Bought (and Thought!!) for 4/12/06

[iloveclones]

Never started one of these, so I thought I’d give it a whirl:

I read through a few of mine, but the only one I want to comment on is Annhilation: Super Skrull.

I wasn’t looking forward to this series that much, and maybe that has something to do with it, but I’ve really liked it so far. I like, in this one, how they portray SS as the tired, old soldier. The sidekick and Reed at the end may have been pushing it a little bit with the “cutesy”, but overall I liked it.

Oh, and Exiles rocked once again.

[GNR]

Ms Marvel #2
Overall,a great step up from the last issue.This is primarily an all out action issue with Carol taking on the Brood.It turns out the Brrod are on the run from an alien called Cru.The Brood have led him there so he could attempt to channel energy from the Cavorite Crystals.But doing this would blow up half of the earth.Carol races to the military base but arrives,from what it appears to be,too late.

I bought #1 on a whim last month and I'm really surprised how cool this book is.#1 was mostly setup and talking heads.Which was good,but I wanted some action in this issue and that's exactly what I got.

Trim your pull list of crap and add this badboy for some old school slam bang theatrics.

Art-4.5/5
Story/4/5
Overall- a solid 8.5/10


Still have to read DMZ.

[iloveclones]

I may buy Ms Marvel on ebay or in trades if it comes out. I keep looking out if people are liking it...

[GNR]

I may buy Ms Marvel on ebay or in trades if it comes out. I keep looking out if people are liking it...

It was hard to tell from #1,but this issue did it for me.Great characterization with Carol outnumbered taking on alien threats.This book isn't trying to be something it's not,it's exactly what it should be.

[PWN3R]

Yeah only got one book today. :(


Ms. Marvel # 2

Its a setup issue, major action. So far I am really loving the series, its just plain comic fun. The brood are back in this issue, yay for Marvel's version of Alien. I always liked them, and if you want Brood, this issue gots your brood.

Great read, can't wait for the next.

[Roughneck]

Son Of M #5 - Great book. I love where this seems to be going and I hope it launches Pietro back into the Marvel Spotloight. Hopefully with his own ongoing. And Martinez's art is really growing on me. He's in my top 5 artists now. Great detail and his own style. BooYAH!

Ms Marvel #2 - Good. Not As great as #1 but it was good. Great solid art and a lot of Brood kicking action. I'll keep going with it, but this was a real let down complared to the other issue.

New X-Men #25 - Whoot. Another great issue. This is climbing the way up to my favorite books. And Remember what I said earlier about Martinez? Yeah screw him. Go Mark Brooks. no Don't screw Martinez but Brooks does rule. I can't wait for him to hit the core Marvel Books. Oh and uh Medina too seeing as he drew this one. But they both rock. And while I am talking about underused Marvel Talent I want Yost and Kyle on X-men. I mean we get Chris "Taped out" Claremont and Chris "What the ever loving mother **** is he doing as a professional artist" Bachalo on X-men and Kyle, Yost, Brooks and Medina down on New X-men. I must say that my current favorite X-book is New X-men. It has the art the writing the charachers and the stories. And The real X-men have ****. oh and Wallflower got her ****ing head blown off It's great to see **** like that that isn't promod all to hell. Keep it up you guys on the New X-men book. SUHWEEEEEEETA!

Exiles #79 - Good book, Decent art.....but I am actually looking forward to Claremont taking over this title. I still won't drop it but I hopeit gets better before it gets cancelled. its a wonderful concept.

Green Arrow #61 - I love this one year later stuff. Granted that GA is pretty much the only DC book I really read, but this one is doing it well. Come back to Marvel Winnick. We miss you. And so do the Exiles.:(

Ultimate Spiderman #93 - Wadey? And what's with Deadpool actually being Xavier? All in all there were too many words. (I know I sound lame) But the pictures ned to be there too. And I think Bagley is finally starting to slip.

Uncanny X-men #472 - Typical Claremont crap as of late. But Bachalo.........looks to have improved a little bit.

Cable and Deadpool - Flipped through it. Didn't seem interested but I am lookingforward to the next ish. Was that Thin Man there?

