Graphic Novels you would like the next movie to have elements from

[bdsproductions]

for me:

1.The Long Hallwoeen
2.The Dark Knight Returns

you guys?.

Ps let me know if there is a million other threads like this and i will get rid of this one.

[Ronny Shade]

This topic has been brought up numerous times, but to my knowledge there has yet to be a specific thread on it.

I think the consensus is that everybody wants TLH and The Killing Joke. Unfortunately for me, I have only read part of TLH (of these two) so I'll abstain from opinionating.

[Two-Face]

The Man Who Laughs.

[ToddIsDead]

The Man who Laughs, with some of The Long Halloween injected into it.

[kooguy911]

The Long Halloween was good but to be honest I dont want to see another thing like that, I want something original.

But if I had to choose it would be tlh.

[Two-Face]

THL is drama thriller and Nolan's vision was like that mixed with action so it would be great if some elements came from THL.

[Beelze]

"The Long Halloween", definitely.

I haven't read "The Man Who Laughs" so I don't know about that one. As for "The Killing Joke", that's something I'd save for a later installment of the series. I like the whole idea of The Joker kidnapping Gordon and trying to make him go mad in order to prove his point about what a bad day can do to you. Great Joker plot. I think The Joker has to be more established, though, before they use any story elements similar to that of "The Killing Joke".

[ToddIsDead]

The Man Who Laughs is about Batman and the Joker's first meeting. It is a great read.

[StorminNorman]

I must say that I recently read TKJ and was slightly disapointed - but thats beside the point.

I think the Long Halloween would be a great story to base BB2 on. Change Holliday for Joker, save the scaring for BB3 (or very end of BB2), take away Catwoman but keep the frustrating romance between Selina and Bruce, just change Selina for Rachel (I like continuity). You will have to replace the villians randomly used in the story, but you could still have Mob Boss X (Falcone in TLH) employ a "freak" (Penguin?) Also use the theme of Freaks v. Organized Crime (Black Mask v. Maroni/Thorne?).

Of course add the Gordon-Dent-Batman greatness, really build the character of Harvey Dent - who was easily made my favorite character while reading TLH.

[Two-Face]

I like the idea Stormin.

[StorminNorman]

If I have Two Faces approval I know I have done well. :up:

[Dark Knight]

The Killing Joke

The Man Who Laughs

The Long Halloween

Dark Victory

Arkham Asylum

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, BEGINS used a few things from TLH......I'd like to see more too.

Some more of YEAR ONE would be nice.

[StorminNorman]

You know, I have heard that Begins used some things from TLH - but for the life of me I cant tell what they were. I certainly saw the Year One influence, but TLH not so much.

[Vile]

Man Who Laughs, Killing Joke, Arkham Asylum.

[Sandman138]

Arkham Asylum

No TLH, we don't need a rehash of a subpar mystery.

[The Fallen]

Arkham Asylum

No TLH, we don't need a rehash of a subpar mystery.

BLASPHAMY! Long Halloween is one of the geatest Batman graphic novels ever!

Bring on the Long Halloween for the sequal!

[javi1024]

The Long Halloween- Holiday
Dark Victory- Sofia Gigante running Falcone, Two-Face
Bruce Wayne: Fugitive- Bruce framed for murder

[javi1024]

I must say that I recently read TKJ and was slightly disapointed - but thats beside the point.

I think the Long Halloween would be a great story to base BB2 on. Change Holliday for Joker, save the scaring for BB3 (or very end of BB2), take away Catwoman but keep the frustrating romance between Selina and Bruce, just change Selina for Rachel (I like continuity). You will have to replace the villians randomly used in the story, but you could still have Mob Boss X (Falcone in TLH) employ a "freak" (Penguin?) Also use the theme of Freaks v. Organized Crime (Black Mask v. Maroni/Thorne?).

Of course add the Gordon-Dent-Batman greatness, really build the character of Harvey Dent - who was easily made my favorite character while reading TLH.
that all sounds great.:up:

[bdsproductions]

replace Holiday with Joker i agree.then do a "DARK VICTORY"-ish third movie maybe (has'nt read Dark Victory but knows some of the story).

