My film for the 3rd film in the BEGINS series! BATMAN DUALITY!

[SeriousDuke]

Well folks, here it is... the conclusion to my take on the Begins series!

I hope you all enjoy!

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/3567/batmandualityfinal5no.png (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPUL9VGM)[/URL]
(1) [URL="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPUL9VGM"]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPUL9VGM (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPUL9VGM)
Instructions For Downloading:
-Go to the above site
-Look at the top right corner of the page
-Wait however many seconds it says to wait
-If a window pops up over that, click x
-Click on "Click Here To Download"
(2) http://www.vmix.com/viewVideo.php?ID=173791 (http://www.vmix.com/viewVideo.php?ID=173791) (STREAMING)

~SeriousDuke

PS: Let me know what you all think about the film!... and the new poster!

[SeriousDuke]

Also folks, here is the official Brutality poster, along with it's respective film!

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/4020/batmanbrutalityfinal0yb.png (http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=7203737)
[/URL]RUN TIME: 24:03 (24 minutes and 3 seconds)
(1) [URL="http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=7203737"]http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=7203737 (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/) (RECOMMENDED)
(2) http://youtube.com/watch?v=5eI4NbauQQU (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5eI4NbauQQU)

~SeriousDuke

[titan101]

Well folks, here it is... the conclusion to my take on the Begins series!

I hope you all enjoy!

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/3567/batmandualityfinal5no.png (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPUL9VGM)
(1) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPUL9VGM (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPUL9VGM)
Instructions For Downloading:
-Go to the above site
-Look at the top right corner of the page
-Wait however many seconds it says to wait
-If a window pops up over that, click x
-Click on "Click Here To Download"
(2) http://www.vmix.com/viewVideo.php?ID=173791 (http://www.vmix.com/viewVideo.php?ID=173791) (STREAMING)


~SeriousDuke

PS: Let me know what you all think about the film!... and the new poster!

THE AWESOME AWESOMENESS OF ALL AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[millennium movies]

:D thanks man! (for the poster that is)

[Ronny Shade]

How fast do you make these movies?!?

[SeriousDuke]

Well, I fimed both Brutality and Duality together. I started filming Brutality on November 3, 2005. I then started Duality the next day, November 4, 2005. So, it's not like I finished Brutality and THEN started on Duality... I was working ont hem both at the same time.

~SeriousDuke

[Golden-Age Hero]

Well, I fimed both Brutality and Duality together. I started filming Brutality on November 3, 2005. I then started Duality the next day, November 4, 2005. So, it's not like I finished Brutality and THEN started on Duality... I was working ont hem both at the same time.

~SeriousDuke

It shows. These films look like they were thrown together in a week. Terrible acting. Terrible costumes. Terrible dialogue. Terrible editing. What a waste of time. You get what you put into these kind of things. This one was messy, cheap, and rushed. The result: a bad film.

Next time put some money and time into it. Buy a better camera, wait a good several years until you're done with puberty, get some people who can act, and take a good six months in the writing stages alone.

Films take years not months. That's why this one is so bad. I'd like to say "nice try," but it really wasn't. Simply atrocious. :down :down

[Sentinel X]

It shows. These films look like they were thrown together in a week. Terrible acting. Terrible costumes. Terrible dialogue. Terrible editing. What a waste of time. You get what you put into these kind of things. This one was messy, cheap, and rushed. The result: a bad film.

Next time put some money and time into it. Buy a better camera, wait a good several years until you're done with puberty, get some people who can act, and take a good six months in the writing stages alone.

Films take years not months. That's why this one is so bad. I'd like to say "nice try," but it really wasn't. Simply atrocious. :down :downYou are such an *******....:mad: :down
1.Hes a teenager...look at M.Night Shamalan, or any other big movie director..their first movies were never good because they made the films with FRIENDS retard...not 4 star actors...:rolleyes:
2.Id like you to do a movie and see how well you do.Thats very 'classy' to just criticize someone like that...its not constructive criticism and you couldve kept it to yourself
3.If you look at the factors of budget, experiance, not having real actors in the film, ect...he did a good job.Look at the camera angles he tried to do and the script itself was great for an amateur director.You need to get a life, just because you do everything wrong doesnt mean you have to insult everyone else...thats pathetic

[WormyT]

It shows. These films look like they were thrown together in a week. Terrible acting. Terrible costumes. Terrible dialogue. Terrible editing. What a waste of time. You get what you put into these kind of things. This one was messy, cheap, and rushed. The result: a bad film.

Next time put some money and time into it. Buy a better camera, wait a good several years until you're done with puberty, get some people who can act, and take a good six months in the writing stages alone.

Films take years not months. That's why this one is so bad. I'd like to say "nice try," but it really wasn't. Simply atrocious. :down :down

One hollywood movie costs more than the budget for all UK movies made in one year so what do you expect, big crane pans, car chases, CG and big name actors.

:)
wT

[WormyT]

Well folks, here it is... the conclusion to my take on the Begins series!

I hope you all enjoy!

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/3567/batmandualityfinal5no.png (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPUL9VGM)[/URL]
(1) [URL="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPUL9VGM"]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPUL9VGM (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPUL9VGM)
Instructions For Downloading:
-Go to the above site
-Look at the top right corner of the page
-Wait however many seconds it says to wait
-If a window pops up over that, click x
-Click on "Click Here To Download"
(2) http://www.vmix.com/viewVideo.php?ID=173791 (http://www.vmix.com/viewVideo.php?ID=173791) (STREAMING)

~SeriousDuke

PS: Let me know what you all think about the film!... and the new poster!

Great Poster!

[Lobster Charlie]

Hey SeriousDuke,

Great job! I'll give you an A for a solid attempt. In my opinion, anybody that has a vision and goes through the work to complete their project wins major points in my book. Keep that ethic dude, it'll take you places.

That being said, let me offer some critique. I think for your next film, you should really scale it *down* to something that you can focus all of your attention on, and spend a lot of time fine-tuning and making it awesome. Pick a scenario that takes place maybe in just one room? Focus all of your creative energies into creating a mood for your story.

Imagine an interrogation scene between Batman and The Joker, with dramatic overhead lighting, and lots of fun dialogue between the two of them. All you would need is one room, decorated like an interrogation room, a good strong light (which will help wash out any slip-ups in makeup and costuming, not to mention allow for experimentation with dramatic effects), a table, and two chairs. And your costumes.

