The Official '52' Thread

[Nightwing]

52 begins soon, with the key players of the book being, The Question, Renee Montoya, Black Adam, Elongated Man, Steel,and Booster Gold. The book will also be written by writers Geoff Johns, Grant Morrison, Greg Rucka, Keith Giffen, and Mark Waid. 52 also explains what happend during the missing year that led up to One Year Later.

The Question: Takes Gotham City under his protection during the year.

Black Adam: Willingly makes the decision of being the one to bring peace and justice to the world.

Ralph Dibny/Elongated Man: Still mourning the loss of his wife Sue, we see Ralph on the verge of possible suicide in the preview to 52 before getting a call that her gave has been messed with.

Steel: Decides to return as a hero for the series.

Booster Gold: BG protects Metropolis while Superman is away, he's still dealing with his best friends (Blue Beetle/Ted Kord) death.

Renee Montoya: Montoya returns to the weekly series and plays a very important role, she's also been rumored to helm the mantle of the new Batwoman. Though, nothing is official yet. Also, she may have an interation with Question and aid him while he's in Gotham.

One of the six people above don't make it out alive towards the books conclusion, take your pick. There's talk about other heroes being part of the main cast, they were said to be surprises and big names.

How many of you will buy the maxiseries, and what are your thoughts?

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/editors/Wacker/52_1_cvr.jpg

[SouLeSS]

Where are Superman and Batman?

[Nightwing]

Where are Superman and Batman?

Well for one, we find out in Robin OYL and Teen Titans that the Bat-family spent the missing year on a trip around the world....

[SouLeSS]

How can you just be like "alright, I'll be back in a year, Gotham, don't get to ****ed up"?

[Lackey]

How can you just be like "alright, I'll be back in a year, Gotham, don't get to ****ed up"?


Gotham was left under the care of The Question


As for Superman, he lost his powers after Infinite Crisis and doesn't have them for the whole year... in fact, the year is over and he still doesn't have them.

[The Question]

The thing is, they said someone was going to die at the end of 52. I think it's going to be The Question. In the recent Wizard interveiw with the writers, they didn't mention The Question once. And they showed pictures of each of the characters. Except The Question. :(

[warren_sparta27]

if The Question is Gothams new protector, then where is he OYL?
i'd say Harvey Dent kills him...

[Spectre722]

the whole idea is that dc's trinity (superman, batman, wonderwoman) is replaced for 52 by steel, the question, and black adam, respectively. booster gold isnt really replacing anybody cuz he's just cool on his own.

[Mister J]

It sucks if they're going to get rid of Q. I'm just starting to get into his character. I can't wait for 52 though. It's a pretty cool concept...and it's weekly. This is gonna be good.

[The BatDude]

if they do kill Question I hope he dies as a hero and not some crappy ass way

[Nightwing]

It sucks if they're going to get rid of Q. I'm just starting to get into his character. I can't wait for 52 though. It's a pretty cool concept...and it's weekly. This is gonna be good.

It's not actually official yet that he'll be the one to die, even with all the speculation which led up to his name being on the top of the list. I honestly think it's a bad idea, only because his popularity has risen with alot of fans do to his appearence in JLU and how he was portrayed. I was expecting to see more of him after 52 was over and still hope to (if death doesn't come knocking on his door). So much could be done with him, the possibilities are endless...

And I agree, 52 is looking up to be a great one.

[The Batman]

I really hope the main characters of 52 are taken to the next level. Booster should be more than a lame-o. His Celebrity superhero concept is awesome, and different from most dc heroes

[Spectre722]

and the concept that he now uses the historical records to stop crimes

[The BatDude]

and the concept that he now uses the historical records to stop crimessometimes I think Booster could of prevented the Crisis by just looking at his historical records

[Spectre722]

nah. the crisis was too big. even if he did manage to find out, he'd be just as dead as beetle.

[The BatDude]

but couldn't he find out who was behind the whole thing?

[drastic_quench]

$2.50 Forever!

[Purple Man]

Who is the Question exactly? Does anyone know or really care who is behind the mask?

Maybe the Question will die, and someone else may take up the mantle later on.

John Henry Irons may be a possible choice as well. His niece or his daughter (whatever she is, I can't remember) could easily take up his armor.

Or maybe Booster, that would really get people mad.

I'd hope they wouldn't kill Ralph or Black Adam.

[deathshead2]

Its the question just think about it to many reasons for him to die and less reason for everyone else.

[deathshead2]

Who is the Question exactly? Does anyone know or really care who is behind the mask?

Maybe the Question will die, and someone else may take up the mantle later on.

John Henry Irons may be a possible choice as well. His niece or his daughter (whatever she is, I can't remember) could easily take up his armor.

Or maybe Booster, that would really get people mad.

I'd hope they wouldn't kill Ralph or Black Adam.BB won't die someone has to watch over the new bb. Steel just got back he isn't going to die twice.

[The Question]

Who is the Question exactly?

He's this guy. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_%28comics%29)

Does anyone know or really care who is behind the mask?

I do on both counts. :mad:

Maybe the Question will die, and someone else may take up the mantle later on.

Which would suck.

[Elongated Man]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please don't let it be Elongated Man who bites it, dammit. :( That would suck incredibly, and make me eternaly pissed for a good while. Ralph is my favorite character of all time and has been for years, not to mention how he's one of the best detectives out there. I don't want it to be like just because Sue died, he has to suffer the same fate. I want to see alot more out of him if he survives 52, maybe even an ongoing series!! :)

Written by Geoff Johns and art by Phil Jimenez ofcourse.

[The BatDude]

I also feel that Hourman 2 is going to die(or something bad) I don't know why but I have a gut feeling on this one.And is it weird that he came out in IC but in the JSA OYL?

[droogiedroogie2]

I really hope the main characters of 52 are taken to the next level. Booster should be more than a lame-o. His Celebrity superhero concept is awesome, and different from most dc heroesDifferent doesn't necessarily mean good. If he's good for anything, he's good for reminding readers of why America sucks. Because he's pretty much the epitome of America sucking.

I agree that The Question shouldn't die. There's just no reason to. Haven't we slaughtered enough heroes already?

I would like it if Booster died, though. Another nail in the coffin of JLI.

[Agentdemon]

The thing is, they said someone was going to die at the end of 52. I think it's going to be The Question. In the recent Wizard interveiw with the writers, they didn't mention The Question once. And they showed pictures of each of the characters. Except The Question. :(

I imagine if that happens your world will be over.

[GoldenAgeHero]

lmao that would be funny. but yeah i think the question bites it. and harvey dent took over.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Different doesn't necessarily mean good. If he's good for anything, he's good for reminding readers of why America sucks. Because he's pretty much the epitome of America sucking.

I agree that The Question shouldn't die. There's just no reason to. Haven't we slaughtered enough heroes already?

I would like it if Booster died, though. Another nail in the coffin of JLI.


the irony!

[Assassin]

how can this be the official 52 thread if i made one last summer? lmao

even goldenage made one a few months back

[UK_Stu]

Do we know if a Batwoman exists one year later? Because if there isn't one, I'd think that Montoya is dead meat - if she does become Batwoman.

[Assassin]

theres a newspaper on the walls in the daly planet office that reads who is batwoman..thats all we know

[GoldenAgeHero]

how can this be the official 52 thread if i made one last summer? lmao

even goldenage made one a few months back


i did:confused:

[Assassin]

yes you did, me and super ludacris ripped you a new one in it, i know how much you want to forget it

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222079

[The Leaguer]

I demand weekly appearances by Zauriel.

