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Sparta*
03-24-2007, 01:36 AM
Considering everyone who can fly, can use their powers in the air, I think Archangel would have been great in MUA. I want to stay optimistic about seeing him in future games but I don't know...
As far as seeing him dead in MUA, that is only one of two possible choices for that particular outcome and i'm sure it has no bearing on anything related to a sequel or his character actually dying.
jaydawg
03-24-2007, 01:37 AM
I have to say, alot of their choices are just retarded. Angel's key moment in comics history is tied to Apocalypse. So what do they do in the game that they recreate that moment? The dont make him playable. Really bad move on their part. Almost as bad as actually having to pay to play as Nightcrawler, Cyclops and Sabertooth.
Frankly, Hulk is the only character I'm excited for. Half of the characters we already have played as, so they should be free content. Cyclops should have been in the game from the get go instead of Iceman. And if they supposedly listened to forum posters... well, why the hell isnt Psylocke there? She was the SECOND most requested, behind Hulk. Not that I care about playing as her, but it proves the point of them not listening to the fans.
8 characters later, and still, STILL, no playable Namor. Thats just bull****. So one of the Defenders can join the mix, but not the one Defender who was already in the game and a striker in the GBA version? Where the hell is the logic in that?
God, if they actually do a villain version of MUA2 (and looks like the villain pack is hinting at it), the Green Goddamn Goblin better be in it.
Sparta*
03-24-2007, 01:39 AM
Yeah i think they will get 4 costumes one of Venom's costumes could end up being a Carnage skin.
Speaking of costumes what 4 costumes would you guys like to see for these characters.
Here's my ideas for the 4 costumes:
Venom
-Classic
-Carnage
-New(Mac Gargan)
-Venom 2099
The Hulk
-Classic
-Grey Hulk
-Joe Fixit
-The Maestro
Cyclops
-Uncanny
-Classic
-Ultimate
-90's Animated Series
Magneto
-Ultimate
-Classic
-AOE
-House of M
Dr.Doom
-Classic
-Ultimate
-Doom 2099
-Doctor Doom (Nathaniel Richards) Version
Hawkeye
-Classic
-Ultimate
-Modern
-House of M
Sabretooth
-Classic
-Ultimate
-Weapon X
- AOE
Nightcrawler
-Uncanny
-Ultimate
-AOE
-Excalibur
For Hulk I hope they have Grey Hulk, Green Hulk (Savage), Maestro, and Professor Hulk :up:
You have all of Hawkeye's costumes right except the House of M one.
If they put in Cyclops' Jim Lee costume I would be extremely happy (Storm got hers damnit! and I know Wolvie's astonishing is close to the Jim Lee costume but not as good) That era of X-men was awesome because all the characters looked their best. (Rogue and Storm especially, their newer costumes can't even compare)
Sparta*
03-24-2007, 01:45 AM
I have to say, alot of their choices are just retarded. Angel's key moment in comics history is tied to Apocalypse. So what do they do in the game that they recreate that moment? The dont make him playable. Really bad move on their part. Almost as bad as actually having to pay to play as Nightcrawler, Cyclops and Sabertooth.
Frankly, Hulk is the only character I'm excited for. Half of the characters we already have played as, so they should be free content. Cyclops should have been in the game from the get go instead of Iceman. And if they supposedly listened to forum posters... well, why the hell isnt Psylocke there? She was the SECOND most requested, behind Hulk. Not that I care about playing as her, but it proves the point of them not listening to the fans.
8 characters later, and still, STILL, no playable Namor. Thats just bull****. So one of the Defenders can join the mix, but not the one Defender who was already in the game and a striker in the GBA version? Where the hell is the logic in that?
God, if they actually do a villain version of MUA2 (and looks like the villain pack is hinting at it), the Green Goddamn Goblin better be in it.
Yeah, no playable Namor is definatley bull****, I agree with you there. There is no way they can use the "Namor wouldn't join the team, it doesn't make sense" angle, because Doom will be playable...the main villain...on your team...fighting himself at the end. If he can be in, then anyone would work. They just got lazy and threw in a lot of characters that have been in a game already...and if I had a choice i'd take Namor over any of the new characters that are being put in the game...not because I like him more, just because I think he belongs the most and has been a part of Marvel since the beginning/rant
spideyboy_1111
03-24-2007, 01:57 AM
Yeah, no playable Namor is definatley bull****, I agree with you there. There is no way they can use the "Namor wouldn't join the team, it doesn't make sense" angle, because Doom will be playable...the main villain...on your team...fighting himself at the end. If he can be in, then anyone would work. They just got lazy and threw in a lot of characters that have been in a game already...and if I had a choice i'd take Namor over any of the new characters that are being put in the game...not because I like him more, just because I think he belongs the most and has been a part of Marvel since the beginning/rant
well, i'd suppose if these updates go well... they may do more.
i'm kinda shocked psylocke and namor werent one of them.
if they add more ever... i'm possitive it will be either some or all of these. Namor, Psylocke, Phoenix, Iron Fist, Loki, Scarlet Witch, Emma Frost, She-Hulk, captain marvel, mandarin, vison
Robin's Holyisms
03-24-2007, 03:23 AM
For Hulk I hope they have Grey Hulk, Green Hulk (Savage), Maestro, and Professor Hulk :up:
You have all of Hawkeye's costumes right except the House of M one.
If they put in Cyclops' Jim Lee costume I would be extremely happy (Storm got hers damnit! and I know Wolvie's astonishing is close to the Jim Lee costume but not as good) That era of X-men was awesome because all the characters looked their best. (Rogue and Storm especially, their newer costumes can't even compare)
The House of M costume is the 3rd kit that I would like to see for Hawkeye.
Yeah I but i realise that his 3rd costume is his Street Gear.
walternewell
03-24-2007, 09:19 AM
The expansion packs they mentioned...will there be ones available for the PC? That's the version that I own.
TheCaretaker
03-24-2007, 10:10 AM
i think for venom one of the suits should be the movie version.
Robin's Holyisms
03-24-2007, 12:10 PM
I doubt it. Raven apparently likes to use the same old, done-to-death X-Men instead of new and fresher ones.
Some of the Fans at the VIP site asked for these characters so you can't blame activision for putting them in.
They said they listened to our feedback even though not everyone's happy about the character choices they have satisfied a portion of there fanbase.
Robin's Holyisms
03-24-2007, 12:12 PM
The expansion packs they mentioned...will there be ones available for the PC? That's the version that I own.
No as said before this will only be for X-Box 360.
Colossal Spoons
03-24-2007, 12:19 PM
I need to f'n activate X-Box Live :woot:
JustABill
03-24-2007, 12:22 PM
Oh come on and put them on live already. :cmad:
Nathan
03-24-2007, 12:25 PM
The expansion packs they mentioned...will there be ones available for the PC? That's the version that I own.
Sadly 360 only. But there's a modding group who'll probably rip them from the game and put them into the PC version. They've already made a Colossus & Moon Knight Mod.
http://marvelmods.com/
Havok83
03-24-2007, 01:10 PM
Sadly 360 only. But there's a modding group who'll probably rip them from the game and put them into the PC version. They've already made a Colossus & Moon Knight Mod.
http://marvelmods.com/
a very succesful mod of those two. I play it with the 360 controller and its just like using it on that system minus Live of course. The PC is the best version bc you can get all the characters plus more thanks to skins and the mods
Storm22
03-24-2007, 01:36 PM
When are they gonna be on XBox Live, do we know? I'd better get the wireless adapter and points card then.
Savage
03-24-2007, 02:00 PM
Noo idea but I gotta get myself a card too. My favorite X-men (sans Beast, Cable, and Gambit) in glorious next gen quality. :D...Oh, and Hawkeye. :D
WorthyStevens
03-24-2007, 02:02 PM
Maybe the want to save him for XML3 or M:UA2.
They've had 3 chances to put him in. I severely doubt by now that they give a s**t.
Some of the Fans at the VIP site asked for these characters so you can't blame activision for putting them in.
They said they listened to our feedback even though not everyone's happy about the character choices they have satisfied a portion of there fanbase.
Yeah I can. There were plenty of other characters that were asked for that wouldn't contradict the storyline like Doom and Nightcrawler will. Namor, Psylocke, etc.
I'm severely questioning their IQ level. The main boss should not be a playable.
Storm22
03-24-2007, 02:03 PM
I checked up on Hawkeye and he sounds lame tbh. Martial arts capabilities, no specific powers, special arrows - sounds like Elektra/Fury ie. bad! I wonder will they make Magneto much different to XML2 Magneto.
Savage
03-24-2007, 02:11 PM
Eh. Guess I'm a softie for the more down to earth characters. I absolutely loved playing guys like Nick Fury, Blade, Captain America, and Wolverine while the bigger, more powerful characters created chaos around me. :up:
Nathan
03-24-2007, 02:14 PM
Yeah, loved Captain America, he was one of the best characters in the game. Can't say the same for the likes of Fury and Blade though. I'm definitely looking forward to Hawkeye.
