Nice Coat

[One Nate Seven]

why does everyone dislike that line? when i heard it and everytime after i got chills.. the huge anticipation of when the darkknight comes to be... an after achieving victory after disppearingfor years he sees the last person he talked 2 in gotham..

it was like he was hinting that "hey its me, and im BACK, wont get tossed out of a club THIS time"

hard to explain but it baffles me why it can be percieved as "corny" or a one liner.. it looked like casual human to human interaction with no desire to be funny

[Flame on!]

why does everyone dislike that line? when i heard it and everytime after i got chills.. the huge anticipation of when the darkknight comes to be... an after achieving victory after disppearingfor years he sees the last person he talked 2 in gotham..

it was like he was hinting that "hey its me, and im BACK, wont get tossed out of a club THIS time"

hard to explain but it baffles me why it can be percieved as "corny" or a one liner.. it looked like casual human to human interaction with no desire to be funny
It's ridiculous.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I didnt mind it myself, dont see why so many people get so worked up about it.

[El Payaso]

It would have been great if it was the only one cheesey line.

[swifty]

I didnt mind it myself, dont see why so many people get so worked up about it.


yeah!!! same here, I don't get the hatred for it!!!

[The Dutch Hulk]

I like that line :D

[SuperFerret]

It is corny, but it's stupid to get so worked up over one line.

[The Question]

I don't see the problem. Made him seem a bit weirder, which then portrays the idea that he's not entirely human.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I don't see the problem. Made him seem a bit weirder, which then portrays the idea that he's not entirely human.

Exactly, it also showed that he knew who he was fighting for, it was a way of saying to the guy 'you've no need to be afraid of me, i'm here to protect YOU!'

[Beelze]

It's not really a corny line, if you think about it, though it is a mood-breaker for some, and nice extra for others. Rest assured, it would've sucked if the line had no history to it, but now it did. I like it. "Nice ride" was worse, because it was too random, and its placement was pretty bad - it was the final fight dammit, no comic relief allowed!

[Bat Attack]

Ugh, I mute the TV when that part comes up.

[El Payaso]

Ugh, I mute the TV when that part comes up.

:D

:up: :up:

[KingOfDreams]

Was the guy who played the homeless dude the same guy who played Boris the Blade in Snatch?

[Ronny Shade]

yup

[Mee]

It takes you out of the drama and feel of the rest of the scene. Personally I had more of a problem with the "nice ride" though. But I think we can expect less one-liners with Goyer gone.

[Flame on!]

Exactly, it also showed that he knew who he was fighting for, it was a way of saying to the guy 'you've no need to be afraid of me, i'm here to protect YOU!'
OR the odds and logic were completely ignored and Batman saw the same guy that he'd given his coat too years earlier and still happened to recognise it, because somehow, someway, it was still recognisable.

Yes, it's a line but any offence is equally ridiculous as any defence.

[El Payaso]

OR the odds and logic were completely ignored and Batman saw the same guy that he'd given his coat too years earlier and still happened to recognise it, because somehow, someway, it was still recognisable.

People in B Begins hardly age. Alfred, the coat guy...

[zer00]

It's just a ****ing line, anyone who has a problem with it....are pretty sad:o

Something that'd probobly happen in the comics anyway.

[KingOfDreams]

It's just a ****ing line, anyone who has a problem with it....are pretty sad:o

Agreed

[Mr. Socko]

The problem only comes when an entire film is made of lines like that.

[Bat Attack]

Well I must be pretty sad, because that line makes my skin crawl.

[zer00]

well you are

[El Payaso]

It's just a ****ing line, anyone who has a problem with it....are pretty sad:o

As I said, I don't think it's the line, but the whole bunch of terrible one-liners which make this special line to feel really awful.

[CConn]

Well I must be pretty sad, because that line makes my skin crawl.Sad and female.

Don't forget female.

Big avatar!

[Ronny Shade]

Sad and female.

Don't forget female.

Big avatar!
Wish I had one. A big avatar I mean.

well, a female too. But not a female like HQ.

[batmaluco]

It's not really a corny line, if you think about it, though it is a mood-breaker for some, and nice extra for others. Rest assured, it would've sucked if the line had no history to it, but now it did. I like it. "Nice ride" was worse, because it was too random, and its placement was pretty bad - it was the final fight dammit, no comic relief allowed!
Precisely! :up:

[Bat Attack]

Sad and female.

Don't forget female.

Big avatar!
:mad::down

[Macphisto]

It's not really a corny line, if you think about it, though it is a mood-breaker for some, and nice extra for others. Rest assured, it would've sucked if the line had no history to it, but now it did. I like it. "Nice ride" was worse, because it was too random, and its placement was pretty bad - it was the final fight dammit, no comic relief allowed!
It's corny, far too coincidental, and, yes, a mood killer.

The hair on my arms stood up when Bale growled 'I'm Batman' followed by THAT score. Seriously, I could have cried with glee, everything was so perfect - the delivery, angle, lighting, mood, score. Then came 'Nice coat'...

[drunkhomer]

i really didnt have a problem wif dat line....and can understand y sum ppl would not.....but i dont understand y ppl would hate it DAT much

[Beelze]

It's corny, far too coincidental, and, yes, a mood killer.
I don't think it fits the definition of "corny" found here (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=corny). I agree that it was a huge coincidence though.

[The Kid]

yup this line sucks.

anywai, what's up with the big avatars? I want one.

[Bat Attack]

1,000 posts= 50x50 avvy
3,000 posts= 75x75 avvy
6,000 posts= 100x100 avvy

[El Payaso]

1,000 posts= 50x50 avvy
3,000 posts= 75x75 avvy
6,000 posts= 100x100 avvy

You earned it. And you're everything but sad.

[LostSon88]

It's not really a corny line, if you think about it, though it is a mood-breaker for some, and nice extra for others. Rest assured, it would've sucked if the line had no history to it, but now it did. I like it. "Nice ride" was worse, because it was too random, and its placement was pretty bad - it was the final fight dammit, no comic relief allowed!

My thoughts exactly...it takes you out of the moment. Oddly enough, I don't have a problem w/ "Nice ride"...:confused:

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I was fine with it.

[Bathead]

I am of the opinion that some fans are making much ado about nothing when they b***h about those lines. I didn't have a problem with any of them. Not like some of the lines in any of the other movies. (including Burton). Lines like "Eat floor, High fiber." or "Chill." make me wince.

[Bat Attack]

You earned it. And you're everything but sad.
Well thank you.:)

[ShadowBoxing]

It was poorly placed in the movie...there are times for corny lines, Batman's introduction to the world is not it.

