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Doc Destruction
08-18-2006, 03:29 PM
Dammit I have to wait until I get home to see that...stupid work proxy!
Darthphere
08-18-2006, 03:31 PM
It answers all the questions of 52.
Mister J
08-18-2006, 03:33 PM
Yup Yup. :(
Darthphere
08-18-2006, 03:33 PM
I think the mystery has been solved.
Mister J
08-18-2006, 03:37 PM
They took 52, hyped it up, put the funky beats behind it and made it Ice ...and it's clean for the kids, too. :up:
Go Levitz, Go Levitz, Go...:dry:
GoldenAgeHero
08-18-2006, 03:47 PM
^^wtf.lmao
Darthphere
08-18-2006, 03:50 PM
They took 52, hyped it up, put the funky beats behind it and made it Ice ...and it's clean for the kids, too. :up:
Go Levitz, Go Levitz, Go...:dry:
The new hit of the summer. :o
SonOfCthulhu
08-18-2006, 05:11 PM
Or kill the rest :o
I'm more worried that if they kill off The Question, It'll be like they bought out Charlton's licenses just to kill them in interesting ways.
The Question
08-18-2006, 05:20 PM
GR: L-Ron will be joining Montoya in a new Metropolis: VICE series.
I'd read it.
hippie_hunter
08-18-2006, 05:38 PM
I'm more worried that if they kill off The Question, It'll be like they bought out Charlton's licenses just to kill them in interesting ways.
Now that you mention it, DC is making a habit also to kill off the Charlton characters too :(
SonOfCthulhu
08-18-2006, 05:40 PM
Now that you mention it, DC is making a habit also to kill off the Charlton characters too :(
Technically Captain Atom isn't dead, but if they've made him Monarch then he might as well be. He was another character that had potential that they never could figure out how to use.
The Question
08-18-2006, 05:50 PM
Holy crap, you're right. Captain Atom's a barely recognisable character, Blue Beetle's dead, Peacemaker died twice....the only ones left are Sarge Steel, The Question, and Nightshade. :(
hippie_hunter
08-18-2006, 05:56 PM
Technically Captain Atom isn't dead, but if they've made him Monarch then he might as well be. He was another character that had potential that they never could figure out how to use.
I'm thinking that he's dead. He freaking self-exploded and destroyed Bludhaven into a gigantic crater
TheCorpulent1
08-18-2006, 06:50 PM
Captain Atom could destroy a city without killing himself. I just wish they'd given even the slightest explanation why he destroyed Bludhaven. He just woke up, nuked Bludhaven, and disappeared. At this point I wish he'd just stayed in the Wildstorm universe, where he at least had some respect.
yenaled
08-18-2006, 08:26 PM
Captain Atom is annoying me becuase I was hoping he would come back to DC join the JLA and become a huge important hero... but alas.
Same with Booster Gold really. I think Melzler would have been able to write an amazinzingly good Booster... but I guess he can't now.
Darthphere
08-18-2006, 08:27 PM
He wouldnt have been able to anyway until 52 ended.
The Question
08-18-2006, 08:30 PM
You know what would be one bright spot in all of this? A mini series, possibly by the Giffen/DeMattes/Maguire team, about Booster and Ted, now that they're all corpsified, going on a cosmic road trip through every afterlife and alternate universe depicted in DC.
TheCorpulent1
08-18-2006, 09:32 PM
That would be pretty sweet.
trustyside-kick
08-18-2006, 09:35 PM
The way and reason Booster died was no shock; although I am curious as to who Supernova is...I mean we all saw that scene of Clark heading out and saying "This is a job for Supernova" but yet we see Clark at the scene with Supernova. I am liking this whole Montoya and Question arc still. The Steel arc has not progressed much though, that bothers me. I was hoping they would have shown a lot more since I was very curious about Lex's plan with the "wanna be a superhero?" scheme.
TheCorpulent1
08-18-2006, 09:40 PM
That scene with Clark saying "this is a job for Supernova" could've been a completely meaningless scene. People who aren't Superman used to say "this is a job for Superman" all the time, after all. But, assuming it does have some meaning, it left me wondering whether Supernova might be either a reconfigured Eradicator or a Superman android that survived Superman's android purge. And, of course, there's always the suspicion that he could be either an alternate reality Booster Gold or a future, wiser Booster Gold. The mystery's surprisingly compelling, actually.
trustyside-kick
08-18-2006, 09:57 PM
I do not understand your little theory on how Supernova could be Booster Gold from the future or from another reality. I was a little shocked though on how he was talking to Booster at times.
When I read Week 15 and saw the scene with Supernova and Clark the only thing I could come up with was a possible andriod of his...I really wanna find out who this guy is.
Speedball
08-18-2006, 10:00 PM
Oh my God...
poor Booster :(
Too bad he can come back, using the way he got to that world anyway.
I can't wait to see what happens to Renee and Charlie.
Will they be protected by Adam, because he knows they aren't criminals? or will he try to kill them?
Speedball
08-18-2006, 10:10 PM
I do not understand your little theory on how Supernova could be Booster Gold from the future or from another reality. I was a little shocked though on how he was talking to Booster at times.
When I read Week 15 and saw the scene with Supernova and Clark the only thing I could come up with was a possible andriod of his...I really wanna find out who this guy is.
Lol, definantly not Booster.
Maybe it's Breach?
It has to be someone who has died.
Speedball
08-18-2006, 10:13 PM
It could another Superman that survived the Crisis.
He could have developed powers different from the others, where he actually uses the power of the sun as a power, instead of it being his energy source.
TheCorpulent1
08-18-2006, 10:14 PM
Why does it have to be someone who died?
It could potentially be Booster because comic book time travel frequently creates alternate realities and myriad possible futures. Maybe one Booster came back from one possible future as a capitalistic dick and stuck with the Booster Gold name, and another Booster came back from another possible future as a reformed, serious superhero wearing a different type of powered armor and took up the Supernova monicker. Simple.
trustyside-kick
08-18-2006, 10:15 PM
Why does it have to be someone who died?
I am just throwing this out there...but with the whole cult thing and Superboy being dead and the guy being called Supernova and appearently knowing Clark...Supernova better not be Connor Kent brought back to life without the lil cult knowing about it...
TheCorpulent1
08-18-2006, 10:15 PM
How would he have come back to life? :confused:
I doubt Supernova is Breach because Breach's powers were totally different from Supernova's. I wouldn't mind knowing that Breach somehow survived, though. I liked him.
trustyside-kick
08-18-2006, 10:18 PM
I was just throwing it out there hoping it does not end up like that. I like Superboy but he should stay dead. What happened in the end of IC had a huge impact so they shouldn't ruin it by bringing him back.
TheCorpulent1
08-18-2006, 10:20 PM
I'd like Superboy to come back. I don't think his death at the end of IC was terribly meaningful anyway. He'd already proven that he was over his moping phase and was ready to get in the saddle and seriously devote himself to filling Superman's shoes one day. His sacrificing his life to... well, not really do anything against Superboy Prime was just reinforcement of that.
Green Lantern
08-18-2006, 11:06 PM
Of course bad stories can be forgotten. Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman have all survived more than their fair share of crappy stories, and people are generally pretty good about picking out the ones that are true to the character from the ones that aren't. To use your own example, Nightwing is still a beloved character and most people are already just ignoring the current story and waiting for Wolfman to come on in the hopes that Wolfman, who's had a major hand in his development before, will understand the character better than Jones and deliver a better story. Someone on one of those billion TV specials that were on just before Superman Returns came out said that Superman has been so successful because he's had the strength to survive his own history. That applies to almost all of the major characters, really. People will ***** about the bad when it's happening, but they'll remember the good runs long after they're finished.:up: A mouse with a toaster could write better Nightwing than Jones...
Green Lantern
08-18-2006, 11:08 PM
Then how do you explain the amount of fanboy griping about Hal Jordan's turn as Parallax and Jade's infidelities? Those were poor storylines that damaged those characters' reputations, and we all know that most fans haven't let them live those missteps down.... Jade wasn't the main character of the book, its because she SCREWED OVER the main character of the book that people never let her live it down. She lived as a **** and died as one too
Darthphere
08-18-2006, 11:08 PM
I could write better Nightwing.
trustyside-kick
08-18-2006, 11:08 PM
I do not want to go off topic but man do I want that story taken out of continuity with an "Oops" label slapped onto all the covers.
