Should Bats costume change?

[Spider-Bite]

alright first off I'm sorry if there is a thread on this. I used the search engine and couldn't find any threads on this.

Now I'm wondering if you guys think they should or shouldn't change Bats costume for the next movie. Also wondering if you think they are going to change it?

I think they should change it, but the change should be gradual from each movie to the next.

I kind of would like to see something along the lines of this.



http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e115/jason142/batscomile.jpg

[Spider-Bite]

sorry I guess I just found the thread for this. but anyways I think they should pick something like one of these, and then gradually over the course of the next two movies they should just gradually change the coloring from what it is to this.

[Ming]

And the survey says......no!

I have the position of believeing it's not good to mess with a good thing and not to fix things unless their broken. The Bat-suit is good and not broken, so mitts off.

[ultimatefan]

I like the suit. People got so worried about the hi-tech design of the chest and you barely notice it for most of the movie.

[Two-Face]

The suits look "schumacher colourful Batsuits" sorry to say that.

[Ronny Shade]

You know, those don't even look bad, but I don't think I'd want the color to change.

[Keyser Sushi]

Yeah wouldn't it be pointless for the colors to change like that? Suit's fine as is, really. The odd stuff like the chest doesn't even show up onscreen, for the most part, as ultimatefan pointed out. I like the gold belt 'cuz it's kinda traditional, and I like the overall look of the suit. The "bulkiness" that some people don't like is actually to its favor, as far as I'm concerned.

I wouldn't be offended by minor changes but neither do I feel that they are necessary. Overall I want to see some consistency from film to film this time. I hate that you can tell just by a picture of the bat-suit whether you're looking at Keaton '89 or Keaton Returns. He should have looked the same in both movies. And the twelve different bat-suits worn in each film by Kilmer and Clooney, "well it's Thursday, where's my neon codpiece, Robin?"

:(

[Spider-Bite]

It was my personal opinion that in the first movie the costume he had made him scarier which was a good thing. I think what I got up there looks "cooler" but for the first movie he needed to establish his character development in the scare the **** out of you department.

I don't think this is anything like Batman Forever or Batman and Robin. Actually this is is just more like the comic book.


Persoanlly I like the middle one, and I would like to the coloring in the second movie be like halfway between the one I got up there and what we had in the first one. Than in part 3 make the costume just like the middle one.

He'll usually be in the dark so it wont make any difference. I just think Batman should have his costume from the comic book. The armour of course is extremely important and everything. I'm just saying the color make it look pretty much exactly like the comic book.

[Keyser Sushi]

It was my personal opinion that in the first movie the costume he had made him scarier which was a good thing. I think what I got up there looks "cooler" but for the first movie he needed to establish his character development in the scare the **** out of you department.

I don't think this is anything like Batman Forever or Batman and Robin. Actually this is is just more like the comic book.


Persoanlly I like the middle one, and I would like to the coloring in the second movie be like halfway between the one I got up there and what we had in the first one. Than in part 3 make the costume just like the middle one.

He'll usually be in the dark so it wont make any difference. I just think Batman should have his costume from the comic book. The armour of course is extremely important and everything. I'm just saying the color make it look pretty much exactly like the comic book.

I've never seen Batman wear red or green in the comic books.

[Spider-Bite]

the one of the left has a cyan tint. the one in the middle has everything lightened, except the bat, cape, and cowl. I didn't change the color of anything for that one. just lightened some parts. thats just the lighting.
It does look like it has a brownish tint.

[Mr. Socko]

A few small changes should be made. Change the cowl first off, don't make it squeeze Bale's cheeks so much. Also do something with those ears girlfriend.

[StorminNorman]

The Cowl was perfect, the Suit was perfect, Everything was perfect. I don't like the coloring idea, it takes away from the darkness of Batman IMO, and I had no problem with either the Bat-Ears, or Bale's....cheeks?

[Mr. Socko]

Color the symbol yellow

[StorminNorman]

Color the Symbol Yellow

Hell No! :down:eek: :mad::down

[Mr. Socko]

Hellz yea!

[Ronny Shade]

The only change I would make at this point is alter the cowl slightly so he can move his head better.

[Super_Ludacris]

Well this cowl was meant to be the best one cause any person in it can actually move there unlike others

but as far as changes go, maybe some minor alterations that go with his progression

[Ronny Shade]

This cowl was the best one. But that's not saying it can't ever be improved.

