The Official '52' Thread [Archive] - Page 9

Colossal Spoons

10-17-2006, 06:04 PM

I'm officially caught up and can regularly participate in this thread :up:

I'm quite excited about Osiris' debut as I can't get enough of the Marvel Family(excluding Uncle Dudley).

Also, I'd like to see some pointless Montoya lesbian action every 3rd issue just because. That is all.

That looks cool, but all of this Lex stuff keeps filling me with dread because I know that, however awesome he is in 52, by the time OYL hits he'll be a retard thanks to "Up, Up, and Away." :(

Oh, what's going on now in Supes/Lex's drama that leads you to believe that?

TheCorpulent1

10-18-2006, 08:30 AM

"Up, Up, and Away" basically established comic-Lex as synonymous with movie-Lex. It's sad, really.

WompuM

10-18-2006, 08:34 AM

Thats cause Geoff is gay for hollywood.

TheCorpulent1

10-18-2006, 08:52 AM

He, like, totally sold out. :o

Assassin

10-18-2006, 09:02 AM

I still believe.

SouLeSS

10-18-2006, 11:15 AM

Man, Skeets is going crazy.

Kitsune

10-18-2006, 11:48 AM

Man, Skeets is going crazy.
All work and no beer makes Skeets something something.

Doc Destruction

10-18-2006, 12:52 PM

Not crazy, VERY sane. There's someone he's trying to flush out. I bet it's Supernova.

sethcohen

10-18-2006, 02:36 PM

spoilers?

Colossal Spoons

10-18-2006, 02:58 PM

Not crazy, VERY sane. There's someone he's trying to flush out. I bet it's Supernova.

Interesting. Locking Booster's descendant in that room would only interest somebody who had connections to Booster.

Mister J

10-18-2006, 07:53 PM

Not crazy, VERY sane. There's someone he's trying to flush out. I bet it's Supernova. That's my guess since Booster's dumb ass bit the big one tying to out-do 'Nova. I expected him to show until I realized that would have been too much progression for one week. :csad:

Why the hell are the characters on the next week's preview page wearing that Ambush Bug antenna thing on their faces?

Line of the Week: Sorry Mr. Arrow. No, I don't know what "Fifty-Two" is either.
You and me both, brother. :ninja:

Fledermaus

10-18-2006, 08:00 PM

Was it just me or was there 4th wall a-breaking going on in this issue?

Mister J

10-18-2006, 08:04 PM

Yeah, notably from your boy...err, umm bug, the Ambush Bug. :up:

In other news, I'm tired of Isis dragging Black Adam around by his short hairs. I want unabridged and unmitigated violence from BA, not this 'this is no longer the way' crap. The General basically called Adam pussy-whipped. :down

I want "no more silly faces" Adam back. :csad:

...this ***** has to go. :cmad:

Fledermaus

10-18-2006, 08:06 PM

And isn't Osiris a whiney little boy-god? "But Black Adam, I wannna have fun, wahhhhh." BA should have snapped his arms like twigs.

yenaled

10-18-2006, 08:07 PM

Ambush is probably the only DC character that knows he is a comic book character.

Animal Man doesn't believe it :(

Purple Man

10-18-2006, 08:08 PM

Who would expect such things to come from Ambush Bug?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/snarkfive/2967_4_1.jpg

Mister J

10-18-2006, 08:08 PM

And isn't Osiris a whiney little boy-god? "But Black Adam, I wannna have fun, wahhhhh." BA should have snapped his arms like twigs.
He's pretty mouthy for someone who was getting his ass kicked and was at death's door last week.

Fledermaus

10-18-2006, 08:31 PM

Yeah i guess the powers of the gods include b**chiness.

SouLeSS

10-18-2006, 08:54 PM

No, thats the power of women.

yenaled

10-18-2006, 09:10 PM

The power of love is a curious thing.

Mister J

10-18-2006, 09:16 PM

The 'power of poontang' is more like it.

Fledermaus

10-18-2006, 09:48 PM

Was Huey Lewis just here? Has he heard the news? HE SUCKS!

And Black Adam may have the dubious honor of being the only pussy-whipped superhero on the planet. Maybe him and Scott Free.

Mister J

10-18-2006, 09:52 PM

Scott's case is somewhat excusable. Barda could kick his ass. Black Adam has no such out.

WompuM

10-19-2006, 10:59 AM

What's Superman exucse then?

sethcohen

10-19-2006, 11:07 AM

Scott's case is somewhat excusable. Barda could kick his ass. Black Adam has no such out.
well... the power of shazam could also vastly improve a female's vajayjay... maybe a shazam powered vajayjay is enough to bend his will as the experience of getting a piece may be far superior to regular poonani... id imagine the only whowho to rival a shazam powered whoha would be WW's

vajayjay!

sinewave

10-19-2006, 11:23 AM

i loved ambush bug in this issue. great stuff.

Eros

10-19-2006, 12:09 PM

52 reasons to pick up this overly convoulted romp into the lives of B and C string heroes.

Mister J

10-19-2006, 12:43 PM

What's Superman exucse then? Clark's a good boy, raised humbly on the farm. He's always been a kind, loyal, sweet-natured, level-headed guy; before and after the experience of getting in Lois' pants. No real personality change in lieu of the 'tang.

Black Adam on the other hand was just wickedly badass, beating the holy hell out of anybody when he felt like it. Even when he had his runs of 'good behavior', it was still on his terms. Look at him towards the end of Infinite Crisis and pre-Isis 52; laying the smack down. Then comes Adrianna screaming "I am Isis!" and now we have this touchy-feely Adam, who gets that good ol' Black Adam hellraising reigned in and might as well go around singing folk tales. Isis has whipped it on him and it's not like BA has any of his boys who can come through, drag him to the local Kahndaqian nudie bar, have a few beers and tell him he's screwing up. It's all so sad. You, Teth-Adam/Khem-Adam/Mighty Adam/Theo Adam/whatever, sicken me. :o

That's gotta be some Grade A vajayjay, though. I never get any superpowered stuff. This sucks.

batnkevlar

10-19-2006, 12:55 PM

Dude, compare SHAZAMwhacking it to SHAZAMsex... SHAZAMsex takes the win....

