
The Comedian: Harvey Keitel. There's almost assuredly a better choice. But I think Keitel could play an aging Blake very well.
Dr. Manhattan: I'm not sure. Any suggestions?

cerealkiller182

04-04-2006, 09:18 AM

Rorschach- Jeffrey Combs
Oztmandias- Val Kilmer
Nite Owl- John CUsack
Silk Spectre- Dont know, theres quite a few different actresses i would be content with
The Comedian- Bruce Campbell
Dr. Manhattan- Billy Zane

ToddIsDead

04-04-2006, 09:34 AM

I haven't really thought about it much, but I have a few ideas.

Rorschach - Jeffrey Combs
Ozimandias - Jude Law
Nite Owl - Jeff Daniels

That's really all I can think of. I'm sure who ever is cast in the movie will be good.

Cinemaman

04-04-2006, 01:20 PM

For me, the most important thing about casting is will they look like their characters well? and of course I want big stars to play main heroes.

CrimsonMist

04-04-2006, 03:59 PM

i personally think Rorschach should be played by an unknown or relatively lesser known actor. The whole unmasking thing comes as a shock to the reader, becuase it turns out to be the street crazy guy, so if you get a big actor to play that part, it MAY give it away.

cerealkiller182

04-04-2006, 04:48 PM

JEffery Combs for Rorschach. Hes not known to the general public but he has a cult following since hes been in so many horror movies. He is a decent actor and I;m basing this casting choice on his protrayal of the Question in JLU. When they see him on the street no one will be able to tell its his voice under the mask, although i thought that was very apparent from the comic. Combs doesnt exactly look like the red head or is he in good shape (i dont think he is), but i would say he is the best for the role.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kt_Ng310ve8&search=The%20Question
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Di9yH1jQaxo&search=The%20Question
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lT_i7mAIGsg&search=The%20Question%2C%20JLU

watch those. For those who dont know Combs plays the question (the man without a face)

Sandman138

04-04-2006, 05:26 PM

CrimsonMist

04-04-2006, 10:25 PM

Sub-Zero

04-04-2006, 10:43 PM

rorschach: robert carlyle( he was the bad guy in the world is not enough)
ozymandias: val kilmer
niteowl:john cusack
niteowl I: adam west or paul newman
comedian: bruce campbell
silk spectre II: jennifer connelly
moloch: christopher walken
nixon: jack nicholson

cerealkiller182

04-05-2006, 11:28 AM

isnt he also Herbert West in the Re-Animator films?

yup

Darth Nata

04-06-2006, 05:21 AM

I know this is very, very unlikely but I think it would be cool if McTeigue and Snyder Co-Directed.

Cinemaman

04-06-2006, 10:11 AM

I know this is very, very unlikely but I think it would be cool if McTeigue and Snyder Co-Directed.

I have no idea how it can be. They have different vissual styles.

And if 300 is really good as comic book adaptation and just movie, Snyder will be good choice for Watchmen.

CrimsonMist

04-06-2006, 09:26 PM

well, i have some new information regarding Alan Moore's view on this movie. im pals with Kurt Amacker over at the Cinescape website and today, he interviewed Alan Moore. I was taking to him yesterday, and asked him if he could ask Mr.Moore what his opinion on the David Hayter draft was for me(becuase supposedly, he read it and liked it). Well, Kurt asked him, and Mr. Moore said he enjoyed it and felt it was as close to the book as any script possible, but he still doesnt want to see it made into a movie. And then he went on an hilarious rant about hollywood adaptations and hollywood in general.

so yea, the interview should be up next Wednesday in 2 parts. Just informing you guys.

Motown Marvel

04-06-2006, 10:45 PM

i still think Sean Bean would be the perfect rorschach.
http://www.virgin.net/movies/galleries/theislandpremiere/pix/03_main.jpg

Sandman138

04-07-2006, 12:51 AM

I was thinking about that too. You know who he's really perfect for though? Solid Snake.

ToddIsDead

04-07-2006, 09:40 AM

I was thinking about that too. You know who he's really perfect for though? Solid Snake.
I never thought of him as Snake but that's actually a really good idea :up:

Cinemaman

04-08-2006, 07:34 AM

I think Clive Owen would be perfect Nite Owl II.

cerealkiller182

04-08-2006, 10:44 AM

I think Clive Owen would be perfect Nite Owl II.

Everyone seems to like Clive Owen. I dont think hes right for Nite-Owl II. First of all, he plays the same guy in every movie. Hes brooding and monotone and acts like a tough guy. He does it well, but thats not Nite-Owl and i didnt think it was Dwight from Sin City either. He played that character so differenet than i imagined it. Owen just talks with such an angry tone or montone voice. Its very unappealing for Nite-Owl. I personally think John Cusack is good.

