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Balthus Dire
02-18-2008, 07:06 PM
Allllllllllllllllrighty then!
cerealkiller182
02-18-2008, 07:21 PM
Ithink you should have to answer questions at the beginning regarding those sub-mission deals where the Watcher mentioned all the things you had effects in the universe, that way you set up a personal universe. Like if you sacrificed Nightcrawler or Jean, you saved that character in the second one.
Balthus Dire
02-18-2008, 07:33 PM
I thought it was kinda dumb how you never got to save them both. I figured you'd save one again in a later mission or something.
I never got the expansion, though...how did they handle that storyline while maintaining Nightcrawler as a playable character?
cerealkiller182
02-18-2008, 07:35 PM
Didnt realize they included him. Has the game creators say theres no way to do both. I think theres might still be a way.
Ryuuie
02-19-2008, 04:01 AM
The only way you can save both Jean AND Nightcrawler is in the GBA version. Nightcrawler's spirit is held in Mephisto's Realm and Jean is held in Murder World.
You can pick which one you go save first, and then get called off to Asgard, but the thing is you also have to go to Murder World and finish that level. So you end up saving them both (and unlocking Jean Grey as a Striker to help you out).
See? I told you I played it, and it's HORRIBLE. lol
Havok83
02-19-2008, 05:38 AM
I thought it was kinda dumb how you never got to save them both. I figured you'd save one again in a later mission or something.
I never got the expansion, though...how did they handle that storyline while maintaining Nightcrawler as a playable character?
Ignored it
uchiha_itachi
02-19-2008, 05:58 AM
Didnt realize they included him. Has the game creators say theres no way to do both. I think theres might still be a way.
Theres not, remeber which ever one you dont save get cooked in lava
Hypestyle
02-19-2008, 09:43 AM
is there any way to save Lilandra, and avoid the "west coast gets destroyed" future at the end epilogue?
cerealkiller182
02-19-2008, 09:46 AM
i saved lilandra i think. Dont you just beat the crap out of her restraints.
Balthus Dire
02-19-2008, 10:01 AM
Yep, you can save her.
uchiha_itachi
02-19-2008, 11:05 AM
Pretty sure i saved her.
Nathan
02-19-2008, 11:07 AM
Yeah, it just takes a while to trash the console. For some reason I have a very easy time with Deadpool. Some grenades and that thing is gone like nothing.
uchiha_itachi
02-19-2008, 11:10 AM
Deadpool seemed to destroy everything
uchiha_itachi
02-19-2008, 11:11 AM
Deadpool seemed to destroy everything
cerealkiller182
02-19-2008, 11:14 AM
I find the DP blade tornado move very effective on the restraints. :up:
.Rorschach.
02-19-2008, 11:21 AM
The gunshot move he has to is great too
uchiha_itachi
02-19-2008, 11:39 AM
He was just awesome all around.
Spider-Vader
02-19-2008, 08:57 PM
I beat Loki, Mesphisto & Blackheart or whatever with him mostly.
Nathan
02-24-2008, 04:01 AM
After a time that guy is just virtually indestructible. He heals like crazy. Of course if you don't pay attention and het pummeled left & right, he too can die. But if you watch out, you can keep on going, and going, and going with him.
I hope he'll stay in MUA2. They can get rid off characters like Elektra, Blade or Nick Fury. But they better not touch Deadpool, or there'll be hell to pay.
Nightwing.
02-24-2008, 06:26 AM
Yeah Deadpool always features in my teams. His moves are great. I like equipping poison touch to his melle attacks so when ever he shoots anyone they lose health even if they try to run away....and his humour is spot on
'Now im better at whatever Wolverine does'
and that little chat he has with Weasle about the crisps.
'Weasles buddy where've ya bin?'
'Hospital, you put me there when you stabbed me in the leg'
'You shouldnt have taken the last cheesy puff'
'They were mine'
'thats not the way i saw it'
ha brilliant
Nathan
02-24-2008, 06:31 AM
Yeah, I love his dialogues. Especially the ones he has with Black Widow. :D
I think one conversation went like this.
Deadpool: "Black Widow, I've got to ask. Are those real?"
Black Widow: *gasp* "Pardon me?"
Deadpool: "I... mean your teeth. Are they real? They are so shiney."
Mario_Galaxy
02-24-2008, 09:26 AM
I thought it was kinda dumb how you never got to save them both. I figured you'd save one again in a later mission or something.
I never got the expansion, though...how did they handle that storyline while maintaining Nightcrawler as a playable character?
The only thing is if Nightcrawler is in your team when you go to the circus level and meet Jean. SHe'll say they got Kurt and he'll tell her he's right there and that she's crazy.
Ryuuie
02-24-2008, 10:41 AM
cos i have no connections lol and i dont really wanna be a writer.
You can always e-mail Activision.
Plus, this is why it's a good idea to go and sign up for the VIP sites. They always give you chances to talk to developers on the forums.
DoomRulz
02-24-2008, 12:04 PM
After a time that guy is just virtually indestructible.
It seems like most characters were like that once they leveled up a lot. Wolverine and DP are obvious examples, with other characters like Ghost Rider and Captain America I'd argue being like that as well.
Balthus Dire
02-24-2008, 09:51 PM
You can always e-mail Activision.
Plus, this is why it's a good idea to go and sign up for the VIP sites. They always give you chances to talk to developers on the forums.
You usually need 1-2 previously published works before you can go for such a job; like a book or film or TV script or whatever.
Though I guess that's not actually set in stone if you know someone or get to know someone.
Ryuuie
02-24-2008, 10:29 PM
You can just e-mail them your idea, they'll still take them. Nintendo does at least.
Also, if you joined the VIP for M:UA or Spidey 3, you were given the chance to talk to devs live in a Java-based chat, on the forums, and the moderators had connections to Activision who could also relay your ideas to the devs.
Docker2.0
04-23-2008, 08:43 PM
Hey I'm stuck in Asgard and trying to free Tyr but I don't know how to line up the two statues. How are they suppose to be lined up/rotated? someone help me out. :(
Colossal Spoons
04-23-2008, 08:53 PM
There's an arrow somewhere in the room that shows you direction to point the statue :up:
Docker2.0
04-23-2008, 09:04 PM
Thanks bro! I've beat this game numerous time but I got a brain freeze for some reason. Can't wait til part 2 comes out.
DoomRulz
04-24-2008, 05:06 PM
That makes two of us. Is there any news on Part 2 anyway? Last I heard it's being shuffled around or something.
Docker2.0
04-24-2008, 05:10 PM
Only that it will be out this year and its rumored to have some elements of Civil War to it, which I hate! I thought the threat would be Galactus. And if he is the threat, it wouldn't make a lot of sense to have a civil war going on and the planets about to be destroyed.
Sparta*
04-24-2008, 05:11 PM
I thought MUA2 wasn't coming out this year anymore?
Docker2.0
04-24-2008, 05:22 PM
What?! When did they announce that?! I thought I saw on G4 a month ago that it was. Well actually its in Game informer of this month. But still............when was it announced?!
Havok83
04-24-2008, 05:30 PM
MUA 2 is scheduled to drop later this year, of course assuming there are no delays. It better be damn good since its been 2 years since the last one. I wonder when they started developing this one
Docker2.0
04-24-2008, 05:35 PM
I wondered the same thing but G4 states that Activision is positive it will be out around the latter of fall. So there you go. I just hope Moon Knight and Nova is a playable character.
I'm also hoping for an Annihilation and XM3 game. Cmon Marvel!
Havok83
04-24-2008, 05:40 PM
XML3 should have dropped by now. I hate that they left that series in the dust. I hope they go back to it after MUA2
shadowdog
04-24-2008, 09:18 PM
There was a miscommunicated bit of info last week, where an article was released on the net that said MUA 2 was going to be pushed back until next year so that AVtivision could focus on Spiderman:Web of Shadows, but he corrected the claim later that same day, saying that it was a mistakem and that MUA 2 is still slated to drop this year.
Docker2.0
04-24-2008, 09:28 PM
Yeah I thought so. Like I said Game Informer states they are confident it will be released this year and loosely related to Civil War.
Sundancer
04-24-2008, 09:49 PM
I I just hope Moon Knight and Nova is a playable character.
Playing as Moon Knight is one the main reasons I got this game. Now if they keep him and add Iron Fist.......
shadowdog
04-24-2008, 10:24 PM
I have my fingers crossed fro Havok and Polaris. THey are an awesome couple and would translate well to the MUA format.
Havok83
04-24-2008, 10:51 PM
I have my fingers crossed fro Havok and Polaris. THey are an awesome couple and would translate well to the MUA format.
I dont think they will ever be playable in MUA. XML is the best bet for those 2
spideyboy_1111
04-25-2008, 12:35 AM
Yeah I thought so. Like I said Game Informer states they are confident it will be released this year and loosely related to Civil War.
*prays for young avenger involvement*
shadowdog
04-25-2008, 11:58 AM
I dont think they will ever be playable in MUA. XML is the best bet for those 2
You're probably right, and unfortunately, X-Factor will probably get overlooked on both accounts. It's a shame really- they kick a lot of a$$!
Sparta*
04-25-2008, 01:38 PM
Oh sweet! Glad MUA 2 isn't being delayed afterall
DoomRulz
04-25-2008, 03:18 PM
Yeah I thought so. Like I said Game Informer states they are confident it will be released this year and loosely related to Civil War.
I'm not thrilled about that...I was kinda hoping for something Galactus-related.
Nathan
04-25-2008, 03:21 PM
And I for something Thanos related. Civil War.. meh. Hmm... if villains are playable too? I'm really hoping for some Thunderbolts involvement.
MaskedManJRK
04-25-2008, 03:30 PM
And I for something Thanos related. Civil War.. meh. Hmm... if villains are playable too? I'm really hoping for some Thunderbolts involvement.
That's what I'm hoping for--teams of heroes and villians forced to team up against a threat far bigger then them (like Galactus).
Docker2.0
04-25-2008, 03:31 PM
Didn't really say but you'd think with the way MUA ended with the threat Galactus levied down, it would pick up with that. I hated Civil War and the effects it has on the MU. I'm hoping it's VERY loosely related to this game.
Havok83
04-25-2008, 05:13 PM
And I for something Thanos related. Civil War.. meh. Hmm... if villains are playable too? I'm really hoping for some Thunderbolts involvement.