It is a real shock to me when I look at Batman: Year One Scarecrow and then at that Nightwing OYL arc since Jones wrote both.
I could write better Nightwing.
Would it have out of continuity Jason Todd octopus pages in every issue?
...Done by Rob Liefeld?
Darthphere
08-18-2006, 11:18 PM
Yes.
TheCorpulent1
08-18-2006, 11:21 PM
That would've been funnier if Liefeld weren't really getting work still with that Heroes Reborn thing soon.
Darthphere
08-18-2006, 11:22 PM
Ron Lim would do breakdowns.
I would buy it.:o
Yes, yes I would.
TheCorpulent1
08-18-2006, 11:24 PM
Lim would break you down for making fun of him. Shut up. :o
Green Lantern
08-18-2006, 11:24 PM
Bruce Jones is the reason I won't touch Deadman with a ten foot pole
Darthphere
08-18-2006, 11:25 PM
Lim would break you down for making fun of him. Shut up. :o
Phillip Tan is doing the pencils though.:confused:
TheCorpulent1
08-18-2006, 11:27 PM
Bruce Jones is the reason I won't touch Deadman with a ten foot pole
Pity it isn't just common decency. Honestly, running around poking people with ten-foot poles? You ought to be ashamed. :o
The Question
08-18-2006, 11:35 PM
Bruce Jones is the reason I won't touch Deadman with a ten foot pole
The fact that it isn't Boston Brand is my reson. I mean, what's the excuse for not using him? It's not like they can kill him off.
Green Lantern
08-18-2006, 11:49 PM
Pity it isn't just common decency. Honestly, running around poking people with ten-foot poles? You ought to be ashamed. :o*pokes Corp with a ten foot pole* This way I don't get your nasty germs on me. *pokes again in the eye*
Varient
08-19-2006, 01:34 AM
Why does it have to be someone who died?
It could potentially be Booster because comic book time travel frequently creates alternate realities and myriad possible futures. Maybe one Booster came back from one possible future as a capitalistic dick and stuck with the Booster Gold name, and another Booster came back from another possible future as a reformed, serious superhero wearing a different type of powered armor and took up the Supernova monicker. Simple.
OR
It could be Supergirl in a disquise in training.
yenaled
08-19-2006, 01:53 AM
I'm not sure if I buy the Supernova is Booster theory. But I'd be willing to accept it.
I'd accept a yellow fear demon as explanation for him not being dead.
Bring Booster back you ****ers. I'll swap all the Boston Brands in the world, 12 Jason Todd's, 10 evil Batgirls, Squidface Aquaman and L-Ron for him.
Reading the last issue again there the sea creature just stinks of fake. Not only does it really remind me of Watchmen and that fake event (I think the shot of it and what the creature looks like is simular) and after Booster has a hard time fighting it Supernova just flies in and is disapears... he "zapped it" hardly convincing.
TheCorpulent1
08-19-2006, 09:23 AM
OR
It could be Supergirl in a disquise in training.
It could, but I was trying to come up with theories that would make Supernova be interesting rather than theories that would make him automatically suck.
Darthphere
08-19-2006, 10:14 AM
From the B/T thread:
52 Week 15- Well the cover pretty much gives away the whole issue, but like always nothing is what it seems. Booster Gold is lets say pissed about his outing as a fraud, and his anger points towards Metropolis newest hero Supernova. Booster acts like an ass, then redeems himself when he "dies" saving Metropolis from a nuclear sub. All in all I must say, this has been my least favorite issue so far. Not because of Booster's death, but because everything seemed so cliche and hackneyed. Like if Chuck Austen had written this (hyperbole). We got a glimpse of Montoya and "Charlie escaping from jail. Ok, can we drop this Charlie thing please, and bring back the fedora already. All in all JLI loses one more member to death. I hope this ends soon, because maybe some writers feel the JLI characters are oldhat or redundant, or whatever, but every character has a fan and a writer who will do them justice. 6/10
The Question
08-19-2006, 11:19 AM
I'm not sure if I buy the Supernova is Booster theory. But I'd be willing to accept it.
I'd accept a yellow fear demon as explanation for him not being dead.
Bring Booster back you ****ers. I'll swap all the Boston Brands in the world, 12 Jason Todd's, 10 evil Batgirls, Squidface Aquaman and L-Ron for him.
Reading the last issue again there the sea creature just stinks of fake. Not only does it really remind me of Watchmen and that fake event (I think the shot of it and what the creature looks like is simular) and after Booster has a hard time fighting it Supernova just flies in and is disapears... he "zapped it" hardly convincing.
Well, Supernova (aparantly) has teleportation powers.
Purple Man
08-19-2006, 11:55 AM
Well, Supernova (aparantly) has teleportation powers.
Did it teleport or get shrunk?
Get out your magnifying glasses kids!
Ray Palmer got his powers from a white dwarf star, what are the chances of a white dwarf star going supernova after its reputation is ruined by its crazy ex wife?
Darthphere
08-19-2006, 03:25 PM
Hmmmmm....
TheCorpulent1
08-19-2006, 05:24 PM
Did it teleport or get shrunk?
Get out your magnifying glasses kids!
Ray Palmer got his powers from a white dwarf star, what are the chances of a white dwarf star going supernova after its reputation is ruined by its crazy ex wife?
Um... pretty much nonexistent unless it's in a binary system. Anyway, DiDio's said time and again that Ray Palmer's gone, period. He's not coming back for the foreseeable future and, given that the current comics are picking up right where 52 ends, I'd say their futures are pretty foreseeable from 52 itself.
Anubis
08-19-2006, 10:19 PM
Well, considering how the guy acted when he got blown up, knowing his real name and all, it's gotta be somebody close to him. First instinct is to say Blue Beetle. Come back to life by some freaky continuity loop hole due to the Crisis. But I highly doubt it. Another theory, which I've always suspected from the start, was that Supernova was actually Booster. A Booster from further down the time line, (Alternate time line maybe) where he got past being a douche and decided to be a hero for the right reasons. It's a possibility, but unlikely as well. Maybe it's the time traveling guy? You know, Rip Hunter. I don't know. In the end, I don't think we've seen the last of Booster. I don't think he's really dead and that he's gonna show up again before all this is over.
yenaled
08-20-2006, 06:14 AM
He didn't actually call Booster by his real name that was Skeets.
supes_el
08-20-2006, 08:43 AM
Good issue. I was surprised how chummy CK was with SuperNova. I was glad that Booster died doing something heroic but do not care more than that. Anyway, looking forward to the next issue to get back to track with Adam, Steel, Cult of Conner, Question, and Boost.....err never mind the last one ;)
TheCorpulent1
08-20-2006, 01:04 PM
I'm going to officially start calling Steel "Steelossus" now. :o
GoldenAgeHero
08-20-2006, 01:12 PM
does anyone like the metal men part of the 52 series? i really hope a series based on the characters come out, but i don't want them to be superheroes, i want it to be presented as some science fiction theatre type of series.
TheCorpulent1
08-20-2006, 01:20 PM
There hasn't really been much of a Metal Men part to the series so far. We've had what, like, three scenes where Will Magnus talked to Professor Morrow and one scene where he tried to reactivate Mercury? It's not bad so far, but it's a subplot that's apparently way down the line in importance. I hope the Metal Men are, at some point, reactivated and return to the hero scene, though.
yenaled
08-20-2006, 05:44 PM
I'm really interested where the Will Magnus and T. O. Morrow story is going actually. I like them exploring the science and technology side of the DCU and mad scientists and pipe smoking doctor is good for me.
I'm sure it will lead to something good.
Or Will Magnus being burt to a skellington.
Darthphere
08-20-2006, 05:57 PM
T.O. Morrow is gangsta.
yenaled
08-20-2006, 05:59 PM
He definatly has the most gangsta name in comics.
The Question
08-20-2006, 06:03 PM
I love T.O. Morrow. On the one hand, he's a scientific visionary. Invented a method to create artificial sentient life. On the other hand, he's a power hungry homicidal maniac who uses his inventions to kill people and cause general destruction. He's like Hanibal Lectre, but about a billion times smarter.
yenaled
08-20-2006, 06:06 PM
And Will Magnus has a pipe.
Darthphere
08-20-2006, 06:06 PM
And Will Magnus has a pipe.
Pipe=Killa Nilla level gangsta.
The Question
08-20-2006, 06:10 PM
And Will Magnus has a pipe.
More people should smoke pipes. They smell nicer and cause less lethal forms of cancer.
TheCorpulent1
08-21-2006, 12:25 AM
And they look badass.
The Question
08-21-2006, 12:26 AM
That goes without saying. Who in their right mind would **** with Will Magnus? He's the pipe smoking leader of a band of zany-yet-deadly shapeshifting androids.
TheCorpulent1
08-21-2006, 12:36 AM
Well, right now he's the pipe-smoking confidante of a wacko genius.
The Question
08-21-2006, 12:40 AM
Still, Will Magnus is just plain deadly. Almost as deadly as Ben Franklin. Now, Ben Franklin, that guy was good at killing. He got away with alot of killing that nobody knows about by tying kite strings around people's necks and summoning down lightning to kill them. I have a copy of the origional Farmer's Almanac. About half of it is dedicated to ways of killing people. Anyway, long story short, Will Magnus is very very badass. And his pipe is a manifestation of his badassery, as a katana is to a Samurai.
Varient
08-21-2006, 04:07 AM
I'm going to officially start calling Steel "Steelossus" now. :o
(cringe)
I hope the change is 100% voluntary,... and he chooses NOT TO USE IT.
Also hope the Pauleen Pureheart trying so hard to be in his life gets the FEM-Steel gear and beats some sense into Natasha with it.
On Renee and the Q man? I hope they both survive this,....
Booster? Bubye and good riddance - There was a moment just prior to JLI where he became a hero.
Adam Strange, Starfire the unselfconcious, and Domesticated man? Get them back to earth already,..... I like all three,.. Just not together.
yenaled
08-21-2006, 06:21 AM
I think the space group are excellent together. Animal Man better not die though.
OA blaster
08-21-2006, 09:35 AM
I think the space group are excellent together. Animal Man better not die though.
i skip the space stories in 52, i don't know why but i like Adam Strange with no eyes, it makes him stand out more
Darthphere
08-21-2006, 09:57 AM
I think the space group are excellent together. Animal Man better not die though.
He was on JLI, hes dead.
sinewave
08-21-2006, 10:50 AM
i skip the space stories in 52, i don't know why but i like Adam Strange with no eyes, it makes him stand out more
I forget, who got Adam Strange's eyes?
Darthphere
08-21-2006, 11:42 AM
Alan Scott.
sinewave
08-21-2006, 11:44 AM
Alan Scott.
I thought he lost one of his?
Darthphere
08-21-2006, 11:47 AM
I thought he lost one of his?
But the eye he does have, isnt his. Or at least thats how I remember it.
sinewave
08-21-2006, 11:53 AM
But the eye he does have, isnt his. Or at least thats how I remember it.
hmmm, i wonder who has the other eye, then? plus, i want to find out what's going on with giant hawkgirl.
OA blaster
08-21-2006, 12:46 PM
giant hawkgirl is still as bad as regular hawkgirl
Doc Destruction
08-21-2006, 01:32 PM
So, awesome then?
Purple Man
08-21-2006, 01:58 PM
I always thought Alan Scott could recreate any missing body parts using star heart energy.
I think the eye he does have is Adam Stranges'. There's still three eyeballs unaccounted for.
The Question
08-21-2006, 02:01 PM
I always thought Alan Scott could recreate any missing body parts using star heart energy.
He can. but he doesn't want to. To suddenly regenerate his eye would be proof that he's no longe rphysically a human being. He just can't face that, so he lives with the injury.
sinewave
08-21-2006, 02:30 PM
giant hawkgirl is still as bad as regular hawkgirl
what's with all the hawkgirl hatred around here? i'm not a huge fan of the hawk family, but i don't hold any animosity towards them either.
trustyside-kick
08-21-2006, 02:54 PM
I never understood the hatred towards her either. I don't love her or anything but I do not see why people dislike her.
Anubis
08-21-2006, 02:55 PM
Like any character, i'm just waiting for somebody to do something cool with her. Hawkman rocks though.
Doc Destruction
08-21-2006, 02:58 PM
Her run in the JSA was awesome.
The Leaguer
08-21-2006, 03:21 PM
Hawkgirl was only awesome in JSA because she got to talk to Zauriel.
Doc Destruction
08-21-2006, 03:28 PM
Yeeeaaaaaaah, no.
The Leaguer
08-21-2006, 03:30 PM
Yup.
yenaled
08-21-2006, 03:30 PM
He's right actually.
Doc Destruction
08-21-2006, 03:34 PM
No, he really isn't. Her story is very cool, and miles beyond every other weak ass version of Hawkgirl. JSA actually got me into her character quite a bit, and the fact that she ISN'T Hawkman's ***** gives her a ton of cred in my book.
So, no.
Darthphere
08-21-2006, 03:44 PM
No, he really isn't. Her story is very cool, and miles beyond every other weak ass version of Hawkgirl. JSA actually got me into her character quite a bit, and the fact that she ISN'T Hawkman's ***** gives her a ton of cred in my book.
So, no.
But Johns couldve made Vibe awesome in JSA.:confused:
yenaled
08-21-2006, 03:46 PM
Wouldn't be hard, esse.
The Jay-El-Lay Roolz!
Darthphere
08-21-2006, 03:46 PM
Wouldn't be hard, esse.
Thats ****ed up, as a hispanic, I laugh out loud.:mad:
sinewave
08-21-2006, 03:48 PM
Thats ****ed up, as a hispanic, I laugh out loud.:mad:
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!! Just put down the knife, take off your hair-net and settle down, hombre.
Darthphere
08-21-2006, 03:50 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!! Just put down the knife, take off your hair-net and settle down, hombre.
http://technolog.it.umn.edu/technolog/fall2002/film_s.jpg
sinewave
08-21-2006, 03:50 PM
Okay DP, I don't care for your demeanor. I'm marking this down in your file.
Darthphere
08-21-2006, 03:52 PM
Orale!
sinewave
08-21-2006, 03:53 PM
Zauriely
SpideyInATree
08-21-2006, 04:39 PM
Holy crap that was a pretty awesome week of 52.
I wonder if Booster is really dead or not, though he looked pretty damn dead to me.
TheCorpulent1
08-21-2006, 07:13 PM
Like Ahnuld said, he'll be back.
Speedball
08-22-2006, 12:14 AM
I was reading Legion of Superheroes #17 just a few moments ago.
There is a short scene, a page, featuring the Dominators.
Here is the full line-
"Existence is a loop. Time is a circle. And hate is eternal. Remember the fiffffdeetu."
Remember the 52? It has to be a group of people? Possibly an amount of planets destroyed during the Crisis?
Did anyone else see this?
Speedball
08-22-2006, 06:33 PM
oh...
no one responded :(
GoldenAgeHero
08-22-2006, 07:04 PM
I was reading Legion of Superheroes #17 just a few moments ago.
There is a short scene, a page, featuring the Dominators.
Here is the full line-
"Existence is a loop. Time is a circle. And hate is eternal. Remember the fiffffdeetu."
Remember the 52? It has to be a group of people? Possibly an amount of planets destroyed during the Crisis?
Did anyone else see this?
thats very much possible. and the more i think of it the whole existence is a loop and time is a circle could very well be related to booster gold and how dan didio said that his story is'nt over... maybe it can be expandednto say that on these multiple earths existed multple characters with similar origins. like this earths superman, earth-2 supes ans so forth. interesting catch. but wtf does that have to with the demonators. some how i think the future and the past are going to be connected somehow, maybe thats why supergirl was sent to the future. since shes powerful and all maybe shes there to stop the demonators.
Speedball
08-22-2006, 09:20 PM
I found another weird thing-
From 52 #22
IN THIS ISSUE: "Good news, sir. Your son Kon-El didn't die in the Crisis after all."
umm...WTF!!!
TheCorpulent1
08-23-2006, 10:27 AM
I'm fairly certain DiDio or someone else in the know has made remarks to the effect of "52" not necessarily applying only to the title and number of issues.
Purple Man
08-23-2006, 11:04 AM
If existence is a loop, maybe after the end of the Universe, a similar one is created aftewards.
Instead of there being multiple universes, there is only one universe that keeps getting replayed after burning out with subtle differences.
For example: Dawn of creation, Earth 1, End of the universe, dawn of creation, Earth 2, End of the universe
Booster Gold could be from a further cycle, passing up the dawn of his universe, and the annihilation of the current one to make it back to the current DCU. Breaking that temporal barrier between the beginning of one universe and the end of the previous one could be why Booster is accused of "breaking" time, and could also explain the discrepencies in Skeets info.
This is just a wacked out theory based off of that quote from Legion.
This probably won't be the real explanation of 52 but it's worth a shot in the dark.
GoldenAgeHero
08-23-2006, 08:05 PM
this week's issue came as a surprise. renee solved a a crime before the question ever did. has'nt everyone been saying that the question is great at solving such mysteries?! for some odd reason, i think the question is training renee to take over the mantle, after they kill off question.....maybe thats some indirectly clue as to who she really is. :confused:
GoldenAgeHero
08-23-2006, 08:07 PM
edit:double post.
OA blaster
08-24-2006, 08:39 AM
this week's issue came as a surprise. renee solved a a crime before the question ever did. has'nt everyone been saying that the question is great at solving such mysteries?! for some odd reason, i think the question is training renee to take over the mantle, after they kill off question.....maybe thats some indirectly clue as to who she really is. :confused:
the werid thing is i was thinking that exact same thing today as i read 52
GoldenAgeHero
08-24-2006, 09:36 AM
the question won't be happy to hear this theory:(
Mister J
08-24-2006, 09:37 AM
The Q/Renee dynamic did seem a bit off. In fact, it was a little too off. The thing about the rat poison seems like something Q would normally be on top of. I'm thinking he was just playing oblivious to let Renee solve it for herself and that he would have clued her in if she hadn't become aware of the plot in time for them to take action. That kinda ties in to what you guys mentioned about him 'training' her; letting her come into things on her own.
I'm still hoping Question doesn't get offed though.
GoldenAgeHero
08-24-2006, 09:39 AM
btw, how can adam strange fly a ship when he can't even see?
CanaryFan
08-24-2006, 09:40 AM
Montoya shoots somebody with the Whole Marvel family present and nobody notices??? Not even the other people in the crowd right next to the incident. I don't buy that at all.
Fledermaus
08-24-2006, 10:00 AM
Other people noticed. It looked to me like the shot occured right as a bolt of magical lightning struck. And you know how loud magical lightning can be.
btw, how can adam strange fly a ship when he can't even see?
Cause he's the goddamned Adam Strange.
The Question
08-24-2006, 10:47 AM
the question won't be happy to hear this theory:(
Meh, I've had it before. Q's status as more of a supporting character through all of this has worried me slightly from the begining. They might explain that Q has some kind of terminal ilness, and wants someone to take over protecting Hub City for him.
trustyside-kick
08-24-2006, 12:10 PM
I hope Q doesn't get offed...I started to get really into the guy in Cry for Blood (or whatever Huntress related story he was in...though I'm sure that is the one :O) and 52 makes me like the guy even more.
BrianWilly
08-24-2006, 03:36 PM
Do the Marvels have super hearing? I don't remember that they do.
drastic_quench
08-24-2006, 03:55 PM
Nope. They don't.
CanaryFan
08-24-2006, 08:43 PM
Other people noticed. It looked to me like the shot occured right as a bolt of magical lightning struck. And you know how loud magical lightning can be..
Not loud enough to cover up a gun shot right next to your head, and nobody noticed at all. They all just kept on cheering the wedding. No body reacted to the dead body leaking blood all over the place either. The lightning could have covered up the sound from most people but not everybody and the dead body would have started a commotion that would have continued after the lightning flash so eventually the Marvels would have noticed that something besides the wedding was going on so super hearing isn't really required. That was just really poor, unreasoned writting.
On a side note Black Adam is just about the luckiest guy in the DC universe.
TheCorpulent1
08-24-2006, 08:47 PM
Not loud enough to cover up a gun shot right next to your head, and nobody noticed at all. They all just kept on cheering the wedding. No body reacted to the dead body leaking blood all over the place either. The lightning could have covered up the sound from most people but not everybody and the dead body would have started a commotion that would have continued after the lightning flash so eventually the Marvels would have noticed that something besides the wedding was going on so super hearing isn't really required. That was just really poor, unreasoned writting.
On a side note Black Adam is just about the luckiest guy in the DC universe.
Actually, we don't know anything about the sci fi gun Montoya used. Maybe it's silent. Sure, people could've still seen the blast, but I figured most people were looking up at the ceremony.
MyPokerShirt
08-24-2006, 09:01 PM
Instead of there being multiple universes, there is only one universe that keeps getting replayed after burning out with subtle differences.
For example: Dawn of creation, Earth 1, End of the universe, dawn of creation, Earth 2, End of the universe
I love that theory, now I'm thinking the same might be true to real life. Man, you've just blown my mind... and I'm not even high.
wow...
Question about the Question: As a background character, doe he have an adult/serious/ Vertigo series somewhere? I think that'd really rock.
OA blaster
08-25-2006, 10:57 AM
question, why was booster gold funeral not shown this week in 52???
he died last week, i wanted to see if anyone would show up
The Question
08-25-2006, 11:00 AM
Question about the Question: As a background character, doe he have an adult/serious/ Vertigo series somewhere? I think that'd really rock.
He had a solo series in the late 80s. While it was not under the Virigo imprint, it was basically a Virtigo book in terms of content and sophistication.
sinewave
08-25-2006, 11:05 AM
I love that theory, now I'm thinking the same might be true to real life. Man, you've just blown my mind... and I'm not even high.
wow...
Question about the Question: As a background character, doe he have an adult/serious/ Vertigo series somewhere? I think that'd really rock.
not vertigo, but mainstream DC. he had a great series by denny o'neil back in the 80's/90's. it was really dark and gritty with moody art by denys cowan.
from wikipedia:
The Charlton characters were acquired by DC Comics after the former company went out of business in 1986. DC finally gave the Question his own acclaimed solo series in 1987, which was written by Dennis O'Neil and primarily drawn by Denys Cowan. The series was published for thirty-six issues and two annuals. In Question #1, the Question was defeated in personal combat first by the martial arts mercenary, Lady Shiva, beaten near to death by the hiring villain's thugs, shot in the head with a pellet gun, and thrown into the river to drown. Lady Shiva then rescued him for reasons of her own and gave him directions to meet Richard Dragon as soon as he recovered enough to get out of bed. Once there, Sage learned both martial arts, and eastern philosophy. When he returned to the city, he resumed his journalist and superhero careers with adventures that tended to illustrate various philosophic points. [1] To further illustrate those ideas, Dennis O'Neil had a reading recommendation in the letters page of each issue.
In the O'Neil ongoing series, Victor Sage is an investigative reporter for the news station KBEL in Hub City, who uses the identity of the Question to get the answers his civilian identity cannot. Unlike other vigilante superheroes, O'Neil's Question is primarily focused on the politics of his city, and rather than hunting down the perpetrators of petty theft, he tends to fight the corrupt government of Hub City. O'Neil's Hub City is noted as being "synonymous with venality, corruption, and violence", perhaps even outranking Gotham City as the most dismal city in the DC Universe
The Question #34 (January 1990); DC Comics. Art by Denys Cowan.
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The Question #34 (January 1990); DC Comics. Art by Denys Cowan.
For the majority of the series, he is covertly assisting the goodhearted Myra Fermin win the seat of Mayor. His interest in Myra extends beyond admiration, as the two shared a relationship before his near-death experience with Lady Shiva, and his training under Richard Dragon. Upon his return he discovered that she had married the corrupt drunkard who idolized former president Teddy Roosevelt, Mayor Wesley Fermin. Despite losing the election by one vote, Myra's competition was found dead as a result of what was called "the worst tornado in history." At her victory speech, her husband Wesley shot her for supporting what he believed to be Communist beliefs, putting her into a coma and sending Hub City further into chaos. Sage donned the guise of the Question, acting as the city’s only form of justice for a short while, before the Mayor woke from her condition. The gang warfare in the weeks following the election led Sage to Lady Shiva, first as a combatant, and then enlisting her help as an ally of sorts to get in a position to talk to the gang-leaders. As Myra adjusted into her role as Mayor of Hub City, she and Sage began to rekindle their relationship, although Myra told Sage that she would not act on her feelings until she left office. Despite their long-term friendship, she never connected that Sage and “the man without a face” were one and the same until the very end of his time at Hub City.
O’Neil’s Question is also very conflicted on how far to go in enforcing justice, often feeling tempted to kill. He resists this temptation as he realizes that part of his desire to go so far is just to see what it feels like to take a life. His relationship with his mentor, Aristotle Rodor, is one of many things that keep him from going over the edge and back towards the darkness he had shown in his youth on the streets of Hub City.
Eventually, during a massive hallucinogenic trip, his subconscious told him through his mother that he had to leave Hub City to ever be able to live happily. Around the same time Richard Dragon came to see Victor as he had sensed that he was on the verge of a major turning point in his life, and convinced him that living in Hub City was killing him. In an agreement with Richard, Lady Shiva arrives with a helicopter to usher The Question and Aristotle Rodor away, at which point she decides to stay in Hub City and embrace the chaos. He nearly convinces Myra to come with him and escape the chaos of the city, but she is unable to leave. She leaves her only daughter, Jackie, and wanders back to the city alone to meet her duties as Mayor and do her best to stand for what she believes in.
The Question Annual #2 retroactively altered the character's origin by revealing that Victor Sage was originally Charles Victor Szasz, an orphan who had a reputation as a troublemaker. Szasz prided himself in defiantly enduring the physical abuse of the Catholic orphanage where he was housed. He eventually managed to get into college where he studied journalism. However, his higher learning did not mellow his violent tendencies, such as when he beat up his pusher for giving him LSD which caused the frightening experience of doubting his own senses under its influence.
The 2005 Question mini-series suggested that the Question's long experience and practice with meditation had led him into shamanic trances, and later into a more permanent state of shamanic awareness, in which he was able to interpret coincidences and thus "talk to the city." In this state, he was also able to sense chi, or life force. He is now able to "walk in two worlds" for an increased awareness of his surroundings and of any disturbances in a city's natural order.
OA blaster
08-25-2006, 11:07 AM
interesting
The Question
08-25-2006, 11:11 AM
Great series. He also eventually returned to Hub, if memory serves, although he does travel around a bit more.
Whirlysplat
08-25-2006, 12:04 PM
btw, how can adam strange fly a ship when he can't even see?
"Use the Force Adam, feel your way"
Jedi training, nuff said
- Whirly
Whirlysplat
08-25-2006, 12:07 PM
He had a solo series in the late 80s. While it was not under the Virigo imprint, it was basically a Virtigo book in terms of content and sophistication.
Vertigo didn't exist then so it was under the old prestige DC imprint using the better paper as I remember, a bit like Moonshadow.
- Whirly
Pinball Wizard
08-25-2006, 02:08 PM
so anyone else think the question is harvey dent?
Mister J
08-25-2006, 02:09 PM
What? :confused:
Darthphere
08-25-2006, 02:15 PM
Can we stop all this "Charlie" garbage? I want Vic Sage and I want the fedora back *****es.:cmad:
The Question
08-25-2006, 02:33 PM
so anyone else think the question is harvey dent?
Why would they? :confused:
Can we stop all this "Charlie" garbage? I want Vic Sage and I want the fedora back *****es.:cmad:
Well, his full name is Charles Victor Szazs. He could simply be going by Charlie because he wants to fly under the radar.
Darthphere
08-25-2006, 02:35 PM
Well, his ***k name is Charles Victor Szazs. He could simply be going by Charlie because he wants to fly under the radar.
Yeah and? Vic Sage or nothing. And we need a ****ing fedora on him. NOW!:mad:
The Question
08-25-2006, 02:38 PM
Yeah and? Vic Sage or nothing.
Why? It makes sense that he'd go by Charlie or Charles when he doesn't wnat people to realize that he's Vic Sage, who is a relatively well known reporter.
And we need a ****ing fedora on him. NOW!:mad:
Actually, the way his costume works is that his belt releases a gas that turns whatever clothes he's wearing at the time blue. It also adheres his mask to his face. So, really, his costume is whatever he's wearing at the time plus his mask. While he does often wear a fedora, he's been known not to.
sinewave
08-25-2006, 02:39 PM
Yeah and? Vic Sage or nothing. And we need a ****ing fedora on him. NOW!:mad:
you're awful upity for someone who eats bugs all day.
Darthphere
08-25-2006, 02:40 PM
Stop making ****ing excuses. Theres a reason he had a fedora on the cover, because thats his most iconic look.
Darthphere
08-25-2006, 02:40 PM
you're awful upity for someone who eats bugs all day.
What does that have to do with anything?:confused:
sinewave
08-25-2006, 02:49 PM
What does that have to do with anything?:confused:
it doesn't. i just wanted to say it. it's a line from the simpsons, angsty.
The Question
08-25-2006, 03:29 PM
Stop making ****ing excuses. Theres a reason he had a fedora on the cover, because thats his most iconic look.
I know. He'll probably wear one eventually. I mean, we're only about 16 issues in.
deathshead2
08-25-2006, 03:32 PM
Im sure DC will give him back his hat in coat but only to make him look nice in his coffen after they kill him in 52.:(
The Question
08-25-2006, 03:34 PM
Don't talk like that! :mad:
Anyway, the one thing I'd more like to see is Tot. He's Vic's best friend. Should be seen at least once.
Mister J
08-25-2006, 03:40 PM
Tot? :confused:
Weenie Tot?
Tater Tot?
Polka Dot Tot?
Hot to Trot Tot?
I'm sorry.
Seriously though. Bring Booster back and kill him again. Leave Q alone!
The Question
08-25-2006, 03:44 PM
Tot? :confused:
Professor Aristotle Rodor. PHD in biochemistry, the man who created The Question's mask, and Vic's best friend/roommate.
TheCorpulent1
08-25-2006, 08:08 PM
Aw, Vic didn't make his mask himself? He is diminished in my eyes. :(
The Watchman
08-25-2006, 08:16 PM
Don't talk like that! :mad:
It's going to be weird in a few months when Renee becomes the question and eveyone starts thinking you're a girl and pming you with pictures of their penis, either a positive or a negative depending on your stance of penis. I guess you could just claim you're a huge Lesbo, I forgot where I'm going with this...
TheCorpulent1
08-25-2006, 08:27 PM
Apparently into at least two forms of depravity...
The Question
08-25-2006, 09:21 PM
Aw, Vic didn't make his mask himself? He is diminished in my eyes. :(
Sorry. It's an artificial skin that breathes like normal skin called Psuedoderm, invented by Rodor. Unfortunately, on certain types of wounds, it's poisonous. So, he scrapped the project. However, his partner decided to sell it to third world countries for a quick profit. Tit told Vic, and Vic used a peace of Psuedoderm as a makeshift mask so no one could identify him and have him arrested for the acts of breaking and entering and assault and battery he then commited. He then decided to make a habbit out of it.
It's going to be weird in a few months when Renee becomes the question and eveyone starts thinking you're a girl and pming you with pictures of their penis, either a positive or a negative depending on your stance of penis. I guess you could just claim you're a huge Lesbo, I forgot where I'm going with this...
This is one of those moments where I really wish we had "creeped out" smilies.
Green Lantern
08-25-2006, 09:29 PM
Sorry. It's an artificial skin that breathes like normal skin called Psuedoderm, invented by Rodor. Unfortunately, on certain types of wounds, it's poisonous. So, he scrapped the project. However, his partner decided to sell it to third world countries for a quick profit. Tit told Vic, and Vic used a peace of Psuedoderm as a makeshift mask so no one could identify him and have him arrested for the acts of breaking and entering and assault and battery he then commited. He then decided to make a habbit out of it.
This is one of those moments where I really wish we had "creeped out" smilies.:dry: < that one doesn't work for that? :o
The Watchman
08-25-2006, 09:30 PM
Sorry. It's an artificial skin that breathes like normal skin called Psuedoderm, invented by Rodor. Unfortunately, on certain types of wounds, it's poisonous. So, he scrapped the project. However, his partner decided to sell it to third world countries for a quick profit. Tit told Vic, and Vic used a peace of Psuedoderm as a makeshift mask so no one could identify him and have him arrested for the acts of breaking and entering and assault and battery he then commited. He then decided to make a habbit out of it.
This is one of those moments where I really wish we had "creeped out" smilies.
Usually people go with this.
