The Official '52' Thread

[Darthphere]

You're right, I just miss Conner.

I do kind of dislike you, though. :o


Conner will be back.

[TheCorpulent1]

Here's hoping.

[Teen Lantern]

^^^^^ That Batwoman cover has badass drawn all over it, and this is coming from a guy like me.

What's her back story?

[Nightwing]

^^^^^ That Batwoman cover has badass drawn all over it, and this is coming from a guy like me.

What's her back story?

Her name is Kathy Kane, which was the name of the original Batwoman. This incarnation of the character is a wealthy socialite, who is a lesbian and has a history with former police detective, Renee Montoya. She makes her first appearence in issue #7 of 52, and then is fully exploited with issue #11. In one of the preview pages, she's shown to have a brief encounter with The Question and Montoya.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm guessing her story will continually intertwine with Montoya and the Question's. They're all operating out of Gotham, after all. Personally, I'm looking forward to Montoya's first run-in with the non-Two-Face Harvey Dent, who should be Gotham's "official" protector already in Batman's absence. Now he's got history with Montoya. :)

[Nightwing]

As am I. I want to see a bit of a flashback of Batman training Harvey before he left with Tim and Dick, as well hopefully. It was said that we would see more of the Bat-family's trip around the world in the book.

[supes_el]

Damn. Animal has some self control. Its like he didnt even see the perfection that is Starfire standing in front of him....naked! Issue was good...Series has been good so far...im stickin with

[warren_sparta27]

i'm looking forward to the Batwoman character making her apperance.
i'm hoping that we get to see more of Montoya and the Question.
and perhaps Alan Scott joining Checkmate?

[Harlekin]

Man, I finally caught up with 52, and it really sucks that I'll have to collect it monthly, since I'm loving it. I'm a little weirded out by the whole Conner cult thing, but beyond that it's a great ride, and I was especially glad to see that Animal Man is still alive.

[Fledermaus]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/Week5/52_06_04-05.jpg

Are those the "Great 10" from China? Is Hawkeye chinese? Another archer in the DCU. Ollie is going to be pissed.

[TheCorpulent1]

One more archer probably won't bother Ollie. There are a bunch of them running around the DC universe.

[Darthphere]

Some of those characters are too weird for my taste.

[ToddIsDead]

I hate not being able to get to the comic shop on Wednesdays. Now I have to avoid this board until the weekend.

[TheCorpulent1]

Some of those characters are too weird for my taste.
I'm still wondering how Morrison got a character whose power is to give birth a lot into the comics. It's an ethnic stereotype, to boot.

[Darthphere]

I'm still wondering how Morrison got a character whose power is to give birth a lot into the comics. It's an ethnic stereotype, to boot.


Yeah, thats the one im mostly wierded out by, like ok, shes not going to be in any fight scenes or anything so....

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm just confused about how it'll work. Are the Great Ten gonna show up to every battle with an army of newborns or something?

[Darthphere]

I'm just confused about how it'll work. Are the Great Ten gonna show up to every battle with an army of newborns or something?


Who knows, I think Morrison could be going overboard.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's possible it won't be as weird as it sounds. Of course, it's Morrison so it's just as possible that they'll be literal newborns slinging placental fluid at their enemies. :o

[Darthphere]

Why are Hal and John in China?

[ToddIsDead]

Maybe she'll shoot the infants out like high-speed projectiles. You could take someone's head clear off with one of those. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Why are Hal and John in China?
Because they don't care about no stinkin' national sovereignty. Hal was still violating other countries' airspace in his first OYL issue.

[Tropico]

I'm just confused about how it'll work. Are the Great Ten gonna show up to every battle with an army of newborns or something?

Maybe those two armored guys that look the same are two of the "children" and maybe they age rapidly and have a short life span. I mean, if she can give birth so quickly it would kinda make sense. I wonder if it's asexual, spontanous conception or if she still has to be "seeded".:O

[amazingfantasy15]

Just finished issue 6 and it's the first issue to disappoint me a little, there's some really good stuff with Booster Gold, but most of the issue was a fight between the 2 GLs Hal and John and the Great 10, pretty cool revelation at the end of the battle, but the battle itself was too long and we could've used those extra pages for other stuff, Montoya, The Question, Steel, the missing space heroes and the Wonder-Girl Cult of El are all sadly absent this issue. I guess my main problem was I wasn't interested in the biggest part of the issue, still good, but just seemed lacking to me. Last couple of pages were great though. 8/10

[SouLeSS]

Am I the only one that noticed it only took place in the first two days? What about the other 5 days in the week?

[amazingfantasy15]

Yeah, I noticed that too, hey everyone needs to take a break sometime, even DCU superheroes and villians, maybe there was a holiday like the 4th of July and everyone wanted to relax over the long weekend.

[TheCorpulent1]

My guess is that nothing important happened. Rather than putting black panels up with, "Nothing important happened today," they probably decided to just omit them.

[The Flash!]

HOT DAMN! That issue was awesome. :eek: But I think the first 5 were better honestly. And what about the chalkboard panel? That was freakin amazing with all those questions even though I couldn't make a lot of them out.

It's be really cool if someone could post it....:D

[Nightwing]

HOT DAMN! That issue was awesome. :eek: But I think the first 5 were better honestly. And what about the chalkboard panel? That was freakin amazing with all those questions even though I couldn't make a lot of them out.

It's be really cool if someone could post it....:D

I'm posting it in link form incase anyone hasn't read the issue yet. (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=527gj.jpg)

[Assassin]

i didnt lik ethis issue as much as the rest, the great ten bore me

[SonOfCthulhu]

52 #6

Too many Chinese heroes, too little page count. I don't know what half of these guy's powers are based on this one book. One's power is to be pregnant. I read that before in the industry trades, but just say it with me a couple of times for comedic effect. "What's your power again?" "I get pregnant and have lots of kids!" Seriously, we get to see four of these guys in action, get a feel for none of their personalities (except for August Warrior in Iron, who, if his foot was on fire, wouldn't pee on the flames to put it out without checking with his superiors first. What an whipped lap-dog he is!) and get just a wiff of what three of can do with their powers.

The rest I'll sum up and get to the best part of comics this week: Dr. Morrow - provided a chuckle. Ipod = Death Ray. Black Adam - becoming a force that will ultimately cause more harm than good. Booster Gold - falling further and further until we hit the final page and bottom out. Now, if he's a true hero who knows that he's messed something up, what should he do? Answer: Anything and everything to fix it, even if it means sacrificing his life. He made his own bed by monkeying around with info from the future. Anyone watching a Michael J. Fox movie knows what kind of trouble that causes.

The absolute best part of this week was not a spider but, as others have said, was a chalkboard. Anyone care to join me in playing detective?


TIME IS BROKEN

Dead by lead? Reference to Lead of the Metal Men? But he's deactivated, right.
Further time is different
The four horsemen will end her rain?
He won't smell it.
Find the last "El" Reference to a Kryptonian? Superman, Power Girl, Supergirl or maybe Conner's body. He was part Kryptonian.
Sonic disrupt ->Time Masters -> Time Servants
The reach, The reach, The reach
The Tornado in pieces. We saw this last issue. How does Hunter know?
"I'm not kryptonite" Sounds familiar. Was this in "Up, Up and Away"?
It hurts to breathe.
The scarab is Eternal? Reference to new Blue Beetle
2000 years from now. How many years in the future does Booster hail from?
Where is the Curry Heir?
Man of Steel
(Sum) What happened to the son of Superman? Huh? I've never heard of one in continuity so I'd like to know as well.
(Sum) Where is the Batman? -> (Sum) Who is the Batwoman? Product placement
(Sum) Te versus (Au +Pb) Te = tellurium or the 52 element vs Au = Gold (Booster?) + Pb = Lead. Note that this could tie into the "Dead by Lead" clue earlier.
(Sum) Who is Diana Prince? Wonder Woman - more product placement
(Sum) Don't ask the Question. It lies. Why would Vic lie?
Secret Five More product placement only it's the secret six from villains united
Mortal Savage Blurred out part could lead to this being Vandal Savage? Is he still alive?
Someone is monitoring. They see us. They see me. Well then, it's pretty stupid to write down that they see you, isn't it! Now they know that you know you're being watched. Couldn't you have just kept that to yourself?
(Sum) Who is Super Nova? His name means "Super No Go" when translated back from Spanish. Maybe that's a clue?
(Sum) World War III? Why? How? Maybe if you just wrote in complete sentences, we'd all know.
KHIMAERA LIVES AGAIN
The Lazarus pit rises Rhas Al Gul anyone?
(Sum) The old Gods are dead, the new Gods want what's left. Refers to either Wonder Woman's pantheon or Kirby's New Gods, which I haven't heard a peep out of in awhile.
I'm supposed to be Dead? Possibly from chalk dust poisoning.
When am I? He's lost in Time
Others? No clue here

oh and 52!