The Guard

04-08-2006, 11:29 AM

Cusack isn't Nite-Owl either. He's not physically right for the part, and I think it would turn into something of a parody. Someone like Kurt Russell would be good, I think. An edge, but able play it as his edges having gone soft.

PhotoJones

04-08-2006, 11:55 AM

I think Clive Owen would be perfect Nite Owl II.

agreed.

Antonello Blueberry

04-08-2006, 12:35 PM

Are we turning this into another casting thread?

IKnowSomeJudo

04-08-2006, 06:01 PM

Goddamn casting threads.

Sandman138

04-08-2006, 06:32 PM

Everyone seems to like Clive Owen. I dont think hes right for Nite-Owl II. First of all, he plays the same guy in every movie. Hes brooding and monotone and acts like a tough guy. He does it well, but thats not Nite-Owl and i didnt think it was Dwight from Sin City either. He played that character so differenet than i imagined it. Owen just talks with such an angry tone or montone voice. Its very unappealing for Nite-Owl. I personally think John Cusack is good.

Did you see Closer? Not the same character as his other work at all.

Sandman138

04-08-2006, 06:36 PM

Are we turning this into another casting thread?

Hopefully it can be an all around discussion of what we would like to see from/in a Watchmen movie?

IKnowSomeJudo

04-17-2006, 01:02 PM

Do you like cookies? I like cookies.

matrix_ghost

04-18-2006, 06:40 PM

Sure send it to me too :D

Darth Nata

04-19-2006, 05:20 AM

J.J. Abrams should direct Watchmen and he, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse should write the screenplay...

cerealkiller182

04-19-2006, 09:13 AM

I could live with Abrams. He's pretty good at making cool action/adventures but with an interesting plot (at least semi-interesting)

I think Alex Proyas would be best. The style of The Crow and Dark City I think are close to what Watchmen is albeit the constant darkness.

matrix_ghost

04-19-2006, 09:56 AM

Agreed.

Proyas may not be someone who knows alot of comic books ( i think) but he still someone who respects the medium and stays close to it , just as long as studio interference doesn't screw it up.

I mean Asimov must be spinning in his grave with I,ROBOT. God that sucked ass.

Abrams , i dunno. I just dunno. He's IMO a bit too commercial to do such a thing. I mean look at what he would've done with Superman.
I just think that he wouldn't treat the source material with enough respect.

I mean if the script is so hard to write down , why go to all the trouble if 1) Hayter's script is ready , 2) has been reviewed by comic book fans and loved by them and 3) moore approves of.

If Proyas and Hayter worked together , icould see this movie work.
But then again , so many other directors also can make this movie great.

Bottomline is 1) Get a director who respects the material enough and has (some) comic book knowledge , 2) go with Hayter's script and 3) get a good cast.

Antonello Blueberry

04-19-2006, 07:19 PM

For the record, they're still using Hayter's script but they have another writer doing a draft based on that script.
And Proyas, who's someone familiar with comic-books, in the past expressed interest in doing Watchmen.

Sandman138

04-19-2006, 07:28 PM

cerealkiller182

04-19-2006, 08:47 PM

I'd rather avoid "dark" and "edgey" directors like Proyas. This film needs somone who's into totally turning the idea of genre on it's head. The worst thing that could happen to Watchmen is becoming a genre film, since the book was all about destroying genre, similar to Barthelme's Postmodern Snow White. I really liked the idea of Gilliam doing the movie, and was dissapointed that he dropped out. They would never do it, but I imagine somone like Jim Jarmusch or the Coen Brothers being perfect for a Watchmen movie.

I feel like it turned the genre of superhero films on its head, but made it into a noir film. So thats kinda the way I was thinking with Proyas.

Gilliam- too surreal even for this movie. i love Gilliam though and prolly wont be dissapointed in that choice

I like Coens and they are usually good at conforming to genre in a way that they get the humor in O Brother and LEbowski but still the crime drama of their other movies

i like Jarmusch's style but I rarely like his movies.

I think it might be a good idea to get a new director who hasnt found a style of his own that way he could make a more direct translation and stay true to the original source without cluttering it with their own style.

Sandman138

04-19-2006, 11:22 PM

I feel like it turned the genre of superhero films on its head, but made it into a noir film. So thats kinda the way I was thinking with Proyas.