[Lackey]

how can this be the official 52 thread if i made one last summer? lmao

even goldenage made one a few months back


you guys jumped the gun :o

[cerealkiller182]

What is the significance of the number 52?

[Assassin]

number of issues, number of weeks in a year..number of weeks that remain a mystery?

[Lackey]

What is the significance of the number 52?


52 issues in this series, one issue will be released weekly and each issue will cover one week in DCU's missing year after Infinite Crisis.

[cerealkiller182]

OIC, thanks, its a very logical idea, i probably should have come up with it myself.

[Tojo]

52 issues in this series, one issue will be released weekly and each issue will cover one week in DCU's missing year after Infinite Crisis.

Holy *** i thought there was only 4 issues :confused:

no room for delays

[TheCorpulent1]

That's why there are 4 writers and a Chinese slaveboat's worth of artists involved. I feel bad for JG Jones, though. He's probably working his fingers to the bone cranking out all 52 covers.

[Assassin]

this just in..

In responce to the overwhelming anticipation of DC's "52 do out next month, Brian Michael Bendis is going to write a daily series entitled "365", which takes place in between house of M and Civil war..even though there wasn't a year in between these events.

Credit: Assassin Press

[drastic_quench]

hahahaha

[Green Lantern]

this just in..

In responce to the overwhelming anticipation of DC's "52 do out next month, Brian Michael Bendis is going to write a daily series entitled "356", which takes place in between house of M and Civil war..even though there wasn't a year in between these events.

Credit: Assassin PressOf course there wasn't a year between them, or the title of the book would have been "365" not "356" Duh.

[TheCorpulent1]

Burn. :p

[Green Lantern]

and here I was gonna say the same thing about your comment in the TT OYL thread... great minds really do think alike Corpy.

[Assassin]

Of course there wasn't a year between them, or the title of the book would have been "365" not "356" Duh.

my bad i had a customer and i was rushing, it was atleast sorta funny wasnt it? not even a lil:(

[Green Lantern]

No, not really

[Assassin]

quench liked it...and maybe it made corp smile..:(

[TheCorpulent1]

GL's comment about it made me smile. :)

[Assassin]

ohh come on you act like it hasnt crossed bendis's mind

[Green Lantern]

I aim to please. You aim too, please :)

[drastic_quench]

Actually, with Bendis's decompression - it'd be a panel a day calendar.

January 1st: Spider-Man!
January 2nd: What?
January 3rd: Look out --
January 4th: Behind You!
January 5th: Behind me?
January 6th: Yeah.

[Lackey]

my bad i had a customer and i was rushing, it was atleast sorta funny wasnt it? not even a lil:(


where do you work?

[TheCorpulent1]

He mentioned customers. My first guess is a Happy Endings massage parlor.

[Nightwing]

Previews for future covers of 52.


http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/July06/DCU/52Week10.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/July06/DCU/52Week9.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/July06/DCU/52Week12.jpg

52: WEEKS 9-12
Written by Geoff Johns, Grant Morrison,Greg Rucka and Mark Waid
Breakdowns by Keith Giffen
Art by various
Backup features by Dan Jurgens & Norm Rapmund and Mark Waid and Adam Hughes
Covers by J.G. Jones
The story of the year continues in four more action-packed chapters of comics’ only weekly superhero adventure! This month, get ready for the debut of three new characters that will create a powerful impact in the DCU...and change the face of 52 completely.
In WEEK 9, with art by Shawn Moll & Tom Nguyen, learn who dies before Devilance. Plus, witness the debut of the new JLA!
WEEK 10, illustrated by Chris Batista (LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES) & Jimmy Palmiotti, features the debut of Supernova, the new guardian of Metropolis!
WEEK 11, featuring art by Joe Bennett & Jack Jadson and Todd Nauck & Marlo Alquiza, sheds light on the mysterious woman protecting Gotham City…wearing a very familiar uniform!
Black Adam finds love in the arms of mythology in WEEK 12, with art by Eddy Barrows & Rob Stull. Isis is here! Plus the debut of the new SECRET ORIGINS backup featuring the origin of Wonder Woman by Mark Waid and Adam Hughes!
52: A year without Superman; a year without Batman; a year without Wonder Woman …but not a year without heroes.
Week 9 on sale July 6 • Week 10 on sale July 12 • Week 11 on sale July 19 • Week 12 on sale July 26 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

[yenaled]

Is that... Deliverance the Pursuer?

http://www.sean-walsh.com/newgods/pursuer.jpg

Does that mean Starfire, Animal Man and Adam Strange are on Adon, hmm...

I think the forever people are going to be in this.

The New Gods are back!

Also that Black Adam cover is gorgeous.

[Nightwing]

Is that... Deliverance the Pursuer?

http://www.sean-walsh.com/newgods/pursuer.jpg

Yes, it is.

Does that mean Starfire, Animal Man and Adam Strange are on Adon, hmm...

Looks like this is where we find out which of the three meet death, Starfire would be my pick for this one. Her status wasn't revealed yet in Teen Titans, just a guess.

I'm really curious as to who these three new heroes will be, and it seems issue #11 is where we finally see the debut of Batwoman.

[TheCorpulent1]

Is that... Deliverance the Pursuer?
Nope. It's actually Devilance the Pursuer. Deliverance is his inbred cousin. :)

[Green Lantern]

With banjo picking action feature :eek:

[Dr. Mid-Nite]

This is great, I have the name of my all time favorite hero and I get to talk in a thread involving the Hype's own Batman and Green Lantern! http://superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Anyway, 52 is really looking to be DC's greatest book when it hits shelves. Everything of how it'll explain what led up to One Year Later is what I'm looking forward to the most, I also DON'T want to see The Question die. He's such an awesome character, also the art the book is seriously something worth seeing and it's packed with some of my all time favorite writers. I may be new to this site, but I've been a comic fan for years. So for sure, I'll be picking up my copy of issue 1 when it arrives next month.

[GoldenAgeHero]

well we finally get to see supernova on the cover with clark kent, so i guess we can rule it's conner.

[Lackey]

I wonder why the newspaper says The Daily Star???

[The Leaguer]

Most newspapers have names, like "Washington Post" or "New York Times." Newspapers print those names at the tops of the front pages of their papers in big, bold print, so that readers know what they're reading. Chances are that the "Daily Star" on that paper signifies that the paper is called "Daily Star."

[Darthphere]

So i guess this kind of removes the Connor is Supernova theories?

[cerealkiller182]

I wonder why the newspaper says The Daily Star???

Maybe hes not in metropolis. They prolly just changed the name of the Daily Planet

[Wargod]

It seems that Supernova isn't Superboy...

[GoldenAgeHero]

no ****. he kinda of looks like red-tornado, maybe he's the military secret weapon, but they revamped him?

[The BatDude]

http://dccomics.com/media/covers/5215_400x600.jpg (javascript:void(0))

[Assassin]

where do you work?

when i'm online? a Hotel front desk, when not, a grocerie store, produce dept.

[Assassin]

Is that... Deliverance the Pursuer?

No, thats Galaktas :p


side note, newsarama no longer has that super nova pic on the site, its been taken down


is that a bat symbol on his chest? (supernova)

[yenaled]

It really looks like Red Tornado.

BTW, there has always been a Daily Star in post-COIE Earth, it's just another paper in the USA.