See what I mean? Pick an idea, a simple one, one that you know you can tell in about 5 minutes, using as few resources as possible (and as few people), and focus everything into telling that story in the best way possible. Draw out rough storyboards. Spend the time to create some decent-looking sets. Spend some time putting makeup on perfectly---hell, maybe you know someone in class that's really good at that, and you can have them over in exchange for free food or something. You're young, so you have nothing BUT time, correct? :)

All in all, I say hats off to you for putting your best foot forward. The idea is not to let the praise or the scorn get to you too much, and to always trust your gut, use a critical eye, think outside the box, and have FUN.

Best of luck to you, and keep it up!

-LC

p.s. another idea for a potential future film:

How Does The Joker Occupy Himself During Solitary Confinement? (one actor, one set, endless opportunities)

[Ronny Shade]

It shows. These films look like they were thrown together in a week. Terrible acting. Terrible costumes. Terrible dialogue. Terrible editing. What a waste of time. You get what you put into these kind of things. This one was messy, cheap, and rushed. The result: a bad film.

Next time put some money and time into it. Buy a better camera, wait a good several years until you're done with puberty, get some people who can act, and take a good six months in the writing stages alone.

Films take years not months. That's why this one is so bad. I'd like to say "nice try," but it really wasn't. Simply atrocious. :down :down
If you spend a few years on a Batman movie a.k.a. a movie YOU CAN'T MAKE MONEY FROM, that's kinda dumb.

[SeriousDuke]

I'm a nice guy, but when it comes to posts like that... it annoys me SO much! Just to criticize for criticizing sake... my God! That's pathetic! And... notice he is a first time poster. He got an account, just to criticize, myself, my actors and my work. Makes me sick.

I won't let it get to me though... and I will keep my head high!

~SeriousDuke

[Lobster Charlie]

Hey SeriousDuke, one more observation to keep you juiced:

I really liked Batman's arrival at the party. Right on cue when they ask "Where's Bruce?" Good stuff! Keep truckin'.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I quite like you style with these movies..i'm going to attempt one myself.

the only thing i will suggest is ask your batman to lover his voice and stop shouting,you as the joker..dude..you have a future..with a bit of training.

:up:

[Armoured-Fury]

Lol pretty good.. The voice cud do with some work thought, well Batmans voice.. I can do the type of voice Batman has you know low and dark so if ya ever need a voice or wateva just drop me a line, or a grapple *drum roll* lol

Good movies though :)

A. FURY

[Golden-Age Hero]

I'm a nice guy, but when it comes to posts like that... it annoys me SO much! Just to criticize for criticizing sake... my God! That's pathetic! And... notice he is a first time poster. He got an account, just to criticize, myself, my actors and my work. Makes me sick.

I won't let it get to me though... and I will keep my head high!

~SeriousDuke

I didn't post for criticizing sake. I offered you advice. I told you to spend more time and money on your films or wait until you can before you make more. There is nothing pathetic about my post. You posted a link to your film here, obviously wanting to share it and get some feedback. I watched and I told you what I thought of it. I didn't like it. Sue me. I'm certainly not going to lie to you about what I thought of it or give you my sympathy - especially when it's your own fault this turned out the way it did. It is obviously rushed and obviously cheap. Get some thicker skin or you'll never make it as a film maker. Good luck next time around.

I learned a long time ago to tell it like it is when it comes to rookie film makers. If it's bad, I'll be the first to tell ya. I'm hoping my comments will push you to do better. The fact that you started a project and finished it shows me that you have potential, but you're going to have to do a lot better to show you know what you're doing.

[bdsproductions]

those are both really awesome.do you intend to make a thrid one?.

[explode7]

They should fire Nolan and company and hire this guy for BB2.:p

[bdsproductions]

yeah,don't listen to the guy who dissed 'em smigel (i tihnk thats you) Brutailtyts acting was a bit...off not as bad as everyone said when i posted a link to your first one of IMDb but no where near as good as duailty best.fan.film.ever.

[SeriousDuke]

Thank you very much you guys! Thank you all for the feedback... I really appreciate it!:up:

Taking Nolan's place? LOL...

~SeriousDuke

[explode7]

Awww. Don't be shy you know you can do as a great a job as Nolan is doing.

[bdsproductions]

yeah,man you can do it!.

PS if yu do do a follow up with teh riddler as you suggested at the end of the film,i suggets you use this guy Timothy Maxwell i well,don't know in person but on websites.

[Sentinel X]

I didn't post for criticizing sake. I offered you advice. I told you to spend more time and money on your films or wait until you can before you make more. There is nothing pathetic about my post. You posted a link to your film here, obviously wanting to share it and get some feedback. I watched and I told you what I thought of it. I didn't like it. Sue me. I'm certainly not going to lie to you about what I thought of it or give you my sympathy - especially when it's your own fault this turned out the way it did. It is obviously rushed and obviously cheap. Get some thicker skin or you'll never make it as a film maker. Good luck next time around.

I learned a long time ago to tell it like it is when it comes to rookie film makers. If it's bad, I'll be the first to tell ya. I'm hoping my comments will push you to do better. The fact that you started a project and finished it shows me that you have potential, but you're going to have to do a lot better to show you know what you're doing.wow :confused:

[batadz]

as said in the previous post good pottentail seriuos juke keep going
at it

My bat film wont be finished for a good few months yet but ive probly being doing this alot longer than you on proofessional basis too but take it frm me your going places man (eventually)

stay tuned for beyond legend

[cass]

Awww. Don't be shy you know you can do as a great a job as Nolan is doing.

Ok, you just lost the right to breathe.

[batadz]

cass wouln't be from stockport by any chance would she?
It's just i know a cass

[warren_sparta27]

osm posters

i watched the tralier for for first sequal, looked pretty kool.
but my computer is kinda crap so i can't watch the whole thing :(

[millennium movies]

osm?

[SeriousDuke]

osm=awesome

~SeriousDuke

PS: Hey millennium movies!!!!

[DCW]

Enjoyed Duality much more than Brutality, great job Duke!

Nice poster MM!

[millennium movies]

Thanks guys!

[Sentinel X]

Thanks guys! Are you and Duke the same person?