I sure hope not. I hate the idea of villians being playable. DLC maybe, but I dont want developers to spend their time putting villians on the roster in favor of heroes who get overlooked
SouLeSS
04-25-2008, 05:17 PM
I always thought a Civil War game could be pretty awesome. You could pick your main character out of 6 or so, 3 from each side, and you'd go around trying to recruit people to join your side, while the opposite side tries to get heroes on their side, both ones alligned with you, and one that have no affiliation. It could all end up with the end being some big huge brawl where it's just an all out slugfest between heroes and you're in the pilot seat with Iron Man, Captain America, Spiderman (would be cool to play where you switch sides halfway through), Reed Richards, or one of the other people who were huge players in the event.
Besides, there would be a ton of replayability with it. Say you start the game either picking Iron Man or Captian America, and once you beat it you unlock the ability to play the game through with Spider-Man being your main focus, so you go through his storyline of what happened + trying to get more.
I dunno, I'm rambling
Havok83
04-25-2008, 07:02 PM
I prefer original stories instead of rehashes from the comics. I wouldnt mind seeing comic missions incorporated as extras like they did with XML though.
venom892
04-25-2008, 08:32 PM
I want Iron Fist and Moon Knight in the game.I also want comic missions to return and was kinda disappointed with the individual missions in MUA.I hope it's not Civil war based.I prefer ether Thanos or the Red Skull as the main villain.
Ryuuie
04-25-2008, 09:17 PM
I hope M:UA 2 is a mix of the best of the best from all 3 games (XML, XML2, M:UA). I think that'd be a major fanservice and it'd be really cool to play. Of course, this probably won't happen due to the games being forced out in the same year.
I was really hoping for M:UA 2 NOT being released this year. Now both games are on a deadline; while it's possible one or both games may be delayed, Activision will still push for their mega Marvel year or whatever they're calling it. So, they'll push for the games to be released THIS year together. -_-
I think that, while the Spidey game won't be buggy, it'll be as bleh as SM3 while M:UA 2 will be buggy as hell and not as awesome as people expect/want it to be.
spideyboy_1111
04-25-2008, 10:26 PM
I hope M:UA 2 is a mix of the best of the best from all 3 games (XML, XML2, M:UA). I think that'd be a major fanservice and it'd be really cool to play. Of course, this probably won't happen due to the games being forced out in the same year.
I was really hoping for M:UA 2 NOT being released this year. Now both games are on a deadline; while it's possible one or both games may be delayed, Activision will still push for their mega Marvel year or whatever they're calling it. So, they'll push for the games to be released THIS year together. -_-
I think that, while the Spidey game won't be buggy, it'll be as bleh as SM3 while M:UA 2 will be buggy as hell and not as awesome as people expect/want it to be.
you do realize activision doesn't make those games right? they distribute them. 2 different video game houses are making those 2 games i believe. the MUA games are developed by raven
Ryuuie
04-25-2008, 11:05 PM
you do realize activision doesn't make those games right? they distribute them. 2 different video game houses are making those 2 games i believe. the MUA games are developed by raven
Yes, this is obvious. But still,they're the ones calling the shots this time since neither of these games are movie based.
spideyboy_1111
04-25-2008, 11:24 PM
Yes, this is obvious. But still,they're the ones calling the shots this time since neither of these games are movie based.
yes... but lagging and crap like that has nothing to do with it. they will concentrate on ALL games they produce.
Ryuuie
04-25-2008, 11:54 PM
yes... but lagging and crap like that has nothing to do with it. they will concentrate on ALL games they produce.
I mean taking time to actually playtest and not just get the game on shelves just to make sure they both come out in the same year. I'm not saying it WILL happen 100%, I'm saying it probably will.
M:UA had horrible bugs, almost es if the game was not tested enough. It seemed as if the devs needed more time on it. Despite it being a good game, it had glaring flaws.
Nathan
04-26-2008, 02:00 AM
Yeah, out of all 3 games Raven developed, MUA has the worst team AI. Characters rarely use their powers, often wouldn't walk or jump to their deaths. And for some reason the game would always reset your skill list. You had to re-select each move again that you wanted to have for battle.
shadowdog
04-26-2008, 12:50 PM
Yeah the AI needs a definite upgrade. Instead of just defensive, aggressive, follow or whatever the fourth option was, they should allow you to set characters as long distance or melee specific. There's really no reason for a character like Cyclops or Dr. Strange to run up and start punching and kicking instead of using their powers form a safe distance.
Storm22
04-26-2008, 12:55 PM
Sometimes for me, in 2 or 3 levels, one of my team woud actually just randomly stand there and not move! That's just unacceptable.
Havok83
04-26-2008, 01:20 PM
I think that, while the Spidey game won't be buggy, it'll be as bleh as SM3 while M:UA 2 will be buggy as hell and not as awesome as people expect/want it to be.
I dont think its fair to say that MUA2 will be buggy. We dont even know how long its been in development. They've had at least 2 years. For all we know, they started some time last year. Plus they have experienced with the current gen of consoles so I think the PS3 and 360 will have their techincal issues ironed out
DoomRulz
04-26-2008, 02:16 PM
I sincerely hope Activision doesn't act all gay and only release console-exclusive characters again (360, I'm looking at you...)
Ryuuie
04-26-2008, 04:52 PM
I dont think its fair to say that MUA2 will be buggy. We dont even know how long its been in development. They've had at least 2 years. For all we know, they started some time last year. Plus they have experienced with the current gen of consoles so I think the PS3 and 360 will have their techincal issues ironed out
Ok, I'll admit that it's not fair to say it's SUPER buggy but I think it'll have some bugs at least. If the game were to be released say...next spring, it'd be possibly less buggy than it would be.
There were only a few cases of bugs that were console-specific, most were spread throughout PS2, Xbox, 360, PS3, and Wii. Out of the console specifics, 360 had the most while Wii had 1 and PS3 had 0 (to my recollection, I didn't categorize any for PS3). Framerate problems were one of the problems for 360 and PS3, Wii had none.
But 2 years may give us some time but I don't know...I personally doubt it, honestly. =/
DoomRulz
04-26-2008, 06:43 PM
Framerate problems seem to plague most console games IMO. I'm more concerned with AI than anything else.
Spider-Vader
04-26-2008, 08:54 PM
Yeah I thought so. Like I said Game Informer states they are confident it will be released this year and loosely related to Civil War.
Which one? The GOW2 one?
I hope they have a different main group this time. (Maybe keeping Wolvie & Spidey)
Docker2.0
04-26-2008, 09:38 PM
Game Informer? I get it monthly for shopping at GameStop for video games. It is just a monthly magazine. The article wasn't that long. Only like a small paragraph.
shadowdog
04-26-2008, 11:59 PM
I sincerely hope Activision doesn't act all gay and only release console-exclusive characters again (360, I'm looking at you...)
So, um, just a sidenote- would you mind terribly not using the word gay as a way of saying stupid? Im gay, and it's pretty offensive.
I doubt you would ever drop the n-bomb or call a woman a c*nt on these boards, and it's just as bad.
I'm not trying to be preachy, but it's something I have to deal with every day on boards like these and it needs to stop.
I'll get down off of my soapbox now :cwink:
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 12:02 AM
second
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 12:04 AM
so, back on topic, I hope that if MUA2 is based around Civil War at all that they won't stick to the teams and characters they used in the comicbooks. If it is going to be a hero vs hero type of game, I hope we get to choose who fights along side of who.
It would be cool if you had to pick a team and fight the heroes you didn't pick, convincing them to join your side after beating them and ending up with every hero available to you by the end of the game.
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 12:06 AM
second
thanks!
I was assuming I would just get called a f*g and that would be the end of it!
I've been trying to speak up here and on youtube and other boards I post at (SHH is pretty great and there aren't nearly as many comments like these here as compared to other sites), but it seems like a losing battle sometimes.
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 12:09 AM
i dont care for it... but it's a very early 2000's thing to say, and it's played out.. and now the people saying it just sound stupid. I'm gay myself, i don't really enjoy hearing it.. but its not nearly as bad as f*g
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 12:18 AM
that's for sure!
Youtube users are just awful with their use of that particular F-word- it's gotten so ridiculous that it makes it hard to enjoy the illeagally uploaded episodes of all my favorite shows!
ProjectPat2280
04-27-2008, 12:19 AM
So, um, just a sidenote- would you mind terribly not using the word gay as a way of saying stupid? Im gay, and it's pretty offensive.
Dude, get over it. You should know by now that youre gonna hear that. So just try and suck it up, nothing was meant by it. There is enough Political Correctness in the world as it is.
As for this game, i want ONE thing, thats a true next gen game. I dont want another PS2 port with slightly sharper visuals. I loved all the characters in the orig so if they were to have the exact same roster, id be happy as long as they gave me a true next gen game.
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 12:50 AM
Dude, get over it. You should know by now that youre gonna hear that. So just try and suck it up, nothing was meant by it. There is enough Political Correctness in the world as it is.
Yeah, I could care less about PC-ness, it's about using slurs in everyday speech, if every offended black person just sucked it up, you would still be calling people spooks, spades and everything else.
I won't suck it up. I have been beaten nearly to death, spit on, kicked in the face, had my brothers beaten up, had my car keyed and my house (when I was still at home with my parents) spray painted with swachticas and I have always just sucked it up- those days are over.
I don't have to accept the fact that I'm just 'going to hear that,' becuase I shoudn't just have to hear it. I hear it all the time, and since no one says anything, everyone thinks it's just okay, and it isn't. If you are white and straight then you proabbly don't and won't ever understand, if you are in some part of a minority group, then you should understand.
I'm not trying to be a windbag, but it needs to stop, and I'd preffer it if it was in my lifetime.
but I agree with you on the nextgen issue, all though I feel the need for new characters, Havok most of all!
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 12:55 AM
I'm really not trying to kill this thread- I swear I'm not!
I am actually way more interested in talking about MUA2 then I am in continuing my stupid crusade to chastize insensetive people.
ProjectPat2280
04-27-2008, 12:59 AM
Yeah, I could care less about PC-ness, it's about using slurs in everyday speech, if every offended black person just sucked it up, you would still be calling people spooks, spades and everything else.
I won't suck it up. I have been beaten nearly to death, spit on, kicked in the face, had my brothers beaten up, had my car keyed and my house (when I was still at home with my parents) spray painted with swachticas and I have always just sucked it up- those days are over.
I don't have to except the fact that I'm just 'going to hear that,' becuase I shoudn't just have to hear it. I hear it all the time, and since no one says anything, everyone thinks it's just okay, and it isn't. If you are white and straight then you proabbly don't and won't ever understand, if you in some part of a minority group, then you should understand.
I'm not trying to be a windbag, but it needs to stop, and I'd preffer it if it was in my lifetime.
but I agree with you on the nextgen issue, all though I feel the need for new characters, Havok most of all!
