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Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2006, 02:57 AM
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about -
The end of the film, the final sequence; the money shot that has our hero swinging dynamically through the city.
I can't think of another film that has such a sequence, and it's become a trademark for the series.
http://i2.tinypic.com/spar0n.jpg
What do you think the new sequence will be like?
I have two ideas about this. I'm guessing, based on the darker tone that the publicity shot seems to be hinting at, that the final swing will be either at night or in the rain.
And I'm guessing that it'll be a lot less triumphant than the first two films. More subdued and determined.
dark_b
04-01-2006, 02:59 AM
if the movei ends with venom than they should show some venom swinging.
Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2006, 03:02 AM
Surely Venom will have been defeated by this point?
pwhitrow
04-01-2006, 03:30 AM
Silhouette of a black figure swinging through the city, then very fast up to and past the camera as the figure is revealed as Venom.
that would work for me and would certainly make me leave the Cinema salivating for the next movie.
GoldGoblin
04-01-2006, 03:37 AM
Since spidey won't be wearing the symbiote by then,and since Venom will be dead,spidey will have his red and blue suit.For the background,it could be at night.
TrueBeliever
04-01-2006, 03:51 AM
I definately like the nighttime idea. Other than that, I don't know.
GoldGoblin
04-01-2006, 03:53 AM
What if it was spidey in his red and blue suit,but with it all torn up.
Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2006, 04:28 AM
Silhouette of a black figure swinging through the city, then very fast up to and past the camera as the figure is revealed as Venom.
that would work for me and would certainly make me leave the Cinema salivating for the next movie.
Let's say that Venom does survive...
That could be be quite cool. Especially if they only reveal it at the end of the sequence. His head whips around to face the camera, revealing the true identity of the shadowy figure!
Awesome. But unlikely...
Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2006, 04:28 AM
What if it was spidey in his red and blue suit,but with it all torn up.
That could also look cool. Especially in the rain.
Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2006, 04:29 AM
I definately like the nighttime idea. Other than that, I don't know.
Me too. It hasn't been done yet either (not for the end sequence I mean).
black_dust
04-01-2006, 05:09 AM
hes going to swing into a brick wall
Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2006, 05:14 AM
hes going to swing into a brick wall
Badum-tsh!!
black_dust
04-01-2006, 05:27 AM
Badum-tsh!!
Thank you thank you! I`ll be here all week!
The Kid
04-01-2006, 06:24 AM
the sillouette thing is too batmanish. And Begins even stole the whole flying into the camera thing from spidey 1, that thief of a movie.
It should end on a kiss under a moonlit nighte or something romantic since it's all about a girl. And I remember a comicbook cover like that once. He should be kissing Betty and not Kirstine.
Arcturus
04-01-2006, 08:24 AM
Let's say that Venom does survive...
That could be be quite cool. Especially if they only reveal it at the end of the sequence. His head whips around to face the camera, revealing the true identity of the shadowy figure!
Awesome. But unlikely...
I like this idea, it would be amazing to see. But didn't THC say Topher Grace becomes a villain at the end? So if we were to follow that path, wouldn't the black suit of found it's way to Brock at the end? Why would Venom be dead already in SM-3? Or did I miss something?
:confused:
Anyways, I would like to see another ending with Spider-Man swinging like in the previous two films, maybe at nighttime or something.
ultimatefan
04-01-2006, 08:48 AM
I would like it to be a little different this time, imagine Spidey swinging to go save MJ or Gwen from Venom or GG2 and then "to be continued..." what a cliffhanger...
Quentin Beck
04-01-2006, 08:50 AM
Yeah he could be swinging to save Gwen from GG2 on the Bridge. :eek:
JokerNick
04-01-2006, 09:23 AM
if venom survives, they should show him swinging through the city at night, then pan back to spiderman, standing ontop a building watching venom swing, then all a sudden, spiderman jumps off the building towards the camera like he's going after him.......... role credits,
Cmill216
04-01-2006, 09:52 AM
I like the idea of Venom, but that will never happen; we know it has to be Spidey.
The nighttime idea is a great one, so is the idea of him in the rain.
Visionary
04-01-2006, 10:41 AM
I like the idea of either a nighttime or nighttime/rain web-swinging ending.
Arcturus
04-01-2006, 10:47 AM
The ending should have Spider-Man swinging like the previous films, but this time at night, and then after all is said and done, pan down to some rundown building and we can just make a dark form standing in the window, with two large, souless white eyes watching Spider-Man. And then just then, under the moon light we can make out an evil grin forming.
Or not.
Badger
04-01-2006, 11:01 AM
I'm with Venom4Life on this. The only difference would be to see a full shot of Venom; just for a couple seconds and then the credits role.
miller man
04-01-2006, 11:10 AM
I like this idea, it would be amazing to see. But didn't THC say Topher Grace becomes a villain at the end? So if we were to follow that path, wouldn't the black suit of found it's way to Brock at the end? Why would Venom be dead already in SM-3? Or did I miss something?
:confused:
Anyways, I would like to see another ending with Spider-Man swinging like in the previous two films, maybe at nighttime or something.
Yea, THC did say that. Thing is, everyone involved has been insisting that the movie will not end with a cliffhanger, I guess in the possibility that this will be it for the Raimi, Maguire era. I do think we'll only see Venom for just a few minutes until he dies. I think it'll be one of those things that'll be such a climactic moment for all fans that it would have to only be brief. Think of the end of "Swamp Thing", if you've ever seen it. Something like that. :spidey:
Alexia Dark
04-01-2006, 11:13 AM
I think it should be more like SM2... where the scene before when we see the symbiote bond with Eddie, leaving one to make up his or her own mind about what ensues... then a final scene, either MJ and Peter getting married, or Peter at Ben or Harry's grave, or something like that, then a shot just at the break of dawn, from the darkness into the light as he swings onto a skyscraper and then into the screen. Damn, I can see this in my head... my own cinematic brilliance gives me chills :p.
spiderfan09
04-01-2006, 12:32 PM
What if they had spidey swinging with MJ after a wedding? IDK where the hell they are planning on going with this series, but if this is indeed the last one, I say end it with a scene between the newlyweds....
Cmill216
04-01-2006, 12:42 PM
What if they had spidey swinging with MJ after a wedding? IDK where the hell they are planning on going with this series, but if this is indeed the last one, I say end it with a scene between the newlyweds....
Darn good idea. :up:
Murder
04-01-2006, 01:47 PM
I think it should be more like SM2... where the scene before when we see the symbiote bond with Eddie, leaving one to make up his or her own mind about what ensues... then a final scene, either MJ and Peter getting married, or Peter at Ben or Harry's grave, or something like that, then a shot just at the break of dawn, from the darkness into the light as he swings onto a skyscraper and then into the screen. Damn, I can see this in my head... my own cinematic brilliance gives me chills :p. I see what your seeing in your head. I would like that. Cheers
RaZaTrOn
04-01-2006, 02:09 PM
I think Spidey should be swinging as usually and then Venom (if he is introduced at the end) tackling Spidey out of the air or Spidey lands on a buliding then swings off but instead of following Spidey it shows us Venom sitting above where Spidey was grinning.
if venom survives, they should show him swinging through the city at night, then pan back to spiderman, standing ontop a building watching venom swing, then all a sudden, spiderman jumps off the building towards the camera like he's going after him.......... role credits,
that sounds awesome:D :up: :D
Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2006, 06:41 PM
Darn good idea. :up:
Yeah, I like this too.
Spidey doing the final swing carrying a beautiful woman (whichever one it is after the events of the film...) is a great idea. A good way to end the trilogy.
fangrl06
04-01-2006, 06:43 PM
Whichever one it maybe? Spidey's not a pimp! No matter how hard he tries...
Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2006, 06:45 PM
Whichever one it maybe? Spidey's not a pimp! No matter how hard he tries...
Oh yes he is.
fangrl06
04-01-2006, 06:47 PM
^You know this for a fact I take it...
Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2006, 06:48 PM
Yes, of course.
Yellow Cyclone
04-01-2006, 06:49 PM
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4313/879a2736bd5305fdcc2dee3e26dddd.gif
fangrl06
04-01-2006, 06:50 PM
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4313/879a2736bd5305fdcc2dee3e26dddd.gif
whoa...
Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2006, 06:50 PM
Is he drunk?
Alexia Dark
04-01-2006, 06:56 PM
That thing is flawed... Spidey would break that window easily. Even *coughstupidinsertpreferedinsultherecough* JMS has shown that Spidey can break any glass.
Crimson Dynamo
04-01-2006, 06:57 PM
Fisk is there, which says to me that it's toughened glass.
Spidey-Jason
04-01-2006, 11:10 PM
Let's say that Venom does survive...
That could be be quite cool. Especially if they only reveal it at the end of the sequence. His head whips around to face the camera, revealing the true identity of the shadowy figure!
Awesome. But unlikely...
I support this idea:spidey:
TheSlag
04-01-2006, 11:22 PM
Depending on what happens, it will probably be Spidey swing with MJ in his arms
Hopefully, she'll be a limp rag doll.. as in SNAPPP... *dead* :D
Seriously... with the ending I expect to SM3, I doubt we will get a ending swinging scene, by either Spidey or Venom.
Spider-Bite
04-01-2006, 11:26 PM
I don't. No matter what happens. Even if MJ is dead, we will still see that, and the music will create the unspoken feeling that no matter what happens you pick yourself up, count your losses, and keep going. You do the job.
TheSlag
04-01-2006, 11:28 PM
I don't. No matter what happens. Even if MJ is dead, we will still see that, and the music will create the unspoken feeling that no matter what happens you pick yourself up, count your losses, and keep going. You do the job.
Man... would that be anti-climatic for her death, and the impact it would have on Peter. :down
Let's see, possibly MJ might be killed, probably Harry will die... and some still expect Spidey/Peter to be webswinging away at the end... NOT me. ;)
That would be a downer for me.
Spider-Bite
04-01-2006, 11:36 PM
only if it was one second after their deaths. it would not be anti climatic at all. if anything I think it adds more to it. There will be some level of closure to everything that happens before the movie ends. MOst likely if this movie has a tragic ending, we will get another 10 or 15 minutes of a mourning stage of the story. We would see Peter going about his daily life in a depressed daze. Most likely we'll see him talking to Uncle Ben at his gravesite, and after he's done talking he will walk away, and then it will cutt to the final swing.
I honestly believe there will NEVER be a spider-man movie without a final swing.
TheSlag
04-01-2006, 11:39 PM
only if it was one second after their deaths. it would not be anti climatic at all. if anything I think it adds more to it. There will be some level of closure to everything that happens before the movie ends. MOst likely if this movie has a tragic ending, we will get another 10 or 15 minutes of a mourning stage of the story. We would see Peter going about his daily life in a depressed daze. Most likely we'll see him talking to Uncle Ben at his gravesite, and after he's done talking he will walk away, and then it will cutt to the final swing.
I honestly believe there will NEVER be a spider-man movie without a final swing.
I don't. And I hope your wrong... cause that would drastically take away from the impact of the only girl he's ever loved's death. :down
And if you think Harry may die at the end of SM3... it would really be a downer for Spider-Man/Peter to simply carry on (IMO).
Spider-Bite
04-01-2006, 11:45 PM
I think the only way they would not do a final swing is if in the last scene peter is alone in his room contemplating whether or not to be spider-man anymore. but I don't know if they would repeat that. I think you probably wont feel that way when you see it.
TheSlag
04-01-2006, 11:50 PM
I think the only way they would not do a final swing is if in the last scene peter is alone in his room contemplating whether or not to be spider-man anymore. but I don't know if they would repeat that. I think you probably wont feel that way when you see it.
Final scene... Graveside visit. :up: :up: *wipes away a tear... I can only imagine how good that COULD be. ;)
50cent
04-02-2006, 12:01 AM
i think spidey will be swingin in his red and blue costume since he got rid of the black one a few days earlier and you will see venom following slowly behind him...that would be sweet
hk_spyke
04-02-2006, 12:03 AM
The ending should have Spider-Man swinging like the previous films, but this time at night, and then after all is said and done, pan down to some rundown building and we can just make a dark form standing in the window, with two large, souless white eyes watching Spider-Man. And then just then, under the moon light we can make out an evil grin forming.
Or not.
something like that would be cool. but on a roof top not in a window
TheSlag
04-02-2006, 12:03 AM
I hope we only get a tease shot of Venom at the end... nothing more. That would be a great cliff hanger ending, and make it seem forever for SM4 to come out and give us some better looks at Venom... swinging and otherwise.
Pickle-El
04-02-2006, 12:23 AM
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about -
The end of the film, the final sequence; the money shot that has our hero swinging dynamically through the city.
I can't think of another film that has such a sequence, and it's become a trademark for the series.
.
I believe this is another thing Raimi 'borrowed' from a certain other movie and the way the films ended.....I'll let you figure the rest out. It's not difficult to picture exactly what I'm talking about that inspired the 'final swing' for Spidey's closing scene. ;)
Spider-Bite
04-02-2006, 12:29 AM
I believe this is another thing Raimi 'borrowed' from a certain other movie and the way the films ended.....I'll let you figure the rest out. It's not difficult to picture exactly what I'm talking about that inspired the 'final swing' for Spidey's closing scene. ;)
that's just the way movies are made nowdays. Kind of like the final warp drive on every episode of Star Trek. You hear the music note and the ship goes into warp. that's not copying SuperMan anymore than it's copying Jurassic Park by using CGI.
Frenzy
04-02-2006, 12:28 PM
Fantastic ideas guys - all of them, and I know what you are all saying about Venom swinging - it would be awesome ;) but...
As dark as this movie will be I'd like to see Spidey back in the red & blue and swinging better than ever at the end, showing that no villain can ever keep this hero down for long :)
I'd also like SM3 to finish with a narraction over the swinging like he's moving onto to something bigger and better for SM4 (if there is one) ;)
Spidey-Sean
04-02-2006, 01:07 PM
I'd like it at night, raining with flashes of lightning that show spidey for a second or so, or whenever he passes some other source of light, sillhouetted as the light source fades out. Also, I want it a little longer than the normal 30 seconds!
Silverstein
04-02-2006, 04:31 PM
What if the final scene isn't a swing, but a fight? Instead of swinging, instead a bunch of villains come after him, and we see Spidey taking out everyone and doing matrix-esque moves?
dr venture
04-02-2006, 09:28 PM
Let's say that Venom does survive...
That could be be quite cool. Especially if they only reveal it at the end of the sequence. His head whips around to face the camera, revealing the true identity of the shadowy figure!
Awesome. But unlikely...
that would make for a great scene
dr venture
04-02-2006, 09:37 PM
The ending should have Spider-Man swinging like the previous films, but this time at night, and then after all is said and done, pan down to some rundown building and we can just make a dark form standing in the window, with two large, souless white eyes watching Spider-Man. And then just then, under the moon light we can make out an evil grin forming.
Or not.
another good idea
sag002
04-02-2006, 09:38 PM
It could also show just a shadow swinging, and then his mouth opens into a demented smile.
Crimson Dynamo
04-02-2006, 10:21 PM
What if the final scene isn't a swing, but a fight? Instead of swinging, instead a bunch of villains come after him, and we see Spidey taking out everyone and doing matrix-esque moves?
