Should Spider-Man 3 be the last in the series?

["Iron Man"]

I really think it should, because even though we have millions of stories to tell, and millions of villains to use, after awhile, Spider-Man will get old. But don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Spider-Man films, comics, games, and etc.

[Spider-Grrl1516]

Last I heard they planned on doing 6.

[GoldGoblin]

They need more than just 3 movies.

[Advanced Dark]

Sony will keep pumping out Spiderman films as fast as they can. Sure that will slow down when there are casting and director changes but eventually another Spiderman film will come out. As technology advances they'll just get better and better since they have so much source material to derive from. Ending a franchise that has been around since the 60's after 3 films that have all generated billions and billions in revenue each is purely idiotic. So whether you want Spiderman 4,5,6,7 or not...they'll happen as long as the fans are buying tickets like they are. If they put out a crappy sequel the fans will react with bad word of mouth, less tickets sold, and then Sony will slow down. Remember (God I go over this so many times) Sony got the Spider-Man rights "on the cheap" when Marvel was struggling and coming out of bankruptcy and Spiderman was one of the deals that saved the day for Marvel. Those old deals stink but were neccessary for Marvel to get going. If Sony stopped making Spider-Man films Marvel would get the rights back and the stock would quadruple in an hour. Sony's not stupid. If you look at their earnings reports since the first Spiderman you'll see Spiderman has completely saved their finances and earnings surrounding both films. Without Spiderman Sony would have been in a deep hole. They can't afford to lose Spidey. Here's something that sums it up for you guys to see why franchises like X-Men and Spider-man just won't end because some actor or director says so. LOL

Sans Spider-Man, Sony sure sputters in 3Q
Slowing sales of PlayStation 2 also hurt conglomerate.
By Meredith Amdur 1/28/2004
JAN. 28 | NEW YORK--Sony Pictures' fiscal earnings announcement Wednesday proved just how valuable a multibillion-dollar franchise film like Spider-Man can be. Without the webslinger's video superpowers, sales and operating profits for 2003 at the film and TV group fell off a cliff.

In fact, SPE had the ignominious distinction of reporting the Japanese conglomerate's single biggest divisional profit drop, as the group reported operating income down a whopping 82% for the three months to Dec. 31, vs. the same period of the previous year, which had the Spider-Man video retail/rental safety web.



SPE finished 2003 with roughly 13% of domestic box office receipts at slightly less than $1.1 billion. But it was the lack of a gangbuster video release, like last year's Spidey, that really blew a hole in the division's quarterly earnings statement. It also was characteristic of the fiscal whiplash a film company can face on a quarter-to-quarter comparative basis.


The precipitous falloff proves just how critical home entertainment sales are to film companies these days.


Sans Spider-Man, which generated $347.7 million in consumer spending on rentals and purchases in its first two months of release in November and December 2002, Sony Pictures sales dropped 29.3% to $1.69 billion. That was despite the fact that theatrical revenue actually increased during the December quarter compared to the year-ago period, driven by strong outings for Something's Gotta Give and overseas box office for Bad Boys II and S.W.A.T. The company admitted it also was negatively affected by the disappointing U.S. theatrical perf of The Missing.


Fortunately for new SPE chair Michael Lynton, there's nowhere to go but up in subsequent quarters, as he presides over a calendar year that should salvage the picture division's fortunes--Spider-Man 2 hits theaters July 2--as well as a strong TV lineup that includes hits like CBS' Joan of Arcadia.


For 2004, Sony clearly is hopeful that the second iteration of the Spider-Man franchise in July, along with Johnny Depp starrer Secret Window (March 12) and Adam Sandler/Drew Barrymore vehicle 50 First Dates (Feb. 13), will return the film unit to a more stable earnings course.


Sony chief financial officer Rob Weistenthal described Spider-Man--"the fifth largest film of all time"--as one of the most important franchises in the business. Calling early viewings of the sequel "spectacular," Weistenthal also noted the first Spider-Man 2 trailer was the single most viewed file on the Internet.


With an income statement still littered with daunting restructuring charges, Sony Corp. has been struggling to find its footing.


A rebound in consumer electronic sales--particularly flat-screen TV sets and DVD players--couldn't offset the steep profit falloffs in the movie and videogame hardware divisions as Sony Corp. reported overall net profits down 26% in the most recent quarter to $866 million. Total revenue companywide rose a scant 0.7% to $21.7 billion.