.................................................. ..........................
The Question
08-25-2006, 09:32 PM
:dry: < that one doesn't work for that? :o
Didn't realize we had it. Let me try again.....
It's going to be weird in a few months when Renee becomes the question and eveyone starts thinking you're a girl and pming you with pictures of their penis, either a positive or a negative depending on your stance of penis. I guess you could just claim you're a huge Lesbo, I forgot where I'm going with this...
......................:dry:
yenaled
08-26-2006, 04:07 AM
It's fuuny; I was so excited about this comic. A comic staring Animal Man, Booster Gold, Question, Adam Strange, Ralph Dibny.
And now I'm terrified of it continuing incase they all end up dead.
Why must I love second-third stringers.
The Question
08-26-2006, 10:20 AM
I don't know. Sad thing is, this is why I'd never be able to work for the big two. They see second and third stringers as cannon fodder. I see the opposite. The Batman and Superman types, the ones who have had a ****load of stories, they're the ones who's deaths would be acceptable. They've had their run. The likes of Booster have yet to shine.
SpideyInATree
08-26-2006, 11:58 AM
I was thinking the same thing most were here. That The Question was merely stepping back and letting Renee solve it herself and stepping up and do what needed to be done. It's not the FIRST time he's done it in this series, people.
I thought the pacing was a bit off this week. I mean, I know that Renee/Question plot intermixed with the Black Adam plot but we could have had a little bit of an overview as to what was up with Booster Gold.
And at the end we just got Adam Strange, Starfox, and Animal Man blasting off that planet...and that was it...heh. Seemed rather pointless.
But I think some better news was that Lobo is going to be in the next issue. I was into Lobo during the 90's, of course. :O So, it will be good to see the character again and see him written well...even though he was always supposed to be a joke, heh.
yenaled
08-26-2006, 12:20 PM
Keith Giffen says that Grant Morrison has managed to "get" the character [Lobo] more in one page that Keith Giffen ever did during his solo series... and he invented the character.
So I'm looking forward to seeing Lobo.
TheCorpulent1
08-26-2006, 06:37 PM
Sorry. It's an artificial skin that breathes like normal skin called Psuedoderm, invented by Rodor. Unfortunately, on certain types of wounds, it's poisonous. So, he scrapped the project. However, his partner decided to sell it to third world countries for a quick profit. Tit told Vic, and Vic used a peace of Psuedoderm as a makeshift mask so no one could identify him and have him arrested for the acts of breaking and entering and assault and battery he then commited. He then decided to make a habbit out of it.
What kind of injuries? If Vic got cut on his cheek, would he die or something?
Whirlysplat
08-26-2006, 06:39 PM
I was thinking the same thing most were here. That The Question was merely stepping back and letting Renee solve it herself and stepping up and do what needed to be done. It's not the FIRST time he's done it in this series, people.
I thought the pacing was a bit off this week. I mean, I know that Renee/Question plot intermixed with the Black Adam plot but we could have had a little bit of an overview as to what was up with Booster Gold.
And at the end we just got Adam Strange, Starfox, and Animal Man blasting off that planet...and that was it...heh. Seemed rather pointless.
But I think some better news was that Lobo is going to be in the next issue. I was into Lobo during the 90's, of course. :O So, it will be good to see the character again and see him written well...even though he was always supposed to be a joke, heh.
He wan't a joke ariginally way back in Omega Men 3
- Whirly
TheCorpulent1
08-26-2006, 06:43 PM
I thought he was always intended as a Wolverine in-joke.
Whirlysplat
08-26-2006, 06:50 PM
I thought he was always intended as a Wolverine in-joke.
No, in the early days he looked and acted very differently, I have his very first appearances although this pic is taken from the web.
http://www.lobobrasil.com.br/revistas/estadosunidos_outras/omegamen_03.jpg
his Wolverine type spoof was a retconn.
- Whirly
TheCorpulent1
08-26-2006, 06:53 PM
Wow, that's an interesting costume...
Whirlysplat
08-26-2006, 06:55 PM
Wow, that's an interesting costume...
Yup Lobos bronze age "clown" outfit as it's known.
- Whirly
TheCorpulent1
08-26-2006, 06:56 PM
I prefer the leather. It says "Main Man" better than an orange and purple trapeze outfit, I think. That may just be me, though. ;)
Whirlysplat
08-26-2006, 07:00 PM
I prefer the leather. It says "Main Man" better than an orange and purple trapeze outfit, I think. That may just be me, though. ;)
Nope I agree, although this Lobo was probably cooler in some respects, he was very calculating. Pick up the trade "Lobos greatest hits" for some of his best moments.
- Whirly
The Question
08-26-2006, 07:02 PM
What kind of injuries? If Vic got cut on his cheek, would he die or something?
No. Just wounds that are already infected.
TheCorpulent1
08-26-2006, 07:05 PM
No. Just wounds that are already infected.
So the Question's arch-nemesis would be sepsis?
The Question
08-26-2006, 07:07 PM
Yes, I suppose it just might.
TheCorpulent1
08-26-2006, 07:08 PM
He and the Atom should team up. :up:
Mister J
08-26-2006, 07:08 PM
So the Question's arch-nemesis would be sepsis?
That's gonna piss off The Answer and Exclaimation Point Man.
I'm sorry. :o
TheCorpulent1
08-26-2006, 07:10 PM
If the Answer turned into a microorganism, he would totally be the Question's ultimate arch-nemesis.
regwec
08-29-2006, 11:41 AM
On a side note Black Adam is just about the luckiest guy in the DC universe.
Yes. Isis is currently the most attractive female in comics.
Other reflections: if Booster's death is what it seems, then his whole character arc throughout Infinate Crisis and 52 was a massive waste of pages.
sinewave
08-29-2006, 11:44 AM
Yes. Isis is currently the most attractive female in comics.
you'd think so, until you find out she's got a raging case of crotch rot. :(
regwec
08-29-2006, 11:47 AM
I missed that issue.
Darthphere
08-29-2006, 11:47 AM
My vote was for Sue Dibny wicker doll.
CanaryFan
08-29-2006, 11:58 AM
you'd think so, until you find out she's got a raging case of crotch rot. :(
LIAR!!!
Purple Man
08-29-2006, 12:02 PM
She has termites where!?
sinewave
08-29-2006, 01:21 PM
I missed that issue.
It was a doozie.
SpideyInATree
08-29-2006, 03:58 PM
Other reflections: if Booster's death is what it seems, then his whole character arc throughout Infinate Crisis and 52 was a massive waste of pages.
I highly doubt that the story of Booster Gold is over, it's probably just the beginning.
OA blaster
08-29-2006, 05:13 PM
I highly doubt that the story of Booster Gold is over, it's probably just the beginning.
maybe sceets will build a robot body in booster gold image and try to keep his memory of his friend alive
Mister J
08-30-2006, 10:39 PM
Lobo got a peek at Starfire's rack.
Sweet. :cool: :up:
Elisha Cuthbert
08-30-2006, 10:47 PM
I think what we are all not thinking about here is that Booster Gold is a time traveler. And he found that gigantic bulletin board in RIP Hunter's room about time being broken. Think about that for a second.
Colossal Spoons
08-31-2006, 11:22 AM
Can I pick and choose which 52 books I wanan pick up and still get a coherant story? There are only a few characters I like who have 52s center around them.
Mister J
08-31-2006, 12:14 PM
Yes. If you had a listing of what characters were involved in each issue ahead of time.
yenaled
08-31-2006, 12:39 PM
Except I expect a lot of the stories to interwine, and you might as well pick up all of them because you may discover you love something that you would have never got exposed too.
Ultimate_Superman
08-31-2006, 01:05 PM
Lobo got a peek at Starfire's rack.
Sweet. :cool: :up:He didn't get a peek he just ripped her shirt off.
Mister J
08-31-2006, 01:09 PM
And when that top came off, the Czarnian got to see some boobage. She covered up, but Kory's not that quick as to prevent the goods from being beholden.
Ultimate_Superman
08-31-2006, 01:23 PM
Hell it was either sex or money. Me I would have taken the sex.
Mister J
08-31-2006, 01:25 PM
That Starfire is a hell of a negotiator.
celldog
09-01-2006, 02:33 PM
He didn't get a peek he just ripped her shirt off.