Bad idea. Matrix-esque? You're kidding right?
Spencer9
04-02-2006, 10:28 PM
KILL VENOM lol. Just have Spiderman swinging like normal after beating Venom, Sandman and losing his best friend Harry.
Cmill216
04-02-2006, 10:38 PM
KILL VENOM lol. Just have Spiderman swinging like normal after beating Venom, Sandman and losing his best friend Harry.
I don't think he's gonna be normal after that. :D
I like the rain ideas from earlier, though. :up:
Crimson Dynamo
04-02-2006, 10:39 PM
Me too.
Spencer9
04-02-2006, 10:45 PM
I meant normal like normal costume.. not happy go lucky peter
inspecta51
04-02-2006, 11:00 PM
I believe this is another thing Raimi 'borrowed' from a certain other movie and the way the films ended.....I'll let you figure the rest out. It's not difficult to picture exactly what I'm talking about that inspired the 'final swing' for Spidey's closing scene. ;)
Pickle is right. Superman did this in all 4 films, and you can bet your sweet arse it will be done in the next supes movie too.
Spidey will have a final swing, its a staple of the series. The only difference between this and spideys is that sam had the good sense to make the swing sequence different for each movie.Whereas the supes was the same exact cut of him swinging over the earth, looking away, then looking at the camera, smiling, then flying off.
This movie will have a final swing.
No there should not be any villians in the background. Makes it campy, like horror flicks that allude to the eventual new villian for the sequel.
<borkis>
04-02-2006, 11:59 PM
Surely Venom will have been defeated by this point?
If Venom is created and defeated in the course of *one* movie, that would be horribly lame.
I think it's much more likely that Spdiey will have to deal with Sandman, Harry and the suit itself for most of the movie and it won't be until the very end that venom is even created... setting up a Venom storyline for Spidey 4.
dr venture
04-03-2006, 06:17 AM
^ i agree
Spencer9
04-03-2006, 07:17 AM
I don't... I think if we see him he will fight and die. Raimi loves killing everyone off. In alot of interviews they are saying no cliffhangers thats why I doubt it will be a Venom cliffhanger
Frenzy
04-03-2006, 07:30 AM
If Venom is created and defeated in the course of *one* movie, that would be horribly lame.
I think it's much more likely that Spdiey will have to deal with Sandman, Harry and the suit itself for most of the movie and it won't be until the very end that venom is even created... setting up a Venom storyline for Spidey 4.
:up: :up: :up: TRUE
ElectroFlare
04-03-2006, 08:21 AM
Slag, I don't see how the final swing would be anti-climatic. You can make a web sling scene depressing...
Perhaps he's at the grave site...and then swings away for the final sequence...
Or maybe something similiar to the poster of the black costume that was released?(In blue-and-red, of course)
Cmill216
04-03-2006, 08:42 AM
Slag, I don't see how the final swing would be anti-climatic. You can make a web sling scene depressing...
Perhaps he's at the grave site...and then swings away for the final sequence...
And you could make it slowmo to contrast with the exhilariting speed of the first two swings.
James"007"Bond
04-03-2006, 10:32 AM
I dont care about the final swing that much because I know on a choreographed level it'll be great but lets hope it doesn't look as cartoony as it did in sm2. My concern is that I dont want to wait till the end of the movie to see a half-decent swinging sequence. In both spidey movies, throughout the course of the movie, the swinging has been genrically boring, I want to see some jaw-dropping sequeces in this movie.
Lucky6
04-03-2006, 10:46 AM
I like the night and night/raining ideas alot.
how about Spidey swinging in his red & blues towards a graveyard, stands infront of a grave, camera closes in on the name to reveal who it is(maybe even harry), Spidey takes off his mask, puts a rose on their grave, and as he does this maybe him speaking or a narration, walks away, saying something like "my life will never be the same" *cuts to credits* OR swings off onto a rooftop looking over new york (like that SM2 poster) OR swings off into the dark night. :)
that would be my vision, but very possibly would never happen :( lol
Spider-Bite
04-03-2006, 12:50 PM
I dont care about the final swing that much because I know on a choreographed level it'll be great but lets hope it doesn't look as cartoony as it did in sm2. My concern is that I dont want to wait till the end of the movie to see a half-decent swinging sequence. In both spidey movies, throughout the course of the movie, the swinging has been genrically boring, I want to see some jaw-dropping sequeces in this movie.
I thought the final swing pretty much looked how it would if spider-man was a real person.
James"007"Bond
04-04-2006, 05:37 AM
I thought the final swing pretty much looked how it would if spider-man was a real person.
Not in sm2.
The final swing in sm1 was graphically superior to sm2's. It looked more fluid and surprisingly more realistic. sm2's just looked liked a cut scene from a spider-man ps2 game.
Crimson Dynamo
04-04-2006, 06:16 AM
Not in sm2.
The final swing in sm1 was graphically superior to sm2's. It looked more fluid and surprisingly more realistic. sm2's just looked liked a cut scene from a spider-man ps2 game.
I actually agree with this. The crappy CG helicopters helped destroy the reality too.
Stupid helicopters.
Odin's Lapdog
04-04-2006, 06:23 AM
instead of at night time, why not just on the cusp of dawn so he gets to see the sun rising while doing his thing...
probably less linear swinging
interaction with the frame of a constructed building would be nice... also interaction with non stationary objects (i would have loved for him to encorporate webslinging off the helicopters or perhaps sticking to the bottom of one for a while in the last film).
more dynamic comic book esque leg movement and body flicking, he looked like he was putting way WAY too much effort into it in the last film, far more effort than in the first, it should be effortless.
also going back to what someone said earlier about a ripped costume, i think it would be nice, so we can see the definition and muscle tone of his body while he swings and perhaps also his parts of his facial expression as well, imagine watching his stomach going taut or his arms tightening up at specific parts of his movement. even as far as seeing his muscles contracting when his web fluid duct is being used (it's the little details that make it worthwhile).
for the love of god put a sommersault in there inbetween a swing or something, it's only happened once in the last two films (right at the beginning of the second one which was arguably the weakest of all the swings seen).
perhaps the fact that mary jane was there would be a decent idea (although very obvious to someone trying to keep a low key of their relationship), but i feel if would draw too many parallels to superman and lois' flight in the first superman film.
also small factor such as the speeding up of the swing at the bottom of it and perhaps catching glimpses of left over webbing (come to think of it, the dissolving of spidey's webbing has not yet come into question over the last two films, absolutely shocking).
overall, what i would like to see him do is to hear some danger (let's assume it's right after he's gotten rid of the symbiote and needs to get a new costume) and do the final swing in a worn out battle outfit, so he says to whoever that he needs to go and get some new threads, so he webslings in a battle ruined outfit with muscle tone and facial expressions visible, passed a scene where the rhino (or someone) sees him and thrown a car at him, while still in one fluid motion, he web slings the car, twirls and swings it back to the rhino, continuing to move forward (camera now pans back at rhino where you see the car hitting him and exploding), parker makes his way up to the top of the daily bugle where he's hidden a spare costume, in a bag, he takes it out a mask, wacks it on (indicating he's now in new threads), jumps out of a windown and swings back into the rhino's direction which is where he swings into the camera and the film ends...
that would top the first one, no problem and that's all what we're asking for, something that would top what's come before it...
dark_b
04-04-2006, 06:54 AM
Not in sm2.
The final swing in sm1 was graphically superior to sm2's. It looked more fluid and surprisingly more realistic. sm2's just looked liked a cut scene from a spider-man ps2 game.plus when he starts to swing at the end there are no buildings. so he was swinnginig in the air. didnt make sense.
the helicopters did a very god job to destroy the scene. they looked so fake. i am sure that in the 90's they made more realistic helicopters.