I just think you need to keep that to yourself. You cant get offended everytime you hear that word. If i said something everytime i read or heard something that was offensive to me, id be out of breath all the time. Itll never stop, if its not that word itll be something else. Youll drive yourself crazy worrying about it, youre better of just shrugging it off. Thats all im gonna say on this tho, this isnt the place for it.
Havok, yea, deff hes gotta be in there. Id also like to see the Punisher show up, but like i said, i loved the cast from the first game so if all they give me are next gen visuals, ill be happy.
Ryuuie
04-27-2008, 07:36 AM
And if we all ignored something when it offended and REALLY bothered us, we'd still have slavery, women would still not be able to vote, the United States (and possibly other countries) wouldn't exist, and many other things would never have come to pass. Keeping quiet about what you think is wrong will get you absolutely NO WHERE in life (as long as you're not hurting/killing people to get your point across, then fine). I applaud you, shadowdog, for standing up for what you think is the wrong thing to say (and it is). But anyway, enough said about that.
People seem to be forgetting about the licensing that Marvel still seems to have out with the other game publishers. Iron Man is still with Sega, THQ has Capt. America and Thor, I believe, Take-Two has Fantastic Four. I don't know if these expired or what, but I do know Activision still has the license for Spidey and X-Men until 2010.
Savage
04-27-2008, 07:56 AM
If there's anything the last M:UA taught us it's that those don't really matter. Those licenses were around before that game I believe.
Storm22
04-27-2008, 09:26 AM
I'm eager to see some screenshots of this game and see how it's looking.
Havok83
04-27-2008, 09:32 AM
If there's anything the last M:UA taught us it's that those don't really matter. Those licenses were around before that game I believe.
Actually it does matter. Activision could not legally put the Hulk in MUA at the time of release bc they did not have the liscense to the character. Universal did and they had to wait till that expired until they were able to include him months later in the form of DLC.
Charlie No-One
04-27-2008, 10:01 AM
I just think you need to keep that to yourself. You cant get offended everytime you hear that word. If i said something everytime i read or heard something that was offensive to me, id be out of breath all the time. Itll never stop, if its not that word itll be something else. Youll drive yourself crazy worrying about it, youre better of just shrugging it off. Thats all im gonna say on this tho, this isnt the place for it.
Havok, yea, deff hes gotta be in there. Id also like to see the Punisher show up, but like i said, i loved the cast from the first game so if all they give me are next gen visuals, ill be happy.
I hope your joking. You wouldn't tell a black person to suck it up if they were called the "n-word" so don't tell gay people to suck it up when the same thing is happening to them.
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 10:17 AM
Actually it does matter. Activision could not legally put the Hulk in MUA at the time of release bc they did not have the liscense to the character. Universal did and they had to wait till that expired until they were able to include him months later in the form of DLC.
that's why I was wondering about Ironman. I hope he's not contractually obligated to another company. He's pretty essential in a game about Marvel heroes IMO, especially this one.
Although, he needs a different moveset next time, some of his attacks seemed sort of unnecessary- and why no big uni-beam attack? It's like his signature move!
Docker2.0
04-27-2008, 10:26 AM
Yeah but the term gay isn't just about being homo. It also means happy or bad. I understand what you are saying SD but at the same time, some people just get use to saying certain terms off the top of their head. I'm black and when I hear a white person saying terms like "that's so ghetto" I feel funny to but it's their right. Not knocking you but political correctness is seriously bringing this country down becuase every1 seems to be offended by everything.
I love the cinematics of the original game. I was seriously hoping that Marvel will do a dtv movie with the graphics of this game.
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 10:43 AM
Yeah but the term gay isn't just about being homo. It also means happy or bad. I understand what you are saying SD but at the same time, some people just get use to saying certain terms off the top of their head. I'm black and when I hear a white person saying terms like "that's so ghetto" I feel funny to but it's their right. Not knocking you but political correctness is seriously bringing this country down becuase every1 seems to be offended by everything.
I love the cinematics of the original game. I was seriously hoping that Marvel will do a dtv movie with the graphics of this game.
yeah, except people aren't born ghetto. If some white guys said 'oh that's so black' and meant 'oh that's so stupid or lame' I doubt you would like it very much.
I hate political correctness as a whole and I love freedom of speech (i'm a writer for god's sakes), but gay doesn't mean bad, that's just one of the ways it's commonly used these days, and I hope that if people know that it offends people, they might just say lame or stupid if that's really what they mean, unless they are trying to offend people, in which case they are probably pretty lame themselves.
meanwhile, back at the hype....
I would love to see a full-length cgi movie with the graphics from the in game cutscenes!
They were really top-notch. The scene infront of Asgard (with Loki) and the one with Doom and the X-Men were particularly amazing!
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 10:43 AM
I'd love to ask a mod if I could change my name to Preachy McPreach-a-lot!
Savage
04-27-2008, 10:45 AM
Actually it does matter. Activision could not legally put the Hulk in MUA at the time of release bc they did not have the liscense to the character. Universal did and they had to wait till that expired until they were able to include him months later in the form of DLC.
Wasn't this a concern we had for the previous Marvel as well? I mean while we were speculating who would be in the game there was a lot of worries that some people might not make it because they're licensed under different developers. I don't know why the Hulk was so special but I thought these characters were at different companies.
Havok83
04-27-2008, 10:50 AM
Wasn't this a concern we had for the previous Marvel as well? I mean while we were speculating who would be in the game there was a lot of worries that some people might not make it because they're licensed under different developers. I don't know why the Hulk was so special but I thought these characters were at different companies.
Well different companies have different liscenses and we dont know the details of all those liscenses. Some might have the rights to the movie characters, in which case that publisher can only make games based on the movies and another can use them for other purposes. I think this might be the case with Sega and Iron Man. Other developers might have the rights to use the characters in certain genres, like Capcom had with Spider-man in its Marvel fighting games, yet he was free to be used in action games by Activision. And some characters have exclusive rights to all aspects of a character in which case they are the only ones who can do anything with them, and thats what Universal had with the Hulk
Storm22
04-27-2008, 10:55 AM
I'm really hoping the X-Men (including Magneto and Sabretooth), FF, Daredevil, Deadpool, Thor, Spiderman, Ms. Marvel, Captain America, Iron Man, Dr. Strange and Dr. Doom ALL make the cut again for MUA:2.
The rest of the MUA roster are disposable imo.
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 10:59 AM
I think they could keep almost eveyone from the first game, but I think they have to add new characters. There are just so many great marvel heroes that deserve a place on the roster.
I hope we get to play as Havok, Polaris, Namor, Blackbolt, Crystal, and Vision- all great heroes who would be awesome to play as in this type of game!
Savage
04-27-2008, 11:00 AM
Hey now, Luke Cage, Black Panther, and Nick Fury are never disposable. :o
We need some Namor, Iron Fist, and Nova action.
Havok83
04-27-2008, 11:01 AM
I hope they include a Create-a-Hero mode. Thats something Ive wanted since XML. It most likely wont happen but it would be cool and the best alternative to people missing out on characters not being included
Savage
04-27-2008, 11:02 AM
Bring back the danger room/versus and I'm a happy camper.
Docker2.0
04-27-2008, 11:13 AM
I hope Nova will be in this game if they keep it under the Galactus arc. Well he should be anyway. Wouldn't it be great if they have a Sakaar stage where you had to battle the Red King, or even the Hulk, kind of a mini WWH and then be able to play as the Hulk? I'm sure if the Hulk was on part 1, then him vs. Wolvie would have been their mini mission. I don't understand why Universal was so bad about Marvel using the Hulk when they were allowed to use Bruce Banner. But I guess it is their choice.
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 11:15 AM
I hope they include a Create-a-Hero mode. Thats something Ive wanted since XML. It most likely wont happen but it would be cool and the best alternative to people missing out on characters not being included
I agree that that would be awesome, and it would be a gerat way to have a single character to play through the story mode in between missions, like Magma did in XML1, which I thought was the best combination of action and rpg of all three of the Marvel action rpgs.
Bring back the danger room/versus and I'm a happy camper.
Agreed 100%!
I missed not being able to go hero to hero with friends like you could in the XML games, which I thought was one of the most fun parts, even though the way the Danger Room matches were set up was a little weird with the limited movesets and level one abilities.
MUA versus would make me such a happy camper that I might just pitch a tent!
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 11:27 AM
And I really miss the flashback missions from XML as well. The battle against Juggernaut in the X-Manision was one of the best parts of the game, IMO. Blasting through walls as Cyke and using furniture as projectiles as Jean just felt like a real X-Men battle to me.
I'd love to see a Heros vs Hulk flashback, FF vs Annihilus, Avengers vs Living Laser and Klaw, and some one on one missions like, DD vs Kingpin, Spiderman vs Green Goblin and Captain America vs Red Skull
Havok83
04-27-2008, 11:30 AM
Bring back the danger room/versus and I'm a happy camper.
I dont get why they got rid of this. I thought the Shield simulater discs were going to be MUA's equivalent to it but what a big disappointment that was. The multiplayer aspect of MUA sucked in comparison to XML2. XML2 had a good idea but it needed to be fleshed out, not taken away. I liked that you could fight as everyone in the game in deathmatches. They really should bring this back and focus on improving it
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 11:35 AM
^^^from your lips to the game god's ears...hopefully!^^^
Docker2.0
04-27-2008, 11:52 AM
I dont get why they got rid of this. I thought the Shield simulater discs were going to be MUA's equivalent to it but what a big disappointment that was. The multiplayer aspect of MUA sucked in comparison to XML2. XML2 had a good idea but it needed to be fleshed out, not taken away. I liked that you could fight as everyone in the game in deathmatches. They really should bring this back and focus on improving it
Honestly? what's the difference? I thought the SD was the same as the Danger room. There wasn't that big of a difference. :huh:
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 12:10 PM
I think the biggest difference was the lack of a player vs player mode.
Docker2.0
04-27-2008, 12:18 PM
Ah ok. I agree with that...........................but I didn't thnk you can do player vs. Player on XML. :huh:
Nathan
04-27-2008, 12:21 PM
I don't remember the game too well, but I'm sure XML's Danger Room allowed for 4 player Vs.
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 12:23 PM
Yeah but the term gay isn't just about being homo. It also means happy or bad. I understand what you are saying SD but at the same time, some people just get use to saying certain terms off the top of their head. I'm black and when I hear a white person saying terms like "that's so ghetto" I feel funny to but it's their right. Not knocking you but political correctness is seriously bringing this country down becuase every1 seems to be offended by everything.
I love the cinematics of the original game. I was seriously hoping that Marvel will do a dtv movie with the graphics of this game.
gay means happy... lol it doesn't mean bad.
having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music.