[GoldenAgeHero]

It really looks like Red Tornado.

BTW, there has always been a Daily Star in post-COIE Earth, it's just another paper in the USA.

the military probably dismantled his arse and rebuilt him with new powers. i think they added on to his existing powers. hmm

[Assassin]

It really looks like Red Tornado.

BTW, there has always been a Daily Star in post-COIE Earth, it's just another paper in the USA.

yes, golden age, then earth 2

[yenaled]

the military probably dismantled his arse and rebuilt him with new powers. i think they added on to his existing powers. hmm

Well, they can't "give him new powers" his powers come from him being a wind elemental.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Well, they can't "give him new powers" his powers come from him being a wind elemental.

yeah,but seeing how the government has alien technology, who knows the extent of how they can implement that tech in red-tornado.

[The Question]

Well, they could give him extra powers, but he'd still keep his wind powers.

[Wargod]

I think that Supernova may be Eradicator.

[Fledermaus]

or Martian Manhunter

[The BatDude]

I think that Supernova may be Eradicator.
I think you might be right, Eradicator was injured by a OMAC and what if the military finds him and you know the rest

[GoldenAgeHero]

or Martian Manhunter


riiiiiiiiight:down

[Assassin]

ppl at comic bloc are saying it could be ray palmer.. but i dont think so

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm pretty sure people at DC have said there are absolutely no plans for Ray to return anytime in the foreseeable future. The Atom comic that's coming out soon will be about a totally new character.
I think that Supernova may be Eradicator.
That would be cool. I'd prefer the Eradicator to Red Tornado.

[GoldenAgeHero]

I'm pretty sure people at DC have said there are absolutely no plans for Ray to return anytime in the foreseeable future. The Atom comic that's coming out soon will be about a totally new character.

That would be cool. I'd prefer the Eradicator to Red Tornado.

why?

[Assassin]

cuz thats what they said, there is no why, they said no ray palmer for a while.

[Dr. Mid-Nite]

http://dccomics.com/media/covers/5215_400x600.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0))

OMFG.....






I question mark in blood, it can't be The Question's. :(

[GoldenAgeHero]

cuz thats what they said, there is no why, they said no ray palmer for a while.

i meant why as in why does corp feel eradicator would be cool as supernove but not red-tornado.

[GoldenAgeHero]

OMFG.....






I question mark in blood, it can't be The Question's. :(

you know what would be funny, if the riddler killed the question and left taht blood question mark. that'll be hilarious and very ironic.

[Dr. Mid-Nite]

you know what would be funny, if the riddler killed the question and left taht blood question mark. that'll be hilarious and very ironic.

But who's the guy standing behind that girl on that cover? what if it's him?

[yenaled]

I think it would be funnier the other way round.

[Spidey Rules 2]

Okay I'd like to ask you all for your opinion. I've been reading DC comics since Identity Crisis up to Infinite Crisis (when does this last issue come out anyway)? My question is do you think I'll enjoy 52? I am mostly familiar with the big three (SM, WW, BM). I took a chance once with JLA: Year One and I wasn't impressed (this book did not have the big three either). What do you guys think?

[TheCorpulent1]

If you specifically follow the trinity and couldn't appreciate JLA Year One without them, I doubt you'd enjoy 52. It follows the entire DC universe over the course of the missing year between IC and OYL, but it focuses primarily on Booster Gold, Renee Montoya, Black Adam, the Question, Ralph Dibny, and Lex Luthor.
i meant why as in why does corp feel eradicator would be cool as supernove but not red-tornado.
Because it makes more sense given the Eradicator's energy-based powers and because I like the Red Tornado as he is.

[yenaled]

I think Supernova is Max Lord, newly ressurected by an evil L-Ron.

[TheCorpulent1]

I would KILL to see that! Brother Eye's final act before total deactivation: reprogramming L-Ron to totally dig Max in that way. :)

[Nightwing]

But who's the guy standing behind that girl on that cover? what if it's him?

She's Renee Montoya, but no one knows who that is behind her.

[yenaled]

Daily Planet 52 Week Special (http://www.dccomics.com/sites/52/).

I have a feeling this subsite will be sued a lot by DC in the next year :D

[Michael Corleone]

Daily Planet 52 Week Special (http://www.dccomics.com/sites/52/).

I have a feeling this subsite will be sued a lot by DC in the next year :D


Why? It's owned by DC.

[yenaled]

hahaha, typo. Meant to be used.

[Stealth_Prime]

I want to apologize for this post, I do not mean to sound mean to the fans of the Elongated Man...but I'm afraid I don't have as much knowledge of the Elongated Man as much as I am familiar with Mr. Fantastic....So please forgive me and help me see the light.

As much as I respect Ralph....I have a hard time accepting him as a hero....
I guess it would help if he had his own cartoon show like his counterpart Plastic Man and Mr Fantastic in the Fantastic Four cartoons.

He's not a scientist like Reed, but a detective like Batman? But he's married to a woman named Sue. Isn't Sue also the name of Reed's wife. Instead of spouting off scientific knowledge; Ralph makes jokes. He's part of a group just as Reed's part of a group.

I know he speaks French. And that was the only reason why I put up with him during the JLE early days. Because out of the whole group he knew a little bit more about the country they were located in.
But, I don't know how I can like him when all I see are watered down parts of Marvels FF head honcho.
Somebody please help me see the value of this character.
Superman was right during the recruitment meeting in Smallville, Kansas in the pages of the JLA.

"I considered Elongated Man, but with respect to Ralph, I agree that PLastic Man has more versatility." (JLA # 16 page 11 panel 3)
Someone please help me appreciating Ralph.

[GoldenAgeHero]

if you dont like him, you dont like him. stop whining over it.

[The Question]

I want to apologize for this post, I do not mean to sound mean to the fans of the Elongated Man...but I'm afraid I don't have as much knowledge of the Elongated Man as much as I am familiar with Mr. Fantastic....So please forgive me and help me see the light.

As much as I respect Ralph....I have a hard time accepting him as a hero....
I guess it would help if he had his own cartoon show like his counterpart Plastic Man and Mr Fantastic in the Fantastic Four cartoons.

He's not a scientist like Reed, but a detective like Batman? But he's married to a woman named Sue. Isn't Sue also the name of Reed's wife. Instead of spouting off scientific knowledge; Ralph makes jokes. He's part of a group just as Reed's part of a group.

I know he speaks French. And that was the only reason why I put up with him during the JLE early days. Because out of the whole group he knew a little bit more about the country they were located in.
But, I don't know how I can like him when all I see are watered down parts of Marvels FF head honcho.
Somebody please help me see the value of this character.
Superman was right during the recruitment meeting in Smallville, Kansas in the pages of the JLA.

"I considered Elongated Man, but with respect to Ralph, I agree that PLastic Man has more versatility." (JLA # 16 page 11 panel 3)
Someone please help me appreciating Ralph.


Well, first off, Ralph predates Mr. Fantastic by a few years. And his marraige also predates that of Reed and Sue. Ralph was a member of the League, not because of his streatching powers, but because he's a bloody brilliant detective. Probably just as good at figuring stuff out as Batman. And, Batman, being a street level hero mostly, isn't a full time League memeber and usually serves as a tactical consultant for the group when he's there. Plus, it's better to have a detective who can be shot and not die than a detective who's all human and easily killable.

