Heroes For Hire Creative Team Confirmed

[GNR]

http://www.pittsburghcomicon.com/pa...ents.htm#Friday (http://www.pittsburghcomicon.com/pages/events.htm#Friday)
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stor...04/09/index.htm (http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0604/09/index.htm)

Writers-Jimmy Palmiotti,Justin Gray
Artist-Billy Tucci

The site mentions the duo debuting a book out of Civil War in August.We already know the team for Punisher and Ant-Man,so H4H is definitely there book.

I'm really hyped for this now.Tucci was probably one of the better 90s artists.Adding to pull list now!

[PhotoJones]

what has tucci done besides "shi" in the last 10 years?

[Zaptoitnow]

lol thats just it, he has done nothign but shi for the last 10 years.

*laughs at how people will misread that* :p

[Roughneck]

I still need to know the cast before I sign up for this book.

If herc is there so am I.

[Darthphere]

The team really doesnt get me excited for anything really.

[Marcdachamp]

I really hope Cage is left in New Avengers. I'm sure he will be, but I love how Bendis writes him.

I've never been interested in Heroes for Hire, but I could definitly see some interesting stuff being done with the book's premise with Civil War going on.

[GNR]

I actuallt wanna see Cage in the H4H.Throw in big Herc and it's a party.

[KingOfDreams]

I wouldn't really mind if Cage quit the Avengers and joined HFH. It really wouldn't be a true HFH book without him and Iron Fist there anyway.

[Darthphere]

If I were cage id like to stay on New Avengers, it provides my woman and baby with some protection.

[Harlekin]

Your avatar kind of ruined a bit of Infinite Crisis #6 for me, but I'll forgive you.

The new H4H creative team isn't really making me all that excited.

[Darthphere]

Your avatar kind of ruined a bit of Infinite Crisis #6 for me, but I'll forgive you.

The new H4H creative team isn't really making me all that excited.


Sorry.:( and I agree.

[TheCorpulent1]

Aren't these the same guys who drove Hawkman so far into the ground that they needed to change the focus to Hawkgirl post-OYL? :o

[Darthphere]

Aren't these the same guys who drove Hawkman so far into the ground that they needed to change the focus to Hawkgirl post-OYL? :o


Pretty much.

[DBM]

I have hope for this.

Palmiotti and Gray are writing the current Daughters of the Dragon miniseries which I'm liking so far (though the art is a little wonky in places). And I've read that the new H4H series is going to come directly as a result of this series. I'm waiting to hear who the "Heroes" in Heroes for Hire are before I make any real decision though.

[32CAGE]

I really hope Cage is left in New Avengers. I'm sure he will be, but I love how Bendis writes him.

I've never been interested in Heroes for Hire, but I could definitly see some interesting stuff being done with the book's premise with Civil War going on.

As a big Cage fan, i too would like for him to remain in the New Avengers. I wouldn't be opposed to a full-time or occassional appearance in H4H but if he was limited to just one book I would prefer he stays with Bendis on New Avengers. Bendis writes the best Cage ever.

[Gambit8370]

The big reveal for me will be WHO is on the core team of H4H.

I've got that sinking feeling Clint Barton might be involved.

[Marcdachamp]

The big reveal for me will be WHO is on the core team of H4H.

I've got that sinking feeling Clint Barton might be involved.
Nah, he's gonna be a member of the FF. Mark my words.

[Gambit8370]

Nah, he's gonna be a member of the FF. Mark my words.
That is not even funny.

That's just ****ing stupid.

So what the point of this era in comics anyway...?

To take everything a comic book ever stood for and twist it into some unrecognisable mockery of everything that ever came before it?

To what purpose I ask?

To draw friggin attention to something controversial as to crack the internet in half?

Getting really ****ing old.

You can only crack something in half once.

After that the novelty is over.

Marc...

I hope you are WRONG my friend.

Because if you ARE right...

Marvel is in worse f***ing shape than any of us could ever imagine.

This would herald the beginning of the end IMHO.



Then again... waitaminute...

Hawkeye could be in the FF2 movie and confuse the s*** out of the movie audience even more!!!

UGH!

[Marcdachamp]

That is not even funny.

That's just ****ing stupid.

So what the point of this era in comics anyway...?

To take everything a comic book ever stood for and twist it into some unrecognisable mockery of everything that ever came before it?

