View Full Version : Superman 615 is Hilarious
drastic_quench
04-12-2006, 02:04 PM
Wow. What an issue. Pranksters "running refridgerators" and the crosswalk men; The Flea Circus, and Toyman's Operation (TM) table were all fantastic. I really like how some silver age moments have been brought back, de-goofified, and made dangerous and fun. I'm liking this just as much as the Batman OYL.
Lackey
04-12-2006, 03:39 PM
same here :up:
kinda disappointed Clark didn't take the ring...it'll be interesting to see what brings him back in the game. Also, can't wait to see what Lex is up to.
roach
04-12-2006, 05:00 PM
I am loving this book
rigel7soldiers
04-12-2006, 05:21 PM
Oh. I get it. Stands for one year late...
God, that already happened?
GoldenAgeHero
04-12-2006, 05:26 PM
superman 615?
TheCorpulent1
04-12-2006, 05:34 PM
Yeah, Superman #615 actually doesn't exist. Technically this issue would've been it:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/83756635410.192.GIF
But it was under the '86 series' numbering, making it Superman (vol. II) #192.
Anyway, regarding Superman #651, I'm curious about where Hal gets the authority to hand rings out willy-nilly from. I doubt the Guardians would consent to it, given that they've already got 3 full-time members of the Corps from Earth and another Earthling who's off being the next step in Lantern evolution or whatever. The Corps' gonna develop a reputation for being Earth-crazy! :eek:
roach
04-12-2006, 05:45 PM
well he is Hal Jordan...and you couldnt pick a better Lantern than Superman
rigel7soldiers
04-12-2006, 05:48 PM
Except for that one who was from Daxam. Daxam beats Krypton every time, since it's not dead.
TheCorpulent1
04-12-2006, 05:49 PM
well he is Hal Jordan...and you couldnt pick a better Lantern than Superman
As I understood it, Hal's been reassigned to Sector 2814 as if nothing's changed. He's basically just another beat cop. I shudder to think what the law enforcement agencies of the world would look like if every cop on the street could deputize his buddies on a whim. :o
Lackey
04-12-2006, 05:52 PM
Hal's a rebel, though. He does what he wants ;)
(also, he has nerves of steel)
roach
04-12-2006, 05:56 PM
As I understood it, Hal's been reassigned to Sector 2814 as if nothing's changed. He's basically just another beat cop. I shudder to think what the law enforcement agencies of the world would look like if every cop on the street could deputize his buddies on a whim. :o
In the Wild West days a sheriff could deputize anyone and make them a part of the law.
TheCorpulent1
04-12-2006, 06:20 PM
In the Wild West days a man could become the new sheriff of a town by killing the old one, too. You know what that'd get you these days? Lots of jail time and probably a death sentence in any city that still supports it.
CConn
04-12-2006, 06:28 PM
As I understood it, Hal's been reassigned to Sector 2814 as if nothing's changed. He's basically just another beat cop. I shudder to think what the law enforcement agencies of the world would look like if every cop on the street could deputize his buddies on a whim. :oSuperman just isn't any Joe Schmo here. He may not have his powers, but still with his mind, knowledge, and experience, I would think he'd be quite an excellent prospect for the still-rebuilding Corp.
Obviously though, there's still too many Lanterns on Earth. :o
Hal's a rebel, though. He does what he wants ;)
(also, he has nerves of steel)
He's ice cold. Not only is he a superhero, he's a test pilot.
Lackey
04-12-2006, 10:12 PM
He's ice cold. Not only is he a superhero, he's a test pilot.
Haha, wsa wondering if someone else would get that :D
TheCorpulent1
04-12-2006, 10:16 PM
Was it a Top Gun reference? I've never actually seen that movie.
Superman just isn't any Joe Schmo here. He may not have his powers, but still with his mind, knowledge, and experience, I would think he'd be quite an excellent prospect for the still-rebuilding Corp.
Obviously though, there's still too many Lanterns on Earth. :o
One would think the Guardians or the ring itself would've chosen Clark if he were so perfect for the role of GL. I'm sure he'd make a fine GL, but the fact remains that it's kind of above Hal's pay grade at the moment to be throwing rings around like candy. He's overstepping his authority, just like he did every five minutes before he went crazy.