[Super_Ludacris]

In terms of head movement where else is there to go with it? Its as flexible as they get

[StorminNorman]

This cowl was the best one. But that's not saying it can't ever be improved.

My thoughts exactly. Just dont change the overall look of the suit that much - hopefully any improvements will not be superficial.

[nolan's roll'n]

For the first time I would have to agree with Stormin Normin. I have to say I found the costume from BB perfect, the best costume that I've seen in a bat-film. The problem with changing his suit colors to dark green and blue are that Batman used stealth a lot in BB and we'll probably see more in BB 2. So my point is, that black (the color of Bat-suit from BB) will help him hide in the darkness better and sort of camouflage in the night when he's confronting villains better. I don't know about you but to me dark blue and dark green don't look good on Batman especially in a dark Chris Nolan directed movie. Not to say that BB 2 will be dark so black is perfect, just keep the same costume from BB. No tweaks except for the cowl are needed in that department.

[StorminNorman]

For the first time I would have to agree with Stormin Normin. I have to say I found the costume from BB perfect, the best costume that I've seen in a bat-film. The problem with changing his suit colors to dark green and blue are that Batman used stealth a lot in BB and we'll probably see more in BB 2. So my point is, that black (the color of Bat-suit from BB) will help him hide in the darkness better and sort of camouflage in the night when he's confronting villains better. I don't know about you but to me dark blue and dark green don't look good on Batman especially in a dark Chris Nolan directed movie. Not to say that BB 2 will be dark so black is perfect, just keep the same costume from BB. No tweaks except for the cowl are needed in that department.

See, you have stopped making threads and thus you are now a decent poster. Congrats! and welcome to the Lightside!:up:

[Spider-Bite]

For the first time I would have to agree with Stormin Normin. I have to say I found the costume from BB perfect, the best costume that I've seen in a bat-film. The problem with changing his suit colors to dark green and blue are that Batman used stealth a lot in BB and we'll probably see more in BB 2. So my point is, that black (the color of Bat-suit from BB) will help him hide in the darkness better and sort of camouflage in the night when he's confronting villains better. I don't know about you but to me dark blue and dark green don't look good on Batman especially in a dark Chris Nolan directed movie. Not to say that BB 2 will be dark so black is perfect, just keep the same costume from BB. No tweaks except for the cowl are needed in that department.

That's a good post however I believe that any one of those I got up there would acheive the same effect, unless a flashlight is shining on him. You have to remember the color of something isn't the only determining factor in how much it blends in the darkness. Look at the black weblines on Spider-Man's costume. they reflect so much they practically look white in the first movie. In the second movie they changed it so it wouldn't be as reflective, but it still is reflective.

Look at how much light shines off of black cars as opposed to other colors. It's all about composition and chemical make up and texture. In my closet right now with the doors part way open there is a large brown piece of wood and a black jacket hanging up inside of my closet. the jacket is way easier to spot than the piece of wood, simply because of the way light reflects.

[Ronny Shade]

See, you have stopped making threads and thus you are now a decent poster. Congrats! and welcome to the Lightside!:up:
Never thought I'd live to see the day. We're all happy for you nolanrolin:up:

[Sandman138]

I like the suit. People got so worried about the hi-tech design of the chest and you barely notice it for most of the movie.

That's because for most of the movie he's just crouching or they're in a close up.

[javi1024]

alright first off I'm sorry if there is a thread on this. I used the search engine and couldn't find any threads on this.

Now I'm wondering if you guys think they should or shouldn't change Bats costume for the next movie. Also wondering if you think they are going to change it?

I think they should change it, but the change should be gradual from each movie to the next.

I kind of would like to see something along the lines of this.



http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e115/jason142/batscomile.jpg
umm.....yeah....if it aint broke, dont fix it.

and just so you know there are at least 5 threads on this subject.

[Michael Corleone]

I wouldnt be against some minor tweeks here and there. Like they did with say the Spider-man costume. If something ends up being bigger, smaller, maybe something that aides in the photography? I wont complain but the genearl design should stay the same.

Edit: If a change is made though it should be for cinematic purposes. Not just to change for change sake.

[Soundwave88]

Those are awesome ideas

[Thot]

My biggest gripe with the BB suit has been the cowl. I've never liked the odd bend to the ears which serves to make them look more cat-like than bat-like. They should be straightened and lengthened a bit. The mouth opening definitely needs to be expanded a bit. These changes would serve to give Bats a more "classic" look and make him more menacing looking, not to mention a better balanced, more asthetically pleasing appearance.