Ultimate Extintion #4 - Meh, this mini is killing me. Nighmare kinda sucked. The second one was better but not great.....This last one is dragging and sucking.............And draging...............And not actionful..............an dragging...............and sucking............then it draggs a little.............and sucks and drags.



I'll be back.

[Doc Destruction]

New X-men was pretty rough. Those kids are taking a serious beating. Plus, the dramatic return of NIMROD! YES!!!

Ms. Marvel was really good stuff. A lot of ass-kicking action crammed into one book.

T-Bolts is getting really interesting. Loved the last line by Songbird. I miss Speed Demon, though. Love the new Blizzard costume. I didn't like the scene with Kyle though...they really treated him like a *****.

Exiles - Damn I love Princess Power. Imagine Wonder Woman with the attitude of a man. Awesome twist ending that should be pretty grim for the Exiles crew next issue.

Battle for Bludhaven - Nice to see the ole' Force of July (now known as Freedom's Ring). Not that it matters much, as most of them get destroyed by a very creepy assortment of radioactive villains from the Society. Good book...looking forward to following this storyline.

Cable/DP - eh...the Apocalypse story is getting old in a hurry. I look forward to the next arc.

more as I remember what the hell I read during lunch lol

[Doc Destruction]

OH - Uncanny X-Men was great this week. Psylocke finds out how she got back to the living. Makes sense when your brother is a reality shifting nutjob. And holy hell, UATU!

[Marcdachamp]

Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman- PICK OF THE WEEK! PAD's doing a great job on this series. It's a great complement to Amazing Spiderman, and I love how they fit together. We see some more foreshadowing of the events in Civil War, Spidey using his Stingers (which are kind of growing on me) and May and Jarvis' first date. Ending was kind of spoiled by someone's tirade over in the Spidey forum, but still a bit surprising. I really can't believe anyone thinks that this will last more than a couple issues, and they should be interesting, too. 9/10

Son of M- Is that cover awesome, or what? As the conclusion draws near, I get more and more excited. This mini is kicking all kinds of ass. I really have no idea how it's going to conclude. 9/10

New X-Men- Woah. Pretty big ending. Medina's no Brooks, but apparently he drew the last issue and I didn't notice. Huh. The book's pacing is really fast. Just a whole lot happens. Pretty cool. 8/10

Transformers- Finally get some bigger battle stuff, and the first appearence of a classic foe. Picked up Guidi's TV show homage cover. Pretty slick, I must say. 8/10

Cable and Deadpool- A little confusing, but I got the gist. As usual, Wade steals the spotlight. Apocalypse looked pretty freaky. I liked it. 7/10

Bought but didn't read: Ultimate Spiderman- Waiting until I get ahold of the previous issue.

Flipped through but couldn't justify buying: Thunderbolts- Predictable as ever, and the newer members continue to depart. Lame.

[amazingfantasy15]

I've only read the two Ultimate books so far:

Ultimate Spidey: Pretty good, although I'm not a fan of Ultimate Deadpool because he's too different, but the last page reveal might explain why he acts so differently. Pretty much an all out action issue Spidey and the X-Men vs. Deadpool and the Reavers live on TV. I fear this arc is really gonna damage the budding relationship between Kitty and Spidey, Spidey puts his foot in his mouth exclaiming he's not a mutant in front of Kitty to try and get the Reavers to stop attacking him, plus this relationship between the two is now being broadcast on television, so it'll be tough for Peter to have a relationship with Kitty in his civies.

Ultimate Extinction:
Dear Marvel writers,
Please beg the DC writers to teach a workshop on how to write a big event comic because you suck at it.
Nothing new really revealed, the wheels are spinning toward a conclusion that I can't see actually being resolved we have Reed building a machine to kill Gah Lak Tus, Sue doesn't like it though, meanwhile Jean and Xavier are trying to build a machine to just stop Gah Lak Tus, Silver Surfers are being used to thin the herd and there are many Moondragons in the world who apparently won't be killed by Gah Lak Tus because of inbreeding. This has gone from interesting to really boring quickly.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

My shop decided to go under renovation this week, so I dunno when or if I'm gettin' my comics. Probably gonna hafta buy th' balance online. Anybody wanna be a pal an' point me towards a couple of those sites that have th' ultra low discounts that were mentioned before?