GoldGoblin
04-04-2006, 07:02 AM
What if spidey has MJ with him when he swings this next time.
Silent_Assassin
04-04-2006, 07:21 AM
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7488/21600bcopybcdcopy2is.jpg
Cmill216
04-04-2006, 07:23 AM
What if spidey has MJ with him when he swings this next time.
Someone brought that up earlier. And the more that I think about it, the more I wished THAT would have been the final swing of SM2.
GoldGoblin
04-04-2006, 07:23 AM
Spidey swinging in his torn up red and blue costume with a dead MJ in one arm with it raining and a black cloudy sky.
GoldGoblin
04-04-2006, 07:26 AM
Either way,a happy ending or a sad ending,MJ really should be with him when he swings at the end.
Crimson Dynamo
04-19-2006, 02:23 AM
That'd be cool. Even if she's dead.
Retroman
03-12-2007, 07:29 PM
Sorry to bump up such an old thread but someone on youtube did a great job of combining the final swings from the first two movies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_mT9OjrLbc
Wonder what the third one will be like?
shigsy2003
03-12-2007, 07:35 PM
Well we will probably have Pete and Mj's wedding and then go into the final swing. However they may decide to have Spidey and Mj swinging...OR have Pete and Mj swinging.
I don't know there are too many variables.
BobJM
03-12-2007, 08:27 PM
I want SM3 to end like the rest of the films, with Spider-Man swinging through the city against a bright sky. Adding MJ would be nice.
animexcel
03-12-2007, 09:06 PM
I like the rain and/or night time idea; like Sam Raimi said, "We can't depend on something we've seen before."
SPIDERMAN117
03-12-2007, 09:41 PM
What if its ends like Spider-man Swinging in a thunder storm,Venom Comes Out Of No Where Starts To fight And Spider-man Get Away,While Venom Falls in the Docks,Then Spider-man Stands on one of those Cranes Looking Back And Then Venom Is thrown Out of the water,Then Doc Ock Jumps Out of the water,And Looks At Spider-man Yelling "I got Him" Then right before His Tenacle Hits Venom....the credits role
myfingershurt
03-12-2007, 09:51 PM
What if its ends like Spider-man Swinging in a thunder storm,Venom Comes Out Of No Where Starts To fight And Spider-man Get Away,While Venom Falls in the Docks,Then Spider-man Stands on one of those Cranes Looking Back And Then Venom Is thrown Out of the water,Then Doc Ock Jumps Out of the water,And Looks At Spider-man Yelling "I got Him" Then right before His Tenacle Hits Venom....the credits role
your joking right?
because taht would actually suck.
TheReverend
03-12-2007, 09:56 PM
WOW! You people are so stupid! If anything it will be the most triumphant because he has overcome so much, and for people saying its venom, god you little punks! This is why the internet should not allow kids age 5-15 on it!:cmad:
Spider-Girl™
03-12-2007, 10:55 PM
The question is why would we want to see the final swing in the rain at night. The final swing is triumphant, it signifies that our hero has won. We wouldn't be able to see much of a decent swing at night either.
I don't mean we couldn't see anything, but the final swing is a chance to show off Spidey's acrobatics, and that would be blinded out by the rain or the night or whatever it is people were suggesting. I want a nice noon or evening shot like the first two, to watch Spidey swing off into the sunset.
Kal-El 8
03-12-2007, 10:55 PM
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about -
The end of the film, the final sequence; the money shot that has our hero swinging dynamically through the city.
I can't think of another film that has such a sequence, and it's become a trademark for the series.
http://i2.tinypic.com/spar0n.jpg
I can't wait to see 3, Spidey 2 kicked 1 ass badly
Cristo
03-12-2007, 11:00 PM
It'll probably be Spider-Man swinging with MJ in his arms (alive) with Uncle Ben's words "With great power comes great responsibility. Remember that, Pete. Remember that."
End credits. It doesn't need much more than that.
All this Venom crap and "tragedy" is annoying and it wouldn't appeal to the general public, just desensitized nerds.
Capt Throbberson
03-12-2007, 11:10 PM
It'll probably be Spider-Man swinging with MJ in his arms (alive) with Uncle Ben's words "With great power comes great responsibility. Remember that, Pete. Remember that."
End credits. It doesn't need much more than that.
All this Venom crap and "tragedy" is annoying and it wouldn't appeal to the general public, just desensitized nerds.
That actually sucks more than most of the Venom crap.
Johnny Israel
03-12-2007, 11:13 PM
Perhaps im most delusional..and i know i will not got this. But I would have the movie end with Peter and MJ getting married. After the wedding Peter carries MJ off and they web sling over the city. Closing shot has Them pass a certain building......The Ravencroft Institute.
After the credits we would be treated to some shrink talking to a guard..heres my idea...more or less.
Scene: We have a close up of a doctor with a clipboard walking through some kind of facility and we can tell behind him/her are two guards with someone
Doctor: After they found him, he seems in a state of delusion. Constantly repeating "I know".
Guard 1: But do you want to really put him in the cell with him?
Doctor: Our new patient is clearly in a harmless state, and our favorite resident is kept in restraints. Both will be heavily survailanced.
Scene: The guards push the newest member of Ravenfcroft forward...Revealing Eddie Brock. They open a cell door with a skiny red headed man laughing .
Redheaded man: Whats up Doc? Brought me a new playmate?
Scene: Brock gets lead into the sell
Doctor: Eddie, this is your new cellmate, Cletus Kassidy.
End
wishful thinking....
Cristo
03-12-2007, 11:23 PM
That actually sucks more than most of the Venom crap.
It's a CLEAR ending. It wraps up what was established in the first two films! AND IT'S A HAPPY ENDING (which audiences love).
So, tell me: how exactly does that "suck"? Because you can't watch Spider-Man 3 without the last shot being Venom or Venom-related? Taking that route in the films WOULD suck!
Spider-Girl™
03-13-2007, 12:22 AM
no, the final swing is spideys thing, it should always be just Spidey. When he is doing the final swing, it's almost like it's saying to us, that he will always have a job to do.
I would rather it end with "I'm Spider-man" again then hear " With great power, comes great responsibility, remember that Pete, remember that."
It only sounded good once.
Super-Eddie
03-13-2007, 03:53 AM
How about a swing scene that has Peter and his new wife MJ swinging... then, only noticable to a few people, a small shadow in the background of something jumping and chasing them... Venom returns and slams Peter and MJ into a brick wall and a Venom/Peter fight scene breaks out making a second scene that we get to see Venom fight... MJ is unconcious at first while Peter and Venom exchange moves... Venom gets the upper hand and is on the brink of killing Peter (yet again) by holding him against a wall attempting to choke the life out of him... MJ regains conciousness... she tries to help Peter by throwing a couple bricks at Venom's head... Venom becomes enraged and uses symbiote webbing with his free hand to grab MJ and slams her into a wall, desk or something that could easily kill her because the throw snaps her neck like a toothpick (sorry for the seriously overused simile)... seeing this enrages Peter more than ever and takes control of the fight but loses control over himself and kills Venom... (add mourning scenes and prelude to Spiderman 4 and maybe some credits with good music)
If Venom does die, this is the only way that I (personally) think it should be done. However, I in no way, shape or form advocate the killing of Venom.
Road Warrior
03-13-2007, 04:46 AM
I can't think of another film that has such a sequence, and it's become a trademark for the series.
Not even this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ-yLDL7iXc
Sentinel X
03-13-2007, 05:51 AM
To all the people saying Venom should be doing the final swing: Yes they're right, because Venom is the main charecter of the film and the most important one of the trilogy :whatever:
dark_b
03-13-2007, 05:59 AM
what i like about the end swing is that the camera gous around spidey. and you get the feeling that you are there with him in the air.
singer made a homage to donner.
and it was good. but i never had the feeling that i am flyign with superman.
