Design your own Story Concept(s) for the Sequel to Superman Returns

[Kane]

Post some ideas for how you would handle a sequel to SR:

My ideal sequel would feature Brainiac and Darkseid. (see JL episode "Twillight")

Its likely Brainiac will be hinted towards the end of SR like Joker was in Begins. He could be a supercomputer that landed on Earth in 78 from Vril Dox (around the same time as Clark). He merged with Milton Fine and over the past decades has been amassing knowledge....he can corrupt and assimilate technological and biological systems.

I want the movie to center around Superman's quest to rescue another Kryptonian when he realizes there may have been one more survived, frozen in stasis for 30 years. Darkseid has possession of this person on the wartorn Apokalips and as Superman plans to do whatever it takes to save his person, Darksied is planning a fullscale invasion of Apokolips' neighboring planet, New Genesis.

Brainiac takes over control of all of Lexcorp's weapons and arsenal; missles, mecha, assult tech etc and theres a war for the domination of Earth. Richard White (now Lois' husband) is killed when the Lexcorp building explodes, reminiscent of the WTC. Superman was in space piloting his ship in search of the other kryptonian (STAS style), tracing her signal and coming very close to locating her, during the attack and arrived too late. He learns a tragic lesson that as much as he wants to be there to save everyone, he cant...he has limitations.

Superman wants to be there for Lois and her son in this dark time and this may be the only chance for him to repair his relationship with her, but he knows he cant...the world needs him. Hes forced to face the reality that if he leaves her again, especially now, he'll never get another chance to be with her again.

In addition to trying to avert a massive war for domination of the human race (Brainiac), Superman must travel far into deep space to save this other survivor of Krypton from Darkseid's evil grasp. He must save the last daughter of Krypton, a young child (about 12) named Kara Zor-El, his biological cousin. She obviously doesnt become Supergirl in this movie (not for some years) but shes the element that Superman puts everything on the line to save, including his relationship with Lois and with humanity, .....and he doesnt even know if this Kryptonian girl really exists or a deception by Darkseid to lure him away from Earth..

But she exists....and is in great peril.

With the planet New Genesis (full of innocent lives) also on the verge of destruction at the hands of Darkseid's Apokolips....Superman must save 2 worlds; New Genesis (A utopia that reminds him of what Krypton would have been like) and Earth. Can he? Or will he have to make the ultimate decision between them of which to save at the expense of billions of innocent lives being lost. Will the outcome of this final act mirror the tragedy earlier in the movie where Superman couldnt save Richard and the people in the Lexcorp tower?

Is this mysterious Kryptonian child that Superman seeks the key to saving both worlds and unlocking the Kryptonian secrets to Superman's Birthright?

This idea humanizes Superman again, forcing him to make important choices (Singer style) and then adds an outworldy element that takes Superman out of the confines of Earth and into the endless reaches of deep space (my own vision). The story of the New Gods (Apokalips/New Genesis wars) could be told through a origins flashback introducing the backstory (similar to STAS who were succesfully able to deal with the New God story and Darkseid in a 2 part episode). This movie will feature Brainiac's first appearance, but not his last.......After Fine's body is destroyed, the Brainiac computer will leave a trace of itself in Lex (who will be unaware of it). This element of Brainiac will re-awaken in the next film. It may subtly control some of Lex's actions; driving him to attempt to attain a position of power over the humans (US presidency) where Brainiac could get access to all US military, tech and defense knowledge.

I'd cast Hugo Weaving (V for Vendetta) as Milton Fine and Micheal Clarke Duncan (The Green Mile) as Darkseid (he has the voice).

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[TheFalcon]

I'm hoping for something like this:

Brainiac is the villain. He's a robot and they could maybe mix him abit with metallo and have his powersource be kryptonite?
He should also team-up with Luthor somehow.

My idea would be to have Luthor's company find him in a floating space-ship or something from Krypton and then take him back to Earth. Then Lex discovers his origin and tells him about Superman. They make a plan which Brainiac ultimately betrays. He tries to kill Luthor and goes after Supes himself. Luthor survives and since he is his usual arrogant self he can't stand somebody else killing Superman. Therefore he is forced to help Superman shut down Brainiac who has taken control of the worlds military through satellites.

Meanwhile Lois is on a search for Luthor to track down his location aswell as trying to be a mother to the kid. I would like to have Richard get killed in Returns so that we have a happy ending with Superman, Lois and the kid (no matter if he's Richard's, adopted or Superman's). In the end Lois finally thinks she has Luthor, but when he helps Superman defeat Brainiac he also manages to set himself up as a "hero" and he becomes untouchable.

[Kane]

If Richard gets killed in Returns, the ending to Returns would be pretty depressing and dark. Lois, Clark and the Kid (Jason) will all be depressed and mournful of the loss.

[TheFalcon]

If Richard gets killed in Returns, the ending to Returns would be pretty depressing and dark. Lois, Clark and the Kid (Jason) will all be depressed and mournful of the loss.

Yeah, but if the kid is his and Lois', which it seems to be, then that's the only thing I can see happen if they're going to reunite Lois and Superman. Of course if the kid is his from another marriage or Superman's it wouldn't be as big of a problem.

He doesn't have to die a "tragic" death either. He could do something heroic to save Lois or Superman and die because of that. You couldn't restart Superman and Lois relationship directly after that of course, but him getting killed doesn't automatically mean the movie should have a depressing/dark ending.

I'm just hoping that they somehow end the movie with a happy reunion and restart of the relationship between Lois and Superman. With or without the kid.

A Superman movie should have a happy ending.

[Kane]

If Richard dies, I think it would be too soon for Superman to move in. Honestly Superman Returns should end with a resolution where Superman and Lois finally put the past behind them. Superman, seeing how happy Lois is with her new family, lets her be and says he'll always be there for her, but they wont be together. In the sequel, upon Richard's death, he would try to be there for her in that dark time...

I dont think they should officially get back together till the third movie, where some time has passed. I dont believe the kid is Supermans anyways, it seems more like Lois and Richard's biological child.

[The Overlord]

Twlight worked as an episode because Brainiac and Darkseid's character were already introduced in STAS, in a movie it wouldn't work because it take too much time to introduce to major characters like Brainiac and Darksied in the same movie.

[Kane]

Well like I said. Brainiac is hinted in Returns and fully introduced in the sequel...but not fully resolved, he could return in the next film. (About as much focus as Scarecrow in Begins)

Darkseid is introduced in this also, his backstory told through a similar flashback sequence as done in 'Apokalips Now' (about as much focus as Ducard/Ras A Gual in Begins).

It could work and I personally want Brainiac to continue in future films (in his different forms) which is why Id rather not have an entire film focus on him and end it. I'd rather have him grow as a greater and greater treat overtime and evolve.

[Excel]

yeah i like the idea with aliens coming to town and wreaking havoc with brainiac in the backround with some big master plan and luthors his little helper. finale is a super battle with aliens.

[The Overlord]

Well like I said. Brainiac is hinted in Returns and fully introduced in the sequel...but not fully resolved, he could return in the next film. (About as much focus as Scarecrow in Begins)

Darkseid is introduced in this also, his backstory told through a similar flashback sequence as done in 'Apokalips Now' (about as much focus as Ducard/Ras A Gual in Begins).

It could work and I personally want Brainiac to continue in future films (in his different forms) which is why Id rather not have an entire film focus on him and end it. I'd rather have him grow as a greater and greater treat overtime and evolve.

Darkseid should have his own movie, he deserves that much. Please frankly I think its insulting to Darkseid to reduce him to a mere Superman rogue, he should a group threat, a JLA level villain at least. Again both brainiac and Darkseid are epic threats, putting two epic threats in one movie would not work there wouldn't be enough time to develop both of them.

