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Union Jack
03-30-2006, 01:50 PM
Does anyone know when or if the more recent he-man and the masters of the universe will be coming onto DVD??
It was a cracking cartoon..up there with JLU and the newer ninja turtles cartoon.
Savage
03-31-2006, 01:21 AM
I'm bumping this cause I want to know too. It's BS that Transformers stuck around to become craptacular while this was cancelled. This show was even more awesome than the original imo. A very difficult feat considering nostalgia's sake.
TheVileOne
03-31-2006, 01:29 AM
The new Masters of the Universe series was pretty good actually. Well it wasn't perfect, but I felt it was an improvement over the original series.
We get a better and more fleshed out origin for Skeletor. Cringer does NOT talk. Some high quality animation.
I'd like to see this on DVD a lot more than the original.
Also, what about the series from the late 80's early 90's? Anyone remember that one. I think it was called the new adventures of He-Man.
Savage
03-31-2006, 01:43 AM
Woah. Just looked it up. Suprised I missed that one. :confused: Doooesn't look too good though.
WildChild
03-31-2006, 03:25 AM
Yeah this show was pretty good.
3dman27
03-31-2006, 06:28 AM
it was i wonder why cartoon network stopped airing it it didn't pass the 52 episode limit
Union Jack
03-31-2006, 11:32 AM
cos cartoon network are a set of idiots..no more justice league,no more he-man.."i know let put loads of japanese crap on..its cheap and the gullible idiots out there will lap it up!"
morons.
Jason Blood
03-31-2006, 11:52 AM
I kinda didn't like it because every episode was the same
Skeletor uses something to try to do the same damn thing again
I think it was getting better toward the end though
TheVileOne
03-31-2006, 02:55 PM
Well season 2 it was the snake people, not just Skeletor.
Anubis
03-31-2006, 02:59 PM
Yeah, I would love to see a DVD for this series. I loved it. They were about to bring in Hordac and then boom, canceled. Total bull**t man.
Prognosticator
03-31-2006, 03:02 PM
No, this show was the SH@%! It was freaking awesome and caused me to sit up straight and recognize CN for the first time, even though i'd always been a cartoon fan. I love the original but THIS version was 4 STAR animation! This was, and it's only my opinion, one of the top three best animated shows in terms of storyboard animation, period. For all time. It's a damn shame that it only lasted a season and a half! Those @$$wipes at Cartoon Network don't know sh#%$ when it comes to programming what viewers want to see!!
deathshead2
03-31-2006, 03:06 PM
I kinda didn't like it because every episode was the same
Skeletor uses something to try to do the same damn thing again
I think it was getting better toward the end thoughUm every show does the same thing every episode.
3dman27
04-01-2006, 06:00 AM
it should be on dvd
ultimatefan
04-01-2006, 06:53 AM
It had great animation, but the writing reminded me too much of the original, and that show was from the eighties, before Batman TAS or Superman TAS or Justice League. Too preachy, to the point of keeping the morality speech in the end of the episodes.
The Question
04-01-2006, 09:48 AM
There wasn't a morality speach at the end of every episode. At least, not to my recolection. Anyway, the show was pretty good. Skelitor was actually a pretty well written villain, and the characters had a bit more depth. Also, Prince Adam actually looked different from He-Man, so that was a plus.
Savage
04-01-2006, 08:49 PM
Also, Prince Adam actually looked different from He-Man, so that was a plus.
Oh yeah. :up: It was even worse than the Superman+Glasses=Clark Kent thing. It was He-man+Shirt=Adam.
The Question
04-01-2006, 08:52 PM
I know. I mean, with Superman, you can make the arguement that the glasses are an aspect of how he presents himself in both settings to make himself seem different in each (even though that doesn't explain how a reporter like Perry wouldn't figure it out). With He-Man? Taking off your shirt is not a good secret identity.
Savage
04-01-2006, 08:56 PM
What got me was when He-man showed up they'd be all like "Where did princed Adam go?!" and even as a kid I was just staring at them like "...are you f**king retarded?:confused: " I mean god forbid someone walks in on the guy taking a shower. His cover would be blown.
The Question
04-01-2006, 09:02 PM
Exactly. The new series handeled it much better, I thought. It could still be a tad hoaky at times, but I thought overall it was a bit more serious.
Anubis
04-01-2006, 09:08 PM
I loved what they did with Zodiac in that show. He already had a cool look, but they took it one step further.
The Question
04-01-2006, 09:18 PM
Which one was Zodiac? I can't recall.
Anubis
04-01-2006, 09:24 PM
Sorry, meant Zodak
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/zodak-1.jpg
The Question
04-01-2006, 09:36 PM
Oh yeah. The wizard dude. He was cool.
Anubis
04-01-2006, 09:52 PM
Liked what they did with Sy-Klone too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/sy-klone-1.jpg
deathshead2
04-01-2006, 10:41 PM
I liked robato. Oh how I wish the show stayed on we were about to see hordak and im sure there would have been a cool fight between him and skelitor.
Union Jack
04-02-2006, 10:48 AM
yep he-man was ace,i liked how stratos sounded like sean connery too...master stroke that one!!
I hope they do get on with a new he-man movie..the first one wasnt very good..and you never saw prince adam in it too..
if they made a movie like the new cartoon it'd be brilliant.
I too was hoping to see hordak in the series..and maybe even she-ra too..but again..it was too good to watch so they pulled it for some power ranger style crap.
Anubis
04-02-2006, 11:45 AM
I'm still pissed that they canceld Samurai Jack without giving it a proper ending.