Operating income for the group was down slightly more than 20% to $1.48 billion (down only 15% on a local-currency basis) compared to the same period a year ago, due mostly to some 53.6 billion yen ($501 million) in restructuring expenses, like severance pay for its thousands of recently laid-off staffers. Some $433 million of that was recorded in the electronics division, which is struggling to compete with numerous new low-cost manufacturers. As part of a painful worldwide restructuring effort, Sony is in the process of shedding some 12% of its work force, or 20,000 employees.


Sony CEO Nobuyuki Idei said restructuring efforts were "progressing smoothly" and reiterated his commitment to "spare no effort to expand sales and improve profitability."


That said, Sony officials see some light at the end of the tunnel and are forecasting 10% profit growth for 2004.


Sony's electronics division boosted revenues by a scant 0.4% in the last quarter to $14 billion, thanks to strong demand for its cell phones and DVD recorders. But operating income dived 40% to $468 million thanks to the charges. The increasingly tight videogame business also was under pressure, with operating profits in the division down 1.6% to $666 million as PlayStation 2 sales slowed. Total sales of $3.5 billion were down 4.5% from the year-ago period.


On a brighter note, Sony Music Entertainment recorded a tidy 50% jump in operating income to $286 million thanks to major cost-cutting in promotions and overhead. Currency issues continued to crimp a recovering top line, however, as sales dropped 3% in the last quarter to $1.7 billion. (On a U.S. dollar basis, sales at SME actually were up 6%.) Among the bright lights were Michael Jackson's "Number Ones" and Beyonce's "Dangerously in Love."


Sony Music is in the process of trying to merge with Bertelsmann Music Group but still awaits extensive regulatory review in the U.S. and European Union.


Reported by Daily Variety for Reed Business Information

To follow that up what happened with Spidey 2? WE all know don't we:

Sony springs from Spider-Man web
By Staff Writers, 29 October 2004 00:00 AEST Finance


Sony yesterday reported a big boost in profits in the second quarter, due to the success of box office hit Spider-Man 2.

The Tokyo-based consumer electronics giant said net income for the fiscal quarter ended 30 September was US$499.7 million, a 61.6 percent jump from the same period a year ago and the first increase in seven quarters.





Operating income, which is sales minus the cost of sales, advertising and administrative expenses, increased 31 percent to US$408.4 million. The strong results were primarily due to Sony's movie business, which got a big boost from the blockbuster Spider-Man 2.

Sony, however, reported weak results in its other businesses, and warned that the outlook wasn't as good for the next half of the fiscal year. Potential problems included a slowing US economy and higher prices for raw materials and oil.

"We are working towards improved profitability by focusing strategic resources in key business areas, as well as making use of alliances with other companies," Nobuyuki Idei, chairman and group chief executive for Sony, said in a statement.

[Spider-Grrl1516]

You have a point...


But it's "Spider-Man" not "Spiderman".

[Advanced Dark]

^ I hope you're joking.

[Spider-Grrl1516]

I'm not. The amount of people that get it wrong astounds me.

[Arcturus]

What does this have to do with the topic at hand?

[Spider-Grrl1516]

I don't know. I'm just complaining about how many people spell Spider-Man wrong.

[War Party]

nothing at all.

[Arcturus]

I don't know. I'm just complaining about how many people spell Spider-Man wrong.

Who cares?

Anyways;

In my opinion I hope SM-3 isn't' the last movie.

[Spider-Grrl1516]

So do I.

[i-n-z-a-n-e]

I think that there should be more than 3 but definitly not more than 10. Because I think that SM3 is just going to introduce Eddie Brock as a character and his issues, later showing how the symbiote came upon him and only fight towards the end and have 4 a rivalry between Venom and Spiderman.

[GreenKToo]

No way sony is gonna stop making SPIDERMAN movies.he he sorry.spider-man,any way, its their cash cow,i'm sure we'll see several more of em.

[TheCardPlayer]

Hell no. Bring back Venom for SM4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10.

[Spider-Grrl1516]

Hell no. Bring back Venom for SM4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10.

That's a whole lot of Venom...

[lordofthenerds]

I voted know, but I don't want to see up to Spider-Man 30. There should be 6.

[TheCardPlayer]

That's a whole lot of Venom...I forgot Venom Vs Batman and Venom Vs Superman.