Not Jake
04-12-2006, 10:30 PM
Superman would make a good GL? Okay, I guess he could will green laser blasts, but I don't see him doing much else than that. No imagination:o
TheCorpulent1
04-12-2006, 11:09 PM
He convinced himself that his costume looked good. That's gotta count for something. :p
XFanTim
04-12-2006, 11:12 PM
Pre-crisis Superman probably had super-imagination.
No super-humor, though.
drastic_quench
04-12-2006, 11:18 PM
Actually, there's a pre-crisis GL story where Tomar Re is supposed to stall Krypton's explosion until Kal is old enough to be recruited into the corp and become the ultimate GL.
Of course Tomar fails at stalling the explosion, but the guardians see what has become of Kal and deem it a success.
Haha, wsa wondering if someone else would get that
i have my moments
Was it a Top Gun reference? I've never actually seen that movie.
it was sort of a running joke during one of newsarama's "crisis recovery" features.
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=65992
Miss Webb
04-14-2006, 06:19 AM
Hal is L-o-o-s-e B-o-o-t-y.
Anything else is incidental.
GyLocke
04-14-2006, 06:28 AM
Also it showes how hard it is to fight a green lantern:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/GyLocke/hal.jpg
GyLocke
04-14-2006, 06:28 AM
Double post
Joker
04-14-2006, 07:35 AM
the only reason that the itching powder hurts him is because it's yellow :o
TheCorpulent1
04-14-2006, 11:10 AM
He atomized all of it two panels later. But it was pretty funny that itching powder even slowed Hal down.
GyLocke
04-14-2006, 01:20 PM
The words are really funny.
"AAAARRRGHGHHH! Itching Powder!"
Like it's the more dangerous thing on the planet or something.
TheCorpulent1
04-14-2006, 02:45 PM
I would think the itching powder would be mostly ineffective on Hal, given that he's covered in skintight fabric created by the ring all over except for his face. I guess it was super-special itching powder that could penetrate willpower energy clothing.
roach
04-14-2006, 03:49 PM
I liked the Operation table they had Metallo on
TheCorpulent1
04-14-2006, 03:52 PM
Yeah. This new Toyman has potential. :)
LibrarianThorne
04-14-2006, 04:43 PM
Yeah. This new Toyman has potential. :)
The new Toyman is freakin' creepy.
The Question
04-14-2006, 04:57 PM
I have two questions:
1) Since when is the Toyman a robot with a wind up key in his back?
2) Lex is walking into a particularly large vault stacked to the brim with uncovered kryptonite. WHy isn't he wearing a bio hazard suit?
Lackey
04-14-2006, 05:21 PM
I have two questions:
1) Since when is the Toyman a robot with a wind up key in his back?
2) Lex is walking into a particularly large vault stacked to the brim with uncovered kryptonite. WHy isn't he wearing a bio hazard suit?
because a bio hazard suit would do nothing to protect him ;)
you mean a radiation suit
and maybe he's immune to the effects since injecting himself in Superman/Batman? or they didn't think of it...who knows :confused:
Spike_x1
04-14-2006, 05:53 PM
I still need to get into town to pick this up. Anyone have any scans?
Spike_x1
04-14-2006, 06:24 PM
Please?
TheCorpulent1
04-14-2006, 06:51 PM
It took years and years of constantly wearing his Kryptonite ring for Lex to get sick from it. My guess is that the room the Kryptonite is in is lead-shielded and he doesn't really care about exposing himself to it in small doses. I doubt he'll get cancer again from walking in and out of the room unprotected a few times.
The Question
04-14-2006, 07:16 PM
The thing is, Lex's kryptonite ring was tiny. The "krypto-vault" is stocked with several hundred punds of the stuff.
yenaled
04-14-2006, 07:28 PM
Toyman's new look is new from this arc, influenced by the JLU version.
The Question
04-14-2006, 07:31 PM
We noticed. Although, it looks like he's not Winslow Schlott, but some kind of robot built by Luthor. If that's the case, it seems odd. Luthor's never shown that kind of flair or theatricality with the gadgets he uses. He's always been about practicality.
Lackey
04-14-2006, 08:09 PM
why would you think he's built by Luthor? nothing has given that impression
The Question
04-14-2006, 08:14 PM
I just assumed. He's always calling Luthor "boss", so I'd think he's an invention of Lex's.