[JesusOfNazarath]

i got:

superman: this comic sucks superman's so boring. i don't know why i bought it. the drawin together tv show version of hims better.lol

ult spidey: this was kinda lame. i'm still on the fence on if i like ult dp or not.

[marcofthebeast]

I thought the Superman #651 was great. It's a good balance of serious and totally ridiculous. I don't see how this issue was boring at all.

[moffball]

Ultimate Spider-Man #93 (http://www.the9to5.org/matt/?p=211) (and #92)

Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #7 (http://www.the9to5.org/matt/?p=213)

Ultimate Extinction #4 (http://www.the9to5.org/matt/?p=214)

Really liked everything I read this week :)

[Kotagg]

New X-Men: Yeah, this is my favorite X-Book at the moment, for sure. The pace is great, the characters are robust, and the storyline itself rocks. Nice return of Nimrod. And WOW did she really get her head blown off or what? Jay Guthrie better stay alive, I like that guy. :D

Son of M - Awesome book. I like the way it's written, although the art is odd. The artist has trouble with drawing full bodies, I think. I like how Magneto is a *****-ass pansy now.

Uncanny - Good book, very interesting. Braddock is always entertaining and good for a laugh. :D I really liked the interaction, and the author was good at foreshadowing a big deal without being too ominous about it.

Exiles - Another good issue, but I think something is lacking. I think it may be that these new people (Power Princess, Spidey) don't genuinely feel permanent. It's like you know they will be gone in four issues. That in and of itself detracts from any semblance of verisimilitude in continuity.

198 - An okay read. Something short and sweet in between truly good books. A lot of the art was mediocre, and had me wincing a bit. Absalom rocks though. :D

[Assassin]

heh 1st bought thought thread that i come into on a wednesday and i havent read anything..:(

I read toyfare..the dc directs are looking great for 07

[Mister J]

Ms. Marvel #2- As others have already said, this is a pretty good read. I was really looking forward to this mini as I've interested in the character for awhile. #2 was as good as the first issue, but there was plenty of action. You get alot of inner monologue from Carol as she goes off in her attempt to be a better hero. Typical cliffhanger ending. I'm hoping #3 can capitalize on the potential that's been laid and give Carol an opportunity to show her power and resolve.

Ultimate Spider-Man #93 - This isn't 616 Deadpool, but it's kinda cool. He's more calculating and seems cerebral. I enjoyed the stylistic choices made by the issue. The on-air broadcast and running commentary offered appealed to me. There were a few glimpses of Peter and Kitty's still-budding relationship that fit well The action sequences were decent and escalated near the end of the issue. There's a surprising (at least to me) cliffhanger that's has me interested in seeing the explanation and progression of the story. I'm glad I started reading this arc.

Uncanny X-Men #472 - This was the book I liked the least this week. It wasn't atrocious, but I just got back into X-Men. Some of the established history had me at a loss. I was still able to follow, but the story didn't resonate with me as well as it would have with a more familiar reader. On the bright side, I love Psylocke, so any attention she gets is :up: with me. There's also a brief story with Storm (who I also love) that intrigued.

Superman #651 - Clark seems pretty well-adjusted to not having his powers. I'm not sure I like that. It's not a big deal 'cause we know he's gonna get them back at some point. They drive home how happy he and Lois are to have a 'normal' relationship. I suppose that's a good strategy to set up how their feelings on the matter will contrast when our favorite Kryptonian gets all Super again. He does try on the power ring for awhile, but there aren't any :eek: moments there. Prankster is the primary bad guy here (action-wise), but the more interesting sub-plot deals with Luthor, Toyman and Metallo. Good stuff.

Batman: Year One Hundred #3 - I'm really looking forward to reading this...and #2. Unfortunately, I can't (or won't) until that re-printing of #1 hits in a couple of weeks. :mad: :down Alot of people seem to like it though.

[XwolverineX]

i got:

superman: this comic sucks superman's so boring. i don't know why i bought it. the drawin together tv show version of hims better.lol

ult spidey: this was kinda lame. i'm still on the fence on if i like ult dp or not.