To what purpose I ask?

To draw friggin attention to something controversial as to crack the internet in half?

Getting really ****ing old.

You can only crack something in half once.

After that the novelty is over.

Marc...

I hope you are WRONG my friend.

Because if you ARE right...

Marvel is in worse f***ing shape than any of us could ever imagine.

This would herald the beginning of the end IMHO.



Then again... waitaminute...

Hawkeye could be in the FF2 movie and confuse the s*** out of the movie audience even more!!!

UGH!
um...

if he is, it's alongside She-Hulk, a long-time member of the team. I think that would be some great interaction.

[GNR]

um...

if he is, it's alongside She-Hulk, a long-time member of the team. I think that would be some great interaction.

Clint and Jen have some history don't they?I have an old Avengers comic where they kiss or something with the whole team fighting the Masters Of Evil III at the end.

[Marcdachamp]

Clint and Jen have some history don't they?I have an old Avengers comic where they kiss or something with the whole team fighting the Masters Of Evil III at the end.
Well, they were never really an item, they've just always been very close friends.

[Gambit8370]

...they've just always been very close friends.
So are Matt Murdock and Foggy Nelson, but you don't see them joining frickin Alpha Flight.

[GNR]

So are Matt Murdock and Foggy Nelson, but you don't see them joining frickin Alpha Flight.

Dude,calm down.It's not even fact at this point,just speculation.

[Gambit8370]

Dude,calm down.It's not even fact at this point,just speculation.
I... don't... like... speculation.

Speculation... leads... to... verification.

And... verification... is your... worst nightmares... coming true.

:mad:

[Marcdachamp]

I... don't... like... speculation.

Speculation... leads... to... verification.

And... verification... is your... worst nightmares... coming true.

:mad:
But see, that's a pair that I wouldn't mind seeing as members of the FF. It's not like we're talking about Speedball and Night Thrasher, here. These are 2 prominent Marvel heroes, one of which has been a member. Hell, the Thing was even a member of the West Coast Avengers.

[Gambit8370]

There are only two other groups other than the Avengers that Hawkeye belongs on:

The Thunderbolts

&

The West Coast Avengers

[Marcdachamp]

There are only two other groups other than the Avengers that Hawkeye belongs on:

The Thunderbolts

&

The West Coast Avengers
Yeah, but I bet that list once only contained one group. I once swore that Hawkeye should always be an Avenger, but time changed that stance. Could be interesting.

[Gambit8370]

Yeah, but I bet that list once only contained one group. I once swore that Hawkeye should always be an Avenger, but time changed that stance. Could be interesting.
Those other two made perfect sense at the time.

There were circumstances that led to those events that made perfect sense for the character.

This one doesn't.

[Marcdachamp]

Those other two made perfect sense at the time.

There were circumstances that led to those events that made perfect sense for the character.

This one doesn't.
So you've already read Civil War then? :eek:

[deemar325]

Tucci? meh.

[Gambit8370]

So you've already read Civil War then? :eek:
What would Hawkeye have in common with four adventurers who were altered by cosmic rays?

:confused:

[Marcdachamp]

What would Hawkeye have in common with four adventurers who were altered by cosmic rays?

:confused:
Luke Cage, Scott Lang and She-Hulk weren't hit by said rays and they were all members.

[Gambit8370]

Luke Cage, Scott Lang and She-Hulk weren't hit by said rays and they were all members.
The only one that lasted was She-Hulk.

And that was only because Ben took a vacation on the Secret Wars planet because it allowed him to change back and forth from Ben to The Thing.

Hawkeye does not belong on the FF.

H4H (back on topic) I could see.

FF, no.

[Marcdachamp]

The only one that lasted was She-Hulk.

And that was only because Ben took a vacation on the Secret Wars planet because it allowed him to change back and forth from Ben to The Thing.

Hawkeye does not belong on the FF.

H4H (back on topic) I could see.

FF, no.
How does he fit in H4H over the FF? All you've given me is that Hawkeye wasn't hit by cosmic rays, which long-time member She-Hulk didn't go through.