[Kane]

This is Darkseid's movie though. Brainiac is just a side villian (like Scarecrow in Begins) but he doesnt end in this movie. He returns in the next, in a new form....thats why it isnt necessary to give him complete and total focus here. He may not even be revealed as Brainiac yet, its more of a setup. The power goes out, Lexcorps weapon systems out of control, armegeddon and an unknown mysterious cause at the root of it all.

Id prefer him returning in a new form in the following movie and growing as a greater threat over time, thats his nature.

And Darkseid was introduced as a regular Superman villian in 'Apokalips Now' so we know its still interesting if he goes head to head with the Man of Steel. It doesnt need to be a JLA movie to use him, I doubt we'll ever even seen one at the rate were going.

Despite that Superman (Brandon Routh) needs to interact with the following pivitol comic book characters before the franchaise is dead;

- Luthor (done)

- Brainiac

- Batman (WF movie someday hopefully)

- Darkseid

Theyre all the most intergrated superheros/villians to the Superman.

[DarKush]

Some good ideas posted. I really like the idea of Michael Clarke Duncan as Darkseid. That would be inspired casting.

A few thoughts...I think it would be cool if Richard White lived, and that really forced Lois to make a choice between him and Clark/Supes. And Supes would have to deal with the prospect of his personal desires competing with his personal sense of honor and decency. Is he really ready to break up a family? Can he really let Lois walk out of his life or be with another man?

I think the mysterious absence, and gap between Superman 2 and Superman Returns could perhaps be a way to work Darkseid in there. Perhaps Superman was called away to deal with an intergalactic threat. Either Darkseid or Mongul. I'm leaning toward Darkseid though.

Kandor is more than a city in this version. It is a colony, the survivors of a long lost Kryptonian expedition. In reality, they were attacked and enslaved by Darkseid. When they eventually rebel and send out a signal for other Kryptonians to help, Superman gets the signal and leaves for Apokolips.

After helping the lost Kryptonians and helping them settle on a new planet he returns to Earth. Superman was a little deceptive about how he gained his powers. He doesn't want the others to come to Earth or be tempted to. But he does spend some time with them, learning what he can.

He also meets his "cousin", a distant relation Kara Zor-El. Once he is sure the Kryptonians/Kandor can defend itself against Darkseid, Superman returns to Earth. As a gift, the Kryptonians give him Brainiac-well, a part of the AI system that they had used to educate their children before Darkseid. At the time it won't have a name. They were able to recover it when they rebelled and Superman helped them.

Darkseid has corrupted the program though. It is now programmed to study organic life in terms to learn how to defeat and eradicate it. It believes organic life is an impediment. Maybe Darkseid has also programmed it to connect with Kryptonian/Kandor defense, navigation, etc. networks to weaken them or have them turn against the people and help him enslave them again, or get revenge.

Superman takes the AI cube back to Earth and places it in his Fortress of Solitude. It begins to slowly take over the computer systems there, where it learns about the destruction of Krypton, which it blames on the Kryptonians. It also learns about Earth and its pollution, population, and other problems. It begins to slowly spread its tentacles into Earth's other computers. It also contacts Darkseid. He plans for an Apokolips invasion that will be in the third movie.

Second movie...Starts with Superman taking out Titano. Luthor hires and helps build Metallo, with a kryptonite heart-to take out the Man of Steel. Metallo combines cruelty, cunning, and bionic strength to push Superman to his limits. He almost succeeds in defeating him when JaxOr and Mala intervene. They are not as strong as Superman, but the three of them help take him out.

JaxOr, Mala, and several others from Kandor have followed Superman, after becoming curious about where he goes. Only wanted to sate curiosity, help him, etc. Really, JaxOr, etc. are on the run from the Kandor authorities. As their powers increase they realize that Supes has been holding out on them. They also have designs on taking over Earth. So, my Supes Returns 2 would be similar to Superman II, with some STAS thrown in.

Supes Returns 3 would deal with Darkseid and Brainiac teaming up to take out Earth and Supes with an invasion from Apokolips. They are even able to take over Superman's body or mind for a moment. It pits Kara Zor-El against Supes.

Supes Returns 4 would deal with Cadmus. Amanda Waller (Angela Bassett, or CCH Pounder) team up with recently released Luthor to develop contingency plans against the Man of Steel. Chief among them is Doomsday. Luthor betrays Cadmus and awakens, releases the creature early. A great deal of the movie would deal with Supes trying everything to take Doomsday out. Cadmus tries to help and even Luthor realizes what a mistake it was.

[Batman the 6th]

Sounds pretty good, maybe you should make a fan film. It won't be as spectaculiar as other Super hero movies, but it could be cool to see.

[Batman the 6th]

In the 2nd movie, it is revealed that there are many survivors of Krypton, including Zod and Klax-Ur. The two of them are released by Lex Luthor when he releases a missile into space, and it accidentally hits the Phantom Zone. Richard and Jason leave Lois and Metropolis, when he realizes she still has feelings for Clark. Lois is depressed about this, and Clark tries to be the good friend. Lex finds out about the aliens, but this time, he doesn’t want to join with them. He wants to destroy them, so the world will see him as the hero. The kryptonians take Lois to the FOS, along with Lex again. He has a gun with him, with six kryptonite bullets in it. After an array of superpowers, the battle of the three kryptonians has almost come to an end, when Jax-Or throws Clark into the red sun ray chamber. Before the process is done, Lex fires at the 2 baddies, killing them. He also aims for Superman. He is about to shoot him when he realizes something. Lex Luthor saved the world, he saved Superman. He puts the gun down, and tells Superman he is on his side. Superman is hesitant, but believes him a little bit. Superman takes Lex back to Metropolis, and tells him he’s watching him. Back at the FOS, Clark and Lois have a long talk. She wants to be with him, but knows there is a risk. Clark tells her he doesn’t love her, so she will forget about him. The next day, the headline reads:
“Lex Luthor saves the Man of Steel form aliens” “Lex Luthor saves the world” and so on. Clark and Lois are upset by this, and Clark walks over to talk to Lois about it, but she walks away. At the end, Lex is looking at a crystal, and it is speaking to him. “I am Vril Dox, and I need your help” “If I help you, you must help me as well” “Anything”
“I want to be the one who kills Superman, but I want it to look like he is an alien who wants to destroy the world” “Sure thing” Clark is at the FOS, and ponders his life. He has flashbacks of him and Lois at the DP, at the FOS, in her apartment,etc.
He then looks at the chamber. He steps into it, and it closes. Fade out.

[cerealkiller182]

I'd like Brainiac to be like in the cartoon and be a reason for the destruction of Krypton. He'd be going from planet to planet doing a Galactus type thing, like in STAS, and eventually come to Earth, where his crashed ship is intercepted by Lex and he tries using it to his advantage. Brainiac is basically let lose on the city stealing technology to rebuild his ship. Eventually, SUperman would destroy Brainiac, and Brainiac would bond himself with Lex like in JLU. Then the ultimate showdown. Like the final Neo vs. Smith except with a less confusing ending.

[Batman the 6th]

Anyone like my idea?

[Lightning54SC]

batman 6 i love your story it sounds pretty good...

[Batman the 6th]

Seriously, someone should make a fan-film. And not like thatone I saw a few months ago where Batman was fat, and Clark was too bulk. With special effects, we could do pretty good. None of us are millionaires, I don't think, but we should be able to make something cool.

[Lightning54SC]

it can be done... actually there are some kids that made a BB sequal that was not bad.... i give them props

[Super Kal]

i do have my own story, but it's not SR related...