Savage
04-02-2006, 11:53 AM
OH YEAH! Man does that piss me off! :mad: Maybe we'll get one on the DVDs. Like how the Clerks cartoon DVD had 4 extra episodes that weren't aired.
Anubis
04-02-2006, 12:00 PM
I don't even think they're gonna bother bringing out season three of the SJ DVDs either. Season two was out like what? Last year? Two years ago? lazy bastards.
TheVileOne
04-02-2006, 12:42 PM
What about Orko, did you guys still hate Orko this time around?
Anubis
04-02-2006, 12:58 PM
I've never had an extreem opinion of the character on one side or the other. He's always been just.....there. To tell you the truth I forgot he even exsisted until you mentioned him.
LongDong
05-02-2006, 12:35 PM
cos cartoon network are a set of idiots..no more justice league,no more he-man.."i know let put loads of japanese crap on..its cheap and the gullible idiots out there will lap it up!"
morons.
That has nothing to dow ith CN and everything to do with the makers of that show just wanting to move on.
CN rules, where else can you watch reruns of Futurama and so many other classic toons. Point the finger and Timm and company, they are really to blame.
DarKush
05-02-2006, 01:12 PM
I didn't want to like this show. I didn't think that He-Man could be redone successfully. But after watching it, I must admit that it was a worthy successor of the original. It's a shame that this show got cancelled. Especially with all these sucky new Transformer cartoons popping out, not to mention the terrible new Cartoon Network cartoons.
Warhammer
05-02-2006, 03:58 PM
That has nothing to dow ith CN and everything to do with the makers of that show just wanting to move on.
CN rules, where else can you watch reruns of Futurama and so many other classic toons. Point the finger and Timm and company, they are really to blame.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/Aftermath6/rickjames4tn1fp.jpg
deathshead2
05-02-2006, 04:18 PM
That has nothing to dow ith CN and everything to do with the makers of that show just wanting to move on.
CN rules, where else can you watch reruns of Futurama and so many other classic toons. Point the finger and Timm and company, they are really to blame.http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/4923/spaceyluthor9kq.th.jpg (http://img282.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spaceyluthor9kq.jpg)
There are no classic cartoons anymore on CN only boomerrang.
Warhammer
05-02-2006, 04:43 PM
^Truth.
LondDong is dead wrong.
Prognosticator
10-19-2006, 12:25 PM
So did this version ever get a release or not?
Because I saw a "Sherah" box set at Wal-Mart yesterday and that is f'ing ridiculous!
LongDong
10-19-2006, 02:12 PM
^Truth.
LondDong is dead wrong.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Timm and company decided to stop making the show, it had NOTHING to do with the Network. Common sense would tell you that much, why would one of their highest rated shows be cancelled by them? Makes no sense. Duh
here is a quote from Bruce Timm on the subject
From Bruce Timm
Allow me to explain, lest you judge me a traitor and stop reading. In your opinion, which would be better: for the DCAU to end its run at the top of its' game, or peter out in mediocrity a few seasons from now? Think about it—the critical acclaim about how good Unlimited is rivals the acclaim that the original Batman: the Animated Series received. Wizard Magazine recently declared that Unlimited was the best animated show on the air, and it seems you can't swing an Nth metal mace without hitting an article that just gushes with praise for the show. With a run that spans fourteen years, three networks, 384 episodes (including Static Shock and The Zeta Project), 5 movies, 1 animated short, 30 web-exclusive cartoons, and roughly twenty minutes of animation for a Sega videogame; maybe it is time to close the book. After all, how do we want to remember the DCAU? Do we want to look back and think, "Wow, they were really at the top of their game!" or, "Damn, they should have quit two seasons ago while they were ahead!"? Actually, I can think of a few posters on Toon Zone who would have been happy to just let "Epilogue" be the final word on the DCAU.
Another one "The production crew of Justice League Unlimited was even getting worn out, and producer Bruce Timm commented on this topic in this forum ("Honestly, I'm almost relieved JLU is over (for the moment anyway). It was frankly an EXHAUSTING show to do, hard to write, extremely labor-intensive to produce, this season and the last especially..."). "
Before you start spouting your opinions and attacking others for being "wrong" you should do a bit of research. You will look less imbecilic in the end.
3dman27
10-19-2006, 02:56 PM
put this on dvd STAT
Prognosticator
10-19-2006, 04:30 PM
^^...(FromLongDong(Timm)), No list should include "Static Shock" & "The Zeta Project"!
Knives122
10-19-2006, 05:38 PM
Well Zeta only had like what? 2/3 cross-over eps? So you can't really count it.
I agree with Timm somewhat, I was happy with Epilogue(I consider it to be the best DCAU ep. ever) being the "final word" and I was happy with them getting one more season to give us Darkseid one final time(even if it wasn't on scale with Starcrossed). It was a great show but eventually it had to end.
I mean c'mon season 5 was pretty much a homage to everything that happened in the DCAU, we pretty much got to see everything again(with the exception of a couple of things), we even got two marvel-like sequences at the end of the show, and the perfect send off. Isn't that enough?
Well that's my small rant on JLU I'll do SJ and HM later :p
Dr. Fate
10-19-2006, 06:52 PM
Fun fact - the 2002 Prince Adam/He-Man was voiced by Cam Clarke, who, back in 1987, gave us the voice of Leonardo on the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles TV series. Funny how you never know where life can take a man, eh? Meanwhile, Gary "Optimus Primal" Chalk, who did the voice of Man-At-Arms in the 2002 series, was the voice of He-Man in the crappy "New Adventures of He-Man" from 1989.