Storm22
03-24-2007, 02:30 PM
My faves are the likes of Storm, Iceman, Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Ms. Marvel and Dr. Strange - the powerful characters. I love using Invisible Woman and levitating some bad guy headfirst into a wall!:D Storm's tornado is the best move too for clearing a room!
Nathan
03-24-2007, 02:33 PM
I hate using Invisible Girl because she's just a Jean Grey clone. :( Why the hell didn't they give her the ability to create invisible walls, keeping enemies off your team, or a force field for all your teammates?
JustABill
03-24-2007, 02:34 PM
Hawkeye is a classic Avenger it was way stupid of them to make him a PSP exclusive in the first place. :down:
Savage
03-24-2007, 02:42 PM
I hate using Invisible Girl because she's just a Jean Grey clone. :( Why the hell didn't they give her the ability to create invisible walls, keeping enemies off your team, or a force field for all your teammates?
Maybe in the sequel? There's a lot of moves that the Green Lantern had in JLH that she should have had but didn't. In turn GL should have had attacks similar to telekenisis. Either wa I loved playing both characters in both games. Putting up the sheild having lasers go flying back at enemies and pretty much walking right through hordes of them like they're not even there. :D
Speaking of which, those guys need to work hard on Shadowcat and bring back Beast and Emma Frost because I want my Astonishing X-men. :up:
spideyboy_1111
03-24-2007, 03:40 PM
I checked up on Hawkeye and he sounds lame tbh. Martial arts capabilities, no specific powers, special arrows - sounds like Elektra/Fury ie. bad! I wonder will they make Magneto much different to XML2 Magneto.
hawkeye kicks ass.... you obviously don't know the character. plus in the PSP game hes friggin awsome
JustABill
03-24-2007, 03:42 PM
hawkeye kicks ass.... you obviously don't know the character. plus in the PSP game hes friggin awsome
Maybe he looked up Kate? She's sorta lame. LOL.
spideyboy_1111
03-24-2007, 03:48 PM
no... kate is not lame. *angry face*
JustABill
03-24-2007, 03:51 PM
no... kate is not lame. *angry face*
She's lamer than Clint. :up:
spideyboy_1111
03-24-2007, 04:01 PM
... doesnt make her lame though
JustABill
03-24-2007, 04:12 PM
It's okay. She won't be Hawkeye much longer. Cause he'll probably be the new Ronin and then take up his old name again. And Marvel really can't have two Hawkeyes running around.
spideyboy_1111
03-24-2007, 04:26 PM
we had 4 spider-women for years
JustABill
03-24-2007, 04:33 PM
we had 4 spider-women for years
Mattie sucks, Julia is Archane now. And the villianess one is in limbo hell. Jessica, the one true Spider-Woman has her rightful title.
Robin's Holyisms
03-24-2007, 04:42 PM
They've had 3 chances to put him in. I severely doubt by now that they give a s**t.
Yeah I can. There were plenty of other characters that were asked for that wouldn't contradict the storyline like Doom and Nightcrawler will. Namor, Psylocke, etc.
I'm severely questioning their IQ level. The main boss should not be a playable.
He probably should have been an unlockable in XML2 after you completed the game.
But what could he do besides Regenerating his Health and Shooting Missiles from his wings?
Although I am happy with the characters that we got I still would have like to seen some of following in the DLC:
Namor, Iron Fist, Black Cat, Sentry, She-Hulk, Ant Man, Wasp, Wonderman, Vision, Nova, Firestar, Silver Sable, Cloak & Dagger, Black Bolt, Quicksilver, Black Knight, Deathlock, Falcon, Tigra, Hercules, Scarlet Witch, Adam Warlock, The Punisher (Licensing ruined this one)
spideyboy_1111
03-24-2007, 05:36 PM
yes... im aware julia is arachne now, but for nearly 30 some years.. there were 2 spider-women
Robin's Holyisms
03-24-2007, 05:44 PM
yes... im aware julia is arachne now, but for nearly 30 some years.. there were 2 spider-women
Actually there was 4 women called Spider-Woman they were
Jessica Drew, Julia Carpenter, Mattie Franklin, and Charlotte Witter (the only villain to use the name.)
JustABill
03-24-2007, 05:52 PM
Yes. We covered that Londonmark. :p
Robin's Holyisms
03-24-2007, 06:31 PM
Yes. We covered that Londonmark.
Well I just thought I would name the 4 characters that played
Spider-Woman just incase there are some people who aren't familiar with them.
spideyboy_1111
03-24-2007, 07:13 PM
Actually there was 4 women called Spider-Woman they were
Jessica Drew, Julia Carpenter, Mattie Franklin, and Charlotte Witter (the only villain to use the name.)
read back a smidge.. lol i said that already too... but the last 2 were much later... this time i said for 30 years
JustABill
03-24-2007, 07:30 PM
Doesn't matter Jessica Drew is the only one now, unless is Mattie going by Spider-Woman in Loners? o_O
WorthyStevens
03-24-2007, 07:34 PM
He probably should have been an unlockable in XML2 after you completed the game.
But what could he do besides Regenerating his Health and Shooting Missiles from his wings?
He's got his wings, which could easily give him several different attack moves. He's also been known to carry swords, gas guns and all that stuff. And he regenerates not just his own health, but others as well.
Angel could have some really cool moves if done right.
Savage
03-24-2007, 08:02 PM
He's got his wings, which could easily give him several different attack moves. He's also been known to carry swords, gas guns and all that stuff. And he regenerates not just his own health, but others as well.
Angel could have some really cool moves if done right.
Well you've gotta admit the amount of attacks are limited in comparison.
That said, I would still find it fun to play him. :up:
Also, why the hell isn't Beast in Nightcrawler's place? The guy was Avenger. He'd fit in fine. He was even there during Disassembled.
WorthyStevens
03-24-2007, 09:33 PM
Well you've gotta admit the amount of attacks are limited in comparison.
That said, I would still find it fun to play him. :up:
Also, why the hell isn't Beast in Nightcrawler's place? The guy was Avenger. He'd fit in fine. He was even there during Disassembled.
I wouldn't say that. He has his wings just like how Cyclops has his laserbeams, how Nightcrawler has teleportation/swords, and like how Wolverine has his claws.
Unlike most characters, he has the ability to have both air and ground attacks.
I made up a movelist some while ago:
ATTACKS
1. Rise of a Champion: Angel grabs and picks up enemies, then fights them while in flight. Increases critical hit chances, and melee.
2. Airborne: Angel grabs enemies with his wings and throws them at a nearby enemy, causing knockback for both parties.
3. Winged Migration: Warren grabs enemies with his wings tightly, and then tosses them far away.
4. Godly Knockback: Angel slams his wings into enemies' faces at full speed. Increases attack bonus.
5. Celestial Swoosh: Warren directs his wings at an enemy's foot and attacks at fast speed.
6. Sparrow's Spear: Angel Flies up and then performs a dive attack at enemies, essentially spearing them. Stuns enemies.
7. Wing's Foot: Warren scoops up enemies' feet with wings. Causes knockback.
XTREMES
1. Rage of Death: While spinning in mid-air, Warren releases a dangerously large amount of fletchettes that violently paralyzes all enemies within range. Causes severe knockback. Can only use when using Archangel's skin.
2. Avenging Blade: Angel pulls out his mystical sword, striking and paralyzing all enemies within a certain time limit. Angel exclusive. Can only use when using an Angel skin.
PASSIVES
1. Agile Angel: Increases attack and defense rating.
2. Divine Energy: Increase energy efficiency.
3. Defense of the Guardian: Increase defense level.
4. Critical Strike: Increase critical chance for physical attacks.
5. Power from the Heavens: Heal himself and selected others.
Savage
03-24-2007, 09:49 PM
Nice. And here all I could think of was a spinning attack (like Deadpool and Nightcrawler's), a radial attack where he opens his wings wide (knocking away everyone around him), flying straight through everyone and everything, and flying while punching the crap out of people (Cannonball has this move).
Spider-X
03-25-2007, 01:44 AM
Blame it on Sony for a having a bad online set up.
Sony doesn't have a bad online setup...maybe not as good as XBox (i've never tried it), but it's not bad...and it's online setup is definately not stopping Activision from putting up these new characters for the PS3.
they could add them into the PlaystationStore to download at a cost so easily it's not even funny...so once again: wth!!!?!?!
spideyboy_1111
03-25-2007, 02:02 AM
and if nintendo can down load games on a wii.. then not really seeing why they couldnt do this either
Doctor of Doom
03-25-2007, 06:04 AM
Nintendo COULD, but they ahven't.
Sony COULD, but they haven't.