[Lightning54SC]

well kakarot spill your gutz

[Super Kal]

part 1

Well, In my storyline, There are hundreds of universes, and after Superman's earth from the comics exploded from an unknown reason, Superman becomes obligated to find out what caused it to happen. During his search, he finds a small group of Kryptonian scientists who didn't believe in the same issues that rest of Krypton did. As a result, they were banned from Krypton. They found a new planet and created a "new Krypton" so to speak. Kal-el learns from them and also learns about the many universes. At an attempt to find out what destroyed his earth, he travlels from universe to universe to learn what happened. In his travels, he gains knowledge as well as power. By the time he gets to our universe, his quest for knowledge has made him forget about his adopted world's destruction. After seeing so many universes and different Supermen, Kal-El expected good things from our universe. Turns out he was wrong...

In our universe, Krypton did not explode, but survived the green death. In the aftermath, our Krypton became self indulgent, arrogant, and down right snobby of themselves. Kal-El turns his back to this Krypton and makes his way towards our Earth. Picking up radio and television signals on his way towards Earth, Kal-El becomes saddened, and decides to pick someone from our Earth to become Superman.

Eventually, Kal-El finds out that it was the Anti Monitor that destroyed his home, and all the Supermen that he meets travel to our Krypton, which is where he was festering... in the hearts, minds, and planet of Krypton. All the Supermen fight and give their lives, and at the end it's the original Superman, Kal-El, now more powerful than Superman Prime versus the Anti-Monitor, the biggest fight of all the universes. The fight ends with one huge explosive bang with our Krypton finally exploding with another Kal-El being sent to Earth. The universes collide around the pod and a new universe and Earth is born as the last Kal-El heads to our Earth, as the Kal-El from the comics returns to his universe and his reformed earth.

By the way, it was the Anti-Monitor that destroyed his Earth. When the Anti-Monitor was destroyed, Everything restarted, and all the destruction that the Anti-Monitor caused was repaired.

[Batman the 6th]

I'm confused by reading it. It just started over? Was our earth destroyed, because it says it blew up, and then he returns to it. And a second Kal-El comes to Earth, with the current one from our Earth returning as well?

[Super Kal]

in the story, our earth remains and the new born Kal-El is finally launched from Krypton, as history says it should of. The presence of the Anti-Monitror in our time was not only messing with the DC Comic Superman's universe, but ours as well. Since The Anti-Monitor now existed in our universe, our Earth (not really ours, just a universe without a Superman) is more dark, more dangerous, and hope is something not seen much on the Earth. I tried to tie in the phrase "Truth, Justice, and Hope" into my story because IMO it has more meaning and truth than "American Way".

Our Earth still remains, because all of history begins with Earth and ends with it. Superman from the DC universe returns to his Earth because now it has been restored to the way it was before it was destroyed by the Anti-Monitor. During his search for knowledge, he meets a being that had the power to start the universe over again. Superman was able to make a deal with the being because the being saw that Superman's intentions were pure.

[griffolyon12]

My idea would be to have Brainiac and Lex Luthor team up.Brainiac breaks Lex out of jail wishing to use his brain and other assets to help create a computer virus to send the world back into the Dark Ages and then we come to find out Brainiac saved the man who becomes Metallo and made him who he is known to be,a cyborg.Brainiac uses this technology from Metallo to create a huge cyborg army which he will use after the virus is sent out to take over the world.
Lex is all for this plan,but mentions that they must deal with Superman before they could do this.Brainiac listens to this and tries to recreate Kryptonite,but it turns out as Red Kryptonite(in the comics this synthetic stuff takes away his powers).They send out Metallo to draw out Superman,and Superman chase Metallo all over Metropolis as he exploit's Superman's weakness for humans.Eventually they end up on a city street and fight.Metallo pulls ot the Red Kryptonite and punches Superman with it,Superman loses his powers and gets destroyed by Metallo and he disappears presumed dead by Lex and Brainiac .
Now Superman hangs up the cape and attempts to live as a human being.If Lois didn't know Clark's secret in SR she will be told by him in this one and they get engaged setting up their wedding in a later sequel.They take a jet to Smallville to tell his mom the news;while going there Metallo rips apart the jet searching for a top notch computer scientist Brainiac and Lex need to finish the virus.He finds the scientist and leaves letting the jet crash.Clark awakes banged up and finds Lois barely alive.After he is checked out by 911 and Lois is put in intensive care.Clark now notices something when he was the only one on the jet not injured.He learns he has his powers back and that the Red Kryptonite 's effects were only temporary.
The virus is now activated as Superman returns to Metropolis and fights Metallo and Brainiac defeating them,but Lex slips away.I hope you'll liked this.I hope to be a screenwriter and director someday and dream of having my own Superman franchise.If this isn't used in the sequel I'll use it for my dream films(which is what it was made for)if I can ever make it.But please give feedback.

[Hypestyle]

I want more violent fights-- more giant monsters like maybe Metallo has some kind of growth power, or some other giant death-machines.. there should be a lot more things that get blown up, melted, ripped to pieces, etc.

Lex becomes a secondary villain to others like brainiac, Zod, parasite, Darkseid.

[Batman the 6th]

So kakarot069, our universe never had a Superman, until Superman fixed the anti-Monitor, and then our krypton exploded, baby Kal came to earth and so on. So, DC's Earth is not the same as ours? I thought it was.

[Super Kal]

Well, there was a point during Crisis On Infinite Earths where there was an Earth that had no Superman. He only existed in comic books like he does here... I just used that as a foundation and tweaked the story a little. At first, I had no idea what the creature was going to be. For a while, I thought it would be Doomsday, then Imperiex, but then I decided on the Anti-Monitor, because then you'd get to see all the different Supermen in all those different suits (:D) come together and fight as a group

[Batman the 6th]

That would be cool. Are you gonna write it? And create art for the Supermen, and possible other heroes, and other Lois', Jimmy's, Perry's, Chloe maybe? I'd love to see all the suits. My fav, although not Superman's, is Superboy/Kon-El's black T-shirt with the red (\S/).

[Super Kal]

well... I could definitely try, but I'm a horrible drawer. The only thing I'm good for is color and light :(

[Logan Howlett]

I think they need to have Bizzaro in there at some point.

[XCharlieX]

Brainiac would be a good way to introduce superman to the new extra terrestrial dangers imo in a sequel to this film and then...

Basically.. there is the hugest event in superman history that should be done imo: The Death and Return of Superman..which could take 2 or 3 films... thats going out with a bang imo.

[Kane]

I'd prefer it to be like this:


Superman 2: Brainiac formed from the Kryptonian crystal technology in space as the planet as been reformed out there with him at the core. His creation is a result of Lex Luthor's actions in SR and thus it comes to earth to find Lex Luthor and Kal-El.

Superman 3: Lex Luthor's attempts to bring back Brainiac and channel his power and knowledge begin. Darkseid is planning an Apokolypian invasion of Earth but tries to draw Superman to him using the ransom of a 12 year old Kryptonian child survivor he has in his captivity (Kara Zor El). Superman puts it all on the line to find her and save her.

Superman 4: Brainiac is reconstituted as 'Lexiac'. Kryptonian villians emerge from the Phatom Zone with Lexiac on their side for the big epic battle for Kryptonian supremacy on Earth... General Zod appears with his dark master of pure hate and evil...who orhestrated the conflict between Earth and Apokalips in the previous film for his own enjoyment; Dominus. As this Kryptonian battle begins on Earth, Kara (the child from the previous film) whos now 15/16 years old after living with the Kents in Smallville for all these years....steps up to assist Superman as Supergirl.

World's Finest (with Bale): Joker and Lex, with the muscle of the dark shadows of the world finest duo: Man-Bat and Bizzaro.


That covers all the bases. Again, not using Metallo for him being a typical thug whos a Kryptonite freak (Smallvilles overplayed that).