[StorminNorman]

Not to sure about using the main Dark Victory story - however introducing Dick Grayson and Robin at the very very end could work very well.

I think the introduction of Dick Grayson at the end of the 3rd movie is important for this reason if none other - the future of the Bat Franchise. Say the Batman franchise ends with Nolan and the third movie, if you introduce Dick Grayson you can bring a Nightwing movie a few years down the road - in this movie you can tell the story of how Grayson was a great sidekick to the Dark Knight and then moved on. It would prolong the money making franchise.

[Ronny Shade]

I have FINALLY purchased and read The Long Halloween, and I loved it. HOWEVER, Falcone and Maroni were way to Godfather-inspired to ever function in a hollywood production. I did think the way they treated Harvey woukd translate well to screen.

[Katsuro]

I think the Two-Face story would be a good time to introduce Robin, like in Dark Victory. The whole reason Batman revelead himself to Robin was because of what had happened with Harvey. He was contemplating revealing his identity to Dent before he got scarred, and part of him thought that if he had done it, Harvey wouldn't have gone insane like he did. That's why he opens up to Grayson, to make up for not doing so with Dent.

[StorminNorman]

I have FINALLY purchased and read The Long Halloween, and I loved it. HOWEVER, Falcone and Maroni were way to Godfather-inspired to ever function in a hollywood production. I did think the way they treated Harvey woukd translate well to screen.

Ronny has lost his V-Card - congrats :up:

[COMPO]

Hey, i'm thinking of buying Long Halloween. Is it worth a read or not? I don't want to waste my money.

[StorminNorman]

The Long Halloween is the greatest Batman story I have read - plus I love Tim Sales art :up:

[Mee]

Long Halloween/Dark Victory
Killing Joke

[Mr. Thing]

The Long Halloween. I love that story.

I've yet to read The Killing Joke, as I can find anywhere in Glasgow that sells it.

[MrZombay]

"Batman: The Man Who Laughs"

It's the remake of Batman and Jokers very first meeting.

[Two-Face]

remake? I wouldn't call that.

[MrZombay]

What would you call it?

[Two-Face]

Sequel.

[StorminNorman]

The Long Halloween. I love that story.

I've yet to read The Killing Joke, as I can find anywhere in Glasgow that sells it.

IMO the Killing Joke is slightly overrated - I enjoyed it yes, but it was by no means the best Batman story I have read (I enjoy Loeb's story much more). I was able to find it as apart of a greater collection of Alan Moore's works with DC.

[Karategirlx2001]

1. The Man Who Laughs
2. The long Halloween
3. Dark Victory

(or some characteristics from Hush)

[StorminNorman]

I cant think of anything from Hush that would fit well in the next BB2 sequel - I love the story, but all of it evolves around (in some way) a very complicated story that does not fit yet and involves characters not yet introduced.

[Keyser Sushi]

I think they should not use any graphic novels... I think they should use elements from obscure issues of the comics that most of the people on these boards have never read. :up:

[Rynan]

I think they should not use any graphic novels... I think they should use elements from obscure issues of the comics that most of the people on these boards have never read. :up:


Like "The Laughing Fish" or "The Joker's Five-way Revenge"?

I don't know, but I think "Man who Laughs" could fit there, cus I think it's obscure...

[MrZombay]

Sequel.

Well yeah it is a sequel to "Batman: Year One" but it still is a remake of Batman and Joker's first encounter since Year One started Batman all over again.

[Mr. Thing]

How about the ones about the Joker's "Boner" crimes?

[Cinemaman]

The Long Halloween, Killing Joke and The Man who laughs.

[Dark Phantom]

I must say that I recently read TKJ and was slightly disapointed - but thats beside the point.

I think the Long Halloween would be a great story to base BB2 on. Change Holliday for Joker, save the scaring for BB3 (or very end of BB2), take away Catwoman but keep the frustrating romance between Selina and Bruce, just change Selina for Rachel (I like continuity). You will have to replace the villians randomly used in the story, but you could still have Mob Boss X (Falcone in TLH) employ a "freak" (Penguin?) Also use the theme of Freaks v. Organized Crime (Black Mask v. Maroni/Thorne?).