Hopefully they will both see sense and open it up but i don't see Nintendo letting MUA be the first third party game to recieve content this way and I don't think Sony are smart enough either.
Charlie No-One
03-25-2007, 09:47 AM
I think Angel should have his Archangel powers...that would give the player more options along with the ones already listed.
Sparta*
03-25-2007, 08:11 PM
Also, why the hell isn't Beast in Nightcrawler's place? The guy was Avenger. He'd fit in fine. He was even there during Disassembled.
Amen.
spideyboy_1111
03-25-2007, 10:18 PM
I think Angel should have his Archangel powers...that would give the player more options along with the ones already listed.
agreed... the other non-horsemen looks should just be skins
The Geek Vault
03-26-2007, 04:10 PM
Man, I'm kind of bummed. I used cheats on one of my games and it transferred over, I wanted to earn the characters the non cheating way, oh well. Now my team kicks butt! Also, Can someone help me out Valkirie has asked me to retrieve Dragon Fang on Bifrost Bridge, Anyone know where it is? And can anyone help me with the location of Wong's sphere of magic? Wow I just used Mr. Fantastic, The game makes him so cool!
Nathan
03-27-2007, 02:03 PM
'kay, so I've got my hands on the PC version again and installed the Moon Knight and Colossus Mod. I'm in love with Colossus. He's my 2nd favorite character right after Captain America.
Sparta*
03-27-2007, 04:52 PM
'kay, so I've got my hands on the PC version again and installed the Moon Knight and Colossus Mod. I'm in love with Colossus. He's my 2nd favorite character right after Captain America.
Really? Damn...that combined with the info on the 8 new downloadable characters.......looks like i'm buying a 360 soon, it's unavoidable lol I can buy one or slowly be destroyed from the inside out :p
JustABill
03-27-2007, 05:29 PM
These damn characters better be released on April 1st. I can't wait much longer. :up:
Savage
03-27-2007, 06:13 PM
Oh yeah. Definately. I wonder if there are any mods for other characters online like Winter Soldier. I mean someone even made Kitty Pryde and Angel playable in X-men Legends II.
The Geek Vault
03-27-2007, 08:09 PM
Guys, who should I choose as a guide Super Skrull or Paibok?
Savage
03-27-2007, 08:35 PM
It doesn't matter really.
They both beat the crap out of you.
Sparta*
03-27-2007, 09:04 PM
Guys, who should I choose as a guide Super Skrull or Paibok?
Do you like looking at Paibok or Super Skrull more? lol choosing one or the other makes no difference on anything in the game. Just choose whoever you think has cooler powers.
JustABill
03-27-2007, 09:15 PM
I wonder if we'll get costumes and move lists for the DLC characters before they are available to download or not.
Sparta*
03-28-2007, 01:05 AM
I am so damn excited for Hulk...i'd be happy if he was the only downloadable character. He is going to have awesome skins. Grey Hulk will be there for sure, and obviously Green Hulk, probably savage...then hopefully they'll have Maestro and Professor Hulk.
JustABill
03-28-2007, 07:12 AM
Meh. I could care less about Hulk one way or another. The only Hulk I like is a lawyer. :up:
Sparta*
03-28-2007, 01:46 PM
Meh. I could care less about Hulk one way or another. The only Hulk I like is a lawyer. :up:
Yeah, She-Hulk is radical too...HOPEFULLY THEY WILL HAVE HER AS A SKIN FOR HULK! That would rule!!!
(how can you like She-Hulk though, and not Hulk?? She wouldn't be around if it weren't for him :p)
JustABill
03-28-2007, 01:54 PM
I have weird periods. Sometimes I like the Hulkster. Sometimes I don't. Either way, he's far from a favorite Marvel character of mine.
Nathan
03-28-2007, 02:00 PM
I'm really looking forward to Venom, Hawkeye and Cyclops. I just hope that they are able to make a mod for the PC.
Chris Wallace
03-28-2007, 02:04 PM
I'm going through & correcting my mistakes from last time. Saving Lilandra was a b*tch. I kept running out of time.
Sparta*
03-28-2007, 03:38 PM
I'm really looking forward to Venom, Hawkeye and Cyclops. I just hope that they are able to make a mod for the PC.
I'm almost positive there will be a mod for all the downloadable characters...people are pretty damn smart lol
maybe I should just save myself some money and get a highly 'upgraded' version of MUA for my comp instead of buying a 360 w/online.
WorthyStevens
03-28-2007, 03:48 PM
HULK! CYCLOPS! HAWKEYE! VENOM!
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4259/marvelultimatealliance2gq3.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5499/marvelultimatealliance2mi0.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/6062/marvelultimatealliance2sj8.jpg
http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/822/822965/imgs_1.html
Nathan
03-28-2007, 03:51 PM
Looking good. :up:
WorthyStevens
03-28-2007, 03:53 PM
MAGS!
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/9136/marvelultimatealliance2ya6.jpg
Nathan
03-28-2007, 03:55 PM
Wtf? :dry:
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5114/wtfme1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
WorthyStevens
03-28-2007, 04:00 PM
Methinks that's one of Venom's passives, kinda like Mr. Fantastic's where his hands grow huge.
His head looks small and weird though. :dry:
Nathan
03-28-2007, 04:05 PM
Reminds me of this. :dry:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/AgentClarkNova/sensational-spider-man-200703230323.jpg
ProjectPat2280
03-28-2007, 04:07 PM
Methinks that's one of Venom's passives, kinda like Mr. Fantastic's where his hands grow huge.
His head looks small and weird though. :dry:
Yea, i agree. Still cant wait to use him tho.
ProjectPat2280
03-28-2007, 04:07 PM
Thats such a kick ass picture.^^^
WorthyStevens
03-28-2007, 04:11 PM
Hopefully his head is bigger, and that from the angle most of it is blended in with his body.
Nathan
03-28-2007, 04:14 PM
Ok, I'm definitely not liking Venom. He's just way too fat.
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8514/nolikeju9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Storm22
03-28-2007, 04:17 PM
Good stuff! I see Magneto has a pretty similar levitation move to Invisible Woman. I defo won't be using that Cyclops costume!
This should be great! If the new characters don't automatically do so I'm gonna level them straight up to 99, like the rest of my characters.
I'll probably start the game again with a team made up of some new characters.
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7788/marvelultimatealliance2cp0.jpg
Who's in this pic with Sabretooth?
Nathan
03-28-2007, 04:53 PM
Just some random robot.
Horrorfan
03-28-2007, 05:14 PM
When will these be made avalible?
Savage
03-28-2007, 06:34 PM
Wow. These look absolutely fantastic. :up: Only thing that bummed me out was the Hulk's face. That looks a little pasted on but I'm sure that's just the angle. Oooh. I can't wait to play Cyclops and Sabretooth in next gen 3D goodness. :D
The Geek Vault
03-28-2007, 06:39 PM
I want to go out and get a 360 now! I hope they put wonderman up eventually and YellowJacket and Vision. You know what spider-man villain would be awsome to play as SANDMAN!
Robin's Holyisms
03-28-2007, 06:52 PM
When will these be made avalible?
The DLC will be released on April 10th.
IGN: Thanks for adding new characters to Marvel Ultimate Alliance; it will be interesting to see The Hulk and Venom in action. So, why did you choose these particular characters -- The Hulk, Venom, Cyclops, Magneto, Nightcrawler, Hawkeye, Sabretooth, and Doctor Doom for the add-on pack? Seems like a good number of them were already in the previous X-Men action-RPGs (X-Men Legends 2: Rise of Apocalypse).
Chris Palmisano: One of the big factors in choosing the new characters was based on feedback from our fan community site Marvelultimatealliance.com. Not to over-simplify it, but we basically surveyed our most vocal and active fans and then tried to narrow it down based on popularity. We also ran the list by Marvel for their feedback, but the VIP's won out for just about all of the eight spots we had for new characters.
IGN: How difficult was it to create a working Hulk? Was it any more difficult than the Thing? Also, does The Hulk have a different character model and/or animations than the Thing? Please explain.
Chris Palmisano: The hardest part about creating a working Hulk was properly balancing the game. As fans probably know, he is one of the most powerful characters in the entire Marvel Universe in terms of brute force. In comparison to the Thing; Hulk is actually a lot taller and has a different posture, so the model is entirely different. In respect to the animation and super powers, Hulk has an element of ferocity to him compared to Thing that we really wanted to bring that out in the combat.
IGN: How much will the add-on packs cost?
Chris Palmisano: The downloadable content will be released in three packs actually. The Hero Pack and Villain Pack will each be 500 Microsoft points ($6.25) and the Combined Hero and Villain Pack will be 800 Microsoft points ($10). Heroes and Villains gamer pic packs will also be available for 80 Microsoft points each ($1).
IGN: Please give us examples of some of the cool, killer moves that the new characters can pull off? For example, what can Hulk, Venom, Hawkeye and Doctor Doom do?
Chris Palmisano: Well from that list of characters there are some really cool buffs and awesome moves. Hulk can almost double in size so normal characters only come up to his waist and Venom grows tendrils and giant claws. Moves-wise they all have cool abilities, though my favorite is Doom's "Doom Warp," which inflicts damage on everything around as it teleports him out of harm's way. Hawkeye also has a really visually exciting attack -- the "Ice Pick" -- where he jumps up in the air and blasts everything below him with his arrows.
IGN: Also, since Cyclops has shown up in both X-men games before Marvel Ultimate Alliance, how will he look and play differently?
Chris Palmisano: Cyclops's powers have all new visual effects and have also been completely overhauled from what fans have seen in previous games. As one of the most classic X-Men, this was a good opportunity to show what next-generation flare can do to his abilities. His attacks look amazing and also do some serious damage. I would recommend the "ricochet blast."
IGN: This is essentially the first game to show increased Achievements beyond 1,000 points on a standard retail Xbox 360 game, giving gamers 10 new Achievements for a total of 60 altogether (normally a standard retail game offers 1,000 achievements total and developers can split those up as they choose). Please tell us what kind of Achievements you worked into the game? What can we look forward to?
Chris Palmisano: The new Achievements really enabled us to highlight the new content and characters. There are eight Achievements awarded for unlocking all the costumes for each new character and there are four achievements for players who play through the new plot points created by the new characters. I would love to talk more about them since they are quite cool, but I don't want to give them away.
IGN: Will we see any more add-ons to this game in the future? If so, what type?
Chris Palmisano: I can't confirm any details at this time.
IGN: Since you can play as Doctor Doom and The Hulk in the game now, does that change the story? For instance, Doctor Doom is a villain in the game, and Bruce Banner appears in a cutscene already. How have you changed, altered, or massaged the story to work in the new characters?
Chris Palmisano: We have recorded all sorts of new dialogue for the game and added to the script. I don't want to give away exactly how it works, but we hope players enjoy the small touches the development team added in to make the story work out.
IGN: What happens, for instance, if I have already started a game of Marvel: Ultimate Alliance and I'm, say, 50% done. I then download the new content. Can I use the new characters in my already existing game? Or do I have to start a new one? If not, why not?
Chris Palmisano: In this scenario you will be able to play from your old save with the new characters. You could even host an online game where players who have not downloaded the new characters would be able to play your save and your new characters as well. (The other players have to get a special download for online games only that can be found on marketplace and is free.)
IGN: Will the new characters appear in the standard menu seamlessly? Or will there be an indicator flagging them as newly downloaded?
Chris Palmisano: The menu looks awesome with all the new characters in there. We are really starting to run out of room though.
Credit ign.com
Sebastos
03-28-2007, 07:02 PM
The shots look awesome, can't wait to play as Cyclops and Venom!
JustABill
03-28-2007, 07:27 PM
Awesomenennnnnnnneasssjklkjl;ekj;seajklkjl;kljfdsa kjl;fsdl;kjdsf!
:D
Havok83
03-28-2007, 07:57 PM
This is great that they are doing this, but I cant see myself going through the game yet again. It would have been better if they had included or released instead a mission pack with new levels and/or new missions within existing ones. The new characters can only last so long. Great for those who havent played the game but not so much who have already 6 months ago.
Savage
03-28-2007, 08:07 PM
I still enjoy this game quite a lot actually. For me it's all about playing my favorite characters and they are all AMAZING when leveled up really high. It's why I'm getting it for the PSP as well so I can play it on the go. Got both X-men Legends II games already (Cable rules all. :up). :up:
WorthyStevens
03-28-2007, 08:12 PM
I just hope Venom will be able to swing around with his black webbing.
JustABill
03-28-2007, 08:16 PM
I've been through this game so many damn times. It's so easy to pick up and play over and over again, so I welcome the new characters. :up:
JustABill
03-28-2007, 08:21 PM
Wonder where screens of Doom and Nightcrawler are.
Sebastos
03-28-2007, 08:28 PM
I just hope Venom will be able to swing around with his black webbing.
Same here! That be awesome.
Sebastos
03-28-2007, 08:29 PM
So to get the downloadable content, it will indeed cost 500 points?
Storm22
03-28-2007, 08:43 PM
Here's a shot of Doom
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6057/marvelultimatealliance2li7.jpg
JustABill
03-28-2007, 08:46 PM
WTF? Cyclops 2.0? :down:
Savage
03-28-2007, 09:57 PM
I'm sure that's just one of his attacks...Although I know him more for firing everything from his hands than his face but oh well.
JustABill
03-28-2007, 11:00 PM
Hmm. I wonder if cheat codes will cause any effects on the new characters?
Robin's Holyisms
03-29-2007, 03:23 AM
This is great that they are doing this, but I cant see myself going through the game yet again. It would have been better if they had included or released instead a mission pack with new levels and/or new missions within existing ones. The new characters can only last so long. Great for those who havent played the game but not so much who have already 6 months ago.
Well they didn't add any levels and missions because the developers want to save stuff for MUA2.
But they have added some extra achievements.
And Reportedly, there is all new dialogue and a few story tweaks with the new characters.
JustABill
03-29-2007, 06:02 AM
I wonder what Doom's new dialouge entails.
Doom: That wretched doom-bot decoy must be stopped!
Oh, and to Luke Cage.
''When my men reported a crazy black man in my stead...I knew it had to be you."
Savage
03-29-2007, 09:58 AM
LOL! Gotta love that Hudlin. :up::D
Havok83
03-29-2007, 07:08 PM
Well they didn't add any levels and missions because the developers want to save stuff for MUA2.
But they have added some extra achievements.
And Reportedly, there is all new dialogue and a few story tweaks with the new characters.
and one could say they shouldnt have added extra characters in order to save them for MUA2. What they really should have done was work on the multiplayer aspect bc it was a downgrade from XML2.
Sparta*
03-29-2007, 08:10 PM
Dr.Doom is going to be strange.....
So are the new characters going to have their own training missions?
JustABill
03-29-2007, 08:19 PM
Haha. Hope so. Magneto should have a mission against the X-Men in the game. :up:
And Doom one against the Fantastic Four. :D
Lane Myer
03-29-2007, 08:52 PM
I am really looking forward to using the new characters, especially Hawkeye. Cyke, Nightcrawler, and Magneto were all playable in Legends 2, I am more excited about the new ones. Does anyone know if they will have any more team combos with the new characters?
Robin's Holyisms
03-30-2007, 01:30 AM
I am really looking forward to using the new characters, especially Hawkeye. Cyke, Nightcrawler, and Magneto were all playable in Legends 2, I am more excited about the new ones. Does anyone know if they will have any more team combos with the new characters?
Yes there will be more team combos with the DLC additions.
JustABill
03-30-2007, 07:36 AM
I want to see everyone's skins.
Nathan
03-30-2007, 07:44 AM
What Skins do you think Venom will get? I probably think Ultimate Venom without the Spider, Gargan Venom, Venom with blue/purple tint?
I can't really think of anything because he never had a costume change. And Carnage/Toxin wouldn't work because the modell is too big.
JustABill
03-30-2007, 07:48 AM
Hmm. Venom will probably have his Ultimate look, Mac Gargan, Venom from the movie, and then his traditional one.
Nathan
03-30-2007, 07:49 AM
Oh yeah, totally forgot the Movie version.
JustABill
03-30-2007, 07:54 AM
I hope they have a Joseph skin for Magneto. That'd be sexxors.
Nathan
03-30-2007, 07:58 AM
I hope Raven took some inspirations from other games. I'd love to have this move in the game.
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9089/venom13cv3.gif (http://imageshack.us)
JustABill
03-30-2007, 08:13 AM
When they come out on the 10th my team is so gonna be...
Venom
Hawkeye
Cyclops
Magneto. :D
Nathan
03-30-2007, 08:20 AM
I already decided that I'll make a full Avengers Team.
- Captain America
- Hawkeye
- Iron Man
- Thor
JustABill
03-30-2007, 08:21 AM
I wonder if Hulk will speak intelligently while bashing or be ''HULK SMASH!" ''HULK NO LIKE PUNY HUMAN." ''HULK HAVE BLOCKBUSTER DISASTER! TRY COMMIT SUICIDE BY PILE DRIVE YOU."
Nathan
03-30-2007, 08:24 AM
It would be great if each skin actually got different quotes. But that's probably too much too ask more. But it would be nice to have intelligent Hulk and Mr. Fixit talk.
Storm22
03-30-2007, 10:33 AM
I think I'll first use Magneto, Cyclops, Nightcrawler and Hawkeye when I get the download pack.
I already decided that I'll make a full Avengers Team.
- Captain America
- Hawkeye
- Iron Man
- Thor
Damn Straight!
Sparta*
03-30-2007, 12:50 PM
I'm going to rock Doom Venom Hulk and Cyke first. I dunno when i'm going to be getting an XBOX though lol I want to see what you guys think first...and I want to see many many screenshots/videos!!
Aren't there supposed to be new missions as well? With the addition of Nightcrawler, I tend to think that fighting dark Phoenix will be one of them.
Nathan
03-30-2007, 12:54 PM
I just hate the thought that I'll have to wait weeks, probably month before they'll release a mod for the PC version. :(
JustABill
03-30-2007, 01:20 PM
Heh. -pets 360-
Savage
03-30-2007, 01:23 PM
:D
I can't wait to have Cage, The Thing, Colossus, and Hulk all on the same team. :D
JustABill
03-30-2007, 01:28 PM
Found this....
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4126/hulkwallpaperqg9.jpg
Sparta*
03-30-2007, 01:49 PM
........
Sweet!
Savage
03-30-2007, 01:55 PM
Awesome. Hope a VS mode is included in the downloadable conent. One can dream.
Nathan
03-30-2007, 01:56 PM
Me like. :up:
Robin's Holyisms
03-30-2007, 03:35 PM
I wonder when pictures of Nightcrawler are going to be released.
JustABill
03-30-2007, 05:23 PM
The main site for M:UA had it up. :D
Sparta*
03-30-2007, 07:07 PM
Well...I bought a 360
I'm so weak
WorthyStevens
03-30-2007, 07:13 PM
How the hell is Hulk gonna fit on the main character screen? :eek:
Savage
03-30-2007, 07:19 PM
Well...I bought a 360
I'm so weak
...*claps* :)
And Hulk will probably be standing face to face with The Thing. I really want to see how they organize this though because the screen is pretty crowded.
Sparta*
03-30-2007, 07:24 PM
Are the downloadables confirmed for April 10th?
JustABill
03-30-2007, 08:59 PM
Are the downloadables confirmed for April 10th?
Yeah. I believe so.
Sparta*
03-31-2007, 04:09 AM
Yeah. I believe so.
Where was it mentioned the downloadables will be out on the 10th?? :huh:
Robin's Holyisms
03-31-2007, 07:42 AM
Where was it mentioned the downloadables will be out on the 10th?? :huh:
For those who missed out on the action, last week Activision announced it will sell three add-on packs, a Heroes pack containing The Hulk, Cyclops, Nightcrawler and Hawkeye, a Villains pack including Venom, Magneto Sabretooth, and Doctor Doom, and a combined pack of both. All three packs will be available on Xbox Live Marketplace, Tuesday, April 10.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/776/776548p1.html
Nathan
03-31-2007, 07:45 AM
Man, I'm this far from buying a used 360.
JustABill
03-31-2007, 12:57 PM
Man, I'm this far from buying a used 360.
You'd have to buy a hard drive too. I don't think any of the used ones come with a hard drive. At least not at my EB Games/Gamestops.
Storm22
03-31-2007, 01:29 PM
Edit
Sparta*
03-31-2007, 02:28 PM
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/776/776548p1.html
Awesome :up:
I forgot which interview I read but they said this is the "first" expansion being released for this game, so I really hope they make some more. Namor, Vision, Beast...and maybe a little Jean Grey or Psylocke would make this game unstoppable :up:
Savage
03-31-2007, 02:50 PM
Downloadable skins from different eras would rock too. I'd love some House of M and Age of Apocalypse skins to become downloadable sometime. Maybe even missions or storylines in those respective worlds.
There doesn't seem to be any plans for MUA2 at the moment so I'd love for em to keep milking this one and making it better. :up:
Robin's Holyisms
03-31-2007, 06:14 PM
Awesome :up:
I forgot which interview I read but they said this is the "first" expansion being released for this game, so I really hope they make some more. Namor, Vision, Beast...and maybe a little Jean Grey or Psylocke would make this game unstoppable :up:
Well if they do make more DLC i wouldn't want to see anymore X-Men it i believe we have enough of those guys in there now.
I would like to see these characters in future DLC packs.:
Iron Fist (They already have coding for him in the game. he's also one of the most wanted Non- X-Men characters.)
Nova
Sentry
Ant Man
The Punisher (If they could get the licensing situation sorted out)
And if they still can't get The Punisher in the DLC i would want Namor or Black Bolt.
She-Hulk (Since she hasn't been used since the 1997 Fantastic Four Playstation game.)
Wasp
Scarlet Witch
Black Cat
Silver Sable
Savage
03-31-2007, 09:53 PM
Iron Fist (They already have coding for him in the game.
They do? :confused:
Robin's Holyisms
04-01-2007, 04:59 AM
They do? :confused:
Yes it was mentioned on the MUA VIP site ages ago.
They also have coding for Longshot in the game as well.
Since him and Iron Fist were originally going to be PSP characters.
The Geek Vault
04-01-2007, 12:04 PM
Hey guys,
I just beat the game and I have a few questions. At the end of the game the watcher explains how things can be altered. Is there a way I can go back and fix my mistakes (ie go back and save Lilandra and also sacrifice Jean Grey instead of NightCrawler and Get the orb for Wong?) How do I do this to got back to the Shi'ar?
Mister J
04-01-2007, 12:14 PM
You have to start another game and just make different choices.
JustABill
04-01-2007, 12:43 PM
Sony really is in a sad state of affairs when they have to have exclusives in not only the PSP games, but the PS3 games. :o
The Geek Vault
04-01-2007, 01:27 PM
You have to start another game and just make different choices. Really darn, I was under the impression that you could go back and change things for instance, I never got Wong's orb that he wanted, Can I still give that to him?
Mister J
04-01-2007, 01:31 PM
I don't see why not. I recall doing something like that after the fact (in the XML games as well). However, it's not going to give you another set of Uatu's conclusions unless you go through another round of gameplay.
Havok83
04-01-2007, 01:57 PM
Sony really is in a sad state of affairs when they have to have exclusives in not only the PSP games, but the PS3 games. :o
how is that a sad thing? Its called smart marketing and great news for owners of the system. Anyways this is a weak argument when the topic being discussed is DLC in this game and thats exclusive to the 360 (at least for now)
Robin's Holyisms
04-01-2007, 02:02 PM
Really darn, I was under the impression that you could go back and change things for instance, I never got Wong's orb that he wanted, Can I still give that to him?
No you will have to start a new game first because once you move on from Mephisto's Realm and you miss the Eye of the Shadow Queen.
but try to get it lateron and return it to Wong it will not be acknowleged.
JustABill
04-01-2007, 02:18 PM
Moot point. Ultimate Alliance. Best selling superhero game on 360. 360 been out for a year, doesn't need exclusives.
PS3 out less than year. Already getting ''exclusive" content. IE Harry playable in Spider-Man 3.
It is sad.
Nathan
04-01-2007, 02:19 PM
I'm really hoping the add-on will be a success. I'd love to get more characters, especially Super Skrull.
jaydawg
04-01-2007, 03:47 PM
They should make a Spider-man add-on to coincide with the movie. Green Goblin man. Green Goblin.
JustABill
04-01-2007, 03:57 PM
Eh. I'd rather wait till M:UA2 for Goblin, that way he can get his true dues.
jaydawg
04-01-2007, 04:05 PM
I'm with you on that one. MUA2 looks like it actually might be another villain/hero collaberation if the villain expansion is any indication. I just wish we had some freaking news on it.
WorthyStevens
04-01-2007, 04:23 PM
I don't know about an MUA2 right now.
With Fantastic 4's and Iron Man's game rights sealed to different companies and therefore Raven can't use them, I think we might be seeing XML3 next.
Hulk is one thing, but when you lost the rights to 2 of your most popular Marvel groups...
Sparta*
04-01-2007, 05:00 PM
Wait a second...the PS3 is going to be getting exclusive characters for MUA??
Sparta*
04-01-2007, 05:07 PM
Moot point. Ultimate Alliance. Best selling superhero game on 360. 360 been out for a year, doesn't need exclusives.
PS3 out less than year. Already getting ''exclusive" content. IE Harry playable in Spider-Man 3.
It is sad.
That could be because Sony studios is releasing Spider-man 3. They naturally want to give themselves the edge. I dunno if that will be the case for other ps3 games.
Robin's Holyisms
04-01-2007, 05:50 PM
I don't know about an MUA2 right now.
With Fantastic 4's and Iron Man's game rights sealed to different companies and therefore Raven can't use them, I think we might be seeing XML3 next.
Hulk is one thing, but when you lost the rights to 2 of your most popular Marvel groups...
Ghost Rider is also licensed with another company.
Havok83
04-01-2007, 05:58 PM
Moot point. Ultimate Alliance. Best selling superhero game on 360. 360 been out for a year, doesn't need exclusives.
PS3 out less than year. Already getting ''exclusive" content. IE Harry playable in Spider-Man 3.
