The Official Blue Beetle Thread

[Assassin]

he's the new shazam

[SonOfCthulhu]

I've stopped bumping the BB thread because I don't like to admit that I'm still buying this title. Every week I find another excuse to give Giffen one more chance to snag me. Every week I'm let down.

The first two issues were interesting, with the before and after OYL plotlines intermingled. It didn't rock my boat, but I found reason to hope it would build up to something. Issue three was a letdown. It had punch, but not enough for where the story had been taking us. Blue Beetle reappears after a year and tells his parents he's a superhero. The reveal is squandered, something that should have been a book-length story takes five pages and hasn't been spoken of for three issues. Note that the remainder of that issue and the next dealt with him telling his homeboy and the abused girl they hung out with about his "superhero secret". So family is worth 5 pages and friends are worth a book and a half?

Since then I've even had something happen to me that's never happened before. I picked up issue 6 and had to look to see if I had read issue 5. Issue 6 has the poorest transition from a previous issue that I have ever seen. I thought I had missed something. We moved all the characters from a torn up wreck on the highway to the middle of the desert beside a meta-groups hideout with no exposition explaining how they got there. I actually went back to the comic shop to see if I missed an issue somewhere.

Fine, writers can take the stories where they want to. But let me say that the trade-off here has been a poor one. We get lots of Jaime fighting magical whatists while talking to the suit. Stories where Jaime is running around on autopilot with the suit doing all the hard work is kinda lame. To the poster that said he's like a young hispanic Ted Kord, I beg to differ. Ted Kord was an accomplished inventor with a high-level IQ and a trained fighter. Jaime isn't anything without the suit.

And that's what makes this mag not work for me. If I want to watch the "magical plot device" solve the problem week after week, the Blue Beetle is a fine book. And yes, it is like The Guyver manga series in that respect. Whatever Blue Beetle needs, the armor provides with instructions on how to use it. For me, though, I prefer a book where the hero has to do some thinking to outwit the badguys. Only once in the entire 6 issues has Jaime had to do that.

Also Giffen has let me down. His characters are bland and the emphasis on action scenes over character development makes this too much of a kiddie read. I like rock-em, sock-em action as much as the next guy, but do we really need to see a two pages of Paco being chased by dudes on motorcycles.

[Assassin]

and how many ****ing ppl know his secret already?

[SonOfCthulhu]

and how many ****ing ppl know his secret already?

His mom, dad, and sister
Paco, his best friend from school
Brenda, this girl from school he was friends with who's Father used to beat her up
La Dama (the villian that is holding all the meta humans)
All the members of the Posse (about 6-7 magical hispanic teenagers)
Biker dude who beats up people
The Phantom Stranger
Oracle and by association the Birds of Prey
Guy Gardner
Booster Gold (deceased)

Hell, if Jaime pulled a Peter Parker the media would say "Meh, we know already."

[Assassin]

i know all that dude i was being sarcastic, its like ****ing every body who he comes in conatct with knows

[SonOfCthulhu]

i know all that dude i was being sarcastic, its like ****ing every body who he comes in conatct with knows

I had to state the obvious.

[bunk]

That book turned out to be pretty boring and disapointing. The new armor design is cool but Jamie is a weak character. I was disapointed by Cully's art too. It's just not as good as his other stuff. Batman Tenses, Red, Authority is all so much better looking...

[LouFerignoDemon]

The concept is cool enough with the armor alone. But the book is just...crap.

[regwec]

It's another of these DC "one year later" books where something needs to actually happen. The shock of the new is not sufficient to sustain a storyline for more than a brace of issues.

[Arkady Rossovich]

The second i heard that the new Bettle was a minority,it was bad.

[MyPokerShirt]

i thought id give it a shot with issue 6... i was bored and wanted something to read and i was also interested in the big revelation about the armor... wow... i couldnt have been more dissapointed unless i read issue 1 of the flash again... the big revelation was week, the art was childish... the characters were all boring... they killed ted kord for this?

HEY! The new flash series is good. Leave it! grrrrr.

[MyPokerShirt]

The second i heard that the new Bettle was a minority,it was bad.

:o

This sounds like you just said that blue beetle being a minority would be bad? Tell me you didn't say that. Tell me I missed the context.

[The Leaguer]

The second i heard that the new Bettle was a minority,it was bad.
Was the old Bettle white? What were his powers?

[Kitsune]

That book turned out to be pretty boring and disapointing. The new armor design is cool but Jamie is a weak character. I was disapointed by Cully's art too. It's just not as good as his other stuff. Batman Tenses, Red, Authority is all so much better looking...
The whole thing reminds me of the new Firestorm a while back... I wonder how long DC is going to keep this stinker floating.

[The Question]

Biker dude who beats up people



His name's Peacemaker.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Peacemakerdc.jpg

[Kitsune]

His name's Peacemaker.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Peacemakerdc.jpg
Why is he wearing a toilet seat on his head?

[Emerald Knight]

His name's Peacemaker.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Peacemakerdc.jpg

holy crap! the guy's wearing the head of a Cyberman as a helmet! :up:

;)

:D

[yenaled]

Would you mess with someone with a toilet on their head?

[Darthphere]

Ive been enjoying BB, but ill probably end up dropping it soon.

[yenaled]

I enjoy it, I'm going to keep reading - but well it depends on if Cully Hammner decides to ever draw the book again.

[Assassin]

this thread is booooooring

[Colossal Spoons]

Ive been enjoying BB, but ill probably end up dropping it soon.

WTH lol. Why?

[Darthphere]

WTH lol. Why?


Its not out of this world great but its not bad, but I can think of a couple of titles that would be more worth my time.

[Colossal Spoons]

Right, I'd jump on board if that kid weren't so whiney and the art were better.

[Darthphere]

The kid isnt whiny, at all. Its one of the thigns I like about him. I actually like the character, but the book is moving a tad too slow.

[Anubis]

I dropped it after issue 3. It wasn' that I didn't like it, but simply that it didn't really wow me. So I replaced it with Uncle Sam on my pull list.

[SonOfCthulhu]

His name's Peacemaker.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Peacemakerdc.jpg

Not sure where or why Giffen is throwing him in the mix. Unless it's to kill him off. DC = Dead Charltons

[The Leaguer]

I dropped it after issue 3. It wasn' that I didn't like it, but simply that it didn't really wow me. So I replaced it with Uncle Sam on my pull list.
Uncle Sam f***ing rocks.

[yenaled]

Indeed it does.

I can't believe how much it rules compaired to how much Battle for Bludhaven sucked.