[WorthyStevens]

This franchise won't end with 3. :p

[War Party]

This franchise won't end with 3. :p

agreed. it's pretty much given that sm3 is going to make a boat load of money, just based on the reputation of the first 2. and I'm confident it's going to be a great film. just as long it makes it's money, the more films there will be.

[WorthyStevens]

Tobey Maguire, Thomas Haden Church, Topher Grace, Bryce Dallas Howard. That's a hell of a cast if you ask me.

[War Party]

Tobey Maguire, Thomas Haden Church, Topher Grace, Bryce Dallas Howard. That's a hell of a cast if you ask me.

It is a good cast. I have faith in Topher and I thought Church was great in Sideways. I don't know too much about Howard but I'm sure she's good too.

[WorthyStevens]

You should be The Village. Suck ass movie, but outside of that, she's AMAZING in it.

[Advanced Dark]

I don't know. I'm just complaining about how many people spell Spider-Man wrong.


It's not a matter of knowing how to spell it mkay. I don't feel like slowing on my typing to insert a "-" and then Cap. Get over it.

[The Kid]

Me neither. If you know what I mean when I type "spiderman" then I don't see anything wrong with avoiding all the shift + this and that for speed reasons. What's so great about the hyphen anyway? I think it's only for copyright purposes. Superman doesn't have that crap.

And about the thread. I think this should be the last for this version of spidey and then they should redo the whole thing properly.

[Spider-Bite]

this poll is unfair. I don't want it to end at 3 but you can't realistically expect it to go to 30 either.

[Gamma Burst]

As many movies as possible :spidey:

[Dcknight]

the more they will be sequel the more this franchise will sucks! What's matter to do 3 movie with all the same cast and crew and after just stop! what's so complicated a good trilogy and that's it, nothing more, you don't think the consequences of more than 3 sequels

[Arcturus]

this poll is unfair. I don't want it to end at 3 but you can't realistically expect it to go to 30 either.

You're right, i'm expecting about 30, 000 or something like that, to be realistic, of course.

;)

[ben_reilly_s_s]

If they can kill the X-Franchise with 3 they can and should do the same to Spider-Man. At least the X-Men films are watchable!

[WorthyStevens]

If they can kill the X-Franchise with 3 they can and should do the same to Spider-Man. At least the X-Men films are watchable!

X3's most likely not gonna be the last installment...

[Samuryan]

I don't believe it should be the last.

And if you think about it, as long as Spiderman continues to make millions with each release, they will keep making it. People are greedy, and so long as it is profitable, they will continue to be made.

[ben_reilly_s_s]

word of mouth affects all movies, and if they screw this up as bad as the other 2 or worse, it wont make any money after 2 weeks

[War Party]

word of mouth affects all movies, and if they screw this up as bad as the other 2 or worse, it wont make any money after 2 weeks

The other two made tons of money, so that had a good word of mouth. Spider-man alone is a box office draw. There is no reason why this movie will fail financially.

[Doctor Octopus]

There will be at least another Spider-Man movie after this one.Count on it.

[spyderman2k4]

Me neither. If you know what I mean when I type "spiderman" then I don't see anything wrong with avoiding all the shift + this and that for speed reasons. What's so great about the hyphen anyway? I think it's only for copyright purposes. Superman doesn't have that crap.

And about the thread. I think this should be the last for this version of spidey and then they should redo the whole thing properly.

That's cause Superman is lame.

[Spider-Bite]

really lame

[ben_reilly_s_s]

And about the thread. I think this should be the last for this version of spidey and then they should redo the whole thing properly.

Hell Yea!!

[Cmill216]

word of mouth affects all movies, and if they screw this up as bad as the other 2 or worse, it wont make any money after 2 weeks

:D :D

[Matt]

I put I don't know, but it has nothing to do with box office and more to do with keeping the plot fresh.

[Goran]

I chose "I don't know..." 'cause I don't want the spider-man franchise to have the same fate that the superman franchise had. And... "3" is a cool figure :) Don't you think that a "Spider-Man Trilogy" would be nice?? And then maybe in 10 or 15 years, they can do another 3 movies... with totally different actors... no.. that sucks... I don't know what to think... it's really difficult... But what's for sure: I don't want a "Spider-Man 30"... that would ruin it all IMO

[Advanced Dark]

^ Just relax I think the SM30 was more of a joke and you won't likely be alive for a Spiderman 20 let alone a Spiderman 30. The point is the franchise will survive for generations and it's ridiculous to believe this franchise will last for only 3 films. It's just dumb on many levels.