Would anyone else like to help me fill in some gaps above?

[Tropico]

The absolute best part of this week was not a spider but, as others have said, was a chalkboard. Anyone care to join me in playing detective?


TIME IS BROKEN

Dead by lead? [B]Reference to Lead of the Metal Men? But he's deactivated, right.
*This also made me think of Valor/Mon-El since he's a Daxamite and their weakness is lead. He was also a key player in time manipulations in previous Legion history.*
Further time is different. *The new Legion was a product of another reboo and we have an unexplained Supergirl with them.*
The four horsemen will end her rain?
He won't smell it.
Find the last "El" Reference to a Kryptonian? Superman, Power Girl, Supergirl or maybe Conner's body. He was part Kryptonian. *Could it also mean the sound for the letter 'L'?*
Sonic disrupt ->Time Masters -> Time Servants
The reach, The reach, The reach *The Breach, maybe? The guy that dies and Cap. Atom was floating in his place?*
The Tornado in pieces. We saw this last issue. How does Hunter know?
"I'm not kryptonite" Sounds familiar. Was this in "Up, Up and Away"?
It hurts to breathe.
The scarab is Eternal? Reference to new Blue Beetle
2000 years from now. How many years in the future does Booster hail from? *He's supposed to be from the 25th, but that could have changed.*
Where is the Curry Heir? *Okay, this either refers to the new Aquaman, the original Aquaman's baby who is supposed to be dead or maybe Tempest?*
Man of Steel *John Henry? Or a reference to the mini that "rebooted" Superman?*
(Sum) What happened to the son of Superman? Huh? I've never heard of one in continuity so I'd like to know as well.
(Sum) Where is the Batman? -> (Sum) Who is the Batwoman? Product placement
(Sum) Te versus (Au +Pb) Te = tellurium or the 52 element vs Au = Gold (Booster?) + Pb = Lead. Note that this could tie into the "Dead by Lead" clue earlier. *Either that or the Metal Men will be back and there will be a leadership dispute. I don't know how Doc Magnus isn't Vanadium anymore, either.*
(Sum) Who is Diana Prince? Wonder Woman - more product placement
(Sum) Don't ask the Question. It lies. Why would Vic lie?
Secret Five More product placement only it's the secret six from villains united *The Secret Five thing might have come to pass already since one of their members was apparently killed.*
Mortal Savage Blurred out part could lead to this being Vandal Savage? Is he still alive?
Someone is monitoring. They see us. They see me. Well then, it's pretty stupid to write down that they see you, isn't it! Now they know that you know you're being watched. Couldn't you have just kept that to yourself? *This is either a Monitor clue (the shadow we saw in the first 52) or refers to the remaining OMAC.*
(Sum) Who is Super Nova? His name means "Super No Go" when translated back from Spanish. Maybe that's a clue?
(Sum) World War III? Why? How? Maybe if you just wrote in complete sentences, we'd all know.
KHIMAERA LIVES AGAIN
The Lazarus pit rises Rhas Al Gul anyone?
(Sum) The old Gods are dead, the new Gods want what's left. Refers to either Wonder Woman's pantheon or Kirby's New Gods, which I haven't heard a peep out of in awhile. *The New Gods are making a comeback since we see The Persuader in one of the 52 covers attacking the space stranded team. It's also been mentioned that SHAZAM will have it's own pantheon that won't be tied to WW's.*
I'm supposed to be Dead? Possibly from chalk dust poisoning.*The new Deadman? Jason Todd? Some other unrevealed resurrection, Sue Dibny?*
When am I? He's lost in Time
Others? No clue here

oh and 52!

Would anyone else like to help me fill in some gaps above?

I wrote some stuff between asterisks in the spoilers, guesses mostly.

[Purple Man]

*Spoilers*


The last El could be Mon El. The son of Superman could be refering to Kingdom Come. Mortal Vandal Savage could be referring to his death in DC 1,000,000 after time traveling from the 853rd to the 21st and being whiped out along with Montevideo by a rocket red as part of a plot by a younger Savage. Also I think Diana Prince is WW without her powers after Donna took over, I guess we will find out in the Wonder Woman book.


*end spoilers*

Awesome issue!

[Purple Man]

Sorry for double posting but did anyone else notice one of the Chinese super heroes looks suspiciously like the Tangent Green Lantern?

[marcofthebeast]

What if those missing days have something to do with "Time Being Broken"? That would be intresting indeed.

[BlazingBread]

I just picked up 1-6 today and i must say i am really enjoying these comics. Best dc series i have read by far.

[jaydawg]

But World War III already happened in the DCAU...

[kiuju2k]

i want somebody to put black adam in his place. Hes actually starting to piss me off especially in this issue. Rayner went head up with him whats he gonna do with 2 veteran lanterns... then again i should be happy for him.... at least his character has purpose now.

[GoldenAgeHero]

i think thier setting up black adam to be one of the characters who either gets killed or has his arse handed to him on silver platter with a side of shrip at the end of 52. it'll be a shame really, he could be an awesome villain for billy.

[Fledermaus]

But World War III already happened in the DCAU...

It happened in the DCU, too.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/Sam655321/6WorldWarIII34-41.jpg

[jaydawg]

Thats what I meant. Damn typos.

[Darthphere]

52 helped DC take over the Market Share to beat out Marvel.

[yenaled]

If Mon-El turns out to be SuperNova I will be very happy.

[kiuju2k]

Still i want somebody to kick his ass.... i mean outside of khandaq hes worthless. Like juggernaut to me. All that power and nothing to do with it but, to rule a 3rd world country. Doesn't he remind any of you of zod? Somebody really needs to beat his ass.

[Darthphere]

Still i want somebody to kick his ass.... i mean outside of khandaq hes worthless. Like juggernaut to me. All that power and nothing to do with it but, to rule a 3rd world country. Doesn't he remind any of you of zod? Somebody really needs to beat his ass.


I will kill you.

[samurai black]

Still i want somebody to kick his ass.... i mean outside of khandaq hes worthless. Like juggernaut to me. All that power and nothing to do with it but, to rule a 3rd world country. Doesn't he remind any of you of zod? Somebody really needs to beat his ass.

I think his character now is similiar to magneto when he ruled genosha. He's too important right now for anyone to just come and kick his ass. And besides who's gonna do it? supes, ww, and billy are out of commission right now. by the way, how does hal survive a sneak attack by black adam? Without warning, isn't hal just as succeptable as anyone else? I mean when he punched super-man he did more damage. Black Adam is slowly becoming one of my favorite villians. I love powerhouses who actually have plans other than smash and destroy. IMO, giving him his own county is the smartest thing to do and Khandq should become a staple in the DCU, similar to Latervia in Marvel.

[samurai black]

Still i want somebody to kick his ass.... i mean outside of khandaq hes worthless. Like juggernaut to me. All that power and nothing to do with it but, to rule a 3rd world country. Doesn't he remind any of you of zod? Somebody really needs to beat his ass.

I think his character now is similiar to magneto when he ruled genosha. He's too important right now for anyone to just come and kick his ass. And besides who's gonna do it? supes, ww, and billy are out of commission right now. by the way, how does hal survive a sneak attack by black adam? Without warning, isn't hal just as succeptable as anyone else? I mean when he punched super-man he did more damage. Black Adam is slowly becoming one of my favorite villians. I love powerhouses who actually have plans other than smash and destroy. IMO, giving him his own county is the smartest thing to do and Khandq should become a staple in the DCU, similar to Latervia in Marvel.

[Doc Destruction]

52 helped DC take over the Market Share to beat out Marvel.

NICE

[Darthphere]

NICE


Also, each issue is selling less than the one before so....

[Fledermaus]

by the way, how does hal survive a sneak attack by black adam? Without warning, isn't hal just as succeptable as anyone else? I mean when he punched super-man he did more damage.