Lmao....

[GNR]

Ms. Marvel #2- As others have already said, this is a pretty good read. I was really looking forward to this mini as I've interested in the character for awhile. #2 was as good as the first issue, but there was plenty of action. You get alot of inner monologue from Carol as she goes off in her attempt to be a better hero. Typical cliffhanger ending. I'm hoping #3 can capitalize on the potential that's been laid and give Carol an opportunity to show her power and resolve.

Ultimate Spider-Man #93 - This isn't 616 Deadpool, but it's kinda cool. He's more calculating and seems cerebral. I enjoyed the stylistic choices made by the issue. The on-air broadcast and running commentary offered appealed to me. There were a few glimpses of Peter and Kitty's still-budding relationship that fit well The action sequences were decent and escalated near the end of the issue. There's a surprising (at least to me) cliffhanger that's has me interested in seeing the explanation and progression of the story. I'm glad I started reading this arc.

Uncanny X-Men #472 - This was the book I liked the least this week. It wasn't atrocious, but I just got back into X-Men. Some of the established history had me at a loss. I was still able to follow, but the story didn't resonate with me as well as it would have with a more familiar reader. On the bright side, I love Psylocke, so any attention she gets is :up: with me. There's also a brief story with Storm (who I also love) that intrigued.

Superman #651 - Clark seems pretty well-adjusted to not having his powers. I'm not sure I like that. It's not a big deal 'cause we know he's gonna get them back at some point. They drive home how happy he and Lois are to have a 'normal' relationship. I suppose that's a good strategy to set up how their feelings on the matter will contrast when our favorite Kryptonian gets all Super again. He does try on the power ring for awhile, but there aren't any :eek: moments there. Prankster is the primary bad guy here (action-wise), but the more interesting sub-plot deals with Luthor, Toyman and Metallo. Good stuff.

Batman: Year One Hundred #3 - I'm really looking forward to reading this...and #2. Unfortunately, I can't (or won't) until that re-printing of #1 hits in a couple of weeks. :mad: :down Alot of people seem to like it though.

Ms Marvel is an ongoing isn't it?

[GNR]

DMZ #6-This book feels like one crazy adventure into a new world everytime I open it up.You have no clue where it's going and who the behind the scenes players are just yet.Burchielli's art is something to brag about as well.

[tuskenjedi]

My shop decided to go under renovation this week, so I dunno when or if I'm gettin' my comics. Probably gonna hafta buy th' balance online. Anybody wanna be a pal an' point me towards a couple of those sites that have th' ultra low discounts that were mentioned before?


I get all of my stuff at www.dreamlandcomics.com

[Mister J]

Ms Marvel is an ongoing isn't it?
It is. For some reason, I had Spider-Woman on the brain when I wrote 'mini'.

[AndThePickles]

Ms. Marvel was great. Cliffhanger ending...but I myself doubt that the writers are going to have a huge chunk of the planet be destroyed. Good read, lots of action.

New X-Men: One word: AWESOME! This was one of the best issues in the series. I was so shocked when Wallflower got shot in the frickin head! I saw it coming, but still. Elixir probably wants to shoot himself right now considering the last words he said to her were cursing and telling her to go away. I wonder if he'll be able to heal her? . The Danger Room training scene was cool too. And of course, crazy ending. I can't wait to see what happens next.

I still need to read Exiles.

[Assassin]

Nightwing-Its was a reg nightwing book, its okay..nothin special, except the fact that Jason is ****ing up the nightwing name and ****ing Dick's lady..
8/10

Green Arrow-Ollie is for Gay rights...whatta hippie
8/10

[Colossal Spoons]

Uncanny X-men #472 - Typical Claremont crap as of late. But Bachalo.........looks to have improved a little bit.

DAMN, I actually liked the art. I'm speechless, never thought Bachalo could draw something I'd like. Where's Tan?

[gildea]

Ult spidey - Kinda fun, thought the style of writing and drawing was surprisingly ambitious for this book. The significance of the cliff hanger was kinda spoiled (I think) by the conversation between two of the reavers but hey ho.