[Whack Arnolds]

I wouldn't mind if it did, but my feeling swouldn't be hurt if it wasn't. I mean, if the costume changes its not going to mean the film will have a different look or feel from the first one. That was one of the complaints of the original trilogy...the look never stayed the same. Whether it was Gotham, or the suit. We will have continuity in terms of the look of Gotham, the characters, etc. A little change in the bat-suit wouldn't do anyone any harm.

[BatScot]

I've never seen Batman wear red or green in the comic books.http://www.goldenagebatman.com/tec165a.jpg

... well at least now you've seen a green one ;)

[Anjow1060]

Aye aye aye! All this gripping and gripping about the cowl + the color of the suit. First of all, there was a new cowl, in case you didn't notice, the cowl is slightley altered @ Bats & Gordan's rooftop meeting at the end, the color change is un-warrented. There is no need to fill up screen time with explanation of why batman needs a dark blue suit.

My biggest problem? The Belt. Theres no way those little bombs fit in those condensed metal "pockets" on the side. I prefer the pouches Jim Lee style. Only problem is, i think that'll look crappy with the "Nomex survival suit". Nevertheless, I'd like to see a better belt. I don't know how, but i'd like to see it given a lil more plausabilty aside from being able to be the harness for the grappling hook.

[Mr. Socko]

I like the Metal belt. And you're right about the pouch belt.

But are you serious? Was the cowl different at the end?

[Keyser Sushi]

http://www.goldenagebatman.com/tec165a.jpg

... well at least now you've seen a green one ;)

Aha!

There you go, Spider-Bite: when it becomes necessary for Batman to glow in the dark, he can wear his patented LUMINOUS UNIFORM (TM).

Oh, that wacky Professor Radium...

[Mr. Socko]

Why in the world would Batman wear a LUMINOUS UNIFORM?

Too bad it wasn't included in Batman & Robin.

[Keyser Sushi]

Why in the world would Batman wear a LUMINOUS UNIFORM?

Too bad it wasn't included in Batman & Robin.

Yeah, it would have fit right in with the CHROME-PLATED JOHNSON UNIFORM. :o

[Mr. Socko]

Batman had a big crotch in B&R, anyone else notice that?

I bet it turned Schumacher on.

[Keyser Sushi]

Batman had a big crotch in B&R, anyone else notice that?

I bet it turned Schumacher on.

With the landing lights around it and all the extreme close-ups, it was hard not to. :(

[Warhammer]

Just slim the mask a little bit and it will be just fine.

Also, slightly slim the suit, just a little bit.

[Keyser Sushi]

Just slim the mask a little bit and it will be just fine.

Also, slightly slim the suit, just a little bit.

Also, don't. :up:

[Mr. Socko]

Don't what? Slim the suit?

Despite my fanboy wants and looking at the movie from Nolan's and the filmmaker's POVs. The suit only needs a few minor alterations. Nothing huge or drastic. It looks just fine, just make Batman's jaws a little smoother and not so round.

[Keyser Sushi]

Don't what? Slim the suit?

Don't do any of what Warhammer suggested. Batman should be BIG, dammit. That was the best thing about his appearance in Begins. He was BIG!

Despite my fanboy wants and looking at the movie from Nolan's and the filmmaker's POVs. The suit only needs a few minor alterations. Nothing huge or drastic. It looks just fine, just make Batman's jaws a little smoother and not so round.

I didn't think they were round at all?

[Punisher 04]

And the survey says......no!

I have the position of believeing it's not good to mess with a good thing and not to fix things unless their broken. The Bat-suit is good and not broken, so mitts off.

Agree, hell no!

[Super_Ludacris]

Really the utility belt could have a nice redesign or something

[Anjow1060]

Really the utility belt could have a nice redesign or something

EXACTLY! Thats we need, and should really discuss. Cuz honestly, i want an improved one, but for the life of me I can't think of diddle squat that would do it w/o looking like crap next to the kevlar suit.

PS: Mr. Socko, if you look at the end, the mask has a sleeker almost longer look to it, it's subtle, but it's definatly been altered a little bit.

[Whack Arnolds]

Don't do any of what Warhammer suggested. Batman should be BIG, dammit. That was the best thing about his appearance in Begins. He was BIG!!!Exactly. :up: He certainly didn't look like a pip squeek.

[Keyser Sushi]

Exactly. :up: He certainly didn't look like a pip squeek.

Right on. Batman's a heavyweight. He should LOOK like a heavyweight.

Evander Holyfield in a cape!