I'm no Green Lantern expert, or fan, but I believe Hal's ring has an auto-defense system that detects threats and puts up a shield or softens the impact or something.

[kiuju2k]

They do .... adam ain't nothin... rayner went head up a years ago. Nothing two veteran lanterns can't handle... yeah right now he has a purpose i guess thats good its better than him being a nuisance to batson i guess or a burdan to the jsa. Whatever I don't like him somebody should beat his ass put him in his place.

[jaydawg]

52 helped DC take over the Market Share to beat out Marvel.
Numbers? Marvel usually beats DC by a pretty good margin, regardless of quality.

[Darthphere]

Numbers? Marvel usually beats DC by a pretty good margin, regardless of quality.


CLICK ME! (http://www.newsarama.com/marketreport/may06sales.html)

[supes_el]

this issue was a little weaker than the series has been...i dont like booster...the Adam story was alright...lets wait for next week...

BTW the History of the DCU was actually somewhat fulfilling this week.

[J.R.]

I agree with supes el....this one wasn't as good as the previous issues. I really hope Booster becomes less of a jackass. I really like the Montoya/Question story the best, followed closely by Steel.

[Anubis]

Well, next week I think he's gonna be exsposed for the douche that he is, so Boosters step towards redemtion may be at hand.

[deathshead2]

Man booster gold is an ass. If I had the chance I would drop 52 from my pull list and just buy the issues with the steel and the question in them. Thats what I really want to see.

[yenaled]

Week 21: Infinity Inc :D!

[Anubis]

Sweet!

[Mister J]

This issue was a little less to my liking than the previous 5. I hope Booster gets some sort of comeuppance soon. I find him annoying. The 'chalkboard' setup (including the screen images, the marked globe and the random pages) at the end was pretty sweet. The developments/revelations should be good.

Oh yeah, Black Adam is so badass. I'm lovin' it. :up: :D

[Spider-Man™]

Second that.

[comicman]

Man booster gold is an ass. If I had the chance I would drop 52 from my pull list and just buy the issues with the steel and the question in them. Thats what I really want to see.

Here here. Although I would have used the term 'selfish prat with dillusions of grandure'. I bet poor old Ted Kord would be less than thrilled with what his old buds been up to of late.

[Darthphere]

Here here. Although I would have used the term 'selfish prat with dillusions of grandure'. I bet poor old Ted Kord would be less than thrilled with what his old buds been up to of late.


The thing that bothers me was that he had moved beyond that, and all of a sudden hes the old Booster again. Or maybe im crazy.

[TheCorpulent1]

I was surprised at how Booster took a step back, too. I suppose you could view it as his way of grieving, though.

[Darthphere]

I was surprised at how Booster took a step back, too. I suppose you could view it as his way of grieving, though.


I guess. Doesnt mean I have to like it.:mad:

[GoldenAgeHero]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/Week7/5208_18.jpg

a page from next week.

[regwec]

We need more of The Question, and more importantly, we need him in a ****ing fedora.

[warren_sparta27]

one of the main 52 characters die don't they?
i'm guessing it will be Booster trying to redeem himself.
also we need to see more Question and Steel and his niece, oh and Harvey Dent becoming the protector of Gotham.

[Darthphere]

Last issue was great, the best issue so far IMO.

[The Question]

I was surprised at how Booster took a step back, too. I suppose you could view it as his way of grieving, though.

I think they're trying to say that he's trying to pretend that it didn't happen, and he's coping by becoming even more selfish and greedy.

We need more of The Question, and more importantly, we need him in a ****ing fedora.

Actually, I've always like the idea that Denny O'Neil introduced, with his costume being whatever he's wearing at the time (turned dark blue) plus his mask. But yeah, the fedora would be nice to see. I'd also like to see more of his old supporting cast.

[BATFREDDIE]

Why all the hate for booster gold? I find him a hilarious prick. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

I think they're trying to say that he's trying to pretend that it didn't happen, and he's coping by becoming even more selfish and greedy.
That's basically what I said. He's grieving through denial and, like any good person in severe denial, he's alienating everyone around him by doing so.

[Green Lantern]

and the psych major in Corpy comes out :o

[MaskedManJRK]

We need more of The Question, and more importantly, we need him in a ****ing fedora.

F**K YES. :up:

[Super_Child]

Why all the hate for booster gold? I find him a hilarious prick. :o

I agree, and more importantly, YES TO THE FEDORA!

http://www.brokenfrontier.com/img/2004/nov/DC/Question.04.cover.finish.jpg

[GoldenAgeHero]

anywau surprised this wasnt bumped up. this issue was pretty good. but to be honest i expected alot more fromthis 52 series. like real classic story telling, i was really let down. so far the series just reads as any other series. but overall still good issue. it seems that luthor infected steel, withsomething that activated his metagene or gave one him, and is somehow controlling the effects thats happening to steel. after his daughter miscontrues this as a uncle john got himself powers, yadda, well so should i, and at the end of the issue lex luthor begins to giver her, her own powers. the whole thing was planned. heh/

[Green Lantern]

anywau surprised this wasnt bumped up. this issue was pretty good. but to be honest i expected alot more fromthis 52 series. like real classic story telling, i was really let down. so far the series just reads as any other series. but overall still good issue. it seems that luthor infected steel, withsomething that activated his metagene or gave one him, and is somehow controlling the effects thats happening to steel. after his daughter miscontrues this as a uncle john got himself powers, yadda, well so should i, and at the end of the issue lex luthor begins to giver her, her own powers. the whole thing was planned. heh/She isn't John's daughter. What part of "Uncle" John is hard to understand?

[aroundthefur33]

im not liking booster gold...but so far 52 is good

[The BatDude]

Even though Booster Gold might be a dick, IMO Skeets is freakin A

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Skeets52.png

[GoldenAgeHero]

She isn't John's daughter. What part of "Uncle" John is hard to understand?


I'll make sure to give a damn next time:up:

[yenaled]

http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload9/eggfu.jpg

Apparantly for the sketchbook (http://www.dccomics.com/sites/52/?action=sketchbook&w=6&p=10) on the 52 website this panel in issue 6 the mysterious guy was labled as Egg Fu (It's now been changed to "Gotcha").

If you don't know him;

Egg Fu is a giant Communist egg. He was created by Chinese sleeper agents for Darkseid. He was secretly transporting people to Apokolips. In his first public appearance, he attempted to kill Wonder Woman but was foiled. He later tried to reprogram the Metal Men to say 'Down With America' at a Pro-American Rally, but was stopped. It was recently revealed that Jonni D.C., Continuity Cop, fried him, so that he would not ruin her clean continuity.
[Note: This text refers to the pre-Crisis version of this character.]

http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/silverage/EggFu-WW157.JPG

I think Morrisson may have had an hand in this :D

[warren_sparta27]

...Egg Fu? :(

[IzzyJG99]

Hahaha. "Aieee!"

[The BatDude]

I hope it's Egg Fu

[IzzyJG99]

Egg Fu reminds me of Kim Jong Il.

[Purple Man]

Egg Fu and Kim Jong Il can, as they would say "Rick my barrs"

One is a bad Asian stereotype and the other is a stupid looking comic book character.

But if anyone can make Egg Fu cool it would be Grant Morrison.

There's no hope for Kim Jong though, except maybe a bullet to the head.

[IzzyJG99]

Egg Fu and Kim Jong Il can, as they would say "Rick my barrs"

One is a bad Asian stereotype and the other is a stupid looking comic book character.

But if anyone can make Egg Fu cool it would be Grant Morrison.

There's no hope for Kim Jong though, except maybe a bullet to the head.

I like Kim Jong. No, no I don't like him because he kills people. I like him because he's an honest to God "Bond Villian", you know? Even the best comic book writer's couldn't think up a guy like this.

[supes_el]

This issue wasnt oo bad. I would have liked more Black Adam and Question in this issue though. I would like this book to pick up a little more in the following weeks however

[SpideyInATree]

This issue wasnt oo bad. I would have liked more Black Adam and Question in this issue though. I would like this book to pick up a little more in the following weeks however

I'm not really into Black Adam but I'm in agreement about The Question. He's probably the most mysterious thing about 52, in my opinion. I'm not really familiar with most of the characters in 52, but it's definitely one of the most captivating reads in all of comics right now.

And it god damn well better be with the writing talent that they've got on this thing.