[One Nate Seven]

i still dont see how its corny, youd say that to anyone on the street if they had a nice coat, in this case that was HIS coat,

i think the line is fine and you people are nuts for thinking its corny, maybe i watched Sin City too much.. "now thats one fine lookin coat you got there"

[The Kid]

I don't know what it is. Batman doing comedy can work if it's meant to look out of place because... well he's the most serious no bull-sht superhero and him doing comedy is extra funny because it's against his normal attitude, but this didn't work for me at all.

heh

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Ya know....even in some of the best Batman stories.....Bats gets some corny lines. Part of the fun of it all, I guess. They don't really bother me. He's not cracking one liners, and not making jokes about McDonalds or Superman or something...........

[Batty for Bats!]

I don't know what it is. Batman doing comedy can work if it's meant to look out of place because... well he's the most serious no bull-sht superhero and him doing comedy is extra funny because it's against his normal attitude, but this didn't work for me at all.

hehI feel the same way.:(:up:

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I don't think it was really meant to be HA-HA funny......

[One Nate Seven]

more of a moment to half smile and nod your head

[LostSon88]

Not like some of the lines in any of the other movies. (including Burton). Lines like "Eat floor, High fiber." or "Chill." make me wince.

How bout' in 89' when Bob goes, "Check his wallet..." Oh how I hate that line. :mad:

The guy's in a f***in BAT SUIT!

[El Payaso]

Nice coat wins.

[TheGrayGhost]

why does everyone dislike that line? when i heard it and everytime after i got chills.. the huge anticipation of when the darkknight comes to be... an after achieving victory after disppearingfor years he sees the last person he talked 2 in gotham..

it was like he was hinting that "hey its me, and im BACK, wont get tossed out of a club THIS time"

hard to explain but it baffles me why it can be percieved as "corny" or a one liner.. it looked like casual human to human interaction with no desire to be funny

Well, I wouldn't say it was actually meant to suggest that. But, no, I had no problem with line at all. In fact, that moment is on my top ten list of "Oh ****! Batman!" moments.

[One Nate Seven]

Nice coat wins.

t00w

[Soundwave88]

I love that part...I don't think theres anything wrong with it.

[HalloweenRes]

I don't see where there is anything wrong with it either. It was a serious moment. He didn't say it as a joke or anything. It's the irony of it all. A great scene! Now, if we look at the horrid Batman & Robin, those corney one liners were just AWFUL... Then again, the movie was **** anyhow.. "I want a car... Chicks dig the car..." BATMAN: This is why Superman works alone." NOUGH SAID...

[The Kid]

:confused: ok but it sounded like something adam west's batman would say in that moment to me.

[HalloweenRes]

Perhaps Adam West would say it, but you have to look at the scene in context. We know that Bruce gives the guy the coat before he leaves Gotham City. Later, after he becomes the Batman, he sees the same homeless man wearing his coat. I think it was very appropriate. Someone here said it best. Batman was like stateing "Hey, I am here to protect people like you." Furthermore, it shows a transition from where Bruce was in his life then, and where he is in his life NOW.. Bruce gave up material possessions to go on a quest to fight injustice. He gave to someone who was less fortunate than him and that is what Batman to some degree is about. Cleaning up the streets of Gotham to protect those less fortunate as well as the defensless. The scene SHOWS the passing of one stage in Bruce's life to another.

[One Nate Seven]

Perhaps Adam West would say it, but you have to look at the scene in context. We know that Bruce gives the guy the coat before he leaves Gotham City. Later, after he becomes the Batman, he sees the same homeless man wearing his coat. I think it was very appropriate. Someone here said it best. Batman was like stateing "Hey, I am here to protect people like you." Furthermore, it shows a transition from where Bruce was in his life then, and where he is in his life NOW.. Bruce gave up material possessions to go on a quest to fight injustice. He gave to someone who was less fortunate than him and that is what Batman to some degree is about. Cleaning up the streets of Gotham to protect those less fortunate as well as the defensless. The scene SHOWS the passing of one stage in Bruce's life to another.

well said, if only everyone saw what we see, then i would rest easy falling asleep around scene 12 of the dvd.. nice......coat ah

[The Kid]

Perhaps Adam West would say it, but you have to look at the scene in context. We know that Bruce gives the guy the coat before he leaves Gotham City. Later, after he becomes the Batman, he sees the same homeless man wearing his coat. I think it was very appropriate. Someone here said it best. Batman was like stateing "Hey, I am here to protect people like you." Furthermore, it shows a transition from where Bruce was in his life then, and where he is in his life NOW.. Bruce gave up material possessions to go on a quest to fight injustice. He gave to someone who was less fortunate than him and that is what Batman to some degree is about. Cleaning up the streets of Gotham to protect those less fortunate as well as the defensless. The scene SHOWS the passing of one stage in Bruce's life to another.
I thought that was what the gun-tossing scene was for.

But wait, it wasn't typical comic relief? Pfft.

[Mr. Socko]

Absolutely love the avvy Wes!

Look at it how you want but it was a campy line! Batman should have just said "Hi, can I have that coat?"

Sounds like a line out of Batman & Robin

[Bathead]

Adam West rarely made any kind of joke as Batman. He played the role dead serious. It was that seriousness in the midst of all the silliness that was part of the comedy.

[The Kid]

true, I now notice he's not at all a joker. My mistake. maybe the superfriends batman is more comparable. *shrugs*

thanks socko. I love it too.

[Macphisto]

Another thing I don't get about the 'Nice coat' scene (beyond it being camp and far too coincidental) is how come the homeless guy only notices the Bat after he's headbutt Falcone? He's standing not 20 yards away. How the hell did he not hear the gun shots, the limo's sunroof breaking, and then the Bat growling 'I'm Batman!' What is he - deaf? I know he's certainly dumb.

[The Only Woj]

Another thing I don't get about the 'Nice coat' scene (beyond it being camp and far too coincidental) is how come the homeless guy only notices the Bat after he's headbutt Falcone? He's standing not 20 yards away. How the hell did he not hear the gun shots, the limo's sunroof breaking, and then the Bat growling 'I'm Batman!' What is he - deaf? I know he's certainly dumb.

YES!!!! I hated this. If any of us run into Chris Nolan, make sure to point that out to him.

[Beelze]

Another thing I don't get about the 'Nice coat' scene (beyond it being camp and far too coincidental) is how come the homeless guy only notices the Bat after he's headbutt Falcone? He's standing not 20 yards away. How the hell did he not hear the gun shots, the limo's sunroof breaking, and then the Bat growling 'I'm Batman!' What is he - deaf? I know he's certainly dumb.
Maybe he wasn't too surprised about it, being in Gotham and all, and maybe he wasn't there all the time, but arrived sometime after Batman had taken out the guy doing all the shooting. I guess he still should've reacted to Batman breaking through the window to Falcone's car... although he did look up not long after that. IMO, they should just have cut to him standing there, already looking at Batman, and only have Batman being the one to look up and notice the homeless man.