Mister J

10-19-2006, 12:58 PM

Black Adam could have a harem if he wanted. Montoya wasn't in the kingdom for more than a day and she found some *bow chicka bow bow* like it was advertised in the paper. Adam's slacking.

sethcohen

10-19-2006, 01:28 PM

Khandaq: Land of P-whipped Super-Deities and Loose Woman far as the eye can see!

Fledermaus

10-19-2006, 02:05 PM

I'm calling my travel agent.

sethcohen

10-19-2006, 02:26 PM

lets see if we can save money by booking a group trip?

WompuM

10-19-2006, 03:59 PM

giggidy giggidy

Colossal Spoons

10-19-2006, 04:09 PM

The chick that Montoya was in bed with looked so ashamed when Black Adam came crashing through the wall like the freakin Kool-Aid man. :D

TheCorpulent1

10-19-2006, 04:11 PM

Imagine G. Dubya crashing in on you in bed with your flavor-of-the-night. :p

Colossal Spoons

10-19-2006, 04:12 PM

I can hear him giggling now...

sinewave

10-19-2006, 04:25 PM

[g-dub]heh-heh-heh...[g-dub]

http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/stewart_merkel_350.jpg

BrianWilly

10-19-2006, 04:32 PM

Ahhh, I love this thread.

I predict that Osiris is going to kill everyone by the end of this.

WompuM

10-19-2006, 04:45 PM

The chick that Montoya was in bed with looked so ashamed when Black Adam came crashing through the wall like the freakin Kool-Aid man. :D

Spoons, just so you know, when I first read this post, I was listening to a presentation in business class and literally laughed out loud. And I don't have a quiet laugh. (Actually voted Best Laugh Class of '06) The teacher was pissed.

So anyway, thanks.

sinewave

10-19-2006, 04:47 PM

The chick that Montoya was in bed with looked so ashamed when Black Adam came crashing through the wall like the freakin Kool-Aid man. :D

i hope after all this 52 bidness is over with we get a spinoff series that documents all of montoya's drunken booty calls over the last year. that would be worth $3.00 a week for me.

TheCorpulent1

10-19-2006, 04:49 PM

It'd be worth $3 a week for me only if it's from the least censored part of Vertigo. :up:

sinewave

10-19-2006, 04:52 PM

It'd be worth $3 a week for me only if it's from the least censored part of Vertigo. :up:

why not? if alan moore can document the sexual escapades of children's literary characters then there should definitely be a place for drunken, washed-up, ex-cop, lesbian, **** adventures (that's make a catchy title, too!). and it would definitely be better in an uncensored format.

Fledermaus

10-19-2006, 06:24 PM

New on the CW, Montoya: Lesiban Explorer Hawaii 5-Ho. Recommended for a Mature Audience!

kudin36

10-20-2006, 10:10 AM

why in the world they kill Super-Chief...when I started to like himm...mannnnnn 52 like to kill cool characters like Booster Gold

Fledermaus

10-20-2006, 11:17 AM

IMO, since they showed Super-Chief in the afterlife, he'll probably be back.

sinewave

10-20-2006, 11:21 AM

why did they give superchief's pendant/power source to ralph dibny?

Darthphere

10-20-2006, 12:16 PM

Because he needs it to bring back Sue Dibny as Super Chief III.

sinewave

10-20-2006, 12:55 PM

Because he needs it to bring back Sue Dibny as Super Chief III.

I'd prefer it if she came back as Wicker Woman.

Tropico

10-20-2006, 03:57 PM

why did they give superchief's pendant/power source to ralph dibny?

I didn't take it as if he was giving it to him but rather giving him a good look at the amulet and what happens. If he IS giving it to him I wouldn't be surprised if it was to make the new Dr.Fate a multi-pantheonic magician; kinda like Hector's "balance" magic.

SpideyInATree

10-21-2006, 04:03 PM

Another interesting week in 52. The new Justice League thing sort of came out of nowhere, good to see Super Chief got to be a member of the League before meeting an untimely demise. :o

Amubush Bug was freakin' hilarious, and he also was spouting "Fifty-Two!". :wow:

But it'll be very interesting who Atom Smasher chooses to join him in the hunt of Black Adam.

Darthphere

10-21-2006, 04:10 PM

Ambush Bug was annoying.

cerealkiller182

10-21-2006, 04:12 PM

Ambush Bug was annoying.

I agree. This should be a sign to Marvel to never over do Deadpool because that is what they'll have.

TheCorpulent1

10-22-2006, 09:45 AM

Ambush Bug was annoying.
Super Chief was more annoying. I cheered when he died. :up:

Fledermaus

10-22-2006, 10:20 AM

Racist.

Kitsune

10-22-2006, 11:12 AM

Is it just me, or does DC seem to love killing off obscure characters?

TheCorpulent1

10-22-2006, 12:30 PM

In Super Chief's case, I'm pretty sure this incarnation, at least, was created solely to be killed.
Racist.
So what, are you prejudiced against racists or something? Ugh, bigot. :whatever:

WompuM

10-22-2006, 04:59 PM

Ambush Bug was annoying.

The Leaguer

10-22-2006, 05:17 PM

Ambush Bug kicked ass.

SouLeSS

10-22-2006, 05:23 PM

Ambush Bug was annoying.

The Leaguer

10-22-2006, 05:24 PM

You're annoying and wrong.

Darthphere

10-22-2006, 09:34 PM

No, actually hes correct. Ambush Bug was annoying, and im a fan of Ambush Bug.

The Leaguer

10-23-2006, 07:50 AM

You're wrong, too. Everyone is wrong.

Kitsune

10-23-2006, 09:12 AM

I was rereading the first five issue online, and I got to thinking. We know he's turned evil. but the question is "When did it happen?" This is a replacement Skeets, because the original was encorperated into the new suit of Armor that Ted Cord made for him So was this version evil to begin with, or did it happen when his system crashed and Will Magnus rebuilds him? I'm suspecting the later. Although it could have something to do with Checkmate dismanteling Skeets.
Adding an image I found online. How to tell the difference between Skeets and evil Skeets
http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/5219/evilskeets.jpg

yenaled

10-23-2006, 11:28 AM

Well this is Skeets v.2, not the same as the original one.

sinewave

10-23-2006, 11:52 AM

No, actually hes correct. Ambush Bug was annoying, and im a fan of Ambush Bug.

what did you find annoying about him? he seemed pretty funny to me.