Naite22
03-13-2007, 09:00 AM
Venom aint gonna do no final swing, dream on!...
And IF Pete and MJ do get married in the end, I see the final scene as a wedding sequence, where they get married on a hill-top (just as Peter mentiones in spidey 2)... And it'll be something small and intimite. No one will be smiling too much, cause Harry will just have passed away, so nothing will be peache-keen!...
I say break that final-swing-sequence in the third... end it with a down to earth, not too "happy" ending, with a small wedding on a mountain, and let us see Peter put that ring on MJ's finger; then end credits!
(ready to get flamed)
Mr Jide
03-13-2007, 09:14 AM
Whoever said venom should do the final swing needs a dirt-ass slap.
The final swing this time round needs to be tad longer and show spidey swinging with more dynamic enthusiasm, incoporating the ricochet style of swinging as part of the choreography. The last swing in sm2 sucked hippo sack, the best so far imo is obviously the last swing in sm1, the closest thing to poetry in motion.
Mr Jide
03-13-2007, 09:17 AM
Venom aint gonna do no final swing, dream on!...
And IF Pete and MJ do get married in the end, I see the final scene as a wedding sequence, where they get married on a hill-top (just as Peter mentiones in spidey 2)... And it'll be something small and intimite. No one will be smiling too much, cause Harry will just have passed away, so nothing will be peache-keen!...
I say break that final-swing-sequence in the third... end it with a down to earth, not too "happy" ending, with a small wedding on a mountain, and let us see Peter put that ring on MJ's finger; then end credits!
(ready to get flamed)
http://www.nalsofmichigan.org/images/Denied.jpg
Eggyman
03-13-2007, 09:18 AM
I agree. SM2's swing was pretty bad compared to how SM1's was. I think the look of it was wrong -- too much swinging above buildings rather than between and beside them. However, I did like the one shot where he swung round a corner, I thought that bit of the swing looked cool in SM2.
dark_b
03-13-2007, 09:31 AM
I agree. SM2's swing was pretty bad compared to how SM1's was. I think the look of it was wrong -- too much swinging above buildings rather than between and beside them. However, I did like the one shot where he swung round a corner, I thought that bit of the swing looked cool in SM2.comes the question where was teh web? he was above teh buildings. no building where the web could be.
Eggyman
03-13-2007, 09:39 AM
Indeed.
Compi716
03-13-2007, 09:43 AM
I think we've already seen the end of the swing. Check the trailer, where Spidey lands in front of an American flag. The final swing ALWAYS (i.e., just Spidey 1 & 2) ends with an American flag. I would not be surprised if the before-mentioned shot is part of the final swing.
dark_b
03-13-2007, 09:49 AM
I think we've already seen the end of the swing. Check the trailer, where Spidey lands in front of an American flag. The final swing ALWAYS (i.e., just Spidey 1 & 2) ends with an American flag. I would not be surprised if the before-mentioned shot is part of the final swing.
i agree because:
-the lightining( sun goes down)
-american flag
-it just screams the end swing.
echostation
03-13-2007, 09:51 AM
it's amazing how there's been no real improvement in the CG doubles over the years... the shots look more numerous and still great, but stll plasticy, no weight/realistic sort of CG shots... The swinging spidey scene in the first film was the only one that came anything close to "reality." The swinging scenes so far in Spidey 3 and what we got in spidey 2 particularly the end haven't really been up to par... it's been a 5 year span, you figure they would make SOME bloody improvements on the digital dobule for spidey
Web Slinging
03-13-2007, 10:15 AM
I'm not a fan of the idea of having MJ with Spidey in the final swinging sequence. I think it would be very difficult to pull off CGI-wise, if nothing else. The one shot that we have seen from this movie of them swinging together is not the greatest, though it is unfinished.
I absolutely agree that nothing has come close to the final swinging sequence as far as the sense of awe and joy that it brings.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t175/Zimma0320/imspiderman.gif
Mr Jide
03-13-2007, 10:29 AM
you both make valid points that please me.
Superman45
03-13-2007, 10:38 AM
Whoever said venom should do the final swing needs a dirt-ass slap.
The final swing this time round needs to be tad longer and show spidey swinging with more dynamic enthusiasm, incoporating the ricochet style of swinging as part of the choreography. The last swing in sm2 sucked hippo sack, the best so far imo is obviously the last swing in sm1, the closest thing to poetry in motion.
I wouldn't say SM2s swing sucked but SM1s was better. I hope SM3 gets close to the ground and maybe passes between the sun and the camera at some point.
Sentinel X
03-13-2007, 04:16 PM
I'm not a fan of the idea of having MJ with Spidey in the final swinging sequence. I think it would be very difficult to pull off CGI-wise, if nothing else. The one shot that we have seen from this movie of them swinging together is not the greatest, though it is unfinished.
I absolutely agree that nothing has come close to the final swinging sequence as far as the sense of awe and joy that it brings.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t175/Zimma0320/imspiderman.gifI LOVE the Spidey 1 swing sequence...it still give me chills when I see the whole thing *feels chills*
And that sequence is much better than SM2's imo. In part two he not as graceful as he is in this one...he doesnt even do any cool acrobatic tricks, he just veers off to the side every now and then
Mr Jide
03-13-2007, 04:25 PM
I wouldn't say SM2s swing sucked but SM1s was better. I hope SM3 gets close to the ground and maybe passes between the sun and the camera at some point.
Nah, I thought it sucked, from the choreography to the animation :oldrazz:
Black Spiderman
03-14-2007, 12:20 PM
Someone post a clip of SM2s swing so I can compare. I honestly forget what the last swing looks like.
Naite22
03-14-2007, 01:36 PM
^ MJ: "Go get em tiger".... and out the window he goes... can you remember/picture it now:)???
Capt Throbberson
03-14-2007, 04:13 PM
It's a CLEAR ending. It wraps up what was established in the first two films! AND IT'S A HAPPY ENDING (which audiences love).
So, tell me: how exactly does that "suck"? Because you can't watch Spider-Man 3 without the last shot being Venom or Venom-related? Taking that route in the films WOULD suck!
I never said I wanted Venom in the final swing, I just said I thought your idea was bad. The happy ending route isn't going to work since
Harry Dies. I'd rather have the swing have something to do with him.
Spider-ManHero12
03-14-2007, 04:45 PM
I think the final swing will be the best of them all. now the first two films hand awesome final swings that blew me away but because this is the third film I'm thinking there will be a very epic final swing scene into the sun set. what I loved about the first two final swings is that they both really touched what spidey does in the comics in terms of web-swinging and I just hope that continues with this film and I think it will.
Sean Adisano
03-14-2007, 04:48 PM
the 2nd final swing was good, but nowhere near as great as the first one!!! i'm hoping the third will be par with the first one, but i don't think any final swing will ever beat spidey 1 in my opinion.
Sean Adisano
03-14-2007, 04:48 PM
double post...woopsie-doodle :O
Retroman
03-14-2007, 09:15 PM
Someone post a clip of SM2s swing so I can compare. I honestly forget what the last swing looks like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_mT9OjrLbc
Retroman
03-14-2007, 09:20 PM
the 2nd final swing was good, but nowhere near as great as the first one!!! i'm hoping the third will be par with the first one, but i don't think any final swing will ever beat spidey 1 in my opinion.
I agree! The first one made me goosebumpy.:ninja:
Spidey-Sean
03-14-2007, 10:47 PM
The problem with the second swing was that it looked like Spidey was being "pulled" through the scenery if you know what I mean. For example, watch the part where he is whipping around the corner after he does the initial flip, if you look closely, he starts moving towards where his webline is aimed before it is even cast. The momentum he shows doesn't seem to fit which direction he's going, but for Spidey 1, the last scene was great. He looked like he was moving himself around, not shooting weblines and being pulled by some unknown force.