[Super_Ludacris]

It was a nice coat that Bruce had

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think that there are far worse lines than nice coat, and by worse I mean lines that seemed to comicbooky and out of place in a film that was taking it's self mostly dead serious.

[Galactical]

It was a nice coat that Bruce had

:up: Yes it was.

[One Nate Seven]

It was a nice coat that Bruce had

lol

this thread rox

[HalloweenRes]

I thought that was what the gun-tossing scene was for.

But wait, it wasn't typical comic relief? Pfft.

You have a point there. I think the gun tossing scene shows that Bruce no longer believes in killing. He knows that it is wrong and that he must fight injustice to keep the people of Gotham safe. Batman doesn't kill unless he has to. He gave up the gun, because he realized that it was wrong to kill.. I viewed the scene where he gives the man the jacket as giving up material possessions. I mean, he gives his cash to the homeless man, and throws his wallet inside the dumpster. (he was running away to change who he was. He is more than Bruce Wayne. More than a man.) Then later, he sees the old man again with the "nice coat" comment. I think it really showed Bruce's transformation. His life has been forever changed. I don't know. Now I'm rambling. Think I'm going to stop here. LOL..

[Mr. Socko]

This was the worst line, just corny, something I'm sure that Dave Goyer insisted on being in. But I liked the line "I gotta get me one of those"

[One Nate Seven]

This was the worst line, just corny, something I'm sure that Dave Goyer insisted on being in. But I liked the line "I gotta get me one of those"

no it wasn't..

i agree on "i gotta get me..."

[Mr. Socko]

You have a point there. I think the gun tossing scene shows that Bruce no longer believes in killing. He knows that it is wrong and that he must fight injustice to keep the people of Gotham safe. Batman doesn't kill unless he has to. He gave up the gun, because he realized that it was wrong to kill.. I viewed the scene where he gives the man the jacket as giving up material possessions. I mean, he gives his cash to the homeless man, and throws his wallet inside the dumpster. (he was running away to change who he was. He is more than Bruce Wayne. More than a man.) Then later, he sees the old man again with the "nice coat" comment. I think it really showed Bruce's transformation. His life has been forever changed. I don't know. Now I'm rambling. Think I'm going to stop here. LOL..

Btw, Batman use to always kill.

[HalloweenRes]

Btw, Batman use to always kill.

Ah, yes, in the early days he did.. That was quickly ommited from the comics however. I don't think Nolan wants to portray that kind of Batman. Watch the scene when he throws the gun into the river. It signifies that he doesn't want to kill. People don't see Batman as a killer; at least I don't and most all of the Batman comics that came out after the 1940's period, Batman doesn't kill. Then again, I don't have any of those old Batman comics; going on what I have read and learned about the character over the years. I know Batman got a lot of attention around the war times; heck, look at the 1943 serial. Batman conformed to be "politically correct" back then and I think Batman Begins echos a lot of ideals that have come around in this day in age. (i.e. Ra's and his "Leauge of Shadows", believing that he is ridding Gotham of human corruption. It has been said by some on the board that his quest mirrors Bin Laden's twisted ideals.) I guess what I'm saying is, yes, Batman DID kill back in the day. As the years went on though, he was portrayed as a true hero. Someone who doesn't kill. Then again, we see a remnense of the fact that Begins' Batman doesn't seem too concerned about who he kills, via the fact that he blows up the Monistary with Ra's Ninas (accidental), as well as runs over the cops car with the Tumbler. But Batman's primary agenda is to save lives, not take them..

[BatMatt]

worst line is "can you drive stick?"

Glad they cut away fast

[The Kid]

:down thanks for making me remember that. I rolled my eyes like I've never roled them before when I heard that come out of batman's mouth. :O

[Super_Ludacris]

He had to check though, saftey first.

[antonydelfini]

i think nolan will not let those lines get in the script anymore. it just gets in the way of batman gaining more and more respect from the general audience.

[Super_Ludacris]

Those lines are barely noticeable

[One Nate Seven]

Those lines are barely noticeable

amen

get in the way of respectability from the audience? thats bull***, ill do a freakin survey with general public normal people who didnt read the comics or watch the TV show faithfully or anything.. they wont think its corny at all.. ive never met a human who thought "nice coat" was corny until i saw 2 posts on this board

now i posted this and theres HELLA you people who think its cheesy

"its the car right, chick dig the car" now what is THAT?

"nice coat" its so REAL LIFE and anti super hero

[antonydelfini]

it shouldnt have been said in that moment. it took away some of the powerful emotions in that scene by serving up a line with the purpose of making the audience smile. directors should know how to fully realize the potential of a particular scene. and he failed doing that in that scene by delivering nice coat. i just thought it could have been more poweful without the nice coat. its not that i hate it though.

[The Kid]

amen

get in the way of respectability from the audience? thats bull***, ill do a freakin survey with general public normal people who didnt read the comics or watch the TV show faithfully or anything.. they wont think its corny at all.. ive never met a human who thought "nice coat" was corny until i saw 2 posts on this board

now i posted this and theres HELLA you people who think its cheesy

"its the car right, chick dig the car" now what is THAT?

"nice coat" its so REAL LIFE and anti super hero

Just to put it in perspective, it's not something to start a fire in the backyard and begin burning dvds over. Like I did to the star wars prequels.

It just looks too obvious that they stuck typical hollywood-movie from the 90s oneliners in there to get a chuckle out of you that I'd prefer it if they didn't. If it was more involved with the story and had emotional payoff like the "didn't you get the memo" oneliner then it'd be much better. so I'm not saying oneliners are bad or ruined teh batman, the shakey cam did that, just that they didn't do some of them as good as they could have.

[Super_Ludacris]

Nothing wrong with oneliners, **** would be too serious then.

[The Kid]

amen luda. This aint passion of the christ.

[El Payaso]

Oneliners are fine... when they're funny.

[Super_Ludacris]

and they are

[El Payaso]

Yes, this 4 pages are for celebrating.

[Super_Ludacris]

You stuck around

[El Payaso]

Me and some other dudes.


Like you.

[Bathead]

I believe the "Nice coat" line had a purpose. After taking down about a dozen heavily armed thugs, which no doubt the homeless guy witnessed, Batman wanted to reassure the man that he had nothing to fear, that Batman was a friend, and the only ones that had to worry about him were the bad guys.