2. bright or showy: gay colors; gay ornaments.
3. given to or abounding in social or other pleasures: a gay social season.
4. licentious; dissipated; wanton: The baron is a gay old rogue with an eye for the ladies.
5. homosexual.
6. of, indicating, or supporting homosexual interests or issues: a gay organization.
–noun
7. a homosexual person, esp. a male.
you officially win the dumb award for the day and ghetto is not A) an exclusive black term, ever here of the Warsaw ghetto? theres been ghetto's everywhere for every race. and B) Ghetto is not a derogatory word. how would you like if people went around saying "thats so black" like.. o dude, i cant believe what a "black" move (meaning dumb or retarded, which is how the "thats so gay" term is used) activision made.
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 12:26 PM
Ah ok. I agree with that...........................but I didn't thnk you can do player vs. Player on XML. :huh:
you could. There was a type of Dangeroom mode that was one on one. It was a lot of fun, especially in the X-Mansion stage (where you could run around and hide in the rooms until someone blows the wall down!) and the Nuclear Sub stage (where there were some fun exploding goodies to play with)
Docker2.0
04-27-2008, 12:30 PM
gay means happy... lol it doesn't mean bad.
you officially win the dumb award for the day and ghetto is not A) an exclusive black term, ever here of the Warsaw ghetto? theres been ghetto's everywhere for every race. and B) Ghetto is not a derogatory word. how would you like if people went around saying "thats so black" like.. o dude, i cant believe what a "black" move (meaning dumb or retarded, which is how the "thats so gay" term is used) activision made.
I can say that about the term gay also. Gay isn't just a word for homos. And why do you have to resort to name calling? :whatever: I haven't called anyone any names. Even though I didn't agree with SB, there was no name calling nor hard feelings. The subject was even dropped but you bring it up.
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 12:33 PM
Can't we all just get along....no? Yeah, I didn't think so.
Havok83
04-27-2008, 12:36 PM
Can we just move on from this talk about the word gay and focus on MUA?
Docker2.0
04-27-2008, 12:36 PM
Can't we all just get along....no? Yeah, I didn't think so.
Yeah we can. But to call me a name cuase we dont agree on something is really ga..............gamma powered dumb. LOL! Joke dude! :woot:
Docker2.0
04-27-2008, 12:38 PM
Can we just move on from this talk about the word gay and focus on MUA?
I did. :huh: I even changed the subject but dude attacked me a hour after the subject was changed. I apologize peeps for this bad play. :o
XML 3 should be released next year. I'm kind of looking forward to see what Mr. Sinister has to offer as a final boss of a game.
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 12:38 PM
My list of characters that need to be in the game... if not playable, then must have cameos, villain or be a skin.
Heroes:
-Ironman
-Warmachine
-Hulk
-She-Hulk
-Wonder Man
-Hawkeye (clint barton)
-Ronin
-Spider-woman (all)
-Moon Knight
-Giantman and Wasp (wasp would probably be a move though using her blasts, because i dont see a point of controlling a tiny character)
-quicksilver
-scarlet witch
-thor
-ms marvel
-captain america
-vision
-Hulkling
-Wiccan
-Patriot
-Hawkeye (kate bishop)
-Stature
-Speed
-Winter Soldier
-Black Widow
-Falcon
-Nick Fury (though i thought he was a really lame playable, either changes his moves or just make him once again the leader)
-Mr. Fantastic
-Thing
-Human Torch
-Invisible Woman
-Ghostrider (with bike)
-Blade (with some vampire killing moves)
-Deathlock
-Sentry
-Spider-man
-Elektra
-Punisher
-Daredevil
-Black Cat
-Luke Cage
-Iron Fist
-Jewel
-Namor
-Blackbolt
-Beast
-Wolverine
-Cyclops
-Nightcrawler
-Phoenix
-Havok
-Polaris
-Rogue
-Prof X
-Gambit
-Deadpool
-Psylocke
-Archangel
-Emma Frost
-Storm
-Black Panther
-Nova
-Silver surfer
-Captain Marvel
-Beta Ray bill
-Doctor Strange
-Cloak
-Dagger
Villains:
-Dormamu
-Galactus
-Sinister
-Dracula
-Vengance
-Blackheart
-Mephisto
-Hydra
-Viper
-Red Skull
-Leader
-Abomination
-Baron Von Zemo
-Ultron
-Kang
-Kingpin
-Green Goblin
-Purple Man
-Claw
-Thanos
-Moleman
-Psycho man
-Tiger Shark
-Ahnihilus
-Jigsaw
-Magneto
-Doctor Doom
Havok83
04-27-2008, 12:39 PM
Honestly? what's the difference? I thought the SD was the same as the Danger room. There wasn't that big of a difference. :huh:
In Danger Room mode, you can just from a variety of maps and play deathmatch style fights using pretty much anyone that was in the game. That meant heroes, villians and allies that fought alongside you. If they had a moveset, they were playable. You couldnt do any of that in MUA. Even the single player part of the DR was better than the Shield simulator stuff
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 12:40 PM
I can say that about the term gay also. Gay isn't just a word for homos. And why do you have to resort to name calling? :whatever: I haven't called anyone any names. Even though I didn't agree with SB, there was no name calling nor hard feelings. The subject was even dropped but you bring it up. Way to win Ass of the year award.............no gay pun intended.
i said you won the dumb award ;) never name called.
you really can't tell the difference between gay being a offensive word because your associating being gay with being stupid? Yet think its the same as the word ghetto?
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 12:45 PM
I hoipe MUA2 has more characters tha have unique movesets like Wolverine did in the first with his rage meter.
I think Cloak and Dagger would be awesome if you controlled both as one character, Dagger for the melee and projectiles, and then switching to Cloak (sort of like a boost) or 'summoning' him for particuilar moves.
I think Havok would be a cool character to use, because he could have an increasing amount of stored plasma that would make waiting in between uses of his powers more of an advantage
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 12:46 PM
id love havok to finally be playable... after all in XML2 he was on "suspension" hopefully his time out is over now :)
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 12:48 PM
In Danger Room mode, you can just from a variety of maps and play deathmatch style fights using pretty much anyone that was in the game. That meant heroes, villians and allies that fought alongside you. If they had a moveset, they were playable. You couldnt do any of that in MUA. Even the single player part of the DR was better than the Shield simulator stuff
yeah, the DR was much better than the sim disc missions, esp. becasue they all took place on one of only 4 or 5 stages and involved tasks like destroying consloes and crap like that.
I miss the one on one, hero ve hero, only your surroundings adn your wits to survive..oh yeah, and your powers, let's not forget about them!
Docker2.0
04-27-2008, 01:30 PM
i said you won the dumb award ;) never name called.
you really can't tell the difference between gay being a offensive word because your associating being gay with being stupid? Yet think its the same as the word ghetto? The subject was dropped when you starting acting childish. Move on please. :o
In Danger Room mode, you can just from a variety of maps and play deathmatch style fights using pretty much anyone that was in the game. That meant heroes, villians and allies that fought alongside you. If they had a moveset, they were playable. You couldnt do any of that in MUA. Even the single player part of the DR was better than the Shield simulator stuff
I have the game but haven't played it in awhile. I may have to open it back up.
Havok83
04-27-2008, 02:35 PM
id love havok to finally be playable... after all in XML2 he was on "suspension" hopefully his time out is over now :)
It was BS that Havok wasnt playable in XML2. The concept of the game was about the X-men teaming up with the Brotherhood, which Havok was apart of in XML1. With Lorna being captured, that would have been a perfect oppurtunity for him to join up with the team to save her
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 02:55 PM
It was BS that Havok wasnt playable in XML2. The concept of the game was about the X-men teaming up with the Brotherhood, which Havok was apart of in XML1. With Lorna being captured, that would have been a perfect oppurtunity for him to join up with the team to save her
ya but this is also the video game established universe, havok mentioned nothing about lorna... so who knows if there together in it?
Ryuuie
04-27-2008, 02:59 PM
I wonder if they'll FINALLY give us Shadowcat. Now, back in M:UA's VIP thread, I DO remember a developer stating that Shadowcat was not possible on Wii, PS2, Xbox, PSP, and GBA because of her powers. She could "break the game" by phasing through an event trigger that must be activated to go on into the story thus making you stuck for good.
Then, in an article, they stated that 360 and PS3 (and obviously PC) can actually handle Shadowcat's powers and would have no problems like "breaking the game". Because of this, they should make her a 360, PS3, and PC exclusive. I'm all against exclusives that are per console, but damnit if it's possible, then do it so people won't complain.
Another thing, WE. NEED. MORE. FEMALE. CHARACTERS. Back in M:UA's VIP, the developer who was around answering our questions (you may remember a dev doing that in Spidey's Web) stated that the reason why M:UA has so many male characters is because of the public. They did a survey (offline) to ask people who would they want in a Marvel game and the answer was mostly male characters.
I believe Ravensoft even told her (the dev) that they thought that the male Marvel characters were much stronger than the female ones (uh..what? Jean Grey? She-Hulk? Rogue?) and there was obviously a huge uproar over this.
SO, at the end of the VIP site, we were all (the users) given an exclusive survey to fill out asking us what we would want in the next game. So, I'm sure we'll see the results of said survey in M:UA 2 (I told them I wanted Cable, Shadowcat, Black Cat, Rachel Summers to name a few).
I think the site's still up and I can pull up a few quotes.
WorthyStevens
04-27-2008, 03:05 PM
I wonder if they'll FINALLY give us Shadowcat. Now, back in M:UA's VIP thread, I DO remember a developer stating that Shadowcat was not possible on Wii, PS2, Xbox, PSP, and GBA because of her powers. She could "break the game" by phasing through an event trigger that must be activated to go on into the story thus making you stuck for good.
Then, in an article, they stated that 360 and PS3 (and obviously PC) can actually handle Shadowcat's powers and would have no problems like "breaking the game". Because of this, they should make her a 360, PS3, and PC exclusive. I'm all against exclusives that are per console, but damnit if it's possible, then do it so people won't complain.
Another thing, WE. NEED. MORE. FEMALE. CHARACTERS. Back in M:UA's VIP, the developer who was around answering our questions (you may remember a dev doing that in Spidey's Web) stated that the reason why M:UA has so many male characters is because of the public. They did a survey (offline) to ask people who would they want in a Marvel game and the answer was mostly male characters.
I believe Ravensoft even told her (the dev) that they thought that the male Marvel characters were much stronger than the female ones (uh..what? Jean Grey? She-Hulk? Rogue?) and there was obviously a huge uproar over this.