Ult Extinction - Well written and drawn but still kind of underwhelming. In general i think marvel have dropped the ball on ult galactus by using 4 different artists and forgetting to push it the way it should be pushed.

Superman REALLY dislike the idea of superman actually considering himself to be clark kent. It did make for a nice image and could be argued that it makes sense given he's been kent for a year but he is not ACTUALLY clark kent. That grumble aside really enjoying this arc, its fun and light with some great artwork.

FN Spider-man Fun end to a throwaway tale. Perfectly acceptable doesn't break new ground but was entertaining and fun. Standard grumbles about the stingers apply.

[roach]

but isnt he Clark Kent????

[gildea]

Yes and no, I kind of agree with bill's speech at the end of kill bill in that clark kent is the mask and superman the person.

Its a personal opinion that the comics have long since distanced themselves from.

[Lackey]

but isnt he Clark Kent????


yeah, he was Clark Kent long before he was ever Superman.

[roach]

that's what I thought

[gildea]

ok then he's kal el :)

[DBM]

Yes and no, I kind of agree with bill's speech at the end of kill bill in that clark kent is the mask and superman the person.

Its a personal opinion that the comics have long since distanced themselves from.

Bill was talking about the old-school pre-Crisis Superman though. Back when he'd had his powers since birth practically and he knew all about his Krytonian Heritage from the start. In that case, he was Superman first and Clark second.

But our current Superman didn't start showing his powers until his teens. He was raised, during the most formative years of his life, as Clark Kent. Superman was just something he decided to do later on, it's not who he is.

[gildea]

Bill was talking about the old-school pre-Crisis Superman though. Back when he'd had his powers since birth practically and he knew all about his Krytonian Heritage from the start. In that case, he was Superman first and Clark second.

But our current Superman didn't start showing his powers until his teens. He was raised, during the most formative years of his life, as Clark Kent. Superman was just something he decided to do later on, it's not who he is.


Sorry i've not made myself clear.

I know how he is in current comics continuity I'm just saying IMO i don't really think thats right and I certainly don't think he should think of himself that way (I do think it's entirely justifiable from the context of continuity).

I am aware that todays superman is very much "clark kent is who I am, superman is what I can do!" I just don't agree with it entirely thats all.

I'm not claiming a different interpretation of current Supes just that I disagree with some aspects of it.

:)

[Dread]

My LCS, the same one as WOLVERINE25TH attends, is closed for rennovations so I had to go into Manhattan for my comics. Thankfully, it was a cheap week (I rarely spend less than $7 on comics anymore), and an all-Ultimate week, so let's get crackin'.

As always, this post is 100% proof for spoilers.

DREAD'S BOUGHT/THOUGHT FOR 4/12/06:

ULTIMATE EXTINCTION #4: If ever there was an otherwise solid, interesting and potentially dramatic story that has been marred down by decompression and an example of a writer perhaps being too clever for his own good, it may be ULTIMATE EXTINCTION. It is billed as a 5 part mini but in truth it is the final installment of an Ultimate "event" that began with 5 issues of ULTIMATE NIGHTMARE (most of them late), 4 issues of ULTIMATE SECRET (most of them late), and back-up pages of Ultimate Vision, which combined would equal maybe 1 issue (on time, because the rest of the Ultimate books were; the back ups wisely ran in USM and ULT. XM, which are usually close to schedule). So, basically, this is about issue #14 of a longer epic that lateness has allowed to drag on almost a year longer than originally intended. Add to this Ellis' insistance on dragging his heels with stories that are interesting in theory (this marred his otherwise decent run of ULTIMATE FAN FOUR), and you get a series that is hardly "brainless" and even entertaining, but could and should be far better at this point. Of course, all of this could be due to the fact that the "uber-post-realism" of the Ultimate Universe, a universe where anything that isn't based around chemicals or technology seems "too fantastic to fit in", makes a space opera a very difficult sort of story to tell. Space operas are supposed to be almost inhumanly fantastic, and Ultimate is far too cynical a universe for that kind of stuff (although it has lightened a bit on that stance in the past year or so).