[Mr. Socko]

I stuck around for the +1's :up:

[One Nate Seven]

**** this might as well be a poll..

but get this.. that line isn't FUNNY

and i don't think it was intended to be funny.. it was something more to the level of the "did you get the memo" line.. Nice coat doesn't make me laugh nor did it make a fully packed theater laugh... its supposed to make you smile and reflect on their past relationship and here they are now n stuff

[Mr. Socko]

Just about every line in B&R had me burst out laughing...atleast Freeze's lines and the sad part is that it wasn't intended to be silly or funny

[Super_Ludacris]

It was a slick line a reminder if you will, that Bruce is back and Batman is his new life. He slightly nodded and acknowledged the last thing he did before he went off (give the dude his coat)

[Beelze]

This was the worst line, just corny, something I'm sure that Dave Goyer insisted on being in. But I liked the line "I gotta get me one of those"
I think that the "At least tell me what it looks like..."/"... Nevermind." line was the worst one, and that "Nice ride" was completely unnecessary and served no good purpose.

The line you mentioned is actually worse than the "Nice coat" line... A policeman says that, to himself, after he sees a man, the one he thought wanted to help the city, crushing the front of a police car and almost killing two police officers in the process? No. BUT, I laughed. The moment was built up well, and Oldman delivered the tired, old line in such a good way.

[El Payaso]

I think that the "At least tell me what it looks like..."/"... Nevermind." line was the worst one, and that "Nice ride" was completely unnecessary and served no good purpose.

The line you mentioned is actually worse than the "Nice coat" line... A policeman says that, to himself, after he sees a man, the one he thought wanted to help the city, crushing the front of a police car and almost killing two police officers in the process?

Agreed.

And I agree that the corny lines - oneliners or dialogues - were extremely well handled by the actors. If not for their superb talents the corniness would have ruined part of the magic.

So... out with Goyer!

[Archangel]

Nice Coat wasn't SO bad, though I still wish it wasn't in the movie. "Excuse me", when he went through the cell in Arkham was terrible though.

[Two-Face]

"Excuse me" bit was funny it's fuunier when two inmates look at each other!

[Beelze]

The "Time to play" line was also bad... perhaps the worst one, now that I rethink things a bit. It would've been enough to just show us Crane being given his mask back.

[raybia]

why does everyone dislike that line? when i heard it and everytime after i got chills.. the huge anticipation of when the darkknight comes to be... an after achieving victory after disppearingfor years he sees the last person he talked 2 in gotham..

it was like he was hinting that "hey its me, and im BACK, wont get tossed out of a club THIS time"

hard to explain but it baffles me why it can be percieved as "corny" or a one liner.. it looked like casual human to human interaction with no desire to be funny


It was a bad line and scene but ultimately so minor that it doesn't harm the integrity of the movie.

[El Payaso]

Nice Coat wasn't SO bad, though I still wish it wasn't in the movie. "Excuse me", when he went through the cell in Arkham was terrible though.

If you delete the Excuse Me line and just left those two guys looking at each other, you'd see how much better the scene is without it.

[Super_Ludacris]

"Excuse me" is classic Batman though. Always the consumate gentleman lol. I could say Keaton saying that.

[El Payaso]

Excuse me is classic Darkman.

[Super_Ludacris]

Batman Fathered Darkman's style.

[ragdus]

The "nice coat" line didn't bother me so much as the fact that that moron bum wouldn't actually still be hanging out having a bite to eat after a bunch of shots from a full-auto machine gun had just gone off.

[Super_Ludacris]

LOL! But he's a bum hes chillin

[titan101]

is it just me or do people use the word "nice" alot in this movie?

[El Payaso]

is it just me or do people use the word "nice" alot in this movie?

Yes.

And try 'fear'.:mad:

[The Kid]

It's not who I am underneath. It's my nice coat that defines me.

[Johnny Drama]

I could have done without that...:down

[Johnny Drama]

You know, what were the odds that that bum kept that coat in perfect condition after all those years?

[Super_Ludacris]

It's not who I am underneath. It's my nice coat that defines me.


Said a flasher

[ragdus]

You know, what were the odds that that bum kept that coat in perfect condition after all those years?

Um, wtf?

Watch the scene again, and explain to me how what you see equates to "perfect condition" please.

[Johnny Drama]

Um, wtf?

Watch the scene again, and explain to me how what you see equates to "perfect condition" please.

Well, maybe not perfect but what I meant was If gotham is really as bad it's made out to be then why didn't he get murdered and stripped of it that very same night he got it?

[Beelze]

Well, maybe not perfect but what I meant was If gotham is really as bad it's made out to be then why didn't he get murdered and stripped of it that very same night he got it?
If it was THAT bad Bruce wouldn't even have met the bum, cause he'd already be dead. Anyway maybe the bum has got street smarts, got bum friends, whatever.

[Mr. Socko]

You know, what were the odds that that bum kept that coat in perfect condition after all those years?

I agree. The bum would have stole another coat within 10 years.

[Beelze]

It was too nice to simply exchange it for another.

[Super_Ludacris]

Definetly a nice coat

[Whack Arnolds]

What can you say? It's a really nice coat.

[One Nate Seven]

through all the corny lines.. The Scarecrow had some great ones i feel... "Perhaps you should have some, clear your head"

[LostSon88]

I never found that line as corny :confused:

It was creepy...

[Bat Attack]

I really want to watch BB and count how many times the word 'Fear' is said... I better start stocking up on paper.

[batmaluco]

It's not who I am underneath. It's my nice coat that defines me.
LOL

[One Nate Seven]

theres nothing wrong with the overabundance of the use of Fear

Fear was an ongoing theme

Fear created him, he uses it, he wants to stop it.. it was brilliant

[Whack Arnolds]

Hey, what word is used more in BEGINS?

"Fine"
or
"Fear"

[The Kid]

i don't know. Fear I guess. That word was in almost every capter, I think.

[Whack Arnolds]

But don't you guys get it? It was a nice coat, it makes perfect sense.

[The Kid]

That bum would have sold that coat for cash ages ago. The bums here in new york sleeping on the subway and in boxes would probably kill a bear to get a nice coat like that, I say. Then they'd sell it for food or whatever.

[Bat Attack]

"Nice Coat".

[Bat Attack]

I never found that line as corny :confused:

It was creepy...
I agree, that was one of my favorite Scarecrow lines. :up:

[The Kid]

Nice Avatar.

Whoosh!
*Wesyeed jumps out of the thread*

[Whack Arnolds]

But he isn't a malicious Bum... he knows that coat is too valuable to his well being. He would die without it. Even a bum knows a nice coat when he sees one.

[Mr. Socko]

A real bum would have sold that coat for a pint of Whiskey.

[Whack Arnolds]

Not idealist bums...

[Mr. Socko]

Lol, is there a such thing?

[Whack Arnolds]

Lol, is there a such thing?Sure there is, there is all kinds of bums. I live in downtown Chicago, there is maybe 5 different types of bums. Some are actually really good people, just put in really bad situations.

[Mr. Socko]

Lol

Why is the board so dead now, it's Friday. It's not like people have work or school tomorrow :(

[Whack Arnolds]

I'm at work, I get out in an hour....

[Bat Attack]

Nice Avatar.