SO, at the end of the VIP site, we were all (the users) given an exclusive survey to fill out asking us what we would want in the next game. So, I'm sure we'll see the results of said survey in M:UA 2 (I told them I wanted Cable, Shadowcat, Black Cat, Rachel Summers to name a few).
I think the site's still up and I can pull up a few quotes.
Yep. They did say that Shadowcat, and Angel, could be made playable on next gen. systems.
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 03:07 PM
shadow cat i'd rather save for an Xmen game... not MUA.. why? well one i dont really see her teaming at all up with the rest of the MU... and 2... i dont really see her at all that useful compared to anyone else.. she's not a great hand to hand fighter, and all u'd be able to do is phase through machines and then maybe have lockheed do most of the fighting *yawn
Nathan
04-27-2008, 03:08 PM
I hope Psylocke will return. She was another much requested character on the VIP board.
Exploding Boy
04-27-2008, 03:16 PM
shadow cat i'd rather save for an Xmen game... not MUA.. why? well one i dont really see her teaming at all up with the rest of the MU... and 2... i dont really see her at all that useful compared to anyone else.. she's not a great hand to hand fighter, and all u'd be able to do is phase through machines and then maybe have lockheed do most of the fighting *yawn :huh:
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 03:20 PM
:huh:
what? shes not the best fighter, her power is phasing.. so really...all u can do is destroy machines and walk through walls (probably only the ones you can teleport with nightcrawler through anyway) and lockheed would probably do most of her fighting. just save her for an X-men only game
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 03:20 PM
about Shadowcat
I don't see why they don't use the 'team seperated' mode like in XML1, where if Shadowcat were to Phase into an area that would trigger an event, the event wouldn't be possible because the entire team wasn't with her, and then once she had returned to the previous area, the team could re-group and be able to move on as a whole.
Also, I don't think anyone would want to run Kitty into an area by herself, for fear that she would be killed once her phase wore off.
Third, if someone wanted to run through the level without killing any enemies or collecting any items, it would seriuosly hurt them becuase they wouldn't be leveling up any of their characters, so again, I don't think anyone would want to do that.
If running into the next area is the problem, then Nightcrawler, Dr. Strange and Deadpool shouldn't work either beacuse they could technically do the same thing.
With this type of game, where the heroes powers are limited to the amount of energy they have, it's not like she could run around intangible indefinitely, she would run out of energy and be stuck away from her teammates with only her melee attacks to protect her, and that probably wouldn't get her too far against a slew of enemies.
I never understood the gamemakers argument about their innability to include a character who can phase, I dont know why they couldn't just not allow her to phase past certain points or not allow single character to complete areas of the levels.
I would love to see Kitty in MUA, especially after her recent 'connections' with Spiderman, they made a good team.
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 03:22 PM
what? shes not the best fighter, her power is phasing.. so really...all u can do is destroy machines and walk through walls (probably only the ones you can teleport with nightcrawler through anyway) and lockheed would probably do most of her fighting. just save her for an X-men only game
but I agree that she would be much better in XML3, but I digress, anyhting to play as one of my all time favorite heroes...I'm not called Shadowdog for nuthin'!
Ryuuie
04-27-2008, 03:29 PM
I hope Psylocke will return. She was another much requested character on the VIP board.
Psylocke ALMOST made it in M:UA, Katlina (think that was the dev's name) asked for her in and got her wish until Ravensoft was all "Nah" and took her out at the very last minute. :( That would've been awesome to have her. I too hope she's in M:UA 2.
Havok83
04-27-2008, 03:37 PM
shadow cat i'd rather save for an Xmen game... not MUA.. why? well one i dont really see her teaming at all up with the rest of the MU... and 2... i dont really see her at all that useful compared to anyone else.. she's not a great hand to hand fighter, and all u'd be able to do is phase through machines and then maybe have lockheed do most of the fighting *yawn
Shadowcat not a great hand to hand fighter? She was trained by Wolverine and following her possession by Ogun, she's been skilled in aikido, ninjutsu and karate. But I'll agree that MUA is not the place for her. She needs to be in an X-man game
Yep. They did say that Shadowcat, and Angel, could be made playable on next gen. systems.I dont see why Warren wasnt possible to be played on the last gen consoles
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 03:38 PM
I would love Psylocke too! But she needs to be miles ahead of her XML incarnation- she was pretty lame, IMO.
She's got such diverse powers and fighting skills that she should be one of the best if they make her how she should be.
Exploding Boy
04-27-2008, 03:39 PM
what? shes not the best fighter, her power is phasing.. so really...all u can do is destroy machines and walk through walls (probably only the ones you can teleport with nightcrawler through anyway) and lockheed would probably do most of her fighting. just save her for an X-men only game
How is she not that great of a fighter? Read her mini-series. She didint have her powers the entire time and used only her martial arts. And her powers could be used to hurt people, not just phase through objects.
Havok83
04-27-2008, 03:39 PM
Psylocke ALMOST made it in M:UA, Katlina (think that was the dev's name) asked for her in and got her wish until Ravensoft was all "Nah" and took her out at the very last minute. :( That would've been awesome to have her. I too hope she's in M:UA 2.
Psylocke should have been in instead of Elektra. Elektra was the most boring character in the game. If they needed a female ninja, Psylocke would have been the way to go as she is alot more versatile and would ahve been more unique instead of generic like Elektra was
Ryuuie
04-27-2008, 03:41 PM
The reason why Angel isn't possible on last-gen consoles is because of his wing animations, I believe. I don't remember EXACTLY why his wings would be a problem, but that's what we were told.
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 03:44 PM
Shadowcat not a great hand to hand fighter? She was trained by Wolverine and following her possession by Ogun, she's been skilled in aikido, ninjutsu and karate. But I'll agree that MUA is not the place for her. She needs to be in an X-man game
I dont see why Warren wasnt possible to be played on the last gen consoles
1) i know she's trained, but on a level of most fighters, she's not that great
2) angel imo wasn't used because until midway through XML2 he was kinda useless, i think he's perfectly usable now though that he's archangel and he could easily just have regular angel skins but have archangels moves.
i just hope the leveling is better... i think XML2 had the best system for leveling, MUA had the worst.. it was awful
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 03:46 PM
How is she not that great of a fighter? Read her mini-series. She didint have her powers the entire time and used only her martial arts. And her powers could be used to hurt people, not just phase through objects.
see above post.
and ya sure in theory she can hurt people, but this is a game where alot is going on and there not really close views.. what do you want her doing? phasing her hand through people and stopping there hearts? :huh:
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 03:47 PM
Psylocke should have been in instead of Elektra. Elektra was the most boring character in the game. If they needed a female ninja, Psylocke would have been the way to go as she is alot more versatile and would ahve been more unique instead of generic like Elektra was
elektra just needed better moves... i think both deserve to be in the game, but psylocke doesnt need projectile weapons, elektra does.
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 03:47 PM
also the supermoves need revamped... i hated having to use everyones at once
Exploding Boy
04-27-2008, 03:50 PM
see above post.
and ya sure in theory she can hurt people, but this is a game where alot is going on and there not really close views.. what do you want her doing? phasing her hand through people and stopping there hearts? :huh:
Maybe she'll just phase through them and it will stun and do damage? I dunno. But I agree she should be in XML game and not MUA
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 03:54 PM
Maybe she'll just phase through them and it will stun and do damage? I dunno. But I agree she should be in XML game and not MUA
i guess.. but i just find that sorta boring... she just walks through people and they fall to the ground...? lol not a whole lotta fun there. I see her as having some basic fighting moves, the ability to phase through the same walls NC can go through, some sort of stun move, and then some moves where lockheed comes out, she stands still and u control him for a lil bit
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 04:23 PM
I've given this one some thought ;)
possible Shadowcat moves...
Stunning step- press and hold attack where Kitty runs forward partially phased, knocking down and damaging enemies that she passes through
Up Down Sweet- Kitty phases into the ground and then up into the air doing an uppercut that does pop-up damage
Phase-Attack- a melee combo that ends with a phased roundhousekick through the chest that does physical damage and leaves enemies stunned
Phase Grab- press and hold attack where Kitty grabs the enemy's heart and drains life until the button is released
Lockheed- Kitty summons Lockheed who stays in the area for a short while, attacking the enemies she targets with flames
Ogun's Training- a boost that increases Kitty's melee damage and attack speed
Phase- a boost that makes Kitty intangible for a short time, allowing her to pass through walls and enemies and making her invulnerable for a short time
Dragon' Breath- EXTREME- Kitty phases out while Lockheed blankets the area in flames, causing burn and fire damage to opponents and leaving her intangible for a short time afterward
UPGRADABLE PASSIVE SKILLS
Technical Knowhow- kitty recieves more and better dropped items and at higer levels, more sheild points
Wolverine's Training- Kitty recieves speed, melee and attack speed bonuses
Good Heart- Kitty has a chance to save nearby allies from a deathblow by phasing them out at the last second (only when being controlled by AI)
you wouldn't have to physically see Kitty kick through someone or stick her hand in their heart, she would just be going through the motions. The characters are too small to worry about that amount of detail, but I think the overall effect would be the same, especially if her moves activated a wash of transperacy or a particular colored aura to glow around her when she did them.
Havok83
04-27-2008, 04:35 PM
The reason why Angel isn't possible on last-gen consoles is because of his wing animations, I believe. I don't remember EXACTLY why his wings would be a problem, but that's what we were told.
thats BS on the developers part bc they got it right since his character model was in the game as a boss. You coupld play as him on the PC version and he worked well
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 04:38 PM
oh yeah ,and her costumes should be...
the Blue and Black Shadowcat suit with the mask,
an old school yellow and black X-suit with the round x-belt,
her Wolverine's claw cat-suit (would have to add bleed damage)
her black leather coat costume, or maybe the street look she used when she was hanging out with Spidey
spideyboy_1111
04-27-2008, 05:21 PM
hello.... astonishing?
i also think her sprite costume would be cool cuz it was ridiculous
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 05:26 PM
Yeah, I like the Sprite look too, she's had a lot!
Savage
04-27-2008, 05:26 PM
shadow cat i'd rather save for an Xmen game... not MUA.. why? well one i dont really see her teaming at all up with the rest of the MU... and 2... i dont really see her at all that useful compared to anyone else.. she's not a great hand to hand fighter, and all u'd be able to do is phase through machines and then maybe have lockheed do most of the fighting *yawn
Actually this brings up a great idea for an evolution with this game. Team up characters. Giant-man and Wasp, Cloak and Dagger, Shadowcat and Lockheed. I'd love to be able to pick these teams as one character since they would not be much fun on their own. Can anybody think of any other teams?