Darthphere

10-23-2006, 12:08 PM

what did you find annoying about him? he seemed pretty funny to me.

Everything. Ok, we get it, breaking the 4th wall, lawl, they overdid it, to the max.

Doc Destruction

10-23-2006, 12:39 PM

Ambush Bug is amazing. Any doubters have no taste.

Darthphere

10-23-2006, 12:41 PM

Ambush Bug is amazing. Any doubters have no taste.

Or an incredible amount of it. Like i said, I like Ambush Bug, they just overdid it in this issue.

sinewave

10-23-2006, 01:54 PM

Everything. Ok, we get it, breaking the 4th wall, lawl, they overdid it, to the max.

there were one or two references to "52". that's hardly to the max. so, he was annoying, it was the writing.

sinewave

10-23-2006, 01:55 PM

it might not even be "breaking the 4th wall". maybe "52" has nothing to do with the title of the book within the dcu.

Darthphere

10-23-2006, 01:57 PM

there were one or two references to "52". that's hardly to the max. so, he was annoying, it was the writing.

:huh: Obviously, if you write him to be annoying, he would be annoying.

Darthphere

10-23-2006, 01:58 PM

it might not even be "breaking the 4th wall". maybe "52" has nothing to do with the title of the book within the dcu.

And the scene where Firestorm is talking to GA and hes telling the writers and editors what to do?

sinewave

10-23-2006, 03:13 PM

And the scene where Firestorm is talking to GA and hes telling the writers and editors what to do?

i'll have to go back and re-read that part. that wasn't an ambush bug line, though. the characer himself was pretty funny.

Darthphere

10-23-2006, 03:13 PM

If funny means annoying I agree.

I win, moving on.

sinewave

10-23-2006, 03:24 PM

If funny means annoying I agree.

I win, moving on.

welp, aren't we angsty today?

Darthphere

10-23-2006, 03:26 PM

I got more angst than an episode of The OC.

Kitsune

10-23-2006, 03:36 PM

I hear they're bringing back Cheaks the Toy Wonder as a villian in 52

sinewave

10-23-2006, 03:52 PM

I got more angst than an episode of The OC.

I like "political-thread-Darthphere" more than I like "comic-thread-Darthphere". :csad:

sinewave

10-23-2006, 03:53 PM

I hear they're bringing back Cheaks the Toy Wonder as a villian in 52

is that as dirty as it sounds?

Darthphere

10-23-2006, 03:54 PM

I like "political-thread-Darthphere" more than I like "comic-thread-Darthphere". :csad:

I like him too.

Kitsune

10-23-2006, 04:10 PM

is that as dirty as it sounds?
This is cheeks. Ambush Bug's Sidekick
http://houseofirony.com/images/daily/cheeks.jpg

sinewave

10-23-2006, 04:27 PM

This is cheeks. Ambush Bug's Sidekick
http://houseofirony.com/images/daily/cheeks.jpg

awwww, i just wanna smear mayonaise on him and make an adorable sandwich out of him.

The Leaguer

10-23-2006, 04:35 PM

Ambush Bug was like a less-awesome stand-in for Mxy from Rucka's Adventures run, but awesome none the less.

WompuM

10-23-2006, 08:44 PM

Did Ruin kill Myx?

Not Jake

10-23-2006, 08:50 PM

I got more angst than an episode of The OC.
which reminds me to pick up season 3 on dvd tonight!

Seriously.:csad: You reminded me to pick it up. I watch it.:csad:

batnkevlar

10-23-2006, 08:53 PM

Yeah, Ambush Bug= annoying... like, it wasn't fun... the 4th wall breaking is only cool when done in moderation...

Darthphere

10-23-2006, 09:16 PM

which reminds me to pick up season 3 on dvd tonight!

Seriously.:csad: You reminded me to pick it up. I watch it.:csad:

Its cool man.

BrianWilly

10-26-2006, 04:49 AM

Hey, I just noticed something.

In Week 24 Osiris said "Black Adam" when he was talking to Isis. But he didn't change back to Amon. I guess he was talking in Khandaqian or whatever, so does that mean he doesn't transform unless he speaks Black Adam's name in English?

[/random]

Darthphere

10-26-2006, 06:44 AM

Random indeed.

WompuM

10-26-2006, 09:34 AM

Maybe he just reeeeeeeally has to mean it.

sethcohen

10-26-2006, 10:18 AM

spoilers?

yenaled

10-26-2006, 11:56 AM

Egg Fu :D

Looking evil as ****.

Anyone else notice the weird colour error on Icicle, one page he is his blue self, the next he is coloured normally with a weird costume and pink skin.

WompuM

10-26-2006, 12:30 PM

Does he ice-up like Bobby? I didn't know much about the character so when I saw the 'error' I didn't think much of it.

Anubis

10-26-2006, 12:42 PM

Nope, he's always arctic blue with white hair.

Purple Man

10-26-2006, 02:55 PM

Egg Fu :D

Looking evil as ****.

That last page scarred my fragile little psyche.

I imagined what a modernized Egg Fu would look like, but that is just disturbing.

LinternaVerde

10-26-2006, 06:41 PM

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/002139/52wk25_05.jpg

Anubis

10-26-2006, 07:23 PM

Dear......God......

Bullseye

10-26-2006, 08:19 PM

George Perez art for the origin of Nightwing backup story was a real treat.

Darthphere

10-26-2006, 08:21 PM

Egg Fu is one crazy looking mother****er.

Knives122

10-26-2006, 10:17 PM

Serioulsy wtf? Why, why, why? This guy is worse than Killa Nilla or Howard the Duck.

WompuM

10-26-2006, 11:17 PM

Who do you think the 4 Horsemen are, if they are people?

Maybe Supernova, or even Isis?

Kon-El? Ted? Skeets?

cerealkiller182

10-27-2006, 01:21 PM

Who do you think the 4 Horsemen are, if they are people?

Maybe Supernova, or even Isis?

Kon-El? Ted? Skeets?

I think they are new characters or maybe suped up third string villains (which seems too much like Marvel's 4 Horsemen so i dont think thats the case)

WompuM

10-27-2006, 01:50 PM

but instead of a supreme godlike mutant who looks pretty kick ass, it's humpty dumpty's fat asian cousin

Anubis

10-27-2006, 01:57 PM

I'd say he looks more like a Lovecraftian Nightmare that sprang from the heroin filled mind of Grant Morrison after a three week Omelette bender.

Tropico

10-27-2006, 02:01 PM

Nope, he's always arctic blue with white hair.
If I'm not mistaken he's supposed to be an albino, he was born a mutant due to his father's gun energies messing up his genes.

Anubis

10-27-2006, 02:03 PM

Yup. Great character.

Superman \S/

10-27-2006, 10:22 PM

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/Week23/52_Cv27_ns.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/week25/52_26p5.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/week25/52_26_p8.jpg

The Leaguer

10-28-2006, 01:00 AM

Badass cover.

Kitsune

10-28-2006, 02:06 PM

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/002139/52wk25_05.jpg
All the kings forces and all the kings men...

Fledermaus

10-28-2006, 04:58 PM

I'd say he looks more like a Lovecraftian Nightmare that sprang from the heroin filled mind of Grant Morrison after a three week Omelette bender.

Best. Character. Description. Ever.

SpideyInATree

10-29-2006, 11:37 AM

I'd say he looks more like a Lovecraftian Nightmare that sprang from the heroin filled mind of Grant Morrison after a three week Omelette bender.

Heh. That pretty much perfectly describes it. :woot:

Another pretty good week. I liked seeing Alan Scott and Mr. Terrific in the early stages of the new Checkmate, and namely pointing the finger at Luthor's super team. Cool stuff.

Kitsune

10-30-2006, 09:31 AM

I'm a little worried that about Ralph... I'm have a suspicion that Every time Superboy prime masturbates, DC kills off a Geffen Era Justice League character, and I think Ralphie boy is next in line.
Seriously though, the lesons fate is trying to get across to Mr. Dinby don't seem to be sinking in, and I'm afraid that this may be trouble in the future. Personally I always like Sue better than Ralph anyway, but I fear for Ralph's imortal soul, if only for her sake.

cerealkiller182

10-30-2006, 11:18 AM

What exactly is Ralph doing?

Darthphere

10-30-2006, 11:19 AM

Trying to get Sue back.

Doc Destruction

10-30-2006, 12:14 PM

Preferrably with less straw.

Not Jake

10-30-2006, 01:33 PM

still it'd be nice to get some vaginal rejuvination on her. I mean...come on...Ralph's putting in a lot of work to just get her back like normal.

Crowforge

10-30-2006, 09:50 PM

thing is, with all the magic flying around the dc universe this seems like an easy case to crack...

Dope Nose

11-01-2006, 01:26 AM

this has probably been brought up before but here's a bit of Wikipedia's entry on Alexander Luthor -

In 52 Week Three, the Gotham City Police Department find a body in an alley that looks like Lex Luthor. John Henry Irons examines the body at S.T.A.R. Labs and notices that contact lenses were inserted post-mortem to make the blue eyes appear green, like Lex's. Lex Luthor barges in with a throng of reporters, claiming that the body is that of an impostor from another Earth, the man truly responsible for his various crimes.

Though Alexander's body had a missing finger and a different genetic make-up from Lex's, 52 editor Stephen Wacker has confirmed that the body found in Gotham is indeed Alex, and that Luthor had altered it before the police had discovered it.

so basically Lex went through the trouble of repairing Alex Luthor's acid-scarred face (and possibly his missing finger) while altering both his appearance and DNA to match Lex's, but when it came to eye colour he said "meh. contacts will do."

nice writing guys. :whatever:

Crowforge

11-01-2006, 01:28 AM

maybe he's toying with john or maybe he want there to be some minor diffrence to prove they are minor diffrences though ones that could be overlooked?

celldog

11-01-2006, 03:52 PM

So the Black Adam "Marvel Family" get a "Tawking" Alligator like the Marvels have a "Tawking Tiger"???

Lame.....

Does anyone else see "52" fizzling out??? This book is going no where.

SouLeSS

11-01-2006, 04:22 PM

Yeah, over the past few weeks I've been kinda bored with it. :(

DonnaTroy84

11-01-2006, 05:33 PM

so basically Lex went through the trouble of repairing Alex Luthor's acid-scarred face (and possibly his missing finger) while altering both his appearance and DNA to match Lex's, but when it came to eye colour he said "meh. contacts will do."

nice writing guys. :whatever:

Well,:rolleyes: if you'd continued on in the book, they basically said that Lex put the contacts there on purpose, so that John would find them and "prove" to the press team he just "happened" to bring in at that moment that the body wasn't Lex, and that someone else had been impersonating him. He used it as a way to wipe his slate clean with the public.

Dope Nose

11-01-2006, 05:48 PM

Well,:rolleyes: if you'd continued on in the book, they basically said that Lex put the contacts there on purpose, so that John would find them and "prove" to the press team he just "happened" to bring in at that moment that the body wasn't Lex, and that someone else had been impersonating him. He used it as a way to wipe his slate clean with the public.

and had you read the book closer you'd have noticed that Lex's only mention of the contacts is when he whispers to John. his explanation to the press and public however is that the body they see is a Lex Luthor from another reality, a reality that the original Lex had been trapped in and managed to escape moments before it ceased to exist. Lex was somehow able to alter Alex Luthor's DNA to match his own so why bother with the contacts? why not simply alter the eye colour as well? is it suddenly a given within the DCU that residents of alternate realities have different coloured eyes than their counterparts?

BrianWilly

11-01-2006, 06:54 PM

Veronica Cale??!

Hell to the YES.

The Question

11-01-2006, 07:08 PM

Serioulsy wtf? Why, why, why? This guy is worse than Killa Nilla or Howard the Duck.

You say that as if Howard The Duck is a bad character. :cmad:

WompuM

11-01-2006, 07:54 PM

Yeah, because Civil War:Choosing Sides was such a fun read. Well, Iron Fist is cool.

Kitsune

11-02-2006, 09:02 AM

and had you read the book closer you'd have noticed that Lex's only mention of the contacts is when he whispers to John. his explanation to the press and public however is that the body they see is a Lex Luthor from another reality, a reality that the original Lex had been trapped in and managed to escape moments before it ceased to exist. Lex was somehow able to alter Alex Luthor's DNA to match his own so why bother with the contacts? why not simply alter the eye colour as well? is it suddenly a given within the DCU that residents of alternate realities have different coloured eyes than their counterparts?
To prove that it's a alteranate version and not just a clone (something lex can make)

Doc Destruction

11-02-2006, 09:36 AM

How anyone can be bored with this book stuns me.

Darthphere

11-02-2006, 10:52 AM

I think wve covered opinions before Doc. :oldrazz: But as far as that goes, if celldog says its boring, its worth checking out. :o

The Punisher

11-02-2006, 02:26 PM

Yeah, because Civil War:Choosing Sides was such a fun read. Well, Iron Fist is cool.

If you thought he was cool there, he's having a new on-going. :up:

sinewave

11-02-2006, 03:07 PM

It seems like a brilliant move to have Richard Dragon take Renee Montoya under his wing. Not only does she have the chance to become an excellent martial artist and potential costumed vigilante, but it's obvious that she was in a self-destructive, downward spiral and needs to straighten her life out. I can't wait to see how it turns out.

Fledermaus

11-02-2006, 03:21 PM

I guarantee it won't turn out in sex.

sinewave

11-02-2006, 03:32 PM

I guarantee it won't turn out in sex.

Me too. Lesbians and asexual hermits aren't usually sexually compatible.

Crowforge

11-02-2006, 10:34 PM

I like her, it'll be nice to not see her get beat up so often.
What do you think her codename will be? I wonder if she'll end up with batwoman?

Motown Marvel

11-03-2006, 12:59 AM

If you thought he was cool there, he's having a new on-going. :up:
new iron fist ongoing? hey, maybe this time it'll last longer than 4 issues.

mmmm....probably not.

PWN3R

11-03-2006, 01:03 AM

The cover to #26 was the best yet.

sinewave

11-03-2006, 09:25 AM

I like her, it'll be nice to not see her get beat up so often.
What do you think her codename will be? I wonder if she'll end up with batwoman?

i don't know. maybe she'll be the new tarantula.

Fledermaus

11-03-2006, 10:39 AM

Don't you guys know anything? The Question is going to die. Montoya is going to be the new Question.

sinewave

11-03-2006, 11:15 AM

Don't you guys know anything? The Question is going to die. Montoya is going to be the new Question.

that would suck!

Kitsune

11-03-2006, 11:27 AM

Killing off a character so they can replace him with someone else? DC would never do something so crass and gimicy....

Purple Man

11-03-2006, 11:42 AM

new iron fist ongoing? hey, maybe this time it'll last longer than 4 issues.

mmmm....probably not.

Ye of little faith, dweller below the mile eight.

Thy invincible Iron Fist doth be in thy talented hands of sir Brubaker.

A mighty series is in the make that will last several score of issues, and possibly an annual if the gods divine it.

...Woah...what the hell did I just say?

TheCorpulent1

11-03-2006, 03:54 PM

So long as Brubaker's attached, I don't see Marvel canceling Iron Fist. The moment he leaves, I give it 5 issues before it's canceled, tops.

Montoya as the new Question strikes me as lame, but I wouldn't really mind. I'm not much of a fan of the Question, and she has been keeping pace with him pretty well so far, even without all of the super-nifty training he's had.

The Punisher

11-03-2006, 04:06 PM

new iron fist ongoing? hey, maybe this time it'll last longer than 4 issues.

mmmm....probably not.

Read all about it here.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244321

Personally, I think it's going to be a great series with Brubaker writing.

Ye of little faith, dweller below the mile eight.

Thy invincible Iron Fist doth be in thy talented hands of sir Brubaker.

A mighty series is in the make that will last several score of issues, and possibly an annual if the gods divine it.

...Woah...what the hell did I just say?

Don't know, you sounded drunk. And it's The Immortal Iron Fist, not Invincible.

So long as Brubaker's attached, I don't see Marvel canceling Iron Fist. The moment he leaves, I give it 5 issues before it's canceled, tops.

I don't think Brubaker will leave, he's done this much to give the character justice, I see him in the title for a long time.

TheCorpulent1

11-03-2006, 04:13 PM

sinewave

11-03-2006, 04:14 PM

this is getting way off topic, but when does that series start?

Darthphere

11-03-2006, 04:15 PM

Hes co-writing with Matt fraction, id expect Brubaker to leave at some point.

TheCorpulent1

11-03-2006, 04:17 PM

So long as Brubaker sticks with Cap, I'm happy.

sinewave: No idea. It's probably on Newsarama somewhere.

The Punisher

11-03-2006, 04:20 PM

That's cool. However long he's on the title, though, I stand by my statement (with a minor qualification). The moment he leaves, unless another giant-name creator comes onboard, Iron Fist is gonna be canceled within 5 issues.

Agreed. But still I'll stick with what I said, I would really like it if Brubaker stayed longer than we'd expect. Also, check the Iron Fist thread on the Marvel Comics forum, the answer to who the Iron Fist is on #3 is revealed.

this is getting way off topic, but when does that series start?

I think in about 2 weeks. November 22.

Hes co-writing with Matt fraction, id expect Brubaker to leave at some point.

And i think he'd hold well if Brubaker left. Afterall, he's writing Punisher: War Journal and it seems like it'll be good.

Let's get this thread back on topic. :up:

sinewave

11-03-2006, 04:23 PM

I think in about 2 weeks. November 22.

thanks.

Let's get this thread back on topic. :up:

agreed.

Darthphere

11-03-2006, 04:24 PM

So thats like DC's Addams Family?

The Punisher

11-03-2006, 04:30 PM

thanks.

agreed.

My bad, it's not the 22. It's the 29 that it comes out. :up: The 22 is Punisher: War journal.

So it's the 29th for the Iron Fist title.

sinewave

11-03-2006, 04:31 PM

got it. moving on....

The Punisher

11-03-2006, 04:34 PM

Yeah, so what's been going on with Steel? I haven't been buying 52 lately, so what's going on with him?

sinewave

11-03-2006, 04:56 PM

Yeah, so what's been going on with Steel? I haven't been buying 52 lately, so what's going on with him?

not much lately. he's having a olbermann-o'reilly type feud with natasha over lex's everyman program, but that's about it.

The Punisher

11-03-2006, 05:07 PM

Wow, to think I thought we'd see more of him. Was he in this weeks issue?

sinewave

11-03-2006, 05:10 PM

yep. on a talk show arguing with natasha.

The Punisher

11-03-2006, 05:15 PM

Jeez, why the arguments with her? I gues i'll have to get some back issues and catch up.

sinewave

11-03-2006, 05:19 PM

because he doesn't trust lex and his program and she does and he feels betrayed and worried about her. she's the leader of lex's infinity inc.

The Punisher

11-03-2006, 05:23 PM

Damn! Well, now i'm definetly going to start getting it again. Thanks for the rundown, man.

And here's a new 5.2 on 52. (http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/Week26/week_26.html) :up:

sinewave

11-03-2006, 05:29 PM

no problem. thanks.

BrianWilly

11-03-2006, 05:54 PM

I thought the debate between John and Natasha was pretty interesting. Did anyone notice that it's almost the exact same sort of debate being debated in Civil War? The whole responsibility versus heroism versus training thingy. Steel accuses them of being irresponsible and untrained, and Natasha boasts that they do more good right now than any of the "trained" heroes. The difference is that neither character had to look like a jackass Nazi for them to get their point across. Both characters had good points, and both had some bad points.

An OH SNAP from next week:http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/WAcker/Week26/52_27_p4.jpg

yenaled

11-03-2006, 06:21 PM

That page from next week is delicious.

I noticed that too Brian, about John and Natasha, the weird thing is in this arguement I'm on Johns side. Yet I'm not on Iron Mans side in Civil War.

When basically it's the same arguement, guess it is all about approaches.

TheCorpulent1

11-03-2006, 06:37 PM

That page from next week is whateverish. I hope Ralph would just die already. :o

Crowforge

11-03-2006, 07:15 PM

The Question isn't going anywhere, we are watching the birth of a new hero

Darthphere

11-03-2006, 07:16 PM

That page from next week is whateverish. I hope Ralph would just die already. :o

Nah.

Crowforge

11-03-2006, 07:18 PM

Ralph is the new triple x

TheCorpulent1

11-03-2006, 07:24 PM

Nah.
Uh... yah? :confused:

sinewave

11-03-2006, 07:27 PM

Ralph is the new triple x

please don't say that. :dry:

that page looks good. can't wait to see what happens.

The Leaguer

11-04-2006, 01:15 AM

The crocodile dude is the best thing to happen to this entire series besides Zauriel.

Crowforge

11-04-2006, 03:10 AM

I don't have it yet, post a pic

yenaled

11-04-2006, 05:25 AM

please?

Crowforge

11-04-2006, 05:26 AM

Don’t beg it's unbecoming.

The Question

11-04-2006, 09:18 AM

Montoya as the new Question strikes me as lame, but I wouldn't really mind. I'm not much of a fan of the Question, and she has been keeping pace with him pretty well so far, even without all of the super-nifty training he's had.

His training wasn't that nifty. All of his detective skills were self taught, basically. His only real training was Richard Dragon teaching him to hone his combat skills.

yenaled

11-04-2006, 09:39 AM

Don’t beg it's unbecoming.

I was wondering if you wanted to remember the magic word.

I havn't got a scanner anyway.

So yup.

Darthphere

11-04-2006, 09:45 AM

The crocodile dude is the best thing to happen to this entire series besides Zauriel.

Crocodile Dude>Zauriel.

TheCorpulent1

11-04-2006, 10:39 AM

Octopus Todd > Crocodile dude

Darthphere

11-04-2006, 10:42 AM

Dude, you win.

TheCorpulent1

11-04-2006, 10:45 AM

Always.

Darthphere

11-04-2006, 10:45 AM

Except that one time.

TheCorpulent1

11-04-2006, 10:49 AM

No, that was under review until recently, when they finally declared me right.

Darthphere

11-04-2006, 10:50 AM

Nope, you lost it, and got charged a timeout.

TheCorpulent1

11-04-2006, 11:07 AM

Lies. Madden himself said, "He was right! I mean, when you're right you're right, and this man was definitely right!" Then he repeated the word "right" 400 times and exploded.

drastic_quench

11-04-2006, 12:11 PM

Anyone else catch the obvious visual clue: "crocodile tears"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_tears

TheCorpulent1

11-04-2006, 12:13 PM

I'd never heard of crocodile tears before that. Sweet. I hope the talking crocodile eats Osiris.

Crowforge

11-05-2006, 01:07 AM

I was wondering if you wanted to remember the magic word.

I havn't got a scanner anyway.

So yup.Magic words never need be spoken among friends

The Leaguer

11-05-2006, 04:13 AM

Anyone else catch the obvious visual clue: "crocodile tears"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_tears
That's actually a pretty cool catch, and would be a pretty cool bit of foreshadowing, although I hope it's not true. I like the Emodile.

That said, there is no way that scene was written by Johns.

SpideyInATree

11-05-2006, 10:47 AM

Read the latest week. Meh. I think the best thing in the book was with the kids about to time travel and it brings up the Zero Hour thing, did anybody else notice that? :huh: I didn't see anybody else mention it but I could have missed it.

Man, they really are pointing heavily toward Montoya either replacing The Question or being a partner or something along those lines.

yenaled

11-05-2006, 11:11 AM

By bringing up Zero Hour do you mean, Waverider is back?

I'm looking forward to some good time travel Waverider, Linear Men things. Always liked those characters.

SpideyInATree

11-05-2006, 11:17 AM

Yeah, Waverider is his name. I was completely blanking on his name, but yeah...that's who popped up when the two kids were going to try out time traveling. Maybe they seriously messed something up there, but it was kind of neat to see that.

The Question

11-08-2006, 08:04 PM

They're killing off The Question. With lung cancer. And Renee Montoya is replacing him. No. No no no no no no NO!

NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! (http://darthno.ytmnd.com/)

YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME! WE HAD A CONTRACT!!!!

Knives122

11-08-2006, 08:20 PM

you can always change your name to:

The Female Question(get over it)

The Question

11-08-2006, 08:27 PM

you can always change your name to:

The Female Question

I know it's a joke, but there is no end to how much I want to reach through the series of tubes and smack you right now.