Whoosh!
*Wesyeed jumps out of the thread*
Thanks.:)

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I really want to watch BB and count how many times the word 'Fear' is said... I better start stocking up on paper.I'm not going to lie, I got pretty tired of the fear thing. I know that it was the movie's theme, but I think that it played it's self out a little too much.

[The Batman]

Dont you realize? To most fans, Batman is a humorless, soulless character. He's only good for action pieces. Thus, whats a harmless line is now a great crime in batman fandom

[JTStarkiller]

I honestly can't think of one single line that made me cringe. "Nice ride" and "Nice coat" didn't bother me at all, and actually still makes me laugh, and gives me chills, respectively.

[El Payaso]

I honestly can't think of one single line that made me cringe. "Nice ride" and "Nice coat" didn't bother me at all, and actually still makes me laugh, and gives me chills, respectively.

Me too... but for the wrong reasons.

[Bathead]

I think anyone who finds these so-called oneliners annoying are perhaps being bit too "sensitive". Out of all the bat-movies, the "oneliners" in Begins are the least obnoxious. I can't believe you folks are still talking about something this minor.

[The Kid]

Well I'm not one of those sensitive dirty people. I said it's nothing to burn dvds over, but not as cool as other oneliners were like the memo one. The Can you drive stick one made me say wtf though.

https://media.primediamags.com/products/SSHAT01-400.jpg Can you drive cliche?

[Bat Attack]

I can't drive stick...:(

[El Payaso]

I think anyone who finds these so-called oneliners annoying are perhaps being bit too "sensitive". Out of all the bat-movies, the "oneliners" in Begins are the least obnoxious. I can't believe you folks are still talking about something this minor.

http://img226.echo.cx/img226/6192/zcxzc6bw.jpg



"Nice post"



*BB theme raises*

[DV8]

Ugh, I mute the TV when that part comes up.

hahahaha . . . this coming from a guy who has the Batman Returns tagline and imagery on his avatar :D

[DV8]

yeah . . . the 'can you drive stick' was corny . . . it could have worked if it wasn't delivered as such a one-liner, I think . . . like if Batman didn't hold the key up and everything, but if he was really serious when he asked the question . . . cuz it's a valid question in that situation actually . . .

all in all I think the one-liners were mostly effective; it's a goddam comic book movie, and it's just gonna have one-liners . . . that's how it is . . .

But it wasn't goddam Ahhhnold sayin 'chill ouwt' and 'cooool it', so most of them were okay by me . . . effective that is . . .

[DV8]

I just hope they don't use the word fear as much in the next one . . .

[El Payaso]

all in all I think the one-liners were mostly effective; it's a goddam comic book movie, and it's just gonna have one-liners . . . that's how it is . . .

:confused: :down

But it wasn't goddam Ahhhnold sayin 'chill ouwt' and 'cooool it', so most of them were okay by me . . . effective that is . . .

Then the problem is another, and it isn't effectivity.

[Johnny Drama]

I just hope they don't use the word fear as much in the next one . . .


Would that really stop you from seeing it? Honestly, when have you have ever said "Damn it! They said this word too much in that movie, it is horrible to me now and I can never watch it again!"

It's a movie featuring Batman and the Scarecrow, so you should expect to hear the word fear in that movie as much as you would hear Chocolate in Willy Wonka.

People are just looking for any and every reason to complain about something. It is quite annoying. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go count the amount of times they say "dream" in Nightmare On Elm Street...

[DV8]

Would that really stop you from seeing it? Honestly, when have you have ever said "Damn it! They said this word too much in that movie, it is horrible to me now and I can never watch it again!"

It's a movie featuring Batman and the Scarecrow, so you should expect to hear the word fear in that movie as much as you would hear Chocolate in Willy Wonka.

People are just looking for any and every reason to complain about something. It is quite annoying. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go count the amount of times they say "dream" in Nightmare On Elm Street...

I wasn't really complaining about it . . . this whole film was rooted in 'fears', and that was effective . . . but I just don't want them overdoing it with the next one . . .

[DV8]

:confused: :down



Then the problem is another, and it isn't effectivity.

Seriously, it's a big-budget Warner Studios comic book movie, and the one-liners are there to stay . . . there's nothing that anyone can do about that . . . I don't want one-liners for the sake of one-liners, but IMO, one-liners can be effective if clever . . . I think it's just that we've been so bombarded with corn in the past bat-flicks that every one-liner makes us cringe . . . as I did, worrying that it won't work . . . but all in all, they weren't too bad is my point . . .

[El Payaso]

Seriously, it's a big-budget Warner Studios comic book movie, and the one-liners are there to stay . . . there's nothing that anyone can do about that . . .

Yes, that doesn't mean we cannot complain about bad one-liners.

I don't want one-liners for the sake of one-liners, but IMO, one-liners can be effective if clever . . .

The whole point was the lack of any cleverness in some BB one-liners.

I think it's just that we've been so bombarded with corn in the past bat-flicks that every one-liner makes us cringe . . . as I did, worrying that it won't work . . . but all in all, they weren't too bad is my point . . .

Dude, we're not worrying about them, we're judging them like 9 months after the movie release.

[DV8]

well . . . if that's the point, the 'nice coat' doesn't bug me . . .

the 'can you drive stick' marginally bugs me . . .

I really liked the 'weaponized hallucinogen' one though

the 'nice ride' one . . . I think I laughed in the theater, but now it's just terrible

[Mr. Socko]

I can't drive stick :down:

[DV8]

I can . . . it's fun!

[El Payaso]

Does anyone have here a nice coat?

[The Kid]

No mine's cheap, smells like crap mixed with chinese food, and has holes in it.

I'm a serious minded calculating dark and mysteriously laconic guy on a mission to defend justice at all costs even if doing so in itself is against the law. In that case, some laws were meant to be broken. Also, my girlfriend, tazer-girl, is my sidekick. Now I'm off to fight crime. Come, tazer-girl.

By the way... nice pants.

whooosh! I'm gone

[El Payaso]

No mine's cheap, smells like crap mixed with chinese food, and has holes in it.

...

By the way... nice pants.

whooosh! I'm gone

See? Three good one-liners in one posts. It ain't that difficult.

[Whack Arnolds]

I think anyone who finds these so-called oneliners annoying are perhaps being bit too "sensitive". Out of all the bat-movies, the "oneliners" in Begins are the least obnoxious. I can't believe you folks are still talking about something this minor.Took the words right out of my mouth. :up:

People are maybe alittle too sensitive to it, as if it is degrading the character. The line was rather harm-less. I mean, he's just a bum chillin. Everyone loves bums. :)

[JTStarkiller]

I just hope they don't use the word fear as much in the next one . . .

It'd be so awesome if the title to part 2 was something like...
Batman: Fearing the Fear, and maybe he changes his name to Fearman.