Not using Doomsday since he was regarded as simply a plot device to kill Supes and thats really all he is famous for (and Superman already dies in Returns at Lex's hands) no need to do it again.

[XCharlieX]

Not using Doomsday since he was regarded as simply a plot device to kill Supes and thats really all he is famous for (and Superman already dies in Returns at Lex's hands) no need to do it again.

Ur kidding me... :eek: Id think something with more notorious reputation for that saga as opposed to a guy in a suit wouldve been more fitting. This time around would be more likely for Superman to snap him like a pencil imo. Oh well.

And Chris bales Batman doesnt belong in a superman world imo... so different. I think I was one of the guys who thought that was a horrible horrible idea lol

[Excel]

It's called

SUPERMAN FOREVER

I'll be elaborating more and more as I have time, but basically this is it:

Opening scene features Superman saving the day by stoping a huge kidnapping. The mayor is kidnapped, and taken away via helictoper, and superman saves her in a midair rescue. back to seen, lois an jimmy are all over it(clarks a bit late).
they get back to the planet, where we see clark. later that night, superman pays Lois a visit. they have a secret relationship, its obvious they are still in love. superman flys off, and lois leaves.
meanwhile, across the world at night in arizona,m a space laboratorysees this massive objext hurtling towards earth-they think its a asteroid! alerts are sent out, clark finds out at the planet, and quickly flys up to see whats up, only to find it has "vanished". its also dissapeared from all radar.
meanwhile, pan over the sahara desert to find lex, kitty, and company on camels en route to cairo. they were saved by a chinese fishing boat and now lex is trying to come in contact with his ex partner. hes been plotting revenge on the man of steel for a while now.
meanwhile, clark and Lois are sent out to cover Richards innauguration as an air force commander thingie. his brave acts in superman returns have garnered much respect. its in new york. clark and lois go on a sight seeing trip, clark flirting hard, lois semi taking the bait. clark really wants to tell her who he is.their in new york taxi when a stragegically planed bank robbery happens. 2 huge 18 wheels block off part of a street, and the first floors on both side building explode. out of the 18 wheelers, thugs jump out-turns out on side is jewelry shop, on the other side a bank. lois screams, and looks over-clarks gone. she fraks-cut to an alley-clark becomes superman. he flys down, and blows out the fires, while the hugs load loot into the trucks. one takes off. it cuts down the street, smashing int ocars. lois is trapped-doors pinned shut. superman quickly swoops down and rips open the roof and grabs her out before she can get hit. he drops up on a roodtop, and she ushers thanks as he dives down back to the scene. he quickly freezes the frozen truck in place, and then knocks a billboard to keep from getting anywhere. meanwhile the last truck enters the freeway-superman follows. he cant juststop it here, itl l cause a huge accident. he tells the driver to pull over, but he wont. supes flys around back, and tries to grab it from behind, but a man opens the door and throws a grenade. superman falls back is lown back into a car by the explosion. he swoops in again, this time for the front. the driver swurves, and knocks superman in midair(causing a huge gash to the truck), and the truck turns and crahses through a wall, and slams down 15 feet onto a bridge-now superman flies in for the last time, having had enough. he grabs the front of the 18 wheels, and picks it up, and quickly sets it down UPSIDE DOWN infront of the cop station.

he quickly flies back to lois, who is now freaked out by clarks absense, telling superman they have to find him! he grabs her. he reaches into his pocket and takes out his glasses. lois GASPS-she doesnt know why, but knowing clark and superman are the same person...is just better.she likes supes a lot, and likes clark a little, and combined, that forces her to ... fall back in love. at the inuaguration ceromony, richard looks over to his wife, to see her just staring at clark, whose staring back. hes a good guy, but he isnt stupid.
meanwhile, BRAINIAC comes to Earth in his skull ship searching for superman, and crashs into the sahara as its the emptiest place on earth. he has found new krypton in space and wants the rest of supermans technology to make his own planet which hed rule. he's got no idea what to do, so n his human look, he goes to cairo. we meet luthor in a bar, reasing a paper about the "6/30 hero getting recognized" -richard being innuagurated, with lois next to him, then a pic of superman above. lex instantly notices something is wrong with brainiac, who askes to see the paper. he asks about superman, who lex says he hates, ect. lex figures out who is(he saw the ship crash) anbd says he wants superman dead, and brainiac wants his tech. if superman dies, theyll be able to get the tech. brainiac agrees to help kill superman if luthor helps him get the technology as lex knows where the fortress is. brainiac says they need to find a person who already dislikes superman, and hell make him" a match". lex looks down, and sees richard, and it hits him.
meanwhile, in upstate new york compound, richards alone, in a lab. explosion abound, the troops to fight off brainiac who quickly wipes them out. he finds richard, who now dislikes superman, and tell him their tryign to pass a law to make superman illegal. he agrees to help them, when they kidnap him. holding themselves up in an abandoned warehouse in washington.

ill finish the update later.


. hes unwittingly kidnapped and turned into Metallo-he puts 2 redkryptonion crystals into his mechanic upperbody. he wears a sleek black costume.
-clark n lois return back. they spend the night on the eifil tower, where superman tells lois he wants to quit being superman and be with her. lois objects.the next day richard doesnt land at metropolis airport. superman fights metallo in a small battle in metropolis, before supeman throws him itno the middle of the pacific.
mad at the failure, lex sends metallo to break into the national archives and get kryptonite. meanwhile,superman and lois dine in the fortress ala superman 2. jasons at his grandmas. superman shows her around the fortress. they hook up. richard is seemingly out of her mind.
the next day, clark and lois both kind of float around. suddenly a mega boom-metallo has crash landed in a brainiac mades pace pod in the middle of metropolis. a worldwide super ifght continues, with superman and him ending up in metropolis again,lois feet away-superman is dying from thekryptonite now inbeded in metellos fist.they kill eachother as superman rips out metallo life crystal-and they both fall 100 stories down to the street and crash hard.lois rushs over to a dying superman, when metallo pulls off his mask.

its richard. she cant believe it. he tells luthor brain washed him, and that he needs help. lois feels aweful, and has no idea what to do. she has to either save SUPERMAN or save richard.
meanwhile, brainiacs warship crash lands in d.c.-its about noon time. they take over the white house and seemingly the worldin a matter of minute via intimidation by using footage of a dead superman. the world gets pissed.

manwhile, lois has decided to take richard(he can actually be saved meanwhile they can do nothing for superman). the bridge their on is collapsing(suspension bridge) and they rishoff the bridge. the bridge breaks and superman collapses into the ocean. when he sees the ice crystalfrom metallo-he grabs it-its ENERGZING-He holds onto it, and bullets from the bottom of the ocean, tearing towards the sun for energy. meanwhile, lois is overtaken my metallo, whose still enraged that she left him for lois. in her car, metallo takes it and throws it as far as he can-only to be caught by superman, who sets it down on a rooftop. they tlak breifly,exchange i love yous, and she tells him brainiacs got d.c. and that he could die, that he and metallo hae kryptonite. superman flies off the screen-hes got life saving crystal and a plan. he draws metallo to the artic, a place superman knows,theres a spectacular ice fight until superman melts a lake and throws metallo into it, and refreezes it all up-hes trapped.

superman then converges on d.c. where thousands of troops are. superman crashes the white house, and afraid of his new power, brainiac leaves and lex and retreates to his skull ship. superman and he have a fight on board the crashing ship and superman wins. Thematically, superman is having loads of doubt over his Lois situation. no moping, this is private stuff. he contemplates a perminant leave AGAIN to smallville. but in the end he realizes its his destiny to be hear, that he will be superman FOREVER. Him and lois get together at the end.

it would be very light and action packed movie

[Kane]

And Chris bales Batman doesnt belong in a superman world imo... so different. I think I was one of the guys who thought that was a horrible horrible idea lol

I dont think its too different, both films are handled in a way to try and be as 'real' as possible with unrealistic characters.....and are character driven. Gotham's ghetto look reflects their economic problems while Metropolis' classic, regal look reflects the elegance and affluence of the city. In begins, Bruce's parents in the flashbacks...and at Bruce's parties...the affluent crowd dressed similarly in style to the people of Metropolis.