I think the only thing that was "film nior" about Watchmen was that it was subversive. Outside of that, it was much more of a dramatic tragedy. People make the mistake of thinking that Watchmen is predominantly a whodunnit. While there is certianly the mystery driving things towards their conclusion, Watchmen is much more about the way resistance is co-opted by those in power and ultimatly subjugated. Dr. Manhattan may be a god, but he is first and foremost American, and as an American he is nothing more than the newest weapon. That Moore made reference to EC and its imitators with the pirate comic sub-plot shows just how little room there seems to be for resitance in the world of superheroes. Yet ultimatly the world is saved not by black and white morality, but by ambiguity. This is what Watchmen is about, and I personally don't think Proyas could deliver that.

Gilliam- too surreal even for this movie. i love Gilliam though and prolly wont be dissapointed in that choice

Dr. Manhattan is certianly a surreal character, and Gilliam certianly proved with Brazil that he knows how to create distopias that, while escapist in many ways, also echo our own fears about where we might be heading towards.

I like Coens and they are usually good at conforming to genre in a way that they get the humor in O Brother and LEbowski but still the crime drama of their other movies

The reason that I like the Coens is that they consistantly redefine whichever genre they choose to work in whether its a suspense thriller (Fargo) a mythic quest (O Brother, Where Art Thou?) or morality play (The Ladykillers). If Watchmen doesn't redefine the superhero genre for movies, it will be a complete and utter failure.

i like Jarmusch's style but I rarely like his movies.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. One thing I will say is that Jarmusch is great at writing encounters that don't lead to nice clean answers, in other words, ironies. Watchmen would benifit from that.

I think it might be a good idea to get a new director who hasnt found a style of his own that way he could make a more direct translation and stay true to the original source without cluttering it with their own style.

Stay true in what sense? If your talking about the "style" in a visual sense, that matters very little in this adaptation. Watchmen, moreso than most works that have been adaptaded, is about concepts. What this movie needs is a director willing to approach the concepts that Watchmen puts forth in an honest manner and not dumb them down for the sake of making another superhero movie, or even making a film for the fans.

cerealkiller182

04-20-2006, 12:24 PM

Stay true in what sense? If your talking about the "style" in a visual sense, that matters very little in this adaptation. Watchmen, moreso than most works that have been adaptaded, is about concepts. What this movie needs is a director willing to approach the concepts that Watchmen puts forth in an honest manner and not dumb them down for the sake of making another superhero movie, or even making a film for the fans.

Thats exactly what i was trying to get at. Most directors take on certain consistencies in their work whether it be visual or storytelling, and it would be a shame for that to clutter Moore's story.

larryfilmmaker

04-20-2006, 01:48 PM

it'd be awesome to have Jim Caviezel (Christ himself) play Adrien Veidt (more or less the anti-christ w/ his good looks, likableness, and plan to murder the world)

IKnowSomeJudo

04-20-2006, 02:06 PM

David Greengrass should return and continue where he and Hayter left off. Things seemed to be going in the right direction until the project unfortunately got sihtcanned by Paramount. After reading that interview with him, you could tell he really, really gets Watchmen and really wanted to make that movie.

Then again, with Coen brothers at helm, that would mean William H Macy would 100% sure be cast as Rorschach...and that would rule.

But no... no. Get Greengrass, he was and still is the right guy for the job.

CrimsonMist

04-20-2006, 09:11 PM

IKnowSomeJudo

04-21-2006, 03:41 AM

No problemo, dude. It's all about sharing with other fans...

matrix_ghost

04-21-2006, 03:29 PM

thnx a bunch for that script man.

You know , i actually like the script better then the books since it gives closure. I always found the ending to be very unsatisfying with everyone with the exception of rorschach.

I like this one more. And from the looks of it , it seems that a PG rating isn't that far away.

cerealkiller182

06-01-2006, 05:16 PM

I have been rereading Watchmen and i thought, if they make the movie it might be a good idea to use the rotoscoping effect (Richard Linklater's process of animating over live-action reels; see Waking Life and upcoming A Scanner Darkly-trailer here (http://www.apple.com/trailers/warner_independent_pictures/ascannerdarkly/)

I think this would work best for a few reasons.

-First of all, it will be able to depict everything about Doc Manhattan, Rorschachs ever changing mask, the strange tiger, Doc's Mars castle, and the ridiculous alien at the end.

-Second, since it takes place over so many years, it would be easy to age some of the actors by animating over their older selves.

-Third, anything the actors do not feel comfortable doing (nudity, stunts, uncomfortable costumes) could be completly animated over their live actions selves.

What do you think? I think its a pretty good idea, but i think I'd take a Watchmen movie anyway I could.