Just throwing out ideas. :)

[Tin_Man]

Took the words right out of my mouth. :up:

People are maybe alittle too sensitive to it, as if it is degrading the character. The line was rather harm-less. I mean, he's just a bum chillin. Everyone loves bums. :)

I agree. You want some good lines to rip on, look at Batman Forever:
1.) "Chicks dig the car."
2.) "Boiling acid!!!!!!"

there are a plethora of other quotes like this in that God-awful movie. I havent seen it in some time, so other than the ones posted, I cannot think of quotes off the top of my head.
The point? Batman Begins' corny lines (if it can be called such) are much better than any other Bat-film.

[El Payaso]

The point? Batman Begins' corny lines (if it can be called such) are much better than any other Bat-film.

Not at all. They're just as bad.

The good thing is BB is a good movie in spite of it, but the one-liners are awful.

[Voyeur]

Isn't "can you drive a stick" a legitimate question?

Don't get me wrong, I know it was meant to be humorous, but assuming the Tumbler isn't an automatic, seems like a reasonable question for Batman to ask Gordon before giving him the keys.

The "nice coat" reference I don't mind so much because it shows Batman isn't SO grim...he can still show a little playfulness, yet not in a campy way.

I have to admit the "excuse me" line seemed a little out of place but I honestly wasn't bothered by it.

Other than that, the "one-liners" don't really feel like that to me. Most of them are pretty logical in the scene. I'd say Alfred has some humorous lines, but they feel just right. And Fox's line, "didn't you get the memo" was a real crowd-pleaser.

[Tin_Man]

Not at all. They're just as bad.

The good thing is BB is a good movie in spite of it, but the one-liners are awful.

I dunno, I'd take "Nice coat" to "Holy metal floor, Batman!" any day.

[Whack Arnolds]

It's still a summer movie, and still meant to have fun. A little humor here in there THAT is funny, and quite a few of those lines got laughs... were much needed, and help derive a better overall movie going experience. You get action, drama, and even a touch of comedy. I remember the audience being quite amused with most of the lines:

"I wanna borrow it...for spelunking."
"Does it come in black?"
"I got to get me one of those"

Alot of Alfred's lines..

"Tell them that joke you know"
"Excuse Me."
etc.

I'd take any of the BEGINS quotes, within their context then:
"Eat floor, high fiber."
"Holy rusted metal, Batman."
"Any and every line from Batman and Robin."

[El Payaso]

I dunno, I'd take "Nice coat" to "Holy metal floor, Batman!" any day.

And I'd take sour milk to poison and that doesn't make it any good.

[ReTrO JuNkIe 42]

I dunno, I'd take "Nice coat" to "Holy metal floor, Batman!" any day.

Excuse me but thats "holy rusted metal floor" if your gonna quote crap quote it right :) :)

[Tin_Man]

And I'd take sour milk to poison and that doesn't make it any good.


Sour milk will make you sick. Poison will kill you.
But all analogies aside, Batman Begins quotes are superior to the films that came before it.



Excuse me but thats "holy rusted metal floor" if your gonna quote crap quote it right :):)


Crap is crap, be it brown clumps or green apple squirts :p

[Super_Ludacris]

lol@ people crying over a few lines, movie would be souless without them

[ReTrO JuNkIe 42]

Sour milk will make you sick. Poison will kill you.
But all analogies aside, Batman Begins quotes are superior to the films that came before it.






Crap is crap, be it brown clumps or green apple squirts :p

Yes tinman quite true and very uh descriptive and nasty lol :p

[The Kid]

Isn't "can you drive a stick" a legitimate question?

Don't get me wrong, I know it was meant to be humorous, but assuming the Tumbler isn't an automatic, seems like a reasonable question for Batman to ask Gordon before giving him the keys.

The "nice coat" reference I don't mind so much because it shows Batman isn't SO grim...he can still show a little playfulness, yet not in a campy way.

I have to admit the "excuse me" line seemed a little out of place but I honestly wasn't bothered by it.

Other than that, the "one-liners" don't really feel like that to me. Most of them are pretty logical in the scene. I'd say Alfred has some humorous lines, but they feel just right. And Fox's line, "didn't you get the memo" was a real crowd-pleaser.

why all of a sudden is the tumbler a stick shift only vehicle? Why? because it's teh funny if batman says can you drive stick.

lol? it was forced comedy and not good forced comedy either.

If it was can you drive "A" stick the line would have been a little better actually, but it was the cliche line from a million movies I've seen before, now stuck into this movie and played the exact way it's been played out a million times before to get a chuckle from somebody and I wasn't impressed. How inventive.

Exactly, just like how you can just feel a line is right and worked well with the scene because of the emotional build up behind it you can also feel when something didn't work. That guy being such a dick to fox all that time and fox getting his payback was all right. I can't imagine the movie without that one unlike some of the others that are just too obviously there as typical "movie oneliners" and take me out of the "realism" that nolan tried to accomplish and did for the most part until things got a little wacky and weird.

It's still a summer movie and it's meant to be fun, but that doesn't mean it needs to use tired cliches or be nonsensical to accomplish that. How many times did we here obiwan say "I don't think so" in response to a villian saying he'll be the victor or some crap. That's so lame. Am I supposed to like that just because it's a fun summer movie? No, I want better. I'm paying for this stuff.

And about them being better. No. Not better, less. The ones there are and that I think didn't work should stay out of the sequel. Not even burton's batman would say can you drive stick. Batman making a joke like that in that moment was just stupid and I hated it. The context was all wrong for that line. who agrees with me?

[Super_Ludacris]

lol@ people getting pissed off at Bruce cracking jokes in the heat of the battle

lighten the **** up people

[The Kid]

I wish these peopele wood luda. Every day it's look at how bad mr. freeze lines are. omg teh cheese.

And I personally loved ahnuld's mr. freeze so I don't get it.

And batman had more jokes than spider-man. i point this out because it pisses me off something fearce.

[Super_Ludacris]

What for? y'all dudes is mad depressive. It aint that bad....

[The Kid]

sorry but it's how I feel. I wish I could feel different.

:( *plays simple plan*

[Super_Ludacris]

Prozac + Friends

[The Kid]

sex too

[theMan-Bat]

About the people that don't like the one-liners (and nipple costumes), Joel Schumacher said: "Those people need to get out more".

[El Payaso]

I will. But not with Joel's friends.

[El Payaso]

Sour milk will make you sick. Poison will kill you.
But all analogies aside, Batman Begins quotes are superior to the films that came before it.

In this case superior = less inferior, at best.

[Tin_Man]

By definition, something that is superior to something else is less inferior. But I see what you're getting at. When it comes down to it, we just have to agree to disagree

[gamemiester]

I dont care about the line the only thing I wondered about was how he could remember that scruufy homoless guy after 7 years. Also all that money Bruce gave him and he didnt do anything with it oh well.