[Norman Osborn]

Who cares?

Anyways;

In my opinion I hope SM-3 isn't' the last movie.

Yeah who cares??...There's a far greater concern here at the board than people misspelling Spider-man....people misspelling "your/you're"....:)

...back on topic...I don't think this should be the last Spider-man movie...but I do believe it should be the last one for Raimi....it's time for new blood!

[Morgoth]

Spider-man 4, 5, and 6 must be made!

Best of the Marvel movies, this series must go on. So much more to be done. I don't mind Venom being in 3 but I think he should have been in 4, maybe he'll lead into 4 though.:)

Still need the Lizard. 4 for sure for him, I think. Conners has been seen enough, maybe Sam's teasing with him, making fans wait and then in part four the Lizard strikes!:) :spidey:

[Spawn187]

We need atleast 3 more after this one. (in yoda voice) Always 2 trilogy's in a franchise a master and a apprentice.

[Nebins]

I'm on the fence with this issue. I love Spider-man and will always go to see the movies but I think if they make anymore after the 3rd it will start to go sour. After this one everyone who put these 3 together will leave and it just wouldn't be the same. But If they make it I will come.

[Advanced Dark]

There's really no point here because Spider-Man is a franchise that will be around well beyond all of our years in some form another. Wait till the 3d films get hi-tech and passable for real feature films. Imagine Spider-Man in real 3d. The movies we're seeing now will seem prehistoric in 20 years and there's always a new generation of kids growing up who will say Tobey who? Who's Hugh Jackman? Christian Bale...never heard of him. That's just the facts. The world doesn't revolve around our generation so don't think we're so special that things are only new to us and nobody else.

[Spider-Bite]

If they can kill the X-Franchise with 3 they can and should do the same to Spider-Man. At least the X-Men films are watchable!

None of these have any bearing on the other. If Wolverine jumps off a cliff to his death, does that mean Spider-Man has to as well?

[olsen103]

Part 4 seems to be a good number to wrap up THIS spiderman franchise..But that doesnt mean they should stop forever..

[Reikowolf]

So long as they keep grossing high numbers... Spider-Man will go on... and even if it doesn't.. it will be re-vamped 10 years later anyway. It's just good business, squeeze it until there's nothing left.. then after it's been gone a while, squeeze it some more.

[tw9876z]

i always wanted venom to be the last villian when spidey films were at the top of their game. so yes, i like when things go out on top and not be draged down, but sadly we know what will happen

[James"007"Bond]

All I want is a recast.

[Spider-Bite]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/gh...ws.php?id=3751

I doubt they would pay 35 million if they weren't given some kind of assurance that there was actually going to be a part 4.

[The Hurricane]

Will there be another spider-man? Im sure of it
Do I want there to be more? Maybe another 2, they have got to use other villains such as lizard vulture and kraven and possibly electro/shocker

[Advanced Dark]

None of these have any bearing on the other. If Wolverine jumps off a cliff to his death, does that mean Spider-Man has to as well?


And they're not killing the X franchise off after 3 films. Why some people (not you) can't get it through their head that it's just a publicity stunt at the very best. The X-Men films will continue after part 3. It's Foxes #1 money making franchise of ALL TIME. For Star Wars Fox only got paid a flat fee and shared NONE of the profits and George Lucas had control. Fox wanted to make more Star Wars films but had no rights. They own the film rights as of now for X-Men so they won't give them back to Marvel because a few fans only want 3. LOL

[Kirby&Ditko]

Aren't they doing 3 & 4 back to back? I say keep the coming! If you can have 20+ Bond movies, then why not lots of Spidey? Once Venom [yawn] is out of the way, lets get some real villains like the Lizard, Kraven, Electro, etc.

[I_Hate_U_All]

gwen stacy's in this. that means this is the origin movie and the last two were nothing but a bad dream.

[Advanced Dark]

Aren't they doing 3 & 4 back to back? I say keep the coming! If you can have 20+ Bond movies, then why not lots of Spidey? Once Venom [yawn] is out of the way, lets get some real villains like the Lizard, Kraven, Electro, etc.

They're not doing 3 & 4 back to back. Otherwise Marvel would be receiving a massive upfront chunk of money from Hasbro & Sony and it would be reported in earnings. It would be neccessary disclosure. Oh and Avi already said they're not doing that.