I just wish Ray Terrill filled the Firebrand role in the series (waxing lyrical about how Uncle Sam is coming - seemingly almost insane). At least the he would have a place and we could forget about Stan Silver.

[Darthphere]

Uncle Sam is worth making love to.

[Assassin]

i didnt bother reading uncle sam, i think that whole concept is played out

[Darthphere]

i didnt bother reading uncle sam, i think that whole concept is played out


Says the guy with a major victory avatar.

[Assassin]

i'm in denial, and i dont have a better one at the moment

[TheCorpulent1]

Uncle Sam is worth making love to.
Doesn't it almost make BfB worth it? Almost?

[Darthphere]

Doesn't it almost make BfB worth it? Almost?


No. :dry:

[Kevin]

Just because i like to bring up old threads, what's been happening with Jaime?

[Tropico]

Haha, Trop is gonna verbally eviscerate you soon.

Damn, 3 months later!!!:mad::(

Darth is Hispanic?:wow: Naaaaaaah.

[WompuM]

You know why salsa is the number 1 condiment? Because people like to say SAL-sa!!!

[Kevin]

Man, you guys really must've given up on this book. Oh well, overall, I'm into it.:up:

[Kitsune]

All I can say is "The killed Ted Cord off for this?"

[Artistsean]

I think they should bring Ted Kord and Dan Garret (the two original Blue Beetles) back as ghosts.
It could be because of the Scarab.

[Darthphere]

All I can say is "The killed Ted Cord off for this?"


Yeah, an entertaining book.:up:

[Kitsune]

If by Entertaining you mean unbearably boring, then yes.

[Darthphere]

If by having no taste you mean Kitsune, then yes.

[yenaled]

I enjoy this book, it's a bit slow but it's a good read each week.

Also it is Kord, if you grieve for the guy at least know his name.

[slipalong]

I always thought Ted Kord was underrated.

I'm following this new series to see where it goes but I'm finding it all a bit slow paced to be honest.

Decompression is the worst thing to happen to comics in their entire history IMO

[Kitsune]

If by Entertaining you mean unbearably boring, then yes.
Yes I do mean that you have no taste.

[CConn]

...you quoted yourself.

So...does that mean it's agreed you have no taste?

[yenaled]

I read the last issue just and really enjoyed it. Metron is always fun and the story actually seems to be going places now.

Looking forward to next issue and finding out what exactly the Reach is. Hopefully it will be a good pay off.

[SuGarRush]

Heres a quick question,
Is the real Beetle still alive or not?

[Darthphere]

What is real? How do you define real? Is real what you can see, taste, touch and smell? Then real is simply defined as electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

[yenaled]

Dan Garrett is dead. That fake one, Ted Kord, is also dead.

[Kevin]

This thread came back from the dead. Does that count?

[Artistsean]

So in Manhunter that wasn't actually Ted Kord? Who was that?

[Darthphere]

Jesus.

[Kebab gud]

no it was Tom Cruise..

[Artistsean]

Wow, that Tom Cruis has REALLY lost it.
What a nutbar.

[Kitsune]

Wow, that Tom Cruis has REALLY lost it.
What a nutbar.

You can't lose it, when you never had it.

[Artistsean]

True, but his publicist hid it well.

[SuGarRush]

KK so I understand Dan is dead and gone, but Ted didn't come back in Manhunter?

[yenaled]

Of course he didn't. He's still dead in the DC Teaser image isn't he.

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe he dies again and, in the issue where it goes down, the usual DC Nation page will be replaced by a picture of DiDio going, "LOLZ!"

[Kevin]

What was the lastest issue that came out?

[yenaled]

What was the lastest issue that came out?

11.

[Kevin]

11.
Thank you.

[Artistsean]

I thought if Ted Kord came back it would be HUGE news, then again I thought Captain Marvel's return in Marvel would have been HUGE too.

I think he might return in the Teaser thing, they said someone will right?

[yenaled]

Ted's not coming back for a while, if at all. If DC were to bring him back now it would just negate everything DC are trying to push at the moment. Same goes with Connor.

[3dman27]

whats the verdict on the new blue beetle?

[Kebab gud]

i like it.. i hated the fact that a kid was taking over the name and that he had "powers" but i like it..

[WOLVERINE25TH]

It started off decent, but just nothin' incredibly spectacular about the book.

[Darthphere]

Hes great. The character of Jaime Reyes is just refreshing, a lot like old school Peter Parker. The book itself is solid every month. Entertaining and the like. It doesn't try to reinvent the wheel and I like that personally. Nothing spectacular or groundbreaking, just a fun solid comic.

[Prognosticator]

Darth, do you see him getting tangled into the DCU web anytime soon, or is he going to stay on the fringes until he's a little more established?

[Darthphere]

Darth, do you see him getting tangled into the DCU web anytime soon, or is he going to stay on the fringes until he's a little more established?

Who knows, but he's showing up in Brave and the Bold #3 alongside Batman, so that may be a start to greater things. But I dont see him joing the Teen Titans or anything like that anytime soon. Part of the appeal is that he's El Paso's only superhero.

[Prognosticator]

^That's cool. Is 'el Paso' written from an outsider's perspective or do you get the feeling that the writer really knows what that part of the country is like?

[Darthphere]

^That's cool. Is 'el Paso' written from an outsider's perspective or do you get the feeling that the writer really knows what that part of the country is like?

I'm sure they've seen pictures. :dry:

I've never been to El Paso but it seems right to me. Deserts, small towns, the like.

[Kebab gud]

Hes great. The character of Jaime Reyes is just refreshing, a lot like old school Peter Parker. The book itself is solid every month. Entertaining and the like. It doesn't try to reinvent the wheel and I like that personally. Nothing spectacular or groundbreaking, just a fun solid comic.
In a way yeah .. but his family and friends all know his secret and help him.. so its a bit refreshing just that

[Darthphere]

Ok....

[Varient]

whats the verdict on the new blue beetle?

It's been steadly improving.
:oldrazz:

[CConn]

I really like the character and concept, but I haven't been particularly impressed with the actual comic. It's decent, but it could be much, much better, and I think the character deserves that.

[yenaled]

It's a steadily good book. Enjoyable and a change of pace from the normal DC comics. I like how Jaime isn't a savvy about who everyone is and the elements of the universe.

[LouFerignoDemon]

I like it. I'm not sure if I like the whole it's not a magical scarab anymore that much, but I like the book. It's not super necessary to read, and it isn't instrumental to the entire DCU or anything, but it IS pretty cool, and there IS potential.

[PWN3R]

Is there a trade of the first arc yet?