[Don Corleone]

keep it the same!!!! it aint broke so dont fix it, and the headpeice can't change, man, even if it does squash his cheeks, the dumb ass wayne bout 10000 didnt he? that would be a waste

[Mr. Socko]

He bought 10,000 of the front face pieces. Now the side jaw pieces.

And he's a billionaire so what's it matter...

[Two-Face]

Her could sell it since he owns the WE.

[Don Corleone]

He bought 10,000 of the front face pieces. Now the side jaw pieces.

And he's a billionaire so what's it matter...

yeah, you're right...i gotta stop drinkin

[Mr. Socko]

Lol, settle down on the booze.

[Sandman138]

http://img48.exs.cx/img48/1564/bb8em.jpg

This, minus the white eyes, is what I'd like to see. Similar to what we have, but a bit more organic and less patchworked.

[Mr. Socko]

The forehead looks a little too big.

But not to shabby.

[Sandman138]

Thanks to Bane.

[Mr. Socko]

...?

[Sandman138]

Artist on the boards who made that. I thought I should credit him.

[BatScot]

http://img48.exs.cx/img48/1564/bb8em.jpg

This, minus the white eyes, is what I'd like to see. Similar to what we have, but a bit more organic and less patchworked.Darken the logo a bit and... :up:

[Mr. Socko]

Artist on the boards who made that. I thought I should credit him.

Oh ok, I thought you were meaning "The" Bane.

[Wushuboy]

get rid of those darned aweful cape clips, make the mouth opening less round, cowl sleeker

[El Payaso]

get rid of those darned aweful cape clips, make the mouth opening less round, cowl sleeker

Agree, overall with the clasps thing.

[batmaluco]

Only minor changes, please. We don't want this kind of crap again:
http://www.goldenagecomix.net/detective/Detective241.jpg

[Odin's Lapdog]

it's going to change anywho, otherwise how are they going to get kids to buy the newer toys....

[Octoberist]

The suit should be more steamlined: In other words, more slender and slick looking. OTher than that, that it's.

[Captain Kirk]

The suit should be more steamlined: In other words, more slender and slick looking. OTher than that, that it's.

I agree we don't need a massive shift from Begins. Just keep it simple with minor changes. I hated how the last franchise changed every thing for the manor, to the cave ,and even the Batmobile. Just keep a tight cohesiveness to the series.:up:

[HughJackFan420]

no changes should be made they should just leave it alone

lets not get into the lame fancy upgrades like what happened after Batman Returns or after Michael Keaton left the first series of movies

[Ronny Shade]

Only minor changes, please. We don't want this kind of crap again:
http://www.goldenagecomix.net/detective/Detective241.jpg
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2248/wtf443396ri.jpg

[HughJackFan420]

/\yea my sediments exactly

but i would like to know why in that issue Batman had to change colors of costumes?

[Sandman138]

/\yea my sediments exactly

but i would like to know why in that issue Batman had to change colors of costumes?

Sediment: (noun) matter that settles to the bottom of a liquid; dregs.

Sentiment: (noun) a view of or attitude toward a situation or event; an opinion.

:o

[Captain Kirk]

Only minor changes, please. We don't want this kind of crap again:
http://www.goldenagecomix.net/detective/Detective241.jpg:D Silver Age Batman ya gotta love it!

[batmaluco]

but i would like to know why in that issue Batman had to change colors of costumes?
That crap was reprinted in Batman #182 (80 Page Giant #24) July - August, 1966. You can find a full review of this idiotic plot here:

http://silverage.greatnow.com/reviews/Batman_182a.htm

[javi1024]

honestly the only thing i want fixed is i wanna see scallops at the end of batmans cape ALL THE TIME. was i the only one bothered by this? batmans cape was always plain flat except when he was gliding and you could see his wing span. it pissed me off.

i wouldnt mind seeing a newly designed utility belt. i could deal with the same one, but would mind seeing bigger pockets- just to look more believable useful.

i dont see why people want a slimmer batman. last time i checked batman's pretty thick guy. and that goes the same for the neck of the cowl. hes meant to look for menacing, more threatening, so why would you want him smaller than the bad guys?

[Ronny Shade]

Sediment: (noun) matter that settles to the bottom of a liquid; dregs.

Sentiment: (noun) a view of or attitude toward a situation or event; an opinion.

:o
You should join the Grammar Squad. We're always looking for new members.

[batmaluco]

New and improved costume:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/Batmaluco/batman_lg.jpg