It is sad.
except 360 IS getting exclusives.
JustABill
04-01-2007, 06:03 PM
Sony fan boys. -roll eyes-
Havok83
04-01-2007, 06:32 PM
Sony fan boys. -roll eyes-
whatever. I dont get involved in this stupid "fanboy" my system is better than yours nonsensce bc Im too old for that and think its all juvenile and silly. Im simply stating the facts that you are harping on teh fact that its sad that the PS3 has exclusives in SM3, yet dont see the same with the 360 which has exclusive content in MUA? Thats a fact. Its not sad for either company. This is a business and both should do whatever they can to get ahead. Its smart and if at the end of the day their games translate into sales and money then thats all they care about.
spideyboy_1111
04-01-2007, 06:54 PM
if MUA2 is a heroes vs. villains thing.. then the game better be a Civil War/Secret War/earth vs. Galactus combination to make it make sense... after all, who would be the villains then?
civil war or Secret war would be cool, if you picked a certain amount of people to be on your "huge team" and whoever wasnt in your chooseable roster were the villains who you'd fight in the game
The Geek Vault
04-01-2007, 07:26 PM
No you will have to start a new game first because once you move on from Mephisto's Realm and you miss the Eye of the Shadow Queen.
but try to get it lateron and return it to Wong it will not be acknowleged.
So getting the orb of the shadow queen doesn't save Night Crawler? How do I save him, and what happens if I save Jean Grey?
spideyboy_1111
04-01-2007, 07:30 PM
So getting the orb of the shadow queen doesn't save Night Crawler? How do I save him, and what happens if I save Jean Grey?
if you save jean, mystique ends up killing Xavier for letting her son die... if you save Nightcrawler, jean attacks the X-men as dark phoenix
Storm22
04-01-2007, 07:31 PM
I can see us getting an XML3 next onevr an MUA2.
spideyboy_1111
04-01-2007, 07:42 PM
XML3 better have every playble character from X-men Legends 1 and 2, including the psp exclusives
Havok83
04-01-2007, 07:53 PM
if MUA2 is a heroes vs. villains thing.. then the game better be a Civil War/Secret War/earth vs. Galactus combination to make it make sense... after all, who would be the villains then?
civil war or Secret war would be cool, if you picked a certain amount of people to be on your "huge team" and whoever wasnt in your chooseable roster were the villains who you'd fight in the game
I REALLY hate the idea of MUA being a heroes/villians game. I hated that concept when it was implemented in XML2
JustABill
04-01-2007, 07:59 PM
XML3 better have every playble character from X-men Legends 1 and 2, including the psp exclusives
As long as
Angel
Kitty Pryde
Polaris
Havok
and more added to the playables.
spideyboy_1111
04-01-2007, 08:10 PM
I REALLY hate the idea of MUA being a heroes/villians game. I hated that concept when it was implemented in XML2
why? alot of people want to play as villains.. in XML2 it made sense.. and honestly only way it'd work in the MUA games would be a secret war where you pic heroes or villains, or civil war where you pic a side or for some reason the only villains are space ones, and you ban together to save earth
spideyboy_1111
04-01-2007, 08:32 PM
-Archangel (with angel skins) (it'd have to be for conintuity since he is archangel in the games now)
-Havok (now that he should be off probation for betraying the X-men in XML1)
-Polaris would be a great addition
-Kitty i still don't know about... they'd have to limit her phasing, but i honestly don't see her having very many moves..
as for others..
Xorn, banshee, thunderbird...
i would also love a Marvel game were the heroes are rendered helpless and its up to marvels youth to save the day... the players would be...
The Runaways: Nico, Chase, Gerty, old lace, Victor, Molly, Karolina, Xavin
Young Avengers: Hulkling, Wiccan, Patriot, Hawkeye, Stature, Speed, Vision (iron Lad alternate costume)
New X-men: Elixer, Rockslide, Mercury, X-23, Icarus, Dust, Hellion, Surge, Anole, the Stepford Cuckoos (play as one, but 2 follow your character),Bling, pixie, armor
Ramdom Arana, Power Pack, Franklin Richards, Speedball, Namorita
jaydawg
04-01-2007, 11:16 PM
I think the F4 & Iron Man thing doesnt apply. Spidey has actively been an Activision exclusive since the late 90s... yet, you can see him in other titles not made by them, noticably the Marvel Nemesis series which is by EA. The sequel is even coming out this year. I think it just means Activision cant make a game solely about Iron Man or the F4.
JustABill
04-02-2007, 05:14 AM
A game featuring just the young kids of the Marvel Universe would never sell according to Marvel so they'd never make it.
Nathan
04-02-2007, 05:20 AM
I know I wouldn't like it. I'd want to play as the original characters, and not copycats like the young avengers.
Halcohol
04-02-2007, 05:32 AM
A game featuring just the young kids of the Marvel Universe would never sell according to Marvel so they'd never make it.
According to Marvel and... that other thing... oh yeah, common sense. :p
JustABill
04-02-2007, 05:53 AM
The Young Avengers are some pretty awesome copy cats though, I wouldn't mind them in the games.
Sparta*
04-02-2007, 11:29 AM
Best avatar ever Halcohol :up: The Flames will clean up this year
Red mile all the way!!
and oh yeah....MUA will rule on 360 :up:
The Geek Vault
04-02-2007, 02:03 PM
if you save jean, mystique ends up killing Xavier for letting her son die... if you save Nightcrawler, jean attacks the X-men as dark phoenix So which one gives you the better outcome?
Robin's Holyisms
04-02-2007, 02:37 PM
So which one gives you the better outcome?
Neither choice gives you a better ending.
Havok83
04-02-2007, 04:15 PM
why? alot of people want to play as villains.. in XML2 it made sense.. and honestly only way it'd work in the MUA games would be a secret war where you pic heroes or villains, or civil war where you pic a side or for some reason the only villains are space ones, and you ban together to save earth
alot of people felt that way about XML2, until it actually came out. With the exception of Scarlet Witch, the villians were boring and uninspired. The biggest complaint was that the inclusion of villains took up spots which would have been occupied by X-men which people mainly wanted to play. I dont mind villians being included as extra content like they are doing now, but I want the main focus to be on the heroes. I hope if and when XML3 is released they do away with making hte Brotherhood playable.
Havok83
04-02-2007, 04:24 PM
I think the F4 & Iron Man thing doesnt apply. Spidey has actively been an Activision exclusive since the late 90s... yet, you can see him in other titles not made by them, noticably the Marvel Nemesis series which is by EA. The sequel is even coming out this year. I think it just means Activision cant make a game solely about Iron Man or the F4.
actually it might. It depends on what kind of deal was signed. The only reason why the Hulk wasnt included from the getgo was bc Universal held the rights to the character and its only now that that deal has ended that they could include him
Halcohol
04-02-2007, 04:39 PM
Best avatar ever Halcohol :up: The Flames will clean up this year
Red mile all the way!!
and oh yeah....MUA will rule on 360 :up:
This guy's cool with me :up:
Horrorfan
04-02-2007, 07:32 PM
alot of people felt that way about XML2, until it actually came out. With the exception of Scarlet Witch, the villians were boring and uninspired. The biggest complaint was that the inclusion of villains took up spots which would have been occupied by X-men which people mainly wanted to play. I dont mind villians being included as extra content like they are doing now, but I want the main focus to be on the heroes. I hope if and when XML3 is released they do away with making hte Brotherhood playable.
Yeah who needs variety and crap? :whatever:
Havok83
04-02-2007, 08:09 PM
Yeah who needs variety and crap? :whatever:
heres plenty of variety to be done with the numerous heroes that were left out of this game. Activision has over 40 years worth of characters to choose from
spideyboy_1111
04-02-2007, 08:17 PM
just because they have 40 years worth of characters doesnt mean much... who the hell wants to play as type face, armadillo, or agatha harkness? lol...
Havok83
04-02-2007, 08:21 PM
just because they have 40 years worth of characters doesnt mean much... who the hell wants to play as type face, armadillo, or agatha harkness? lol...
now you are taking my quote way too literally. I know people defiently wanted to play as Iron Fist, Psylocke, Hawkeye, Punisher, Namor, She-hulk, etc....
spideyboy_1111
04-02-2007, 08:35 PM
well ya, but still including villains is a good idea too, cuz there just as much part of fandom as the heroes. and the're not going to add 20 new characters to the game, but we can hope for more expansions if this does well...
namor, psylocke, phoenix, and iron fist would indeed be the next logical choices
Robin's Holyisms
04-03-2007, 10:33 AM
Nightcrawler, Hawkeye, The Hulk, Cyclops.
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7560/747newstoryimage5606676th3.jpg
Spidey and The Hulk kicking butt.
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/7899/747newstoryimage5606697ha9.jpg
Thor, Cyclops, The Hulk, and Hawkeye.