I am Batman
03-14-2007, 10:49 PM
it's amazing how there's been no real improvement in the CG doubles over the years... the shots look more numerous and still great, but stll plasticy, no weight/realistic sort of CG shots... The swinging spidey scene in the first film was the only one that came anything close to "reality." The swinging scenes so far in Spidey 3 and what we got in spidey 2 particularly the end haven't really been up to par... it's been a 5 year span, you figure they would make SOME bloody improvements on the digital dobule for spidey
I totally agree. I have three problems with CG Spider:
1. Looks fake compared to final swing Spidey from the first movie
2. Sometimes the poses and movements look weird/unrealistic
3. Doesn't look like it has weight; when it swings it doesn't look like it's being pulled down properly
I seriously hope their rectify this for the next movie. The first Spider-man had the best looking Spidey in their final swing, it looked real, it's movements looked normal and fluidic, and the body seemed to fall properly. The second looked like crap. Hopefully third time's a charm.
XXTBWCXX
03-14-2007, 10:50 PM
Since spidey won't be wearing the symbiote by then,and since Venom will be dead,spidey will have his red and blue suit.For the background,it could be at night.
I agree with GoldGoblin...we've seen Spidey swing during the day in both movies...seeing Spider-Man make his last swing in nighttime will be good...and people should stop saying 'At the end of S-M 3, they should show Venom ontop of a roof watching him from afar'...
Black Spiderman
03-14-2007, 11:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_mT9OjrLbc
Thats not near as good as the first swing.
dark_b
03-15-2007, 03:55 AM
I totally agree. I have three problems with CG Spider:
1. Looks fake compared to final swing Spidey from the first movie
2. Sometimes the poses and movements look weird/unrealistic
3. Doesn't look like it has weight; when it swings it doesn't look like it's being pulled down properly
I seriously hope their rectify this for the next movie. The first Spider-man had the best looking Spidey in their final swing, it looked real, it's movements looked normal and fluidic, and the body seemed to fall properly. The second looked like crap. Hopefully third time's a charm.not only at teh end but throuth the whole movie. and all the swinging that i saw from spidey 3....its the same problem. like he is a feather.
and this has nothign to do with the comic book genre and fantasy. if you have spidey in new york where people have weight than you also need to give him weight.
November Rain
03-15-2007, 05:53 AM
the final swing will be a pile of toss, the sooner people realise this, the sooner you can all sleep better at night.
it's clear that their idea of improvements are going in the wrong direction.
sure the action scenes seem to be improving but at a detrimental cost to the web slinging, meh
Mr Jide
03-15-2007, 06:07 AM
I've never been too happy with the web slinging, period. The only time it looked good was at the end of the 1st movie and when spidey was chasing after the train. However, during the 7minute clip, when peter, thank God was finally shown swining with both arms, showed a lot of potential but still looked kind of hammy. The web slinging needs a major overhaul, I mean seriously, after 2 movies in the bag, you'd think they had it nailed by now....and if we have seen bits of the last swing sequence for sm3, then I have a stong feeling it may suck. The last swing in sm2 was just......a sin.
VenomOwnz
03-15-2007, 06:08 AM
I would be happy with if they did use Venom at the end of the movie instead of the swing seeing that they did say something about leaving something open at the end and about a cliff hanger at Comic Con. I would prefer to see Venom to apparently "die" Brock that is then to see as Spiderman swings off victorious like in the first 2 the camera to go back down to a barley alive brock and symboite crawling back to him and to rejoin with him. Seeing that the only way for Brock to survive is with the symboite and it with him. and then show Venom still alive at the end.:sym:
November Rain
03-15-2007, 06:17 AM
I've never been too happy with the web slinging, period. The only time it looked good was at the end of the 1st movie and when spidey was chasing after the train. However, during the 7minute clip, when peter, thank God was finally shown swining with both arms, showed a lot of potential but still looked kind of hammy. The web slinging needs a major overhaul, I mean seriously, after 2 movies in the bag, you'd think they had it nailed by now....and if we have seen bits of the last swing sequence for sm3, then I have a stong feeling it may suck. The last swing in sm2 was just......a sin.there's also that edited sequence just after the bank sequence that is actually really pleasing to the eye, why they cut that, only god knows...
the swinging seen in the harry fight was pretty aweful, his legs were no where to be seen, deadweights and his style had completely changed from the previous films, which will then re-change once he's in his costume. I would wish they made it consistent.
the problem with movie makers is that they have a problem and get something right but have a desire to tinker with it more and more until they undo all their original hardwork
i mean simply look at the mtv spidey series and the best episodes of the 90s animated series (turning point, armed and dangerous), movie spidey will NEVER move like that, and there's no real reason for it...
dark_b
03-15-2007, 06:22 AM
there's also that edited sequence just after the bank sequence that is actually really pleasing to the eye, why they cut that, only god knows...
the swinging seen in the harry fight was pretty aweful, his legs were no where to be seen, deadweights and his style had completely changed from the previous films, which will then re-change once he's in his costume. I would wish they made it consistent.
the problem with movie makers is that they have a problem and get something right but have a desire to tinker with it more and more until they undo all their original hardwork
i mean simply look at the mtv spidey series and the best episodes of the 90s animated series (turning point, armed and dangerous), movie spidey will NEVER move like that, and there's no real reason for it...what are you talking about :wow:
November Rain
03-15-2007, 06:30 AM
you know he drops off aunt may and all those crazy girls are going 'save me save me'
then he does a lil swing sequence...
i've got a longer version of it on a pirate disc, I also have a variation of the 'I want spiderman' swing when he gets his costume back and it then you find out its a reflection in ock's eyes...
and who says pirate copies are all bad...
:o
dark_b
03-15-2007, 06:43 AM
you know he drops off aunt may and all those crazy girls are going 'save me save me'
then he does a lil swing sequence...
i've got a longer version of it on a pirate disc, I also have a variation of the 'I want spiderman' swing when he gets his costume back and it then you find out its a reflection in ock's eyes...
and who says pirate copies are all bad...
:odude are you sure that this was not in the theater?
i saw at home teh swing from aunt may and i also saw when he swings from JJ and then we see ocks reflection.
November Rain
03-15-2007, 06:45 AM
*sigh*
edited doesn't always mean completely taken out, it can refer to being shortened as well ya know...
:o
besides the second one is a different swing altogether...similar to the way that the footage of venom is now different to the comic con one.
dark_b
03-15-2007, 06:46 AM
*sigh*
edited doesn't mean completely taken out, it can refer to being shortened as well ya know...
:o
besides the second one is a different swing altogether...similar to the way that the footage of venom is now different to the comic con one.i think the first one was made only for the teaser.
November Rain
03-15-2007, 06:50 AM
if this was a teaser that starts off with peter and mj talking in a cafe then yep
Secret_Riddle
03-17-2007, 04:17 PM
I would like it to be the same as the first 2, its a trademark, dont screw with what works.
Untilteld
03-17-2007, 04:24 PM
What if the swing in 2 was a cliffhanger to like Sandman?
spidermania23
03-17-2007, 07:11 PM
Spiderman swings off at night to think about his future
and soon we see Venom watching as he swings and sinisterly smile
and then he jumps off a building
wompa1
03-17-2007, 07:14 PM
I think it would be great, just for a laugh, if Spidey swung into the side of a Daily Bugle truck.
PS. Mr. 7000: The second movie's final swing was amazing. Idiot.
Tempest19
03-17-2007, 07:14 PM
Spider-Man swings off, holding Mary Jane.