Of course add the Gordon-Dent-Batman greatness, really build the character of Harvey Dent - who was easily made my favorite character while reading TLH.

I agree. The rooftop scene with Batman, Gordon and Dent is a must! Just replace Falcone with the Joker in their dialouge and it still ends up iconic.

In fact, I've been writing my own little sequel fan-fic where I used alot of elements from TLH and such. It does have its weak points, but some scenes are spot on with the characters.

[theoneandonly]

i would like to see a deadpool 1

[Ronny Shade]

a deadpool batman movie?? :confused:

[Threshold]

Obviously the new one should draw heavily from Long Halloween and a little bit from Dark Victory. I wouldn't mind seeing elements from some of the darker Batman trades as well, but first and foremost it's gotta be The Long Halloween.

[Ronny Shade]

All Star >> Dark Victory

[Yurka]

Killing Joke

[MrZombay]

The Long Halloween is best for BB3 since TLH is Two-Faces origin, I don't see how this movie could be anything else then a loose adaption of The Man Who Laughs.

I see the new Batman series like this

Batman Begins = Batman: Year One

Batman Begins 2 *whatever its called* = Batman: The Man Who Laughs

Batman Begins 3 *see above* = Batman: The Long Halloween

Each film and book deal with the same plot

[Keyser Sushi]

Like "The Laughing Fish" or "The Joker's Five-way Revenge"?

I don't know, but I think "Man who Laughs" could fit there, cus I think it's obscure...

Well, I haven't read "Man Who Laughs" so I'll consider it obscure, too. :up:

And those other two, definitely.

[Lone Wolf]

The Man Who Laughs
The Long Halloween

Those two are the novels I see Nolan adapting well in the sequel. The Long Halloween should be a great influence to use, considering the book included both Harvey Dent and Joker as opposed to how they'll be in the film. I'd like to see a lot of the elements used, as well as the characters such as Meroni. Out of all of them, TLH should be the one used the most.

The Man Who Laughs is mainly for the depiction and inspiration for Batman's first meeting with Joker, and is at times compared to be the sequel to Year One. Killing Joke is where we saw what he could be capable of, by attempting to drive Commissioner Gordon insane. It had both the comedic and maniacal side of the character.

I'd also like to see some lines from the books taken to the screen, if possibe. Such as in The Man Who Laughs, we see Bruce attending a party which he ends up leaving to meet with Gordon. He meets with him at Arkham Asylum where Joker had left another "calling card" which is shown to be a note, that reads. "One by one, they'll hear my call. Then this wicked town will follow my fall." The Killing Joke showed Joker constantly on the perge of having "one very bad day," which ends up playing a huge role in the novel. It also effected Bruce because he had "a very bad day" aswell, when his parents were murdered in front of him. He overcame it of course, and decided to fight for good. While Joker did the complete opposite. The "bad day" that partially drove him insane was the death of his wife, who had died from a traumatic accident. Batman ended up finding Joker, and subdued him.

The Laughing Fish is one of my favorite Joker stories from Detective Comics #475 through issue #476. The Joker's Five way Revenge is the one I'd choose over it, though I like both equally the same. Simply because it had one of my personal favorite quotes of all time, as Batman describes Joker as "A one man plague. He comes, he kills and disappears." Which is something I'd like to see in the sequel.

[Black Panther]

The Man Who Laughs
The Long Halloween

Those two are the novels I see Nolan adapting well in the sequel. The Long Halloween should be a great influence to use, considering the book included both Harvey Dent and Joker as opposed to how they'll be in the film. I'd like to see a lot of the elements used, as well as the characters such as Meroni. Out of all of them, TLH should be the one used the most.

The Man Who Laughs is mainly for the depiction and inspiration for Batman's first meeting with Joker, and is at times compared to be the sequel to Year One. Killing Joke is where we saw what he could be capable of, by attempting to drive Commissioner Gordon insane. It had both the comedic and maniacal side of the character.