If Marvel was pulling the same stunt, I have to admit, they'd fail miserably. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Not necessarily. If they got Brubaker, David, Busiek, and Giffen on it, I think they could turn out similar results in the writing department. Art's a whole other can of worms, though. I can't think of too many Marvel artists who are unflinchingly dependable, month in and month out. Not at the level of Bennett, anyway.

[SpideyInATree]

Not necessarily. If they got Brubaker, David, Busiek, and Giffen on it, I think they could turn out similar results in the writing department. Art's a whole other can of worms, though. I can't think of too many Marvel artists who are unflinchingly dependable, month in and month out. Not at the level of Bennett, anyway.

It's not really the writing staff or the art staff at Marvel that I have doubts in. It's the Marvel editorial department that I have little faith in, heh. They'd screw it up in the worst way, and everybody knows it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, probably. Too bad. Say what you will about the '90s, but at least Marvel's bullpen worked like a well-oiled machine at the time, even if they were using that coordination to make stupid decisions.

[SpideyInATree]

Yeah, probably. Too bad. Say what you will about the '90s, but at least Marvel's bullpen worked like a well-oiled machine at the time, even if they were using that coordination to make stupid decisions.

And the super duper see through foil embossed covers of doom.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, that'd fall under the stupid decisions. :(

[Artistsean]

Will they be putting all the 52 books out in one book?
When do you think that will be?

[Anubis]

Middle of Next year maybe. And I doubt they could get it out in one book.

[Doc Destruction]

It's not really the writing staff or the art staff at Marvel that I have doubts in. It's the Marvel editorial department that I have little faith in, heh. They'd screw it up in the worst way, and everybody knows it.

Holy crap, mark this date. You and I fully agree on something. The editors are the weakest at Marvel. Well, their ability to actually EDIT anything, that is.

[Artistsean]

Middle of Next year maybe. And I doubt they could get it out in one book.

thanks, I just don't want to go out and buy every comic. I'd rather wait and read it all in one book like I Crisis on Infinite Earth. Where the stories are all collected.

[Darthphere]

I expect 12 volumes 12 issues each for $20 each. Possibly a different printing for the back up stories.

[Artistsean]

I hope they include ALL the sketch pages they are posting, the loose sketches used as thumbnails.
They are AWESOME.

[GoldenAgeHero]

just read the 9th week. it seems the writers are really going out of thier way for the audience to dislike everyone in 52, making us to probably wish them dead. natasha ends up with powers far greater then steel's, i mean i think she can give supergirl a run for her money. she completely knocked around steel like he was a rag doll. it also seems luthor has formed his own superhero group and natasha is a member. which brings me to the the speculation at what happened during the up,up, and away arc. we know lex is downsized to nothing but a washed up villain and everything he had is gone. later issues of 52 are going to be great to know lex's plans are set to backfire on him.

rating 7/10

[SpideyInATree]

Haven't read Week 9 yet but all I know is that The Question is in this issue and that's enough for me to know that's it's kick ass.

[Green Lantern]

I expect 12 volumes 12 issues each for $20 each. Possibly a different printing for the back up stories.52 is gonna be 144 issues long? :eek:

[Darthphere]

52 is gonna be 144 issues long? :eek:


Yeah my math is off. I meant 6 voulmes *******.:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Green Lantern]

So its 72 issues? :eek:

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow. Double-pwnt. :o

[Green Lantern]

Not my fault he sucks at math... And Life :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow, I do believe that's a rare and impressive triple-pwning right there. :eek:

[Green Lantern]

Well, you did foil my attempt at pwning you earlier love-bug, so I had to take out my aggression on the weaker and less intelligent species. :o

[SpideyInATree]

Read Week 9 this morning. Man, they really do a nice job of balancing the stories out. It was awesome with The Question approaching Montoya in the lesbian bar, haha.

Man, I feel bad for Steel. I really, REALLY want to see him ***** slap Luthor in the worst way. Looks like John Henry's niece is sort of going to be a villain of sorts. Hopefully she'll wise up and see that Luthor is just using her. How she didn't realize that in the first place is beyond me, but...I guess it wouldn't be a story.

The Devilance guy just reminds me too much of Galactus, and it's hard for me to take it seriously. Though Adam Strange is a true bad ass through and through, hopefully we'll get some more of those guys stranded on that planet.

And the History of the DCU is a really smart idea. A couple of my friends have gotten into DC through those stories. It's too bad Marvel can't do something like that, with their unbelievably horrible continuity of the past 4 or 5 years, it'd be almost impossible without making someones head explode. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Devilance reminds you of Galactus? The only thing I see that they have in common is that they're both big. :confused:

I hope Adam gets new, super-cybernetic Rannian techno eyes after he gets off the planet. Blindness is lame. :o

[Darthphere]

Natasha Irons is a *****. Whats her deal? Seems like plot convinience to me.

[ToddIsDead]

So, I hadn't been to the comic shop in a month, and I finally got there on Thursday, and picked up like 50 books. I read the last four issues of 52, and I'm glad to see that it's still moving along nicely. It has yet to dissapoint.

[TheCorpulent1]

Natasha Irons is a *****. Whats her deal? Seems like plot convinience to me.
Me too. The whole fight between John Henry and Nat was uncharacteristic for both of them, I thought. I guess we could chalk it up to heretofore-unknown side effects of Lex's empowering process.

[Spider-Gamer]

I have been reading 52 every week since it started and it has not disappointed me yet! :up:

[SouLeSS]

I want them to release it in trades when it's done storyline by storyline, as well as how it is in the comics. That would be kinda cool I guess. That way you could read through all the Dibny or Question or Trio In Space storylines.

Week 9 didn't have Booster Gold in it though =(

[Nightwing]

It was a good issue. I really enjoyed a lot of the space teams adventures. A lot of it has really been a top notch for the book. I'm also enjoying Animal Man's place in the series. He's a character in a fantastic, incomprehensible series of events. I really like that aspect of the book.

The whole Question/Renee angle, served a great purpose. It's starting to tie those threads together. Those weapons were positivley identified as Intergang weapons. Intergang was last seen getting a stern head squishing talking to. Perhaps they were looking to move their weapons from Gotham to Khandahaq and then to the middle east.

I'm also enjoying how things are starting to piece together.

[Superman \S/]

Issue 9 was great! I'm interested in how Steel is now steel. And above all Booster Gold is just great. :up: Can't wait for #10, Super Nova! He supposedly has connections to both Booster and Supes.

[Fledermaus]

I remember reading something about a clone of Booster . Maybe that explains Supernova?

[TheCorpulent1]

Clones seem to be out of the picture for 52 and the early OYL stuff, due to the missing scientists.

[Darthphere]

Its more liekly an alternate version of Booster Gold from the future, since Booster is ****ing with time.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hahaha, that'd be such a rip-off of Prince of Persia. :D

[Darthphere]

Since when has DC or Marvel been know for originality?

[TheCorpulent1]

Never, really, but that'd be a really blatant rip-off of Prince of Persia. But better to rip off a good series of games than a bad one, at least.

[Darthphere]

True.

[SpideyInATree]

Devilance reminds you of Galactus? The only thing I see that they have in common is that they're both big. :confused:

I hope Adam gets new, super-cybernetic Rannian techno eyes after he gets off the planet. Blindness is lame. :o

And the guy almost has the same exact design as Galactus, minus the different color scheme and a couple other changes to the suit.

It's a little difficult for me to get into that part of the story because of that, I'm not a major DC nut, so maybe this Delivance guy has been around longer? I don't know.

[TheCorpulent1]

They have similar designs because Kirby designed both, although he designed Galactus first by about 6 years. Devilance's costume is actually a lot less detailed than Galactus', it's just impossible to see that in 52 because he's constantly been covered in shadows.

[onceasaint]

Just as long as he's not followed by The Platinum Boogie Boarder

[TheCorpulent1]

Devilance has never had any heralds, as far as I know, so he's got that to differentiate him.

[onceasaint]

And Herald is now Vox, so we're safe there.

[celldog]

They have similar designs because Kirby designed both, although he designed Galactus first by about 6 years. Devilance's costume is actually a lot less detailed than Galactus', it's just impossible to see that in 52 because he's constantly been covered in shadows.


http://vs-fr.com/cartes_scans/dc_superman/DSM-103.jpg

It's still cool though...