[Spider-Grrl1516]

Happy Easter everyone!!! :D

[The Villain]

I thought Sony wanted at least six Spiderman films?

Maybe I'm dreaming but I'm sure I saw a newspaper clipping saying this when Sam Raimi was at Spiderman 2 release.

No pick against Venom but the sooner we see him the better then as someone else said move onto other classic baddies :up: like Lizard, Mysterio and Scorpion.

If there is to be six then these three need to be included maybe even Chameleon. Love to see Chameleon sometime.

:eek:

[Advanced Dark]

It's stupid to put a number on how many sequels they make. Maybe after part 3 they'll make a few sequels and then maybe do some stories that take place before some of these films...or further into the future. There are literally a hundred stories to tell and more are being written. So nobody should bother putting a number on the film. Look at Batman. New cast, new director, we're gonna see a different incarnation of the Joker and nobody is complaining. Pretty much everyone loves the new Batman. We love this Spiderman, and this X-Men representation but who's to say the next group of films won't be twice as good.

[Spencer9]

No they should make more, Venom should be beat at the end of this and Harry die. Peter would lose his best friend, and in 4 have Venom come back and Carnage get born. Spiderman would have to find a way to team up with Venom to beat him. It would be very cool if the next 2 movies went like that. And then I don't know what they would do after that

[mjbull23]

I think they should make at least a couple of more, maybe up until Spiderman 5. I am a huge Lizard fan, and Id love to see Spidey square off against Connors. A couple of more villains I'd love to see them put up on the big screen are Scorpion and Mysterio.

[Spencer9]

I want for 3,4,5,6

Venom
Harry Goblin
Lizard
Scoprion
Mysterio
Kraven

[Princess Jade]

So many villans..so many story lines..they just have to get it all out there and make them M15+..

[Pagrebo]

Will they make more? Of course. As long as there's money to be made, Sony will make them.

Should they be made? So long as the integrity of the franchise is maintained or improved upon. If they don't have the story and the talent to keep growing the franchise, then give it a rest.

Problem is, the "will they" question is top priority, regardless of the answer of the "should they". Let's hope that those controlling the films after getting the green light have both the passion for Spiderman and the talent to continue bringing these movies to light in an entertaining and successful way.

[DroolingforGwen]

I didn't get any replies so I post again... does anyone except me think that six movies is just pushing the envelope... as Spidey junkies ofcoarse we want to see villains like carnage, chameleon, Lizard, Mysterio, etc... but will those characters appeal to general audiences? We know it's highly unlikely both Raimi and Tobey and Kirsten will be back for more (I'd be suprised if two of them stayed), and that's when things start to go sour quickly... I am not stupid enough to believe that actors and directors can not be replaced... but there is the risk of a serious drop off... I think four movies tops is enough WITH THE CORE CAST... if they want to make six total... I just hope they will take atleast a five/six year layoff... find the right people and the right cast... and begin another trilogy like they might do with X-men... what do ya'll think???

[Spencer9]

Finish this trilogy. Kill Harry, Kill Venom, kill Sandman, show symbiote slip off as a showing Carnage can show up. Recast for 4-6 and continue the story with Lizard

[sag002]

One movie for every hero, villain, side character in spidey's life. (I smell Spider-Man 89!)

[Spencer9]

lol i doubt

[Dcknight]

sam raimi said in a interview that if he direct spidey 3 and has always the same energy and exciting on doing the movie he will be back for number 4 but only if tobey come back or something like that!

[Advanced Dark]

^ I don't recall him saying only if Tobey came back. Are you sure?

[Advanced Dark]

Guys just when you think they're out of ideas it'll be time to recast and restart the franchise again. Batman did it, Superman did it, Bond did it, Jack Ryan films did it, and other franchises will do it. Again don't bother putting a number on the number of films YOU want to see because it not about how many sequels in numeric form. The Earth won't explode when you're tired of X-Men or Spider-Man. A fresh new generation will get to see a different actor play Spiderman before ever seeing Tobey's version. This is only the first few years of real comics to film adaptatios. This is the new golden age of comic book films and when you look at what they'll be showing us in 20 years you'll be laughing at attempting to put #'s on how many films of a franchise their should be. Now I would understand how many should Tobey do or Raimi but not the franchise. Spiderman is forever and is bigger than any actor or director. Sam Raimi will come and go, James Cameron will come and go, Tobey and Hugh Jackman will come and go. They'll be always remembered but others will fill in just fine.