TheCorpulent1
04-14-2006, 08:23 PM
I doubt Luthor built the new Toyman. It doesn't fit with Lex's character at all, and the new Toyman seems to annoy him more than anything else. It seems much more likely based on what I've seen that the new Toyman is a partner or consultant that Lex needed to help with his current plans.
Spike_x1
04-14-2006, 08:33 PM
It took years and years of constantly wearing his Kryptonite ring for Lex to get sick from it. My guess is that the room the Kryptonite is in is lead-shielded and he doesn't really care about exposing himself to it in small doses. I doubt he'll get cancer again from walking in and out of the room unprotected a few times.It only took 18 issues of wearing the ring before Lex had his hand lopped off. I don't think that constitutes "years and years," Corp. ;)
The Question
04-14-2006, 08:46 PM
I doubt Luthor built the new Toyman. It doesn't fit with Lex's character at all, and the new Toyman seems to annoy him more than anything else. It seems much more likely based on what I've seen that the new Toyman is a partner or consultant that Lex needed to help with his current plans.
I guess. But still, he's obviously not Schlott (who is alot taller, alot less metalic, and ALOT crazyer). So, my question is, what happened to Schlott?
Spike_x1
04-14-2006, 08:54 PM
There's no "L" in Winslow's name, Q. Sorry, I just felt like bugging ya. :D
But yeah, where'd Winslow go? I want him to come back and kill any replacement Toymen.
Pre-crisis style. -_-
The Question
04-14-2006, 08:57 PM
Hell yeah. Schott (:mad: :D) was a much better character than this guy. Goofy and funny is fine, but creepy, seriously ****ed in the head, and vengeful makes for a much more interesting character.
hippie_hunter
04-14-2006, 09:01 PM
You'd think that after losing his original hand from the K-Ring and going crazy from injecting himself with the K-venom, he'd be sick of the suff.
The Question
04-14-2006, 09:08 PM
Yeah, I ddin't get the K-Venom. How would mixing a steroid with a liquified radioactive element make it work better? I would think it would just make you more dead.
Spike_x1
04-14-2006, 09:20 PM
Yeah, I ddin't get the K-Venom. How would mixing a steroid with a liquified radioactive element make it work better. I would think it would just make you more dead.Tell that to Smallville.
Kryptonite is the UBER COMPOUND!!:eek::eek::eek:
Why is nobody capitalizing on that stuff?! :confused:
:rolleyes: at Smallville.
The Question
04-14-2006, 09:24 PM
Oh. I forgot. It's DC"s new mandate to do two things:
1) Undo the post crisis revamps, thus making things "the silver age but not sucky"
2) Bring aspects of Smallville into continuity.
Storywise, they're kicking ass and taking names. As to what the stories are acomplishing, that's what worries me.
Spike_x1
04-14-2006, 09:29 PM
I liked the Operation table they had Metallo onI still haven't read the ish yet, so can someone fill me in on what Metallo was doing here? Was he restored into a robot body?
Spoil me, dammit!!
please. :(
Lackey
04-14-2006, 09:29 PM
Kenny Braverman, anyone?
Kryptonite as the uber compound has nothing to do with Smallville.
Lackey
04-14-2006, 09:30 PM
I still haven't read the ish yet, so can someone fill me in on what Metallo was doing here? Was he restored into a robot body?
Spoil me, dammit!!
please. :(
he was restored into a clone body... but with the kryptonite heart still.
Lex Luthor paralyzed him and then took his heart.
Spike_x1
04-14-2006, 09:34 PM
Kenny Braverman, anyone?
Kryptonite as the uber compound has nothing to do with Smallville.Please note the fact that Conduit and everything associated with him sucked and has never been mentioned since because the entire premise of his powers were flawed to begin with.
Smallville is responsible for bringing that once forgotten suckiness back to the surface after years of being buried.
The Question
04-14-2006, 09:34 PM
he was restored into a clone body... but with the kryptonite heart still.
Lex Luthor paralyzed him and then took his heart.
He still had a roboting frame, but he had replaced most of his body with organics.
Spike_x1
04-14-2006, 09:39 PM
Lex Luthor paralyzed him and then took his heart.Well, maybe Corben'll finally get motivated to go back into action to get revenge with some crazy robotic smashing, or something along those lines.
I can dream.
