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Mr. Sinister05
04-09-2006, 01:12 AM
Which storyline would you rather see pursued eventually and why?

lordofthenerds
04-09-2006, 02:31 PM
A mix between the two because they both would be great to see on screen.

L0ngsh0t
04-09-2006, 03:38 PM
you can't mix age of apacolypse and days of future past, two different universes

days of future past is one of the altime great story archs in xmen

rjb182
04-09-2006, 04:38 PM
For movie purposes? Days of Future Past all the way. It strikes me as more realistic-- I'm not sure Apocalypse would translate well to the silver screen.

X-Maniac
04-09-2006, 05:55 PM
If X3 includes Sentinels, then I would go for Age of Apocalypse but have it take elements of Days of Future Past...

L0ngsh0t
04-09-2006, 10:45 PM
impossible to make age of apacolypse right now...

for one there are two many characters that are assumed you know who they are in real life, to show the stark difference in the alternate universe that the movies havent even adressed yet, like havok gambit and sinsiter and omega red, and obviously apacolypse

2..to make that moive, realisticly your talking a minimum of 250 million budget, if spiderman 3 is being made for 250 AoA is looking at 300 which would make it the most expensive movie ever, and the x franchise has not proven worthy of that kind of budget they have dominated the mid-big budget of 100 million doubling up both movies, but they havent grossed 300 nor 250 yet so it would be tough to justify it

and third, to go from the real world setting that bryan singer sacrifced the truencies of the comic book to do so, and dive right in to the not able to explain in a movie world of the age of apacolypse, i just don't think this movie is possible

besides days of future past kicks ass so much more then AoA does, Cable, Bishop, to of the coolest outlaws ever

War Lord
04-09-2006, 10:47 PM
What is the Days of Future past storyline?

The Apocalypse
04-09-2006, 10:55 PM
I've heard of it but never really read to much into it. I heard it was good. I'd take what everI heard about it and I'd say I rather see that made into a movie then AoA. Maybe Marvel can put AoA into an animated movie like they did The Avengers.

L0ngsh0t
04-09-2006, 11:15 PM
yeah an AoA TAS could be really cool, or yeah like a movie too

FieryBalrog
04-09-2006, 11:26 PM
I wouldn't like to see either. The X-men are complicated enough without throwing time travel/alternate realities into the movies as it is, which will inevitably become a movie about time travel, not the X-men. It'll just be Back to the Future with leather.

I wouldnt mind seeing Apocalypse but no AoA.

Cyclops
04-10-2006, 12:16 AM
Both would translate poorly to the big screen.

WorthyStevens
04-10-2006, 12:22 AM
I'd think Fall of the Mutants would be a more ideal choice for the big screen in place of AOA.

Mr. Sinister05
04-10-2006, 12:30 AM
The movie wouldn't follow the storylines exactly. It would just take aspects from either/or.

If I had to choose between the 2, I'd choose Days of Future Past without the time travel. It would be a futuristic end to this particular saga.

Cyclops
04-10-2006, 12:39 AM
You'd want to end a superhero franchise on such a downer note?

L0ngsh0t
04-10-2006, 12:39 AM
wait a second thoug, the time travel was the best part about days of future past, there is no futures past without time travel...its one of the coolest stories xmen has made

War Lord
04-10-2006, 01:10 AM
wait a second thoug, the time travel was the best part about days of future past, there is no futures past without time travel...its one of the coolest stories xmen has made

For the purpose of a single movie, movie goers would never go for time travel in any form.

Anton Oksehud
04-10-2006, 02:39 AM
OOohhh, Days of future past.......

Coolest storyline ever!

War Lord
04-10-2006, 02:41 AM
OOohhh, Days of future past.......

Coolest storyline ever!

Not for a movie.

psylockolussus
04-10-2006, 11:50 AM
Age of apocalypse, look at X-Men Legends II it's pretty decent

Days of Future past is too confusing.

Mr. Sinister05
04-10-2006, 12:40 PM
You'd want to end a superhero franchise on such a downer note?

It would definitely be non-formulaic and could work in many ways.
So, yes, I'd be open to the possibility.

L0ngsh0t
04-10-2006, 01:04 PM
Age of apocalypse, look at X-Men Legends II it's pretty decent

Days of Future past is too confusing.