But really its sad to winge about 1 line.

[Atomic Crusader]

It's called levity, which ultimately adds realism. It worked very well in this case. Remember, if you take this stuff too seriously you won't enjoy it as much.

[El Payaso]

But really its sad to winge about 1 line.

I'm still waiting for the threads of the other one-liners - which are worse.

[Bat Attack]

"It's Fine."

[da3dl3us]

Sorry to bring a dead thread to life, but I thought the scene would have worked better if after saying "I'm Batman", the bum sees him and looks frightened. Then Bats looks at him and nods, a gesture of good will rather than any spoken word, after which he proceeds to grapple away.

[El Payaso]

Sorry to bring a dead thread to life, but I thought the scene would have worked better if after saying "I'm Batman", the bum sees him and looks frightened. Then Bats looks at him and nods, a gesture of good will rather than any spoken word, after which he proceeds to grapple away.

Agreed. Goyer needs to learn that sometimes NOT explaining everything verbally is far better. To let the movie speaks for itself.

[Mr. Socko]

I gotta get me one o' those


That was my favorite one liner.

[BatScot]

Sorry to bring a dead thread to life, but I thought the scene would have worked better if after saying "I'm Batman", the bum sees him and looks frightened. Then Bats looks at him and nods, a gesture of good will rather than any spoken word, after which he proceeds to grapple away.I never 'bought' the logic that Nolan gave for this (and similar scenes), i.e. that the “good people of Gotham” needed to be seen bonding with Batman… the ‘nice coat’ and, for example, the ‘balcony kid’ do more to undermine the intensity of the story rather than relieve tension.

[GoogleMe94]

About the people that don't like the one-liners (and nipple costumes), Joel Schumacher said: "Those people need to get out more".

LOL, i agree with him on that one. although in nolans movies, i expected a bit less corniness. i guess that was too much to ask.

but the nice coat line should have been left on the cutting room floor. it just didnt seem like something batman would say. i mean seriously, can you imagine keaton saying "nice coat" or "cool sneakers" after throwing that thug? uh uh. same goes for "excuse me" and "do you drive stick?". uuuh.:csad:

[BatScot]

About the people that don't like the one-liners (and nipple costumes), Joel Schumacher said: "Those people need to get out more".LOL, i agree with him on that one.A lot those people did get out... and they went to see Batman & Robin and they realized they should have stayed put and after that no one gave a damn about what Joel Schumacher had to say!

...although in nolans movies, i expected a bit less corniness. i guess that was too much to ask.

but the nice coat line should have been left on the cutting room floor. it just didnt seem like something batman would say. i mean seriously, can you imagine keaton saying "nice coat" or "cool sneakers" after throwing that thug? uh uh. same goes for "excuse me" and "do you drive stick?". uuuh.:csad:So true.

[CConn]

If Keaton did say it, he'd say it really awesomely.

[BubbaGump]

Eight pages devoted to a one-liner. :woot:

[Mr. Socko]

We're pretty much talking about all of them in this thread.

The driving stick line was the worst. Completely unnecessary and wasn't funny at all. Gordon could drive stick, so what's the point of asking him. Should have just left it out completely.

[BubbaGump]

We're pretty much talking about all of them in this thread.

The driving stick line was the worst. Completely unnecessary and wasn't funny at all. Gordon could drive stick, so what's the point of asking him. Should have just left it out completely.

Well there's no evidence to prove that. :o It would've been interesting if they took at least 30 seconds of footage devoted to Gordon driving to work--driving manual, then it would've been less stupid if Batman asked him if he could drive stick.

"Can you drive stick?"

"Hell yeah!!!" :woot:

[BubbaGump]

About the people that don't like the one-liners (and nipple costumes), Joel Schumacher said: "Those people need to get out more".

We could say the same for him: "You need to make better movies."

[Mr. Socko]

Well there's no evidence to prove that. :o It would've been interesting if they took at least 30 seconds of footage devoted to Gordon driving to work--driving manual, then it would've been less stupid if Batman asked him if he could drive stick.

"Can you drive stick?"

"Hell yeah!!!" :woot:


There's no point to the line at all, it seems like a line that tries to deliver some kind of comedy but fails.

Batman could have just thrown him the keys and let him drive, what is the relevance of knowing if the tumbler is stick, manual, automatic, whatever.
And what if Gordon couldn't drive stick...........

[GoogleMe94]

And what if Gordon couldn't drive stick...........

that would make for some great comedic Gordon action! now THAT would have been funny! personally though, i thought the whole gordon driving the batmobile thing wa kinda lame. he looked like he was playing a videogame, when it breaks hes like "YEEES!" :whatever: now that made me laugh.

[GoogleMe94]

I never 'bought' the logic that Nolan gave for this (and similar scenes), i.e. that the “good people of Gotham” needed to be seen bonding with Batman… the ‘nice coat’ and, for example, the ‘balcony kid’ do more to undermine the intensity of the story rather than relieve tension.


i agree. i hated the moments when they tried to spider-dize batman. this isnt a spiderman movie! batman is supposed to be dark and deadly, not giving gadgets to poor little kids! i wanted batman to have a DKR type vibe where even the kida are afraid of him. this is why im glad they cut out that "child saveing" scene from B89, when he picks up the little girl and she says "is it halloween?" and he smirks. that is what batman begins did, and it just didnt work. in a way, i was expecting to see a scene where batman is getting beat up and some ppl help him. can you imagine batman getting attacked by those gas-crazed ppl and some hefty gothamites with heavy new york accents goin "you mess wit 1 of us, you mezz wit All of us!".:o

[da3dl3us]

i agree. i hated the moments when they tried to spider-dize batman. this isnt a spiderman movie! batman is supposed to be dark and deadly, not giving gadgets to poor little kids! i wanted batman to have a DKR type vibe where even the kida are afraid of him. this is why im glad they cut out that "child saveing" scene from B89, when he picks up the little girl and she says "is it halloween?" and he smirks. that is what batman begins did, and it just didnt work. in a way, i was expecting to see a scene where batman is getting beat up and some ppl help him. can you imagine batman getting attacked by those gas-crazed ppl and some hefty gothamites with heavy new york accents goin "you mess wit 1 of us, you mezz wit All of us!".:o

Well, in the comics and in TAS, Bats also helps out kids. I thought him just giving the gadget to him without saying a words was totally in character.

[tekken]

there's nothing wrong with batman helping kids. but if it's that "not in character" for you, then u'd just let batman leave those kids be to die? another way is to introduce robin so he could help the kids, but u guys dont like robin either. nothing please u guys, lol.

[BatScot]

Well, in the comics and in TAS, Bats also helps out kids.As has be pointed out in the past, Begins is neither the comics nor TAS.