[Darthphere]

Well, first off, Ralph predates Mr. Fantastic by a few years. And his marraige also predates that of Reed and Sue. Ralph was a member of the League, not because of his streatching powers, but because he's a bloody brilliant detective. Probably just as good at figuring stuff out as Batman. And, Batman, being a street level hero mostly, isn't a full time League memeber and usually serves as a tactical consultant for the group when he's there. Plus, it's better to have a detective who can be shot and not die than a detective who's all human and easily killable.


Thats funny. The Batman fanboys attack!

[The Question]

Bring it on. :cool:

[GoldenAgeHero]

Well, first off, Ralph predates Mr. Fantastic by a few years. And his marraige also predates that of Reed and Sue. Ralph was a member of the League, not because of his streatching powers, but because he's a bloody brilliant detective. Probably just as good at figuring stuff out as Batman. And, Batman, being a street level hero mostly, isn't a full time League memeber and usually serves as a tactical consultant for the group when he's there. Plus, it's better to have a detective who can be shot and not die than a detective who's all human and easily killable.

cant ralph be metled tho or frozen then shattered, sounds like he's pretty killable to me.

[The Question]

Yeah. But not easily killable. He's still bulletproof, and can probably take minor explosions well.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Yeah. But not easily killable. He's still bulletproof, and can probably take minor explosions well.

thanks for answering and im sure batman can take him out, if he needed too.

[The Question]

All I'm saying is, Ralph has a better chance of survivng in the feild than Bruce. Which is why he was probably chosen.

[GoldenAgeHero]

All I'm saying is, Ralph has a better chance of survivng in the feild than Bruce. Which is why he was probably chosen.

not really, he has an easier chance because of his powers. but any great tactician can survive the field, just like batman is capable of.

[Darthphere]

Question, Batman fanboy assault underway....

[Anubis]

GAH's not a Batman fanboy. He's just a disagreeable douche.

[Darthphere]

GAH's not a Batman fanboy. He's just a disagreeable douche.


Isnt it the same thing?:confused:

[The Question]

not really, he has an easier chance because of his powers. but any great tactician can survive the field, just like batman is capable of.


Not the same thing. There are some things Batman just can't get around. Being punched by Mongul is one of them.

[drastic_quench]

"I AM THE KNIGHT!"

*splat*

[Stealth_Prime]

Well, first off, Ralph predates Mr. Fantastic by a few years. And his marraige also predates that of Reed and Sue. Ralph was a member of the League, not because of his streatching powers, but because he's a bloody brilliant detective. Probably just as good at figuring stuff out as Batman. And, Batman, being a street level hero mostly, isn't a full time League memeber and usually serves as a tactical consultant for the group when he's there. Plus, it's better to have a detective who can be shot and not die than a detective who's all human and easily killable.


Thanks so much for the education Question....never knew he predated Reed.

[XFanTim]

Elongated Man first appeared in Flash #112 (published in 1960). Mr. Fantastic's first appearance was in Fantastic Four #1 (published in 1961).

Plastic Man predates them both, having first appeared in Police Comics #1 in 1941. But he missed being the first stretching hero by about a year, getting beat out by the Thin Man (http://www.geocities.com/jjnevins/thinman.html).

[GoldenAgeHero]

Not the same thing. There are some things Batman just can't get around. Being punched by Mongul is one of them.


what part of tactician dont you understand? you honestly think batman would go hand to hand with mongul?

[The Question]

No. Of course not. That's my point. It's better to have a detective who can survive in the feild than a detective who would have to wait it out on the side lines.

[drastic_quench]

Of course in the real world it's better to have a huge name like Batman in your comic - than a no name stretchy guy.

[GoldenAgeHero]

No. Of course not. That's my point. It's better to have a detective who can survive in the feild than a detective who would have to wait it out on the side lines.


im not sure ralph can survive agaisnt mongul either, unless the omics prove otherwise.

[cerealkiller182]

Batman would go up against Mongul. During the Red Hood story, he went up against Amazo, who i think would be a greater threat than Mongul. And Batman was with Nightwing. If he goes up against Mongul, he would probably be with Superman and Wonderwoman, physically better back-up then Nightwing.

[The Question]

im not sure ralph can survive agaisnt mongul either, unless the omics prove otherwise.



Ralph's form could probably cusion the blow.

[Arkady Rossovich]

There is a chance i might not be able to get 52.Since i think it may be slightly less exciting than Infinite Crisis.Will this series end up in TPB?I might buy it then.

[The Question]

Yeah. But not until at least two years from now. And it will probably be multiple TPBs. The series is going to be 52 issues long.

[Lackey]

check it out www.52thecomic.com

[Darthphere]

Bad site.

[cerealkiller182]

Will 52 only focus on Montoya, Question, Booster Gold, Steel, Elongated Man and Black Adam? Or will it show the whole DCU? I ask because while reading the new ish of Teen Titans, Kid Devil makes reference to his new transformation that happened while he was with the new Zatarra which must have happened during the missing year. Will they recap all that stuff too? Bruce and the Boy Wonders trip too?

[yenaled]

The whole DCU, those 6 and three others who havn't been shown yet are the main characters though who will be the main focus characters who will be followed the most.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm confused. How did they get a "new" Zatara? That was one guy's name, not a legacy identity or anything.

[Darthphere]

I'm confused. How did they get a "new" Zatara?


Its called sex.

[TheCorpulent1]

Zatanna had a kid? :confused:

[yenaled]

The new Zatara that was mentioned in Teen Titans hasn't been revealed yet, though people are saying he could be Zantanna's and John Constantine son.

Looks like pregnacy was a important time in the missing year.

[DBM]

The new Zatara that was mentioned in Teen Titans hasn't been revealed yet, though people are saying he could be Zantanna's and John Constantine son.

Looks like pregnacy was a important time in the missing year.

Zantanna and Constantine's kid? Does he have to include the word "ydoolb" in ever spell?

[Darthphere]

Zantanna and Constantine's kid? Does he have to include the word "ydoolb" in ever spell?


Superboy punched another wall.

[yenaled]

Zantanna and Constantine's kid? Does he have to include the word "ydoolb" in ever spell?

hahah

They are extra powerful if the spells end in "skcollob".

[TheCorpulent1]

I doubt Constantine will be involved at all, given that DC's decreed the Vertigo titles won't spill over into the mainstream DC universe. Constantine's still got Hellblazer going, so he's kind of off-limits, as I understand it.

[Nightwing]

The new Zatara that was mentioned in Teen Titans hasn't been revealed yet, though people are saying he could be Zantanna's and John Constantine son.

Looks like pregnacy was a important time in the missing year.

Actually, he has. In the beginning of Teen Titans #34 he's one of the heroes there talking with Mia/Speedy, while Hawk is arguing with Aquagirl.

[yenaled]

I mean his history hasn't been revealed.

[The Question]

I doubt Constantine will be involved at all, given that DC's decreed the Vertigo titles won't spill over into the mainstream DC universe. Constantine's still got Hellblazer going, so he's kind of off-limits, as I understand it.


Well, from what I understand, the effects of Virtigo titles can spill over as long as the characters don't. At least, that's the case with John. I think mentioning his name would be okay, as long as he didn't show up for father/son bonding, or whatever his vague equivalent is.

[Spider-Man™]

I can't wait for this book, aside from Civil War which is just great reading. 52 seems to be another event in comics i get wait to get my hands on.

[cerealkiller182]

The new Zatara that was mentioned in Teen Titans hasn't been revealed yet, though people are saying he could be Zantanna's and John Constantine son.