The only thing I disliked about 2002 He-Man was that they used the nasal voice for Skeletor. It made him too comical. They should have gone with the raspy baritone like Frank Langella did in the movie from 1987. But I liked the rest of the show as a whole. I'll never forgive CN for cancelling it before they could finish their storylines.
TheVileOne
10-19-2006, 09:45 PM
Frank Langella really was perfect as Skeletor and Bryan Singer agrees with me.
I really want a DVD set of this entire series. It's a criminally underrated show. And I'll say it's the best Masters Of The Universe series ever.
All these cartoons getting remade these days, and the new MOTU did a good job of it.
And all this really happened because 4 Horsemen and Mattel were revamping and resurrecting the action figure line, so the series was a result of that. Just like the first time around.
3dman27
10-20-2006, 05:35 AM
you mean creating the series or cancelling it?:bat:
Ironman24
10-20-2006, 08:09 AM
I loved the New He-Man series, the animation was fantastic, they updated all the heros and villians, the villians weren't a bunch of idiots, they could hold there own againts the hero's, I was very disappointed the series was cancelled, I had tapped the entire 1st season, wasn't so big on the second season, but still enjoyed the series as a whole.
Substance D
10-20-2006, 08:43 AM
Nah, the show sucked. The voices were lame, and the animation was choppy and cheap. The only good thing about it was Teela. The show had potential but quickly became repititious and childish.
Prognosticator
10-20-2006, 09:04 AM
Fun fact - the 2002 Prince Adam/He-Man was voiced by Cam Clarke, who, back in 1987, gave us the voice of Leonardo on the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles TV series. Funny how you never know where life can take a man, eh? Meanwhile, Gary "Optimus Primal" Chalk, who did the voice of Man-At-Arms in the 2002 series, was the voice of He-Man in the crappy "New Adventures of He-Man" from 1989.
The only thing I disliked about 2002 He-Man was that they used the nasal voice for Skeletor. It made him too comical. They should have gone with the raspy baritone like Frank Langella did in the movie from 1987. But I liked the rest of the show as a whole. I'll never forgive CN for cancelling it before they could finish their storylines.
I think every bit of that show was PERFECT! It was larger than life even for a cartoon! I do remember recognizing those V.O.'s from their original roles...."hey, if I'm doin' a cartoon, I'd want nothing but the best involved too!"
Prognosticator
10-20-2006, 09:06 AM
If bringing the show back meant buying the toys, then I'd have to say I'd go out right now (during my lunch break) and buy every one of them!
Abomination
10-20-2006, 09:16 AM
Stinkor was the bomb. It was cool to see him animated.
3dman27
10-20-2006, 02:54 PM
yep he-man was ace,i liked how stratos sounded like sean connery too...master stroke that one!!
.
yes it was:ninja:
ObakeTora
10-21-2006, 02:55 AM
I have never agreed with anything more then how I agree with this thread. You know growing up in the 80`s I was more into Voltron, Mighty Orbots and Robotech, I never w\once purchased a He-man toy, because I thought it was too gay. The second incarnation of He man only piqued my interest mildly, but after this version of He-man, every episode I couldnt stop saying damn. Yea, Cartoon Network has to stop trading their values for crack, He-man was an excellent show, I only pray my beloved Thundercats get the same treatment the next go around.
3dman27
10-21-2006, 05:27 AM
Yea, Cartoon Network has to stop trading their values for crack, He-man was an excellent show, I only pray my beloved Thundercats get the same treatment the next go around.
true:ninja:
I thought this was a very good revival show, and still a bit disappointed it was cancelled prematurely.
I belive Vile mentioned Four Horsemen, here's some sculpts for new figures and busts based on the original series' designs, as well as some updated designs (He-Man, Grizzlor, and on their homepage Roboto): http://thesculptorscorner.com/Four_Horsemen.htm
Their homepage with even more links to photographs:
http://www.fourhorsemen.biz/gallery/motu/index.htm
Would have killed for Skeletor, Hordak, Trap-Jaw, Ram-Man, Clawster, Snout Spout, Stinkor and Too Bad.
Now, if they only made a sculpt for Mosquitor and I'd be set.
Prognosticator
10-23-2006, 01:28 PM
Wikipedia says under the "Masters of the Universe" section that the idea was in place to incorporate "She-Ra" into the third season of the He-Man update :( !!! :angry: I really would have liked to see their revision of that story included.
3dman27
10-23-2006, 03:46 PM
Wikipedia says under the "Masters of the Universe" section that the idea was in place to incorporate "She-Ra" into the third season of the He-Man update :( !!! :angry: I really would have liked to see their revision of that story included.
as would i:ninja:
Dr. Fate
10-23-2006, 08:10 PM
Wikipedia says under the "Masters of the Universe" section that the idea was in place to incorporate "She-Ra" into the third season of the He-Man update :( !!! :angry: I really would have liked to see their revision of that story included.
Seeing She-Ra in the new series would have rocked. Damn you CW!
Brian Braddock
10-24-2006, 10:36 AM
Such a shame the series wasnt allowed to continue, as a fan of the original as a kid in the 80's, I watched the new cartoon with great interest and enjoyed it immensly. I was suprised how much depth and fleshing out of the characters had been undertaken.
I saw most of the 2 season's, but unfortunatly missed a few of 'em -Did Fakor ever make an appearance? Anyone?
I can only hope someone wises up and gives the go-ahead for another season - the above post about introducing She-ra does intrigue me. The whole Snake-Men storyline was interesting but I'd look forward to seeing more Hordak if only for the the hope that He-Man goes back to his original costume (don't mess with a classic - really wasnt a fan of his 2nd season snake armor thingy!).