The Question
04-14-2006, 10:02 PM
It would be cool. I always saw Corben as someone who, due mostly to their cultured and intelectual natures, would get along with Lex rather well, but still wouldn't hesitate to get some revenge if Lex wronged him. At least, that was before they started writing him with The Parasite's presonality again.
Lackey
04-15-2006, 07:31 AM
Please note the fact that Conduit and everything associated with him sucked and has never been mentioned since because the entire premise of his powers were flawed to begin with.
Smallville is responsible for bringing that once forgotten suckiness back to the surface after years of being buried.
it's not as if that was the only instance
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1563899493.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
also before Smallville
Spike_x1
04-15-2006, 08:36 AM
In that book, as far as I know, Superman was infected with a nanovirus laced with kryptonite (which also killed the Parasite in the previous book, I might add). That doesn't seem to be anything new for kryptonite, just a new method of using it to poison Superman.
TheCorpulent1
04-15-2006, 09:28 AM
Yeah, I would imagine if Superman comes into contact with Kryptonite in any way, it'd hurt him. That's what it was supposed to do in the first place.
Lackey
04-15-2006, 03:35 PM
In that book, as far as I know, Superman was infected with a nanovirus laced with kryptonite (which also killed the Parasite in the previous book, I might add). That doesn't seem to be anything new for kryptonite, just a new method of using it to poison Superman.
it created a new villain out of kryptonite "tumor" that was in him
Spike_x1
04-15-2006, 07:01 PM
Smallville episodes were already being written by the time that tpb came out, but your point does stand.
I will, however, note that most reviews I could find for that book are either negative or stradling the fence, seemingly reading it only because it's Superman.
The general population of Superman fans don't seem to like the (very seldom seen) kryptonite-themed villains, and that's why the 90's had some of the best written Superman stories when looking back at the kinds of threats he went up against. He rarely even encountered kryptonite, and the writers were having a blast not having to rely on such a stereotypical (and bland) premise for a threat.
The Question
04-15-2006, 07:04 PM
Exactly. Riot is still probably one of my favorite Superman villains. First off, he's crazy as hell, and that makes a fun read. And second, it's his threat level. He, nor any of his copies, are string enough to hurt Superman on their own. But, there are just so damn many of them that they overpower him. That's cool, and makes for some great visuals.
TheCorpulent1
04-15-2006, 07:20 PM
The general population of Superman fans don't seem to like the (very seldom seen) kryptonite-themed villains,
Yeah, that'd be me. I can't stand how Kryptonite is used to just randomly empower people with anything. Smallville's Kryptonite freaks-of-the-week are bad enough in Smallville. I don't need them invading the comics as well.
Spike_x1
04-15-2006, 07:30 PM
Yeah. The only k-themed villain that I ever want to see would be Metallo, but don't mistake that as a requirement (in my mind) for Corben to be a threat. With his dealings with Neron and Brainiac 13 over the years, Corben would basically be a technological God if he were ever to be written with his full personality and powers in place.
The Question
04-15-2006, 07:36 PM
Too bad they decided to make him "Parasite two: electric boogaloo". :(
TheCorpulent1
04-15-2006, 07:36 PM
The new Kryptonite Man seems interesting. Outside of him and Metallo, though, I think Kryptonite should be limited to just rocks that other people use to hurt Supes.
Spike_x1
04-15-2006, 07:53 PM
Hey Corp, you gonna come back to the DC RPG anytime soon? We miss you. :(
TheCorpulent1
04-15-2006, 07:56 PM
I'll try to swing a post tonight. I know I won't have that much time to post for a while, so I didn't want to have Wally pop up in the fight and then stand around doing nothing.
Lackey
04-15-2006, 08:01 PM
well, I'm glad Johns and Busiek are making it more than "just a rock to hurt Superman"
now with more Sunstone :)
As a long time Superman fan, I'm pretty happy with the story and can't wait to see where they go from here.
Now if we could just get Terry Dodson off covers :o
TheCorpulent1
04-15-2006, 08:15 PM
I have no problem with the story so far. I just don't like the idea of Kryptonite somehow creating every power under the sun randomly in people. It's becoming like getting your hands on Kryptonite is equivalent to winning the beneficial gene mutation lottery.
The Question
04-15-2006, 08:22 PM
Yeah. I mean, whatever happened to Kryptonite giving you cancer? Anyone remember that? Cancer? I miss the cancer.
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