Looks like pregnacy was a important time in the missing year.

I dont think Zatara is Zatanna's son. When was she pregnant? How'd she get a teenager in a year? I could possibly be a nephew, brother (long lost or some such), cousin, or simply an apprentice.

[The Question]

She could have had the kid a while ago. If memory serves, she and John Constantine are on again/off again lovers, and they had a streatch where they were doing it regularly during their respective 80s punk rocker phases. Could have gotten pregnant in the 80s, gave the kid up for adoption, and went on with her life.

[Dr. Mid-Nite]

Actually, he has. In the beginning of Teen Titans #34 he's one of the heroes there talking with Mia/Speedy, while Hawk is arguing with Aquagirl.

Hey Bats, do you think Aquagirl should join the team?





Also...........ONE MORE DAY TILL 52!!!!!!!

[Nightwing]

I mean his history hasn't been revealed.

You made it sound like he hasn't been shown yet. Either way, I'm looking forward to some more backround information on him.

Hey Bats, do you think Aquagirl should join the team?

Possibly. There's a chance she may end up being on the new East team, not to mention, she was in Titans Tomorrow where she was revealed to be friends with Ravager and had been part of the current team for quite some time. If she does, I'd like to see more out of the character then we do when she's with Aquaman, I heard Geoff had plans for her.

[TheCorpulent1]

I dont think Zatara is Zatanna's son. When was she pregnant? How'd she get a teenager in a year? I could possibly be a nephew, brother (long lost or some such), cousin, or simply an apprentice.
Well, stranger things have happened where magic's concerned. Maybe she pulled him through a dimensional rift from 15 years in the future or something. Crazy magicians.

[MaskedManJRK]

I dont think Zatara is Zatanna's son. When was she pregnant? How'd she get a teenager in a year? I could possibly be a nephew, brother (long lost or some such), cousin, or simply an apprentice.

Wait, is it a guy or a girl?

Because of it's a girl, then Zatara's most likely Z's apprentice from Seven Soldiers.

If it's a guy...why? I thought Seven Soldiers was supposed to be a big part of the 52 series--and Grant Morrison's heavily involved in it.

Hopefully this is cleared up in 52. :o

[drastic_quench]

It's a dude.

[yenaled]

52 tease for anyone unsure about picking it up or not getting comics today (http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/52_1tease.html).

[ToddIsDead]

I'm not going to get to the comic shop until the weekend, so this'll be the last time I stop in here for a few days. I can't wait until I get to read it, it looks so good.

[Darthphere]

I went today and these *****es havent gotten their comics yet.

[ToddIsDead]

LOL. That sucks.

[Darthphere]

LOL. That sucks.


Quiet.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[cerealkiller182]

52 tease for anyone unsure about picking it up or not getting comics today (http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/52_1tease.html).

SPOILER


Thats so like Question to mess with the batsignal. You think Steel was trying to make his sister quit, or did she get pissed when he tried to order her around? Booster reminds me of Kinear from Mystery Men. His uniform is turning out like the NASCAR ones.

[drastic_quench]

I thought that was Steel's niece? Anyways he's definitely pulling a Mr. Miagi with her. Build your own armor; wax on wax off.

[Nightwing]

Quiet.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Unfortunately, you aren't the only one.

[Dr. Mid-Nite]

Unfortunately, you aren't the only one.

Yeah, my shop told me they didn't have it in stock. Which is bull**** cause that has never happend before. So I have to wait till next week to get my hands on issue #1. :mad: :(

[Dr. Mid-Nite]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/52_6.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/52_1.jpg


http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/52_3.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/52_4.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/52/52_5.jpg


:eek: :eek:

[Pksoze]

Booster Gold is such a putz.

[hippie_hunter]

The first issue kicked ass, especially Booster Gold and the Question

[cerealkiller182]

I thought that was Steel's niece? Anyways he's definitely pulling a Mr. Miagi with her. Build your own armor; wax on wax off.

I'm not sure myself. I just made a guess. I only remember her from the S:TAS, if the young girl in the cartoon is the same girl that is.

[Pksoze]

I'm not sure myself. I just made a guess. I only remember her from the S:TAS, if the young girl in the cartoon is the same girl that is.

She's his niece.

[nightstreak]

This issue kicked ASS!

[Tamanon]

I'm not sure myself. I just made a guess. I only remember her from the S:TAS, if the young girl in the cartoon is the same girl that is.

I remember his niece being involved in the old JLA issues, the Morrison run I think. I didn't see her get the armor yet, but I haven't caught up on everything old yet.

Best part of the issue for me was

Bart saying "Yeah, Wally's doing fine. He and Linda are just taking some time away"

Good to hear:)

[Mister J]

I really enjoyed Week One. Black Adam is so badass and that bit with The Question was great. This whole run should be good.

[Pksoze]

I really enjoyed Week One. Black Adam is so badass and that bit with The Question was great. This whole run should be good.


Yeah that Black Adam bit was very cool.

[GoldenAgeHero]

i wonder why did questionj say are you ready? (rhetorically speaking to montoya) as he poited the question signal at her window...hmm? and yes over all this was a great issue im glad ralph isnt going to kill himself.

[Manic]

Is anyone else bothered that Steel didn't think his neice had earned the right to join a team that would train her?

Anyway, I though everything else was gold. Especially Booster Gold. Because even heroes whore themselves out to mega corporations. ;)

[Darthphere]

Steel did come off like an *******. But you gotta realize hes poured his heart and soul into the Steel persona. Odd though, since she seemed pretty adept considering her appearance in Superman/Batman #5.

[deathshead2]

i wonder why did questionj say are you ready? (rhetorically speaking to montoya) as he poited the question signal at her window...hmm? and yes over all this was a great issue im glad ralph isnt going to kill himself.I think he was talking to us like breaking the forth wall I think he has done that before? But he could have just been talking to mintoya. And steel and question better not die or DC WILL PAY:mad:

[deathshead2]

Is anyone else bothered that Steel didn't think his neice had earned the right to join a team that would train her?

Anyway, I though everything else was gold. Especially Booster Gold. Because even heroes whore themselves out to mega corporations. ;)That wasn't his problem it was that she was more willing to leave and join a team then wait and help everyone.Which is much more important then joining a team.

[Manic]

That wasn't his problem it was that she was more willing to leave and join a team then wait and help everyone.Which is much more important then joining a team.
But she was joining the team because they help people. Okay, there was also the whole thing about her wanting the glory, but that was kinda overshadowed by a certain superhero wearing a beer logo on his costume. But by destroying her suit, Steel basically made sure she couldn't help people as much, either way.

[BrianWilly]

Steel's always been incredibly overprotective of Natasha. I mean, he originally made her that armor as a contingency for whenever he wasn't around anymore, not really as a permanent hero identity. I agree that he was being a dick, though considering that the world almost ended he's probably on full den mother mode. Also considering what just happened to Superboy, maybe John's not so keen on Natasha being his successor anymore.

Anyway, my thoughts on this issue from the B/T thread:
52 Week One
Very nice start. Good to see the aftereffects of the Crisis playing out in full scale here...the world is saved and the disaster averted, and yet the story goes on.

What's best were the little moments. Bart talking about Wally's twins. Wonder Girl being comforted by Empress. Themyscira House being replaced by Kahndaq.

