What Villian(s) should star in the next X-Men trilogy series?

[phoenixflight]

Although there are strong rumors stating that X-Men 3: The Last Stand will be the last X-Men movie, I do agree that it will be the last in this trilogy. Here's hoping for X-Men's 4, 5, and 6, but who should star as the main baddie. Magneto was perfect, however with a possible new team, a new villian should emerge. There are so many to choose from. I have only listed a few.

[Abaddon]

Trask,Lang,Nimrod,Bastion,Sinister,Arcade,Proteus, Master Mold,Legacy Virus,Marauders.

[RagingTempest]

I would like to see Sinister and the Nasty Boys and Apocalyse and his Horsemen.:up:

[WorthyStevens]

Sinister and Archangel. Hellfire Club would be nice too.

[jusblaze21]

Sinister, Master Mold

[PWN3R]

Man I know it would never happen but dang...Arcade. :(

[Quentin Beck]

I'd like Apocalypse and his Horsemen and Mr. Sinister and the Marauders :)

[DarKush]

Apocalypse, Hellfire Club, Nimrod, Bastion

[phoenix_force]

well i just have a crazy dream that the next trilogy would be different...that jean grey would be it's main character and it would be all about the shi'ar and such but differentfrom the comics a sort of alien invasion of earth be the shi'ar and no one but jean has enough power to challange them but she is hesitant about using her power and suff like that and the trilogy all about humans and mutants fighting alongside angainst these aliens........in my view something like that could be awesome and ..different

[Abaddon]

nah:down

[Hellion]

Apocalypse, Sinister, Hellfire Club, and the Acolytes!

[Sun_Down]

I think if they went with Apocalypse, the internet would in fact crack in half. I believe that the Hype alone would be filled with so many "OMFG! This sucks/rocks!" threads that our computers would literally explode.

That said, it would be pretty interesting, if done right.

[RagingTempest]

Seriously, Apocalyse is the ultimate villain, The next trilogy(hopefully there will be one) will be crazy not to have him as a villian.

I think the villians should go like this for next trilogy:

X4-Bastion and Mastermold
X5-Sinister and The Nasty Boys or Marauders, Hellfire Club(think these 2 groups could work together in this film)
X6-Apocalyse and his Horsemen(Abyss, Holocaust, Sinister, and Archangel)

[FieryBalrog]

Apocalypse is a candy-ass villain, esp compared to the incomparable Magneto, but I wouldn't mind seeing him in the movies if he's done right and threatening.

[Abaddon]

Apocalypse is a bit two-dimensional.

[SAToker]

wow im the only one to say mojo on the vote. does no one else see the potential of mojo? he ****ed with the xmen for ratings. that means the xmen can go through various battles in one movie. and when they beat it then another "episode" starts and they are in danger again, almost like the danger room. I dont like mojo as a character really but his idea was kinda cool and with movies being so hollywood why not make something like that? I mean they butchered the xmen characters storylines so much, why not make something like the old cartoon episode?

[DroolingforGwen]

Seriously, Apocalyse is the ultimate villain, The next trilogy(hopefully there will be one) will be crazy not to have him as a villian.

I think the villians should go like this for next trilogy:

X4-Bastion and Mastermold
X5-Sinister and The Nasty Boys or Marauders, Hellfire Club(think these 2 groups could work together in this film)
X6-Apocalyse and his Horsemen(Abyss, Holocaust, Sinister, and Archangel)

All thses villains are important, but too much to cram in... i guess it could work without 2 of 3 out of Nasty Boys, Bastion, and Hellsfire CLub

X4: Sentinels, Sinister
X5: Hellfire Club, Intro to Apocalype
X6: Four Horseman...

[Mr. Sinister05]

The X-men storyline seems to have reached a more epic scale with the 3rd movie. The number of characters, issues, and scale in which the story is being told has increased.

Therefore, I think the next movie needs to focus on a villain that fits within the political/social backdrop that underlie each of the movies.
Plus, I think they need to choose a villain that goes along with maintaining a progressive sense of storytelling rather than simply picking the flashiest villain to put on screen.

With this in mind, I actually think that someone like Graydon Creed and the Freinds of Humanity is a good choice since it includes everyday people (not just some cool villain that the X-men have to defeat) that would help move the social/political backdrop (that existed for the previous movies) right into the foreground throughout the movie. This would help showcase the world in which this fantasy story takes place. Plus, this would allow for a colorful visual display of the issues including the level of hatred, prejudice, propaganda, and government control as total chaos ensues (eventually leading into something like "Days of Future Past" only with no time travel).

Anyone else agree that this would be a good idea? I know I'm proabably in the minority due to the fact that this doesn't sound like a particularly flashy but the X-men isn't just a cookie cutter action flick. If a writer chose to go with this premise I'm sure there would be a way to find it work.

[tonytr1687]

The X-men storyline seems to have reached a more epic scale with the 3rd movie. The number of characters, issues, and scale in which the story is being told has increased.

Therefore, I think the next movie needs to focus on a villain that fits within the political/social backdrop that underlie each of the movies.
Plus, I think they need to choose a villain that goes along with maintaining a progressive sense of storytelling rather than simply picking the flashiest villain to put on screen.

With this in mind, I actually think that someone like Graydon Creed and the Freinds of Humanity is a good choice since it includes everyday people (not just some cool villain that the X-men have to defeat) that would help move the social/political backdrop (that existed for the previous movies) right into the foreground throughout the movie. This would help showcase the world in which this fantasy story takes place. Plus, this would allow for a colorful visual display of the issues including the level of hatred, prejudice, propaganda, and government control as total chaos ensues (eventually leading into something like "Days of Future Past" only with no time travel).

Anyone else agree that this would be a good idea? I know I'm proabably in the minority due to the fact that this doesn't sound like a particularly flashy but the X-men isn't just a cookie cutter action flick. If a writer chose to go with this premise I'm sure there would be a way to find it work.

Friends of Humanity would be kinda redundant since we've already had plain humans as the villian in X2, and to an extent in X3 (especially if the Sentinels come in). Sinister and Apocalypse would provide a new angle we've never seen before.

[Mr. Sinister05]

Well, what we haven't seen is widespread pandemonium such as mobs over-running a city and openly hunting and killing mutants. When the mutants fight back, this could encourage a further hostile response from the government as Sentinals are unleashed and the military undertakes a hostile initiative.

How could the initial widespread pandemonium by mobs of people come about without prompt government interference to avoid this hostile response? Easy. The government becomes more corrupt and the political climate becomes more hostile. The Freinds of Humanity could be a political group (with a strong radical undercurrent) that is advocated by a number of high class government leaders (in the House and Senate) and advisers that play to public fears. Unbeknownst to the public (who think of the freinds of humanity as holding holding their best interests) however, is how truly radical the leaders behind this group are.


I think it would work better to not incorporate Sinister or Apocalypse right away. As I said earlier, I'd like to see the X-men films lead into a Days of Future past storyline without the time travel. Therefore, I would like to see one of them be introduced later on in the movie.
Sinister or Apocalypse could be implemented as a secret affiliate (either governmentally or independently based) to Graydon Creed and be fully revealed on screen sometime later on as a major power player.

One interesting twist indeed would be to reveal that one of the higher-ups (maybe even the president; while this may sound a bit silly you get the idea) is indeed Sinister or Apocalypse. Just shows what voting for the wrong person in a volatile social climate can do! It could become evident that this secret character has their own agenda (such s playing to fears projected by Creed and supporting his plans only to show that the main concern of this character doesn't really concern humans but something more) at the end of the movie.

[SpiderHulkThing]

Apocalypse and his Horsemen and Mr. Sinister and the Marauders

[RagingTempest]

The X-men storyline seems to have reached a more epic scale with the 3rd movie. The number of characters, issues, and scale in which the story is being told has increased.

Therefore, I think the next movie needs to focus on a villain that fits within the political/social backdrop that underlie each of the movies.
Plus, I think they need to choose a villain that goes along with maintaining a progressive sense of storytelling rather than simply picking the flashiest villain to put on screen.

With this in mind, I actually think that someone like Graydon Creed and the Freinds of Humanity is a good choice since it includes everyday people (not just some cool villain that the X-men have to defeat) that would help move the social/political backdrop (that existed for the previous movies) right into the foreground throughout the movie. This would help showcase the world in which this fantasy story takes place. Plus, this would allow for a colorful visual display of the issues including the level of hatred, prejudice, propaganda, and government control as total chaos ensues (eventually leading into something like "Days of Future Past" only with no time travel).

Anyone else agree that this would be a good idea? I know I'm proabably in the minority due to the fact that this doesn't sound like a particularly flashy but the X-men isn't just a cookie cutter action flick. If a writer chose to go with this premise I'm sure there would be a way to find it work.

I think Sinister and Apocalyse can be handled well and realisticly, I mean why not have the first mutant who ever lived in the films, I think it would bring the X-men storyline and the reasons why there are mutants in the first place into full-circle!!!

[Abaddon]

Not really.In the comics Apocalypse was augmented using Celestial technology.They obviously wouldn't present anything alien in the film,so it wouldn't work very well.If Apocalypse is truly the first mutant,evolution would dictate that he'd be very weak compared to his descendants,so to speak.

[Mr. Sinister05]

I think Sinister and Apocalyse can be handled well and realisticly, I mean why not have the first mutant who ever lived in the films, I think it would bring the X-men storyline and the reasons why there are mutants in the first place into full-circle!!!

In my second post, I thought of an interesting way of fitting Apocalypse or Sinister in.:rolleyes: I'm sure there's a better way to fit them in but hey, just an idea that I took actually some time to explain.:)

[Abaddon]

I could see Sinister working in,but Poccy would be more difficult.

[Mr. Sinister05]

Yeah, I agree that Sinister would be easier to incorporate.

If Apocalypse is gonna be used, I think that it would be best to set things up for his revealing (maybe something along the lines of what I suggested in my second post) rather than just suddenly introduce him as a major villain.
Furthermore, I think Apocalypse should be brought in if it's leading into a Days of Future past type storyline.

As I said in the Age of Apocalypse thread (at http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218361&page=3) I'd like this storyline if:


The Age of Apocalypse storyline would progress the series nicely. Big characters dying off and everything changing is what'll be needed for it to work though. However, this is unlikely to happen since many comic fans don't like change or anything that doesn't allow for things to return back to the status quo. A lot of fan boys would rather see things flatline into mediocrity than seeing a movie that would make sacrices (such as a hero character dying for instance) to keep the story moving and break off from formula.

This is why franchise based comic movies have alot to overcome in order to break away from a summer popcorn munching flick.

[Abaddon]

well Apocalyse would conflict with a Days of Future Past storyline considering in that reality Sentinels pretty much dominate the planet.

[lordofthenerds]

I'd like to see a Sentinel storyline for 4 with a little bit of Sintiser. Then a Sinister storyline for 5. Then a Apocolypse and Archangel storyline for 6.

[RagingTempest]

I could see Sinister working in,but Poccy would be more difficult.

I think how it could work is that Sinister finds Apocalyse over 150 years ago in his tomb, Apocalyse awakes, then Apocaylse turns Sinister into a mutant like him. I think since Apocaylse, like you said would be weaker than his descandents, Sinister can make technology that will make Sinister survive for all those years, even make Apocalyse's cyborg suit to enhance his powers. Sinister is a genius, the writers can find some way to make him help Apocalyse.

[Mr. Sinister05]

well Apocalyse would conflict with a Days of Future Past storyline considering in that reality Sentinels pretty much dominate the planet.

No he wouldn't.:rolleyes: He'd help be an initiator of the well apocalypse. The Sentinals and Apocalypse can go right together.

Apocalypse will somehow have a position of power (I had a vague idea for how this could happen in my second post). Throughout the cartoon show and comics I remember the Days of Future past being filled with Sentinals and Apocalypse being a major reason for this happening. I don't remember the specifics but I do know that the Sentinals and Apocalypse can easily fit in together.


Furthermore, compound my ideas with Raging Tempest's ideas in the post above it may even be possible to add Mr. Sinister into this equation as well.

[Abaddon]

Hmm,he'd still have to be much older than 150 years.I'm not sure of the history of Egypt of the time,but itd probably be a significant departure from the comics if he wasnt around when the pyramids were built.

[Mr. Sinister05]

What's to say that you couldn't have him be old?

[Abaddon]

No he wouldn't.:rolleyes: He'd help be an initiator of the well apocalypse. The Sentinals and Apocalypse can go right together.

Apocalypse will somehow have a position of power (I had a vague idea for how this could happen in my second post). Throughout the cartoon show and comics I remember the Days of Future past being filled with Sentinals and Apocalypse being a major reason for this happening. I don't remember the specifics but I do know that the Sentinals and Apocalypse can easily fit in together.


Furthermore, compound my ideas with Raging Tempest's ideas in the post above it may even be possible to add Mr. Sinister into this equation as well.


In the show, the Days of Future Past was created when one of the X-men(supposedly) turned on the team and assasinated Senator Kelly or something.

Why the hell would Apocalypse be connected to machines designed to identify and destroy mutants?He had nothing to do with the DoFP storyline.

[Abaddon]

What's to say that you couldn't have him be old?


My point was,he'd have to be older.

[Mr. Sinister05]

In the show, the Days of Future Past was created when one of the X-men(supposedly) turned on the team and assasinated Senator Kelly or something.

Why the hell would Apocalypse be connected to machines designed to identify and destroy mutants?He had nothing to do with the DoFP storyline.

You're right. I haven't read the comics or watched the TV show in a while so I thought Apocalypse was somehow involved in "The Days of Future Past" storyline when he was really involved in the "Age of Apocalypse" storyline.

However, I think that they could choose Apocalypse to be the initiator of some catastrophic event (maybe manipulate an aggressive military strike on another country thus spurring a war). Senator Kelly is dead already so we know he can't be assassinated.

[psylockolussus]

Apocalypse & his horsemen

[bengan]

I would hate to see even more supernaturalbaddies like Apocalypse or the Shi´ar(com´on guys, waaaaay to 80). The audience wouldnt appreciate and neither would I. Its just way off.

[snowball_83]

Spiral, but I don't know how great they could pull off the six armed look

[bengan]

Spiral, but I don't know how great they could pull off the six armed look

Would she be alone or what? And how was she in the comics? Isnt she some kind of mythical(is that even a word)? Wasnt she with MOJO?