[explode7]

^ How the hell did you come up with the idea for your sig dude. Thats brilliant!!!

[Sentinel X]

^ How the hell did you come up with the idea for your sig dude. Thats brilliant!!!Thanks,A friend commented it to me on my myspace :).

[Cats]

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/3567/batmandualityfinal5no.png (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPUL9VGM)
Nice poster. I like the colors. But why is Batman smiling? :eek:

[bdsproductions]

will there be a third one? title recomendation just Batman Redemtion.also,if you use Riddler good ol'Timmothy Maxwell would be awesome.

[Batman1939]

Not bad are you making a sequel to duality??? If so will we see the graysons because we see the circus thingy.

[millennium movies]

Are you and Duke the same person?

What the? No, as you can clearly tell by the names. Someone above said "nice poster MM" (millennium movies) since i did them. Thats why i said "thanks". Thats the only way im related to his films, the artwork.

[Sentinel X]

What the? No, as you can clearly tell by the names. Someone above said "nice poster MM" (millennium movies) since i did them. Thats why i said "thanks". Thats the only way im related to his films, the artwork.Oh...didnt read that part. Okay...nice poster indeed :up:

[SeriousDuke]

Well... I may make a sequel to Duality... in the near future. However, I am VERY tired now, and would like to relax. I just have to finish burning the Duality DVDs and await the premiere on Thursday.

I will be showing the films up at my school for a Drama final. And, if anyone on these boards lives in the Albuquerque, New Mexico area... be my guest and come on down to the premiere. It will be at Cibola High School in the Joan Kent theatre... admission is $1.00. It will also be the first time you can get your hands on the DVD boxset. The whole entire cast will be there as well, and we will be putting on a "live" show for the audience.

The chances of anyone on these boards actually coming are slim to none... so, I will be recording the live show as well as what goes on at the premiere!

And, yes... if I make a sequel... you will see it all "go down" at the circus.

~SeriousDuke

[Ronny Shade]

Hey! You're not allowed to charge for a fan film!

[CrimsonMist]

hey SeriousDuke, is it at all possible to get these movies on DVD from you? I'm on dial-up, and it takes too long to download.

if at all possible, PM me please

[StorminNorman]

Hey! You're not allowed to charge for a fan film!

Sounds to me like his drama group is doing a film festival type deal with several films with the cost of admission to all of them being a dollar. Either that or WB is going to burn the place down with everyone inside.

[Ronny Shade]

The WB one. I called them already. I'm a copyright Narc.

[TRUE]

Well... I may make a sequel to Duality... in the near future. However, I am VERY tired now, and would like to relax. I just have to finish burning the Duality DVDs and await the premiere on Thursday.

I will be showing the films up at my school for a Drama final. And, if anyone on these boards lives in the Albuquerque, New Mexico area... be my guest and come on down to the premiere. It will be at Cibola High School in the Joan Kent theatre... admission is $1.00. It will also be the first time you can get your hands on the DVD boxset. The whole entire cast will be there as well, and we will be putting on a "live" show for the audience.

The chances of anyone on these boards actually coming are slim to none... so, I will be recording the live show as well as what goes on at the premiere!

And, yes... if I make a sequel... you will see it all "go down" at the circus.

~SeriousDuke

Is that a hint?

[bdsproductions]

Is that a hint?


no,it's not a hint....*sarcasmgasm*

[SeriousDuke]

Yeah... numerous films will be shown at school, and I don't get any money... it all goes to the drama department.

~SeriousDuke

[the_masked_vigi]

Okay, I've got a comment followed by a few questions.

COMMENT: Why don't you film the sequel tomorrow? You don't seem to have trouble gathering actors, props, and writing lines within less than a days time. I mean, it really shows.

QUESTION ONE: Why the hell do your films suck?

QUESTION TWO: Why the hell is your name SeriousDuke? What makes you so serious and who the hell calls you "Duke"?

[Golden-Age Hero]

A "live show?" You must be a glutton for embarrassment. :)

Please don't make any more sequels. Do something original and spend some time and money on it. I'm telling ya, it'll pay off in the long run. Trust me, portfolios tend to be more impressive if they're comprised of something other than rubbish.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Okay, I've got a comment followed by a few questions.

COMMENT: Why don't you film the sequel tomorrow? You don't seem to have trouble gathering actors, props, and writing lines within less than a days time. I mean, it really shows.

QUESTION ONE: Why the hell do your films suck?

QUESTION TWO: Why the hell is your name SeriousDuke? What makes you so serious and who the hell calls you "Duke"?

Theres a usefull four letter word..and your full of it...

[Two-Face]

The_Masked_Vigi that was quite rude.... it's a Batman fan film not official movie!

[fabman]

Ok, here we go.
1st, THE BAD THINGS: Well, the acting etc. what has been critiziced wasn't very good, it could have been better. The next time you should tell your friends to relax in front of the cam, to move like they do when the cams are off. Yes, the film seems rushed, but OK, it's just a fan film. Something you want just to have fun with. When I watch a fan film I don't see it as a film, I just see, you know, people having fun in the right way, instead of smoking weed, they do something creative.

Anyway, for the next film do something different. Try to write an original screenplay, don't write something based on something that just exists. You know, a Batman movie isn't the best a 14-year-old guy with a non existing budget can realise. So, for your next movie you should write YOUR story, and it should be about teenagers. You know, the worst thing a teenager could do, is a film about adults.

Keep' doing your thing but I would enjoy to see something more "based on you" the next time.

[bdsproductions]

Ok, here we go.
1st, THE BAD THINGS: Well, the acting etc. what has been critiziced wasn't very good, it could have been better. The next time you should tell your friends to relax in front of the cam, to move like they do when the cams are off. Yes, the film seems rushed, but OK, it's just a fan film. Something you want just to have fun with. When I watch a fan film I don't see it as a film, I just see, you know, people having fun in the right way, instead of smoking weed, they do something creative.

it's not like its a "big,huge dramatic epic REAL batman movie,it's a fan film with very good story told to hell with somewhat bad acting it's a great story!.and technically speaking the guys 19 i believe (profile) so,technically he is a adult.it is very faithful to it's source material and with better budget and acatorsd (due to the returning cast.....and keep the joker guy) he could replace Nolan!