Savage
04-27-2008, 05:34 PM
also the supermoves need revamped... i hated having to use everyones at once
Tell me about it. That got so annoying so fast.
Oh and Ghost Rider and his motorcycle would definitely be a cool team. The thing does have a mind of it's own after all.
Savage
04-27-2008, 05:35 PM
hello.... astonishing?
i also think her sprite costume would be cool cuz it was ridiculous
Now there's something that reminds me. Emma Frost needs to be in this game since Jean Grey is dead and she needs to be playable again. The entire Astonishing X-men team does.
Charlie No-One
04-27-2008, 06:04 PM
I would like it to be more like XML, where you still had the adventure part of the story with Magma. I would also like to see the game play to be more involved. Actually, I would like to see XML3 not MUA2.
Havok83
04-27-2008, 06:19 PM
Actually this brings up a great idea for an evolution with this game. Team up characters. Giant-man and Wasp, Cloak and Dagger, Shadowcat and Lockheed. I'd love to be able to pick these teams as one character since they would not be much fun on their own. Can anybody think of any other teams?
I dont get what you mean by team up characters? isnt this the same as selecting 2 characters?
Charlie No-One
04-27-2008, 06:20 PM
They would be counted as one character since their attacks would be combined.
Havok83
04-27-2008, 06:21 PM
Now there's something that reminds me. Emma Frost needs to be in this game since Jean Grey is dead and she needs to be playable again. The entire Astonishing X-men team does.
Jean isnt dead and I would love to see her playable in the next game.
DoomRulz
04-27-2008, 06:24 PM
Oh and Ghost Rider and his motorcycle would definitely be a cool team. The thing does have a mind of it's own after all.
This guy's on the ball. A ramming move like the Surfer using his board would be nice, in addition to using it to move around.
Savage
04-27-2008, 06:51 PM
Jean isnt dead and I would love to see her playable in the next game.
You mean the Jean that destroys the planet or the Jean from the reality where Nightcrawler and Xavier are dead and the X-men are disbanded? :oldrazz: I don't think either of those endings will be cannon.
Savage
04-27-2008, 06:54 PM
This guy's on the ball. A ramming move like the Surfer using his board would be nice, in addition to using it to move around.
Exactly. I'd love to have something similar to Wolverine's rage meter where you can use it for a while. It would be Wasp in Giant-man's case, Cloak in Dagger's case, and Lockheed in Shadowcat's case. These actually make sense though since they're either small or can teleport in there. I wouldn't want craziness like Winter Soldier to Cap's rescue. :oldrazz:
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 06:55 PM
I wondered why they didn't do that in part 1? GR's bkie could work just like SS's board, maybe it was too much graphically for current gen systems.
I love the idea of duo characters- I already had written that I would have loved Cloak and Dagger as one, but yeah- Wasp and Giant Man, Kitty and Lockheed, Crystal and Lockjaw, they would all be cool too!
ALso, I had thought it would be cool that if you could choose a fifth character, like a striker or a summon, who could show up and do a move in place of an Extreme attack.
Havok83
04-27-2008, 07:14 PM
You mean the Jean that destroys the planet or the Jean from the reality where Nightcrawler and Xavier are dead and the X-men are disbanded? :oldrazz: I don't think either of those endings will be cannon.
you just said it right there. Not canon, so her "death" wouldnt discount her from being in a future game
venom892
04-27-2008, 07:19 PM
I really want Flashbacks.Because it allows for boss battles and locations that don't have to be in line with the story of the game.For example if the story has to do witht he Red Skull and the Cosmic Cube{Which is actually what I would like.}There can be a Flashback where you play as a team of Hulk,Dr.Strange,Ghost Rider and Silver Surfer against Dormmamu.
Havok83
04-27-2008, 07:29 PM
I hope the next game has more of a focus. The story in MUA was all over the place. I think they threw way too much in as far as villians and stuff and theres bound to be some repetition in the squel
Docker2.0
04-27-2008, 07:41 PM
Hey, how do you beat Ymir the frost giant? Kind of stuck on him for a minute.
Zoken
04-27-2008, 07:44 PM
when he slams the club down, have one of your characters run up to it while holding a spear and you will go into a series of button prompts. Complete them accurately and you will end up stabbing Ymir in the back of the neck with the spear. Do that three or four times and you'll beat him.
Docker2.0
04-27-2008, 08:25 PM
Thanks Zoken! I appreciate it!
venom892
04-27-2008, 10:00 PM
I hope the next game has more of a focus. The story in MUA was all over the place. I think they threw way too much in as far as villians and stuff and theres bound to be some repetition in the squelWell I think there are still plenty of villains left that can provide fun boss battles.
Exploding Boy
04-27-2008, 10:31 PM
I've given this one some thought ;)
possible Shadowcat moves...
Stunning step- press and hold attack where Kitty runs forward partially phased, knocking down and damaging enemies that she passes through
Up Down Sweet- Kitty phases into the ground and then up into the air doing an uppercut that does pop-up damage
Phase-Attack- a melee combo that ends with a phased roundhousekick through the chest that does physical damage and leaves enemies stunned
Phase Grab- press and hold attack where Kitty grabs the enemy's heart and drains life until the button is released
Lockheed- Kitty summons Lockheed who stays in the area for a short while, attacking the enemies she targets with flames
Ogun's Training- a boost that increases Kitty's melee damage and attack speed
Phase- a boost that makes Kitty intangible for a short time, allowing her to pass through walls and enemies and making her invulnerable for a short time
Dragon' Breath- EXTREME- Kitty phases out while Lockheed blankets the area in flames, causing burn and fire damage to opponents and leaving her intangible for a short time afterward
UPGRADABLE PASSIVE SKILLS
Technical Knowhow- kitty recieves more and better dropped items and at higer levels, more sheild points
Wolverine's Training- Kitty recieves speed, melee and attack speed bonuses
Good Heart- Kitty has a chance to save nearby allies from a deathblow by phasing them out at the last second (only when being controlled by AI)
you wouldn't have to physically see Kitty kick through someone or stick her hand in their heart, she would just be going through the motions. The characters are too small to worry about that amount of detail, but I think the overall effect would be the same, especially if her moves activated a wash of transperacy or a particular colored aura to glow around her when she did them.
See this is cool and would totally work.
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 11:12 PM
Thanks.
I hope she makse the cut!
Havok83
04-27-2008, 11:28 PM
Well I think there are still plenty of villains left that can provide fun boss battles.
sure but they used alot of their big guns in this MUA, at least the more well known and interesting ones
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 11:39 PM
There's still enough villains to go around. And if this game does end up being based on CIvil War at all, then there will be a lot of hero vs hero stuff anyway
Blacklight
04-27-2008, 11:40 PM
I think the roster should be every character from Gold Edition, plus Ronin, Black Widow, and Captain Marvel from PSP, and add these guys:
Iron Fist
Punisher
She-Hulk
Yellowjacket/Ant-Man/Giant Man (maybe with Wasp)
Wasp (maybe with Hank Pym)
Shang Chi
Namor
Bucky/Winter Soldier
Psylocke
Jean Grey
Gambit
Rogue
Beast
Nova
Speedball
Sentry
Black Cat
Vision
Black Bolt
Falcon or Angel
Kitty Pryde
Villains:
Juggernaut or Rhino
Toad
Quicksilver
Scarlet Witch
Pyro
Doc Ock
Green Goblin
Sandman
And it should steer clear of the Young Avengers. They're not needed. They would just be clones of their mentors.
Blacklight
04-27-2008, 11:40 PM
And most of the characters' movesets from the last game need to be seriously amped up.:up:
Havok83
04-27-2008, 11:43 PM
but to be realistic , theres no way they are going to include the 30+ characters from the first game and then add that many. It would be great if they could, but they cant.
Blacklight
04-27-2008, 11:46 PM
Than at least Punisher, Iron Fist, The Pyms, Falcon, Namor, Vision, and Black Cat.
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 11:54 PM
And I think a lot of the characters should have less moves. I endd up spedning a lot of time switching between powers and testing them out to see which were the best instead of focusing on the gameplay.
Iceman had way too many moves, ELektra too, and Blade had a lot that were all way too similar. Ghost Rider too, he could have lost one or two of his moves and I think it would have been better
shadowdog
04-27-2008, 11:57 PM
I think they'll probably leave a few of the characters from the first game out and add a bunch of new ones. New characters are one of a game like this' biggest selling points
Blacklight
04-28-2008, 12:00 AM
I think they'll probably leave a few of the characters from the first game out and add a bunch of new ones. New characters are one of a game like this' biggest selling points
They don't need to be taken out per se, but revamped, and maybe with less attacks, they can fit a few more new guys.
Maybe they can even add Link and Samus for the Wii like they were going to.:up: That would be fecking awesome! :woot:
Havok83
04-28-2008, 04:55 AM
And I think a lot of the characters should have less moves. I endd up spedning a lot of time switching between powers and testing them out to see which were the best instead of focusing on the gameplay.
Iceman had way too many moves, ELektra too, and Blade had a lot that were all way too similar. Ghost Rider too, he could have lost one or two of his moves and I think it would have been better
No they should leave the characters with the same amount of moves. One complaint from XML was that there werent enough. Variety is a good thing
venom892
04-28-2008, 09:08 AM
Yea keep the moves.Anyways this is what I want.
Bring Back
Spider-man
Wolverine
Thor{Beta Ray Bill,Thunderstrike}
Captain America{U.S Agent,Bucky}
Iron Man{War Machine}
Mr.Fantastic
Invisble Woman
Human Torch
The Thing
Daredevil
Hulk
Ghost Rider
Deadpool
Dr.Strange
Luke Cage
Storm
Black Panther
Silver Surfer
Cyclops
Collosus
Hawkeye
Moon Knight
Nightcrawler
New Playable Characters
Iron Fist
The Punisher
Nova
Psylocke
Gambit
Vision
She-Hulk
Villains
Doctor Octopus
Electro
Mr.Fear
Kingpin
Sandman
Hammerhead
Tombstone
Dormammu
Surtur
Syn and Crossbones
Serpent Society
Baron Zemo
Red Skull
Thanos
Galactus on Earth
Gladiator
Bubonic
04-28-2008, 09:57 AM
Sorry, but this game, was it good on the ps2?
I'm very wary of games made for current gen and next gen at the same time, the current gen usually looks like crap.
shadowdog
04-28-2008, 10:06 AM
I played it on PS2 first and I thought it was fine. It didn't glitch on me once even after playing through it 3 or 4 times. It looked good and I think the lack of the next-gen exclusive characters was the biggest drawback to it.
shadowdog
04-28-2008, 10:07 AM
But he 360 version did look a lot nicer when I fianlly got it.
