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ElectroFlare
04-07-2006, 11:37 AM
Should the film have the fire and sonics weaknesses of the comics symbiotes, if the symbiotes are indeed in the film? (I know they are everything but 100% confirmed, but I'm just playing it safe with my words)

I always thought those weaknesses were a little silly(at least the sonics) but they can make sense if explained properly. What do you guys think? Comic weaknesses, no weaknesses, or completely different weaknesses?
SpiderB
04-07-2006, 11:45 AM
I think the sonic weakness is very plausible and scientific. The weakness to fire of course makes sense too, but I dunno.... it seems a little too "duh".
Marty17
04-07-2006, 12:05 PM
If Venom has the fire weakness it won't be surprising. Giving that both Spider-Man films has a burning building or some sort. Can't kill him with sonic, kill him by pushing him in the fire.
black_dust
04-07-2006, 12:28 PM
Probs be Sonic as the church is in the film and all *Bong*
THWIP*
04-07-2006, 12:46 PM
Probs be Sonic as the church is in the film and all *Bong*


YES........DEATH BY BONG! :eek::up:

ISN'T THAT WHAT KILLED JOHN BELUSHI? :O
black_dust
04-07-2006, 12:56 PM
YES........DEATH BY BONG! :eek::up:

ISN'T THAT WHAT KILLED JOHN BELUSHI? :O
Nope that was a drug ball. coke and herion and what not :p
SsM
04-07-2006, 12:56 PM
YES........DEATH BY BONG! :eek::up:

ISN'T THAT WHAT KILLED JOHN BELUSHI? :O ROFL.. yet so wrong at the same time :eek:
superkong 500
04-07-2006, 01:13 PM
I think the sonic weaknnes makes logic so does the fire, but i think he shouldn't be killed by fire if spidey pushes hi minto fire venom should come out of it burning a bit but then put the flames out and proceed to kick the crap out of spidey. if venom isn't the main villain at least make him a strong almost invincible one just like the comics,strong and witty.
Silver Sable
04-07-2006, 03:13 PM
Do the symbiotes have water weakness?
Symbiotica
04-07-2006, 03:20 PM
What do you guys think? Comic weaknesses, no weaknesses, or completely different weaknesses?

I think that if Spidey shines a yellow light on the symbiote, its going to revert to its natural form: a pair of corduroys, one of those shiny Quiana shirts from the 70's made of polyester with the "realistic" print on it, and a pair of "desert" boots - you know, those tan suede ankle-boots guys used to wear back then.

You asked, so that is what I think.
GoldGoblin
04-07-2006, 04:01 PM
Seems like it will be loud sounds,since the bell from the church scene is in it.
Arcturus
04-07-2006, 04:06 PM
Do the symbiotes have water weakness?

No, where did you get that idea?
Silver Sable
04-07-2006, 04:08 PM
It was just a curiosity
Reikowolf
04-07-2006, 04:40 PM
I always liked the sonics idea, kind of reminded me of the whole high pitched noise and how dog's react... which for some reason reminds me of the Terminator (have no clue why). Anyhoo, As for fire, I always figured it would be high tempertures of any variety... like the Alien (damn 2 cameron references) extreme cold may work just as well?
Silverstein
04-07-2006, 04:56 PM
If it's indeed a symbiote, why shouldn't they make it as close as possible to in the comics? I mean Sam's probablly going to take a few liberties here and there anyway. So why not make certain things stay true?

Sonics and Fire should definately be a weakness. I think weaknesses make a character stronger. Venom would be incredibly freaky if nothing seems to be able to kill him, and then Spidey happens upon a bell tower or intense fire or something. Because then you'd be thinking "Well what if he didn't push Venom into the fire?" or "What if The bell tower couldn't stop him?"

If he doesn't have a specific weakness like that, then when Venom is defeated it would seem cheesey. Ah...he drowned. WTF Eddie can't swim? He got shot by police...WTF why didn't they shoot him to begin with? ETC etc..
Blackmouf2002
04-07-2006, 04:57 PM
I think the symbiote should be invincible to fire and some what to electricity. I've always liked the soonic idea. Something like what he^ said.
Nebins
04-07-2006, 05:48 PM
I don't see why he wouldn't have the same weakness. I like the sonic idea. The fire I'm not a huge fan of but whatever.
Spawn187
04-07-2006, 06:36 PM
I think the syms weaknes should be more complicated than fire because think about it pete woulndt want it if he cant save ppl from a burning building. The sonic wave or boom or breakfast borrito is a better idea.
Asr
04-07-2006, 07:01 PM
The sonics weakness is going to be hard to pull off convincingly IMO. A church bell? Are you kidding me? So Spidey and Venom are fighting somewhere in NYC and WHOA LOOK there's a church with bell! Explain to me why/how the bell would be struck.

There needs to be a better way to pull off the sound-wave that separates the symbiote from Brock.
Spawn187
04-07-2006, 07:02 PM
The sonics weakness is going to be hard to pull off convincingly IMO. A church bell? Are you kidding me? So Spidey and Venom are fighting somewhere in NYC and WHOA LOOK there's a church with bell! Explain to me why/how the bell would be struck.

There needs to be a better way to pull off the sound-wave that separates the symbiote from Brock.