I'd also like to see some lines from the books taken to the screen, if possibe. Such as in The Man Who Laughs, we see Bruce attending a party which he ends up leaving to meet with Gordon. He meets with him at Arkham Asylum where Joker had left another "calling card" which is shown to be a note, that reads. "One by one, they'll hear my call. Then this wicked town will follow my fall." The Killing Joke showed Joker constantly on the perge of having "one very bad day," which ends up playing a huge role in the novel. It also effected Bruce because he had "a very bad day" aswell, when his parents were murdered in front of him. He overcame it of course, and decided to fight for good. While Joker did the complete opposite. The "bad day" that partially drove him insane was the death of his wife, who had died from a traumatic accident. Batman ended up finding Joker, and subdued him.

The Laughing Fish is one of my favorite Joker stories from Detective Comics #475 through issue #476. The Joker's Five way Revenge is the one I'd choose over it, though I like both equally the same. Simply because it had one of my personal favorite quotes of all time, as Batman describes Joker as "A one man plague. He comes, he kills and disappears." Which is something I'd like to see in the sequel.

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Well said and thought out, Batman. :)

[Ronny Shade]

Take The Long Halloween. Remove all the fake Godfather stuff and replace it with more original gangster stuff. Replace Holiday with Joker. Delete all appearances by as-of-yet unintroduced villains.

You have your movie.

[Sandman138]

Well, that sounds like an incredibly uneventful movie.

[Ronny Shade]

True.

It's just that's the way it looks to be shaping up at the moment.

[COMPO]

The Long Halloween is the greatest Batman story I have read - plus I love Tim Sales art :up:

Just bought Long Halloween. And finished it. Yeah, your right it is good i think the bit with Maroni's men putting the stiff in the boot of the car would be good in the next film.

[MrZombay]

True.

It's just that's the way it looks to be shaping up at the moment.

No, it looks like it's shaping up to be The Man Who Laughs. The way you put it you have to remove almost everything in The Long Halloween.

TMWL doesn't need nearly as much changing, since TLH features Harvey turning into Two Face I say save that for 3.

[shaggyaggie457]

Yeah, but Harvey doesn't become Two-Face until almost the end of TLH. I think it would be good to have some elements of TLH, like the whole Holiday storyline with some changes to exclude introducing too many new characters, and then of course TMWL because this movie introduces Joker. Possibly make Joker turn out to be Holiday. That way Harvey would be working on the Holiday case and everything, and then they catch Joker and he throws the acid on Harvey.

One problem with changing Joker to Holiday would be that you lose the great twist at the end of TLH....

Where Dent's wife turns out to be the Holiday killer for some of the murders.

[COMPO]

I also think that it would be good if they had the sewer bit from Long Halloween in the next film you know where mickey Sulivan is being chased after by batman and he goes down into the sewers and gets attacked by solomon grundy. But, change Mickey to Crane and have it at the beginning so that we get Crane out of the way.

[Ronny Shade]

No, it looks like it's shaping up to be The Man Who Laughs. The way you put it you have to remove almost everything in The Long Halloween.

TMWL doesn't need nearly as much changing, since TLH features Harvey turning into Two Face I say save that for 3.
you haven't been paying attention

[MrZombay]

you haven't been paying attention

Ofcourse I have, The Long Halloween wouldn't make alot of sense. They could merge TMWL and TLH into one movie possibly but TLH by itself doesn't work.

In that story Batman and Joker have already faced eachother

[shaggyaggie457]

So? That doesn't mean anything. BB2 is set a few years after BB, and Batman goes to investigate one of Joker's crimes at the end of BB, so they could have met during the lapse between movies. Though it's likely their first meeting will be during BB2, it doesn't have to be.

[MrZombay]

No it doesn't have to be their first meeting, but that would seem like a pretty sub par movie to me if it was not their first meeting.

Wheres Batman trying to get inside Joker's head while trying to solve his crimes? Wheres the epic first encounter? Wheres The Jokers first joke?

[trustyside-kick]

The Killing Joke

The Man Who Laughs

The Long Halloween

Dark Victory

Arkham Asylum

:up: