Mac Gargan's Venom Thread ! ! . .

[Kirsten-Is-Hot!]

Here's a thread dedicated to latest incarnation of Venom also known as Mac Gargan of Scorpion fame.
Obviously the move to seemingly kill off Eddie Brock and end up having the symbiote bond with Gargan to create the new Venom has proven to be quite controversial with readers either digging the idea or being quite displeased.

So anyway the point of this thread is for fans of the new Venom to discuss the character and post pictures of him as they filter through for the upcoming mini series he will be appearing in titled 'Beyond'.
The mini should hit in June and the team behind it are Dwayne McDuffie
& Scott Kolins.

Don't bother posting if you just want to slag off Venom and say he sucks, do it in another thread.

[Venom.X]

For now, all I'll say is that whatever positive OR negative feelings for the new "Scorpom" will be reserved until I see him in action again. I hated the original Scorpom but this one looks new. I rather have the original Scorpion back as a better character, but if by some grace of God the new Scorpom succeeds then I'll accept him as the new Venom.

[Dangerous]

Cool a Venom III thread!, we need some pics in here though, hmmmm.

[Dick Cheese]

Cool a Venom III thread!, we need some pics in here though, hmmmm.

I fully concur,

Anyway welcome to the boards. Now that's a whopper!

[E.Brock]

your not gunna find any fans of the new venom.....except for the people that hate venom period (prolly not even them)....i honeslty think this thread is a waste of time...if anyone actually thinks that this venom will actually last is sadly mistakin...anyone whos anyone knows venom's popularity and his status in the marvel universe (look at his endless amounts of mini series and so on...) realize that this just a stunt by marvel to make eddie brocks re-appearence as venom all the more dramatic and "sale-boosting". Theres only one venom

[The-Arachnoid]

You make a valid point about Eddie Brock’s return and that that maybe they are just having someone else as Venom so that when the original one returns it will be all hyped up and stuff.
I actually like this Venom though, I only recently read the issues of Marvel Knights that he was in but I thought the new take on the old costume was really cool, and who knows he may be around much longer than anyone suspects. Like Jason Todd replacing Dick Grayson, and becoming a legitimate successor no matter how long he is around for.

[Dangerous]

Preach brother, and welcome to the Hype!
VenomIII rules.
I can't seem to get the images from newsarama to host here weird.
..Sure there will be more as we get closer to Beyond tho,

[Spidey-Jason]

I liked the idea of a thread like this!Always been a fan of McGargan and Venom and I hope this new Venom to give spidey a hard time in the future.

[E.Brock]

wow im honestly suprised to see fans of him....you guys must not have been that big of fans of the original....i truley think you guys stand alone

[Dangerous]

Er yea dude whatever.
I'm a big fan of Venom/Brock got every core appearence of his,
I just think VenomIII also rules.

[The-Arachnoid]

Here's the badass pic when we saw the new Venom for the first time.
Sent shivers up my spine, what would be cool would be if Venom fought Toxin, I reckon Venom would kick his ass.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/ScorpionVenom.png

[Dick Cheese]

Sweet pic. Can't wait for it personally, to be honest, I love it.

Cheers, and thank you.

[Themanofbat]

wow im honestly suprised to see fans of him....you guys must not have been that big of fans of the original....i truley think you guys stand alone

I wish Marvel could have done something better with him as the Scorpion, but I'll see where they go with this.

I was a BIG fan of the original Venom... for his first two appearances (and his only good ones).

You make a comment about his popularity and all those mini's... which were not very good stories at all, and Venom made SO MANY appearances in every Marvel comic in the early 90's that it really sugar-coated any type of creative character development for Brock.

However, with the potential for a Brock/Venom movie thing going, I doubt that Marvel with keep Mac as Venom, because they certainly wouldn't want to "confused" all the new readers from the movies...

:rolleyes:

Cheers...

:)

[Toxin]

As for Venom III...sleek look, but they should play more on the Scorpion thing. I saw a great picture someone drew of Venom more Scorpioned out, with a tail, and claws, and everything. I'd love tos ee it.

[Spider-Girl]

Dwayne Mcduffie,lol, that is the most retarded name ever! It has to be a fake.

[Kirsten-Is-Hot!]

Cool lots of Venom Gargan fans.
As for Venom III being able to take Toxin- no way, compare their stats over at Spiderfan.

[giggs11uk]

any plans for him to return to ASM

[Dangerous]

I don't know of any plans for Toxin's return as yet, but as other have stated in this thread he has an action figure coming up so you have to think that means they will be using him again.

[fudgeewudgee]

The New Venom Looks Awsome but I bet the old venom could bet him
:venom::venom::venom::venom::venom::venom::venom:

[Vile]

I like the new incarnation of Venom because, and lets face it, Old Venom and Scorpion both were going nowhere fast.

I only hope, as others have stated, that his looks takes on a more 'scorpionish' appearance.

[Dangerous]

Well in the preview art for Beyond Venom can be seen attacking Spidey w/ his Scorpion tale, I think just Venom w/ the tail would be f**king badass.

[fudgeewudgee]

I like the new incarnation of Venom because, and lets face it, Old Venom and Scorpion both were going nowhere fast.

I only hope, as others have stated, that his looks takes on a more 'scorpionish' appearance.



WHAT ARE YOU TALKIN ABOUT THE OLD VENOM AND SCORPION ARE SOME OF THE MOST KNOWN VILLIANS IN ALL THE SPIDERMAN UNIVERSISES:eek::eek::eek::mad::mad:

[TwilightPro101]

The look for the new Venom is great, but Gargan will always be Scorpion no matter the circumstances. He didn't really do much as far as I was concerned towards developing Gargan further - it may have raised the bar visually, but I wasn't that impressed with it.

[TwilightPro101]

Here's the badass pic when we saw the new Venom for the first time.
Sent shivers up my spine, what would be cool would be if Venom fought Toxin, I reckon Venom would kick his ass.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/ScorpionVenom.png

A part of me wants thinks he's always been envivous of Eddie Brock for having the suit from the get-go since Brock has done his share of damage to Peter and co.

[Vile]

WHAT ARE YOU TALKIN ABOUT THE OLD VENOM AND SCORPION ARE SOME OF THE MOST KNOWN VILLIANS IN ALL THE SPIDERMAN UNIVERSISES:eek::eek::eek::mad::mad:

I'm not saying otherwise.

What I am saying, Venom was going nowhere and nowhere FAST. Honestly, his character was awesome in the beginning...then basically dropped quicker than a meteor (Let us not forget he joined the...FBI, was it? at one point). Recently though, he's been on the upslide - and why is that? Because we dont need an Eddie Brock for it to be Venom - it's the SUIT thats Venom. The suit should be changing up hosts like there is no tomorrow.

As to Scorpion?...Gimme a break. Besides the couple of one shots here and there he's been basically idling between mercenary/psycho with a hardon for Jameson. How many times are we going to see him 1: Working under someone as a lackey or 2: Going after Jameson for the million time? Yawn.

Do I think Gargan-Scorpion should last? No, actually I dont. Like I said, I want the Symbiote jumping ship any chance it gets! But as long as it's with Scorpion...I certainly dont have a problem with that.

[TwilightPro101]

The symbiote changing host is the most logical approach to it all, but the thing that irked me most was the fact that they had to have an auction for the suit. Nice touch, but let the suit do the work for itself.

[Vile]

Indeed, the auction was a tad much.

I mean...why would the Lizard be there?

[Rabid_Rust]

I dunno guys, personally, I'm not feeling the new look. I'd like the classic white spider, big eyes (without those eye-hole things), the white patches for webbing, and a big black scorpion tail. That'd be awesome. I'd also like him a little more bestial, I just think it makes venom looks cooler when he's big and hunched over, like in the ultimate universe.

I don't like the idea of venom switching up hosts to often either. That's just because, to me... this is hard to word... to me, Venom was always the combination of host and symbiote. I don't consider the symbiote to be venom, and I don't consider brock (or gargan) to be venom either. When the two unite, that's venom. I'd like to see the symbiote go back to brock, if they improve his character. I always loved venom, but brock is not that interesting to me.

[Dangerous]

I hope Venom gets to kick some ass in Beyond instead of just being on the receiving end again.

[Dangerous]

Just saw that the First issue of Beyond is out 5th July!!!

[The-Arachnoid]

Ahhh man I am so looking forward to Beyond, hope Venom gets to kick some ass!

[Dangerous]

yeah definatley me too.

[Kirsten-Is-Hot!]

I bet by the end of this arc Venom either turns good guy or Mac seperates from the symbiote.