There are more churches in nyc than mcdonalds.
black_dust
04-07-2006, 07:05 PM
The sonics weakness is going to be hard to pull off convincingly IMO. A church bell? Are you kidding me? So Spidey and Venom are fighting somewhere in NYC and WHOA LOOK there's a church with bell! Explain to me why/how the bell would be struck.

There needs to be a better way to pull off the sound-wave that separates the symbiote from Brock.
Im guessing the bell would be used to get the symbiote from Peter, then it goes onto Brock (in the curch below) then peter figures the whole thing about after about an hour, and asks Conners for help and he gives him a gun like off terminator :D
Asr
04-07-2006, 07:14 PM
There are more churches in nyc than mcdonalds.

Wow, my point flew past your brain completely. I was asking what would cause the bell to be struck, and be convincing.
Spawn187
04-07-2006, 07:17 PM
Wow, my point flew past your brain completely. I was asking what would cause the bell to be struck, and be convincing.

You must not know how bells work well, the bells at some churches ring every hour on the hour. They also ring for weddings funerals and other religious ceremonies.
Nathan
04-07-2006, 07:24 PM
He should have both weaknesses.

I don't see why the Symbiote should be invulnerable to fire or extreme heat. It's a black, gooey, alien parasite. If he gets near fire it gets burned, as simple as that.
Reikowolf
04-07-2006, 08:43 PM
Wow, my point flew past your brain completely. I was asking what would cause the bell to be struck, and be convincing.


Spider-Man and Venom have only fought in the bell tower once and Spidey wasn't able to ring the bell... also.. you're refering to the time Spidey removed the symbiote from his body... He rang the bell himself.. there was no Venom then.

But if you want convincing all that has to happen is one of them gets slammed against it in the course of the fight.

It's totally plausable for the fight to take place at a church... just like the final fight between GG and Spidey took place in an abandoned warehouse & ock vs spidey in an abandoned pier.
Venom.X
04-07-2006, 08:53 PM
Maybe the movie venom will take cues from Ultimate Venom. That Venom has no weaknesses like the 616 Venom but still electricity is effective against the suit.
ElectroFlare
04-07-2006, 11:45 PM
I think that if Spidey shines a yellow light on the symbiote, its going to revert to its natural form: a pair of corduroys, one of those shiny Quiana shirts from the 70's made of polyester with the "realistic" print on it, and a pair of "desert" boots - you know, those tan suede ankle-boots guys used to wear back then.

You asked, so that is what I think.

LOL! I should have known you would have come up with something like that Symbiotica...i was kinda waiting for it...
Symbiotica
04-07-2006, 11:50 PM
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Mr. Socko
04-07-2006, 11:53 PM
The sonic weakness should definitely be in. Don't know about Fire weakness, maybe. Err, I don't want another burning building scene.
Crimson Dynamo
04-19-2006, 02:22 AM
.... And the following is in all caps - on purpose.

IF SOME OF YOU ACTUALLY BROKE DOWN AND READ VENOM'S ORIGIN, YOU WOULD KNOW EXACTLY HOW! AND EXACTLY WHY! THE BELL IS TOLLED DURING THE FIRST THROW-DOWN BETWEEN BROCK AND SPIDEY. WHY ARE THEY IN A CHURCH?! WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?... WHY THEY'RE THERE IS THE *WHOLE STORY*, YOU DINGBATS.... IS IT SO HARD? SO DIFFICULT, TO READ ONE ISSUE.... WHY AM I BOTHERING, OBVIOUSLY I AM TALKING TO THIN AIR, TO PEOPLE WHO NEITHER KNOW, NOR EVEN CARE TO KNOW THE TRUTH.

Jeeeee-zus please-us, this is far beyond hopeless. Really. It is.

Somebody needs to take a chill-pill.
Casius--J
04-19-2006, 05:57 AM
I like the sonic weakness, always thought it was a cool weakness to have as its not the easiest thing to pull off. I never knew venom was weak against fire, i just assumed he was rock hard against everythin except sonic blasts.
Nathan
04-19-2006, 06:58 AM
Well, he's a liquid like Alien parasite. I'd be surprised if he were immune to fire.
Arcturus
04-19-2006, 06:32 PM
I think the symbiotes one weakness will be the craving for a jelly donut and a starbucks coffee after filming and all has wrapped up.
sag002
04-19-2006, 10:01 PM
Keep the weaknesses in. We need something to show that venom isnt immortal.
Mister Gone
04-21-2006, 11:30 AM
Hmmmm I could see fire, but again that would lead to the burning building syndrome. Sonics would be cool, and they could throw in a reference to FF lol. Like:
Spidey: "Have you figured out a way to stop this thing?"

Dr.Conners: "It only seems to respond to intense heat, or high intensity sonic waves."

Spidey: (being a student)"Wait! Isn't there an experimental sonic emitter in the lab?"

Dr.Conners: "Yes, of course, it's on loan from Prof. Richards! I'll get it for you."

Spidey: "What a ridiculous coincidence that not only do you have a sonic gun on hand, but I knew exactly where it was!"

Dr.Conners: "Yes, yes it is! If I didn't know any better I would think you attended classes here, and the only student that has gone to see the emitter was Pete....... Ahhhhhh my arm, what's happening!"

Spidey: "Dr.Conners, what's wrong? You look a little green."

:D