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4452/747newstoryimage5606757gx8.jpg
Venom's costume attacking some low rent bad guy
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9945/747newstoryimage5606779jd0.jpg
Marvel.com will be announcing what costumes and additional achievements we'll be getting all this weekso you got to keep checking the site.
http://www.marvel.com/news/vgstories.959
Savage
04-03-2007, 11:07 AM
I hope some of these are just early shots because they sure look unpolished for 360 games. Like Venom's tentacles for example.
Nathan
04-03-2007, 11:14 AM
Why is he purple? :(
Sparta*
04-03-2007, 01:47 PM
In that third pic Hulk has brown pants........that better not be an alternate costume.
Havok83
04-03-2007, 01:52 PM
Why is he purple? :(
he's purple in the Ult-universe. I hope they improve on Sabretooth bc in XML2, he was EXACTLY like Wolverine
Sparta*
04-03-2007, 01:57 PM
I'm sure they will. In one of the screenshots he's doing a move that Wolverine doesn't have.
Storm22
04-03-2007, 05:24 PM
I'm sure they will. In one of the screenshots he's doing a move that Wolverine doesn't have.
Well he's doing a different kind of slash attack by the looks of it, pretty much like Wolverine.
Savage
04-03-2007, 05:32 PM
Well there is only so much you can do with a hack and slash character. Maybe they'll play up his bruiser status.
Sparta*
04-03-2007, 07:28 PM
Honestly though...they could have put Beast in instead of Sabretooth...he could have had the same moves practically. I don't know how I feel about the villains in MUA. In XML2 I wasn't sure but it turned out okay...in MUA I think I would have preferred only heroes. But I guess Venom, Sabretooth, and Magneto all have been 'good' at one point or another...I dont know about doc doom though...he still seems like the strangest choice to me.
Havok83
04-03-2007, 08:16 PM
Honestly though...they could have put Beast in instead of Sabretooth...he could have had the same moves practically. I don't know how I feel about the villains in MUA. In XML2 I wasn't sure but it turned out okay...in MUA I think I would have preferred only heroes. But I guess Venom, Sabretooth, and Magneto all have been 'good' at one point or another...I dont know about doc doom though...he still seems like the strangest choice to me.
villians in MUA, not a good idea. Villians in MUA via downloadable content is a good idea. I dont have any problem with it this way bc its all extra and they are releasing heroes. as well. You dont have to get the villians pack as they are offered seperately
jaydawg
04-03-2007, 11:08 PM
I dunno, the ending of MUA was similar to the end of XML. Both laid plans for a giantic enemy, one who required a union of heroes and villains. If the expansion pack is an indication, I hope this is the plan.
spideyboy_1111
04-03-2007, 11:22 PM
it'd be cool if the sequal for XML and MUA combined... to fight Sinister and Galactus to make a really HUGE Alliance
JustABill
04-03-2007, 11:58 PM
That'd be OVER kill. How would Sinister and Galactus team up?
Colossal Spoons
04-04-2007, 12:03 AM
Agreed. With Galactus on your team, you should never lose.
click my sig :up:
spideyboy_1111
04-04-2007, 12:11 AM
hey now... most of the villains are just random anyway, and would never logically team up... for instance.. Lizard? they just take a bunch of villains and randomly stick them into these games
Savage
04-04-2007, 02:06 AM
Actually this could be the perfect opportunity to put in the Thunderbolts. Both new and old. Thunderbolts is for villains what Avengers are for heroes kinda thing.
JustABill
04-04-2007, 02:15 AM
New info on Hulk and Sabretooth is up at Marvel.Com
http://www.marvel.com/news/vgstories.957
-runs to read-
JustABill
04-04-2007, 02:17 AM
That was....uhhhmmm....kind of a let down.
spideyboy_1111
04-04-2007, 02:22 AM
Thunderbolts are just kinda a group of rogue villains turned heroes, the masters of evil are a better reversal comparison
Savage
04-04-2007, 02:28 AM
I wish Sabretooth wasn't made faster. Stronger, yes, but speed is Wolverine's advantage. This Sabretooth pretty much makes Wolverine obsolete.
Hulk has Juggernaut's ability to grow larger as he fights so I'm happy. :up:
Robin's Holyisms
04-04-2007, 02:50 AM
Here's the list of the new achievments:
Gamma Garb
Unlocked all the outfits for the Hulk.
Archer Apparel
Unlocked all the outfits for Hawkeye.
Optic Outfits
Unlocked all the outfits for Cyclops.
Teleport Threads
Unlocked all the outfits for Nightcrawler
Doom's Duds
Unlocked all the outfits for Doom.
Magnetic Regalia
Unlocked all the outfits for Magneto.
Symbiote Skins
Unlocked all the outfits for Venom.
Creed's Cloth
Unlocked all the outfits for Sabretooth.
Mutant Love
Cyclops has spoken with Jean.
Doppelgänger
Doom has spoken with himself.
Wrong Claws
Sabretooth has been mistaken for Wolverine.
Fleeting Allies
Magneto has spoken to Xavier.
These achievements can be seen if u look at a friends gamercard on the x-box forums anyone who's has played M:UA,will have these new achivements on there list.
spideyboy_1111
04-04-2007, 03:16 AM
what do they mean with talking? are they like codes to make the characters talk to others?
I think it means in-game, like when you talk to Vison or Pym
spideyboy_1111
04-04-2007, 03:46 AM
ahh.. wierd that you need to unlock them though... you think just playin the game would do that?
Robin's Holyisms
04-04-2007, 04:49 AM
I think it means in-game, like when you talk to Vison or Pym
Yes it's like when your character has a conversation with
Hank Pym, Vision, or any other NPC character.
JustABill
04-04-2007, 05:29 AM
How could anyone confused Sabretooth for Logan?
Havok83
04-04-2007, 04:39 PM
it'd be cool if the sequal for XML and MUA combined... to fight Sinister and Galactus to make a really HUGE Alliance
I sure hope not. Then even less of the characters would be returning and really why would they make a game thats half Marvel heroes and half X-men? That would essentially be a Marvel game with an overkill of X-men and people already were up in arms with 4 X-men being included here. Just imagine how it would be if they took up half the cast
Robin's Holyisms
04-04-2007, 05:17 PM
Marvel Ultimate Alliance Double Feature: Dr. Doom & Hawkeye
http://www.marvel.com/news/vgstories.953
Savage
04-04-2007, 05:39 PM
Awesome stuff so far. Doom's extreme sounds great...Aside from the dancing.
JustABill
04-04-2007, 07:09 PM
Yeah. WTF with the dancing? Maybe playable Doom is actually Loki? o_O
Charlie No-One
04-04-2007, 07:14 PM
If you read the star at the bottom of the page it tells you that they don't really dance.
Savage
04-04-2007, 07:17 PM
Oh goodie. :)
spideyboy_1111
04-04-2007, 08:00 PM
I sure hope not. Then even less of the characters would be returning and really why would they make a game thats half Marvel heroes and half X-men? That would essentially be a Marvel game with an overkill of X-men and people already were up in arms with 4 X-men being included here. Just imagine how it would be if they took up half the cast
ummm you do know games do hve enough capacity to have a huge line up... 50+ people could really honestly fit and be playable on these games.
for a "real ultimate alliance" i would have ....
-Captain America
-Iron Man
-Hulk
-Thor
-Hank pym (shrink and grow) antman/giant man
-wasp (she wouldnt be playable, but would follow around pym and do attacks with him (think ice climbers)
-Scarlet Witch
-Vision
-Spider-woman
-black panther
-luke cage
-doctor strange
-ms. marvel
-quicksilver
-Spider-man
-Namor
-Mr. Fantastic
-invisible woman
-the thing
-human torch
-daredevil
-elektra
-deadpool
-cable
-wolverine
-cyclops
-phoenix
-colossus
-iceman
-nightcrawler
-beast
-storm
-rogue
-psylocke
-prof X (in hover chair skin is a must)
-Angel
-forge
-bishop
-cannon ball
-gambit
-havok
-banshee
-sunfire
-jubilee
-emma frost
-sasquatch
-snow bird
-northstar (or quicksilver skin)
-guardian
-black bolt
-medusa
-crystal
-captain britain
-long shot
-blade
-captain marvel
-sentry
-moon knight
-ghostrider
-iron fist
-ronin
-hulkling
-wiccan (or make him a scarlet witch skin)
-kate bishop (or make her a hawkeye skin)
-Patriot (or make him a captain america skin)
-speed (or make him a quicksilver skin)
-stature (or make her a pym skin)
-black cat
-she-hulk (or make her a hulk skin)
-wonderman
-hercules (who could be a luke cage skin)
-nick fury
-punisher
-silver surfer
-nova
this would be a real ultimate alliance... thats roughly 76 to 77 people...
-9 could be skins
-46 have been in games, or been set up to be in a game but were swapped out (longshot and angel), or were pretty much playable, because they followed you around (havok) so its not hard at all for them to bring them over
-and only 21 would have to be made from scratch
but thats an ultimate alliance.. and pretty much how they marketed the game..when in reality there really wasnt as many playables as they let it seem
Savage
04-04-2007, 08:15 PM
I'm actually really liking the Wasp and Yellowjacket teamup idea actually. They've always worked best as a tag-team anyway.
That could make a great new feature actually. Tag team attacks. Like actually a whole entire new set of moves made just for that such as Wolverine's fastball special instead of having to ask someone to throw you. Assign certain characters to other characters such as Captain America and Falcon and really get some good stuff going. Colossus and Shadowcat would also work really well. Throw in North Star and Aurora as well and Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. Good stuff. :up:
As for skins, I'd love to have Hercules in there with an Aries skin. Or even Aries with a Hercules skin. Either way they can all work well as Luke Cage skins as like you mentioned. :D Maybe even Hulk skins.
spideyboy_1111
04-04-2007, 08:31 PM
i figured wasp you'd always see buzzing around pym... or she'd shrink when ever he does a move... i got the idea of that for her with dr. stranges "pixie" move... where pixies fly around him until they see someone to attack
Savage
04-04-2007, 08:35 PM
That's a great idea but Yellowjacket can shrink as well and I'd really like to see what they can pull off together.
JustABill
04-04-2007, 08:58 PM
Yeah. I love Janet and I'd want her to be playable on her lonesome.
spideyboy_1111
04-04-2007, 09:17 PM
janet alone seems kinda boring imo though... plus she'd be hard to see.. with pym he can atleast shrink during an attack, stay medium, or grow and attack
Savage
04-04-2007, 10:38 PM
They can have tag-team attacks where they grow and shrink while beating on an opponent. :D It would look pretty spectacular. On their own their attacks aren't much but putting the two characters together can make for some explosive results.
jaydawg
04-04-2007, 10:42 PM
I'd argue that Janet shows more versatility than Hank in a game. She has projectile Wasp blasts. She can grow AND shrink. Since Activision is one to mix continuities, whose to say that Giant Girl wouldnt make an apperance. I'd love to see both characters get a chance to shine (I think this would be their first playable time in a video game), but Wasp does kinda kill two birds with one stone.
spideyboy_1111
04-04-2007, 10:52 PM
well considering 616 janet, to my knowledge has only grown once... i don't see that happening.. and i think the "iceclimbers" effect would be much cooler, esp seeing wasp flying around hank all the time
MangleBoP
04-05-2007, 01:39 PM
YellowJacket/Goliath: Shrinks, flies, blasts, talks to bugs, grows.
Wasp: Shrinks, flies, blasts, grew once, doesn't talk to bugs. (I don't think she does)
Savage
04-05-2007, 02:27 PM
Yellowjackets can blast? :confused: Maybe if he made himself a laser or something I guess.
Johnny Drama
04-05-2007, 02:51 PM
Super excited for the bonus expansion pack. She-Hulk, Sentry and at least 4 of the young avengers would have been a welcome addition as well.
Robin's Holyisms
04-05-2007, 02:53 PM
MUA Heroes and Villains Themes
Heroes Theme 1
http://www.dashboardthemes.com/theme/Marvel-Ultimate-Alliance/heroes-theme-1
Heroes Theme 2
http://www.dashboardthemes.com/theme/Marvel-Ultimate-Alliance/heroes-theme-2
Heroes Theme 3
http://www.dashboardthemes.com/theme/Marvel-Ultimate-Alliance/heroes-theme-3
Villains Theme 1
http://www.dashboardthemes.com/theme/Marvel-Ultimate-Alliance/villains-theme-1
So what Themes are you guys going to get?
Havok83
04-05-2007, 02:55 PM
Super excited for the bonus expansion pack. She-Hulk, Sentry and at least 4 of the young avengers would have been a welcome addition as well.
I dont think the Young Avengers should be added. If anything they would make great skins for existing characters kind of like how War Machine, Spider-girl, Arachne, etc.. are in the game via skins
Johnny Drama
04-05-2007, 03:24 PM
I dont think the Young Avengers should be added. If anything they would make great skins for existing characters kind of like how War Machine, Spider-girl, Arachne, etc.. are in the game via skins
I think Ironlad would be a great playable character, have Krang as his skin.
Hulklings various skins would be interesting as well.
ProjectPat2280
04-05-2007, 03:34 PM
MUA Heroes and Villains Themes
Heroes Theme 1
http://www.dashboardthemes.com/theme/Marvel-Ultimate-Alliance/heroes-theme-1
Heroes Theme 2
http://www.dashboardthemes.com/theme/Marvel-Ultimate-Alliance/heroes-theme-2
Heroes Theme 3
http://www.dashboardthemes.com/theme/Marvel-Ultimate-Alliance/heroes-theme-3
Villains Theme 1
http://www.dashboardthemes.com/theme/Marvel-Ultimate-Alliance/villains-theme-1
So what Themes are you guys going to get?
If i go with one, i think itll be the first one.
Sparta*
04-05-2007, 03:42 PM
I'd go with Doc Doom :up: I can't deny he looks beef in MUA, and plus that Cap is Ultimate Cap so boo-urns to that
spideyboy_1111
04-05-2007, 03:43 PM
I think Ironlad would be a great playable character, have Krang as his skin.
Hulklings various skins would be interesting as well.
you mean Kang... Krang is the brain dude from Teenage Mutants Ninja Turtles
ProjectPat2280
04-05-2007, 06:34 PM
you mean Kang... Krang is the brain dude from Teenage Mutants Ninja Turtles
Haha, i always thought it was Craig.
spideyboy_1111
04-05-2007, 06:57 PM
... i don't know anymore.. but it has a R... and least sound like Krang or Kraig or who knows
jaydawg
04-05-2007, 07:18 PM
YellowJacket/Goliath: Shrinks, flies, blasts, talks to bugs, grows.
Wasp: Shrinks, flies, blasts, grew once, doesn't talk to bugs. (I don't think she does)
Um, when has Hank ever had blasts? Wasp can do all the things he can and more. She's even led the Avengers too. I think she'd rock solo. Besides, I seriously doubt that Activision would tie these two up... much less even make one of them playable.... that would require some form of originality. :whatever:
Sparta*
04-05-2007, 07:28 PM
Haha, i always thought it was Craig.
hahaha the evil alien overlord's name isn't Craig lol! It was definatley Krang.
JustABill
04-05-2007, 09:00 PM
http://marvel.com/news/vgstories.967
Information on Cyclops and Magneto is up now.
WorthyStevens
04-05-2007, 10:12 PM
Um, when has Hank ever had blasts? Wasp can do all the things he can and more. She's even led the Avengers too. I think she'd rock solo. Besides, I seriously doubt that Activision would tie these two up... much less even make one of them playable.... that would require some form of originality. :whatever:
Or non-laziness. Putting Sabretooth in when nobody wanted him just screams that they were lazy and just used him from XML2.
Sparta*
04-05-2007, 10:25 PM
There is a new screenshot up as well. It shows Nightcrawler :up:
Savage
04-05-2007, 10:28 PM
I wanted Sabretooth. :(
Savage your pants are on fire.
Havok83
04-06-2007, 06:13 AM
Sabretooth could have been a skin for Wolverine
Savage
04-06-2007, 09:26 AM
Yeah, that's true but he wasn't. :D Eh, I would have enjoyed this more if there was an actual vs. mode to pit them against each other in. :( I just hope they make Sabretooth as different from Wolverine as Venom is from Spider-man. Venom looks like a bruiser type so I'm hoping the same can be said for Sabretooth.
Robin's Holyisms
04-06-2007, 11:02 AM
Marvel Ultimate Alliance Double Feature: Venom & Nightcrawler
http://www.marvel.com/news/vgstories.910
Horrorfan
04-06-2007, 11:04 AM
Or non-laziness. Putting Sabretooth in when nobody wanted him just screams that they were lazy and just used him from XML2.
I wanted sabretooth damn it, much more than angel :cmad: :oldrazz:
Charlie No-One
04-06-2007, 11:17 AM
Um, when has Hank ever had blasts? Wasp can do all the things he can and more. She's even led the Avengers too. I think she'd rock solo. Besides, I seriously doubt that Activision would tie these two up... much less even make one of them playable.... that would require some form of originality. :whatever:
As Yellowjacket, his gauntlets have energy blasts in them.
Sparta*
04-06-2007, 01:39 PM
Nightcrawler's extreme attack is going to be called 'Roundup' ?! That's pretty lame...they just copied Magneto's metallic mayhem from XML2 so they should have just used Nightcrawlers from the same game because Master of Chaos sounds way better then Roundup lol
Also, the site says we may be surprised by Venom's costumes.......Carnage anyone?
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