At first I thought it was strange that Nightwing was there with the rest of the heroes considering he's supposed to be with Batman on their little love cruise...I mean, uh, training sabbatical:O. But then I realize, it's probably Jason Todd! Loopholes yay! What's harder to explain is why the heck Mera is with Aquaman. Isn't she supposed to be missing after Atlantis got blowed up or something? Also, why the poop is Green Arrow without his mask in front of all these reporters?

But anyway, looking forward to week 2. They're bragging that they're going to cram every single member of the DCU into this series...after only one week, I believe them.

(9 out of 10)

[supes_el]

Great issue...Im glas Steel stuck up for Superboy...also anyone catch Siegel St. and Shuster Rd.? ahahah :supes:

Anyway, it was good to see Bart talk about Wally, good to see that Black Adam is still a badass, and good to lighten the mood with Booster. The scene where:
Ralph has a gun in his mouth was shocking and sad...

Out of all the characters the book is concentrating on, I find Montoya the least enjoyable...i am fond of Steel / Booster / Black Adam though :)

thanx for reading!

Wonder Girl being comforted by Empress.
Eh? Did I miss something...WG is in the one panel where they are all gathering with Gar and a lady. If that lady is Empress (I dont know who Empress is) what is the significance of her and WG meeting?

[GoldenAgeHero]

is natasha a genius? can she build herown armor?

[Jono87]

But by destroying her suit, Steel basically made sure she couldn't help people as much, either way.

Not true. Remember he said that there had been others who were doing more with less.

And I agree with the thought that Question's final "Are you ready?" was breaking the fourth wall.

[Assassin]

no, and if she has the internet, she can prob get it from wikipedia, if not prob google has a blue print

[BrianWilly]

Eh? Did I miss something...WG is in the one panel where they are all gathering with Gar and a lady. If that lady is Empress (I dont know who Empress is) what is the significance of her and WG meeting?Empress was one of Cassie's best friends back from Young Justice. She hasn't been in the superhero scene for quite some time, but has been making appearances throughout Infinite Crisis in the Day of Vengeance and Villains United specials.

[GoldenAgeHero]

looking back at that page,theres no red tornado in sight..i really think he's supernova.

[Nightwing]

Eh? Did I miss something...WG is in the one panel where they are all gathering with Gar and a lady. If that lady is Empress (I dont know who Empress is) what is the significance of her and WG meeting?

Here's a picture, she was part of the Young Justice team along with Cassie.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7c/Empress_(comics).png

[Mister J]

Great issue...Im glas Steel stuck up for Superboy...also anyone catch Siegel St. and Shuster Rd.? ahahah :supes:

That was a nice tribute. There was also a Fleischer Bros. sign on a bus and a Hot Dididogs (I imagine for Dan Didio) stand.

[nite-owl]

I just read issue 1, it kicked f**king ass.

[Wargod]

looking back at that page,theres no red tornado in sight..i really think he's supernova.

he is supposed to be missing with the rest of Donna Troy's group. Why do you still think that Red Tornado is Supernova ?
You have to remember that "52" is happenning little time after the end of Infinite Crisis. So in order to transform him in some sort of "government war machine", it would be necessary to find him (or the rest of him), and them rebuild him and change his whole set of powers.
I strongly believe that Supernova has some sort of relation with Superman, and that he is in fact The Eradicator ( if i'm not wrong the Omac's took him month's ago).

[yenaled]

Just read through the first issue, naturally loving Booster Gold. This is going to be so good.

[The Question]

Here's a picture, she was part of the Young Justice team along with Cassie.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7c/Empress_(comics).png


*sigh* I miss those days. :(

[Nightwing]

*sigh* I miss those days. :(

The book was really just a "teenaged" book, which is why I think it did so well considering alot of people who read the book were teenagers and could relate to them on some terms. I miss the title as well, I remember when I heard the last issue was on sale and then it was that Young Justice/Teen Titans team up in which Donna Troy died. Don't get me wrong, I'm loving Teen Titans and the way Johns is writing them, I have since issue #1 debuted. I just wish some of those elements from the YJ days were used again, but that's unlikely I know due to it being OYL and Robin and company are getting older. Especially with the current teams status, and now Superboy's death. Still, wishful thinking is always the way to go.

Empress was an interesting character, I wish they had used her more often. Who knows, maybe she could be brought back for Titans East which I think would be grand.

[Tropico]

The first issue was pretty good, I hate that Booster is back to his jerk status, though. Don't tell me the shadowed figured at the end is the Monitor?:S

Yo, Leag, you see who WASN'T dead?:D

[cerealkiller182]

During the establishing shot of the memorial where all the heroes are gathered there is a tall red person with a T on his chest? Is that Red Tornado?

Pretty fun interesting book. I'm looking forward to Question/Montoya dynamic which there seems will be. I cant wait to see more Ralph and Steel, especially Steel in action.

I'm kinda mad that his niece was grounded (so to speak). She would have been good on the Titans. She kinda seems like an obvious choice to put on their seeing as she is Steel's "Robin/Suberboy/Wondergirl" apprentice/sidekick character.

I'm interested to see where the book takes Black Adam.

[yenaled]

The dude with the T is Tasmanian Devil.

[cerealkiller182]

The dude with the T is Tasmanian Devil.

Ok thanks. I never heard of him.

[Purple Man]

I think he was talking to us like breaking the forth wall I think he has done that before? But he could have just been talking to mintoya. And steel and question better not die or DC WILL PAY:mad:

I didn't really make that connection when I first read that issue, but I can bet dollars to donuts that it was implied. Also more dollars to donuts that it was Grant Morrisons idea. He likes to take a sledgehammer to the fourth wall.

[MaskedManJRK]

Eh, it was alright. Really, if you hadn't heard anything nor read any of the previews, you would have been shocked and amazed, but since I did both, I was practically telling them what's going to happen next. :o

Hope the next issue's better. :):up:

[Dope Nose]

from Newsarama's August preview -

It’s the death you never expected in WEEK 15, featuring art by Shawn Moll & Tom Nguyen! Plus, the origin of Metamorpho by Waid & Eric Powell

http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=52cv15solicit3sp.jpg

bah!

[Darthphere]

Hey guys, werent they going to do a history of the DCu thing as a back story on this book?

[jim lee's bat]

Is that supernova in the reflection?

[Dope Nose]

yep

[GoldenAgeHero]

he is supposed to be missing with the rest of Donna Troy's group. Why do you still think that Red Tornado is Supernova ? You have to remember that "52" is happenning little time after the end of Infinite Crisis. So in order to transform him in some sort of "government war machine", it would be necessary to find him (or the rest of him), and them rebuild him and change his whole set of powers.I strongly believe that Supernova has some sort of relation with Superman, and that he is in fact The Eradicator ( if i'm not wrong the Omac's took him month's ago).


52 spans an entire year in the DCU, theres plenty of time to get his parts and "revamp him" into supernova. and how does superman have any relation to supernova? and its not even fact for him to be eradicator since there isnt any evidence to support what you claim is fact.plus donna's team did comeback from space, read TT#34.

i seriously hope thats not booster's goggles, if so then he'll join his friend.

[GoldenAgeHero]

damn double post!

[Anubis]

Well, they did kidnap the Eradicator, and they never did say what happened to him after that, and the OMACS did work for the government at the time. So, I'd have to say that guessing that the Eradicator being Supernova has more credence than guessing that it would be Red Tornado. Of course, it could be Ambush Bug for all we know.

[Tamanon]

Oh, btw, take a closer look at the hooded figures on the first August issue.