[batnkevlar]

Why is he wearing a unitard? Nice legs though... think he waxes?

[onceasaint]

Think they'll fedex his stick back to him once they get home? :O

[supes_el]

I didnt like this too much but it did have a storylines I enjoyed. First I hated the Stell/Natasha thing and how she is now a different person b/c she works for Lex. I hate how she is so much more powerful than him also.

The Adam Strange story at least went somewhere this week with some development as to who the guy was and the fact that there is a bounty out for them.

The Question/Montoya story with Batgirl seems to be promising.
I was however disappointed with the lack of Black Adam.

[Tropico]

Think they'll fedex his stick back to him once they get home? :O

The thing is that he should be able to repay Adam with the same trick he played on him, the lance is supposed to be remotely controlled and can even wrap around people. It's more than likely that those facts will be overlooked, but it'd be cool to see Devilance foil them that way. I'm loving the "space opera" part of the series, BTW.:D:up:

The rest of the comic was equally great. The encounter between Steel and Natasha was heart wrenching and the development with the powers of both of them is interesting. I'm not all that surprised that Natasha would turn on her uncle even if it's out of character since I'm pretty sure that Lex must have put other failsafes and "goodies" in his subjects to have some sort of influence or control over them. I'm probably in the minority (maybe the only one) to say that the Gotham developments don't interest me that much.

[onceasaint]

The thing is that he should be able to repay Adam with the same trick he played on him, the lance is supposed to be remotely controlled and can even wrap around people. It's more than likely that those facts will be overlooked, but it'd be cool to see Devilance foil them that way. I'm loving the "space opera" part of the series, BTW.:D:up:

The rest of the comic was equally great. The encounter between Steel and Natasha was heart wrenching and the development with the powers of both of them is interesting. I'm not all that surprised that Natasha would turn on her uncle even if it's out of character since I'm pretty sure that Lex must have put other failsafes and "goodies" in his subjects to have some sort of influence or control over them. I'm probably in the minority (maybe the only one) to say that the Gotham developments don't interest me that much.

I think theyre going to overlook things about Devilance too. The story has to pick up. Theyve been on the planet, its been fun, one or two more issues on it, then move on to trying to get home and what that entails.

The Gotham story isnt all that entertaining to me unless the Question is involved. I was very disappointed they have Harvey looking after Gotham instead of Q. I know it wouldnt make as much sense, but still... I wanted the character to shine. The whole Question ripping the symbol off the Bat Signal had me dying to see the story, and know I just kind of shrug at it and hope he does something cool.

The Natasha/Steel story feels forced at times. You sorta know its coming. I hope the Steel as a meta doesnt become permanent. I liked John Henry's character and didnt see the need for a change. The space opera has been a suprisingly addictive read. Not just because Starfire walks around naked and dripping. Ok.. that helps, but its also an interesting story.

[Nightwing]

The Gotham story isnt all that entertaining to me unless the Question is involved. I was very disappointed they have Harvey looking after Gotham instead of Q. I know it wouldnt make as much sense, but still... I wanted the character to shine. The whole Question ripping the symbol off the Bat Signal had me dying to see the story, and know I just kind of shrug at it and hope he does something cool.

I'm really enjoying Question's place in the series as well. Geoff Johns mentioned in an interview that he was very fond of the character. Also, that there was a chance he'd be getting his own ongoing. If things don't work out so well with that idea, I'd hope atleast that he gets a mini series.

[onceasaint]

I'm really enjoying Question's place in the series as well. Geoff Johns mentioned in an interview that he was very fond of the character. Also, that there was a chance he'd be getting his own ongoing. If things don't work out so well with it, I'd hope atleast that we a mini series.

I heard talk from different people about the chance of an ongoing series. I want to believe it'll happen. After JLU, The Question has developed a lot of new fans who don't know the character that well. I admit, I dont know every bit of his history, but I have read old issues when I find them and knew who he was before the cartoon. Maybe they'll give it a shot with a mini and see if it hooks enough readers.

Its obvious I like the character, he's in my avatar. Though I did alter the signal logo to mine.

[SpideyInATree]

I'm more intrigued by The Question than anything else in this series. Although they are revealing pretty much NOTHING about the guy, which makes sense since his name is the freakin' Question. But I like how Montoya is speaking for the reader, at least for me as a reader, heh.

"How'd you DO that?"

And I also dug when he spray painted the question mark on the bat signal. I was like, "Send a bigger bad ass to replace the original bad ass"...now that's how it's done.

I also hope The Question gets an ongoing, or even a mini, because I'd buy it in a heartbeat...even though I know NOTHING about him.

But the other intriguing thing is the chalkboard that Booster Gold ran into with all those ramblings on it. That was freakin' crazy, and it was good to see him get OWNED by Ralph Dibny...which is another little favorite part of mine, with the Conner Kent Cult investigation.

[Tropico]

You DO know that the Question is an established character and has had a couple of mini's before, don't you?

[SpideyInATree]

You DO know that the Question is an established character and has had a couple of mini's before, don't you?

Nope, didn't know that. As I said before in the DC forums. I don't know much about DC's Universe or the small tiered characters. The only DC character that I've read as a kid and through all these years has been Batman. :o And some Superman.

I never knew The Question existed until I saw the Hype poster on the boards here.

[onceasaint]

Nope, didn't know that. As I said before in the DC forums. I don't know much about DC's Universe or the small tiered characters. The only DC character that I've read as a kid and through all these years has been Batman. :o And some Superman.

I never knew The Question existed until I saw the Hype poster on the boards here.

Its ok, Im sure if he gets a mini or on-going they'll go over his origin for new readers to the character.

When all else fails, Wikipedia has a nice enough write up on his story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_%28comics%29

[Tropico]

Nope, didn't know that. As I said before in the DC forums. I don't know much about DC's Universe or the small tiered characters. The only DC character that I've read as a kid and through all these years has been Batman. :o And some Superman.

I never knew The Question existed until I saw the Hype poster on the boards here.

:eek: LOL!!:D:up: That's ok, it's pretty likely that he would be even more of an unknown if it hadn't been for JLU. And even then, it took a while for people to get caught up. I was scratching my head at your comment about his disguising "power" (the belt thing) and I thought you were just trying to get to know the character through the comics and not research him in the web but that you were at least aware that he had previous appearances. Now you know that there's info out there or you could always ask The Question.;)

[Nightwing]

I heard talk from different people about the chance of an ongoing series. I want to believe it'll happen. After JLU, The Question has developed a lot of new fans who don't know the character that well. I admit, I dont know every bit of his history, but I have read old issues when I find them and knew who he was before the cartoon. Maybe they'll give it a shot with a mini and see if it hooks enough readers.

Its obvious I like the character, he's in my avatar. Though I did alter the signal logo to mine.

The Denny O' Neil series is the way to go for old issues. He had one of the best runs for the character, and revamped him as well. JLU introduced him to people who had no idea who he was. And partially became not only fond for the way he was around other heroes, but how he was portrayed by Jeffery Combs. He's become so popular because of that series, and a lot of people are really intrigued by him currently in 52. So I don't see why they couldn't atleast give him a mini to see how well it sells with fans.

[The Leaguer]

He already had a mini, like two years ago.

[Anubis]

Yeah, it's time for an ongoing.

[Darthphere]

I concur. Especially since I have a feeling theyre going to kill him off.

[The BatDude]

^
There is no Question about that.....HAHAHAAHA that was funny, No not really

[Spider-Gamer]

Here is a cool Website all about The Question (www.vicsage.com). Check it out! :up:

[sinewave]

Yeah, Denny O'Neil's run on The Question was great. I was able to pick up the first few issues from my local comic shop and it's really gritty and well done. I'd love to see him get his own ongoing series. If I could choose one person to write it it'd be Ed Brubaker, but he's with Marvel now. :( Maybe Greg Rucka or Warren Ellis could handle it. They better not kill that character off because he's got so much potential.

[Varient]

Natasha Irons is a *****. Whats her deal? Seems like plot convinience to me.
Yeah,..
It really didn't fit into what has come before for her.

The LAST thing she'd have done is run to Lex Luthor for Superpowers, only preceded by her believing that any powers her Uncle got from Lex was something he wanted.

As such,.. the fight was too artificial.

Natasha would not beat her Uncle for coming to look for her in the house of his enemy.

Natasha would not take Johns attempt at making peace to knock him into the Harbor.