Anyway, for the next film do something different. Try to write an original screenplay, don't write something based on something that just exists. You know, a Batman movie isn't the best a 14-year-old guy with a non existing budget can realise. So, for your next movie you should write YOUR story, and it should be about teenagers. You know, the worst thing a teenager could do, is a film about adults.

Keep' doing your thing but I would enjoy to see something more "based on you" the next time.

technically speaking,a film about teenagers are one of the least enjoyable to make and,if you want to make a film thats not going to make money DON'T WORRY! just make the film you want to make make it original,Batman or scruffs mc****ing gee it's duke's film,let him do what he wants

PS on the acting i assume you mean Brutailty acting there was pretty bad but the quailty,and acting got better,much better especially on the two-face guys part.

[fabman]

I know he can do whatever he wants? But making "the right film" he could show what he really can, you know what a mean?

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Ive got to say..whats wrong with showing encouragement?

[bdsproductions]

yes however,it's a great way to start if you want to make a batfilm and the chances are low of ever actually being able to due it due it as a fan film! it's a well wirtte,fairly well acted (guy needs to work on his Bale voice) so,eyah it is a EXCELLENT idea (fun for batfans to great tide over for the real thing) anyway serious Duke,don't listen to the guy.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

i agree..but the kid is learning his craft...and these movies show promise..i sense great things in this kid.

:up:

[bdsproductions]

yeah,i support you infull Duke!.if you ever need any help with designs for characters just ask me!.

[SeriousDuke]

Thank you all for posting and commenting, they all mean so much to me. Except for some of those rude comments....

And why does it matter what name I use... SeriousDuke so what??? Most of the other names on this site don't make a lick of sense... and seriously... film a sequel in a day??? You've gotta be *****ting me! A lot of hard work went into these films... MONTHS of work. Please, you can say anything you want, just don't be an ass about it.

Sorry... I just had to get that out of me...

~SeriousDuke

[Ming]

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/3567/batmandualityfinal5no.png
This looks like fecal waste. Copulateing fecal waste.

[Golden-Age Hero]

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/3567/batmandualityfinal5no.png
This looks like fecal waste. Copulateing fecal waste.

:up:

[the_masked_vigi]

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/3567/batmandualityfinal5no.png
This looks like fecal waste. Copulateing fecal waste.
:up:

:up: :up:

[Super Flight]

^ you guys are horrible! :eek:

the posters not that bad

[Ronny Shade]

Well you could make a case for that being fecal waste on the side of Harvey's face there.

[Ming]

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/4020/batmanbrutalityfinal0yb.png

Obviously this is the archatype of the previous poster, since it seems that the previous one was only changed slightly.

The only change is that this one looks slightly more like fecal waste.

[millennium movies]

...
^More fecal waste

Since you dont seem to have half a brain. I used your language to describe what your posts are. Next time dont bother posting, leave it to the people that have something to say. Troll...

[Star-Titan]

^More fecal waste

Since you dont seem to have half a brain. I used your language to describe what your posts are. Next time dont bother posting, leave it to the people that have something to say. Troll...

*cheers for you* :up::up:

[millennium movies]

Were you being sarcastic?

[Star-Titan]

^ no i was aggreeing with you, i hate trolls

[Golden-Age Hero]

Why is it that everytime someone comes along and doesn't like something, he is labeled a troll? Can't we all have our own opinions, brutal as they may be? As I said to Eric earlier, grow thicker skin. The sooner you can accept that not evceryone is going to like your work, the sooner you'll be making better work.

[millennium movies]

How about you stop assuming? Then we can get along. I dont pay no mind to people who cant even come up with a constructive comment. I couldnt care one bit less if you dont like my work. Just know that if you got something to say, use your head if you want me to take it seriously one bit. Its that simple. You will maybe understand that once you do post your work and get these type of remarks. No questions asked , just a plain slap in the face. Im shure you'll deal better with it ;)

[Ronny Shade]

I, for one, am baffled by how much attention this is getting.

[millennium movies]

The film or the posters? People keep mistaking that im part of SeriousDuke's film. I only did the artwork and DVD label cover.

[Ronny Shade]

This thread in general. It's been getting more posts the past couplea days then...like...all the other threads.

[kenellard]

The film or the posters? People keep mistaking that im part of SeriousDuke's film. I only did the artwork and DVD label cover.

distancing ourselves from the project? Is someone pulling an Allan moore here???

[millennium movies]

Assumptions, poor ones at that too.

[kenellard]

this thread needs to close, it has two moves;

"omfg!!!!! great work!!!!!11111"
"why thank you"

"that sucked"
"oooh you are a nasty nasty man"

the movie isn't great, and why would it be. the kid will get better at it in time and then we'll all be happy, yay

[millennium movies]

uh huh...

SeriousDuke, man, dont give up! Dont pay attention to this whole agitation.

[Golden-Age Hero]

Yeah. If someone likes the film they're thanked for their comments, and if they don't, they're pretty much called a jerk. I swear.

[millennium movies]

You can say you dont like it but there are ways other than those displayed here.

[Mr. Socko]

So is this any good?

[millennium movies]

Its worth checking out. Its got some good stuff in it. Obviously it has its flaws, but mostly good directing and good acting, specialy joker's part. He told me today's his movie premiere at his local school theater. So he will film some footage of that and post it online. Should be interesting to see. As a wannabe filmaker myself i must say my curiosity is peeked.

[Super Flight]

The really hard part with fan films is that you cant compare them to professionly made films. Since the sound, picture and effects arent nearly at the same level. So this film was pretty much as good as you can get without speending millions of dollars. I've seen many fan films and this one was just as good as all the others i've seen

[StorminNorman]

This film could of been really good - but Harvey Dent, and Batman's acting ruined it.

[Mr. Socko]

This film could of been really good - but Harvey Dent, and Batman's acting ruined it.

What was wrong with Dent?

[Ronny Shade]

What was wrong with Dent?
Duh! It wasn't Liev Schreiber!

[StorminNorman]

What was wrong with Dent?

His acting was horrid? I must admit, I only watch half of this one (Duality) but Dent was easily the weakest actor in the last one (Brutality).

[Mr. Socko]

Was this better then Batman Dead End?

[StorminNorman]

I dont like Dead End at all, and I like the story of this movie. Plus I respect the length of it and budget so I consider it so. Quality wise though, it is not close.