(get over it)

:cmad: :csad:

Batman

11-08-2006, 09:12 PM

Well. That ****ing sucks, then. :csad:

The Question

11-08-2006, 09:20 PM

Well. That ****ing sucks, then. :csad:

The stupidest part is that he quit smoking in the first issue of his solo series. The series covered the space of about three or four years. And his more recent apearences have been said to be three years removed from his solo series. I doubt he's had lung cancer for six years and has only just learned of it.

Mee

11-08-2006, 09:26 PM

The Question

11-08-2006, 09:32 PM

They're not...really doing that...are they?

:dry:

They are. God, how could this happen?!

http://ublib.buffalo.edu/lml/comics/pages/images/contractPANEL.jpg

:csad:

Batman

11-08-2006, 09:36 PM

*gets the AK-47's*

Come on, Q. We're heading to DC's offices.

The Question

11-08-2006, 09:42 PM

*gets the AK-47's*

Come on, Q. We're heading to DC's offices.

*grabs middle eastern short sword with the arabic symbol for light carved in the blade*

Oh yes. Let's.

Mee

11-08-2006, 09:43 PM

Sign me up.:mad:

The Question

11-08-2006, 10:06 PM

Also, the idea of The Question having a legacy makes no sense. The Question is Vic's way of finding himself. He never knew his parents. His name, Charles Victor Szazs, is just what the nuns at the orphanige called him. Vic Sage is his stage name. The Question is the closest he gets to having an identity that is truely his own. You can't have a legacy situation with that. God damn it, DC keeps screwing over the Charlton characters so bad. What next? We find out that Nightshade is secretly a serial killer/rapist who feeds on the blook of 55 year old jewish women named Fran?

WompuM

11-08-2006, 10:16 PM

Oh this pisses me right off. Let's melt off their faces.

Darthphere

11-09-2006, 06:55 AM

Yes, common DC practice.

Didio: We need a B-List character to make pretty popular, get everyone to like him and then kill him off because hes useless to us. I say nightwing.

52 Quartet: We tried that already.

Didio: Ok, The Question, and im not taking no for an answer.

52 Quartet: *look at DC Exclusive contracts* Ok, sure.

yenaled

11-09-2006, 07:43 AM

Question, Waverider, Booster Gold, Skeets, Aquaman, The Ray, Tyler Hourman, Ray Palmer, Batgirl.

If they kill Animal Man pretty much most my favourite second tire characters are gone and they have pretty much managed to kill everything that was good from the 90s (Wally West gone, Kyle Rayner not got an ongoing, Connor Hawke being jobbed by Winick) DC do realise a lot of their fans got into comics in the 90s and actually liked some elements from it, not everyone reading comic grew up in the 60s/70s :(

OYL sucks :(

Mee

11-09-2006, 09:29 AM

The crisis was suposed to bring balance to the DCU, not bring it into darkness.:csad:[/Obi-Won]

Knives122

11-09-2006, 09:49 AM

Obi-Wan is spelled with an a, not an o........:dew:

GoldenAgeHero

11-09-2006, 09:53 AM

haha did'nt i predict montoya would replace question. thing is i made it as a joke to get the question pissed.:(

sinewave

11-09-2006, 09:58 AM

that whole cancer thing seems extremely tacked-on. it came out of nowhere. i love renee but i'd rather have her establish her own vigilante identity rather than take over for someone else.

Knives122

11-09-2006, 10:28 AM

Well if you guy's are lucky, she'll get cancer too. And pass the mantle on to someone with the same name as the orig. question.

Darthphere

11-09-2006, 10:45 AM

that whole cancer thing seems extremely tacked-on. it came out of nowhere. i love renee but i'd rather have her establish her own vigilante identity rather than take over for someone else.

Doesnt surprise me, most of these developments in 52 seem "tacked on". Though one wonders, in JLA Vixen makes a point that she thought she was meeting The Question, im sure his death would resonate somewhat in the hero community, unless he wanted to go out Elvis style.

Doc Destruction

11-09-2006, 10:46 AM

Unless the Question was Renee that Vixen was meeting.

Darthphere

11-09-2006, 10:47 AM

Unless the Question was Renee that Vixen was meeting.

Please, dont ever say that again. Though im sure Vixen isnt a lesbian, and she made some hot guy reference.:huh:

Doc Destruction

11-09-2006, 10:50 AM

Might not be general knowledge yet, just speculatin'.

sinewave

11-09-2006, 10:51 AM

Unless the Question was Renee that Vixen was meeting.

Does Vixen swing that way? That'd be interesting in an, already been there with Midnighter and Apollo kind of way. Hot, interracial, lesbian superheroics! Sign me up!

Doc Destruction

11-09-2006, 10:53 AM

No, I mean maybe Vixen doesn't know that the Question is now Renee. /shrug

sinewave

11-09-2006, 11:18 AM

oh, well thanks for getting me worked up. :mad:

WompuM

11-09-2006, 12:49 PM

umm.... yep.
still pissed.

Super Mario

11-09-2006, 02:21 PM

I have my doubts The Question's really going to die.

celldog

11-09-2006, 04:11 PM

GoldenAgeHero

11-09-2006, 04:23 PM

ted kord had nothing going for him.

CConn

11-09-2006, 05:46 PM

Before they did anything with him? Ted was in the JLA (well...JLI:o), was involved in several mini-series, was a supporting character in books like Birds of Prey, and died one of the most important deaths in one of the most important events in the DCU. That's pretty damn good for, really, a fourth-string character like Blue Beetle.

Question, though. Yeah, he's a different story. Especially now that his popularity seems to be at its highest levels.

Darthphere

11-09-2006, 08:17 PM

Memo to DC: Never let Chaykin draw Black Canary again,

Green Lantern

11-09-2006, 08:22 PM

This really pisses me off!! How many other Charton characters are they gonna knock off!!??? :cmad:

Ted Kord....dead before they really did anything with him!!!
Now the Question...........???????

And here we go with the PC "let's put a woman in that role" thing!!

And do they keep calling him Charlie??? What happen to Vic Sage??Well... they broke Judo Master's back (IC 7); and killed Peacemaker (also IC 7) :o

And you must not know much about Q if you don't know why they call him Charlie... his full name is Charles Victor Szasz (sp?) He changed it to Victor Sage for recognition purposes with his journalism career.

The Question

11-09-2006, 08:51 PM

that whole cancer thing seems extremely tacked-on. it came out of nowhere. i love renee but i'd rather have her establish her own vigilante identity rather than take over for someone else.