I stand by what I typed earlier in ref to this.


SIGH.

[marcofthebeast]

Yeah,..
It really didn't fit into what has come before for her.

The LAST thing she'd have done is run to Lex Luthor for Superpowers, only preceded by her believing that any powers her Uncle got from Lex was something he wanted.

As such,.. the fight was too artificial.

Natasha would not beat her Uncle for coming to look for her in the house of his enemy.

Natasha would not take Johns attempt at making peace to knock him into the Harbor.

I stand by what I typed earlier in ref to this.


SIGH.

I don't know why people feel the need to point out how uncharacteristic it is, when steel points it out himself. When people become crazy powerful over a short period of time they become *****.

[Varient]

I concur. Especially since I have a feeling theyre going to kill him off.
Yes.
The "general" feel of 52 is that most who are active in the year after crisis won't be after the big three come back.

Too bad too,... I was hoping that they would wiggle out a way to bring back John Henry Irons,...

On the Question?

I'm liking how they are bringing
him up - I liked the ditko version way back in the before time.:up:

[onceasaint]

He already had a mini, like two years ago.

The mini was 2005 if I remember right. My local comic book store is crap. They got taken over by this small family a few years back and now its all anime card battle game stuff, whatever leftover collectibles the previous owner sold with the store and a couple of back issues. The last time I went back there was only cause my friend who lives near it told me they had Infinite Crisis #7.

I asked them about The Question mini when it came out and they just kind of blinked. I only got to read part of an issue when I was in Midtown comics one day killing time before a job interview not far from there. The rest of my knowledge of the character came from google/wiki and reading a couple issues of the O'Neil run my brother's friend had.

[onceasaint]

Yes.
The "general" feel of 52 is that most who are active in the year after crisis won't be after the big three come back.

Too bad too,... I was hoping that they would wiggle out a way to bring back John Henry Irons,...

On the Question?

I'm liking how they are bringing
him up - I liked the ditko version way back in the before time.:up:

The before time?

You mean the long long ago?

[OA blaster]

maybe after 52 the creeper and the question will team-up for a limited series with montaya slowly going crazy from dealing with the two of them

[sinewave]

maybe after 52 the creeper and the question will team-up for a limited series with montaya slowly going crazy from dealing with the two of them

Ha! That sounds like something Grant Morrison should write. :)

Seriously though, I'd love to see hard boiled type of comic with The Question and Slam Bradley. Maybe have cameos from Catwoman, Black Canary and Wildcat from time to time. That'd be fun.

[Varient]

The before time?

You mean the long long ago?

Why yes.
You also recognize the whichness of what,... Do you Grok The fullness Brother?

[OA blaster]

Ha! That sounds like something Grant Morrison should write. :)

Seriously though, I'd love to see hard boiled type of comic with The Question and Slam Bradley. Maybe have cameos from Catwoman, Black Canary and Wildcat from time to time. That'd be fun.

Slam bradley??????????
who is that??????

[sinewave]

Slam bradley??????????
who is that??????

He's a P.I. who shows up sometimes in Catwoman's comic. He might even be her baby daddy. He's a hard boiled, old school type of gumshoe who's been working the streets of Gotham longer than Batman's been around. He's cool. Here's his wikipedia bio:

Slam Bradley is a fictional character in the DC Universe. Created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster (who also created Superman), the character is a hard bitten, tough private detective who loves beautiful dames, stiff drinks and the odd fistfight now and then.

He was one of the first stars of Detective Comics, debuting in #1 (March, 1937) a year before Superman first appeared and long before Batman would make the title his home.

Originally operating out of Cleveland, then later in New York City, Slam and his sidekick "Shorty" Morgan often had humorous, fight filled adventures, often going undercover in various professions to catch their man.

Detective was originally an anthology comic so Bradley's adventures continued despite Batman's debut in #27, through World War Two and beyond, finally ending in Detective Comics #152 (October, 1949). By that point DC was engaged in a legal battle with Siegel and Shuster over the rights to Superman and it has been suggested that this is a possible cause of the strip's demise, as the publisher may not have wanted to open itself up to further litigation from the creators. The feature was replaced by Roy Raymond, TV Detective.

Bradley would not make another significant appearances for over 40 years and his sidekick Morgan disappeared completely, never to appear again.

Slam finally returned in the Superman titles in the 1990s, working for the Metropolis Police Department. However, this incarnation of the character made little impact and was short lived.

Slam's brother Biff appeared in Tim Truman's 1998 The Guns of the Dragon miniseries, which was set in the 1920s. In that story, Bradley teamed up with older versions of Bat Lash and Enemy Ace for an adventure on Dinosaur Island. Originally, Slam was slated to appear, but another editor had plans for Slam. Hence, his heretofore unknown brother Biff was substituted. At the end of the series, Biff sacrifices his life to stop the villainous Vandal Savage, although Savage would return many times later.

In 2001 Bradley finally returned to Detective Comics when writer Ed Brubaker and artist Darwyn Cooke revived the character in the 4 part serial "Trail of the Catwoman" which ran in the back of Detective Comics #759-762. In the story Bradley was hired to investigate the death of Selina Kyle and in the process fell afoul of the Batman.

This current incarnation of the character has indicated that he is a former police officer who had always worked in Gotham City, (contradicting his previous Cleveland, New York and Metropolis settings). He has been portrayed as a man in his late 50s or early 60s, which is apparently inconsistent with his original 1930s and 1940s appearances, although one may assume that his history changed with the Crisis on Infinite Earths.

After Detective Comics #762 Bradley became a supporting cast member in the 2001 Catwoman ongoing series. In that series the character has had a brief romantic relationship with Kyle and revealed that he has a son on the Gotham City Police Department: Slam Bradley Jr.

Bradley Sr. recently starred in Darwyn Cooke's Solo #5.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slam_Bradley

[OA blaster]

thanks for the info

[Darthphere]

Slam Bradley predates most modern heroes even Superman.

[sinewave]

Slam Bradley predates most modern heroes even Superman.

Yeah, that's pretty interesting. I didn't know that until I read the wiki article.

[cerealkiller182]

What about the Question and that guy who was helping Batman during Face to Face story in the Detective Comics.

[sinewave]

^ Jason Bard? Yeah that'd be okay, I guess. I kind of see Bard as a pretty boy. I'd rather have him team up with an old tough guy like Slam.

[yenaled]

I hope they keep Bard in the Detective/Batman stories. I'd hate to see a quite blatantly great character like that not get used.

[onceasaint]

Why yes.
You also recognize the whichness of what,... Do you Grok The fullness Brother?

...my cat's breath smells like cat-food...

[Darthphere]

I hope they keep Bard in the Detective/Batman stories. I'd hate to see a quite blatantly great character like that not get used.


Yes, that would be excellent though it seems for the time being they got rid of the backstory format on Detectives.

[onceasaint]

Yes, that would be excellent though it seems for the time being they got rid of the backstory format on Detectives.

As long as he keeps having sexy adventures, Im happy.

I wonder if Babs knows hes working for the Bat now or if shed care.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think Oracle's got enough operatives to not worry about losing one to Batman. Plus, Bard's a dude and Oracle's all about girl power.

[Darthphere]

I think Oracle's got enough operatives to not worry about losing one to Batman. Plus, Bard's a dude and Oracle's all about girl power.


Yeah, she has Black Canary to fulfill her needs.....all of them.

[TheCorpulent1]

And Huntress, and Gypsy, and Lady Blackbird, and Vixen...

[onceasaint]

I always imagine Oracle having after-parties when they finish their missions. All the girls drinking out of bottles and "Groove Me" playing in the background.

Awww, sookie sookie now! :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, and then they all get in their jammies and talk about boys. :)

[onceasaint]

Yeah, and then they all get in their jammies and talk about boys. :)

I know girls between 19 and 23 that really do that. :up:

God bless lingerie parties. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

I know girls who do that too, and I want to punch them in the face. :up:

[Darthphere]

I know girls who do that too, and I want to punch them in the face. :up:


Then have sex with them.

[TheCorpulent1]

While punching them.

[onceasaint]

While punching them.

It feels better that way. At least thats what Hank Pym told me...

[sinewave]

While punching them.

are you referring to the "jelly donut"? a man after my own heart! :up:

[sinewave]

And Huntress, and Gypsy, and Lady Blackbird, and Vixen...

when was vixen on the team? that sounds like a decent fit.