Xmen legends 2 isn't AoA.....AoA is set in a parralell universe, for the people who don't think time travel would work for DOFP then that movie wouldn't work ether, cause like i said before the whole story behind days of future past, is time travel, what is the story with out it....plus you can bring cable and bishop in with time travel two of the coolest characters ever

icemancuckoos
04-13-2006, 10:25 AM
Even though I love Age of Apocalypse I would prefer Days of Future Past cause then we get to see Rachel Summers one of my favorite X-charaters

FieryBalrog
04-13-2006, 07:38 PM
If DoFP is made it will have to be about time travel, not the X-men. Which kills the point of making it an X-men movie.

The main idea of any X-men movie has to be mutants and their place first and foremost. DoFP is about mutancy but on the big screen time travel will easily overshadow it.

Anyways I dont think realistically we'd ever get a DoFP story on the big screen. The Danger Room scene (according to Premiere) is supposed to be a nod to DoFP and I think thats the closest we'll get.

Oh and Sen. Kelly is dead.

DemonicAngel
04-13-2006, 11:38 PM
I think apocalypse would be kick @$$ if done right. Take out all the egyptian background and bs and make him a regular mutant though. I know that is a big part of his background but for story purposes it just wouldnt fit. Make him look like he does in X-Men Legends II though cause I like that look, kind of darker. I cant stand time travel stuff cause no one knows what the hell is goin' on, ya know.

Cyclops
04-14-2006, 12:11 AM
http://www.creativescreenwriting.com/csdaily/csdart/images/2004-08-August/Back%20to%20the%20Future%20-%20Doc%20and%20Marty%20(300w).jpg

"Marty! You've got to come with me!"
"Aww, Doc, what is it now?"
"Sentinels have conquered the world and are destroying all of mutantkind!"
"But Doc, we destroyed the Delorean and..."
"Your kids, Marty! Your kids are the ones who design the Sentinels! We've got to stop them before it's too late!"

Abaddon
04-14-2006, 12:16 AM
Its nice how people like to ignore the precedents established in the previous films involving mutants in the real world.

TwilightPro101
04-14-2006, 01:03 AM
Days of the Future Past.

L0ngsh0t
04-14-2006, 04:08 AM
http://www.creativescreenwriting.com/csdaily/csdart/images/2004-08-August/Back%20to%20the%20Future%20-%20Doc%20and%20Marty%20(300w).jpg

"Marty! You've got to come with me!"
"Aww, Doc, what is it now?"
"Sentinels have conquered the world and are destroying all of mutantkind!"
"But Doc, we destroyed the Delorean and..."
"Your kids, Marty! Your kids are the ones who design the Sentinels! We've got to stop them before it's too late!"



if you guys honestly think days of future past is to complicated for movies, and fans, good luck trying to explain that everything that they have herd, and seen in the first three xmen movies dosen't take place, because in reality...

professor x is dead

magneto leads the xmen

this mutant who has been around for hundereds of thousands of years from egypt and who is immortal is runnning the universe

if you think that days of future past can't be done then good luck doing AoA i think both are fantastic stories, and i would like to see both, but i just don't see anyway possible AoA gets made into a movie

Holy spirit
04-14-2006, 07:45 PM
I still think days of future past would be a better non sequel movie. It would be proffessorX's vision or prophecy and his personal battle. But have him in a way turn round present time with the X-men to turn situations around to stop it coming. No time travel just Prophecy of the future. Very Holi Spirit inspired it sounds.

L0ngsh0t
04-15-2006, 04:07 AM
hmmm i suppose, i still think it would be less cool with out the time travel because that is what i like best about it, and you could introduce cable and bishop, it would be tough to give two of there coolest charters their proper due with out time travel but hey another xmen movie, is another xmen movie

X-Maniac
04-16-2006, 07:54 AM
Days of Future Past needn't follow the comics or cartoons word for word, frame for frame. Nothing else has done so in the movies.

You could say the same about the Phoenix saga: 'Ooh no, space travel and aliens and a woman devouring a star just wouldn't work". But they are making it work by taking the essence of the story - a mutant's evolution, and descent into insanity...

Days of Future Past could easily be adapted: Bishop is a cop who is a mutant able to absorb energy. That includes 'chronal energy' (= time). When he absorbs time energy, he has visions of the future, flashes of a terrible future in which he sees the gravestones of the X-Men and the dark terror of a Sentinels-run world. The nightmare visions gets stronger, he decides to find out who the names are on the gravestones in his visions, he teams up with the X-Men to stop present-day events triggering the future he has seen. No time travel, just horrible visions of the future and a race against time to stop that future happening.