[CConn]

Yeah, and the second volume will be out in a few months.

[PWN3R]

oh snap son

[3dman27]

t bought the first two issues yesterday the scarab going ibto his body reminded me of the GUYVER movies

[SouLeSS]

It started sllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooo ooowwwwwwwwwww. It's better now, but I still dropped it, because it was a semi-above mediocer book. I just didn't like his supporting characters, and I only had like 15$ this week to pick up my books so it was either drop this, or superman for the time being.

Truth be told, I'd rather of dropped superman. At least the most recent issue.

[GoldenAgeHero]

yeah i wish buesiek would've continued with the camelot falls storyline.

[Darthphere]

He is.

[Purple Man]

Blue Beetle (Ted Kord included) always gave me that Spider-Man feel which definitly isn't a bad thing.

Though the idea of some sentient alien bio techno armor (I have no clue what I just said) is on the verge of cliche, but Beetle boy pulls it off.

I'll admit I wasn't exactly impressed by his appearence in Infinite Crisis, it just seemed to scream "Buy Blue Beetle monthly!" but his very brief appearence in the Brave and the Bold has warmed me up a bit to the character. By the time the next issue comes out, I'll probably develop a certain loathing for Spider-Man once I'm reminded how cool lone teen super heroes can be.

[Eros]

whats the verdict on the new blue beetle?


I prefer Kord, they wanted a spanish superhero, then make up a completly new one, with their own name.

[Kebab gud]

I prefer Kord, they wanted a spanish superhero, then make up a completly new one, with their own name.

yeah... like Vibe... ohh wait.. he sucked donkey balls

[Eros]

yeah... like Vibe... ohh wait.. he sucked donkey balls


Vibe was okay, but I wish they would just create a brand new minority hero, with a new name and origin etc. None of this killing off old charaters, and replace them with a member of the U.N. Atom is asian now, and Firestorm is black, and Blue beattle is spanish now. How hard is it, to sit down and make a new cool minorty hero. I know most of DC creative staff is white males, but come on now.

[LouFerignoDemon]

How does that make a difference?

[Eros]

How does that make a difference?


How does what make a difference?

[LouFerignoDemon]

Vibe was okay, but I wish they would just create a brand new minority hero, with a new name and origin etc. None of this killing off old charaters, and replace them with a member of the U.N. Atom is asian now, and Firestorm is black, and Blue beattle is spanish now. How hard is it, to sit down and make a new cool minorty hero. I know most of DC creative staff is white males, but come on now.

That.

[Kitsune]

How does DC keep floating these comics? Aren't Blue Beetle and Firestorm amount their worst selling comics?

[Eros]

That.


Generally speaking, white males do not like creating brand new minority characters. Its the same scenario with people of all races as a matter of fact. what color do you think most premiere superheroes would be if black comic book creators started the DCU?

[CConn]

Generally speaking, white males do not like creating brand new minority characters. Its the same scenario with people of all races as a matter of fact. what color do you think most premiere superheroes would be if black comic book creators started the DCU?
I dunno about that, the Jews in Hollywood love Christmas.

It's not about who you are, it's about who your costumers are. And, I'm pretty damn sure, most comic book readers are white, 15-25yo men, of course MOST of the characters out there are going to be white men.

[Eros]

I dunno about that, the Jews in Hollywood love Christmas.

It's not about who you are, it's about who your costumers are. And, I'm pretty damn sure, most comic book readers are white, 15-25yo men, of course MOST of the characters out there are going to be white men.


Your very correct Cconn, and why is that, because white males like to read about white males.

[CConn]

It's because people like to identify with their heroes. And race and sex is the most visible barrier.

[Eros]

It's because people like to identify with their heroes. And race and sex is the most visible barrier.


your right again man. I personally don't think race or sex should matter, I mean if you like something, you should just like it.

[Varient]

How does DC keep floating these comics? Aren't Blue Beetle and Firestorm amount their worst selling comics?

nope.

[Kitsune]

nope.

Actually I know Firestorm has been one of the worst, it was supposed to be cancled two months ago, but for some reason DC keeps cranking them out anyway.

[Darthphere]

In relation to how many copies of the comic they print, they're good sellers. I dont know what the deal with Firestorm is, its probably a case of its sales continue to fall or something.

[Tropico]

The solicitations for Firestorm already had a blurb for the last issue so it's going to be cancelled.

As for the race, ethnicity, sex, whatever issue...one of the maxims of writing is "write what you know". If you're a white male that was mostly around female minorities all your life and almost never had male friends, guess what's going to be easier to write? White super powered males? You could, but it's going to seem "off". It's like what happened at the start of the comic; I'm Latino, but some of the "flavor" they kinda tried to inject with the language and stuff seemed off to me. Of course, maybe to a kid from a Mexican family that lives in Texas (specifically in El Paso) it seems spot on. Of course, I could be wrong and a person more or less in Jaime's situation would also see it as someone trying to portray the inner workings of a culture they don't understand. They can get the general idea right but the details are wrong and, to those that can tell, the details are what are important and might turn you off the character.

In regards to Jaime as a legacy character...the only way I can understand the reluctance (at this point in the game) is still because of the name and Kord's death. Otherwise, Jaime is a completely different character. He's not even like the first BB that used the scarab. This BB isn't like Firestorm or the Atom who share more similarities with their predecessors than he does.

There are a bunch of JSA legacy characters that have also broken their predecessors' molds: Dr. Mid-Nite, Wildcat II, Mr. Terrific, Jakeem Thunder, Crimson Avenger, Eclipso II (I know, he's not exactly legacy) and Stargirl (changed the Star Spangled Kid AND Starman mantle from male to female). While I understand that DC's OYL introduction of new characters was probably "too much at the same time" for some people it's not like this is a new thing. I, for one, welcome this diversity and like that DC has a sense of legacy in terms of their characters.

[Kitsune]

My biggest problem is the feeling that DC is killing off characters soully to replace them with minorities. Blue Beetles being shot to the head didn't really feel necessary, Firestorm was practically killed off panel. Terrific and Jakeem don't have that vibe to them.

[Tropico]

My biggest problem is the feeling that DC is killing off characters soully to replace them with minorities. Blue Beetles being shot to the head didn't really feel necessary, Firestorm was practically killed off panel. Terrific and Jakeem don't have that vibe to them.

If you read the Firestorm comic you would have seen that Ronnie's death wasn't off panel. Who else, apart from BB, is what gives you this feeling?

[Kevin]

In a way yeah .. but his family and friends all know his secret and help him.. so its a bit refreshing just that
That's the best damn part about the character. Book gets an :up.