I thought him just giving the gadget to him without saying a words was totally in character.I thought him just giving away a gadget that he quite probably would need later was totally out of character... well, it would be of character for the intelligent Batman of the comics and TAS, but Nolan's ain't that Batman.

[BatScot]

there's nothing wrong with batman helping kids. but if it's that "not in character" for you, then u'd just let batman leave those kids be to die? another way is to introduce robin so he could help the kids, but u guys dont like robin either. nothing please u guys, lol.That's not true... no kids, no Robin pleases me immensely.

[tekken]

we might as well forget the fact that bruce wayne was a kid when he lost his parents then. i think it's important that bruce helps kids out. his main objective is to prevent his crappy situation from happening to any one else...whether it's aiding the hospital with funds as bruce wayne or giving some device to a kid as batman.

and i honestly dont mind robin. he's important to the batman myths. batman can only go so far without robin, nightwing, batgirl, huntress, oracle, etc.

but i guess in these "realistic" movies, such characters cant exist. which i dont get cuz batman is probably the most ridiculous character i know. he has no super powers, yet he can beat heroes like superman, spider-man, the WHOLE jla, and such.

[BatScot]

we might as well forget the fact that bruce wayne was a kid when he lost his parents then. i think it's important that bruce helps kids out. his main objective is to prevent his crappy situation from happening to any one else...whether it's aiding the hospital with funds as bruce wayne or giving some device to a kid as batman.I agree, to an extent... Bruce Wayne may see the children, but Batman's focus is only on the criminal.

[da3dl3us]

As has be pointed out in the past, Begins is neither the comics nor TAS.

I thought him just giving away a gadget that he quite probably would need later was totally out of character... well, it would be of character for the intelligent Batman of the comics and TAS, but Nolan's ain't that Batman.

I guess we can agree to disagree. :)

[Mr. Socko]

As has be pointed out in the past, Begins is neither the comics nor TAS.

I thought him just giving away a gadget that he quite probably would need later was totally out of character... well, it would be of character for the intelligent Batman of the comics and TAS, but Nolan's ain't that Batman.

Exactly. This isn't TAS or the comics. This is Nolan's Batman, and in Nolan's Batman...Batman helps out kids. Simple as.

How can you say Nolan's Batman ain't that kinda Batman while his actions in Begins clearly shows that he is.

[Cassandra]

I like that line. I think Bale's delivery made it work quite well. I had no idea so many people had such a huge problem with it!

[BatScot]

This is Nolan's Batman, and in Nolan's Batman...Batman helps out kids. Simple as.And Schumacher’s Batman had nipples on the Batsuit. Simple as... but that doesn't mean it was a good idea.

How can you say Nolan's Batman ain't that kinda Batman while his actions in Begins clearly shows that he is.Are we talking about the touchy-feely Batman here or the not so brilliant Detective?

[Argyle of Sock]

It's kind of a cheezy line, but I have no problems with it.

[MacLeod]

Exactly. This isn't TAS or the comics. This is Nolan's Batman, and in Nolan's Batman...Batman helps out kids. Simple as.

How can you say Nolan's Batman ain't that kinda Batman while his actions in Begins clearly shows that he is.

That's the problem right there, it shouldn't be Nolan's Batman or for that matter Shumacher's or Burton's Batman, it should just be Batman. Directors need to stop putting their spin on a well defined character and look. Rubber, nipples, etc. just add nonsense not reality to the character or suit.

Helping out kids is one thing, Batman should defend everyone. With that said giving a useful tool to a child is kind of pointless in my opinion. Now, as I stated, Nolan didn't create the idea of helping kids, the people who write the Batman comics did so let's stop giving credit to people who do not deserve it.

As far as Nolan's Batman being a better Batman is pointless. Everyone knows what Batman should act like; it really depends on how hung up you are on a particular movie or director to determine how much you will defend your new found belief. In my opinion, Nolan's movie is just about a vigilante, not Batman. I wasn't impressed but that's just me.

[Golgo-13]

I liked the "Nice Coat" line.

[MacLeod]

I liked the "Nice Coat" line.

I have no real problem with the line, my problem lies in the question of where does he go when he zip lines up? It's a great scene with a great ending but it lacks the realization of where does he go. Sure, he must latch on to something but I would think that would take away from the coolness of flying up in the air. It's like the Batmobile in Forever climbing the building. The shot was supposed to be this amazing scene but it was never shown what happens when it reaches the top. Personally, I don't like having that type of thing left to my imagine, I would rather see the ending of it.

[kez1984]

It's corny, but i like it, he gives him the coat as Bruce Wayne trying to find his way, and when he says it back to him, he's batman!

What i don't like about that scene is he seemingly magically floats into the air after pulling falconi out of the car, that bothers me, not the line, I also dont like, that he's just standing there, in the corner, conveniently, like the kid who shows up (again), if they showed him, perhaps told to ****off by one of Falconi's goons for begging before hand, it would be better to swallow.

[MacLeod]

It's corny, but i like it, he gives him the coat as Bruce Wayne trying to find his way, and when he says it back to him, he's batman!

What i don't like about that scene is he seemingly magically floats into the air after pulling falconi out of the car, that bothers me, not the line, I also dont like, that he's just standing there, in the corner, conveniently, like the kid who shows up (again), if they showed him, perhaps told to ****off by one of Falconi's goons for begging before hand, it would be better to swallow.

I agree, where the heck does he go when he zipps up? Doesn't it loose a little of the "Wow factor" when he then has to unhook himself and climb onto something?

[Cobblepot]

It's a dumb quote.

Bruce leaves the coat for the homeless guy, only to run in to him a few years later and the guy is still wearing the same coat?!

That way Nolan made us all forget Bruce has been gone for years...

[JayTee]

"Batman should be a mean psycho ninja all the time and never be funny and I hate kids and I hope the next one is rated R."

Some of you need to move on to something else if you've got these worries. The line was fine. So's Robin. So's a 10 year old liking BATMAN.

[sasquatchs]

I dunno why this one is singled out particularly, it's indicative of the whole script

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

why does everyone dislike that line? when i heard it and everytime after i got chills.. the huge anticipation of when the darkknight comes to be... an after achieving victory after disppearingfor years he sees the last person he talked 2 in gotham..

it was like he was hinting that "hey its me, and im BACK, wont get tossed out of a club THIS time"

hard to explain but it baffles me why it can be percieved as "corny" or a one liner.. it looked like casual human to human interaction with no desire to be funny


better Batman just fly up into the air silently without the silly line. Runins the tention.

[Damiean Dark]

It was indicitive of the overall script the terrible quotes where one of the movies lowest points.

[MacLeod]

It was indicitive of the overall script the terrible quotes where one of the movies lowest points.

Let's not forget the fight scenes, all the action scenes, and another rubber suit with cape clips. Those brought the movie down for me too. I'll gladly take the, "Nice coat," line if everything else could have been fixed.