X-Maniac
04-16-2006, 03:41 PM
^^ And that's obviously my idea. But they can use it as long as i could somehow be involved! Give me a chance, moviemakers :)

L0ngsh0t
04-16-2006, 09:03 PM
jesus christ man...you have given that some thought...

hmmm, i still like the fact that bishop feels guilty for hunting mutants for so long in the future...haha i dunno i am trying to find excusses to leave the time travel in there

it's not like time travel is a new topic unbeknowist to anyone who isnt an xmen fan, i think the general public will have an idea of what is going on, and be able to follow the movie, at least bishops story the should....you bring cable into it, then you got two different futures i think it could get difficult (i still am in favor of saying screw the general public as i always have been, but money is money)

i feel like it (time travel) will work, and i am completley biased about it too

but i suppose that (xmanic) would be the next best scenario

Cyclops
04-16-2006, 11:31 PM
Bishop was never a mutant hunter. So he doesn't feel guilty about being one.

L0ngsh0t
04-16-2006, 11:55 PM
well he was like a bounty hunter or something

Cyclops
04-16-2006, 11:58 PM
He was a police officer. And he's damn proud of that, as evidenced by the fact that he has to tell us that he's a cop in every other panel he's appeared in since Claremont started writing him with X-Treme.

X-Maniac
04-17-2006, 08:13 AM
jesus christ man...you have given that some thought...

hmmm, i still like the fact that bishop feels guilty for hunting mutants for so long in the future...haha i dunno i am trying to find excusses to leave the time travel in there

it's not like time travel is a new topic unbeknowist to anyone who isnt an xmen fan, i think the general public will have an idea of what is going on, and be able to follow the movie, at least bishops story the should....you bring cable into it, then you got two different futures i think it could get difficult (i still am in favor of saying screw the general public as i always have been, but money is money)

i feel like it (time travel) will work, and i am completley biased about it too

but i suppose that (xmanic) would be the next best scenario

The thing about time travel is that it then makes it too much like Terminator. Terminator has a cop, a bleak future run by machines, a cyborg.. and X-Men probably borrowed from it to create its Bishop and Cable characters. Just like the Alien movies popped up as the Brood in the comics.

For the sake of keeping it real, and making it less of a copy of Terminator, I'd rule out time travel from the start. Make it about visions of the future and it's more real - we all have bad dreams. In Bishop's case, they are precognitive because he is absorbing energy from time. Disruptions to time in the future (by machine technology of some kind) cause the release of tachyon energy which travels faster than the speed of light, therefore appears to travel backwards, and travels back to this time where it is absorbed by Bishop, who sees the future it is from.

L0ngsh0t
04-17-2006, 04:29 PM
yeah, i am sure that is the path they might choose, i am just a purist, and well, Xmaniac you know my stance on the movies so i won't get into it again..

i just think there shouldn't be anything wrong with doing it the way it was written, i think when novels and books are made into movies, and fabricated, or stretched the truth, they take heat, i dunno, i don't think comic book adaptation should be any different..

but i know they won't do that, so i do think that is a good way to go about telling bishops story

FieryBalrog
04-17-2006, 08:00 PM
But the essence of the Phoenix saga is a mutant whose powers have evolved to the point where she can't control her own power. The X-men watch one of their own become slowly corrupted. Thats relatively simple.

The essence of DoFP is a horrible future for mutants must be averted. I like your Bishop idea but wouldnt that just be a movie about stopping Sentinels? The best part of DoFP is that everybody really HAS died, it really IS a dystopian future...

L0ngsh0t
04-17-2006, 09:53 PM
thank you good sir

Hellion
04-17-2006, 10:41 PM
Neither...I don't think they could translate well.

L0ngsh0t
04-22-2006, 07:39 PM
time travel has been done before in movies though...i still am having a tough time believing that if 212 million people will pay to see X2 about mutants

200 million people will pay to see terminator

and Bad Boys 2 the atrocity could gross 150 million(there was no relation to this movie and time travel outside of the fact the people who made that movie litterally had to transport 20 million or so morons from the 40's who havent seen a movie like that yet to see that peice of ****)

Days of furture past will work

psylockolussus
04-19-2013, 01:51 AM
After Days of Future Past is released, I want FOX to have their take on Age of Apocalypse.