[Kevin]

Vibe was okay, but I wish they would just create a brand new minority hero, with a new name and origin etc. None of this killing off old charaters, and replace them with a member of the U.N. Atom is asian now, and Firestorm is black, and Blue beattle is spanish now. How hard is it, to sit down and make a new cool minorty hero. I know most of DC creative staff is white males, but come on now.
:dry: They're trying to give the characters a chance. Bringing out completely new characters and new heroes is not impossible, but very difficult to take with fans. I'm perfectly fine with what they are doing.

[The Watchman]

Blue Beetle is one of the best titles DC has right now, and one of the most under-appreciated.

I came in cautiously pessimistic, and was pleasantly surprised, I only even tried it because of Giffen and Hamner, and now that both are gone it's still as good if not better.

[Kevin]

Two reason I wanted to read the book. He's a teen and I wanted to read about a hispanic character. People do think like this. But don't get me wrong, race doesn't really matter to me, just wanted to give the book a chance soley for those reasons.

[The Watchman]

This title could be DC's Ultimate Spider-man if it was marketed correctly.

actually it reads a lot like early USM, and certainly surpasses it now.

[Kitsune]

Well I admit to not reading it very carefully, but I didn't care for it much. I remember thinking "They Killed Ted Cord for this" Not so much the character, but I'm not liking the whole "A Formerly Mystical Item is now shown to be high tech thing"

[The Watchman]

Not all is as it appears...

[Varient]

Actually I know Firestorm has been one of the worst, it was supposed to be cancled two months ago, but for some reason DC keeps cranking them out anyway.

You originally said that they were the two worst.

I simply disagree.

By personal pref,.. Manhunter is worse,.. whenever another hero comes into that book their character changes.

Followed closely by Nightwing. I used to really like this one,.. but something happened to Richard Grayson the character,.. and the writer can't seem to save it.

Based on CBR News Top 300 Comics est for feb 2007,.. Firestorm beat out more popular titles like the JLA which sat in the high 290's compared to Firestorms high 120's.


http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10146

Not here to argue,.. I'll discuss if you like,.. but the two you don't like are no where near the worst DC has to offer.

V.

[SouLeSS]

You do realize that the JLA that was at 29X was a reprint, right?

[Varient]

You do realize that the JLA that was at 29X was a reprint, right?

Nope I did not,... Even if I am wrong,.. the point remains that by sales Blue Beetle was at 129 OUT OF 300.

definetly not the worst.:oldrazz:

[The Watchman]

Not to mention, sales don't equate to quality. Blue Beetle is a seriously under-rated title.

[Darthphere]

Not to mention, sales don't equate to quality. Blue Beetle is a seriously under-rated title.

So true, so true.

[Mogwai]

do any readers of blue beetle recommend the first trade (shellshocked)? i was thinking about picking it up?

[SouLeSS]

Considering it sets up most of everything to do with the characters and support, I'm going to go with "yes"

[yenaled]

Yes, pick it up.

[Darthphere]

Please do.

[GoldenAgeHero]

meh,pick up invinicible instead, if you're not already reading it. blue beettle is an decent book, but if you're interested in teen heroes(like spidey was back in the day) invincible is the book for you. its a very refereshing book to the whole teen superhero genre.

[Darthphere]

Why not pick up both? I know GAH, its a difficult concept to comprehend.

[CConn]

GAH could be poor.

[SouLeSS]

I laugh at poor people.

[CConn]

I throw money at them.

It may seem like a nice gesture, but a quarter to the skull hurts like hell when thrown out of a moving car.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Why not pick up both? I know GAH, its a difficult concept to comprehend.


or he could save himself extra money by just picking up invinicble(if he is'nt already)

but hey if you like paco and his bettle borg suit then go ahead.

[Darthphere]

or he could save himself extra money by just picking up invinicble(if he is'nt already)

but hey if you like paco and his bettle borg suit then go ahead.

His name is Jaime, his friend is Paco, you clearly dont even read the title. Congrats! You're a dumbass.:whatever:

If you do read the title, good job with the racist undertone. :up:

[Dread]

I read both this and INVINCIBLE, actually.

I've enjoyed BLUE BEETLE although it can be an awkward title. Sometimes it is generic, and lingered on his origin a bit too long in the beginning. But he is dramatically different from the past BB's while still vaguely linked to their "legacy". I usually enjoy the main character and the dialogue more than the actual plots. Hamner's art is fine but some of his fill-in's are hit or miss. Beetle and Peacemaker, though, are making for a fine buddy team. There has to be one to replace Quantum & Woody.

This isn't a title I eagerly await every month, but when it comes I buy it and usually enjoy it, even if I forget half of it by the time I am done. I've remained faithful to far worse, so I'm on BB for now.

Jamie's still less of a gutless putz than USM is after a year's worth of issues, though, which is appreciated.

[Darthphere]

Cully is off the title.

[GoldenAgeHero]

His name is Jaime, his friend is Paco, you clearly dont even read the title. Congrats! You're a dumbass.:whatever:

If you do read the title, good job with the racist undertone. :up:


i try. ask varient lol

[Dread]

Cully is off the title.

Bummer. Oh, well, the last issue's art wasn't too bad.

It is interesting that BB is simular to USM yet isn't marketted as such, although USM was, well Spider-Man, whereas Blue Beetle doesn't have that kind of "instant draw". For all the preening about "drawing new readers", the Ultimate titles mostly fed on disallusioned older ones in the beginning, and any Spider-vehicle has a built-in audience. BLUE BEETLE, despite simularities, lacks that "instant fanbase" so it has been a struggle.

[Darthphere]

i try. ask varient lol

I'm sure your mom is proud.

[Darthphere]

Bummer. Oh, well, the last issue's art wasn't too bad.

It is interesting that BB is simular to USM yet isn't marketted as such, although USM was, well Spider-Man, whereas Blue Beetle doesn't have that kind of "instant draw". For all the preening about "drawing new readers", the Ultimate titles mostly fed on disallusioned older ones in the beginning, and any Spider-vehicle has a built-in audience. BLUE BEETLE, despite simularities, lacks that "instant fanbase" so it has been a struggle.

Yeah, and to be honest, I don't think DC has done enough to promote this book at all. Putting him in the Brave and the Bold might be a step in the right direction, but I doubt it will garner any new readers. The whole thing holding him back IMO is the fan outcry about Ted Kord. Just like the new Firestorm, the old fans seem to not want to embrace the new character. And there really isn't a way I can fault them for that, but if more people gave BB a try, they might like it.

Like I've said before, I hear people dismiss the book saying "its nothing spectacular" because every book needs to be? Maybe standards are set too high.

[GoldenAgeHero]

I'm sure your mom is proud.

indeed.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Yeah, and to be honest, I don't think DC has done enough to promote this book at all. Putting him in the Brave and the Bold might be a step in the right direction, but I doubt it will garner any new readers. The whole thing holding him back IMO is the fan outcry about Ted Kord. Just like the new Firestorm, the old fans seem to not want to embrace the new character. And there really isn't a way I can fault them for that, but if more people gave BB a try, they might like it.

Like I've said before, I hear people dismiss the book saying "its nothing spectacular" because every book needs to be? Maybe standards are set too high.

because it is nothing spectacular,blue bettle is a title that you really could'nt care less if you dropped it or not, it really does'nt have that hold on readers that makes them want to come back for seconds. and yeah i guess everybook needs to be spectacular,especially by your crusty ass standards;

darth: oh my god GL suck.
darth: oh my god Teen Titans suck
darth: oh my god batman sucks.
etc.

I kind of find it funny with you,when other people want to dismiss a book you like, you're like what gives:huh:

then you come back around and criticize other people's tastes in books.:dry:

but enough about that, how was your day sweety?:hyper:

[Darthphere]

because it is nothing spectacular,blue bettle is a title that you really could'nt care less if you dropped it or not, it really does'nt have that hold on readers that makes them want to come back for seconds. and yeah i guess everybook needs to be spectacular,especially by your crusty ass standards;

darth: oh my god GL suck.
darth: oh my god Teen Titans suck
darth: oh my god batman sucks.
etc.

I kind of find it funny with you,when other people want to dismiss a book you like, you're like what gives:huh:

then you come back around and criticize other people's tastes in books.:dry:



Kind of like how you're doing right now?:o

And please, don't misquote me, its "Green Lantern ****ing sucks". Clear difference there.

Really, at this point, how many times do I need to explain myself on those titles? Its boring at this point.

About Blue Beetle, its consistently good. Its entertaining, and just plain fun. When I use the word spectacular, I'm talking about it not being tied to some huge event, not having a Batman or Superman guest appearance to up sales, it doesn't have a superstar artist that can only draw 5 issues a year, it doesn't have a huge name writing it like a Geoff Johns. Its not tied to a gimmick. And really at this point, I know you haven't read a single issue of this comic.

[The Watchman]

For me personally it actually is a must read ever month, one of the best books DC puts out, you can't just marginalize such a wonderfully written comic. If you've actually read it, it's anything but generic. Like I said, I'm not the biggest fan of killing off characters and the whole legacy thing, but they made something extremely positive out of it in this instance.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Ive heard a few good things about it,but sales are lacking from what i have read recently.Even concerns about a cancelation.

[Tropico]

I only read it because I'm Latino.:whatever:

[CConn]

I only read it because I'm Latino.:whatever:
And I only read it because you're Latino. :(

[SouLeSS]

They need to throw him on other peoples titles, throw him in there on GL for a couple of issues or something

[Varient]

They need to throw him on other peoples titles, throw him in there on GL for a couple of issues or something

I expect that he'll do a flyby on the titans,..... And I would PAY to have him come and drool over Big Barda in Birds of Prey,..
(Notice I didn't say huntress,.. she needs,... a few things before she deserves to be a teen-age boys fantasy) ,.. Barda is written mature enough to be flattered w/o flattening him,...

That and it gives an excuse to have a MotherBox "talk" to the scarab"

They NEED to keep the good writing of consistant stories going and keep him in the comic view.

You'll notice that they have yet to put an upper limit on his power?
Surviving Guy Gardner,
Fighting a sword weilding New God,.. folk who "superman" must pay attention to,
Transportation, power output and gear limited only by his imagination,...

If the rings of GL's are "upset" about the scarab abilities,.. this points to planet leveling power being possible if only Jamie realizes.


whoops, almost started ranting.

:oldrazz:

[SouLeSS]

Green Lanter // Blue Beetle crossover would be pretty interesting, what with the rings and the scrab and how they act. Ya?

[PWN3R]

I am SO glad I finally jumped on this title. I bought the first trade and liked it, then got #7-14. I love this book. Its, fun. I know, it sounds crazy, fun reading comic books? Its no big event, or countdown or war or anal sex, yet its fun. I love it. Wheeee.

[Varient]

So,...

Guy Gardner being CIVIL?

And giving GOOD ADVICE??

AND GIVING PROPS TO TED KORD???



I LOVE THIS BOOK!!!!!

[Kebab gud]

So,...

Guy Gardner being CIVIL?

And giving GOOD ADVICE??

AND GIVING PROPS TO TED KORD???



you know why right? he can feel it in the air that Ice is back !

[Tarnish]

I got the first trade, and I have to admit, I'm intrigued.

[3dman27]

i think i'll pass on this series i prefer the ted kord beetle

[Darthphere]

How many issues of the new Blue Beetle did you read?

[Assassin]

None, do you know why Roger? because he prefers the Ted Kord Blue Beetle :rolleyes:

[CConn]

That's some ****ed up **** right there.

[SonOfCthulhu]

Have the story transitions between issues gotten any better since 1-6? From what I recall, everytime I picked up an issue it was like a whole chunk of plot arc had been left behind/cut out after the last issue ended.

[Darthphere]

None, do you know why Roger? because he prefers the Ted Kord Blue Beetle :rolleyes:

The word prefer is a word used based on a judgement, therefore to use that word you must have sampled more than one thing. If he said, I'm not interested in any other Blue Beetle other than Ted Kord, than your idiotic attempt at being snarky would have succeeded. Alas, it did not, further cementing your lack of intelligence.

Furthermore, if he hasn't read any of the new Blue Beetle, than he can't make a judgement as to which he prefers.

Thank you and good night.

[Assassin]

The word prefer is a word used based on a judgement, therefore to use that word you must have sampled more than one thing. If he said, I'm not interested in any other Blue Beetle other than Ted Kord, than your idiotic attempt at being snarky would have succeeded. Alas, it did not, further cementing your lack of intelligence.

Furthermore, if he hasn't read any of the new Blue Beetle, than he can't make a judgement as to which he prefers.

Thank you and good night.

Looks like you can't make judgment on a joke, furthermore, put a bullet in your head. :heart:

[CConn]

Good points all around.

[Aristotle]

They need to throw him on other peoples titles, throw him in there on GL for a couple of issues or somethingYou're right! That's EXACTLY what the DCU needs right now! MORE cameos! It's just too damn discontinuous these days.

you know why right? he can feel it in the air that Ice is back !He can feel it, comin' in the air tonight...oh lawd...

i think i'll pass on this series i prefer the ted kord beetleNo arguments there, but I prefer the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern, and I still read all the GL books.