[TheCorpulent1]

She-Hulk fits into the family outfit a little better than Hawkeye does, in my opinion. What did Hawkeye bring to the Avengers? He was the hothead who got under the leader's skin. That role's been filled by the inimitable matchstick Johnny Storm for half a century on the FF. Although it might be fun to see Hawkeye be a horrible influence on Johnny, taking him to strip clubs and stuff. :)

[Gambit8370]

How does he fit in H4H over the FF? All you've given me is that Hawkeye wasn't hit by cosmic rays, which long-time member She-Hulk didn't go through.
She's a blood transfusion spawned mutate.

That's a helluva lot closer to a cosmicly altered adventurer than an archer.

[deemar325]

^ Corp wassup man, long time no see.

[deemar325]

She-Hulk fits into the family outfit a little better than Hawkeye does, in my opinion. What did Hawkeye bring to the Avengers? He was the hothead who got under the leader's skin. That role's been filled by the inimitable matchstick Johnny Storm for half a century on the FF. Although it might be fun to see Hawkeye be a horrible influence on Johnny, taking him to strip clubs and stuff. :)

Hawkeye and Johnny = Four Freedom Frat House!

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I've been busy. Still am, really. I'm just more willing to come here for my procrastination needs than go to Oblivion anymore. ;)

[deemar325]

^ I've been busy also, the Marvel board seemed to slow down abit.

[GNR]

If this were a regular ongoing without Civil War going on,I wouldn't be too hyped.But with Civil War going on and hero VS hero and all that going on,the story could go alot further than expected.

[TheCorpulent1]

If it were a revival of the post-Onslaught team, I'd be excited. If it's just Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Misty Knight, and those characters, I'll pass. I've never been very interested in any of them except maybe the Iron Fist/Luke Cage comradery, but that's not enough for me to buy an ongoing series.

[Marcdachamp]

She's a blood transfusion spawned mutate.

That's a helluva lot closer to a cosmicly altered adventurer than an archer.
Why does it matter?

[Gambit8370]

Why does it matter?
It's called...

...being true to your origins.

...honoring the original intent of the comic.

FF above all else is about FAMILY right?

To change the core foundation of something as fundamental as THAT is just plain wrong.

Next let's take Spider-Man and turn him into a rock idol who went on a drug and sex binge and had a near-death O.D. experience but now let's tell all about his life in rehab.

[Marcdachamp]

It's called...

...being true to your origins.

...honoring the original intent of the comic.

FF above all else is about FAMILY right?

To change the core foundation of something as fundamental as THAT is just plain wrong.

Next let's take Spider-Man and turn him into a rock idol who went on a drug and sex binge and had a near-death O.D. experience but now let's tell all about his life in rehab.
And putting Hawkeye on the team is equivalent to that? Shulkie joined the team and it stayed true to the family theme, why couldn't it now?

[Gambit8370]

And putting Hawkeye on the team is equivalent to that? Shulkie joined the team and it stayed true to the family theme, why couldn't it now?

It sounds more like a MTV reality series than a family program.

"Four strange heroes, picked to live in a Baxter Building together, to see what happens when comics stop being entertaining, and start sucking eggs."

(slits wrists)

[Marcdachamp]

It sounds more like a MTV reality series than a family program.

"Four strange heroes, picked to live in a Baxter Building together, to see what happens when comics stop being entertaining, and start sucking eggs."

(slits wrists)
...you were a Drama major in College, werentcha?

[Gambit8370]

...you were a Drama major in College, werentcha?
Engineering.

We had to prove the validity of every answer by showing the equations from which they originated.

[Marcdachamp]

Engineering.

We had to prove the validity of every answer by showing the equations from which they originated.
Ah. Over-analytical. Explains everything.:up:

[Darthphere]

Officially confirmed and roster has been named. Let me be the first to say, I dont like it.

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=66653


http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Heroes4Hire/H4H.jpg

For those needing some help, from left to right you have Humbug, Misty Knight, yes the Black Cat (inexplicably left off the list when this story was first published), the new Tarantula, Colleen Wing, and Shang Chi – Master of Kung Fu.

[GNR]

Ahhhhh man,now I am stunned.Not too sure about that lineup.

[roach]

wow that is a sucky line up

Changing the Fantastic Four members is like killing of Jean Grey...after a while you know she's gonna come back so you are just waiting for the return.......they can do what ever they want to FF but I guarantee that it will be back to Reed, Sue, Ben and Johnny

[Darthphere]

So it looks like we know Cap is the one arrested during Civil War.

[TheCorpulent1]

Holy crap, I'm definitely not buying it now. Geez, neither Luke Cage nor Iron Fist? Come on!

[Darthphere]

Holy crap, I'm definitely not buying it now. Geez, neither Luke Cage nor Iron Fist? Come on!


I agree.

[TheCorpulent1]

That spoiler about Cap kind of sucks, too. I don't care much about it since I'm not reading Civil War anyway and it's not even close to the first time it's happened, but I'm sure that'll ruin the story for the people who are reading CW.

[Gambit8370]

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Heroes4Hire/H4H.jpg
Hey now.

I'd HIRE the four heroes in the middle...

...for a bachelor party maybe. :rolleyes:

But that's about it.

[Darthphere]

Hey now.

I'd HIRE the four heroes in the middle...

...for a bachelor party maybe. :rolleyes:

But that's about it.


And most of them arent technically heroes.

[roach]

hire them for a Old Navy commercial

[Dread]

That's a lame roster. And isn't Humbug DEAD? Didn't Deadpool kill him at some point, or am I just missing something?

If it's a new Humbug, then...no one has a right to laugh at "Turtle II" from the Flash's rogues gallery again. As in, a guy who has to rip off a lame idea is even lamer than the originator. Because Marvel does it too. ;)

Sometimes, I think Marvel, frankly, tries to be too clever for its own damn good. They're so busy trying to surprise, shock, and at times inflame their audience that they sometimes forget that living up to at least some expectations can be equally satisfying and rewarding. Of course, sales support their current logic, and as Charlie Brown once said, "That's my problem, I never know how to argue with success."

[Gambit8370]

That's a lame roster. And isn't Humbug DEAD? Didn't Deadpool kill him at some point, or am I just missing something?

If it's a new Humbug, then...no one has a right to laugh at "Turtle II" from the Flash's rogues gallery again. As in, a guy who has to rip off a lame idea is even lamer than the originator. Because Marvel does it too. ;)

Sometimes, I think Marvel, frankly, tries to be too clever for its own damn good. They're so busy trying to surprise, shock, and at times inflame their audience that they sometimes forget that living up to at least some expectations can be equally satisfying and rewarding. Of course, sales support their current logic, and as Charlie Brown once said, "That's my problem, I never know how to argue with success."

BAH!





(Humbug joke, couldn't resist)

[roach]

Put Iron fist and Powerman in charge of them and the book has potential

[Darthphere]

Guys dont forget these guys are on the team too. Paladin, Sable, and Orka.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Black Cat eats potential. She's like a vampire, only with potential instead of blood. She's an automatic death knell for any book. :o

[Darthphere]

I wonder if she'll get raped.

[Darthphere]

Why is this book called Heroes for Hire seems more like Sell-Outs for Hire?

[roach]

So it looks like we know Cap is the one arrested during Civil War.


HOLD ON ONE SECOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why would they arrest Cap since the government created his superhero identity????

[TheCorpulent1]

Because Cap's going against the government. Again. So they're trying to arrest him. Again.

[Darthphere]

HOLD ON ONE SECOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why would they arrest Cap since the government created his superhero identity????


Ask Millar.:rolleyes: probably for insubordination or some crap.

[roach]

Why is this book called Heroes for Hire seems more like Sell-Outs for Hire?


to capitalize on the H4H name...sort of like New Avengers...
so we have New Fantastic Four and New H4H coming out of CW...why dont they just call themselves New Marvel????

[Darthphere]

to capitalize on the H4H name...sort of like New Avengers...
so we have New Fantastic Four and New H4H coming out of CW...why dont they just call themselves New Marvel????


Or Ultimate.....wait.

[GNR]

My goodness,this lineup is really lacklustre.I can't really pick out a central figure or leader.Eeks.

[roach]

I dont forsee this book going the distance

[Gambit8370]

to capitalize on the H4H name...sort of like New Avengers...
so we have New Fantastic Four and New H4H coming out of CW...why dont they just call themselves New Marvel????

The "New _____" thing has certainly worn out it's novelty, don'tcha think?

They need a different adjective to use to describe a relaunched title that is a pale shadow of it's former glory.

Hmm...

I'll have to ponder this one a bit more.

[GOODT!MES]

I see this book as an underdog hit.
This thing...it has all the wrong things going for it before it even comes out. Everyone knows it's going to suck. Just for that, we're all wrong. It'll be great. There's no way- NO WAY- Marvel isn't laughing its @$$ off right now because no one realizes what I just did. Of all the sucky things Marvel has cranked out, they would never even attempt something like this without an AMAZING catch. Even their marketing for the book- like in the discussions- is a parody of their own advertising of horrble books. If they know it'll suck before it comes out and we know as well and they still greenlighted it, there's more than meets the eye at work. This book- this book'll be a winner.

[Darthphere]

The "New _____" thing has certainly worn out it's novelty, don'tcha think?

They need a different adjective to use to describe a relaunched title that is a pale shadow of it's former glory.

Hmm...

I'll have to ponder this one a bit more.


Ultimate? oh wait...damn i keep forgetting.


Im sorry im a big H4H fan but im not picking this p unless I hear really good things about it.

[roach]

I got it.... Screwed Up
Screwed Up Avengers
Screwed Up X-Men
Screwed Up FF
Screwed Up H4H

[roach]

I see this book as an underdog hit.
This thing...it has all the wrong things going for it before it even comes out. Everyone knows it's going to suck. Just for that, we're all wrong. It'll be great. There's no way- NO WAY- Marvel isn't laughing its @$$ off right now because no one realizes what I just did. Of all the sucky things Marvel has cranked out, they would never even attempt something like this without an AMAZING catch. Even their marketing for the book- like in the discussions- is a parody of their own advertising of horrble books. If they know it'll suck before it comes out and we know as well and they still greenlighted it, there's more than meets the eye at work. This book- this book'll be a winner.


Kinda like the New Warriors series

[Darthphere]

"Asked why the creators chose this line-up and not the familiar Luke Cage and Iron First, Paniccia said, “The circumstances of the current climate in the Marvel Universe allow for this group to be formed. On that same token, they don’t allow for Luke and Iron Fist to take part."


Sounds like a BS response to me.

[GOODT!MES]

Was New Warriors good? I'm about to get the trade if I see it.

[roach]

yeah because IF is soooo busy these days

[Darthphere]

Was that good? I'm about to get the trade if I see it.


No.:(

[Darthphere]

yeah because IF is soooo busy these days


Iron Fist works hard for the money, so hard for the money....

[32CAGE]

"Asked why the creators chose this line-up and not the familiar Luke Cage and Iron First, Paniccia said, “The circumstances of the current climate in the Marvel Universe allow for this group to be formed. On that same token, they don’t allow for Luke and Iron Fist to take part."


Sounds like a BS response to me.


Maybe not. Perhaps Iron Fist will become a member of the New Avengers.

[roach]

Magic Eightball says: Not likely

[PWN3R]

WTF? I just saw the news....why?!?! Why Marvel why?!?!

:(

[KingOfDreams]

Well, the team line-up was not what I expected or really wanted to tell you the truth but I'll check it out at least because I'm enjoying the Daughters Of The Dragon mini.

[chris moore]

So what's the premise of this book? I havent read too much about it really.

Is it supposed to be a team of heroes whose identities are already known (or gave them up according to the registration act) and are one of the teams that are part of the SHIELD superhuman security forces or something? Are they being tasked with finding those superhumans who are on the loose?

[roach]

So what's the premise of this book? I havent read too much about it really.

Is it supposed to be a team of heroes whose identities are already known (or gave them up according to the registration act) and are one of the teams that are part of the SHIELD superhuman security forces or something? Are they being tasked with finding those superhumans who are on the loose?


who could they take on though???????
Spiderman???? Cap?????? any mutant?????

[Darthphere]

So what's the premise of this book? I havent read too much about it really.

Is it supposed to be a team of heroes whose identities are already known (or gave them up according to the registration act) and are one of the teams that are part of the SHIELD superhuman security forces or something? Are they being tasked with finding those superhumans who are on the loose?


Prettty much yeah. Id love to see Humbug take down Wolverine....:rolleyes:

[Darthphere]

New interview with Palmiotti and Gray @Newsarama.

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=67525

[chris moore]

Doesnt really tell us anything about the premise though does it? And they didnt cover the reasons for including half the team - though I spose itd ruin it if we're told their reasons for joining before seeing them get thrown into it. Like if some joining is by accident, some by governmental pressure or assignment...

[Darthphere]

It seemed like they hinted stuff with Luke and Danny was happening but I wasnt really satisfied as to why they arent part of H4H.