Look who's still alive....

Zauriel!

Looks like it's people who have been brought back to life in the past there.....creepy.

[Wargod]

52 spans an entire year in the DCU, theres plenty of time to get his parts and "revamp him" into supernova. and how does superman have any relation to supernova? and its not even fact for him to be eradicator since there isnt any evidence to support what you claim is fact.plus donna's team did comeback from space, read TT#34.

i seriously hope thats not booster's goggles, if so then he'll join his friend.



Supernova is supposed to appear between week 10, so is not so much time to find and rebuild him.
Also TT #34 is a OYL issue, it's easy to assume that most of them came back, but in "52" most of them are missing.
I strongly believe that Supernova is somehow related to Superman simply because if i'm not wrong in the cover of week 10 the image is of Supernova saving Clark. They would not put Clark in the cover with Supernova ( and we have to remember that it is his debut ) if it wasn't something relevant. Also Dc would not name a character SUPER without having any relation with Superman.

[BrianWilly]

Yeah, these covers http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Aug06/solicitations.html are crazy awesome.

In the resurrected people cover, who's the guy second from the left? I recognize everyone except him.

[Dope Nose]

Metamorpho maybe?

[GoldenAgeHero]

Supernova is supposed to appear between week 10, so is not so much time to find and rebuild him.
Also TT #34 is a OYL issue, it's easy to assume that most of them came back, but in "52" most of them are missing.
I strongly believe that Supernova is somehow related to Superman simply because if i'm not wrong in the cover of week 10 the image is of Supernova saving Clark. They would not put Clark in the cover with Supernova ( and we have to remember that it is his debut ) if it wasn't something relevant. Also Dc would not name a character SUPER without having any relation with Superman.



your kidding me right!? thats the funniest thing ever. omg your Supernova...that must mean your related to Superman! wow!...lmao.

the cover could be telling a different story such ..i dunno...supernova being metropolis's new hero..and that clark kent whom we all know is superman is now replaced by him.

and week 10 doesnt really mean anything, during a recent jla arc Red tornado got destroyed batman rebuilt him in what 2 issues.

[GoldenAgeHero]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Aug06/pre/52_Cv14_solicit.jpg


i wonder what happen to natasha..quits?

[yenaled]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Aug06/pre/52_Cv13_solicit.jpg

Zauriel :D

[Purple Man]

I wonder what is up with that strange church.

Also Steel looks like he has the same smart skin that Bulleteer has.

[Darthphere]

I wonder what is up with that strange church.


Im thinking its more symbolic than anything.

[Dope Nose]

i wonder what happen to natasha..quits?

I believe John Henry fires her, or at the very least forbids her from wearing the armor.

[Mister J]

I believe John Henry fires her, or at the very least forbids her from wearing the armor.
Well, he basically stripped her of the armor in this past issue, telling her to build her own. Maybe she decides her attitude is fine and says to hell with it all. I suppose he could just be reflecting on his decision and thinking maybe he's being too hard on her.

[Nightwing]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Aug06/pre/52_Cv16_solicit.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Aug06/pre/52_Cv17_solicit.jpg

[GoldenAgeHero]

for some odd reason i never liked lobo.

[Nightwing]

The Question and Montoya cover looks interesting, especially with Black Adam and the woman beside him whose name is Isis.

I read issue #1, so far it's off to a great start. Seeing how everything unfolds will be worth collecting all the issues every week.

[Purple Man]

Who is the other white skinned guy in the church picture.

Is there any significance to the flowers in the Question/Montoya picture?

What is up with the gun that she is holding?

What is up with Steels skin?

We've only gotten past the first issue and I'm already all giddy.

[Nightwing]

Who is the other white skinned guy in the church picture.

Metamorpho seems like a potential candidate, all the others Hal, Oliver, and Zauriel are who've been in a state of death situation. Metamorpho was as well, when his father in law Simon Pegg killed him. It was The Outsiders, who ended up restoring him.

Is there any significance to the flowers in the Question/Montoya picture?

I'm sure it's just for show, to add to the cover. Black Adam and Isis already add enough to it. We'll just have to wait and see.

What is up with the gun that she is holding?

Perhaps it's something she ends up finding on her journey with Question, which of course she ends up using. It looks to be a type of gun with some sord of capability...

[Wargod]

your kidding me right!? thats the funniest thing ever. omg your Supernova...that must mean your related to Superman! wow!...lmao.

the cover could be telling a different story such ..i dunno...supernova being metropolis's new hero..and that clark kent whom we all know is superman is now replaced by him.

and week 10 doesnt really mean anything, during a recent jla arc Red tornado got destroyed batman rebuilt him in what 2 issues.

I was kidding about Superman and Supernova thing...
But i still think that Superman and Supernova are related because of the cover of week 10 and because Eradicator mke much more sense than Red Tornado. Looking at the big picture Supernova being a rebuilt Red Tornado just don't make any sense.

[Hawkeye]

Metamorpho seems like a potential candidate, all the others Hal, Oliver, and Zauriel are who've been in a state of death situation. Metamorpho was as well, when his father in law Simon Pegg killed him. It was The Outsiders, who ended up restoring him.



I'm sure it's just for show, to add to the cover. Black Adam and Isis already add enough to it. We'll just have to wait and see.



Perhaps it's something she ends up finding on her journey with Question, which of course she ends up using. It looks to be a type of gun with some sord of capability...

I was wondering about them also, thanks for answering Bats. :hulk: :up:

[Anubis]

for some odd reason i never liked lobo.

Of course not, you don't like cool characters.

[ToddIsDead]

I finally read issue one, and it was really good. This series is going to be awesome. And that Lobo cover just makes me all giddy.

[yenaled]

The only thing I have agains tthe other guy being Metamorpho is that he doesn't have the marks round his eyes that that character does and he doesn't have a white hand. It's not a very !Metamorhp-esque" pose.

[Nightwing]

The only thing I have agains tthe other guy being Metamorpho is that he doesn't have the marks round his eyes that that character does and he doesn't have a white hand. It's not a very !Metamorhp-esque" pose.

You have a point. Though he seems to have some sord cracked lines on his neck and faces, almost like a statue. He even resembles one, not to mention all the heroes there have met death's door. So it might very well be someone who has as well, considering this is the cover to the issue of Sue Dibny's resurrection.

[Dope Nose]

The only thing I have agains tthe other guy being Metamorpho is that he doesn't have the marks round his eyes that that character does

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/70/Metamorpho_OYL.jpg/248px-Metamorpho_OYL.jpg

[Nightwing]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Aug06/pre/52_Cv17_solicit.jpg




Was I the only one to realize that what Lobo is holding could possibly be Batman's cowl?

[Dope Nose]

could be, but what does Lobo have to do with Batman?

[The Flash!]

Was I the only one to realize that what Lobo is holding could possibly be Batman's cowl?

Great theory, it certainly look that way don't it? :confused: Also, it appears that he's got Wonder Woman's sword also. Now that's weird and cool! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

And I also think this "mystery character" with Ollie and the others, could be Metamorpho. :up:

[Tropico]

The only thing I have agains tthe other guy being Metamorpho is that he doesn't have the marks round his eyes that that character does and he doesn't have a white hand. It's not a very !Metamorhp-esque" pose.

SHIFT is the one that originally had that look. Metamorpho's "look" is more like the one the robed figure has. We'll have to see what happened to make Metamorpho adopt Shift's look. Considering one of the 52 issues has Metamorpho's origin I believe we might get just that.