[Mr. Socko]

How long is this? An hour?

[Keyser Sushi]

I dont like Dead End at all, and I like the story of this movie. Plus I respect the length of it and budget so I consider it so. Quality wise though, it is not close.

So in other words, this movie is high in artistic value, low in production value.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Check out the first movies M. Night Shyamalan or Peter Jackson made in their backyards, and look what those guys are doing now. :up:

[StorminNorman]

So in other words, this movie is high in artistic value, low in production value.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Check out the first movies M. Night Shyamalan or Peter Jackson made in their backyards, and look what those guys are doing now. :up:

More or less exactly.

We have not heard the last of Eric Speigal! Or maybe we have....

[Keyser Sushi]

[quote=StorminNorman]More or less exactly.[quote]

Hee hee hee...

...Yellow...

[StorminNorman]

It must be a Thurdsay, I could never get the hang of Thurdays.

[Mr. Socko]

It's Friday here.

[Keyser Sushi]

It must be a Thurdsay, I could never get the hang of Thurdays.

Nice weather for it.

[Super Flight]

Batman dead end was amazing! very good quility,acting and costumes :up:
I was surprised it wads a fan film

[the_masked_vigi]

Dead End could never be put into the category as Brutality or Duality.

Dead End had a short Joker. That was terrible. He's 6' at least (possibly taller based on whatever source you're going by, and he should never be shorter than that) and considering that Sandy Collara (sp?) worked on costumes for Alien and Predator, his film pulled a lot more than it should have. With Sandy's budget, he did poor as well as terrible in the same sentence.

Now in the case of Brutality and Duality, Batman sounds like he had a chicken bne caught in his throat and tried too hard to do the Bale voice. It is possible to talk in a deep voice without overdoing it.

Scarecrow threw what now? Sugar? Cosmetic powder? Cocaine? Whatever it was, I'm sure it fit your budget. I understand that your budget was a factor in your films, but even a fan film takes time. Months even. Not the one month you've spent (I'm sure :rolleyes:) that it took you to film each of these.

Dent was just bad. Harvey Dent is permanently scarred, no scabbed over. Read a comic book, look up an orgin or two. That's within everyone's budget... provided you have a computer of course.

So, not to sound like the many dissenters that you've attracted to your thread (I am one of them) but do try to listen to other comments. People who do not like your films are not telling you to stop altogether, they are trying to push you into making better films, not drive you away. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

But just so you understand the analogy: If you can't take the criticism, stop making films.

So yeah, Eric, better luck next time; Sandy, stick to costumes and special effects.

[kenellard]

uh huh...

SeriousDuke, man, dont give up! Dont pay attention to this whole agitation.

I don't think anyone has actually said serious duke should stop making films, this is what criticism is about, and I think negative comments help alot more than many of the condescending "oh my god this is better than any film i've ever seen in my whole life" comments. Now I'm only assuming you intended to put the movies up on the internet for the purpose of getting peoples honest opinions about them, however if you only want to listen to empty compliments then that is your problem.

Just keep making films, and eventually the praise will come, you do have potential.

[Ronny Shade]

Dead End could never be put into the category as Brutality or Duality.

Dead End had a short Joker. That was terrible. He's 6' at least (possibly taller based on whatever source you're going by, and he should never be shorter than that) and considering that Sandy Collara (sp?) worked on costumes for Alien and Predator, his film pulled a lot more than it should have. With Sandy's budget, he did poor as well as terrible in the same sentence.

Now in the case of Brutality and Duality, Batman sounds like he had a chicken bne caught in his throat and tried too hard to do the Bale voice. It is possible to talk in a deep voice without overdoing it.

Scarecrow threw what now? Sugar? Cosmetic powder? Cocaine? Whatever it was, I'm sure it fit your budget. I understand that your budget was a factor in your films, but even a fan film takes time. Months even. Not the one month you've spent (I'm sure :rolleyes:) that it took you to film each of these.

Dent was just bad. Harvey Dent is permanently scarred, no scabbed over. Read a comic book, look up an orgin or two. That's within everyone's budget... provided you have a computer of course.

So, not to sound like the many dissenters that you've attracted to your thread (I am one of them) but do try to listen to other comments. People who do not like your films are not telling you to stop altogether, they are trying to push you into making better films, not drive you away. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

But just so you understand the analogy: If you can't take the criticism, stop making films.

So yeah, Eric, better luck next time; Sandy, stick to costumes and special effects.

Dead End, was actually a budgeted short. That had money. They hired professional actors (arguably not very good ones, but...) This is some high school kids making a fan film, which, IMO, is not usually a good idea. I feel the best way to get started making movies is to make a sketch comedy short or a physchological drama. Something that actually fits the budget you have. That way it looks like you're making a movie about a bunch of high school kids rather than a bunch of high school kids trying to be adults and failing.

P.S. Dead End came out before Bale was even cast. So Clark Batram was not trying to emulate him.

[Super Flight]

Well at least it wasnt another star wars fan film, haha theres to many of those

[Keyser Sushi]

I don't think anyone has actually said serious duke should stop making films, this is what criticism is about, and I think negative comments help alot more than many of the condescending "oh my god this is better than any film i've ever seen in my whole life" comments. Now I'm only assuming you intended to put the movies up on the internet for the purpose of getting peoples honest opinions about them, however if you only want to listen to empty compliments then that is your problem.

Just keep making films, and eventually the praise will come, you do have potential.

The problem is, there is very little criticism in this thread that will be at all useful to SeriousDuke. Criticism is not about making negative comments, which is what half the people here seem to do, nor is it about making compliments that are completely useless to the creator, as most of the other half here seems to be doing.

Criticism is something else entirely.

Criticism is telling the person both what they did well, and what they did poorly. BOTH. Not one or the other.

BOTH.

Moreover, criticism is about making suggestions. You should NOT say, "that part sucked" and not explain WHY you think it failed. You have to say WHY. Always WHY. If there is no why, it is not useful to SeriousDuke. If you tell him you didn't like his work and you don't tell him what the problem was, then there's no way that he can ever learn anything from that.

Likewise, somebody who says, "that was great, keep it up" is not doing anything helpful because they're not saying what he did right, or why they liked it.