[Dangerous]

I hope he sticks around as Venom personally.

[Kirsten-Is-Hot!]

Apart from Venom can anyone tell me who the other characters involved in Beyond are>??

[Vile]

The Hood will be there! Thats enough to get me reading it! That miniseries was so incredibly badass...and FUNNY! Holy **** I laughed out loud meny a damn time reading it.

[Dangerous]

Hmm, think I might check that out.

[Kirsten-Is-Hot!]

We need to get some more pics up here for the upcoming mini.

[Dangerous]

What I'm wondering is will Vemom be red all the way through this book like he is on the cover of Beyond#1.

[The-Arachnoid]

The red thing might just be a light reflection on the cover, more covers should be availible soon at marvel.com

[Langoth]

Marvel.com states that this Venom, in his profile, can press 75 tons.

And on a side note-

This Venom, while ambushing Spider-Man, who didn't get his Spidey Senses, who is effectively Colossus, and should be twice as fast as Peter.

Got up and ass whooped in mid air by someone not even 1/7th his strength. Bravo Gargan, bravo, provin' to the world day by day... that Mac is still an incompetent idiot. *claps*

;)

[Dangerous]

It Does not necessarily work that way about the strength doubling up.
The reason Venom/Brock was real strong in the first place was because his strength level was derived from the emotional intensity of the host.
Eddie hated SM/PP so in turn when he was Venom he was really strong.
Also, Venom/Eddie’s strength level was 11 Tons as stated on Spiderfan.org, or in the official guide to the MU Spidey handbook 2004, is stated as level 4 = 800lb-25 Ton range.

[CaptainStacy]

Apart from Venom can anyone tell me who the other characters involved in Beyond are>??

Spidey, Venom, Gravity, Medusa, Hank & Jan Pym, Firebird, Kraven III, The Hood

There's supposed to be a big fight between Venom and Medusa....

Also; one of the group is supposed to be killed off pretty early in the series....i have a bad feeling it will be The Hood. Out of all of these characters, he's been used the least. A shame, because he's ten times more interesting than Firebird. Personally, if one of them has to go, i hope it's her, because i find her quite boring and bland.

[spiderpride]

first i thougt i was the only one how liked venom 3
he,s amazing aldo i do hope venom end up withe eddy broke after all

[Vile]

The Hood can't die!

Hell, at this point I'd rather see Spidey go first...

[Dangerous]

It would be cool if Venom kills one of them.

[The-Arachnoid]

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Aug06/BEYOND002cmyk_600.jpg

Here's the cover to Beyond#2.
Venom eating Spider-man, heheh.
Man this mini is going to rule.

[Dangerous]

That cover is great, better than the one to issue 1.

[The-Arachnoid]

Yeah its better cause now we know that Venom aint red after all.

[CaptainStacy]

It's going to be embarassing if Medusa kicks Gargan's ass, lol.

[Dangerous]

Yeah, then I would have to that the admit that current Venom sucks.

[The-Arachnoid]

Only got to wait till next month for this book to start!

[Dangerous]

wonder when we will get to see some more preview art.

[The-Arachnoid]

Pick it up its out now!

Woot, return of Mac as Venom!

[The-Arachnoid]

Il post opinions soon.

[Dangerous]

God damn!

After everyone saying this Venom sucks, he goes and achieves something Brock could never do-
...Kills Spider-man!

In my opinion this Venom is now totally legit.
Can't wait for issue two.

[The_Vision]

I dont think this Venom sucks but i dont think he's as good as the original.

[Dangerous]

'Cept he has finally managed to kill Spidey right?,

Damn does anyone know if Beyond#2 came out this week?

[vegeta21]

Just because one has Eddie Brock's symbiote, it shouldn't make them "Venom". Venom is EDDIE and the Symbiote. Heck even the name Venom comes from Eddie's career working for "Venom spewing tabloids". Gargan should incorporate his Scorpion persona into like maybe have the suit produce a scorpion like tail and a Scorpion insignia on his chest, that's clearly a scorpion, though he might have that but its really hard to tell.

[Wolvenom2099]

I've been a tru venom fan since the begining but I have to say that the new look that gargan is sporting is cool, I love the venom variant cover to thunderbolts #110, if ya haven't seen it check it out.

[venom628]

Here is a cool venom III pic
http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/images/venom3/venom3001.jpg