Theres potential.

[XCharlieX]

If you say so ;)

[Kane]

Well all Im saying is, they 'could' match if it was necessary.

The project just needs a good director (not Ratner) to kick it off.

Theres also the fact that Batman made his first appearance several years after Superman disappeared from Earth....hope was lost...a world in darkness, it would have been the perfect time for Batman to Begin.

[Rynan]

Well all Im saying is, they 'could' match if it was necessary.

The project just needs a good director (not Ratner) to kick it off.

Theres also the fact that Batman made his first appearance several years after Superman disappeared from Earth....hope was lost...a world in darkness, it would have been the perfect time for Batman to Begin.

Sorry, but no. I don't think it's going to happen. I like Batman where he is and I like Superman where he is. I don't see the need to band them together.

"No team-ups" is my motto for now.

[Kane]

Sorry, but no. I don't think it's going to happen.

Dude, SR isnt even out yet and already Singer and Routh are being fielded with questions about a possible Supes/Bat teamup by interviewers.

Routh said he'd be for it as long as it isnt the 'Batman VS Superman' script because he doesnt think Bats and Supes should be fighting with each other....but teaming up (World Finest style).

[gdw]

I was just watching Firewall, which I rather enjoyed, and I do not know why it did not do better, and I realised that if there was a DKR movie done around now, Ford is probably the only guy who could do it.

And Bettney kicks ass as usual.

Any who, the point is, it got me thinking, IF they ever did a B&S film (hehe just noticed that, BS) I think it should be something like DKR mixed with the script that was done for Peterson's film.

Basically taking the two and merging them so that the peterson script elements that were NOt like the books are removed, and there could be ore focus on BOTH characters then there is in DKR (not that DKR should be any different as it is a bat's story, but for a BvsS film, wellm you know.

I think that this is one of the best ways for it to play out.

It would like DKR in how Begins had a lot of Year One in it. But I like how both of those works managed to pit Bats and Supes against eachother. Neither was so much the bad guy as it was their differences and the extenuating circumstances.

[Logan Howlett]

They need to have Lobo in the sequel, that would own!

[CoreyIAN]

livewire,please.

i love livewire and her eletricity powers.

leslie willis will be so cool and one of the best villian .

[Super Kal]

i bet you liked Superman Blue and his electrical and magnetic based powers then...

[batman44]

For my sequel I would have Lex becoming more of the buisness guy from the comics and cartoon. After failing to kill Supes in Returns Lex is getting very frustrated. So Lex tries to think of way to get a Supes; Lex figures that he should become a public person and it would frustrate Supes to know end.

Lex starts giving charity and all sorts of functions, apologizes and slowy gains public trust/ support. He makes many deals with all sorts buisnesses and steals alot of money so he can start up his Lex Corp empire. Lex puts together a team of bad guys called Intergang to alot of his dirty work.

On one of Intergang missions, Superman intervens to put a stop to them. IG was looking forward to Superman intervention so they could try out the new weapons and try to get some of Superman DNA for Lex. IG completes there mission in getting Supes DNA but not without one getting hurt and put in prison; his name is John Corben.

Lex tells Corben he could get him out prison if and only if Corben goes through with some kind mechanical enhancment procedure. Besides wanting to get out of prison, Corben wants revenge on Superman, so he accepts. Naturally this is the becoming of Metallo

Menwhile Lex and his scientist are playing with Superman's dna trying to make there own Superman. Obviously they end up making Bizarro and from there I havn't really thought about it.

Please forgive my bad writing skills.

[Batman the 6th]

What if they make 2 clones, one Bizarro and the other what seems to be a normal human. Lex adds his own DNA, and so the Boy of Steel is created.

[batman44]

What if they make 2 clones, one Bizarro and the other what seems to be a normal human. Lex adds his own DNA, and so the Boy of Steel is created.

That would be interesting, though I'm not sure if I'd want Superboy in the next sequel. But again a very interesting thought.

['N']

once sr comes out im planning on writting a follow up involving Bizaro as the "villian", then the sequel, introducing doomsday and brainiac partnership, ive already outlined the basic plot and story, i just need to see what is in sr so i can make it all connect, just like i did for my x4,x5,x6 follow-up

[Batman the 6th]

It won't be Superboy necessarily, just a younger version of Routh doing Lex's bad deeds. Then, the clone helps Supes out, and dies while doing so. Kind of like in L*C, but the clone is more evil at first.

[batman44]

^Oh, I see

[Lobo]

Based on what I know SR my sequel would go something like this

An ancient villain from the Planet Colu named Vril Dox visited Krypton long ago and tried to destroy it, he was defeated by Kryptons Science Council (this would be long before Jor-El was even born) and the essence of his mind was trapped with in the crystals of Krypton. When Luthor created New Krypton he tainted the pure crystals with Kryptonite which cuased Vril Dox consciousness to re-awaken, and thats why it continues to grow, I'd have a space shuttle piloted by Hank Henshaw crash onto the NK planetoid (it would crash because Brainiacs control of Machinery) He'd use the wrecked ship to create a body for himself thought not the one were used to just yet, Once he had a body he'd use his powers to start collecting debris of all sorts of alien metals floating around space and eventually take the form he had in TAS which is my favorite Brainiac design. Superman would go investigate the Space Shuttle crash, and find the crew dead, while on NK Brainiac would instantly recognize Superman as Kryptonian due to the symbol on his chest, he is able to hide himself from Kal-El for the time being. Superman brings the shuttle back to Earth so that it's passengers can get the burial they deserve. As Superman flies back to Earth with the doomed shuttle Brainiac realizes that under a yellow sun the kryptonians powers are great, with Superman now back on Earth, Brainiac with his powers and technological know how begins to transform New krypton into his Skull Ship

Back on Earth Richard and Lois are no longer engaged, Richard having called off the engagement knowing that Lois is still in love with Superman. He leaves The Daily Planet to wrok for Newstime magazine. Lois and Richard stay friends for Jason's sake. Jason will be at school for most of the film, but they will talk about how he's becoming a star athlete especially in track. Might cut to a shot of him winning a race by a good but not unbeleivable distance

Lex Luthor who now has BILLIONS will have started LexCorp, and it will be rivaling Wayne Industries for providng the most advanced tech possible, thanks in large part to lex's top scientist Prof Emil Hamilton

Brainiac now has his ship ready and heads towards Earth ready to destroy it. Hamilton is the first to discover that NK is shifting course and now headed straight for Earth. As this haaapens their are reports from all over Star labs, Wayne Industries, Kord Tech etc

Brainiac gets to Earth, a massive smackdown between him and Supes occurs with Superman only beating Brainiac thanks to some help from Luthor.

Also throughout all this I'll have a good dose of Perry Jimmy and Lois

there's more detail but I dont think I can fit anymore in one post :O

[Batman the 6th]

Sounds good.

[Lobo]

Thank You :O

[batman44]

I like it Lobo.

[Lobo]

Thanks :)

[dpm07]

Wow, Lobo! That's pretty impressive. It really fits in well with a sequel based loosely on the approach Singer is going with the current SR film.

I'll be honest. I've made it no secret that I am not overly impressed with Singer's approach or design, but I am impressed with your approach and design to a Superman sequel. :up:

I had an idea for a trilogy, but it's not with the approach or style in the same vein as Singer's doing, so it's pretty null and void now. However, you really flipped things around, and make the idea for a sequel well presented.

[Lobo]

Thank you for the feedback :) and I'm glad people seem to like it. I'm trying to figure out how to complete the trilogy now. Where do I go after Brainiac? I love Darkseid Brainiac and Mongul and all in the comics work but on film they all come off the same i.e. a superpowered alien who wants to destroy/invade the Earth, and only Superman stands in there way. I want to use villains that dont need kryptonite to battle Superman, and I dont want the same archtype 2 movies in a row the evil super powered alien as I mentioned above. So right now I'm thinking who I should use to end the trilogy?

[Batman the 6th]

What about Zod and co?

[KalMart]

Aside from Supes/Lois's kid being retarded and aging rapidly into Bizarro, like I proposed in another thread....I'd like to see a straight character piece. One that entails a growing religious sect that believes that Superman IS the returned Messiah. This eventually becomes a nationwide obsession amongst the predominantly Christian US population. Not only does Supes have to deal with millions of obsessive believers, but enraged nations of different faiths, who ultimately cast Supes as the Devil (or their version of it) and declare a holy world war on Superman and the US. Should he fight on the side of the US, henceforth proving his blasphemous allegiance in the eyes of other nations, or does he denounce all deism, alienating an entire culture that he has sworn to defend?

The film would start with a seemingly placid interview of Superman in front of an international panel. He is asked if he believes in God....and off we go. Could be quite reflective of today's state of worldly affairs.

[Batman the 6th]

That would be a very controvercial fan fic, just like DaVinci Code. So, go for it!! I loved the DaVinci Code, well, the book was better in detailing, but yeah. Of course most of my family is Catholic, and they don't agree with it. That's why when I choose my own religion, I'll probably choose being Protestant.

[Logan Howlett]

I WANA SEE THE MAIN MAN! Lobo neeeeeeeeeeds to be in the next film, OH YA!

[The Batman]

Brainiac should defeintely be the villain

I'd introduce Lana Lang as Clark's new love interest.

I'd bring in Characters like Cat Grant and Steve Lombard, and maybe Jack Ryder. The Daily planet cast needs to be beefed up

Lex would have some role in the movie.

[HUMAN]

In the aftermath of trajedy in Smallville, Martha Kent finally gives up on the farm. But as hope seems to fade, Clark rekindles an old flame from the past in the form of Lana Lang. Back in Metropolis, Lex has made it back to civilization and is plotting on ruining Superman and the populace at large. Through corporate buyouts, Lex uses his Vanderworth fortune to obtain Cadmus Labs. Luthor decides that the best way to defeat his enemy is to get his enemy on his side. Through emotional hardships and the threat of a new Superman, Clark must juggle love and defeat in his new journey.

[Jochimus]

My idea is heavy on action, and is basically a combination of the S:TAS episodes "Prototype" and "Heavy Metal", with a dash of Byrne's run thrown in, and deals with what would happen if Superman wanted to save the people he loves but couldn't.

Basically, Superman trashes some Intergang agents hired by Luthor, and one of them - John Corben - is gravely injured, enabling Lex to transplant Corben's neural engrams into his new 'advanced defense prototype' robot which is really a new toy with which Lex can destroy Superman. The robot "malfunctions" and bashes Superman into a bloody pulp which Corben promptly tosses into Hobs Bay, but Project Metallo's chief engineer, John Henry Irons, is enraged by Lex's misappropriation of the prototype and leaves Lexcorp, faking his own death to protect himself and his family from a possible hit. The 'accident' draws EMTs away on a goose chase from the hospital where Corben's comatose body is being kept alive to be worked on till it's safe for his mind can be transferred back into it, and Corben's body dies, driving him mad and sending him on a berserker rage in which he bombards the city - and especially the Daily Planet, since there's so keen on Superman and he's kind of responsible for this whole mess - with Kryptonite blasts. The lingering buildup of Kryptonite radiation poisons a fourth of the city, including half the Daily Planet staff and Lois, rendering them all deathly ill. There's meant to be some emotional resonance here in that Superman couldn't save Lois this time even if he had powers, but motivated nonetheless and despite the brutal licking he took in the first round, as Clark Kent he tries to track down Metallo's creators and comes in contact with Irons, who's looking to blow the whistle on Lexcorp to a media outlet that Luthor hasn't bought and paid for. Superman then collaborates with Irons to quickly fabricate some light armor (resembling the red-and-blue exosuit from Byrne's run) that can mimic Superman's powers just well enough to give Big Blue a chance in the final showdown against Corben whilst Irons - now targeted by Metallo after Luthor realizes that only someone of Irons' genius could build such armor for Superman - combines his engineering skills with Kryptonian science to create a means of mass-producing a cure for the Kryptonite poisoning.

Basically this premise is supposed to go back to the concept of Superman as an inspiration, rather than as a direct solution to a life-threatening crisis. It's also meant to accommodate WB's penchant for merchandising their superhero properties into oblivion without totally ignoring Superman lore.

[BobJM]

Superman: Man of Steel

Synopsis:

In the aftermath of the events of SR, Metropolis is still undergoing construction. As the world slowly begin to accept Superman's sudden return, a new villain emerges with ties to Kal-El's past.

Brainiac, once Krypton's information computer database, arrives on Earth via meteorite. When Lex sends a team of scientists to retrieve and study the rock, they discover that there are evident properties from Krypton. While being studied in LexCorp's subbasement, the meteor mysteriously comes to life and murders the scientists with tentacles that emerged from it. As Lex comes down to check on the status of the study, he is locked in. Brainiac begins to speak to him, forcing him to build Brainiac a vessel or shell to live in due to Luthor's knowledge of Kryptonian techonology.

Lois and Richard's relationship has hit tough times as her apparent feelings for Superman become more and more evident. Jason, older now, is becoming more active in sports and athletic programs at his school. Richard suggests that he and Lois call off the engagement so that they can rethink their feelings for each other.

After the body for Brainiac is built, he attacks a bridge, nearly killing Lois. Superman arrives and fights him, wondering who it is and what exactly are its ties to Krypton. Brainiac defeats the man of steel, but must leave to repair damages.

Superman reluctantly accepts an unusual alliance with Luthor to defeat a common enemy. Lois is kidnapped, used as bait by Brainiac to lure in the last son of Krypton. Superman and Lex track Brainiac to one of LexCorp's missile silos, where Brainiac plans to launch an attack on Earth, ultimately wishing to destroy it so that all of its information (now downloaded into his system) becomes much more valuable and that he be the only being with access to it.

In the end, Superman manages to defeat Brainiac and save Lois. Luthor, however, attacks Superman with Kryptonite, wishing to defeat him as well. Superman manages to overcome Luthor's betrayal and stop him once and for all. Luthor is put in jail.

Lois and Superman share a kiss before he pulls away. He loves her, but he knows that now they can never be together. He's Superman and he'll always have enemies and that she has a family that she needs to be with.

[GL1]

Based on what I know SR my sequel would go something like this

An ancient villain from the Planet Colu named Vril Dox visited Krypton long ago and tried to destroy it, he was defeated by Kryptons Science Council (this would be long before Jor-El was even born) and the essence of his mind was trapped with in the crystals of Krypton. When Luthor created New Krypton he tainted the pure crystals with Kryptonite which cuased Vril Dox consciousness to re-awaken, and thats why it continues to grow, I'd have a space shuttle piloted by Hank Henshaw crash onto the NK planetoid (it would crash because Brainiacs control of Machinery) He'd use the wrecked ship to create a body for himself thought not the one were used to just yet, Once he had a body he'd use his powers to start collecting debris of all sorts of alien metals floating around space and eventually take the form he had in TAS which is my favorite Brainiac design. Superman would go investigate the Space Shuttle crash, and find the crew dead, while on NK Brainiac would instantly recognize Superman as Kryptonian due to the symbol on his chest, he is able to hide himself from Kal-El for the time being. Superman brings the shuttle back to Earth so that it's passengers can get the burial they deserve. As Superman flies back to Earth with the doomed shuttle Brainiac realizes that under a yellow sun the kryptonians powers are great, with Superman now back on Earth, Brainiac with his powers and technological know how begins to transform New krypton into his Skull Ship...

...Brainiac now has his ship ready and heads towards Earth ready to destroy it. Hamilton is the first to discover that NK is shifting course and now headed straight for Earth. As this haaapens their are reports from all over Star labs, Wayne Industries, Kord Tech etc

Brainiac gets to Earth, a massive smackdown between him and Supes occurs with Superman only beating Brainiac thanks to some help from Luthor...

This is an AWESOME movie origin for Brainiac, coupled with Brainiac controlling all Earths' technology for his own sinister purposes, could add some very interesting challenges for Superman... perhaps even a 12-trials like scene as Brainiac guages his abilities.

I can't subscribe to the happy shuffling away of the Richard White and Jason characters... they need to be present and notable, in my humble opinion. I'd rather have Brainiac outright kill them, at least they'd provide emotional fodder rather than just sinking into the night. Jason presents a great problem for the Superman mythos and I'd rather he stick around to be a thorn in the side of our comfortable and played out Clark-Lois-Superman love triangle... though, the idea of Richard sacrificing himself to weaken Brainiac so that Superman will have a shot does sound pretty cool.

I'd much rather persue a return of Lana Lang until the Lois situation can work itself out in a more natural, narrative way, say by the end of the third movie... after all, Clark will likely have to rely on his stored Kryptonian ship, the only thing that won't be affected (maybe) by Brainiac's stranglehold on technology.

Also, while Lex should start building his powerbase a bit more conventionally, I think he deserves a scene or two to explain why he's not in jail for his thwarted plan in SR and why he's suddenly decided to bide his time. And help Superman, which is, by the way, a very cool idea, and would make a GREAT scene. I don't think they should develop him into an evil business man... I want an opportunistic Lex that will take the first opportunity to rule the world, and would succeed but for Superman's ability to consistently surpass his own limits...

As for action sequences, there's the initial space investigation where Clark is hurled to earth, there's Brainiac's 12 trials for Superman all around the world, stopping a runaway train, Lana falling and the like, and then the carnage that results as Brainiac's skull ship hits earth. You could almost tie in Darkseid as a crystal construct and Metallo as earth tech corrupted if you wanted to...

[Hypestyle]

Post some ideas for how you would handle a sequel to SR:

My ideal sequel would feature Brainiac and Darkseid. (see JL episode "Twillight")

Its likely Brainiac will be hinted towards the end of SR like Joker was in Begins. He could be a supercomputer that landed on Earth in 78 from Vril Dox (around the same time as Clark). He merged with Milton Fine and over the past decades has been amassing knowledge....he can corrupt and assimilate technological and biological systems.

I want the movie to center around Superman's quest to rescue another Kryptonian when he realizes there may have been one more survived, frozen in stasis for 30 years. Darkseid has possession of this person on the wartorn Apokalips and as Superman plans to do whatever it takes to save his person, Darksied is planning a fullscale invasion of Apokolips' neighboring planet, New Genesis.

Brainiac takes over control of all of Lexcorp's weapons and arsenal; missles, mecha, assult tech etc and theres a war for the domination of Earth. Richard White (now Lois' husband) is killed when the Lexcorp building explodes, reminiscent of the WTC. Superman was in space piloting his ship in search of the other kryptonian (STAS style), tracing her signal and coming very close to locating her, during the attack and arrived too late. He learns a tragic lesson that as much as he wants to be there to save everyone, he cant...he has limitations.

Superman wants to be there for Lois and her son in this dark time and this may be the only chance for him to repair his relationship with her, but he knows he cant...the world needs him. Hes forced to face the reality that if he leaves her again, especially now, he'll never get another chance to be with her again.

In addition to trying to avert a massive war for domination of the human race (Brainiac), Superman must travel far into deep space to save this other survivor of Krypton from Darkseid's evil grasp. He must save the last daughter of Krypton, a young child (about 12) named Kara Zor-El, his biological cousin. She obviously doesnt become Supergirl in this movie (not for some years) but shes the element that Superman puts everything on the line to save, including his relationship with Lois and with humanity, .....and he doesnt even know if this Kryptonian girl really exists or a deception by Darkseid to lure him away from Earth..

But she exists....and is in great peril.

With the planet New Genesis (full of innocent lives) also on the verge of destruction at the hands of Darkseid's Apokolips....Superman must save 2 worlds; New Genesis (A utopia that reminds him of what Krypton would have been like) and Earth. Can he? Or will he have to make the ultimate decision between them of which to save at the expense of billions of innocent lives being lost. Will the outcome of this final act mirror the tragedy earlier in the movie where Superman couldnt save Richard and the people in the Lexcorp tower?

Is this mysterious Kryptonian child that Superman seeks the key to saving both worlds and unlocking the Kryptonian secrets to Superman's Birthright?

This idea humanizes Superman again, forcing him to make important choices (Singer style) and then adds an outworldy element that takes Superman out of the confines of Earth and into the endless reaches of deep space (my own vision). The story of the New Gods (Apokalips/New Genesis wars) could be told through a origins flashback introducing the backstory (similar to STAS who were succesfully able to deal with the New God story and Darkseid in a 2 part episode). This movie will feature Brainiac's first appearance, but not his last.......After Fine's body is destroyed, the Brainiac computer will leave a trace of itself in Lex (who will be unaware of it). This element of Brainiac will re-awaken in the next film. It may subtly control some of Lex's actions; driving him to attempt to attain a position of power over the humans (US presidency) where Brainiac could get access to all US military, tech and defense knowledge.

I'd cast Hugo Weaving (V for Vendetta) as Milton Fine and Micheal Clarke Duncan (The Green Mile) as Darkseid (he has the voice).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Brainiac(STAS).jpg

neat--- MCD as Darkseid-- perfect casting.. i definitely want to see more villains in the next film, more fight scenes..

[ISHMAEL]

This is Darkseid's movie though. Brainiac is just a side villian (like Scarecrow in Begins) but he doesnt end in this movie. He returns in the next, in a new form....thats why it isnt necessary to give him complete and total focus here. He may not even be revealed as Brainiac yet, its more of a setup. The power goes out, Lexcorps weapon systems out of control, armegeddon and an unknown mysterious cause at the root of it all.

Id prefer him returning in a new form in the following movie and growing as a greater threat over time, thats his nature.

And Darkseid was introduced as a regular Superman villian in 'Apokalips Now' so we know its still interesting if he goes head to head with the Man of Steel. It doesnt need to be a JLA movie to use him, I doubt we'll ever even seen one at the rate were going.

Despite that Superman (Brandon Routh) needs to interact with the following pivitol comic book characters before the franchaise is dead;

- Luthor (done)

- Brainiac

- Batman (WF movie someday hopefully)

- Darkseid

Theyre all the most intergrated superheros/villians to the Superman.



:up: :up: :up: :up:

[The Eradicator]

For the sequels, Singer better not use Zod or a group of new Kryptonian villians that don't even exist in the comics. That would just be totally stupid.

One possibility for the second film is that he uses Brainiac and the Eradicator. However, I think the Eradicator should be a device that helps Superman defeat Brainiac. They could go the route of TAS and make Brainiac of Kryptonian origin, while Singer can include the Eradicator as a force of good that acts as a parellel to Brainiac. The second film should end with Darkseid looking over the earth and planning its invasion, while the Eradicator warns Kal-El that the "butcher of Krypton" is heading towards Earth.

I think it would be cool if they somehow tie Darkseid to Krypton in the third film. Maybe an interplanetary war took place between Krypton and Apokolips years before Kal-El was born and Jor-El was somehow involved. The cataclysmic effects of this war led to the instability in Krypton's core and its shifting closer to the red sun. Using information and new crystal modules provided by the Eradicator in the second film, Superman could find out about Darkseid's involvement in Krypton's past. With CG, they could recreate Brando's oral movements to match entirely new dialogue where he reveals information about Darkseid. This third film should be absolutely epic, as Superman faces off against an Apokoliptian invasion on his adopted planet. Singer could also include flashbacks that shows a young Jor-El fighting in the Apokolips/Krypton war (it would follow the route of Godfather II in a way). The film would take place both on Earth and Apokolips.

The whole Krypton/Apokolips war could be an allegory for a war between Heaven and Hell. On the STM DVD, Tom Mankiwiecz talks about how Krypton was sort of designed with the concept of Heaven in mind, and I think Apokolips should be the total opposite of what Krypton is.

Another possibility for a trilogy is that they bring in Metallo for the second film, and then Brainiac for the third, but I like my first idea better.

[thorstone]

They should do something truly different. How about a Superman who is 80 years old, has lost everyone he ever loved, his Metropolis has grown to something totally different, and he is in his last days.

http://static.parisbouge.com/img/albums/b/e/beeboon_1126788159.jpg

^Giger Metropolis

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/nemo_83/newsuperman.jpg
^Newman; simple costume, no S on the belt, no belt. Darker Roman tones and shoulder/cape silhouette.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/nemo_83/doomsday.jpg
^Doomsday

My story would get going quickly with Superman confronting Darkseid who in the last quarter of the movie unleashes Doomsday upon Metropolis.

[Batman the 6th]

Except Supes wouldn't be getting weaker as he gets older, the exact opposite. Like in one million.

[Xybalba69]

i really liked the idea of Jason getting killed and Richard sacrificing himself in order to help Superman defeat the villain...

[The Eradicator]

It would be cool if Darkseid and his parademons showed up via boomtube in Metropolis at the end of the second film, and Darkseid ends up killing Richard, similar to how he killed Dan Turpin in TAS. It would be a dark, ESB-type ending, leading into the third film.

And if they ever bring in the Eradicator or a Kryptonian Brainiac, I would love to see how they would react to Jason, a half human/half Kryptonian hybrid that threatens Kryptonian "purity".

[thorstone]

I've thought about it some more and the aging of Superman is something that will make him more human than all major comic characters. Everyone else is still in their prime in comics (except maybe Judge Dred but he isn't exactly the same level of importance in pop culture). Yes he will age slower, thus the story is in the future, but it also means he will go through a life like no other; he will have to watch everyone he loves die, he may be the man of steel but he can't stop people from dying. We get to see Superman, not in the prime of his life, but aged, bitter, hurt, and lonely.

My idea for the plot would be that Darkseid is an imperfect clone of Zod (who is trapped, of course, in the Phantom Zone, setup for a trilogy). The cloning process resulted in the clone being composed of inorganic materials. The same for the insane Doomsday whom Zod (in the movie story) created from Superman's father (CGI Brando!) many years ago. Doomsday would be controlled by Darkseid using an indestructable silken material called Gleipnir; the more he struggles against his bindings the tighter they will become. When the stone body of the Doomsday character is damaged diamond will grow in its place. I would imagine horns like the following for the character design:

http://www.wga.hu/art/s/sluter/moses/w_moses5.jpg

The movie would end with Superman's death. Doomsday is put away again, and Superman's body is taken. In the sequel a metal clone of Superman returns causing chaos on Earth. Think the Xmen character :marv:

Meanwhile Darkseid bandies Superman's body about like Mussolini. Ultimately the body is sent hurling into the gravity field of a dense blue dwarf where he is expected to be consumed rather quickly. However, the unthinkable happens, Superman returns from the dead (and becomes young again); he is supercharged by the power of the blue star and returns to Earth stronger than ever. There he kills the imposter Man of Steel and afterwards beats Doomsday until his entire body is made of diamond, breaks free of the Gleipnir, and flies away (to die in the third).

Part three would revolve around the release of Zod from the Phantom Zone; Superman would still be charged from the blue dwarf. The final battle would involve Doomsday, Darkseid, Superman, and Zod.

I would throw in lots of guest appearances in the films including Swamp Thing, a middle aged Batman wearing a material suit (like Superman and Spiderman) rather than armor, and Martian Man Hunter (that's a character like Mystique in Xmen that has some room for an overhaul).

[The Batman]

Darkseid being a clone of Zod?

No....just....no...

[Up Up & Oy Vey!]

Crystals form Brainiac, who forms a home on NK.
Brainiac, in his early stage, only has a few vague memories of Superman. As a preserver of Kryptonian heritage, like Eradicator, he tries to create a clone of superman, making Bizarro. Bizarro kidnaps Lois (or as he calls her, Lo-Iz) and Supes stops him. Richard is injured and taken to Dr. Vale, who makes him into a Metallo. His Kryptonite heart poisons him, giving him delusions of Superman stealing Lois. After a huge fight, Jason ends it, revealing his new powers. Brainiac, now with more memory, comes to Earth searching for one last crystal of info. He comes to Lex and Kitty on the island. There is a crystal hidden in the copter that Lex missed. As Brainiac inserts it into himself, Lex stabs him with Kryptonite, making Brainiac an evil monster, bent on destroying the Kryptonian heritage. After a fight with supes, Brainiac is obliterated, but not before he buds off a metalic egg, which becomes Doomsday. This is the cliff hanger.
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Comments?:supes:

[thedarks0ldier]

Luthor, having access to Kryptonian, Contacts Braniac and becomes obsessed with Braniac. Braniac should help Lex clone Superman and Bizarro (Pre-Deformation) should make it seem as though Superman and Lex are friends, Making Lexcorp's (Luthor's new arms manufacturer) sore. Luthor, having access to Kryptonian technology, and having his own Superman, Luthor seems, feels, invincible. Superman II deforms into bizarro.

Richard White should die in a plane crash or something that Bizarro caused. Superman has this huge epic battle with Bizarro in the middle of the movie and then finds out about braniac. He asks his father about Braniac and then Braniac tries to destroy the earth. Superman Stops him, and in the end, we find out Luthor has Richard's body, and now we get Metallo and Darkseid for the Sequal. Or Metallo and Doomsday.

[thorstone]

Darkseid being a clone of Zod?

No....just....no...

I have seen an issue depicting Zod's imperfect clones, the one in the foreground looks just like Darkseid. Wikipedia says the following on Zod:

"he attempted to take over Krypton. He created an army of robotic duplicates of himself, all bearing a resemblance to Bizarro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro). He was sentenced to the Phantom Zone for his crimes."

My story ties everything together with the inorganic/imperfect clones.

[thorstone]

more Giger paintings:

http://www.therionweb.de/giger/newyork/hr_giger_newyorkcity_XXV.jpg

http://www.therionweb.de/giger/newyork/hr_giger_newyorkcity_XXVII.jpg

http://www.therionweb.de/giger/newyork/hr_giger_newyorkcity_VIII.jpg

I would cast Sean Penn for Darkseid/ Zod.


http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/cms/2004/realguide_162x198/mov_sincity_willis_bruce_tall.6796062.jpg
^Martian

[HUMAN]

What if they made Vril Dox/Brainiac Kryptonian? That way we could have both "mind over muscle" and some good fights.

To make it connect with the old movies Lex could have a plot to unleash a deadly gas pellet that nearly kills everyone in Metropolis, where then Lex and Brainiac can rebuild a new world of their own.