[Dope Nose]

wow, another great catch. you guys rock.

[Nightwing]

could be, but what does Lobo have to do with Batman?

Well, as the Geoff Johns and the others working on the book have said. "It's 52, anything can happen." We'll just have to keep reading in order to find out, though you do have to ask yourself what he'd want with the cowl.

Great theory, it certainly look that way don't it? :confused: Also, it appears that he's got Wonder Woman's sword also. Now that's weird and cool! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

And I also think this "mystery character" with Ollie and the others, could be Metamorpho. :up:

Yes it does, yes it "appears" that he is infact supporting it under his left arm. Being the bounty hunter that he is, he's probably doing a bit of collecting of his own.

[marcofthebeast]

The unknown guy in the robe might be Jason Todd? But i wouldn't think he would hang out with the rest of those dudes

[Dope Nose]

well, he did die and then come back to life like the others.

[Tamanon]

The only other option that I've seen presented besides Metamorpho is Jason Todd, I dunno.....guess we'll find out, and I totally assume it's a symbolic cover. They won't go all Illuminati on us:P

[Nightwing]

The unknown guy in the robe might be Jason Todd? But i wouldn't think he would hang out with the rest of those dudes

I doubt that would be Jason under the robe, along with his participation with the likes of Hal or Green Arrow. Not mention the fact that the description of the issue says it's Ralph's ex-teamates, who are helping him.

[Nightwing]

The only other option that I've seen presented besides Metamorpho is Jason Todd, I dunno.....guess we'll find out, and I totally assume it's a symbolic cover. They won't go all Illuminati on us:P

Like I said before, I don't think Jason would take part in something like that. Metamorpho still remains a close eye that should be kept upon, another person that came to mind is Captain Atom. Considering he and Ralph worked together in their days with the Super Buddies.

[TheCorpulent1]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Aug06/pre/52_Cv14_solicit.jpg


i wonder what happen to natasha..quits?
Steel took her armor away in the first issue of 52. I'm more concerned with why John Henry himself is apparently made of metal all of a sudden.

[Anubis]

That would be pretty cool if he had some sort of liquid metal armor thing going on that conforms to his skin.

[Fledermaus]

Maybe Steel is the character who gets superpowers.

[Anubis]

It's possible.

[GoldenAgeHero]

I'll hate that. I like how the show a black male whos brilliant and can make his own technology. i wouldnt mind the skin armor,tho. but couldnt the cover be symbolic tho.

[Lackey]

I'll hate that. I like how the show a black male whos brilliant and can make his own technology.

You got Mr. Terrific for that.





poor GAH is losing his black male role models :(

[Purple Man]

Am I the only one that noticed when the Question asks "Are you ready?" his hair extends past the border of the panel?

The rest of the book keeps all images within their appropriate panels. I think this proves that they were going for a breaking the fourth wall approach for this issues final panel.

[cerealkiller182]

^^^I kinda hope that they dont break the fourth wall unless the character is completly nuts like Deadpool over at Marvel. I really hope it alludes to something bigger between himself and Montoya. Although, I suppose if anyone would break the fourth wall it would either Question (or Creeper).

[WonderWoman]

Hi...Can anyone explain to me what happend in issue 1? I haven't gotten my copy yet, thanks!

[SonOfCthulhu]

My reaction to Issue #1

I wasn't "excited" about the book, but I did want to see where they would go. It's definitely better than the old Marvel Comics Presents from the 90's that had middle tier hero stories (and Wolverine). What differentiates it is the solidness of having a single writing team for the whole book.

Not everything works in it though. My take on it is that the Steel and Black Adam stories are going to be very good. Booster is going in an intriguing direction, but he has lost too much humanity/humility post IC to be a sympathetic character. He's back to the Booster from his original series, which didn't last too long. Ralph and Montoya's stories don't get enough page count to rate good or bad. The best and most hopeful thing for me is the Question showing up at the end. His old mag was great stuff. Sadly, he suffers from lack of page count as well.

The trouble I foresee is will the mag give equal time each issue to all six characters? They don't seem to have connecting story arcs currently. Yet the book is traveling in real time. This will be very tricky to pull off and pull off with a good story. If it starts to breakdown, will DC abandon the concept in the months ahead and give us a whole mag dedicated to one character? Or was 52 planned to focus on different characters depending on which week it comes out?

I'm in for a few more issues. The Question ranks that much.

[GoldenAgeHero]

just read issue 52,it great. am i the only one just finding out montoya is a lesbian?

[SonOfCthulhu]

52 #2

<slight spoilers>
Pros: More of the Question. Anything that gives him exposure is a great thing. Always been a favorite character of mine and so far they are using him very effectively here. Dibney's story is being given enough room to grow. We now know enough to make some guesses about the upcoming 52 cover with the church of the "upside-down superman symbol" and why those particular heroes are shown. Also on a good note is the expanding mystery of vanishing mad scientists.

Cons: NO Black Adam. No Steel. I guess they were both asleep this week in DC continuity. I agree that it would be difficult to cram all this into one book at the smallish page count they have it at, but the answer is not to start adding in another "History of the DC Universe". Every time DC has a major series that retcons vast portions of their character's timelines, they feel the need to laboriously explain who is in and who is out. This should be saved for its own book (like it was after Legends) instead of burning up four pages in a book that's already too short.

Meh: Booster. The Skeets issue is interesting but not really Earth shattering. I've really only liked Booster when he was teamed with Beetle (and don't get me started on what kind of opportunity DC missed there) because as a solo hero he always seemed shallow, self-serving and...well...big, dumb jock-ish. Now we have Booster relying on Skeeter-Boi's memory for big events so he can jump in and save the day. Booster couldn't be troubled to read the papers himself or do his own research. Skeets even mentions someone tampering with the time stream, yet here Booster is altering events in the past so he can look like a hero. If anything Booster's meddling in current affairs may be what's causing Skeets to come up with the wrong info from the future.

[mathhater]

The Question and Montoya cover looks interesting, especially with Black Adam and the woman beside him whose name is Isis.

I read issue #1, so far it's off to a great start. Seeing how everything unfolds will be worth collecting all the issues every week.

Isis?...So is this the character that Wizard hinted at a few months back?...an already established character making their first appearance in the DCU?
Because I've never seen her in comics before...but I know she had a tv series back in the day.

[BrianWilly]

She has appeared in comics before, and is actually a DC comic book character from way back in the day. She first appeared in, of all things, Captain Marvel's own book;). Even her TV series was very linked to Captain Marvel's show.

[Assassin]

like i said lol montoya is batwoman and question is going to train her :p

[mathhater]

She has appeared in comics before, and is actually a DC comic book character from way back in the day. She first appeared in, of all things, Captain Marvel's own book;). Even her TV series was very linked to Captain Marvel's show.

Thanks for the info. So I guess we're still waiting on this pre-established character?...wonder who it is??

[yenaled]

I nearly shat my pants in glee over Will Magnus being in the comic.

[TheCorpulent1]

just read issue 52,it great. am i the only one just finding out montoya is a lesbian?
Probably. I guess you stuck your head in the sand and let the greatness of Gotham Central pass you by, huh? :(

[SonOfCthulhu]

Anyone want to fill me in on why the Metal Men "don't work" anymore?

[Darthphere]

Ok, I know this is like 52 issues long but anyone else feel this book is moving a bit too slow. Think of it this way, think of everything you can get done in a week.