What shirt?? :rolleyes: She wears strategically placed straps.:eek:
Colossal Spoons
09-01-2006, 02:36 PM
Yes. If you had a listing of what characters were involved in each issue ahead of time.
Yeah, I was just worried about having ALL the stories come together at the end like yenaled said and me only having 5% of the books.
Except I expect a lot of the stories to interwine, and you might as well pick up all of them because you may discover you love something that you would have never got exposed too.
Very true. This could be an awesome opportunity for me to get introduced to stuff I'd normally pass on or just miss alltogether. But damn, that's like $60 just to get caught up :(:mad:
PWN3R
09-01-2006, 02:41 PM
Its weird, when I first got into 52, around week 11, I bought all the issues at once, added it to my list, thought it was gonna be huge.
Dont get me wrong, it has been solid reads week after week. But am I the only one starting to think that 52 weeks isn't big enough?
Some weeks the story doesn't go anywhere, or like a story will disappear for weeks, like Animal Man's story.
Doc Destruction
09-01-2006, 02:44 PM
Well, they've stated that the storylines may continue on past 52.
celldog
09-01-2006, 02:45 PM
I just read the recent 52.
I don't know if someone already talked about this.
But.....do any of you see a possible hook-up between Adan Strange and starfire?? This "tension" between them that Buddy senses....... could it be "sexual" attraction. I mean how many times have we seen this scenario?? Moonlighting. Jewel of the Nile. Tough guy....emotional beautiful woman.....desperate situation.....
Isn't this how GL (John Stewart) & Hawkgirl started out on the cartoon?? Remember how they bickered all the time only to find out it was because they had the hots for each other??? :p
PWN3R
09-01-2006, 02:46 PM
Dont get me wrong though, I'm enjoying it a lot. Its just some weeks there is no plot movement, and with only 52 issues and still more plots to be introduced, it cant afford a missed week.
Mister J
09-01-2006, 02:48 PM
I don't how about all of the stories coming together, but there will definitely be some crossover. The Question/Montoya arc just began a crossover with the Black Adam arc. I still think it's possible to get most of what's going on in that scenario, especially if you're just interested in certain characters. Admittedly, I'm not interested in some of these characters, but I like having all the issues just in case I surprise myself.
Darthphere
09-01-2006, 02:50 PM
This is ****ing saddening.
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/Week17/5218_11.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/Week17/5218_12.jpg
Colossal Spoons
09-01-2006, 02:52 PM
I don't how about all of the stories coming together, but there will definitely be some crossover. The Question/Montoya arc just began a crossover with the Black Adam arc. I still think it's possible to get most of what's going on in that scenario, especially if you're just interested in certain characters. Admittedly, I'm not interested in some of these characters, but I like having all the issues just in case I surprise myself.
I'm checkin Ebay now.
I can get 1-15 from Australia for $8.99 or 1-12 from California for $5.99 (shipping included for both)
Hmm.
Doc Destruction
09-01-2006, 03:08 PM
Read those preview pages - silly but poignant, I like the writing style.
I still say that Booster is Supernova.
sinewave
09-01-2006, 03:57 PM
Who were to 8th rate loser heroes acting as pall bearers?
sinewave
09-01-2006, 04:01 PM
Read those preview pages - silly but poignant, I like the writing style.
I still say that Booster is Supernova.
too soon!!! :mad:
drastic_quench
09-01-2006, 05:18 PM
Who were to 8th rate loser heroes acting as pall bearers?
the odd one in the suit is... Oddman!
Colossal Spoons
09-01-2006, 05:32 PM
too soon!!! :mad:
:mad:
Archangel
09-01-2006, 05:53 PM
Who were to 8th rate loser heroes acting as pall bearers?
The guy in the red is Beefeater.
SpideyInATree
09-02-2006, 01:48 PM
I really liked this week's issue. A little bit more of a glimpse as to what Luthor has planned for HIS "JLA".
And freakin' Lobo, man! That was awesome! Heh.
Hopefully we'll be getting a little bit more of Lobo in the coming weeks. And I'm thinking Adam Strange and Starfire should just get it on and get that out of the way. Someone needs to be getting some in this book.
Darthphere
09-02-2006, 01:49 PM
I love reading blank word balloons.
TheCorpulent1
09-02-2006, 03:23 PM
It's so much easier than reading balloons with those pesky words in them.
Lobo was totally badass, though. Adam Strange's immediate soiling of his pants upon hearing the slightest mention of Lobo was good, too. :)
Bullseye
09-02-2006, 08:40 PM
I'm enjoying 52 quite a bit and I think 52 has been on of DC's better idea's as of late. I also like how 52 involves the many characters of the DCU.
trustyside-kick
09-03-2006, 05:22 AM
I was happy to see them talk about the Lex arc again but it was so damn short, wtf?
The whole Lobo thing is ok...the Adam Strange/Animal Man/Starfire arc never appealed to me before and still hasn't really.
I wish they show more on Supernova...really curious as to who he is still.
Made sense to take a break from the Black Adam thing or the Q and Montoya arc since they have focused on that one so much.
SpideyInATree
09-03-2006, 08:25 AM
I wish they show more on Supernova...really curious as to who he is still.
We won't be finding out who Supernova is until near the end of the series.
Super_Child
09-03-2006, 11:38 AM
I should get my comics in the post tomorow, :o with a couple of the recent 52 issues included.
OA blaster
09-03-2006, 12:26 PM
We won't be finding out who Supernova is until near the end of the series.
i doubt they will keep the idenity of supernova till the end of the series
SpideyInATree
09-03-2006, 02:25 PM
i doubt they will keep the idenity of supernova till the end of the series
In the latest Wizard they had an article on 52 and the four writers were discussing the identity of Supernova, which would be revealed near the closing of the series.
Shawkur
09-03-2006, 06:02 PM
It seems like nothing will be revealed until the end of the series. There really hasnt been a surprise yet.
trustyside-kick
09-03-2006, 08:51 PM
By the way...when that one guy made a theory thinking Supernova is Booster Gold..one of his reasons always bothered me. He was saying "he even called him Michael so appearently he knows him. Well I re-read that issue and Supernova never says that...both times you see Michael in dialogue is Skeets...you can tell by reading it and you can tell from the font since Skeets has different font being a robot.
Just wanted to say that cause it bothered me. :O
Anubis
09-03-2006, 10:28 PM
Yeah, that was already cleared up.
OA blaster
09-04-2006, 05:27 AM
In the latest Wizard they had an article on 52 and the four writers were discussing the identity of Supernova, which would be revealed near the closing of the series.
bloody hell only 35 more to go till we find the booster clone
SpideyInATree
09-04-2006, 04:10 PM
They didn't say it was going to be the final issue or anything. In the interview they were plotting the final 16 issues of the series so it'll probably be within that time frame.
deathshead2
09-04-2006, 04:14 PM
Alot of the writers are talking about how the characters in 52 that lived will be changed in some way. In that small preview we had form last weeks 52 for this weeks I think Ralph might become the new dr.fate, and that supernova is boostergold.And the question will die and be replaced with Montoya.:( My ideas are strange I know.
marcofthebeast
09-04-2006, 04:36 PM
Ralph Dibney as the new Dr. Fate :up: Detective Fate :up:
Keyser Soze
09-04-2006, 06:02 PM
Hey everyone. I've just joined the DC RPG as Black Adam, and so want to do a little research on the character. I'll be picking up the TPB of JSA: Black Reign. But I was wondering what you thought the best Black Adam issues of were. I was thinking of picking up issues 12 and 13. Any others you think would be good?
The Question
09-04-2006, 06:26 PM
Oh, everything from JSA with him is gold. Gives a very good idea of his character. He's not really a villain, simply a hero of a vastly more barbaric time.
OA blaster
09-05-2006, 05:04 AM
also pick up villians united
Phoney Bone
09-05-2006, 06:49 PM
http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload9/eggfu.jpg
Apparantly for the sketchbook (http://www.dccomics.com/sites/52/?action=sketchbook&w=6&p=10) on the 52 website this panel in issue 6 the mysterious guy was labled as Egg Fu (It's now been changed to "Gotcha").
If you don't know him;
Egg Fu is a giant Communist egg. He was created by Chinese sleeper agents for Darkseid. He was secretly transporting people to Apokolips. In his first public appearance, he attempted to kill Wonder Woman but was foiled. He later tried to reprogram the Metal Men to say 'Down With America' at a Pro-American Rally, but was stopped. It was recently revealed that Jonni D.C., Continuity Cop, fried him, so that he would not ruin her clean continuity.
[Note: This text refers to the pre-Crisis version of this character.]
http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/silverage/EggFu-WW157.JPG
I think Morrisson may have had an hand in this :D
I think talking to him would scare the **** outta me. No way I could look at him.
trustyside-kick
09-05-2006, 06:54 PM
also pick up villians united
I've read that...he didn't really do much though really...I'll have to recheck my copy.
Knives122
09-05-2006, 07:27 PM
Who the **** is egg fu? Seriously we don't need him in 52. Not one bit.
Keyser Soze
09-05-2006, 07:37 PM
Egg Fu could possibly be the most surreal supervillain ever.
The Question
09-05-2006, 07:42 PM
Egg Fu could possibly be the most surreal supervillain ever.
Which is why it was probably Morrison's idea to use him.
Phoney Bone
09-05-2006, 08:04 PM
So yeah, after being broke for over six months, I found a good sized chunk of money coming in, so I went and bought 52 1-17, minus Issue 2, which my shop was out of.
It's....Ok. I mean, I like it. A lot of stuff is really cool in it, and like all my favorite characters are the main ones.
I suppose my major problem with it is somethings seem stilted and forced. With this supergroup of writers, I would expect less of such awkward dialogue. But hey, I comes out every week, so I'm letting them off easy on that, I mean, they have time to finetuen stuff on their other books.
The most boring storyline to me is the Question/Renee story, and it seems to take up most of the book so far. Which sucks, because the Question acts too Un-Question like. He's and awesome character, and he's spending WAAAYY too much time with his face. And Renee just gets on my nerves. And Batwoman I don't like.
Steel's story seems to be going by too quickly. Looking back, I realized I didn't pick up on somethings, but everythings like BAM-BAM-BAM. All these weird things are happening and everyone's sorta taking it in stride.
Black Adam is a badass. That's all there is to it. He should overthrow Wolverine.
Lost in Space is pretty cool, but also seems to be going too fast for me to enjoy. At least it has cool characters.
I like the idea of the Cult of Connor, but it's another something that seems a bit forced. Though I'm glad it seems Ralph will be getting up and doing SOMETHING, based on previews. Didn't want him to sit under that bridge for the rest of the series.
Booster and Supernova. Pretty much the best story. I love Booster, and I love a good mystery. Can't wait to find out who Supernova is. I still think the way Booster was acting was a bit of backtrackking with the character, but I can accept it was his form of greiving. Oh, and who doesn't love Skeets??
I read his death issue, and just continued reading. I didn't dwell on it too much. I was like, he'll come back. But in my incredible lameness, today I was daydreaming in class, and I started to feel REAL sad about Booster's death. i mean REEEEAAAALLL sad. I loved this guy. I could have read infinite stories about him. And it sorta made me depressed. I hope he returns in glory. His death probably got me more than anyone elses recently, real or fictional.
I am looking foward to the next batch though, all that has happened sofar IS only set-up, I guarantee. Oh, and here's to seeing Perfect 10 or whatever those Asian guys were called. There was a lot of Hype about them and then they were in one issue basically.
The Question
09-05-2006, 09:44 PM
The most boring storyline to me is the Question/Renee story, and it seems to take up most of the book so far. Which sucks, because the Question acts too Un-Question like. He's and awesome character, and he's spending WAAAYY too much time with his face.
How is he acting un-Question like? He seems pretty much the same to me.
trustyside-kick
09-05-2006, 09:58 PM
Well now the Question/Renee Story arc and the Black Adam one are pretty much fused...so I don't see why he said it is boring him...even though before they went to Black Adam's country I found the story very interesting; wish we saw more of Batwoman though.
Phoney Bone
09-06-2006, 06:21 AM
How is he acting un-Question like? He seems pretty much the same to me.
Just doesn't seem as cool and crazy as he usually is. And as I said before, I hate seeing him with a real face.
OA blaster
09-06-2006, 06:55 AM
Just doesn't seem as cool and crazy as he usually is. And as I said before, I hate seeing him with a real face.
how do we know its his real face
The Question
09-06-2006, 10:24 AM
Just doesn't seem as cool and crazy as he usually is.
Again, he seems about the same to me. Of course, it would hbelp if he did his share of the narrating.
And as I said before, I hate seeing him with a real face.
He's never worn his mask all the time.
how do we know its his real face
It is. Although, I think he's dying his hair.
Darthphere
09-06-2006, 12:43 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/Week19/52-Cv19-ds.jpg
Bullseye
09-06-2006, 12:46 PM
The backup origin stories are a nice addition to 52. Backup origin stories is the feature I most like about the book.
Darthphere
09-06-2006, 12:51 PM
updated solicitation infromation says is: "What if I told you I could — using Booster's DNA— bioengineer a superhero identity for you?"
OA blaster
09-06-2006, 01:03 PM
updated solicitation infromation says is: "What if I told you I could — using Booster's DNA— bioengineer a superhero identity for you?"
i had a werid feeling Skeets would become the new booster Gold
Fledermaus
09-06-2006, 01:47 PM
that doesn't make any damn sense.
Assassin
09-06-2006, 05:29 PM
updated solicitation infromation says is: "What if I told you I could — using Booster's DNA— bioengineer a superhero identity for you?"
you're like the biggest newsarama whore ever
yenaled
09-06-2006, 06:06 PM
I'm sure that Booster is:
Daniel Carter.
GoldenAgeHero
09-07-2006, 07:51 AM
daniel carter?
GoldenAgeHero
09-07-2006, 07:52 AM
i had a werid feeling Skeets would become the new booster Gold
that'll be kinda cool i guess..............actually that'll be a lil too weird.
The Leaguer
09-07-2006, 08:51 AM
I'm sure that Booster is:
Daniel Carter.
daniel carter?
Hahahahahahahaha!
GoldenAgeHero
09-07-2006, 11:44 AM
ahhh i get it now, since i did'nt read the comic yet, so your laughter is'nt really called for.
anyways just read issue 18 of 52, boy the writers hinting clues left and right about this whole 52 mystery. we finally see what happened after montoya killed that terrorist chick and it was great seeing black adam as his badass self(grabbing montoya by the neck and choking her was great to see)....i dont condone abuse towards women, but seeing adam not taking anyone's crap despite gender was kinda cool. not only was this probably the most fun issue of the rest but the whole stint with ralph dibney was freaking hilarious!!! poor ralph he really is going off the deep end, but maybe the fate's helmet was talking to him and the others could'nt sense it?(btw so i take it ralph ain't going to bother with that doll anymore?) and i agree daniel carter could be a reincarnated version of booster, where do you guys think he came from tho? the new earth that didio mentioned?
btw, am i the only that got the mystery in space and the weird reference on pg 10? i guess the mstery is 52 is as big as i thought.
10/10 for me.
Fledermaus
09-07-2006, 12:32 PM
I personally don't care, but you're going to get so much s**t for not using spoilers. It's going to be funny as hell.
Darthphere
09-07-2006, 12:33 PM
you're like the biggest newsarama whore ever
Yeah and? I go to CBR too. Newsarama tends to have the info first.:o
GoldenAgeHero
09-07-2006, 01:29 PM
edit:nvm.
Darthphere
09-07-2006, 01:31 PM
we finally see what happened after montoya killed that terrorist chick and it was great seeing black adam as his badass self(grabbing montoya by the neck and choking her was great to see)....i dont condone abuse towards women, but seeing adam not taking anyone's crap despite gender was kinda cool.
Yeah *****, get in the kitchen! :whatever:
GoldenAgeHero
09-07-2006, 01:36 PM
what?! i just thought it was badass. he makes his own rules anyway, so i doubt he'll go to jail for it.heh
Darthphere
09-07-2006, 01:38 PM
So he should go around choking chicks all the time because he can. Hes the ultimate badass. Yeah, choke that *****.
GoldenAgeHero
09-07-2006, 01:46 PM
So he should go around choking chicks all the time because he can. Hes the ultimate badass. Yeah, choke that *****.
dude its a comic. its not like its condoning anything, if you feel it does then take it up with the writers and didio. while you're at it take it up with the gaming industry too. matter of fact, write to your state representative.
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