[onceasaint]

are you referring to the "jelly donut"? a man after my own heart! :up:

Don't forget the Strawberry Shortcake :up:

[OA blaster]

when was vixen on the team? that sounds like a decent fit.
between dark&dawn storyline

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, she kicked Huntress' ass and then revealed she was Oracle's agent on the inside of whatever the hell it was they were fighting in that arc. I can't remember.

[OA blaster]

a cult that worship heroes as angels and demon involving Brainiac

[onceasaint]

a cult that worship heroes as angels and demon involving Brainiac

Scientology?

[TheCorpulent1]

It probably was a little riff on Scientology, now that I think about it.

[Batman]

The Joker should've been the leader, then. And he should've jumped on a couch.

[sinewave]

between dark&dawn storyline

was that before gail simone took over?

[onceasaint]

Jumping on the couch and using the joybuzzer stunner on Oprah, over and over again. :up:

[OA blaster]

it think he just started to write on the series

[TheCorpulent1]

was that before gail simone took over?
Simone was already writing.

[OA blaster]

fair enough

[sinewave]

Hmmm, it must have been just before I started reading it then. I'll have to pick up that tpb sometime.

[onceasaint]

I know who Supernova is!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Dean

:up:

[sinewave]

go away. :down

[onceasaint]

Well if you have a better explanation Id like to hear...er.. read it.

[trustyside-kick]

Bout time I start to check out this thread. I had every single issue except for Week 5 up until today (forgot to go to my local comicbook store when it came out that week so went next week and was sold out :( :mad:); at least the guy was nice enough to order one just for me :). Therefore I didn't read anything past Week 4 for a while even though I had 6, 7, and 8 (got 9 today). That being said, I did not want to come here and have stuff spoiled.

One of the things I love most about this series is the History of the DCU at the end of all the issues past Week 1. :up:

Also, 52 in general is great and I am definetly looking forward to the rest of the series. Lex's scheme looks very interesting and I am very curious as to how that will turn out.

[onceasaint]

Bout time I start to check out this thread. I had every single issue except for Week 5 up until today (forgot to go to my local comicbook store when it came out that week so went next week and was sold out :( :mad:); at least the guy was nice enough to order one just for me :). Therefore I didn't read anything past Week 4 for a while even though I had 6, 7, and 8 (got 9 today). That being said, I did not want to come here and have stuff spoiled.

One of the things I love most about this series is the History of the DCU at the end of all the issues past Week 1. :up:

Also, 52 in general is great and I am definetly looking forward to the rest of the series. Lex's scheme looks very interesting and I am very curious as to how that will turn out.

Im more interested in the Origin Of stuff theyre gonna do after they wrap up the History of the DCU thing. I think The Question was on the list. I want to see if they make any changes.

[trustyside-kick]

Im more interested in the Origin Of stuff theyre gonna do after they wrap up the History of the DCU thing. I think The Question was on the list. I want to see if they make any changes.

O wow. I do not look for news or sneak peaks so I was never aware of this 'Origin of Stuff' you are talking about. You are right; that is something to look forward to as well.

[onceasaint]

Its nothing that takes away from the story, unless i was to give the details of the origins. i dont know them by the way, even if i did i wouldnt spoil that. the history of the dcu is obviously wrapping up because theyve began working up from the events of the last crisis to now, so its almost over.

[trustyside-kick]

Its nothing that takes away from the story, unless i was to give the details of the origins.

Oh don't worry; after finding out about it it did not take anything away from the story for me. I mean, if I knew ahead of time that there was the whole History of the DCU from issues 2 to present it would not have taken anything away from the story for me either.

i dont know them by the way, even if i did i wouldnt spoil that.

And yea, I know you wouldn't spoil them if you knew the details of the origins. You would piss off a crapload of the people in these boards if you did. :O

the history of the dcu is obviously wrapping up because theyve began working up from the events of the last crisis to now, so its almost over.

Yea, but do you know how many parts the History of the DCU is supposed to be?

After finally being able to read all my 52 issues (explained why in my first post here) I am extremely hyped up about how the entire series will turn out. :)

[onceasaint]

Yea, but do you know how many parts the History of the DCU is supposed to be?

After finally being able to read all my 52 issues (explained why in my first post here) I am extremely hyped up about how the entire series will turn out. :)

I dont know how many parts exactly, but I dont think there are a lot left. There are some Origin Ofs in mentioned in previews for coming issues (like mid to late teens)

[trustyside-kick]

Even though she didn't say or do anything I was surprised that at the end of the 9th issue we saw Batwoman on the roof. I thought she was not making her appearance til the 11th issue. :confused:

[onceasaint]

From what Ive read, the surprises just seem to get bigger. Its an addicting series. As soon as you put on issue down youre itching to find out what happens next.

[Darthphere]

Its good only to have to wait a week. Im pretty sure we'll be missing having a title every week when it ends.

[trustyside-kick]

Its good only to have to wait a week. Im pretty sure we'll be missing having a title every week when it ends.

Yea. I mean...I am still adjusting to the fact that I can get it every week and am still shocked. When 52 ends all hell will break loose trying to get used to how it normally is. :(

Another great thing about it being released weekly is the fact that the story seems to be so addicting and if I had to wait monthly I would be going crazy. :O

[trustyside-kick]

Its good only to have to wait a week. Im pretty sure we'll be missing having a title every week when it ends.

Yea. I mean...I am still adjusting to the fact that I can get it every week and am still shocked. When 52 ends all hell will break loose trying to get used to how it normally is. :(

Another great thing about it being released weekly is the fact that the story seems to be so addicting and if I had to wait monthly I would be going crazy or forget stuff. :O

[onceasaint]

Its good only to have to wait a week. Im pretty sure we'll be missing having a title every week when it ends.

It is nice to pick up the continuing story every week. The wait still gets to you, but not as bad as with other titles. I hope they keep on schedule.

[trustyside-kick]

How many people exactly are working on this series for it to come out so fast (weekly)?

Imagine if DC started to slowly do this with other series. :)

[Darthphere]

Theyll probably have a hiccup or two, maybe due to a natural disaster or Grant Morrison fell in his portal of weird.

[Darthphere]

How many people exactly are working on this series for it to come out so fast (weekly)?


Imagine if DC started to slowly do this with other series. :)


They have 4 writers, and Giffen does the layouts and rotating artists.

[trustyside-kick]

They have 4 writers, and Giffen does the layouts and rotating artists.

Oh ok; figured. But don't you think it would be nice if they did that more often? Or like I said in my previous post - slowly but gradually do this with other series.

[onceasaint]

They have 4 writers, and Giffen does the layouts and rotating artists.

Im continually impressed by the art, is consistently good thus far. I hope when its in the 30s and 40s its still this good.

[Darthphere]

Oh ok; figured. But don't you think it would be nice if they did that more often? Or like I said in my previous post - slowly but gradually do this with other series.


Wouldnt be possible. Theyd have to employ hundreds or artists and hundreds of writers.

[onceasaint]

Wouldnt be possible. Theyd have to employ hundreds or artists and hundreds of writers.

Bill Cosby made Fat Albert with one can of paint and a roller, animated the entire series and it was excellent!

Though if Cosby ran the DCU everyone would end their fights with pudding pops. I cant see Jason Todd wearing a plaid sweater and his red hood helmet offering Batman a pudding pop to make up. Bruce would just narrow his eyes and walk away... if he didnt beat Jason with the pudding pop like it was a crowbar.

[onceasaint]

Yea, but do you know how many parts the History of the DCU is supposed to be?


I found this on the wikipedia entry for 52:

As well, a back-up storyline entitled History of the DC Universe will run in ten parts in the back of Weeks 2-11, just as DC Comics published a similar history in a two-issue limited series at the conclusion of Crisis on Infinite Earths (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths) in 1985. The story of the universe's history is seen through the eyes of Donna Troy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Troy) as she explores it through the late Harbinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbinger_%28DC_Comics%29)'s recording device. Dan Jurgens and Art Thibert are the creative team for History. [1] (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6658)


:up:

[trustyside-kick]

Thanks, onceasaint. :up:

[onceasaint]

Anyone have a clue how Luthors making people into metas?

[trustyside-kick]

Anyone have a clue how Luthors making people into metas?

Well I am more confused about something else he is doing with that 'project'.