DoomRulz
04-28-2008, 11:12 AM
What we need more than anything else is villain-playability. It'd be pretty cool to play as Scorpion I think. Or Ymir :word:
Savage
04-28-2008, 02:04 PM
Goblin And Bullseye!
Blacklight
04-28-2008, 02:37 PM
I want to play Ock! And Quicksilver, too!
cerealkiller182
04-28-2008, 03:19 PM
What we need more than anything else is villain-playability. It'd be pretty cool to play as Scorpion I think. Or Ymir :word:
Scorp is apretty good idea. You could prolly get creative with his moves with that tail.
shadowdog
04-28-2008, 03:28 PM
I just hope that we will be able to use all of the character's moves against the villains we fight in part 2. I didn't make sense that you couldn't freeze, use TK, grab or web the villains. It made it useless to use certain characters against the bosses and mini-bosses. Why can't Spidey web Scorpion r Mysterio? I've seen him do it at least once or twice if not a few dozen times!
Savage
04-28-2008, 05:16 PM
Yeah that really was ridiculous. It's why I ended up choosing Spider-man very few times. Venom also felt like a pretty useless character.
Finlandman
04-29-2008, 07:29 AM
My List:
Spider-man
Hulk/Hulktar
X-men (now with Cyclops, Shadowcat and Emma)
FF
Iron man
Captain America
Thor
Giant Man & Wasp
Black Panther
Hawkeye
Daredevil
Luke Cage
Spider-Woman
Silver Surfer
Moon Knight
Elektra
Nick Fury
Doctor Strange
Ghost Rider
Blade
Black Widow
And more Female characters!
shadowdog
04-29-2008, 09:43 AM
They can keep almost everyone from the first one, with the exception of Elektra and Blade (both of whom I thought were lackluster characters) but the new heroes I think could make it are....
Namor
She-Hulk
Vision
Crystal
Blackbolt
Iron Fist
Havok
Polaris
Captain Mar-vell
Quicksilver
the Punisher
Hank Pym
Wasp
and the characters I'd love to see, but won't hold my breath for are...
Cloak and Dagger
Shadowcat
Captain Britain
Sasquatch
Shatterstar
Dazzler
Wonderman
and Diamondback
Docker2.0
04-29-2008, 10:17 AM
Hey guys, Docker here again. I'm trying to replay this game but I'm stuck on Loki. What's the best 4 to use against him and how do I beat this guy. Seems like once this guy hits you with electricity, you are done. :huh:
shadowdog
04-29-2008, 12:45 PM
I think Silver Surfer and Thor are key to this battle. I kept SS at a distance and kept blasting him with my most powerful beam attack and made sure to heal often.
* Keep SS in the air, when you see Loki start to do his elctricity attack, move as far away as you can and you should be able to avoid that deadly f-ing attack, and then heal everyone that got hit with it.
Also keep Thor wth his speed boost on with executioner's axe for a finisher bonus and keep melee attacking for a lot of damage or use his hammer attack, which ever is stronger.
I used Spiderwoman and Ironman as my other two characters for SW's heal and venom blast and Ironman's boost that lowers energy usage and his projectiles
Docker2.0
04-29-2008, 12:58 PM
Dang it SD! If only I can let you beat this guy for me. :( I have it on the hardest mode so if dude dies, then they are dead the rest of the game.
shadowdog
04-29-2008, 01:13 PM
I had a lot of trouble with Loki th elast time around, he was probably the hardest in the game for me. It took me about 20 time the first time I played through on the hardest level until I got the team that worked best for me, having to re-load everytime so as not to lose anybody.
When I fianlly beat him, I just had to stand up, flip both middle fingers in the air and scream "F-you A**Hole, whose dead now?!"
...but it was frustrating as all hell!
Docker2.0
04-29-2008, 01:16 PM
yeah that's probably what I'll do. I can't even get this dude to half his energy. Dude is hard as hell.
shadowdog
04-29-2008, 01:21 PM
Yeah I remember it well....still makes me mad to think about it too!
good luck!
Nathan
04-29-2008, 01:23 PM
I haven't completed the game on hard yet. Got bored halfway. But I purchased the game again for the PSP, and wonder how difficult it'll be. I'm on normal right now and Ronin is a total boss killer. Didn't like the character in the comics much, but she rocks in the game.
Docker2.0
04-29-2008, 01:26 PM
put it on the hardest mode you can and see how far you can get. Game is darn near impossible!
Nathan
04-29-2008, 01:30 PM
I can see why it would be. With bosses being not as vulnerable and upped attack power, certain tactics would be required. Which is a difficult task with the AI being dumb as dirt.
Sparta*
04-29-2008, 01:55 PM
Only way to beat Loki on hard is to have this team (for me at least)
Deadpool - range and health regen
Wolverine - health regen
Hulk - Raw Power
Silver Surfer - healing
and you HAVE to block the lightning or you will die. Even with this team expect only to have one person standing at the end of that fight. The team will all die from the lightning because they are too stupid to block.
Ghost Rider in his blue costume would be good to because he has a ressurection boost
Docker2.0
04-29-2008, 02:02 PM
Don't have Hulk on psp version. And if they die, they won't come back. I have it on hardest mode there is.
Nathan
04-29-2008, 02:04 PM
Oh, yeah. I forgot. MUA on the PSP has that mode that every character, that dies, stays dead. Doesn't it even have a difficult setting where you can only pick one 4-Man team for the entire game?
Docker2.0
04-29-2008, 02:07 PM
I think so. They also have that mode where you have only one character for the entire game. He's totally maxed out as well as his costumes.....................just takes the fun out of it actually.
Charlie No-One
04-29-2008, 02:11 PM
The AI in this game really pisses me off. I am on the Bifrost Bridge level and 2/4 of my team keeps dying because they run off the edge of the bridge.
Docker2.0
04-29-2008, 02:16 PM
Eh. You and I seem to be on the same level. And yes, the AI does indeed sux on this game! :cmad:
shadowdog
04-29-2008, 02:31 PM
I just checked another site to confirm, but waaay back in 2006 when the first MUA came out, we started seeing trailers, videos and learning about confirmed charcters in May (starting with the release of the trailer), and the game was released at the end of October, which will probably be around the time that this one hits shelves. So hopefully that means we might start seeing some solid info or the trailer for the sequel in the next month or two... I hope!
shadowdog
04-29-2008, 02:57 PM
The AI in this game really pisses me off. I am on the Bifrost Bridge level and 2/4 of my team keeps dying because they run off the edge of the bridge.
I hated that! It was awful for me too. But the neat thing about Bifrost is that there are three or four areas of the level where the digital 'ceiling' has a hole, and a flying character can slip through and keep traveling up indefinitely until the world below is a tiny speck...and then you can charge-slam yourself all the way back down- too bad it doesn't kill every bad guy in a wave of destruction like it should!
Docker2.0
04-29-2008, 03:00 PM
Where SD? I want to try this!! I need to know NOW!!! :cmad:
shadowdog
04-29-2008, 03:07 PM
It was near the center of the level before you get to the wrecked ship where Volla's treasure chest is but towards the outer edge near the tree line, on the left side, behind you as you enter the center area. (the area looked round from the air)
It's kind of hard to remember right now, but when I get home later, maybe I can try to find it again.
It was a total fluke the first time it happened, but I found 2 (maybe 3) more on the same level, but not on any others!
It was cool.
Spider-Vader
04-29-2008, 08:15 PM
The AI in this game really pisses me off. I am on the Bifrost Bridge level and 2/4 of my team keeps dying because they run off the edge of the bridge.
That's never happened to me. My AI usually dies during boss battles.
DoomRulz
04-29-2008, 08:22 PM
That's never happened to me. My AI usually dies during boss battles.
Sometimes they die as soon as it starts...Loki anyone?
Matt Mortem
04-29-2008, 10:29 PM
Does anyone know when MUA2 comes out? I've beaten the first one on PC and psp and I just bought it for 360 and it is hands down the best game I've ever played!
Havok83
04-29-2008, 10:34 PM
Does anyone know when MUA2 comes out? I've beaten the first one on PC and psp and I just bought it for 360 and it is hands down the best game I've ever played!
Apparently it was revealed at Comicon for a 2009 release
shadowdog
04-29-2008, 10:42 PM
Is that new news? Becasue I knw there was an incorrect report last week about a postponment that was apparently retracted, but if this new news then I'll just have to learn to live with it....but I won't like it!
shadowdog
04-29-2008, 10:46 PM
this waht I had heard...
Editor’s Correction:
In speaking with Wombat and the representative from Activision from whom he got the quote, it appears there was a good deal of confusion over what information was actually relayed. At no point did anyone from Activision say or imply that “Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 will not be out in 2008.” The conversation involved the new Spider-man game, and how it probably wouldn’t be released within a couple weeks of Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2’s launch (so as not to compete), but no specific dates were ever discussed. Our sincere apologies for the confusion.
Finlandman
04-29-2008, 10:51 PM
Docker, you need to BLOCK. I was too in same situation and I hated Activision for making so hard boss fight. But then I just tried every single button, and I found out that I can block. When you block enough, you can win Loki on Elektra alone.
Docker2.0
04-29-2008, 11:03 PM
That's the thing though! I probably could beat Loki but I don't want any of my men to die! The AI in this game sux to hell! :cmad:
Savage
04-30-2008, 12:17 AM
Docker, you need to BLOCK. I was too in same situation and I hated Activision for making so hard boss fight. But then I just tried every single button, and I found out that I can block. When you block enough, you can win Loki on Elektra alone.
Pretty much. People keep forgetting that that block button is there when it really helps out a lot...Good luck with Doom though. My characters are up there in the 70s and I still have trouble with Doom on hard. Now THAT is a boss. I hope we get a similar ending next time around (fight evil heroes) but it's a zombified Avengers instead of evil Fantastic Four.
Blacklight
04-30-2008, 12:22 AM
I'd also think it would be sick if the storyline from MUA should just be turned into it's own comic book series, where the Marvel Universe teams up with Nick Fury, and teams of four heroes can go on a mission from the game in each issue all leading up to one huge fight against Dr. Doom.
DoomRulz
04-30-2008, 09:35 AM
Pretty much. People keep forgetting that that block button is there when it really helps out a lot...Good luck with Doom though. My characters are up there in the 70s and I still have trouble with Doom on hard. Now THAT is a boss. I hope we get a similar ending next time around (fight evil heroes) but it's a zombified Avengers instead of evil Fantastic Four.
FF made the most sense since they were Doom's arch-enemies.
shadowdog
04-30-2008, 09:41 AM
Yeah, the last battle on hard was pretty intense! There were so many evil FF clones running everywhere, and for the first doze tries, all of my people but one wnded up dying before I ever got to fight Doom. It was pretty satisfying to beat!
Matt Mortem
04-30-2008, 05:47 PM
That Captain America comic mission is a pain in the ass. I had to do it twice. I'll tell you this tho, venom is awesome!
Colossal Spoons
04-30-2008, 06:37 PM
Sabretooth FTW
Havok83
04-30-2008, 07:45 PM
It would be interesting if they abandoned the continuity of the first game and had the next one based entirely on the Ultimate universe. Have the Ultimates team up with the Ult-X-men, FF and other heroes and create a story based on that universe
spideyboy_1111
04-30-2008, 07:47 PM
i wouldn't buy it... the ultimate universe sucks
DoomRulz
04-30-2008, 09:00 PM
i wouldn't buy it... the ultimate universe sucks
Seconded. It was bad enough most of the game's better costumes were the crappy ultimate ones, let's not go further than that.
Ryuuie
04-30-2008, 09:48 PM
i wouldn't buy it... the ultimate universe sucks
Ultimate Spider-Man alone outsold Amazing Spider-Man. :P So it can't suck THAT badly.
spideyboy_1111
04-30-2008, 10:05 PM
Ultimate Spider-Man alone outsold Amazing Spider-Man. :P So it can't suck THAT badly.
umm... actually it hasn't for a while to my knowledge... it did at one time, which was around amz's most suckiest moments. ultimate has lost alot of readers.
venom892
04-30-2008, 10:29 PM
No ultimate universe for me.It's the reason I didn't like the Ultimate Spider-man game.
Manic
04-30-2008, 10:35 PM
Given the state the Ultimate Universe has been in for the past year or two, um... hell no.
Finlandman
04-30-2008, 11:10 PM
i wouldn't buy it... the ultimate universe sucks
I third that.
Ryuuie
05-01-2008, 02:16 AM
umm... actually it hasn't for a while to my knowledge... it did at one time, which was around amz's most suckiest moments. ultimate has lost alot of readers.
Still, the fact that it's outsold ASM is still something special (Spectacular? :P) since ASM the comic it was based on.
but anyway, Which would you prefer...Brand New Day...or USM? :P I'd prefer USM and so would most people since OMD and BND FAILED in most reviews I've seen.
spideyboy_1111
05-01-2008, 10:17 AM
Still, the fact that it's outsold ASM is still something special (Spectacular? :P) since ASM the comic it was based on.
but anyway, Which would you prefer...Brand New Day...or USM? :P I'd prefer USM and so would most people since OMD and BND FAILED in most reviews I've seen.
1) your an idiot (i mean no disrespect, but what your saying just isn't logical)
2) out selling amazing at one point does not mean anything, just that at one point it was better. (which overall it's not, nor has it maintained that status)
3) the Ultimate universe is starting to become obsolete
4)BND is just a story, ultimate is a whole new universe, whole new look, all new stories. If they went with BND over Ultimate? who'd care... all they'd do is throw in jackpot and some of his new villains and call it a day. which hell i wouldnt mind jackpot in ultimate alliance. It's not like UA will be all about spidey and saving his aunt by selling his marriage to mephisto... :o. Ultimate alliance games honestly just take the ultimate look and create there own story.. (see XML, XML2, MUA) all do that. The ultimate look is played out and dumb, the universe has lost alot of readers, and its beging to become depleted.
Ryuuie
05-01-2008, 07:51 PM
1) your an idiot (i mean no disrespect, but what your saying just isn't logical)
Well, no disrespect to you either, but you're a close-minded moron. :p
2) out selling amazing at one point does not mean anything, just that at one point it was better. (which overall it's not, nor has it maintained that status)No, it doesn't mean anything to YOU because you're biased against the Ultimate Universe. In the real world, while it doesn't mean a WHOLE LOT, it still counts for something.
3) the Ultimate universe is starting to become obsoleteThis is an opinion, not a fact. If this is a fact, I want your proof that it's becoming obsolete. I haven't heard anyone *****ing TOO much about USM, sure they probably ARE *****ing but not at the degree you claim.
4)BND is just a story, ultimate is a whole new universe, whole new look, all new stories. If they went with BND over Ultimate? who'd care... all they'd do is throw in jackpot and some of his new villains and call it a day. which hell i wouldnt mind jackpot in ultimate alliance. It's not like UA will be all about spidey and saving his aunt by selling his marriage to mephisto... :o. Ultimate alliance games honestly just take the ultimate look and create there own story.. (see XML, XML2, MUA) all do that. The ultimate look is played out and dumb, the universe has lost alot of readers, and its beging to become depleted.[/quote]
tl;dr.
But seriously, you're biased against the Ulti-verse, I'm sure you'd think no one would care.
I'm not talking about the game, I'm talking about how more people preferred the USM storylines that were going on at the same time as OMD/BND.
Colossal Spoons
05-01-2008, 08:07 PM
1) your an idiot (i mean no disrespect, but what your saying just isn't logical)
I thought it was your an idiot; I don't want it, you take it.
The Geek Vault
05-01-2008, 08:14 PM
Any news on UA2
Charlie No-One
05-03-2008, 04:43 PM
I am pretty sure the Thing is the worst character in the game.
Ryuuie
05-03-2008, 04:47 PM
I am pretty sure the Thing is the worst character in the game.
Even Elektra's better than he is, but at least he doesn't roam around and get separated from the rest of the team like Luke Cage does.
DoomRulz
05-03-2008, 04:58 PM
Even Elektra's better than he is, but at least he doesn't roam around and get separated from the rest of the team like Luke Cage does.
:| Elektra is useless in every way imaginable. At least the Thing is a heavy hitter.
Storm22
05-03-2008, 04:58 PM
I am pretty sure the Thing is the worst character in the game.
Totally disagree! The Thing is fine, especially when he's fully levelled up! Blade, Elektra, Luke Cage and Nick Yury are all worse imo.
Savage
05-03-2008, 05:17 PM
I have to disagree with you on Cage and Fury (man does that sound like a great comic). Those two are fantastic. Cage is actually my best heavy hitter. Even better than Hulk. Fury is a friggin' stealth master.
Ryuuie
05-03-2008, 05:21 PM
:| Elektra is useless in every way imaginable. At least the Thing is a heavy hitter.
Elektra is actually playable if you build her right. I can solo with her easily (and have twice).
I have to disagree with you on Cage and Fury (man does that sound like a great comic). Those two are fantastic. Cage is actually my best heavy hitter. Even better than Hulk. Fury is a friggin' stealth master.
I didn't say Cage was unplayable, I said he wanders away from the team frequently and you have to go back to get him OR revive him if he's suicided. It's another case of the game's terrible AI.
DoomRulz
05-03-2008, 05:21 PM
Blade is actually pretty good. His sword attack is powerful (power #1). Cage is useful too. His pick-up-and-swing bad guy attack is so much fun to use :woot:
Havok83
05-03-2008, 05:23 PM
I have to disagree with you on Cage and Fury (man does that sound like a great comic). Those two are fantastic. Cage is actually my best heavy hitter. Even better than Hulk. Fury is a friggin' stealth master.
IA. Cage is one of the better heavy hitters in the game
Elektra is by far the worst character in the game
Charlie No-One
05-03-2008, 08:02 PM
I have leveled up Elektra and found her to be amazing, but I am leveling up the Thing and he still sucks.
SouLeSS
05-03-2008, 08:11 PM
:up:
Charlie No-One
05-03-2008, 08:27 PM
For those who find Thing to be capable of killing someone one his own, any hints of leveling him so he is good?
Ryuuie
05-03-2008, 08:27 PM
I have leveled up Elektra and found her to be amazing, but I am leveling up the Thing and he still sucks.
Exactly! X3 Elektra's better than Thing, but not better than Luke but they BOTH have better AI than Luke.
Finlandman
05-03-2008, 10:04 PM
I don't understand all the hate for Nick Fury. He goes invisible, has a great judo move, his sniper destroys everything and it undeniabely cool to fight against enemy with the machine gun while moving.
For Luke Cage either. His first power says it all; one uber-strong punch. His other powers are cool also. His special can be used several times, He can take enemy and swing him around ( it's useless, but it looks cool) and he looks badass.
DoomRulz
05-04-2008, 12:04 AM
I have leveled up Elektra and found her to be amazing, but I am leveling up the Thing and he still sucks.
That's very odd. Thing is ideal for clearing away a large crowd of enemies. I can't tell you how many times that earth smash move of his has saved my life.
Savage
05-04-2008, 12:19 AM
I don't understand all the hate for Nick Fury. He goes invisible, has a great judo move, his sniper destroys everything and it undeniabely cool to fight against enemy with the machine gun while moving.
For Luke Cage either. His first power says it all; one uber-strong punch. His other powers are cool also. His special can be used several times, He can take enemy and swing him around ( it's useless, but it looks cool) and he looks badass.
Yeah I love charging up that punch and knocking people out cold. Hell, I love all the charge moves. Iron Man's uppercut, Captain America's shield smash, Thor's hammer slam. They're all just brutal, brutal, moves. I also like turning on Luke Cage's defense where everything bounces right off of him. It's like walking into a room with Superman. I wish The Thing Colossus had the same power ups. It would actually make more sense for them.
Balthus Dire
05-04-2008, 12:31 AM
I don't think you guys are giving Elektra enough credit. Her "paralyze" move she has was very useful in a lot of situations. She can basically go around the room paralyzing every enemy very quickly and if it's high enough level they'll stay put for a long while. She's not the best character, but she's certainly not the worst.
Besides, a lot of the characters in MUA were pretty useless anyway. I always found Colossus to be a colossal (lol) bore. And who could forget Spider-Woman and The Thing? Oh, wait...I did every time I played through the game.
Spider-Kid
05-04-2008, 02:29 AM
MUA2 Has been pushed up 1 year.
BizarroAids
05-04-2008, 05:09 AM
I have to disagree with you on Cage and Fury (man does that sound like a great comic). Those two are fantastic. Cage is actually my best heavy hitter. Even better than Hulk. Fury is a friggin' stealth master.
I agree Savage, throw Fury, Cage, Deadpool, and Hawkeye on a team, and you've got a badass setup right there. That's the team I love using the most, if i'm not in "Flashy Superhero Mode'':woot::o
DoomRulz
05-04-2008, 10:46 AM
MUA2 Has been pushed up 1 year.
What?! That sux...source?
Charlie No-One
05-04-2008, 10:51 AM
If it is true, I think it is good. I don't want them to rush this out.
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