The word prefer is a word used based on a judgement, therefore to use that word you must have sampled more than one thing. If he said, I'm not interested in any other Blue Beetle other than Ted Kord, than your idiotic attempt at being snarky would have succeeded. Alas, it did not, further cementing your lack of intelligence.

Furthermore, if he hasn't read any of the new Blue Beetle, than he can't make a judgement as to which he prefers.

Thank you and good night.I think that was Ass's point. The guy's making a judgment without viewing both options. And you don't have to have sampled more than one option to make a judgment: I judge that I prefer being alive to being dead, without having sampled deadness. However, in many cases, it makes sense to give multiple options a shot before choosing one. That, I believe, was Ass's point, and probably yours.

[Assassin]

Thats what the :rolleyes: was supost to indicate, he just likes being an ass

[Darthphere]

You know it!

[CConn]

I prefer the Jaime Reyes Beetle.

[Assassin]

I prefer the pre yoko beetles myself

[Aristotle]

I prefer the pre-Yoko Beatles as well. However, Jaime Reyes is wearing on me a little. Kid heroes are always a little dangerous, writingwise, because the witty banter, the what-am-I-doing-here confusion, and the teenage angst are just a little too much sometimes. These heroes are crafted to appeal to teens, but what they end up doing is just making teens look ineffectual and worthless.

[Kevin]

Jaime > Ted

[CConn]

I prefer the pre-Yoko Beatles as well. However, Jaime Reyes is wearing on me a little. Kid heroes are always a little dangerous, writingwise, because the witty banter, the what-am-I-doing-here confusion, and the teenage angst are just a little too much sometimes. These heroes are crafted to appeal to teens, but what they end up doing is just making teens look ineffectual and worthless.
I don't think Jaime's been particularly angst-y. Nor is his dialogue that bad. Sure the "what am I doing here?" thing has gone on a bit long, but it's not a horrible concern. For me, at least.

[Assassin]

someone needs to take him under his wing and train him in the arts of batman :up:

[CConn]

Like Superman. :up:

[Assassin]

superman cant fight, He should spend some time with wild cat or hell even Guy Gardner to learn how to brawl.

[Darthphere]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=130790

DC Comics announces that the story originally solicited to appear in BLUE BEETLE #21 now will appear in issue #22, with a new story running in issue #21.

BLUE BEETLE #21 (SEP070192) now will feature a story written by Justin Peniston with art by Andy Kuhn (Firebreather) and a cover by Rafael Albuquerque. In this story, Jaime Reyes gets a shot at punishing the man who crippled his father — only to discover he’s in line behind the Spectre, making for one of the young hero’s hardest choices yet!

BLUE BEETLE #21 (SEP070192) is solicited in the September Previews and is scheduled to arrive in stores on November 28.

BLUE BEETLE #22 (OCT070164) now will feature a story written by John Rogers with art and cover by Rafael Albuquerque, originally scheduled to run in issue #21. In this story, Jaime Reyes gets an extra boost from the Beetle legacy via Ted Kord’s gadgets and Dan Garrett’s niece as he uncovers the Reach’s plan for mind-controlling Earth!

BLUE BEETLE #22 (OCT070164) is solicited in the October Previews and is scheduled to arrive inn stores on December 26.

The story originally scheduled to appear in issue #22 now will run in issue #23, which will be solicited in the November Previews for January in-store.

[TheCorpulent1]

So the Sinestro Corps tie-in's been pushed back? That's annoying. But it's just the Sinestro Corps, so I don't really care. I actually was looking forward to the story about Dan Garrett's niece a lot more, and the new story for #21 sounds interesting. I don't know about Justin Peniston, though. John Rogers and Keith Giffen have kicked too much ass for me to readily trust some other guy with Jaime...

[Assassin]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=130790

all i saw was newsarama and assumed its was cancled, dont do that any more, ******* :cmad:

[Varient]

Latest issue brought a tear to my eye.

[TheCorpulent1]

Really? I laughed and smiled the whole time. I liked the no-nonsense explanation that the siblings who were helping Jaime gave to Brenda about the La Dama/Blue Beetle thing, too.

[Varient]

Really? I laughed and smiled the whole time. I liked the no-nonsense explanation that the siblings who were helping Jaime gave to Brenda about the La Dama/Blue Beetle thing, too.

My tear came from:

The points on La Dama trying to change for family,
Jamie being defended by his geek squad
Jamie sending his MOM to his best friend.

You so rarely have stories where the motivations of the characters are positive and easily understood.

But yeah,.. I was smiling at parts too,...

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, yeah, the bit with his mom at the end was great. I really like how Jaime's superhero and personal worlds are so wholly interconnected. It's such a refreshing change from all of the standard "I can never reveal my secret identity to the woman/man/people/chimps/dancing clowns I love!" stories that have had a resurgence thanks to their use in so many of the recent superhero movies.

[Prognosticator]

Has the Blue Beetle/Synestro Corps tie-in issue come out yet??

[TheCorpulent1]

No. It's been pushed back (http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12848908&postcount=103), actually.

Anyone else enjoying the fact that Traci Thirteen is dating Jaime now? If we see more of her and the Croatoan Society, Blue Beetle will officially go beyond just being a better book than Shadowpact and become a better magic book than Shadowpact. Cancel that **** and publish a Croatoan Society comic with frequent Blue Beetle cameos and Dr. Thirteen backups. :up:

[Varient]

No. It's been pushed back (http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12848908&postcount=103), actually.

Anyone else enjoying the fact that Traci Thirteen is dating Jaime now? If we see more of her and the Croatoan Society, Blue Beetle will officially go beyond just being a better book than Shadowpact and become a better magic book than Shadowpact. Cancel that **** and publish a Croatoan Society comic with frequent Blue Beetle cameos and Dr. Thirteen backups. :up:

I think it's "cute" and it will protect him from the Harpies in the Titans.

[TheCorpulent1]

Traci Thirteen should join the Teen Titans. They don't have much magic protection with Raven gone. :up:

[Prognosticator]

No. It's been pushed back (http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12848908&postcount=103), actually.

Anyone else enjoying the fact that Traci Thirteen is dating Jaime now? If we see more of her and the Croatoan Society, Blue Beetle will officially go beyond just being a better book than Shadowpact and become a better magic book than Shadowpact. Cancel that **** and publish a Croatoan Society comic with frequent Blue Beetle cameos and Dr. Thirteen backups. :up:

ARG!!