Doesn't Steel mention something about Lex planning on controlling the people he turns into 'superheroes'? Then I think Lex at one point under his breath saying how they will be his 'slaves' or something...

If that is true how come Steel isn't being affected that way? Because he didn't get the same type of treatment (the whole machine and the wires and crap that we saw his niece in at the end of Week 8 I believe)? Although, I forget how Steel exactly gets 'infected' with it anyway...doesn't Lex just put his hand on his shoulder? I know they did a close up with his ring but still did it like drop the liquid on Steel?

[Nightwing]

Even though she didn't say or do anything I was surprised that at the end of the 9th issue we saw Batwoman on the roof. I thought she was not making her appearance til the 11th issue. :confused:

Issue #7 was her first appearence as Kathy Kane. Issue #9 was her first appearence as Batwoman. In issue #11 is when we learn more about who she is.

[trustyside-kick]

Issue #7 was her first appearence as Kathy Kane. Issue #9 was her first appearence as Batwoman. In issue #11 is when we learn more about who she is.

I know we saw her in Issue 7 but like you said as Kathy Kane. I thought he first appearance as Batwoman would be 11, not 9.

[onceasaint]

Knowing Luthor theres gotta be some kind of collar on all his pets. If he's giving away power its because he's still got a grip on it somehow. I'm just wondering what he's using to give them the powers. Maybe it's not real superhuman powers, maybe its nano-tech giving the appearance of it.

I did read something that seemed spoilerish on another site that I think might be related to it but Im not sure yet. I usually dont care about the 'what' of Luthor's plans in the comics, its the 'why' that Im interested in.

[OA blaster]

52 is one of the most orginal ideas for comic books ever

but i have one question, what is happening with the society of supervillians during 52

[TheCorpulent1]

They're probably still scrambling to reorganize after Alex's pwning.

[OA blaster]

They're probably still scrambling to reorganize after Alex's pwning.

i'm amazed the society have not made a move against Luthor and his Meta army yet

Taila and Calculator must see the threat, Luthor holds against their organisation

[onceasaint]

i'm amazed the society have not made a move against Luthor and his Meta army yet

Taila and Calculator must see the threat, Luthor holds against their organisation


The Calculator would only formulate a strike plan if he had the proper intel first and they saw Luthor as immediate threat to their goals specifically. They'll let each other go till one gets in the other's way.

[OA blaster]

The Calculator would only formulate a strike plan if he had the proper intel first and they saw Luthor as immediate threat to their goals specifically. They'll let each other go till one gets in the other's way.

if i was on the society council, i would bury Lex Luthor as a warning to anyone else, who would thing of screwing with the society, no matter if they are from another universe version



i have alot of rage against Lex Luthor.........i'm getting professional help in Jack Daniels whiskey

[onceasaint]

The Society got pimp slapped by the Secret Six. The last people youd ever expect to do that much damage. Luthor didnt even take long to organize them. Obviously they wont underestimate him twice. If they wanted to take him down, theyd wait and make sure they succeeded.

I wouldnt mind Luthor getting his ass kicked, but thats what Supes is for.

[OA blaster]

they got beatin because alex was holding them back from killing them straight away

[onceasaint]

Alex and the Society never seemed to understand the 'dance' of it all like Luthor. As much as he annoys me, his character seems to get how things work in the DCU more than most villains. No matter what they do, I doubt he'd be permanently eliminated. The guy always has a few aces up his sleeve.


Has anyone read Week 10 yet?

I just finished reading it.

[trustyside-kick]

Alex and the Society never seemed to understand the 'dance' of it all like Luthor. As much as he annoys me, his character seems to get how things work in the DCU more than most villains. No matter what they do, I doubt he'd be permanently eliminated. The guy always has a few aces up his sleeve.


Has anyone read Week 10 yet?

I just finished reading it.

Came out earlier this week? Today? Odd because I went to my local store yesterday when I got my other issues and did not see it.

[Varient]

I don't know why people feel the need to point out how uncharacteristic it is, when steel points it out himself. When people become crazy powerful over a short period of time they become *****.
Whatever,.. I got people in the comic store thinking it's okay that Nat "suddenly" changed enough to drop 100 IQ points AND was too willing to put herself under her Uncles enemy actually begging for powers.

I'm reading it here too............................

[OA blaster]

Whatever,.. I got people in the comic store thinking it's okay that Nat "suddenly" changed enough to drop 100 IQ points AND was too willing to put herself under her Uncles enemy actually begging for powers.

I'm reading it here too............................


it amazing that people would be so desperate for super powers, NAT should be an indivual and build her own armour, at least she would not be under Luthor's thumb and have a great respect from the superhero commity for her intelligence

[Varient]

it amazing that people would be so desperate for super powers, NAT should be an indivual and build her own armour, at least she would not be under Luthor's thumb and have a great respect from the superhero commity for her intelligence
I guess to put it in context:

Natashia doing what she did would be the same as if

A vegetarian, non-smoking, drinker of only water who grew her own food suddenly decided that because she found out that someone had fed her vegitarian Uncle a mcdonalds hamburger:

That she needs to go To the Outback resturant,... order the Gut-Buster T-Bone, drink A Gin and Tonic, and Ask for some weed to smoke afterwards.

sigh.

[Darthphere]

I guess to put it in context:

Natashia doing what she did would be the same as if

A vegetarian, non-smoking, drinker of only water who grew her own food suddenly decided that because she found out that someone had fed her vegitarian Uncle a mcdonalds hamburger:

That she needs to go To the Outback resturant,... order the Gut-Buster T-Bone, drink A Gin and Tonic, and Ask for some weed to smoke afterwards.

sigh.


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[OA blaster]

I guess to put it in context:

Natashia doing what she did would be the same as if

A vegetarian, non-smoking, drinker of only water who grew her own food suddenly decided that because she found out that someone had fed her vegitarian Uncle a mcdonalds hamburger:

That she needs to go To the Outback resturant,... order the Gut-Buster T-Bone, drink A Gin and Tonic, and Ask for some weed to smoke afterwards.

sigh.

Nat is an idiot

[Darthphere]

I didnt even bother trying to read the History of the DCU backstory. I could care less at this point.

[Doc Destruction]

You don't really have to, if you've read IC, etc.

[Darthphere]

Yeah, like I said, I could care less.

[SonOfCthulhu]

Yeah, like I said, I could care less.

And after next month *poof* it's gone!

[marcofthebeast]

And after next month *poof* it's gone!
Even sooner then that, next week.

[trustyside-kick]

You don't really have to, if you've read IC, etc.

Well they also talk about changes made because of Infinite Crisis in History of the DCU; like Batman's killer being Joe Chill and being caught by the police but still pursues the mantle of Batman. Small stuff like that. :O

[Tropico]

I guess to put it in context:

Natashia doing what she did would be the same as if

A vegetarian, non-smoking, drinker of only water who grew her own food suddenly decided that because she found out that someone had fed her vegitarian Uncle a mcdonalds hamburger:

That she needs to go To the Outback resturant,... order the Gut-Buster T-Bone, drink A Gin and Tonic, and Ask for some weed to smoke afterwards.

sigh.

The thing is that she didn't know he was "fed a Big Mac". She thought he was "pigging out" after cracking down on her and taking away her armor and telling her that she had to earn it. I can see how in her frustration over her failures re-buidling the armor and then seeing her uncle as a hypocrite it would lead her to take the foolish first step. That's all I'll allow, though. If her state of mind isn't being altered by whatever procedure she went through to get the powers then I'll agree with you all and say that this is crap.

[Mister J]

We'll get 'Secret Origins' after the 'History of the DCU' finishes next issue. I rather have that if we're not gonna get more pages of actual story,

[SonOfCthulhu]

Even sooner then that, next week.

*/damn weekly book!

[SonOfCthulhu]

We'll get 'Secret Origins' after the 'History of the DCU' finishes next issue. I rather have that if we're not gonna get more pages of actual story,

And one will be a Question. Four pages of Question. That is great news.

[Darthphere]

Ha-ha, I knew it. all 4 issues of 52 last month dropped out of the top 10.

[onceasaint]

That Nat/Steel story is boring me... somebody punch a reality wall. :(

[Mister J]

And one will be a Question. Four pages of Question. That is great news.
It sucks that we'll have to wait until Week 18 for it.

[onceasaint]

Or! We bust out the Cosmic Treadmill! :up: