The Official '52' Thread

[SonOfCthulhu]

Ok, I know this is like 52 issues long but anyone else feel this book is moving a bit too slow. Think of it this way, think of everything you can get done in a week.

Exactly my point about nixing the "History of DC Universe" as a backup feature to provide more pages for 52.

[Darthphere]

Exactly my point about nixing the "History of DC Universe" as a backup feature to provide more pages for 52.


They shouldve made it a Secret Files type book.

[Purple Man]

Why'd they do this?

Because wanting to read the new history of the DC Universe will get people buying 52. Some people will buy it just for the history lesson and will end up getting hooked to the main story.

It's a rather clever idea.

[Darthphere]

Why'd they do this?

Because wanting to read the new history of the DC Universe will get people buying 52. Some people will buy it just for the history lesson and will end up getting hooked to the main story.

It's a rather clever idea.


Not really.:confused:

[Purple Man]

People want to know what happend during the missing year, and people want to know the history of the New Earth.

Two birds, one stone.

Or for you literals: Two questions answered with one book.

[Darthphere]

People want to know what happend during the missing year, and people want to know the history of the New Earth.

Two birds, one stone.

Or for you literals: Two questions answered with one book.


I dont think its a huge selling point. If youre reading 52, youre reading it because you want to know what happened that year and/or are intrigued by the concept. I highly doubt people are buying it exclusively for the history of the DCU backstory.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm not buying it exclusively for the history, but I like that it's included. I loved reading the post-CoIE History of the DC Universe trade. Plus Alex Ross' cover for it is awesome.

[Darthphere]

I'm not buying it exclusively for the history, but I like that it's included. I loved reading the post-CoIE History of the DC Universe trade. Plus Alex Ross' cover for it is awesome.


Would you buy it if it was made into a Secret Files? And you get 4 more extra pages of story in 52?

[Purple Man]

I would, but since the writers don't need those four extra pages. I'm glad I don't have to pay extra for a history of the DC Universe book.

I'm getting my cake and eating it too.

[Darthphere]

I would, but since the writers don't need those four extra pages. I'm glad I don't have to pay extra for a history of the DC Universe book.

I'm getting my cake and eating it too.


I disagree #2 really needed those 4 extra pages.

[yenaled]

Anyone want to fill me in on why the Metal Men "don't work" anymore?

My guess is he just hasn't been repairing them, so for the time being they are just out of action.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Probably. I guess you stuck your head in the sand and let the greatness of Gotham Central pass you by, huh? :(

i read the issues concerning the robin suicides.

[TheCorpulent1]

You should pick up the trades if you can afford them. Best series from the mainstream DCU in a long time, as far as I'm concerned.

[Darthphere]

You should pick up the trades if you can afford them. Best series from the mainstream DCU in a long time, as far as I'm concerned.


I concur.

[BrianWilly]

Ok, I know this is like 52 issues long but anyone else feel this book is moving a bit too slow. Think of it this way, think of everything you can get done in a week.Considering that we're getting one new issue every single week, I really don't understand why anyone would think the story is moving slowly. I'd understand if it was a monthly, but we've gotten a lot of story progress for two week's worth.

[SonOfCthulhu]

I disagree #2 really needed those 4 extra pages.

I agree with this. And a separate "new" History of the DC universe could have a "new" Alex Ross cover to go with it. :) That way everybody wins (except poor Alex's hands.)

[SonOfCthulhu]

My guess is he just hasn't been repairing them, so for the time being they are just out of action.

That would really stink if they had fallen apart while rescuing someone.

[Darthphere]

Considering that we're getting one new issue every single week, I really don't understand why anyone would think the story is moving slowly. I'd understand if it was a monthly, but we've gotten a lot of story progress for two week's worth.


Thats the thing, it took The Question 2 weeks to get into Montoya's apartment and lure her into his old warehouse? Im not complaining about the pace, I realize we have 52 weeks, but some of this stuff is moving at a snails pace. It took Ralph a week and a half to get to Sue's tombstone?

[Purple Man]

From the end of the first issue it took the Question four days to finally bust his way into Montoyas apartment.

And it was three days between when we saw Ralph get the news about Sues grave to when we see him taking the pictures. Note he may have already been to the grave already, just this time he brought his camera. but that might be stretching for excuses.

[Darthphere]

From the end of the first issue it took the Question four days to finally bust his way into Montoyas apartment.

And it was three days between when we saw Ralph get the news about Sues grave to when we see him taking the pictures. Note he may have already been to the grave already, just this time he brought his camera. but that might be stretching for excuses.


Ok, thanks for clearing up the time line but you agree that its way too long?

[Purple Man]

Not way too long. But a bit longer than I expected.

But of course you can't expect too much to happen during one week. Each week is given the same amount of pages so the pace will have to be slowed down a bit.

I find this only a minor hiccup in what is already looking to be a great series.

[Darthphere]

Not way too long. But a bit longer than I expected.

But of course you can't expect too much to happen during one week. Each week is given the same amount of pages so the pace will have to be slowed down a bit.

I find this only a minor hiccup in what is already looking to be a great series.


I agree.

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe they all had their reasons for taking so long. Maybe the Question was just waiting for Montoya to hit absolute rock-bottom or something.

On the other side of the coin, some things are going pretty goddamn fast if you think about it. Cassie learned Kryptonian, built a shrine to Conner, and started a cult in two weeks? :confused:

[yenaled]

That would really stink if they had fallen apart while rescuing someone.

I could actually see that happening in an issue of Metal Men :D

[TheCorpulent1]

I wonder if Will Magnus will rebuild the Metal Men. Something tells me that might be another future mini-series from DC. After we've all forgotten that the Metal Men are gone but Will's still out there doing his thing, bam! DC brings out Will Magnus & the All-New Metal Men #1 (of 6). :)

[yenaled]

I'd LOVE that :D

Apparantly Grant Morisson, Mark Waid and Geoff Johns are massive fans of the Metal Men. So I wouldn't be surprised to see them in 52 quite a bit.

The retcon of Will Magnus dying and becoming Verillium, and the seemingly retcon of the Metal Men not being Androids but the souls of Soldiers inside metal bodies is welcome.

But I'd definatly but a miniseries, maybe after all the Brave New World stuff is over and done with.

[SonOfCthulhu]

I've had a moment of clarity on the "missing scientists" plotline. I think I got the why they are being taken.

I believe that they are going to be used to turn Red Tornado's body into the new "superhero" Supernova.

Now the mystery is who is behind the abductions. One of those hands grabbing Silvana looked like Killer Croc's to me. The other had white "fur" and claws?

[TheCorpulent1]

Red Tornado as Supernova = lame.

[SonOfCthulhu]

Red Tornado as Supernova = lame.

As a plotline, I agree. I like RT and would love to see him treated to some front and center time. Instead he's been scrapped.

[TheCorpulent1]

Or it's that "Red Inferno" Morrow talked about.

[GoldenAgeHero]

if it comes out to be true corp, dont say i didnt tell ya so. I'll probbaly still rub it in your face, tho.

[Darthphere]

if it comes out to be true corp, dont say i didnt tell ya so. I'll probbaly still rub it in your face, tho.


That sounds really homosexual.

[Anubis]

And not in a good way.

[TheCorpulent1]

if it comes out to be true corp, dont say i didnt tell ya so. I'll probbaly still rub it in your face, tho.
It probably will be true. You seem to have a knack for sniffing out all of DC's worst ideas before they actually **** up the comics with them.

[That-Guy]

The first two issues of this series have really been great... whereas some of the OYL stuff has been a little... lackluster, IMO. Is anyone else seriously considering dropping the rest of their DC titles for the year and just getting 52? (Considering how expensive this would be if you just added this series regularly along with everything else).

[TheCorpulent1]

Um... no? I can afford 52 along with my other comics.

[ToddIsDead]

I'll be getting 52 along with all of my other stuff, but I tell you, I could probably just live with 52, Batman, Detective, Superman, and Action, but that's not going to happen.

[Darthphere]

The first two issues of this series have really been great... whereas some of the OYL stuff has been a little... lackluster, IMO. Is anyone else seriously considering dropping the rest of their DC titles for the year and just getting 52? (Considering how expensive this would be if you just added this series regularly along with everything else).


If you cant afford the extra $10 a month, you have bigger problems than just affording comics.

[That-Guy]

Okay, it's not THAT much money. And yes, I can afford it. I guess its just the whole weekly thing that makes it seem like a lot. But you're right, it really isn't. My point is... is anyone else finding this to be a lot more intriguing than the OYL stuff?

[ToddIsDead]

Not really. A lot of the OYL books have been pretty interesting. This series could end up being a classic though. It's been really good so far.

[Darthphere]

Okay, it's not THAT much money. And yes, I can afford it. I guess its just the whole weekly thing that makes it seem like a lot. But you're right, it really isn't. My point is... is anyone else finding this to be a lot more intriguing than the OYL stuff?


Depends on the book. The Batman and SUperman books are great, Aquaman is awesome. Nightwing sucks.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think they're about the same. OYL has mostly been good except for a few titles, and 52 has been good except for the fact that the pacing is pretty slow.

[regwec]

Okay, I'm late reading this but, briefly...how many DC characters are lesbians now? It seems like practically every other female.

[The Leaguer]

Um, just Montoya, I think. Who else is one?

[ToddIsDead]

I can't think of any off of the top of my head.

[Fledermaus]

Scandal and Knockout.
Isn't Maggie Sawyer a lesbian too?
Holly, the new Catwoman.
I think Poison Ivy is bisexual.

[The BatDude]

I think they're about the same. OYL has mostly been good except for a few titles, and 52 has been good except for the fact that the pacing is pretty slow.
yeah it does feel like the writers are their sweet ass time but then again they do have 52 issue to do.

[MaskedManJRK]

Okay, I'm late reading this but, briefly...how many DC characters are lesbians now? It seems like practically every other female.

Holly Robinson
Maggie Sawyer
Renee Montoya
Fire & Ice (they're both considered at least bi)

That's all I can think of.

[The Question]

Fire & Ice (they're both considered at least bi)


Ice is dead. And besides her afections for Ice (which seemed more sisterly than anything else), Fire's never shown any homosexual tendancies.

[MaskedManJRK]

Ice is dead. And besides her afections for Ice (which seemed more sisterly than anything else), Fire's never shown any homosexual tendancies.

*coughcough*

http://www.gayleague.com/gay/characters/images/0013-1.gif

:o

[The Question]

Wrong Ice. That's Ice Maiden. She took Ice's place on the League after she died.

[MaskedManJRK]

Wrong Ice. That's Ice Maiden. She took Ice's place on the League after she died.

There were two ice people?

Jesus, did DC have writers block and decide to make a clone or something? :o

[The Question]

Well, one is the cutsie and mildly naive princess of a hidden kingdom in Norway (Christ, that's like the fourth hidden kingdom DC has. Either their really ****ing smart or the DCU scientists are ****ing retarded).


Ice Maiden is a bi-sexual mutant. Or something.

[Assassin]

Kid devils powers should be explained here instead of Teen Titans (Dan Mishkin told me they're gonna be explained in teen titans)

[SonOfCthulhu]

Tomorrow's cover looks all kinds of meh. Let's hope the insides are really good.

[Darthphere]

Tomorrow's cover looks all kinds of meh. Let's hope the insides are really good.


LOL! Poor guy cant deliver perfection everytime.

[regwec]

I should add that I am thoroughly enjoying 52 so far- it seems to be exactly the right blend of characters to take us through the journey to DC Noveau.

[MaskedManJRK]

Well, at least we know why Luthor killed Alexander and how he seems to be getting off of his crimes OYL...

[Lord Blackbolt]

Not much happened in this issue. Black Adamn once again showed his badassery though. Is badassery a word?

[Anubis]

If it isn't it f**king should be.

[Jono87]

Not much happened in this issue. Black Adamn once again showed his badassery though. Is badassery a word?

In the case of BA, absolutely

[Tamanon]

52 didn't have much action but Luthor really showed his genius and Black Adam his strength of will. Good issue, wonder what's going to really happen with Booster.

[samurai black]

this ish was better than 2. didn't know that IC casulaties were in the millions. question. haven't been following booster gold's story. has he always been this self serving? it seems losing your best friend would give you a reality check.

[Tamanon]

this ish was better than 2. didn't know that IC casulaties were in the millions. question. haven't been following booster gold's story. has he always been this self serving? it seems losing your best friend would give you a reality check.

Well for a while there he was. He and Beetle were really good buds also, so he was devoted at times. That's why I'm thinking this isn't the same Booster Gold from Countdown. Something just seems off about him.

[samurai black]

yeah i know that's it a year later but he should still be grievieng, i don't know maybe he's using all that money for good. I'm interested to see how superclark feels about such a selfish hero protecting his city whiel he's powerless.

[TheCorpulent1]

Booster went to the future and came back. We don't know how much time he spent in the future. For all we know, he took 5 years to get over Beetle's death in the future, then finally had Skeets download historical records and came back, determined to not let Beetle's death be in vain.

I imagine Clark would be just fine with Booster protecting the city. He may be self-serving but he's always done a pretty good job as a hero when he wasn't being played strictly for laughs. Hell, he was first accepted onto the League for single-handedly taking down the Royal Flush Gang. Plus, if anyone's gonna look past surface faults and have faith in a questionable hero, it's Clark.

[Purple Man]

It's not a coincidence.

BA= Black Adam

BA = Bad Ass

Black Adam = Bad Ass

I'm going to start referring to him as BABA, Bad Ass Black Adam.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's not a very badass acronym. In fact, I think it's most babies' first utterance. :(

[Purple Man]

Because even babies know the power of Black Adam and secretly want to squish faces with their hands and rip people in half whenever they're cranky.

[Emerald Knight]

That's not a very badass acronym. In fact, I think it's most babies' first utterance. :(

no...they just know who's in charge. :o

;)

[Darthphere]

Because even babies know the power of Black Adam and secretly want to squish faces with their hands and rip people in half whenever they're cranky.


True.

[Newb]

Because even babies know the power of Black Adam and secretly want to squish faces with their hands and rip people in half whenever they're cranky.

I nominate Black Adam for God!

[MaskedManJRK]

I nominate Black Adam for God!

Guys, I think that went a bit too far. That's REALLY sacreligious. :(

...

Besides, we all know Christopher Walken is God already. :o

[Newb]

Guys, I think that went a bit too far. That's REALLY sacreligious. :(

...

Besides, we all know Christopher Walken is God already. :o

We'll see who throws down on who.

[Assassin]

dc finally gets an arab character who doesnt wear a turban or blow up planes

:up:





i dont get whats up with the pointy ears tho..

[MaskedManJRK]

dc finally gets an arab character who doesnt wear a turban or blow up planes

:up:





i dont get whats up with the pointy ears tho..

Maybe Vulcans made first contact to Earth further back than the Enterprise realized...:o

[TheCorpulent1]

dc finally gets an arab character who doesnt wear a turban or blow up planes

:up:





i dont get whats up with the pointy ears tho..
Talib Ben Khali doesn't wear a turban or blow up planes. Neither did Naif al-Sheikh. In fact, the latter probably had more integrity than a lot of the WASP superheroes we've seen.

[Assassin]

Talib Ben Khali doesn't wear a turban or blow up planes. Neither did Naif al-Sheikh. In fact, the latter probably had more integrity than a lot of the WASP superheroes we've seen.

who?

[GoldenAgeHero]

black adam is meh. i liked him in jsa but it seems he's getting to mainstream.

[DraconicLord]

I dont know if I like that Superman's history is now inverted.
Earth-Two's Kal-L having never been Superboy and instead it was Kal-El who was

[Newb]

I dont know if I like that Superman's history is now inverted.
Earth-Two's Kal-L having never been Superboy and instead it was Kal-El who was

??

Kal-L was never Superboy.

Wait a minute, neither was Kal-El.

Now I'm confused...

Did they swap?

[MaskedManJRK]

??

Kal-L was never Superboy.

Wait a minute, neither was Kal-El.

Now I'm confused...

Did they swap?

From what I understand, it was not Earth-1 that had the young Clark Kent as Superboy, while Earth-2 was where he didn't put on a costume until his adult years.

[Newb]

Ah yes, of course!

[Darthphere]

black adam is meh. i liked him in jsa but it seems he's getting to mainstream.


Not really, hes just rivaling Dr. Doom in badassness.

[yenaled]

Black Adam rules.

I liked the John Irons and Lex stuff.

I also love the fact that Rip Hunter might turn up :D

Also, a character called Dr. Cyclops was in the list of hyjacked mad scientists (#2). Someone did a bit of research and found out that he has appeared in one comic ever. A Dial H for Hero comic...

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/41060355406.164.GIF

Notice the middle Superhero.

Though it is probably just a coincidence, I would like Supernova to be Robby Reed rather than Red Tornado or any of the other suggestions.

[The Question]

Reed moght be interesting. He still retains some powers from the dial, right?

[yenaled]

Yeah he internalised the powers in the (incredibly under appreciated) Pfeifer series.

[marcofthebeast]

Originally Posted by Assassin
dc finally gets an arab character who doesnt wear a turban or blow up planes

:up:





i dont get whats up with the pointy ears tho..

Considering that Black Adams been a character since 1945 and a Dc character since 73', I don't think finally would be the apropriate word.

[Agentdemon]

Was Black Adam always this brutal? I never followed his history. I have to wonder if there going to do what AC #775 did with the elite's way of dealing with criminals and superman's.

[Nightwing]

Black Adam was great in JSA, Infinite Crisis, and now without doubt, in 52. Issue #3 was another issue worth reading like the first two...

[TheCorpulent1]

who?
Checkmate's new Black King and the head of the "good" Elite, respectively.

[Purple Man]

black adam is meh. i liked him in jsa but it seems he's getting to mainstream.

I always love that argument.

It's usually stated by people who have been a long time fan of a character that no longer feels the closeness that they felt before the character was so widely adored. Like the new fans don't understand what you loved about the character before he went "main stream".

[yenaled]

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8178/wf178g.jpg

Also that is too coincidental to be passed off. Superman took the name SUpernova when he lost his powers and Batman and Robin trained him.

[marcofthebeast]

^ I forgot all about that. The costume is also very similar.

[yenaled]

Yeah the logo on the chest and the mask is the same.

[Doc Destruction]

Oh man, Bobby Reed would be GREAT! I freaking loved that run.

[The Question]

Yeah he internalised the powers in the (incredibly under appreciated) Pfeifer series.

That series kicked major ass. It, Denny O'Neil's Question series, and DeMattes' Spectre series are three of my DC favorites.

Was Black Adam always this brutal? I never followed his history.

Yes. Black Adam has the aditude and methods of an ancient egyptian warrior. Basically, kill or be killed is his veiw of life. He lacks any of the social mores that we as a western culture have developed.

I have to wonder if there going to do what AC #775 did with the elite's way of dealing with criminals and superman's.

Probably. Although, the Elite are a bit different. They were alot more reckless. Basically undisciplined street punks thinking it would be cool to play vigilante protector. Adam is alot smarter.

[GoldenAgeHero]

btw was that wonder woman in the pages of 52 where black adam was giving his speech where he killed the dude in the air cycle. she was wearinga red jacket.

[The Question]

I don't think os. I thought it was Lois. And the dude he killed was Terra Man. Old Superman villain.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's Lois. A guy refers to her as "Lois."

[Spike_x1]

What in the world was the point of bringing in the oldschool Terrra-Man? The post-crisis TM is a completely different character with a completely different gimmick.

If the now dead Terra-Man was actually named Toby Manning, my brain will explode. If he was Manning, it'd mean that he was brought back, scrapping the Terra-Man's previous activities and personality that he's established since the 80's. And the only reason he was brought back, and possibly screwed up continuity surrounding yet another classic Superman villain, was so that he could die?

Do writers even consider continuity anymore, or do they just script the very first thought that comes to mind which gives them a chance to bring back some glimmer of the Silver Age?

[Pksoze]

What in the world was the point of bringing in the oldschool Terrra-Man? The post-crisis TM is a completely different character with a completely different gimmick.

If the now dead Terra-Man was actually named Toby Manning, my brain will explode. If he was Manning, it'd mean that he was brought back, scrapping the Terra-Man's previous activities and personality that he's established since the 80's. And the only reason he was brought back, and possibly screwed up continuity surrounding yet another classic Superman villain, was so that he could die?

Do writers even consider continuity anymore, or do they just script the very first thought that comes to mind which gives them a chance to bring back some glimmer of the Silver Age?


That Terra Man probably got retconned because of the New Earth.

Continuity has changed...

[The Question]

What in the world was the point of bringing in the oldschool Terrra-Man? The post-crisis TM is a completely different character with a completely different gimmick.

If the now dead Terra-Man was actually named Toby Manning, my brain will explode. If he was Manning, it'd mean that he was brought back, scrapping the Terra-Man's previous activities and personality that he's established since the 80's. And the only reason he was brought back, and possibly screwed up continuity surrounding yet another classic Superman villain, was so that he could die?

Do writers even consider continuity anymore, or do they just script the very first thought that comes to mind which gives them a chance to bring back some glimmer of the Silver Age?


Yes. I know. Geoff Johns' obsession with the silver age can be painful at times. What was Terra Man's deal post crisis?

[Spike_x1]

That Terra Man probably got retconned because of the New Earth.

Continuity has changed...I'm aware of that likely possibility, but it doesn't make his appearance any less pointless and frustrating. The Terra-Man shows up with all these new changes, both in personality and method, seemingly just for the sake of it (the worst possible kind of change that a writer can come up with IMO). And then he just dies? If that's the end result of the Terra-Man, what was the point in making such drastic changes in the first place?Yes. I know. Geoff Johns' obsession with the silver age can be painful at times. What was Terra Man's deal post crisis?He was what Poison Ivy is to Batman. He had the whole plant theme going on, but he still had the cowboy personality. He controlled plants through weapons that he carried around.

[The Question]

A cowboy Poison Ivy, eh? Intriguing.

[Nightwing]

Dan Didio spoke more about who the new Batwoman is, and how she excatly fits into the Bat mythos. Click here (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72016) to read the interview.

[Pksoze]

I'm aware of that likely possibility, but it doesn't make his appearance any less pointless and frustrating. The Terra-Man shows up with all these new changes, both in personality and method, seemingly just for the sake of it (the worst possible kind of change that a writer can come up with IMO). And then he just dies? If that's the end result of the Terra-Man, what was the point in making such drastic changes in the first place?He was what Poison Ivy is to Batman. He had the whole plant theme going on, but he still had the cowboy personality. He controlled plants through weapons that he carried around.



The point is they probably don't care.... how many years has it been 10 I think Hagan was introduced what in 1990 or 91. They figure 95% of fans wont care either.


And I doubt they think its a drastic change they're bringing back the real Terra Man in their eyes... like Rudy is the real Parasite to you.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Dan Didio spoke more about who the new Batwoman is, and how she excatly fits into the Bat mythos. Click here (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72016) to read the interview.

ugh, im not really looking forward to that 52 issue or any fture issues featuring her.:down

[Spike_x1]

The point is they probably don't care.... how many years has it been 10 I think Hagan was introduced what in 1990 or 91. They figure 95% of fans wont care either.I think it's plainly obvious that they don't care about bad characterizations or disrupting continuity (just as long as they can get their precious glimpse back to the Silver Age), but does that mean that I, or anyone else who's fond of Superman's post-crisis rogues, shouldn't care either?And I doubt they think its a drastic change they're bringing back the real Terra Man in their eyes... like Rudy is the real Parasite to you.If they don't consider that a drastic change to a character, then I really don't want to see what they do consider drastic.

And I still don't see their point in bringing back the old Terra-Man, at the expense of continuity, if all they were going to do was kill him off.

[cerealkiller182]

I think it's plainly obvious that they don't care about bad characterizations or disrupting continuity (just as long as they can get their precious glimpse back to the Silver Age), but does that mean that I, or anyone else who's fond of Superman's post-crisis rogues, shouldn't care either?If they don't consider that a drastic change to a character, then I really don't want to see what they do consider drastic.

And I still don't see their point in bringing back the old Terra-Man, at the expense of continuity, if all they were going to do was kill him off.

well if they brought him back and then killed him, then it didnt really matter that they brought him back at all.

[Spike_x1]

But it does matter. They screwed yet another Superman villain by disrupting continuity, disregarding the character's personality and methods which he has had since the 80's, and then killing him off. That makes every change that they made even more pointless. Why bother making the changes and bastardizing the character if his only reason for being in the story is to die?

[The Question]

Le sigh. Why oh why do all of Superman's villains besides Brainiac and Luthor get the shaft? Parasite? Dead. Metallo? Powerless. Atomic Skull? Dead. Zod? I don't even know what the **** Zod's status is these days. He's like DC's Magneto, except infinately less popular.

[Shawkur]

I like Black Adam as much the next guy but I cant believe no one in the superhero community is going to hold him responsible for his actions as a member of the Society. At the very least Damage and The Ray should team-up to try to get some payback for the Freedom Fighters.

[Roma]

Has it been mentioned anywhere yet if Wonder Girl will be appearing more in this series ???

[Shawkur]

Cassie appeared in week two, is likely to appear again, and Troia seems to be the main character in the History of the DCU back-up features.

[Emerald Knight]

I like Black Adam as much the next guy but I cant believe no one in the superhero community is going to hold him responsible for his actions as a member of the Society. At the very least Damage and The Ray should team-up to try to get some payback for the Freedom Fighters.

Diplomatic immunity :o

[TheCorpulent1]

That doesn't protect him from vengeful superheroes.

[Emerald Knight]

That doesn't protect him from vengeful superheroes.

*sigh.* :( damn I failed at the Lethal Weapon 2 joke...

[The Question]

Diplomatic immunity :o


Ray shoots Adam's papers out of his hands.

"You're diplomatic imunity's been revoked."



:o

[Emerald Knight]

Ray shoots Adam's papers out of his hands.

"You're diplomatic imunity's been revoked."



:o

LMAO! :D :up:

[Shawkur]

That doesn't protect him from vengeful superheroes.

Yeah, and the United States should have a problem with him taking part in the slaughter of their superhero operatives and executing a man without do process on their soil. They might not be able to arrest him, but I would assume they can atleast close down his embassy in the US.

[TheCorpulent1]

Couldn't the UN prosecute him anyway, diplomatic-immunity-be-damned?

[The Question]

Well, since he was aprihended over his airspace and commited crimes near his airspace, I think he had the legal authority to try and punish him as he saw fight. Although, my knowledge of international law is a bit lacking, so I amd probably wrong.

[yenaled]

Technically, he hasn't done anything wrong by UN standards.

All he has to say is that his country has the death penalty and Terra Man is a known criminal. It's not lethal injection, but still.

[TheCorpulent1]

I guess he would have jurisdiction over Terra-Man's punishment. I hadn't thought of that.

[Nightwing]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/Batwoman/batwoman2.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/Batwoman/batwoman.jpg

[Fledermaus]

Nice. Where did you find those? But I still hate that ****in' mask.

[Darthphere]

The faster this character is killed off the better IMO.

[Jono87]

The faster this character is killed off the better IMO.
Thats a shame. There is so little that we know and you already want her gone. The only thing about her that makes me sad is that she plays for the other team instead of mine. Bummer.

[Darthphere]

Thats a shame. There is so little that we know and you already want her gone. The only thing about her that makes me sad is that she plays for the other team instead of mine. Bummer.


The thing is I see her becoming stale really fast, theres a reason why Batwoman hasnt been around post crisis. Making her a lesbian isnt a problem for me excpet for the fact it seems like they just made her lesbian to make her different. I see her going the way of Jason Todd.

[The Question]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/Batwoman/batwoman2.jpg


http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/Batwoman/batwoman.jpg





Cool. So, Batwoman isn't Montoya. Interesting. I was......




Is The Question fighting a monkey? Dude, I know DC's got super stuff, but The Question's always been from the point of veiw of it being rather rare comparatively speaking and usually happening in places that have a reason for it, like Central Cuty or Metropolis since Superman and Flash's presences inadvertently encourage metahuman mercs and criminals to try their hands there. And, like, it's a ****ing monkey. :confused:

[SonOfCthulhu]

Cool. So, Batwoman isn't Montoya. Interesting. I was......




Is The Question fighting a monkey? Dude, I know DC's got super stuff, but The Question's always been from the point of veiw of it being rather rare comparatively speaking and usually happening in places that have a reason for it, like Central Cuty or Metropolis since Superman and Flash's presences inadvertently encourage metahuman mercs and criminals to try their hands there. And, like, it's a ****ing monkey. :confused:

Looks more like a gorilla. Two of them to be exact.

And the Batwoman stuff looks gay. :D (Someone had to do the obvious joke. That someone is me.)

[Nightwing]

Nice. Where did you find those? But I still hate that ****in' mask.

Newsarama had the two page preview here. (http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/Batwoman/preview.html) The mask resembles that of the original Kathy Kane, but with a slight modefication. The art looks great nonetheless.

The faster this character is killed off the better IMO.

Doesn't seem likely that they will anytime soon. After her appearence in 52, it's looking like DC has a few plans for her.

Is The Question fighting a monkey? Dude, I know DC's got super stuff, but The Question's always been from the point of veiw of it being rather rare comparatively speaking and usually happening in places that have a reason for it, like Central Cuty or Metropolis since Superman and Flash's presences inadvertently encourage metahuman mercs and criminals to try their hands there. And, like, it's a ****ing monkey. :confused:

Looks more like a cheetah and a lion, along with a gorilla in the back.

[Bullseye]

I'm kinda liking the idea for Batwoman.

If I'm not mistaken, will there be a Batwoman ongoing series?

[Nightwing]

I'm kinda liking the idea for Batwoman.

If I'm not mistaken, will there be a Batwoman ongoing series?

Comicscontinuum reported that there would be one a few months back. We'll just have to wait and see how well she fares in 52, to see if the idea is still proposed.

[Black Panther]

i got a question for some of you, was issue 4 delayed? :confused: I didn't find it when I went to my shop, and I'm missing issue 2 of the damn series. :(

Nice. Where did you find those? But I still hate that ****in' mask.

The mask resembles that of the original Kathy Kane, but with a slight modefication. The art looks great nonetheless.

I agree with both Fledermaus and Batman. :D

[deathshead2]

i got a question for some of you, was issue 4 delayed? :confused: I didn't find it when I went to my shop, and I'm missing issue 2 of the damn series. :(





I agree with both Fledermaus and Batman. :DIf your in the good old US of A all comics are shiping this Thursday thats why 4 wasn't at your shop.

[Black Panther]

If your in the good old US of A all comics are shiping this Thursday thats why 4 wasn't at your shop.

Dammit. :( Anyway, thanks. I'm exactly 9 hours away from having it in my hands.

BTW dude, where's your avvy from? That's like the coolest thing I've seen, lol. :eek:

[deathshead2]

The new Ghost Rider teaser its sweet cant wait to see the movie next year.If you havn't seen it yet go to Itunes or quicktime and they should have it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Thanks, that was totally random. :up:

That better not be Gorilla Grodd in the back there. It's bad enough Batman beats the crap out of people he has no business beating, but if even the unproven Bat-newbies start doing it now, I'm gonna be upset. :(

[Fledermaus]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/Batwoman/batwoman2.jpg

Those are probably the animal goons that kidnapped Sivana and the other scientists.

[TheCorpulent1]

The scientists were captured by animal goons?

[Tojo]

Hmmm, these pictures have made me horny. Damn.

[Spike_x1]

Thanks, that was totally random. :up:

That better not be Gorilla Grodd in the back there. It's bad enough Batman beats the crap out of people he has no business beating, but if even the unproven Bat-newbies start doing it now, I'm gonna be upset. :(Exactly what I was thinking :(.

[Fledermaus]

The scientists were captured by animal goons?

The panel showed some animal hands during the kidnapping of Sivana. I'm just connecting the dots.

[Darthphere]

The scientists were captured by animal goons?



Manimals.:confused:

[Anubis]

Sweet

[SonOfCthulhu]

Manimals.:confused:

Ani-men? Damn, wrong company. :confused:

[Darthphere]

Ani-men? Damn, wrong company. :confused:



LOL!

[GoldenAgeHero]

anyways, i justread this weeks issue. the whole thing seems kinda absurd. now you have regular people out there searching for the superheroes, getting on this knowledge of the zeta beam,etc. i wouldprefer if ti was just the superhero community who knew of such information,not the regular citizens. and the whole thing with cassie seems retarded, she gathersa bunch of people who understands kryptonian? when the hell did these people get a hold of this information?!

im thinking about dropping this book.

[The Question]

I'm guessing they just looked it up on the internet. I mean, you can find out alot of stuff on the internet. I doubt Superman keeps all of that to himself. He's probably given the language to the S.T.A.R. lab guys.

[GoldenAgeHero]

but information like that should be classified and it'll be stupid of superman just to let that info out like that. look at what lex luthor is doing with it.

[The Question]

Why would it be stupid? It's a dead language. And Superman has no way of knowing that there are any other Kryptonian artifacts on Earth.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Why would it be stupid? It's a dead language. And Superman has no way of knowing that there are any other Kryptonian artifacts on Earth.

which is another thing thats stupid. howcan a world explode and still have artifacts still around? can you honestly tell me that if the earth blew up, my shorts will survive the blast? and yes it is a dead language which furtherproves my point how the **** would anyone know what kryptonian is when first its an alien language from an entirely different galaxy and secondly its a dead language.

[The Question]

which is another thing thats stupid. howcan a world explode and still have artifacts still around? can you honestly tell me that if the earth blew up, my shorts will survive the blast?

The artifacts from Krypton Lex found came to Earth decades before Krypton blew.

and yes it is a dead language which furtherproves my point how the **** would anyone know what kryptonian is when first its an alien language from an entirely different galaxy and secondly its a dead language.

Clark was the first to learn Kryptonese. The language, plus a bunch of historical data in regards to Krypton, was downloaded into his brain by the ship about twenty years after he crashed. He probably taught the S.T.A.R. labs scientists or someone how to speak it and gave them some of the tech.

[GoldenAgeHero]

The artifacts from Krypton Lex found came to Earth decades before Krypton blew.



Clark was the first to learn Kryptonese. The language, plus a bunch of historical data in regards to Krypton, was downloaded into his brain by the ship about twenty years after he crashed. He probably taught the S.T.A.R. labs scientists or someone how to speak it and gave them some of the tech.

how can artifacts from a planet from another ?galaxy? find it's way to earth? since krypton had banned any space exploration of any kind. and remained an isolated planet.



and again i dont mind sharing the tech, but to have information like taht on the net where anyone can access to it is stupid. thats like the government just leaking all it's secret out. his tech should be on a needs to know basis. i just dont like the fact information like that it's out to the public, what would they want to know about it?

[Green Lantern]

how can artifacts from a planet from another ?galaxy? find it's way to earth? since krypton had banned any space exploration of any kind. and remained an isolated planet.



and again i dont mind sharing the tech, but to have information like taht on the net where anyone can access to it is stupid. thats like the government just leaking all it's secret out. his tech should be on a needs to know basis. i just dont like the fact information like that it's out to the public, what would they want to know about it?That doesn't mean space exploration was always banned :rolleyes:. Marijauna usage is banned. Oh god, people still smoke it? Damn.

[BrianWilly]

You're nitpicking just for the hell of nitpicking, GAH. As usual.

You have no idea what the Kryptonian government is like either, so how exactly do you know how they do things? For that matter, you have no idea what Kryptonian technology -- which is light years ahead of real world Earth's -- is like, so how do you know what artifacts would survive?

[Anubis]

I thought they said Luthor got those Kryptonian artifacts from what was left of Supes' old Fortress of Solitude that got blown up during For Tommorw?

[Morg]

GoldenAgeHero, knock it off

[The Question]

how can artifacts from a planet from another ?galaxy? find it's way to earth? since krypton had banned any space exploration of any kind. and remained an isolated planet.

Space travel wasn't always banned. And people still could have done it illegally.

and again i dont mind sharing the tech, but to have information like taht on the net where anyone can access to it is stupid. thats like the government just leaking all it's secret out. his tech should be on a needs to know basis. i just dont like the fact information like that it's out to the public, what would they want to know about it?

Who said anything about his technology being on the net? I said the Kryptonian language probably is. What the hell is the harm in a dead language being on the internet?

[MaskedManJRK]

anyways, i justread this weeks issue. the whole thing seems kinda absurd. now you have regular people out there searching for the superheroes, getting on this knowledge of the zeta beam,etc. i wouldprefer if ti was just the superhero community who knew of such information,not the regular citizens. and the whole thing with cassie seems retarded, she gathersa bunch of people who understands kryptonian? when the hell did these people get a hold of this information?!

im thinking about dropping this book.

I'm pretty sure that was NASA or something (I mean, they were on the f**king SPACE SHUTTLE, for Christ's sake...), so I wouldn't be surprised if the government got the knowledge of the Zeta Beam (which I need explaination as to what the f**k THAT is, by the way) from STAR or something like that.

My question is--who poisoned John? What the hell was with the explosion?

[The Question]

You're nitpicking just for the hell of nitpicking, GAH. As usual.

You have no idea what the Kryptonian government is like either, so how exactly do you know how they do things? For that matter, you have no idea what Kryptonian technology -- which is light years ahead of real world Earth's -- is like, so how do you know what artifacts would survive?



Actually, the comics say a good deal about Kryptonian society. They were, to an extent, xenophobic. They despised contact with other civilizations. To the point were space travel was banned centuries prior to the planet's destruction. That's why only Kal-El escaped. His was the only ship on the planet.

[Anubis]

Of course due to SBP's reality manipulations, all that could have been retconned by now.

[SonOfCthulhu]

#4 gets big thumbs up from me.

**Spoilers Alert**

I love Vic! There, I said it. The D&D references, "no mouth" and his wise ackering while getting his butt handed to him by the Kirby critter made this issue for me. The Question better not bite it in 52.

Booster continues to emotionally distance himself from the comic reading audience. I believe the writers are setting him up for the big sleep.

Steel's story takes some odd twists. I'm wondering if the "melting metal" is all in his mind or a real meta-human ability he hasn't discovered yet.

Anyone else notice Dibney's missing wedding ring? Let's hope that we get to see where that dip in the pool took him next issue instead of waiting two weeks. Because he didn't surface in the same place as his dunking. It's the old Kryptonian mind trick...or something like that.

Lastly: A request from a DC n00b. Can anyone help me place the heroes on the final panel? I got the original GL Alan Scott, but the rest of these guys and gals are new to me. I admit, I haven't been reading DC in a long, long time.

[drastic_quench]

I think the one on the right with the metal jabbed into him is Vox, whom OYL is a member of the Doom Patrol as seen in Teen Titans. Bumblebee is also present. The Chief recounts how they both got F'd up on this journey back from space.

[SonOfCthulhu]

I think the one on the right with the metal jabbed into him is Vox, whom OYL is a member of the Doom Patrol as seen in Teen Titans. Bumblebee is also present. The Chief recounts how they both got F'd up on this journey back from space.

Thanks! Two down, three to go.

[TheCorpulent1]

Were the Metal Men with Donna? If so, I think the dark gray/gold figure is two of the Metal Men fused together or something. Will Magnus mentioned that the Metal Men were gone in the first issue of 52, after all. The chick in the back is Hawkgirl, but I have no idea why she's so huge. She's back to normal as of her OYL series, though, so I guess it wasn't permanent.

[The Watchman]

I liked this issue, can't wait to see where it's going and luckily we only have to wait a week. I have a feeling I'm going to go through withdrawl after the year is up.

...also...this is really off topic but please go vote for me against Draven, because he's a horrible person who hates you all...it'll send The Leaguer a Zauriel sex doll I made...I mean...found...if you help me out.:up:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234977&page=6

[BrianWilly]

I don't think the Metal Men were with Donna, they were hanging around when the Titans helped clean up Bludhaven.

Could it have been...Firestorm? Red Tornado? They're the only two left that I remember with Donna.

[regwec]

Making her a lesbian isnt a problem for me excpet for the fact it seems like they just made her lesbian to make her different..
Make her different? In the current DCU, practically every woman in spandex or out seems to like a bit of Sapphic action. I'm not opposed to the idea, but unless they balance the "lesbian boom" with one or two gay male characters, then it risks confirming many peoples prejudices of comics' readership as repressed teenage boys.

[SonOfCthulhu]

Thanks guys! I don't feel so bad for not recognizing those two background figures now. One looks sort of like Wildcat, but they both have a yellow glow coming out of their ... um ... mouths/eyes/faces. That's a power I've never seen in Wildcat, so I crossed him off. I guess we will just have to speculate for the next 5 days.

The giant Hawkgirl had me going. So she's been seeing Hank Pym on the side?

[samurai black]

Just read issue 4, not bad. this is my 1st time reading about the question, seems like a cool character so far, has pretty witty banter, but i'm waiting to see some good dectective skills. DC needs to make the Montoya character more interesting, there are enough female badasses with depression/self esteem/anger management issues already and she doesn't even have superpowers. Booster gold is becoming less likable each issue. I thought the mention of Ted would bring him back to his senses, but it drove him further away. It's looks like the typical set-up where the self serving hero makes the ultimate sacrifice in the end to save all, thus redeeming all the horrible things he did. That or he's gonna take a big fall and hat would put him.....back where he started, thus making absolutely no character progression whatsoever. I agree with what others said about Cassie. starting a superboy cult is weird and the general pulic shouldn't know kryptonese. I think Batman may know it, wonder woman doesn't, in the supergirl solo series luthor didn't know it, and hell i doubt lois even knows it.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think the Metal Men were with Donna, they were hanging around when the Titans helped clean up Bludhaven.

Could it have been...Firestorm? Red Tornado? They're the only two left that I remember with Donna.
Can't be Firestorm, we know he came back all right. I guess that could be how Red Tornado was damaged in the Crisis, but the colors don't really match up.

[yenaled]

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/images/philly2006/5218.jpg

#18 :D

[Tropico]

Thanks! Two down, three to go.

Ok, taking into consideration the people that are in the green "Next in 52" the people that are in the Zeta Beam accident should be:

-Hawkgirl (in giant form, I don't know why, whole upper part of the pic).
-Alan Scott/Green Lantern (we'll finally know how he lost the eye, which is really weird for someone made of Starheart energy and basically no real body to bleed from.:confused:, left part of the pic).
-Firestorm and Cyborg as the kinda melted beings (center of the pic). The golden one has the funny "ear" things on top of his head like Firestorm does. I guess that's what happens when you,um......uh.....(have sex)...in space. If you don't believe me check the green pic in "Next in 52". :o BTW, we have no way of knowing if Firestorm made it ok to Earth since we DO know that Prof. Stein was no longer in the merger and he had to use Lorraine Reilly/Firehawk as a sub. Cyborg was also fragged and we found out that he was offline for a whole year in TT OYL.
-The Herald who is now Vox in Doom Patrol (the black guy with the white and blue clothes, right part of the pic).
-Bumblebee in her shrunken form (the woman in the bumblebee outfit, bottom right).

There's still Red Tornado and someone with a weird design on their sleeve unaccounted for. Bear in mind that I'm speculating in regards to Firestorm and Cyborg but they're the ones that seem to be...very close to each other to end up kinda merged like that. The rest I'm sure of.

[TheCorpulent1]

Sweet, Dr. Fate! :D

I don't think the merged beings are Firstorm and Cyborg. I think it's likelier that it's Red Tornado and Cyborg, just without any kind of logical coloring to them. Red Tornado clearly looks like he's missing major chunks of himself in the "Next in 52" thing, which could be a result of having been separated from the other dude, and we know Cy got screwed up already thanks to Teen Titans. I'm fairly sure it was mentioned in Firestorm's comic that he and Prof. Stein got back all right, but then Stein was abducted while they were separated (another victim of the scientist-snatcher, it seems). That's when he starts merging with Lorraine to make an unstable Firestorm.

[Superman \S/]

Cool! I can't wait for Dr. Fate. Question though, I saw on the 52 website that there are 3 more slots for possible players in the series. Who can those three be?

[TheCorpulent1]

Two things I love after looking at that cover for a few minutes:

1) The pulpish feel of the lettering and image as a whole.

2) Detective Chimp's shirt, which says, "In Grodd we trust."

:D

[Ben Urich]

Dr Fate holy **** I just crapped myself.
Last issue things really picked up...

[The Watchman]

...Animal Man?!?...I fear the worst :(

[Green Lantern]

We will learn Animal Man, Kory and Adam's fate in issue 9 ;)

http://dccomics.com/media/covers/5539_400x600.jpg

Personally judging by the Next box, thats what happened in transport... Cyborg and Firestorm, and I'm betting the metal shards are the blown up parts of Red.

[The Flash!]

Is the guy next to Chimp, Wally West?

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe it's the Ralphinator, with brand new, super-cool beardage.

[Nightwing]

The woman beside him does resemble Linda Park, even has the asian attributes. Still, that doesn't necessarily mean it's her.

[TheCorpulent1]

I hadn't thought of that. I was wondering who the Asian woman could be. Maybe it is Wally. I can't imagine any reason why Wally would be consorting with magic-types like Detective Chimp and looking for Dr. Fate but, then, I couldn't imagine Steel going crazy and turning into metal, either.

[Darthphere]

I hadn't thought of that. I was wondering who the Asian woman could be. Maybe it is Wally. I can't imagine any reason why Wally would be consorting with magic-types like Detective Chimp and looking for Dr. Fate but, then, I couldn't imagine Steel going crazy and turning into metal, either.


Yeah that was odd. looks like our fears came true about Steel, Corp.

[TheCorpulent1]

Or it may just be some kind of evolution for him. Maybe his new thing will be turning into liquid metal instead of putting on a suit of armor, kind of like how Iron Man just got his (what I consider) silly upgrades via Extremis.

[Darthphere]

Or it may just be some kind of evolution for him. Maybe his new thing will be turning into liquid metal instead of putting on a suit of armor, kind of like how Iron Man just got his (what I consider) silly upgrades via Extremis.


Yeah, I still dont like it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Me either. Steel = dude in armor with cool gadgets. But I'll see where it goes.

[amazingfantasy15]

Week 5 has hit and the fate of many on the space mission is revealed, including what may be the reason why Supergirl is 1,001 years in the future. Luthor tells the world about a project that may be completed and Sawyer confronts Montoya about her "PI" work, but this is really background stuff. The issue really focuses on what happened to the space crew and is really interesting. We do find out what happens to Animal, Starfire and Adam Strange (they're all together in parts unknown).

[cerealkiller182]

In week 4 they show Steel becoming all T2 like, but in week 5 he has his suit again. DId they mix something up?

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm fairly sure Steel has some ongoing issues that will be dealt with over the course of the series.

[GoldenAgeHero]

i never new steel lost his hand..weird. but to be honest with ya guys, this was pretty much the weakest of the issues, in both art and storywise. not saying its crappy, but weak.

and impretty pissed they made adam strange blind.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, that whole zeta beam accident was re-****ing-tarded. The zeta beam tech managed to teleport a whole planet without incident, but when it comes to a few stray people it gets all wonky and switches people's eyes and ****? Lame.

[Anubis]

Well, you gotta remember, the universe did just wrench itself back together after Alex Luthor had been f**king with it. WHo knows what kinda effects that could have on Zeta Beams or whatever? Of course I haven't read the issue yet, so what do I know.

[BrianWilly]

Yeah, there were continuity waves messing things up. This time literally.

[Anubis]

Like I said.

[The Watchman]

Yeah, there were continuity waves messing things up. This time literally.
To the point where he's being made into the engineer from The Authority...

[TheCorpulent1]

Still lame. Way to set Adam Strange up as a great character, only to **** him over right after he served his purpose for IC. :o

[GoldenAgeHero]

Yeah, there were continuity waves messing things up. This time literally.


yeah, but i dont really buy it. i mean if your gonna balme the continuity waves on that accident shouldnt eveyone in the world have thier eyes and **** missing, blown up to pieces, fused together?

the whole thing was lame.

[Anubis]

Well, everybody in the world wasn't using Zeta Beam technology now were they? I mean, were talking about the universe getting screwed up somehting fierce, and then you wanna basically teleport back somewhere with all the freaky stuff that just happened to reality? I woulda took the bus back.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, obviously he 12 o'clock from the creepy hands at the center of the universe to Earth was late. Again. :mad:

[Tropico]

Yeah, that whole zeta beam accident was re-****ing-tarded. The zeta beam tech managed to teleport a whole planet without incident, but when it comes to a few stray people it gets all wonky and switches people's eyes and ****? Lame.

Dude! Mal's portal + Zeta Beam + Reality Waves= Trouble, simple math!

And I called all the accident victims, in your face, Corp!:p:D

I have to differ with all the people complaining about this issue, I though it was great. And I have to say that Buddy Baker is one lucky man! Loving wife, superpowers, paradise planet, heavenly view! *sigh* Being stranded seems like such a little thing.:(

I'm trying to find info on Steel and if he had meta powers 'cause I remember (I think it was in his 0 issue after Zero Hour) that he was trapped by some bad guy. They had stripped him of his armor and he was bound to some machine. When they fired a beam at his chest the armor suddenly appeared on his chest and it was a surprise for all of them. Since that was my only Steel comic I don't know what became of that. I didn't know about the lost hand either. Montoya not being a licensed P.I. also threw me for a loop.

[TheCorpulent1]

Dude! Mal's portal + Zeta Beam + Reality Waves= Trouble, simple math!

And I called all the accident victims, in your face, Corp!
I don't care, it was still lame! :mad:

[Anubis]

Bah, you don't know what you're talkin about.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yes, I do. I'm talking about lameness. :confused:

[The Watchman]

lameness as in not being able to get your penis hard?

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, that too, but I don't advertise it. :o

[The Watchman]

I don't blame you, it always funny to see a girl's face when you hit her with your wet noodle...SURPRISE!!!! WET NOODLE!!!

...soooooooooooooooooo

back on topis it's great to have Morrison back doing Animal man, at least in some small capacity. :up:

[Fledermaus]

Did anybody notice how uninterested Animal Man was in a beautiful, naked, 6 foot plus starfire right in front of him?

[The Watchman]

I guess he loves his wife, or doesn't like orange nipples...

[Tropico]

Maybe the Zeta beam has now made him Adam Strange instead?:confused: He seemed a little jealous of Strange fondling the ship.

[Tropico]

I don't care, it was still lame! :mad:

Sounds like you're channeling some other poster.



:p
:D

[Green Lantern]

GAH! Don't ever say such things about Corpypuss :o

[TheCorpulent1]

It's ok, I let it slide because Trop and I know each other.

Intimately.

[Tropico]

Was that a true 'GAH!' or was he referring to GoldenAgeHero? I don't know.

But, I must confess, Corpy, it's not the same compared to those nights Leag, you and I used to share.:(

[Darthphere]

Was that a true 'GAH!' or was he referring to GoldenAgeHero? I don't know.

But, I must confess, Corpy, it's not the same compared to those nights Leag, you and I used to share.:(


:confused:

[Anubis]

...they like to have sex....in the butt....together.

[Darthphere]

...they like to have sex....in the butt....together.


Hmmmmm. Anyway back to 52, good issue, so far its the best one.

[Green Lantern]

Was that a true 'GAH!' or was he referring to GoldenAgeHero? I don't know.

But, I must confess, Corpy, it's not the same compared to those nights Leag, you and I used to share.:(He caught my clever play on words/sounds :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Was that a true 'GAH!' or was he referring to GoldenAgeHero? I don't know.

But, I must confess, Corpy, it's not the same compared to those nights Leag, you and I used to share.:(
Yeah, he's a loser. He never comes to the boards anymore.

I think it's all the coke and hookers. :(

[The Leaguer]

Actually, it's mainly the midgets.

[TheCorpulent1]

Midget hookers?

[The Leaguer]

No, in general, midgets are quite affluent individuals and rarely need to whore themselves out. However, they are midgets, and thus must pay for sex themselves. That's where I come in.

[TheCorpulent1]

Midgets scare me a little bit.

[The Leaguer]

I was scared, too, until he pulled out the first Benjamin. Then I was whatever he wanted me to be.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, I suppose that's fair.

[The Leaguer]

I gave him standard midget rates.

[Nightwing]

Batwoman's first appearence is in issue #7, here is the cover where she's shown fully in #11.


http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/Week5/52CV11R1copy.jpg

[cerealkiller182]

This must be the wolf that kidnapped the scientist whose name escaped me in the first issue.

Will Batwoman live on past 52? I have been reading most Batcentric OYL and she has not been brought up. Seems like huntress's batgirl during No Man's Land.

[Superman \S/]

^^^^^ Cool.

[Nightwing]

This must be the wolf that kidnapped the scientist whose name escaped me in the first issue.

Will Batwoman live on past 52? I have been reading most Batcentric OYL and she has not been brought up. Seems like huntress's batgirl during No Man's Land.

Dan DiDio spoke a lot about the character probably having her own ongoing, after 52 ends. There's also a rumored team involving Devin Grayson and Dustin Nguyen, possibly helming the book.

This preview page was also shown with the Batwoman cover.

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/Week5/52_06_04-05.jpg

[The Leaguer]

"Probably?" From what I read of Didio's interviews, he was doing everything he could not to rush her into an ongoing. He was stressing the fact that she would be a supporting character unless she grew a large enough fanbase to warrent a mini, or even an ongoing.

[TheCorpulent1]

Batwoman's first appearence is in issue #7, here is the cover where she's shown fully in #11.


http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/Week5/52CV11R1copy.jpg
If only Montoya could aim up a bit and shoot her in the face. :(

[Nightwing]

"Probably?" From what I read of Didio's interviews, he was doing everything he could not to rush her into an ongoing. He was stressing the fact that she would be a supporting character unless she grew a large enough fanbase to warrent a mini, or even an ongoing.

"Probably" meaning after she debuts in 52 and how well she settles with fans.

NRAMA: Plans for her in the immediate future? Her own series, miniseries, appearances, or can it be said at this point?

DIDIO: One of the things that I would like to do with Batwoman in particular, because we feel that who she is and the development of the character is so unique to what we’re trying to accomplish in the DCU, but also to what 52 is about, one of the things I’d like to see, at least in the beginning, is to see her as a character who will be appearing primarily in 52. Then, we’ll be exploring things in different ways.

Even before she was actually shown, and even said to be premiering in 52, there was talk about the character having her own ongoing a few months ago. Besides, why would there already be rumored team involved?

[Black Panther]

"Probably" meaning after she debuts in 52 and how well she settles with fans.



Even before she was actually shown, and even said to be premiering in 52, there was talk about the character having her own ongoing a few months ago. Besides, why would there already be rumored team involved?

Exactly. :up:

[The Leaguer]

"Probably" meaning after she debuts in 52 and how well she settles with fans.



Even before she was actually shown, and even said to be premiering in 52, there was talk about the character having her own ongoing a few months ago. Besides, why would there already be rumored team involved?
Um, because people make up rumors left and right? Remember that huge Jack Black-as-Green Lantern rumor not long ago?

And that is definitely not a "probably" type of situation, it's "maybe" at best.

[yenaled]

Also the rumour that Kyle is going to die in every single corssover in the past ten years.

[Darthphere]

Or the rumor that Superboy dies in Crisis.

[The Flash!]

Um, because people make up rumors left and right? Remember that huge Jack Black-as-Green Lantern rumor not long ago?

And that is definitely not a "probably" type of situation, it's "maybe" at best.

........Ummm, probably and maybe mean the same thing. :confused:

[The Flash!]

BTW, who drew that Batwoman pic?

[batnkevlar]

If only Montoya could aim up a bit and shoot her in the face. :(

Montoya's not aiming for her head for a reason.

Inner monolgue: I'm Renee Montoya. I have the shot, but I choose not to take it. Instead, I'll aim for her boob. If the bullet just barely grazes her nipple, she'll be SO turned on...

[Darthphere]

BTW, who drew that Batwoman pic?


If its a cover for 52, its J.G Jones.

[yenaled]

J.G. Jones. He does all the 52 covers.

--

fail too late.

[Darthphere]

J.G. Jones. He does all the 52 covers.

--

fail too late.


Its ok.:up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Or the rumor that Superboy dies in Crisis.
I hate you. :(

[Darthphere]

I hate you. :(


No, you dont.

[The Leaguer]

........Ummm, probably and maybe mean the same thing. :confused:
They do? :confused:

[TheCorpulent1]

No, you dont.
You're right, I just miss Conner.

I do kind of dislike you, though. :o