He needs to hear what he did well, so he can feel confident in his abilities and understand what works; and he also needs to hear what did not work, so he can understand what not to do next time, and he needs some suggestions that are useful to him. He does not have a lot of money to work with and, from the sound of things, he's just a kid, so anybody who is expecting a higher level of professionalism from him is asking far more than is reasonable. Give him a few years.

And show him a little support, because he needs it. But don't kiss his butt, either. That's just as condescending as a hateful review.

[millennium movies]

I don't think anyone has actually said serious duke should stop making films, this is what criticism is about, and I think negative comments help alot more than many of the condescending "oh my god this is better than any film i've ever seen in my whole life" comments. Now I'm only assuming you intended to put the movies up on the internet for the purpose of getting peoples honest opinions about them, however if you only want to listen to empty compliments then that is your problem.

Just keep making films, and eventually the praise will come, you do have potential.

Why do you keep assuming i worked on his films? When in truth all i did was the posters and DVD covers. Now before you go and blast something you dont like of the face of the earth, you could stop a second and think "what did he have to work with?" or "what was the clients request for the posters?" then you might truly get to appreciate the posters.

I have to constantly remind someone here that the design was SD's idea and his pictures that were provided for me to work with were taken by a cellphone camera so in other words it was very low quality to begin with. Thats why one simple (rude) negative word is just very very much like a slap in the face. Im actualy very proud of the work i did on his posters so im not blaming Duke for anything. I wanted you to know there was more to this than what you keep assuming.

Like i said, maybe others do want you to go all "WOWZERS!!!!" all the time. This is not my case, all i want is a constructive comment instead of a one word dumb remark which wont do nothing to help the progression of the artwork. Its more comments like "i dont like this" or "this should be a little higher" , its not that hard. If you can take the time to post in this topic , im shure you could come up with a full sentence. At least thats what i'd expect. I dont know about other artists but comments like "wow" or "it sucks" dont help me one bit to progress in my artwork.

Its so stupid that thinking that people have around here. That idea that because someone posts it online for everyone to view, that atomaticaly they have to expect people to bash it. Pure non-sense! People post their work in order to share it with others and to get points of views on what can be made better. Sometimes people also just do it for the pure fun and appreciation of their skills. They want to share it with everyone else. There will always be those that post them online also to get it seen for opportunities for a career advancement. Still every artwork still deserves a little respect even if its not to your liking, art is art in one way or another. Something the next guy will hate, you might end up liking. Just dont be an a55 about it!

Next time leave the "big" words at home...

EDIT: right on keyser sushi, i see we both were thinking on common ground

[Keyser Sushi]

EDIT: right on keyser sushi, i see we both were thinking on common ground

Hehehe... yeah, I was about to say the same thing to you. :)

I was an Art major in college, but now I'm more concerned with writing. My Mom's a singer. I've been surrounded by one type of art or another all my life, so I get pretty pissed when people slam things without understanding what it is they're looking at or thinking about the circumstances under which it was made.

Context is EVERYTHING.

[millennium movies]

Hehehe... yeah, I was about to say the same thing to you. :)

I was an Art major in college, but now I'm more concerned with writing. My Mom's a singer. I've been surrounded by one type of art or another all my life, so I get pretty pissed when people slam things without understanding what it is they're looking at or thinking about the circumstances under which it was made.

Context is EVERYTHING.

Gold, pure gold what you said. So right in many ways! Now thats a reason why i dont take these boards so serious and i dont post so often. People have no respect around here in most cases. Specialy everytime new members come along.

[Keyser Sushi]

Gold, pure gold what you said. So right in many ways! Now thats a reason why i dont take these boards so serious and i dont post so often. People have no respect around here in most cases. Specialy everytime new members come along.

Thanks. The strange this is, most of these people will rip anything, by anyone - whether the artist in question is SeriousDuke, Sandy Collora, or Christopher Nolan.

There's no pleasing them. Once we accept that, it's easier to deal with it. I used to spend a lot of time defending BB everytime some fanboy complained that it wasn't to his liking. Now I don't even worry about it unless I'm bored. I think complaining makes them happy. Well, maybe not happy, but... something.

I think it's about bitterness for them...

[millennium movies]

Yeah, your probably right there.

[Keyser Sushi]

Sadly...

[StorminNorman]

Scarecrow threw what now? Sugar? Cosmetic powder? Cocaine? Whatever it was, I'm sure it fit your budget. I understand that your budget was a factor in your films, but even a fan film takes time. Months even. Not the one month you've spent (I'm sure :rolleyes:) that it took you to film each of these.

Dent was just bad. Harvey Dent is permanently scarred, no scabbed over. Read a comic book, look up an orgin or two. That's within everyone's budget... provided you have a computer of course.


Are you trying to state that these films were not made in the time frame SeriousDuke gave us? Because they were, he constantly updated a film journal (type thing) he had, and the "actor" that played Bruce Wayne actually posted on here a few times.

The actor who played Dent was bad, the story around him was not. SeriousDuke made the changes on purpose, he was trying something else - and it stayed in character. Begins did it with Scarecrow, and Ras - Superdude did it with Two Face. The key is they got the character right, no matter how poorly acted (in Dent's case).

[Mr. Socko]

Downloading this bad boy now.

[SeriousDuke]

Good, good Mr. Socko! I hope you enjoy! Let me know what you think(but make sure you have seen Brutality first)...

As for what everyone is saying... I totally agree. Something stating best.fan.film.ever is not going to help me one bit, nor is someone saying it sucks. Well, why does it suck? And why is this the best fan film ever???

The whole reason I posted on here is just to show you all what I had in myself. I came on months ago posting the script... many thought, how is this guy(little knew I was in fact a teenager) going to make this? And he says he has a $500 budget? Hmmmm... I took my time with the films, I perfected every little thing to my liking-- I even refilmed MANY scenes. This took me nearly a half a year to make(5 months-- filming and editing, not preparations or script writing) and for someone to come on here, saying that I made each film in a month... well, that really hurts. I mean, I could see if in actuallity I did make the films in a month, but that is not the case... It's best to know before you post. And, there are also many fan films that have fallen through... probabally more have fallen through, than more that have been actually made. The films were also filmed together, kind of a Matrix or Back to the Future thing... it wasn't I finished one and then started on the other.