I also hope that if anyone decided to update any other of my favorite cartoons from my childhood (Thundercats, Centaurions, Visionaries, Bionic Six, Pole Position etc), they look at the example of MofU (i.e, keep it faithful to the original - don't change it so much it's unrecognisable from it's source).
Here's hoping.
Substance D
10-24-2006, 10:44 AM
Such a shame the series wasnt allowed to continue, as a fan of the original as a kid in the 80's, I watched the new cartoon with great interest and enjoyed it immensly. I was suprised how much depth and fleshing out of the characters had been undertaken.
I saw most of the 2 season's, but unfortunatly missed a few of 'em -Did Fakor ever make an appearance? Anyone?
I can only hope someone wises up and gives the go-ahead for another season - the above post about introducing She-ra does intrigue me. The whole Snake-Men storyline was interesting but I'd look forward to seeing more Hordak if only for the the hope that He-Man goes back to his original costume (don't mess with a classic - really wasnt a fan of his 2nd season snake armor thingy!).
I also hope that if anyone decided to update any other of my favorite cartoons from my childhood (Thundercats, Centaurions, Visionaries, Bionic Six, Pole Position etc), they look at the example of MofU (i.e, keep it faithful to the original - don't change it so much it's unrecognisable from it's source).
Here's hoping.
well, i hope you die.
Prognosticator
10-24-2006, 10:51 AM
We GOTTA get the word back out! Get these eps on DVD!!! Get the word rolling...get CN to start the show up again! Get the third season rolling and go out on a high note1!! What are we waiting for guys?!?!?!
.... :dry: :( :(
Brian Braddock
10-24-2006, 10:51 AM
I was also hoping you wouldnt be such a prick, but no luck with that one.
Seriously, what did I do to deserve that?
Brian Braddock
10-24-2006, 10:52 AM
I was also hoping you wouldnt be such a prick, but no luck with that one.
Seriously, what did I do to deserve that?
Edit:- My comments are directed to Substance D.
3dman27
10-24-2006, 10:58 AM
We GOTTA get the word back out! Get these eps on DVD!!! Get the word rolling...get CN to start the show up again! Get the third season rolling and go out on a high note1!! What are we waiting for guys?!?!?!
(
how do we go about doing that?:ninja:
Prognosticator
10-24-2006, 11:21 AM
I was also hoping you wouldnt be such a prick, but no luck with that one.
Seriously, what did I do to deserve that?
If you were refering to what I said, it wasn't against anything anyone in particular said.
I was being both serious and joking.
I mean, the geek in me would TOTALLY rally to put this masterpiece in motion, but the sarcasm in me knows it'll NEVER happen with CartoonNetwork because they're a bunch of cheap hacks!
Brian Braddock
10-24-2006, 11:25 AM
If you were refering to what I said, it wasn't against anything anyone in particular said.
I was being both serious and joking.
I mean, the geek in me would TOTALLY rally to put this masterpiece in motion, but the sarcasm in me knows it'll NEVER happen with CartoonNetwork because they're a bunch of cheap hacks!
>sigh<
take a look a couple of posts up - you'll see I was responding to Substance D for his uncalled for comment.
I made an edit post pointing out as much to avoid you thinking I was having a go at you.
Prognosticator
10-24-2006, 12:09 PM
^ No worries...except that we may never see a resolution to this incarnation of MOTU:(
Brian Braddock
10-24-2006, 12:19 PM
I know my friend - the fools - don't they realise we hunger for MOTU closure??!!!
I wonder if their attitude would change, should a new live action film materialise on the horizion?
Prognosticator
10-24-2006, 12:21 PM
i wonder if they even finished making the 13 episode season 2 arc about the snakemen b/c i KNOW they quit airing it after 6 or 7 episodes :( :cmad: :ninja:
LongDong
10-24-2006, 12:22 PM
well, i hope you die.
There is no reason to say that to someone.
Brian Braddock
10-24-2006, 12:25 PM
That I woulnt know as I did miss a few of 'em (the shedule for airing in the U.K. was forever being changed!!)..............
I just know that I wanna see all of 'em, dammit.
Prognosticator
10-24-2006, 12:33 PM
Dammit!!!
In addition to She-Ra coming into the fold of S3, "Hordak and The Evil Horde" were going to be the focus villains of S3 as well:( :cmad: :cmad:
...which would have brought the series FULL CIRCLE as Skeletor worshipped Hordak in his socery!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_the_Universe#He-Man_and_the_Masters_of_the_Universe_2002_toyline_a nd_cartoon_series
Prognosticator
10-24-2006, 12:35 PM
...so they made 39 episodes?!? That's WAY more than I remember!
"GIVE US THE DVD SET OH GREAT HORDAK!"
Brian Braddock
10-24-2006, 12:40 PM
#double post #
oops
Brian Braddock
10-24-2006, 12:40 PM
I know, me too - although I seem to recall some episodes continually being repeated, over and over again, in the U.K.
When you got a new episode that you'd never seen before it was a special event.
You know before when I said I missed a few episodes?
Why am I now getting the impression that I missed a helluva lot more than than I 1st thought? :o
God, I need a collected DVD edition more than ever.
Prognosticator
10-24-2006, 12:44 PM
Unfinished Third Season
In a Q&A session with the members of He-Man.Org [1], Ian Richter of Mattel, who was behind many of the storylines of the cartoon, revealed some details on what had been planned for the show. Had the series continued, the second half of season 2 was planned to have featured King Hiss being regenerated after his capture by the Masters, and a final showdown between himself and Skeletor, of which Skeletor would have emerged the victor. Skeletor was then to have used his creation Faker to trick the Eternians into thinking He-Man had turned against them, thus enabling him to overthrow Randor and conquer the kingdom for himself. the third season would have involved the takeover of Eternia by the much hyped arrival of Hordak and the Evil Horde, who would have been released from their prison by Evil-Lyn and overthrown Skeletor, thus spreading mayhem across Eternia, effectively making He-Man and the Masters wanted fugitives.[2]
Apparently the intention was for Skeletor, who owed his very life to Hordak, to have finally gained the power to overcome his own mentor by the end of the season. At some point, Man-At-Arms was to have been captured and turned permanently into a Snake Man (how long this change would have lasted has never been confirmed), Teela would have learned of her heritage, and She-Ra would have been introduced at some point- according to Ian Richter 'when the time was right'.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He-Man_and_the_Masters_of_the_Universe_%282002%29
I'M SO MAD AT THIS POINT I CAN"T STAND IT!!!!! :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:
...I'm going to have to take my lunch break now and cool off!!
superhero
10-24-2006, 01:03 PM
Their coming out with the new adventures of he -man vol 1 coming out on december 26.
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6529
Anubis
10-24-2006, 01:10 PM
Well, things are at least coming along. I'm sure they'll get to the last series eventually.
Prognosticator
10-24-2006, 02:28 PM
^But I want them to MAKE NEW EPISODES!!!!
"Well, Prog, it's not about what you want you dummy! It's about Toy Sales for Mattel!" -Anonymous
Dr. Fate
10-24-2006, 03:17 PM
Unfinished Third Season
In a Q&A session with the members of He-Man.Org [1], Ian Richter of Mattel, who was behind many of the storylines of the cartoon, revealed some details on what had been planned for the show. Had the series continued, the second half of season 2 was planned to have featured King Hiss being regenerated after his capture by the Masters, and a final showdown between himself and Skeletor, of which Skeletor would have emerged the victor. Skeletor was then to have used his creation Faker to trick the Eternians into thinking He-Man had turned against them, thus enabling him to overthrow Randor and conquer the kingdom for himself. the third season would have involved the takeover of Eternia by the much hyped arrival of Hordak and the Evil Horde, who would have been released from their prison by Evil-Lyn and overthrown Skeletor, thus spreading mayhem across Eternia, effectively making He-Man and the Masters wanted fugitives.[2]
Apparently the intention was for Skeletor, who owed his very life to Hordak, to have finally gained the power to overcome his own mentor by the end of the season. At some point, Man-At-Arms was to have been captured and turned permanently into a Snake Man (how long this change would have lasted has never been confirmed), Teela would have learned of her heritage, and She-Ra would have been introduced at some point- according to Ian Richter 'when the time was right'.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He-Man_and_the_Masters_of_the_Universe_%282002%29
I'M SO MAD AT THIS POINT I CAN"T STAND IT!!!!! :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:
...I'm going to have to take my lunch break now and cool off!!
What a waste...
http://www.he-man.org/cartoon/motu/universe/he-man-1.jpg
"HE-MAN SMASH PUNY CARTOON NETWORK EXECUTIVES!!!"
deathshead2
10-24-2006, 03:22 PM
Really sad this show didn't last it was really good. But Mattel should have known better toy sales were going to suck if you just sell he-man figs and not any for the other characters. This and TMNT should be used to show people how to remake shows. If they remade thundercats I would like it to be handeled the same we as TMNT and he-man. Sadly transformers hasn't learned from them yet.
Kaboom
10-24-2006, 03:26 PM
Really sad this show didn't last it was really good. But Mattel should have known better toy sales were going to suck if you just sell he-man figs and not any for the other characters. This and TMNT should be used to show people how to remake shows. If they remade thundercats I would like it to be handeled the same we as TMNT and he-man. Sadly transformers hasn't learned from them yet.
i read a thread that they are remaking thundercats, but that theyre going to exist in present time, and be a punk rock band. i dont know if this is true, but it is what i read.
deathshead2
10-24-2006, 03:26 PM
It was found to not be true. Thankfully.
Primal Slayer
10-24-2006, 03:26 PM
It sucks that all these cartoons are based on toy sales and arent looked at for the ratings they get and the quality.
This was actually one of the better remakes that was brought around and it sucks that it got canned.
deathshead2
10-24-2006, 03:28 PM
Yeah it does that and its CN fault. So how many good shows has CN canned on purpose. Lets see Heman,JLU,Teen titans,and megas XLR. And what shows do they like to keep the really crappy cheap ones.
Prognosticator
10-24-2006, 03:47 PM
You know, the whole "ratings were low" excuse is total bull***t b/c they paired it with the updated half/anime Transformers cartoon, and TF ran four f'ing years!!!
They could have kept it going but it's like the wikipedia article says, Mattel's too big of a dumbass to know how to manufacture a line of toys! :cmad:
Prognosticator
10-24-2006, 03:57 PM
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Brian Braddock
10-25-2006, 04:28 AM
There is no reason to say that to someone.
Thanks LD :up: - I was a bit taken aback by Substance's comment tbh.
It was a tad uncalled for, I felt.
Prognosticator
10-25-2006, 09:01 AM
"i Have The Poweeeeeeer!!!"
Prognosticator
10-26-2006, 03:00 PM
...for those of you who read the wikipedia article on the relaunch of He-Man, they made mention of a short-lived but highly sought after series of comics.
Well, I was on my lunch break looking for party favors at Warehouse Music (nothing!) and I thought to go by a local comicbook store (where I found a He-Man action figure; SCORE!)...
And low and behold, I accidentally thought about it and found a pile of these "sought after" comic books!!!
I didn't have time to browse through them but I'm definitely going back very soon to scope them out!
deathshead2
10-26-2006, 03:03 PM
Its sought after didn't know that. I have the whole series all 3 minis plus the ongoing except for the last issue. Mostly because it was a crappy Orco story.
Prognosticator
10-26-2006, 03:50 PM
^ are the stories just duplicate stories of the cartoon only put to paper or are they original stories?
Arkady Rossovich
10-26-2006, 07:16 PM
I thought the He-Man cartoon was actually very good.Its a shame that it had to end so quickly,especially with what was planned.
3dman27
10-27-2006, 05:34 AM
I thought the He-Man cartoon was actually very good.Its a shame that it had to end so quickly,especially with what was planned.
well put i wish cartoon network would revive the show:ninja:
Dr. Fate
10-27-2006, 06:42 AM
...for those of you who read the wikipedia article on the relaunch of He-Man, they made mention of a short-lived but highly sought after series of comics.
Well, I was on my lunch break looking for party favors at Warehouse Music (nothing!) and I thought to go by a local comicbook store (where I found a He-Man action figure; SCORE!)...
And low and behold, I accidentally thought about it and found a pile of these "sought after" comic books!!!
I didn't have time to browse through them but I'm definitely going back very soon to scope them out!
I would kill to have those comic books... I actually downloaded a few random scans of covers and promotional art, but that's about it.
Substance D
10-27-2006, 07:08 AM
um... have they ever explained why he's called he-man?
Dr. Fate
10-27-2006, 08:20 AM
um... have they ever explained why he's called he-man?
Because "Superman" was already taken. :cwink:
Prognosticator
10-30-2006, 09:47 AM
I was going to give my "new" He-Man action figure to the winner of my Halloween costume party on Friday night...
And who ended up with it....ME (hehehehehehehhhhh:)
Prognosticator
10-31-2006, 11:01 AM
I tried to convince my girlfriend November was "He-Man appreication month", and she needed to buy me a box set of cartoons to watch all month long.
...She didn't believe me though:(
Dr. Fate
10-31-2006, 03:15 PM
I tried to convince my girlfriend November was "He-Man appreication month", and she needed to buy me a box set of cartoons to watch all month long.
...She didn't believe me though:(
Shame on your girlfriend.
Prognosticator
02-05-2007, 04:53 PM
So I did get that He-Man S1,Vol.1 box set for Christmas (not the newer version which doesn't exist yet).
After two or three weeks, I finally had the chance to sit down, relax, and zip through the first four episodes...
It was okay, but I was let down by the "tameness" of a cartoon that came out in 1983. :(
Instead of even being on par with say TF or GI Joe of the mid-80s, some of the He-Man plots/action felt more like Super Friends or Scooby-Doo.
He-Man wasn't exactly hacking things up with his sword as much as he was "lifting bad guys over his head, and throwing them straight upward to which they almost always landed in a puddle/pond of mud...??? Yeah.
And with a talking Crynger and mustaches on just about EVERYONE, it was a little sad.
deathshead2
02-05-2007, 04:56 PM
Oh and about those comics Prognosticator. All of them are new stories except for one mini that was a retelling of the snakeman story.
Dr. Fate
02-06-2007, 09:40 AM
Anyone remember "The New Adventures of He-Man" from 1989/1990? It had Gary Chalk (Optimus Primal, 2002 Man-At-Arms) as the voice of He-Man (but not the voice of Adam; Adam was voiced by Doug Parker) and Campbell Lane as Skeletor. He-Man and Skeletor were put on this other planet, Primus, in the distant future, where He-Man was asked to fight mutants, whom Skeletor allied himself with.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6a/NewAdventuresCartoon.jpg
Forgive me if this came up before, this thread's been gone so long I've forgotten most of what we were talking about.
Can't wait to have the 2002 series on DVD.
Prognosticator
02-06-2007, 09:42 AM
I like the way that "the new adventures..." font looks like the font for 'Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure'!?
Oh the 90s :whatever:
Brian Braddock
02-06-2007, 11:22 AM
Anyone remember "The New Adventures of He-Man" from 1989/1990? It had Gary Chalk (Optimus Primal, 2002 Man-At-Arms) as the voice of He-Man (but not the voice of Adam; Adam was voiced by Doug Parker) and Campbell Lane as Skeletor. He-Man and Skeletor were put on this other planet, Primus, in the distant future, where He-Man was asked to fight mutants, whom Skeletor allied himself with.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6a/NewAdventuresCartoon.jpg
Yup, I remember it - it was terrible. :oldrazz:
Dr. Fate
02-06-2007, 11:39 AM
Yup, I remember it - it was terrible. :oldrazz:
I'm inclined to agree. Gary Chalk threw out a decent voice for He-Man, and I've always supported the idea of giving He-Man pants (because pants always beats no pants) but the overall series just wasn't that good, even if the animation was more fluid than the Filmation series.
Brian Braddock
02-06-2007, 11:52 AM
I'm inclined to agree. Gary Chalk threw out a decent voice for He-Man, and I've always supported the idea of giving He-Man pants (because pants always beats no pants) but the overall series just wasn't that good, even if the animation was more fluid than the Filmation series.
I agree with everything you've said.
I hated that they seemed to change a lot of the elements that made the original cartoon as popular as it did. The animation was better but it really didnt do anything for me.
It just didn't look or feel like He-man.
It's been a while since I saw an episode (I admit I watched the into on Youtube a few months ago though - just for a bit of nostalgia) but I seem to remember a definite change in emphasis from magic to science and that He-man seemed very under-powered.
It was too much like 'Visionaries meets G.I. Joe' for my tastes, which is why the recent cartoon was so excellent.
It went back to the source, recognising all the qualities that made it so good in the 1st place.
Prognosticator
02-06-2007, 11:54 AM
Seriously (and I know this'll end badly) but how much would it cost to resurrect the exact show CN dumped in 03/04 and finish it out strong?
I mean, surely they could market it better, and I PROMISE it'd be watched...
**sighs at the lost cause**
Dr. Fate
02-06-2007, 11:01 PM
I agree with everything you've said.
I hated that they seemed to change a lot of the elements that made the original cartoon as popular as it did. The animation was better but it really didnt do anything for me.
It just didn't look or feel like He-man.
It's been a while since I saw an episode (I admit I watched the into on Youtube a few months ago though - just for a bit of nostalgia) but I seem to remember a definite change in emphasis from magic to science and that He-man seemed very under-powered.
It was too much like 'Visionaries meets G.I. Joe' for my tastes, which is why the recent cartoon was so excellent.
It went back to the source, recognising all the qualities that made it so good in the 1st place.
What you said, SB. Your italics sum it all up: It just didn't look or feel like He-Man. As Prognosticator said, the 2002 version was better because it went back to the basic idea and just expanded on it. They offered Laurence DiTillio, who worked on both the 1983 and 2002 versions to come and work on this one, but he declined because he didn't like how far removed it felt from the original source.
I hear they wanted a 2nd season, which would have taken He-Man & Skeletor back to Eternia, which would have been ruled by an evil Man-At-Arms, but ratings weren't strong enough to make this happen.
But I suppose it could have been much, much worse. They could have turned He-Man into a lanky teenager and put him in a rock band on Earth in Los Angeles with Orko as his manager, which is what rumor has it will be the case with a new Thundercats series due out later this year 2007 (the Thundercats as teens in a rock band on Earth with Snarf as the manager... I'm guessing Mumm-Ra will be an enemy rapper).
TheVileOne
02-07-2007, 12:25 AM
Really sad this show didn't last it was really good. But Mattel should have known better toy sales were going to suck if you just sell he-man figs and not any for the other characters. This and TMNT should be used to show people how to remake shows. If they remade thundercats I would like it to be handeled the same we as TMNT and he-man. Sadly transformers hasn't learned from them yet.
Sorry if I came back here late. But Mattel DID make a ton of characters in the new series other than He-man. And they all looked great too.
I thought it was a good revival of the series.
Prognosticator
02-07-2007, 03:45 PM
^ You could never find 'the others' though. I ALWAYS remember seeing nothing but duplicate versions of He-Man & Skeletor every time I checked the toy asles in Wal-Mart... they should have marketed stronger toward the Comic Shop/Novelty stores.
Dr. Fate
02-07-2007, 07:38 PM
Seriously (and I know this'll end badly) but how much would it cost to resurrect the exact show CN dumped in 03/04 and finish it out strong?
I mean, surely they could market it better, and I PROMISE it'd be watched...
**sighs at the lost cause**
If we started a web petition, do you think it could generate enough interest to get a direct to DVD feature finishing up the 2002 series storyline(s)?
Anubis
02-07-2007, 09:34 PM
Pfft, does that stuff ever work? :rolleyes:
Seriously, does it? Because I've never heard of it working and if it has, i'd totally sign it. :o
Savage
02-07-2007, 09:57 PM
...Well...Firefly got a movie 3 years after being cancelled...It bombed (spectacularly), but it got a movie.:woot:
TheVileOne
02-08-2007, 12:18 AM
^ You could never find 'the others' though. I ALWAYS remember seeing nothing but duplicate versions of He-Man & Skeletor every time I checked the toy asles in Wal-Mart... they should have marketed stronger toward the Comic Shop/Novelty stores.
I never had trouble finding the other characters at Wal-mart or Target.
It's irrelevant though they made TONS of other characters other than He-man.
Of course you will see most of them, since it's a He-man show and the lead hero and villain will always be stocked up and easy to find.
For example, GI JOE Sigma 6. Snake-Eyes and Duke are always the easiest characters to find for that series. However, Hasbro still makes a ton of other characters for the series other than Duke and Snake.
Prognosticator
02-08-2007, 09:09 AM
If we started a web petition, do you think it could generate enough interest to get a direct to DVD feature finishing up the 2002 series storyline(s)?
At the very LEAST they could cost effectively finish out the Season 2 & the proposed Season 3 in comic form; i.e. Buffy S8.
deathshead2
02-08-2007, 09:36 AM
I never had trouble finding the other characters at Wal-mart or Target.
It's irrelevant though they made TONS of other characters other than He-man.Its seems I didn't expalin myself better. Now I know they made other toys I won some of them. Im just saying pretty much everywhere you went they had 30 he-mans and 20 skelitors and maybe one other fig. Sense mattle shortpacked everyone else. But it seems your store was lucky and got everything. While 99% of the other stores were shortpacked.
Prognosticator
02-08-2007, 09:43 AM
Yeah, EVERY store I went to was He-Man/Skeletor 95% - Others 5% or less...
It was only AFTER the show was canned that I started seeing the really bad ones: Snakemen 40%, Snake He-Man/SnakeArmSkeletor 60% :(
deathshead2
02-08-2007, 09:47 AM
I didn't even see those. Heck the only he-man toys I won are tri-clops and trapjaw. I only got those at a con at the mall when someone told me KB got a shipment and to go there fast before they sell out. They cost me $10 each. Dumb overpriced KB toys im glad they went out of business.
Prognosticator
02-08-2007, 10:40 AM
^ that's why they went out!
whoever heard of marking up prices just to do it!?? :cmad:
(that doesn't include comic shops)
Dr. Fate
02-08-2007, 10:54 AM
At the very LEAST they could cost effectively finish out the Season 2 & the proposed Season 3 in comic form; i.e. Buffy S8.
I'd buy them.
Prognosticator
02-08-2007, 11:10 AM
Me Too! Maybe the "petition" should go toward something flexible like that?
Dr. Fate
02-08-2007, 02:03 PM
Me Too! Maybe the "petition" should go toward something flexible like that?
I say bring on the petition!
You know what else I would buy? Crossovers of He-Man meets Thundarr the Barbarian and He-Man meets Thundercats.
For that matter, how come no one's tried to relaunch Thundarr? Is Thundarr's fan base so small that no one cares about him?
Prognosticator
02-08-2007, 02:11 PM
^ Yes. *I don't even know who you're talking about*
Orko Is King
02-08-2007, 02:24 PM
I really miss this show. It's what got me into He-Man.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/HemanvsSkeletorPoster.jpg
Dr. Fate
02-08-2007, 02:30 PM
^ Yes. *I don't even know who you're talking about*
Thundarr the Barbarian was a show that aired in 1980, featuring a hero similar to He-Man, named Thundarr, a big brawny blonde guy with a magic sword, dubbed the sun sword. His companions included a sorceress named Ariel and a big wookie creature named Ookla. Instead of some alien world or distant past, they were stranded in a post apocalyptic world set after 1994, wandering around, fighting evil, that kind of thing.
I see so many other 1980s characters getting a resurgence in interest, to the point that they even get new shows based on them (Transformers, GI Joe, He-Man), or new comics (Thundercats) or both, so I'm just wondering out loud when or if Thundarr will ever get a shot at being remade or even set on DVD for that matter.
Sorry if my getting off topic broke the flow of things.
3dman27
02-09-2007, 05:39 AM
Thundarr the Barbarian was a show that aired in 1980, featuring a hero similar to He-Man, named Thundarr, a big brawny blonde guy with a magic sword, dubbed the sun sword. His companions included a sorceress named Ariel and a big wookie creature named Ookla. Instead of some alien world or distant past, they were stranded in a post apocalyptic world set after 1994, wandering around, fighting evil, that kind of thing.
I see so many other 1980s characters getting a resurgence in interest, to the point that they even get new shows based on them (Transformers, GI Joe, He-Man), or new comics (Thundercats) or both, so I'm just wondering out loud when or if Thundarr will ever get a shot at being remade or even set on DVD for that matter.
Sorry if my getting off topic broke the flow of things.
i hope thunadrr DOES get remade:ninja:
November Rain
02-09-2007, 06:03 AM
who would win in a fight between skeletor and mum'ra
3dman27
02-09-2007, 09:32 AM
I'd Say Ol Bandage Boy
Brian Braddock
02-09-2007, 10:33 AM
My guess is Mumm-Ra would own Skeletor a few times over.
Seriously.........
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/mummra.jpg
Dr. Fate
02-09-2007, 09:43 PM
My guess is Mumm-Ra would own Skeletor a few times over.
Seriously.........
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/mummra.jpg
Mumm-Ra's raspy rumbler voice alone would overpower the nasal toned Skeletor.
Union Jack
02-10-2007, 11:04 AM
nah i'd say skeletor would win myself.
in the recent he-man cartoon he is definatlry more badass,keldor was a powerful guy.
and the masteres of the universe would take the thundercats too!
Dr. Fate
02-10-2007, 11:58 AM
nah i'd say skeletor would win myself.
in the recent he-man cartoon he is definatlry more badass,keldor was a powerful guy.
and the masteres of the universe would take the thundercats too!
Heck, it wouldn't even have to be the entire Masters of the Universe hero line against the Thundercats. He-Man alone would easily overpower Lion-O and his fellow Thundercats. Why? Because He-Man's the most powerful man in the whole friggin' universe. Just watch He-Man tossing giant robots around in the He-Man/She-Ra Christmas special, and you'll see that the Thundercats, even the strongest ones (Lion-O and Panthro) wouldn't stand a chance even with their technology.
Prognosticator
02-12-2007, 09:22 AM
^ It's all in the catchphrase...
I HAVE THE POWEEEEEEER!
November Rain
02-12-2007, 10:01 AM
sword of o-mens vs sword of power?
3dman27
02-12-2007, 02:43 PM
sword of power i'd say
Dr. Fate
02-13-2007, 10:49 AM
sword of power i'd say
Damn straight.
Union Jack
02-14-2007, 11:01 AM
cool,i also prefer by the power of greyskull,i have the power to thunder,thunder,thunder,thundercats ho!! too....
and the sequence (from the original he-man cartoon) is better too.
Dr. Fate
02-14-2007, 01:03 PM
Gentlemen, I must ask you a question that's been bugging me lately -
http://members.fortunecity.de/motu2002/he-man2002/002_wie_alles_begann_ii_b/bilder/087.jpg He-Man circa 2002
http://galletas.blogia.com/upload/20060603072737-he-man.jpg Dolph Lundgren as He-Man circa 1987
Now tell me friends, am I crazy, or is there a slight resemblance between Dolph and the animated 2002 He-Man?
Prognosticator
02-14-2007, 01:24 PM
the 2002 is much more hansom and intelligent!
Dr. Fate
02-14-2007, 07:40 PM
the 2002 is much more hansom and intelligent!
A simple "no" would suffice.
Damn. The one picture is out.
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