The only reason it fits at all is because he was a smoker at one point. But he quit six years prior to the events in 52.

Doesnt surprise me, most of these developments in 52 seem "tacked on". Though one wonders, in JLA Vixen makes a point that she thought she was meeting The Question, im sure his death would resonate somewhat in the hero community, unless he wanted to go out Elvis style.

It probably wouldn't have resonated too much. The only friends he has in the hero community are Batman, Green Arrow, and Blue Beetle. Since Ted's dead, Bruce only barely comes close to liking him, and Ollie is so wrapped up in all this political crap, I doubt that it would have been noticed on that end of things. Besides them, Q's interacted with Superman at least once, but they've both displayed a very strong mutual dislike of one another (mostly because Vic has a bit of a crush on Lois). He's probably not that well known amung other masked crime fighters besides that.

This really pisses me off!! How many other Charton characters are they gonna knock off!!??? :cmad:

Ted Kord....dead before they really did anything with him!!!
Now the Question...........???????

Don't forget Captain Atom being crazy for no reason, Punch getting gunned down by middle eastern soldiers, and Nightshade barely getting any exposure in Shadowpact.

And here we go with the PC "let's put a woman in that role" thing!!

That's not as big a problem as the fact that he's being replaced at all. but it does make it seem a bit more cheap.

And do they keep calling him Charlie??? What happen to Vic Sage??

His full name is Charles Victor Szazs. Vic Sage is his stage name. And Tot always calls him Charlie.

Crowforge

11-09-2006, 08:52 PM

WHere does it say he has cancer?

The Question

11-09-2006, 08:55 PM

WHere does it say he has cancer?

In week 24, Renee commented that he's been coughing violently. She asks him "When did you quit?" He says "Not soon enough." They're basically saying that he's dying of lung cancer. Which is bull, since, as I've said many times, he quit smoking a little over six years before the events in 52. If smoking every gave him terminal lung cancer, he'd have been dead for several years by now.

Darthphere

11-09-2006, 08:56 PM

Week 27.

Purple Man

11-09-2006, 08:57 PM

I never knew that the Question smoked cigarettes.

Ever since I heard rumors of the Question dieing, no one has mentioned him smoking. I've always heard that if anything was going to kill him it would be the chemicals from his no-face mask.

yenaled

11-09-2006, 09:18 PM

What's kind of odd is that Greg Rucka said the reason that Renne isn't Batwoman is that he sees that character (his own creation) wouldn't put on a costume and wouldn't don a secret identity or work as a vigilante.

So why would she become a new Question?

The Question

11-09-2006, 09:23 PM

Week 27.

My mistake.

I never knew that the Question smoked cigarettes.

Ever since I heard rumors of the Question dieing, no one has mentioned him smoking. I've always heard that if anything was going to kill him it would be the chemicals from his no-face mask.

He smokes in the first issue of his solo series written by Denny O'Neil. Tot said the cigarrets introduced far too many foreign chemicals into his body, which is why he had an earlier problem with his mask sticking on. After that, he wasn't seen smoking again, probably because he wanted his mask stayed on better, to make sure his lungs wouldn't crap out on him in a fight, or most importantly and most likely, due to his newfound respect for his own life after his near death experiance in issue one. Also, early on he spent several months training with Richard Dragon, and Richard probably had a pretty strict "no smoking rule" during that streach. But, like Is said, that all happened about six or seven years before the events in 52.

Super Mario

11-09-2006, 11:21 PM

What really ticks me off is that some people think Renee will be a good replacement and that this is a good idea. She's so far away from where The Question was at the beginning of his series, and she doesn't come off nearly as intelligent or witty.

Eros

11-09-2006, 11:48 PM

Renee is gonna take questions "Place." How the hell do you become the "New Question" question is more then just a name, its the the characters attuide and personalty. The way he views his life and the world that makes him unique, you can't take some drunkard female cop and make her the "New" Question. Thats like takeing some gay actor off the street and makeing them the new "Marlon Brando".

SonOfCthulhu

11-10-2006, 12:13 AM

Just finished week 27. Ralph's stuff was good, but the news about the Question went completely in the wrong direction.

When they killed Ted, I gave the new book a try. I'm not going to make the same mistake if the off Question and put Renee in his place.

DC's routine of trying to "reinvent" itself is getting pretty old.

Phatman

11-10-2006, 09:33 AM

twylight

11-10-2006, 09:35 AM

Memo to DC: Never let Chaykin draw Black Canary again,

Thank you. :o

Actually my 'comments' on 52 had more to do with the Origin...go figure..

Green Lantern

11-10-2006, 10:39 AM

I've seen this formula before with this 52 nonsense Kill off classic characters the then replace them with new crappy versions. Has Dan Didido watched Transformers the movie and thinks that approach will work here in comics?

Didn't work then 20 years ago It won't work now. Dick Parsons needs to hand this guy his pink slip before DC implodes.Uh the main person they replaced with a new 'crappy' version, as you state it, twenty years ago, was killing Barry Allen and replacing him with Wally West... That didn't work for them? :huh: Last I knew Wally was THE most popular Flash... :huh:

Darthphere

11-10-2006, 10:42 AM

Too bad Bart is the Flash now.

Purple Man

11-10-2006, 10:45 AM

Thank you. :o

Actually my 'comments' on 52 had more to do with the Origin...go figure..

When it has to do with Black Canary, no one is suprised, Twy.

I loved week 27, and was feeling all good, and then I got to the origin of the week and got slapped in the face with ugly.

If I wanted to see an ugly face I'd just look in the mirror.

WompuM

11-10-2006, 12:26 PM

I'm pretty sure Q will die from an energy bolt from Dr. Manhat... I mean, Supernova.

CConn

11-10-2006, 12:55 PM

Memo to DC: Never let Chaykin draw anything again,Fixed. :o

twylight

11-10-2006, 02:48 PM

When it has to do with Black Canary, no one is suprised, Twy.

I loved week 27, and was feeling all good, and then I got to the origin of the week and got slapped in the face with ugly.

If I wanted to see an ugly face I'd just look in the mirror.

I know, I was being sarcastic. :cwink:

You're making me cry..:csad:

The only redeeming part of it was how vague they left it. They didn't address if she helped for the JLA..so..there's still hope!

*Lights a candle*