And, I posted the finished films... just to show you all that I completed a goal. And, I am sure proud of it. I have done many things in life and then backed out because I didn't want to continue... or it was too hard. But I stayed close with these films and I completed my goal. It's something I'm really proud of.

And... for the characters... I wanted my own take. I've read hundreds of Batman comics and I know most of the characters like the back of my hand. I wanted to work with them, just as Nolan did for Begins, because after all... this IS a sequel to Batman Begins. And... Two-Face. He was burned with boiling water... he TEARED his face away. His face then scabbed over... the scab would constantly rip, blood would ooze out, causing another scab to form... so, in actuallity it will never actually heal-- unless he gets a medical professional to work with it. And, he didn't have a half-and-half suit... why? Well, Ra's didn't have a green coat... but he was still Ra's... the Scarecrow didn't have his goofy hat, but he was still the Scarecrow. So, I simply worked with ideas and came up with my own. Even though I was doing Batman(an unoriginal character) I still wanted to be original.

I will be posting a video of the premiere soon, just need to finish editing it. Oh, and the premiere went great... 60 people showed up... and enjoyed the show. A few technical difficulties, but nothing to worry about.

~SeriousDuke

[bdsproductions]

it is the best because it is made like what a batfilm would; be like with a EXTERMLY low budget.it is the best because it was done like a movie in a way.

i would like to offer my services as creative consultant on the sequel.at least that is what i think it is.anyways someone you go to for help does script polish ups if neccisary.stuff like that.if you need help come to me in a private message and tell me what you need!.

[Ronny Shade]

it is the best because it is made like what a batfilm would; be like with a EXTERMLY low budget.it is the best because it was done like a movie in a way.

i would like to offer my services as creative consultant on the sequel.at least that is what i think it is.anyways someone you go to for help does script polish ups if neccisary.stuff like that.if you need help come to me in a private message and tell me what you need!.
Are you saying that a Batman film is better with a low budget?

I have to violently disagree.

[bdsproductions]

no i meant it's what it would be like with a low-budget.but i would reccomended spending a bit of money on the next film thoughe.

[Lobster Charlie]

I contributed my feedback a few pages earlier. I don't think you should *stop* doing fan-based work, I think it needs to be more focused and smaller in scope. And maybe try to build some convincing sets (no more suburban houses), nothing major, just create a stronger illusion.

all in all, much respect for getting so much work done. :)

[SeriousDuke]

Yeah, I know LobsterCharlie... but, I always love to push the envelope further... and make the next best thing, and see what I can do. Try to make it as jam-packed with stuff that will chalenge me. It's more fun that way.

~SeriousDuke

[batadz]

sorry if i missed most of the convo guys I've been away for a week but somthing caught my eye that i needed to mention to serious juke:

If you have made a film with a copywrighted image/character in it (ie batman for instance) and have not got permission of the respective parties ie (warneer bros and dc). And you have made money out of it then you are leaving your ass open to a serious legal whooping!!!

If you have made money out of it then NEVER, repeat NEVER, show that you have. Espesially on the internet as you never know whos agents are watching/reading/listening - I know this sounds like common paranoia - but it is not!!!!

The guy who made batman deadend almost got sued by those two parties if it wen'rt for a certain disclaimer (I'm unfamilliar with the details)

If you make money fine thats great!!! but NEVER admit it unless you have got a serious law firm to back you up even if it is JUST A FAN FILM.

This probly wont effect you this time but I'd bear it in mind in anything you do!!!

I know i ve mentioned this but i felt it was so important I' mention it again:

NEVER admit to making money out of a copywrited image!!!!!!

Clear? good I'm glad we sorted that out!

[Whack Arnolds]

SeriousDuke~
Great stuff man. Which character did you play? Or did you just direct? Are you looking into a career in film making? It's nice to see your enthusiasm and love for the mythos shine through in your efforts. Keep it up, and one day you may be a pro.

[Mr. Socko]

I watched it and really enjoyed it. It had it's high spots and weak spots. Gordon's stache was really distracting and wouldn't it have been better to get your dad or some old guy to play Alfred? But back to the movie, the story was great but this seemed more like a Tim Burton Batman film because I just got a feeling that the story revolved more around The Joker and Two Face then it did Batman/Bruce Wayne. But thats not a big problem. Batman's costume was decent, good that you used the eye makeup but the cowl did not fit Batman at all. It reminds me of the shot of Batman looking up in Batman '89 where the mask doesn't seem to fit Michael Keaton at all. The Batman voice sounded like a bad version of Christian Bale, but it was not to shabby at times. The scores were very good and the sound effects. I loved all of the fights because of the sound effects of the punches. This is one of few fanfilms that has a decent score and placed properly in the movie. At first I saw the running time of 36 minutes and went "Oh Lord" but grabbed my attention the entire time. The script was ok, the only good actor worthy of notice was The Joker. But it was definitely his lines that helped, too. Just loved the part about Joker killing the cashier because she overpriced him for a twinkie, Lol. You've got alot of talent, keep up the good work Duke.

Overall Rating: 8/10

Btw, Duke, Where'd you learn to edit? Curious because I too am interested in fan films but I'm too lazy to start.

[Keyser Sushi]

I watched it and really enjoyed it. It had it's high spots and weak spots. Gordon's stache was really distracting and wouldn't it have been better to get your dad or some old guy to play Alfred? But back to the movie, the story was great but this seemed more like a Tim Burton Batman film because I just got a feeling that the story revolved more around The Joker and Two Face then it did Batman/Bruce Wayne. But thats not a big problem. Batman's costume was decent, good that you used the eye makeup but the cowl did not fit Batman at all. It reminds me of the shot of Batman looking up in Batman '89 where the mask doesn't seem to fit Michael Keaton at all. The Batman voice sounded like a bad version of Christian Bale, but it was not to shabby at times. The scores were very good and the sound effects. I loved all of the fights because of the sound effects of the punches. This is one of few fanfilms that has a decent score and placed properly in the movie. At first I saw the running time of 36 minutes and went "Oh Lord" but grabbed my attention the entire time. The script was ok, the only good actor worthy of notice was The Joker. But it was definitely his lines that helped, too. Just loved the part about Joker killing the cashier because she overpriced him for a twinkie, Lol. You've got alot of talent, keep up the good work Duke.