I don't want to forget to get it. :csad:

[Darthphere]

ARG!!

I don't want to forget to get it. :csad:

Um, just put Blue Beetle on your pull list.:huh:

[Prognosticator]

I know... But I don't wanna forget to do that. :csad:

[TheCorpulent1]

So write a post-it and stick it to your forehead. S'what I do.

[Prognosticator]

I just saw the GL/Corps sollicits through the end of the year...wowie, a 10-parter, eh? ...PLUS all of the one-shots.

They got me! :o

[TheCorpulent1]

I just wish it'd end already. The post-Sinestro Corps stuff sounds infinitely more interesting than more of the GL Corps and the Sinestro Corps fighting for month after month after month. :o

[Noir]

I picked up #20 today, its ashame about peace-keeper, but that scarab looked infinitely more badass on him.

[SouLeSS]

So is he gonna become a Titan or what? Cause he's been kinda hinting at it, a lot.

[TheCorpulent1]

He seems to be Geo-Force's counterpart on the Titans. He's there, working alongside the team, but he's not "officially" a "member" of "the" "team." :o

[Noir]

So, Ted Kord is coming back.

[SouLeSS]

Says who

[Noir]

All new Booster Gold.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think that'll work out for Booster.

[SouLeSS]

My store was sold out on wednesday, and I didn't pick it up last week or the week before, whenever it came out. :(

[Noir]

I don't think that'll work out for Booster.It was Boosters idea, Rip Hunter is asking him to help protect the Multiverse, in exchange Rip has got to help save Ted. At the end of the first issue there was a preview of whats coming and it showed Booster, Dan Garriet, Jaime, and Rip arrive moments before Maxwell Lord shoots Ted.

[TheCorpulent1]

I know, I'm reading Booster Gold. I just don't think he'll actually manage to get Ted back.

[Noir]

Oh. Yeah.. If he saves Ted then he'll create a paradox as WW will not kill Max, BrotherEye will not execute code "KingIsDead" and the the whole Crisis will be averted and in the process destroy the multiverse again, and erase the following year and a half of continuity..

Hell I think I just solved "final Crisis"

[Hush]

Well certain events would change but Maxwell Lord Has to die sometime so KingIsDead will still activate correct?

[Noir]

Yes, he would.. but if he dies of natural causes then it'd take atleast a decade.. Plus, I was under the impression that Lord was a cyborg.

[UltimateJustin]

This title could be DC's Ultimate Spider-man if it was marketed correctly.

actually it reads a lot like early USM, and certainly surpasses it now.
Early USM was dope, until about #30-35. After that its all but unreadable to me. I'll check out BB based on what YOU said. YOU made a difference!

[Kitsune]

Oh. Yeah.. If he saves Ted then he'll create a paradox as WW will not kill Max, BrotherEye will not execute code "KingIsDead" and the the whole Crisis will be averted and in the process destroy the multiverse again, and erase the following year and a half of continuity..

Hell I think I just solved "final Crisis"

They just need to leave a Ted clone dead on the floor, and problem solved. If they could pull Booster out and replace him with his own corpse. That shouldn't be too much of a problem.

[Varient]

Latest issue (just read it) Had me scratching my head.

So The rings don't share information like I thought?

The Scarab CAN be safely removed?

That "Thing" is how Jamie "Should" look?


Eeeeeewwwwwww.

[TheCorpulent1]

Peacemaker didn't look all that safe to me after removing his scarab. Looked like he was dying, in fact.

Which rings are you talking about? The Sinestro rings? I don't think we've had any indication that they share information the way GL rings do. Their primary function is to instill fear, which probably means blowing **** up, whereas the GL rings' primary function is to protect others, which often requires information gathering on potential threats.

Or maybe the scarab was just too dumb to ask its Sinestro ring anything.

I missed Traci Thirteen last issue, but otherwise it was good stuff.

[Varient]

Peacemaker didn't look all that safe to me after removing his scarab. Looked like he was dying, in fact.

Which rings are you talking about? The Sinestro rings? I don't think we've had any indication that they share information the way GL rings do. Their primary function is to instill fear, which probably means blowing **** up, whereas the GL rings' primary function is to protect others, which often requires information gathering on potential threats.

Or maybe the scarab was just too dumb to ask its Sinestro ring anything.

I missed Traci Thirteen last issue, but otherwise it was good stuff.

I meant the GL rings,.. BB couldn't catch a break and wasted time fighting a GL that should know through her ring the Earths current Blue Beetle is "OK".

Gardner determined that Jamie was "OKAY",....

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, well, I don't know how much information sharing the rings actually do. Did Guy log that information somewhere? Did that GL in BB think to ask if there were any specific Reach agents who are nice guys? Having the information and actually using the information are two different things.

[Varient]

Oh, well, I don't know how much information sharing the rings actually do. Did Guy log that information somewhere? Did that GL in BB think to ask if there were any specific Reach agents who are nice guys? Having the information and actually using the information are two different things.

Point.
Guy gardner does not strike me as the type to make too many reports,...

[TheCorpulent1]

The rings still recognize all Reach agents as "monsters," according to Brik, too. It doesn't seem to distinguish the identities of each agent--probably because their scarabs are supposed to overwrite their minds and force them to work as agents of the Reach. So unless Guy made the report, it was uploaded into the rings' database, and Brik actually asked the ring about Jaime, it wouldn't have told her that he's a good guy.

[Varient]

The rings still recognize all Reach agents as "monsters," according to Brik, too. It doesn't seem to distinguish the identities of each agent--probably because their scarabs are supposed to overwrite their minds and force them to work as agents of the Reach. So unless Guy made the report, it was uploaded into the rings' database, and Brik actually asked the ring about Jaime, it wouldn't have told her that he's a good guy.


That makes sense.

I also found it kinda hard to believe that the GL didn't do a better job,...

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, Brik was kind of a pussy. "Oh noez, Reach-tech and a Sinestro ring??? However will I cope?!" I don't know, by not sucking?

Although, to be fair, it seems the Reach's tech was specifically designed to be tough for GLs to handle, since the scarabs' bosses are age-old enemies of the Corps' bosses. A quick search tells me Brik was only created in 1991, as well, so she's not exactly a really experienced veteran.

[Dragmire]

Yeah, Brik was kind of a pussy.

Is that some kind of crack on her gender? If so... I approve.

[TheCorpulent1]

Is that some kind of crack on her gender? If so... I approve.
Intentional? If so, I approve as well.

[Dragmire]

I approve of your approval.