Eternalzero
03-17-2007, 07:24 PM
Spider-Man swings off, holding Mary Jane.
Dammit, I knew that would be it.
This really is the last Spider-man movie...
Spider-ManHero12
03-17-2007, 07:31 PM
Spider-Man swings off, holding Mary Jane. thats cool. Spidey swinging with mj into the sunset with the spidey theme playing.
lordofthenerds
03-17-2007, 07:46 PM
Spider-Man swings off, holding Mary Jane.
This perhaps?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/OASVstar/Image35.jpg
Tempest19
03-17-2007, 07:48 PM
No, I doubt it, it was after the battle royale- (aprox. two scenes later)...
Maboroshi
03-17-2007, 08:00 PM
I do enjoy those last scenes. No idea what it should be, though! But if this is the last movie, it should be twice as long as the one from 2, with a lot more acrobatics, and just grander in general. Lots of sunlight and shininess would probably be fitting, as the general tone of the movie beforehand would be dark. Maybe end the scene with him swinging into his apartments window with Mary Jane standing there waiting for him.
(STOOGES FOREVER!):cwink:
Secret_Riddle
03-17-2007, 08:13 PM
how many awesom aerial tricks can a spider do when hes hauling his girlfriend along?
lordofthenerds
03-17-2007, 08:15 PM
Dammit, I knew that would be it.
This really is the last Spider-man movie...
Well, this would imply that there would be no more problems between Peter and MJ, thus meaning that the center of these stories (MJ and Peter's romace) would be concluded. However, they still could conclude other essential parts of the series such as Aunt May's death and complete Doctor Conner's character to make another sequel.
Spider-Girl™
03-17-2007, 08:36 PM
I just don't see it, in the book, yea he can swing off with Mary Jane, but Secret Riddle's avatar is what I believe is part of or the end of the final swing.
And WHY OH WHY would we want a night time swing? Like Maboroshi said, the entire movie was dark, so it is only fitting to do another daytime shot for the swing. No Venom, NO. He's dead, get over it.
Sean Adisano
03-17-2007, 08:38 PM
I just don't see it, in the book, yea he can swing off with Mary Jane, but Secret Riddle's avatar is what I believe is part of or the end of the final swing.
And WHY OH WHY would we want a night time swing? Like Maboroshi said, the entire movie was dark, so it is only fitting to do another daytime shot for the swing. No Venom, NO. He's dead, get over it.
wow :wow: Spider-Girl telling how it is!
Spider-Girl™
03-17-2007, 09:40 PM
I guess I am just having a long saturday lol...
SpideyFan85
03-17-2007, 10:24 PM
From what I understand, the swing with MJ in his arms that we have pics of is from the Battle Royale... The final shot will be him and MJ in a different place during the day... Just what I've come to understand from the Novelization spoilers...
jbonifac
03-17-2007, 10:29 PM
i have a really bad feeling about this final swing sequence...it seems that it will look really fake (hopefully it doesnt) because the second one had okay cgi at the end, but having to do two cgi characters now is just insane...it might turn out looking really fake..and wut hell is spiderman gonna do the whole time; is he just gonna swing with one hand (kinda boring), but at the same time it does emphasize that mj and pete are back together and in good terms
Bnightwing
03-17-2007, 11:17 PM
i think they should " kill venom" and the rest of the time u think venoms dead (if ur a geek u know he didnt die due to radiation or heat) but at the end it shows a speck of venom alive if you know what i mean
Web Slinging
03-17-2007, 11:34 PM
I think it would be great, just for a laugh, if Spidey swung into the side of a Daily Bugle truck.
PS. Mr. 7000: The second movie's final swing was amazing. Idiot.
While I don't hate the second movie's final swing by any means, you have to admit that in comparison to the first movie, the difference in quality is rather noticeable. Also, you should probably refrain from calling people idiots in the same post that you say that Spidey should swing into the side of a Daily Bugle truck. I'm sure someone could use your ideas for Epic Movie 2 though.
This perhaps?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/OASVstar/Image35.jpg
i have a really bad feeling about this final swing sequence...it seems that it will look really fake (hopefully it doesnt) because the second one had okay cgi at the end, but having to do two cgi characters now is just insane...it might turn out looking really fake..and wut hell is spiderman gonna do the whole time; is he just gonna swing with one hand (kinda boring), but at the same time it does emphasize that mj and pete are back together and in good terms
I very much agree. I understand the need to emphasize the togetherness of MJ and Peter, however I think it's going to be tough to pull off a final swing with the both of them. That picture is exactly what I mean. I've never expected perfect CGI or anything like that, however it is extremely noticeable there. If the camera is as close as its been for the final swing in the first two movies, it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. I'm a sucker for seeing the flips and swoops through traffic, but I suppose I could live without the acrobatics. Here's hoping they can do it.
SpideyFan85
03-17-2007, 11:38 PM
^^^ That's not the final swing... The final swing is after Pete and MJ dance at the Jazz Club... read the Novelization thread if you don't believe me...
Web Slinging
03-17-2007, 11:40 PM
I'm deliberately not reading the novelization thread, however I know that's not during the final swing. The point is how MJ looks when they swing together period.
Mr Jide
03-18-2007, 10:54 AM
PS. Mr. 7000: The second movie's final swing was amazing. Idiot.
Was it? Says who? You? Pfft. What ever. You call me an idiot because you don't share my opinion? Oh, the irony :whatever:. The final swing in sm2 sucked, period imo and if you dont like it, go f--k yourself and look, you gutless bastard, keep my name out of your damn mouth, coz you aint got **** to say, prick :o
d1venom
03-18-2007, 01:01 PM
I like the idea of peter holding mj during the final swing. I think that would be cool and it would be a good way to end the trilogy, if it is indeed the end. It wouldn't have to be after their wedding or whatever just as long as he is holding her.
Spider-ManHero12
03-18-2007, 01:38 PM
I'm thinking the shot where spidey jumps right next to a flag pole is spider-man day. I mean they aren't going to reveal the final swing sequence in atrailer, they didn't reveal the final swing of spidey2 in the spidey2 trailer. as for the final swing being at night now that wouldn't happen at all. If he is going to web-swing at night then thats okay by me but I think peter and mj might swing away when morning rises or at sunset to give it a more epic feel. this film seems to have alot of dramatic momentes betwen peter, MJ, and Gwen so yeah it's nice to have a romantic type ending for spidey3.
Black Goblin
03-18-2007, 02:14 PM
^^^ That's not the final swing... The final swing is after Pete and MJ dance at the Jazz Club... read the Novelization thread if you don't believe me...
That makes no sense at all.
At the jazz club is where Peter goes out with Gwen and the pushes MJ.....
Tempest19
03-18-2007, 02:19 PM
That's earlier in the film... at the end they go back to the Jazz Club... that's where MJ works... and that scene is carried over because it mentions that some that were there the night of the attack are a bit jumpy around him.
And I can guarantee that the flag pole is Spider-Man day.
Black Goblin
03-18-2007, 02:22 PM
That's earlier in the film... at the end they go back to the Jazz Club... that's where MJ works... and that scene is carried over because it mentions that some that were there the night of the attack are a bit jumpy around him.
And I can guarantee that the flag pole is Spider-Man day.
Oh she works there...That makes sense
Mr Jide
03-18-2007, 02:33 PM
I'm thinking the shot where spidey jumps right next to a flag pole is spider-man day. I mean they aren't going to reveal the final swing sequence in atrailer, they didn't reveal the final swing of spidey2 in the spidey2 trailer.
Your right, it wasn't shown in sm2's trailer BUT it was definately shown in sm1's trailer, so it can go any way.
jbonifac
03-18-2007, 02:39 PM
That's earlier in the film... at the end they go back to the Jazz Club... that's where MJ works... and that scene is carried over because it mentions that some that were there the night of the attack are a bit jumpy around him.
And I can guarantee that the flag pole is Spider-Man day.
i hope ur right about the flag pole...not that i am against the american flag or wutever...it just seems too corny to put that at the final swing:yay:
Tempest19
03-18-2007, 02:49 PM
They didn't show Spidey exactly at the flag poles- but, Eddie does reference it in a later scene... so, I know that the flagpole is there- I don't know exactly when because I don't recall the book mentioning the flagpole before that point in time- but, I can guarantee that it is not in the final swing- and it fits more in line with the chronological order of Spider-Man day.
Spider-Girl™
03-18-2007, 02:53 PM
I still think it's a horrid idea to swing with MJ at the end. I may change my mind after actually seeing it, but I doubt it.
Eggyman
03-18-2007, 03:32 PM
I would prefer to see Spidey swinging on his own, but to the those who say it can't be done right or look right just think of the Spidey and MJ swing in the first film -- that is one of my favourite swinging parts of the Spidey films. True the pic shown before isn't very good, but I'm sure that isn't the end swing . . . more likely the part where Spidey swings MJ to safety.
It can be done, I just don't think it should be . . .
bingy13
03-18-2007, 03:34 PM
How about it's raining outside and it's still fairly dark and as he gracefully swings throughout the city the sun rises? Kind of shows how he was consumed by the darkness but now he is back into light?
dark_b
03-18-2007, 03:35 PM
the reason why it can not be with MJ is because with her it would have to be a slow swing not this cool badass acrobatic swing.
wompa1
03-18-2007, 03:40 PM
Was it? Says who? You? Pfft. What ever. You call me an idiot because you don't share my opinion? Oh, the irony :whatever:. The final swing in sm2 sucked, period imo and if you dont like it, go f--k yourself and look, you gutless bastard, keep my name out of your damn mouth, coz you aint got **** to say, prick :o
So I guess the Oscars were wrong. I guess AFI was wrong. Mr. 7000 you must be right. You go, dude. You go.
dark_b
03-18-2007, 03:47 PM
So I guess the Oscars were wrong. I guess AFI was wrong. Mr. 7000 you must be right. You go, dude. You go.only opinions dude. he just explained to you.
Eggyman
03-18-2007, 03:48 PM
I agree, that is why I don't want it -- all I was saying is that they CAN make it look good like in the first Spidey, unless the VFX team have all suffered amnesia since then.
Mr Jide
03-18-2007, 03:51 PM
So I guess the Oscars were wrong. I guess AFI was wrong. Mr. 7000 you must be right. You go, dude. You go.
Hey dumbass, click on the link, seeing as you can't read :whatever: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/opinion :o
Eggyman
03-18-2007, 03:55 PM
Lmmfao.
Dragon
03-18-2007, 03:59 PM
the reason why it can not be with MJ is because with her it would have to be a slow swing not this cool badass acrobatic swing.
Why would it have to be slow? MJ is weightless to someone with Spidey's strength.
Eggyman
03-18-2007, 04:02 PM
I know what the guy means though -- Spidey can't exactly be looping round cranes and free-falling with the love of his life on his person.
Dragon
03-18-2007, 05:05 PM
I know what the guy means though -- Spidey can't exactly be looping round cranes and free-falling with the love of his life on his person.
Why not? There's zero chance he'd drop her with his ability to cling to objects. Even the g-forces wouldn't affect her really.
It's really all about th choreography of the scene. And I can imagine how thry could generate a really cool balletic type of scene with the two of them.
Web Slinging
03-18-2007, 09:01 PM
Why not? There's zero chance he'd drop her with his ability to cling to objects. Even the g-forces wouldn't affect her really.
It's really all about th choreography of the scene. And I can imagine how thry could generate a really cool balletic type of scene with the two of them.
There's reason to be skeptical but here's hoping you're right. We're definitely all hoping they can pull it off.
As far as the first movie, yes they had them swinging together through the city but the camera angles were much different than those used for the final swing sequences of the first two films. They relied more on the zoomed out approach, showing people watch them from the street level.
Spider-Girl™
03-18-2007, 09:22 PM
I could see if he picked her up like towards the end of the swing, and they swung towards the camera together.
Sentinel X
03-20-2007, 05:03 PM
Why not? There's zero chance he'd drop her with his ability to cling to objects. Even the g-forces wouldn't affect her really.
It's really all about th choreography of the scene. And I can imagine how thry could generate a really cool balletic type of scene with the two of them.Okay, if Spidey is looping around cranes and stuff...his swing is probably gonna be at least 6 Gs(to the minimum)...of course its going to effect her.Plus its gonna look weird...I hope he doesnt have MJ with him in the final swing
Dragon
03-20-2007, 06:07 PM
Okay, if Spidey is looping around cranes and stuff...his swing is probably gonna be at least 6 Gs(to the minimum)...of course its going to effect her.Plus its gonna look weird...I hope he doesnt have MJ with him in the final swing
If she survived the drop from the bridge and balcony in Spidey one, she can handle that. The g-forces of swinging with Spidey would be about the level of an intense amusement park ride. Anyway- it's a fantasy movie.
Retroman
05-02-2007, 05:00 AM
I saw the movie yesterday and....
There is no final swing in the movie!:cmad:
November Rain
05-02-2007, 05:32 AM
is there a final swing-esque type sequence of an elongated continuos swing sequence in it?
Retroman
05-02-2007, 06:04 AM
is there a final swing-esque type sequence of an elongated continuos swing sequence in it?
The first time we see symbiote spidey in action and then when normal spidey makes his entrance in the 'Battle Royale'. But nothing (for me) that comes close to the final swing unfortunately.
GoldGoblin
05-02-2007, 06:12 AM
Hopefully they will put one in on the 3.1 dvd.
Catman
05-02-2007, 06:15 AM
I saw the movie yesterday and....
There is no final swing in the movie!:cmad:
:wow: :wow: :eek: :eek: :eek:
:cmad:
November Rain
05-02-2007, 06:17 AM
Hopefully they will put one in on the 3.1 dvd.
that's a point, they'll always have something extra to milk fans into getting two copies
Catman
05-02-2007, 06:21 AM
Now I'm curious, man...
so, how does the movie end? Seriously! Whats the last scene! What the heck was so important that Raimi couldn't use the swing!
Retroman
05-02-2007, 06:28 AM
Hopefully they will put one in on the 3.1 dvd.
I doubt it but we can always hope.
:wow: :wow: :eek: :eek: :eek:
:cmad:Now I'm curious, man...
so, how does the movie end? Seriously! Whats the last scene! What the heck was so important that Raimi couldn't use the swing!
Yeah...i know i was waiting for the music to kick in and see Spidey triumphantly do one more swing through the city after (yet again) overcoming so much personal tragedy. Having said that...the ending with MJ and Pete reconciling is a good scene.
BTW: They put clips from the final swings from the first two movies in the opening sequence.Perhaps that was done as a compromise?
Catman
05-02-2007, 06:30 AM
Having said that...the ending with MJ is a good scene.
So, the last scene is very important. More important than a final swing.
Retroman
05-02-2007, 06:41 AM
So, the last scene is very important. More important than a final swing.
In the grand scheme of things yes that scene is essential. Just wish they could find a way of making him do the final swing right after even if it may have seemed out of place.:(
I edited my original post btw.:cwink:
Catman
05-02-2007, 06:47 AM
I edited my original post btw.:cwink:
Oh okay. Yeah, I see what you're saying. I guess it will all make sense when I see the movie.
Retroman
05-02-2007, 08:35 AM
Oh okay. Yeah, I see what you're saying. I guess it will all make sense when I see the movie.
Hopefully.:yay:
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