Overall Rating: 8/10

Btw, Duke, Where'd you learn to edit? Curious because I too am interested in fan films but I'm too lazy to start.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is the way to do a critique. :up:

[Mr. Socko]

Thank you, now bow down to Buddah.

[SeriousDuke]

lol... thanks for the nice review... perfect!

To all that have been wondering... I played the Joker.

Before these Batman films I had no clue on how to edit. I got an editing program for Christmas, Adobe Premiere Elements 2.0, and read a little out of the book. I was thinking to myself, this is way to hard. I then just messed around with the program, getting a hang of it. That's the best way to learn something, actually do it. So, no previous editing experience.

And, if any are interested, here is a short video that I put together of the premiere. I did NOT make one cent on the films. It all went to the drama department.

(1) http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=4883790
(2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKdfuAta_-w

Enjoy!

~SeriousDuke

[Two-Face]

I watched few mins ago and acting was ok. I think you got some talent of directing a film I liked Harvey's scars well made sorry that review was short but I enjoyed watching the film.

[batadz]

You did it again!!!!!! you sjouldn't even mention the drama department getting the "FUNDS" this implies you have taken money of the public! LOL

[Ronny Shade]

You did it again!!!!!! you sjouldn't even mention the drama department getting the "FUNDS" this implies you have taken money of the public! LOL
exactly my point. Sup Adz. It's been a while.

[millennium movies]

Hey guys! Sorry for the long wait but i've finally finished up on the CD labels. For those interested...
here they are;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/Bobby_Blu3/BBcd.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/Bobby_Blu3/BDcd.jpg

DVD cover;
http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/9533/batdvdcoverbest1ti.jpg

[Two-Face]

Pretty cool MM :up:

[Ronny Shade]

Not bad:up:

[millennium movies]

Thanks guys!

[batadz]

ronny im on now if you sighn in (obviously you might read this when im not but hey so what, Ive got more news beyondwise and you know what wise too so do what you gotta

[Mr. Socko]

I think you're a little too paraniod. WB wouldn't sue him because they'd get jack. It's not worth their time.

And Duke, do you have any other projects coming along? I'd love to see what else you can do.

[SeriousDuke]

well i have many finished... not edited on a comp tho... i will post some soon, and yes, i have a few other films that i am working on.(Not Batman related)

~SeriousDuke

[cunning-stunt]

Mr Socko . . . yeah WB would sue him . . . when you are big enough, you have the money to go and sue whoever you want, as you make 100 times your legal costs everyday anyway.

Big companies love making examples out of people, even students.


SeriousDuke . . . . Well done on this effort. With what you had, you pulled together a great little film. Heck, in high school, i would have WISHED i could have done something like that now.

Hell, even nowadays i cant get my actors to wear superhero costumes. (i run a theatre company, so i have a tiny bit of experience in these things)

Ok, the acting wasnt Brando . . . so what?? I got really annoyed by people out there that shot you down, because they wasted a few minutes/hours downloading your films and expecting them to be something ground breaking and Cannes worthy, its made at school, and a far sight better than most other people can put together.
And also, What on Earth made you think that this was meant to be a serious money earning film???? It was made for fun and the love of film making. So lay off!

From what you had to work with and the time frame, and casting pool, i congratulate you.

To the so called professionals who are saying things like "You need to hear this and be thick skinned", lay off him, have 'you' gone anywhere in life by putting down other people???

SeriousDuke . . . . dude . . . .you rock my world.
What i saw in the films wasnt the bad acting, the costumes, the cheap camera. . . . . i saw vision. An AWESOME vision. And vision is the ONLY thing that you need to make it in this business. AND NOTHING ELSE. If you have a vision that you can never lose sight of, and you find a way in your 20s to keep your vision 'clear', you just might get somewhere.

This is me talking, i havent even made it in this business yet . . . . im just talking survival talk . . . . . being sucessful is 70% luck. You have to keep your vision is you want to at least survive whilst being a struggling artiste'.

Just remember mate, keep your head in the clouds, but your feet on the ground.

[Mr. Socko]

^Great compliments, this man knows what he's talking about.

Oh and Duke, Loved the Pee Wee music and The Joker pissing on Batman and spitting on him....LMAO!!!

[SeriousDuke]

Lol... thanks Mr. Socko. I thought the Pee-Wee music brought OUT the Joker, his personality, who he was... what he's thinking. And, it worked great IMHO. I also wanted to show the sickness of the Joker, through him 'relieving' himself on Batman.

And, not trying to start something here... but, I had told my drama teacher before I showed the films that I didn't want ANYONE to pay to see this film. I wanted it to be a big free event... heck, I would get more people to come anyway. And, from the beginning... all drama productions put on do not go to the putter-oners, all money goes to the drama dept. I didn't see any of the money anyway... and, I had told I didn't want anyone to pay. But, my teacher said, WE HAVE TO CHARGE SOMETHING. But, now that that is out of the way... let's just forget about it.

And... thank you VERY much for that post cunning-stunt. I will remember it forever... and remember what you said, and use it! Thank you! And... yes, I'm glad you noticed that the film had a vision. My vision, that follows me in every film I make, or have made so far.

~SeriousDuke

[SeriousDuke]

For any that are interested... I made a video of the premiere up at my school.

Enjoy:
(1) http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=4883790
(2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKdfuAta_-w

~SeriousDuke

[Mr. Socko]

Pretty cool.

And how could WB or anyone even track you down to sue you anyway? Those guys are paraniod. They don't know where you live or your real name.

[SeriousDuke]

You never know, Mr. Socko... they have there ways.

~SeriousDuke

[bdsproductions]

great films and more adventures,and proably better ones,are still to come.

[kenellard]

great films and more adventures,and proably better ones,are still to come.

Is making pointless nonsense posts "your thing"?

[bdsproductions]

Is making pointless nonsense posts "your thing"?


actually,me and Serious Duke are actually working on a third film,not a nonesense post scripts have been written,a few "bale imppressionists" are too change there voices.

[kenellard]

I know this has been said before but it's sound advice, i think you guys would get much better results doing a small-scale film, with actual teenaged characters, rather than teens attempting to play adults. also no matter how hard you try with your current expertise and budget, it's almost impossible to make even a passable bat-movie. It'd be better for you guys to get more into the actual craft of movie making (ie, direction, editing), rather than try to copy something like begins, which as I said, is quite far out of your reach right now.