[Varient]

This is just getting Better.
:oldrazz:

The Blue Beetle versus the Spector,.. with the Scarab TRYING to Protect Jamie and suggesting bigger and bigger WMD,.. I'm LOVING THIS!

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I liked the dynamic between them last issue. The scarab's got a personality of its own without our even being able to read what it says. That's impressive storytelling. :)

[Arkady Rossovich]

How is the comic?

[BrianWilly]

Awesome. Get it.

[TheCorpulent1]

For seriously, yo. Blue Beetle's great.

[Dragmire]

For seriously, yo. Blue Beetle's great.

For serious = FAIL

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm clearly too street for you. :o

[Darthphere]

Seriously, we need someone to change the title on this thread, either way:

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/April08/blue_cv26_solicit.jpg

BLUE BEETLE #26
Written by Jai Nitz
Art by Mike Norton & Trevor Scott
Cover by Zach Howard
A special extra-sized Spanish-language issue, with the English script as bonus material! Blue Beetle takes Traci 13 to his family reunion, and having your girlfriend meet your family can be tough, especially when she's the only guest who doesn't speak Spanish! To make matters worse, two people have uncovered Jaime's secret identity — and one of them is the Parasite!
On sale April 30 • 40 pg, FC, $3.50 US

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Good thing I know Spanish. :up:

[yenaled]

Well ... :(

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, that's gonna suck.

[Darthphere]

You guys got time, it's time to download those Spanish audio tapes.

[TheCorpulent1]

I refuse to learn Spanish.

[Darthphere]

It's funny, some people refuse to learn English.

[TheCorpulent1]

They should enjoy this Blue Beetle issue, then.

[Darthphere]

Indeed, and hate the following one.

[yenaled]

I don't refuse to learn Spanish - just never been taught it. I believe most American schools teach it but here we learn French and German.

Still seems like a silly gimmick to me.

[Darthphere]

I don't refuse to learn Spanish - just never been taught it. I believe most American schools teach it but here we learn French and German.

Still seems like a silly gimmick to me.

It's supposed to be a perspective thing. You're supposed to be Traci, not knowing Spanish at this reunion. Yes, you, are a teenage girl.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I know some Spanish, so I'll probably be able to follow along without looking at the script too often. But it's the principle of the thing. Why alienate the vast majority of your readership by printing the actual Spanish? Just put those brackets with a "*Translated from Spanish" footnote like every other big 2 comic has ever done when dealing with other languages.

[Darthphere]

Because it's a gimmick.

[yenaled]

It's supposed to be a perspective thing. You're supposed to be Traci, not knowing Spanish at this reunion. Yes, you, are a teenage girl.

Sexy. This issue has suddenly got better.

[TheCorpulent1]

Because it's a gimmick.
Like your face. :cmad:

[BrianWilly]

Heh, I like it. I don't read Spanish either, who cares? I doubt they just forgot to take that into consideration. It'll probably be easy to follow along even just with the pickchures.

[TheCorpulent1]

I doubt it'll be that easy to follow if they decided they needed to include the English script at the end. I get what they're trying to do, too. I just think it's unnecessary. I've been in situations like what Traci'll be in. It sucked then and I'm not really that interested in reliving it vicariously through Traci. I like to know what the hell people are saying.

[BrianWilly]

It's a comic book, not an interrogation. I can't imagine it would bother you that much.

[PWN3R]

Sweet I know Spanish.

Sounds like it'll be fun. Traci 13:heart:

[Harlekin]

Sounds like a fun. I really need to pick up the trades for this.

[Darthphere]

Heh, I like it. I don't read Spanish either, who cares? I doubt they just forgot to take that into consideration. It'll probably be easy to follow along even just with the pickchures.

Sweet I know Spanish.

Sounds like it'll be fun. Traci 13:heart:

Sounds like a fun. I really need to pick up the trades for this.

I doubt it'll be that easy to follow if they decided they needed to include the English script at the end. I get what they're trying to do, too. I just think it's unnecessary. I've been in situations like what Traci'll be in. It sucked then and I'm not really that interested in reliving it vicariously through Traci. I like to know what the hell people are saying.

It's official, Corp hates fun.

[WompuM]

Mis pantalones estan en feugo. That's all I got.

[Assassin]

i'm dropping this issue. **** that ****. i hated all the spanglish in this already, but its realistic because thats how "they" talk. but i'm done with this. i'm gonna miss it but **** spanish. I really hate how were making it easy for spanish ppl but every one else **** you, learn english.

[Darthphere]

i'm dropping this issue. **** that ****. i hated all the spanglish in this already, but its realistic because thats how "they" talk. but i'm done with this. i'm gonna miss it but **** spanish. I really hate how were making it easy for spanish ppl but every one else **** you, learn english.

I really doubt that DC Comics/Warner Bros. is spinning this as some Pro-Immigration thing. It's like reading Black Panther and saying, "**** this ****, I'm tired of black people and them always being in Africa, **** you!"

[BrianWilly]

I can't believe people are actually offended by this. Seriously, it blows my mind.

[WompuM]

Well, I was offended by all the wookie talk in the star wars holiday special...

[PWN3R]

i'm dropping this issue. **** that ****. i hated all the spanglish in this already, but its realistic because thats how "they" talk. but i'm done with this. i'm gonna miss it but **** spanish. I really hate how were making it easy for spanish ppl but every one else **** you, learn english.

Wow...so wait, let me get this right. You're going to drop this book, because of a solicit that claims the issue will be in Spanish? Mind you, the book has been fantastic so far? One little solicit?

You. have. yet. to. even. read. the. issue.
omg


You really have earned the right to your nickname. :up:

[Darthphere]

I can't believe people are actually offended by this. Seriously, it blows my mind.

Well only AssAss seems to be genuinely offended, Corp just seems like he's lazy and against fun.

[fifthfiend]

I can't believe people are actually offended by this. Seriously, it blows my mind.

You must not listen to much right-wing talk radio.

[BrianWilly]

Well, I live in California.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well only AssAss seems to be genuinely offended, Corp just seems like he's lazy and against fun.
Of course I'm lazy. Besides, I moved away from Miami partly to get away from all the goddamn Spanish everywhere. It's like nails on a chalkboard to my ears. :o

But whatev, I'm still gonna read the issue. I'm no Ass.

[fifthfiend]

Well, I live in California.

If you live in SoCal you should be pretty well acquainted with the mindset; there's no greater bastion of reflexive hatred towards brown-skinned foreigners. I used to hear this hating-spanish-speakers-for-speaking-spanish **** in the fourth grade from kids who picked it up from their angry Mexican-hating parents.