And as such, Ellis insists on putting a lot of street-level action and complications into EXTINCTION, even as the threat, the coming of "Gal Ahk Tus", should be this booming, space-danger sort of thing. Maybe it is because you could NEVER have a "huge humanoid being" or whatever alien floating over manhattan and setting up machines in Ultimate, just as you can't outright say Thor is a god and have him sitting on the rainbow bridge of Asgard. Ultimate insists this is all "in the name of being relevant for the current age", and in a way it is true; Ultimate's modern "twists" on things has overall been interesting to me and produced a lot of quality work. I say if Marvel's assertion were true, LOTR wouldn't have been a bigger hit than THE MATRIX TRIOLOGY. There is still an audience for "the fantastic", and it is about time Marvel remembered that.

That all said, the issue by itself is good enough. Turns out there is an entire cult of people who "worship" Gal Ahk Tus as a sort of godly extra-terrestial (I mean, if God isn't an "alien", what is he? He's not an Earthling) and have set up a cult that is preparing for the end of the world by convincing people to paint themselves silver and commit suicide. This is not so unfounded as there have been several documented cases of mass suicides amung cults seeking alien devinity; THE SIMPSONS even had an episode about it. The "surfers" apparently are robotic vessals of Gal Ahk Tus that he sends out to planets to seemingly reduce the strain of mass genocide by "thinning the herd" a bit, and naturally they get ripped to bits by our heroes. The bald "Moondragon" lady is actually a clone, and many of her sisters emerge to sabutage SHIELD just as both Reed and Xavier & Jean find two seperate ways to kill the "un-creator". And Misty Knight naturally adheres to all of the stereotypes of black women in modern movies (much as Photon does in NEXTWAVE), y'know, being all about talking big and flexing attitude. It's still a decent take for her, though.

The problem? EXTINCTION only has one issue to go and I am sensing a finale coming that is ungodly unsatisfying. You all know the type, because Hollywood movies are good at them. As in, a big, over-the-top threat has been overhyped as being almost unbeatable for about 2/3rd's of the story, and then in the last 3rd, the heroes come up with some "magic bullet" solution (usually based on 1 part science to 1 part baloney, and mixed with 3 parts plot convience) and you get a very showy, explosive, "bang" sort of finale that all seems to have been too easy to justify the whole picture. True, the 616 story of Galactus ended a little simularly (basically they kept him distracted until he got spooked by the Ultimate Nullifer), but seems more justified as that did not take FIFTEEN ISSUES. After ULTIMATE NIGHTMARE & SECRET this story had to be a big "Star Wars" sort of thing somewhere, and with only one issue to wrap everything up, it may seem anti-climatic. On the plus side, the story, looking back, has given us a lot of the backstory on the Ultimate's heroes stumbling onto the threat, picking all the pieces and then dealing with it in their own way.

But, this sort of story really isn't the best for Ultimate anyway. Neither would, say, a "magic epic" (which was why Juggernaut gaining a "magic gem" in ULTIMATE X-MEN ANNUAL also felt "awkward"). The Ultimate Universe has made itself very good at doing one trick, and anything else usually isn't as solid. A fair warning for the rest of Marvel's line. Ellis has done well to avoid being too predictable on this story, but maybe that was the problem; being predictable can at times make a satisfying event. I mean, if Bendis had the NEW AVENGERS fight, say, a revamped MASTERS OF EVIL, it would be predictable. But wouldn't it be greatly enjoyable? Sadly, these days too many writers try their damnest to be unpredictable, which sometimes is great and sometimes it's not. But right now it is selling.

That all said, ULTIMATE FANTASTIC FOUR is set to add more space drama to the mix after Millar's run finishes, and I'll be curious as to how well they pull it off. It's certainly the title where it is most appropriate.

ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #93: USM really is a workhorse title, isn't it? In an age when most books can't stay on schedule for longer than 6 issues without getting a fill-in artist or change of the entire creative team, USM manages to be on time quite often so far, with a run from the same creative team running almost 100 issues; it is worth appreciating how rare and wonderful that is in this new age of comics. Naturally, it is part 3 of a 5 part Bendis story, which means this is the action issue. And boy, does the fur fly here as Spidey & the X-Men take on Deadpool and his Reavers on the island of Genosha (where they previously illegally interfered with when half the team rescued Longshot before all the facts were in, such as him actually being a bonafide killer). It also allows Bendis to have his "talking heads" as the action is spliced from scenes from the live televised broadcast of the action, and past recordings from "Wadey Wilson", aka Deadpool. Ultimate Deadpool isn't as goofy or 4th-wall breaking as he is in canon; in Ultimate he's strictly a typical loudmouth assassin. Anyone who watches anime has seen dozens of them. Not to say it doesn't fit for a revamped Deadpool, because it does (and was sort of where he started back in the mid 90's). Those surprised by the fact that Spider-Man actually KICKS BUTT in this issue need remember that he is NOT fighting costumed women. Seriously. Get out your back issues and see any issue where USM fights a woman in a costume; he always loses. Elektra? Silver Sable? Black Cat? Elektra again? Always loses, regardless of power levels. It was annoying back in the 40's when Wonder Woman would get schooled by anything with a penis, and it's just as inaccurate in the reverse now. Power levels matter.

We do get more footage of the budding romance between Kitty and Spider-Man, which has been strained by the event as Spidey routinely spouts that he is "not a mutant!" to ease the attacking, while having to apologize to Kitty for it. Spidey also gets to whine and cry into a camera like a woman, whilst Kitty, ironically, has the "buck up and keep your sack" speach. This will make it harder for them to have "normal" dates, though, as they've been outed as a couple. Or have they?

The issue, though, is an entertaining action romp with a genuine cliffhanger ending with Deadpool unmasked as...Charles Xavier? A real "WTF" sort of ending. However, there is a downside, and it relates to the "too clever for their own good" sort of thing. The last time Bendis wrote the X-Men in USM, he had them basically be jackarses whose naive meddling (Jean doing a "psychic prank" with Logan's mind) screwed up Peter's life because they were too heartless to bother thinking about the consequences, and then had Spidey swing off and call them "douchebags", because they were. On the one hand, Deadpool may actually BE a real shapeshifter in Ultimate (as opposed to using holograms), and this could all be a clever, crafty ploy, and if it is, that'd be cool. However, there is the downside; this has all been some EXPANSIVE "training exercise" run by Xavier, and Spidey ("whoops, sorry for the bruises and screwing with your life") got involved by accident. Its a downside because that's the more predictable solution, given how "Jump the Shark" ended, and I really hate to see Bendy spin in circles. So I'm hoping for the former, because that could be interesting to watch play out (as in, someone who can play mindgames without telepathy). Sadly, the fact that Cyclops isn't dead after being "collared" may support the latter.

Even still, though, I guess the only reason that is a downside was because of this card being played already with "Jump The Shark", and not because of this particular story, which is far superior. It has been more entertaining so far than SILVER SABLE was, with more intense action and a lot more of Spider-Man kicking some tail, which I'm not ashamed to admit liking.

[XwolverineX]

Wow, ya go to th' same store as W25? Haha, that's pretty cool. Ya guy's ever meet up an' chat?

[Dread]

Wow, ya go to th' same store as W25? Haha, that's pretty cool. Ya guy's ever meet up an' chat?
We bumped into each other once, didn't chat. I'm not very social most times, especially since when I get my comics, I am usually on the run to catch my bus to go to campus.

[Assassin]

they only hypster who goes to my shop is Ritz..he's a doushbag :p

[PWN3R]

I am the only person under 30 who goes to my shop. :(

Seriously, I am only 18, but everyone who goes there is much much older, 40's, and they all gather and talk about DC, and I cry in the corner with my Marvel books...:(

[gildea]

. On the one hand, Deadpool may actually BE a real shapeshifter in Ultimate (as opposed to using holograms), and this could all be a clever, crafty ploy, and if it is, that'd be cool.


I think it is something like that dread. Looking at the previous issues the x-men and spidey where all captured by deadpool pretending to be someone else and the reavers in this issue mention that he is the only one that can do that (it may be some sort of illusion projection??).

[Assassin]

almost every one in my shop is a marvel ****

[Dread]

I think it is something like that dread. Looking at the previous issues the x-men and spidey where all captured by deadpool pretending to be someone else and the reavers in this issue mention that he is the only one that can do that (it may be some sort of illusion projection??).
Spidey pulled his mask off, so I'm probably more willing to accept Deadpool as a shapeshifter than trying to explain it with a hologram thingie. But I agree, that would be interesting. Deadpool plays the "Xavier" card so he can sucker them or escape. Besides, in many modern takes, shape-shifting and "fast healing" go together, and why not? Both involve control over one's cells and manipulating them at a fast rate.

[gildea]

never even thought of shape shifting and fast healing being corelated but yeah that makes perfect sense as a concept of extreme cell control.

[Dread]

never even thought of shape shifting and fast healing being corelated but yeah that makes perfect sense as a concept of extreme cell control.
Of course. In MYSTIQUE's last series, she employed a little of that; for instance, moving her vital organs around to survive lethal bulletwounds. Hulkling in YOUNG AVENGERS heals quickly. It just makes sense that if you can move around all your cells to match someone else's physical appearence, and/or clothing with different textures, or even grow claws or whatnot, that you could employ a little of that for recovering from wounds.

Of course, it all depends on the level of shapeshifting, expertise, willpower, and all that good stuff. It's hardly uncommon for many characters to have simular powers, and some are simply "better" at it.

[moffball]

Hey, three issues into a four issue arc and he hasn't been unmasked, doesn't that count for something, Dread? ;)

[GNR]

I am the only person under 30 who goes to my shop. :(

Seriously, I am only 18, but everyone who goes there is much much older, 40's, and they all gather and talk about DC, and I cry in the corner with my Marvel books...:(

Haha,you poor soul.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Alright, I just ordered MOST of my comics this week from one of those sites. Screw it. Those jackasses want my business, next time they WARN people they're gonna be closed. I just gotta find a place to get Superman an' Crisis Aftermath. Only two they were sold outta.

[THANOSRULES]

Super Skrull 1 was awesome..great freakin Book.

Exiles 79 - ditto, this book just never gets tired, i just wish they'd tone down the killing of characters, becuase it hampers my attachment to people.

Moon Knight 1-Killer art, good but sparse dialogue, very excited to see more. Very excited.

[Brainiac 8]

Sorry i've not made myself clear.

I know how he is in current comics continuity I'm just saying IMO i don't really think thats right and I certainly don't think he should think of himself that way (I do think it's entirely justifiable from the context of continuity).

I am aware that todays superman is very much "clark kent is who I am, superman is what I can do!" I just don't agree with it entirely thats all.

I'm not claiming a different interpretation of current Supes just that I disagree with some aspects of it.

:)

It's they way it is even now. The only time Clark acts like himself is when he is Superman or with Lois. When he is around any other character he acts like bumbling Clark.

Superman is the real personality, and Clark is a front for those not privy to his real life.

Superman=real
Clark=disguise:up: :)

[CaptainStacy]

We bumped into each other once, didn't chat. I'm not very social most times, especially since when I get my comics, I am usually on the run to catch my bus to go to campus.

Does he talk like Wolverine in person?

[yenaled]

With that whole debate it isn't that simple there are not two distinct sides to Clark. As he acts as Superman is not who he is and when he is the bubbling Clark Kent it isn't who he is.

The only time you see Superman as himself is in private with Lois, his parents or friends. Like when he is on the watchtower without the public around.

Both the heroic and powerful Superman and the bumbling Clark Kent are masks to hide the real person.

And in the OYL Superman so far, they have written Clark Kent fantastically. That's how Superman really is, without masking anything.

[gildea]

Both the heroic and powerful Superman and the bumbling Clark Kent are masks to hide the real person.

And in the OYL Superman so far, they have written Clark Kent fantastically. That's how Superman really is, without masking anything.

I agree that OYL has been very well written but i disliked the whole "latern clark" aspect instead of "latern supes".

I'm not claiming any greater insight than anyone just my opinion :)

[Colossal Spoons]

Does he talk like Wolverine in person?

Heh, too bad the didn't chat.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

I will eat your brains.

[Brainiac 8]

I agree that OYL has been very well written but i disliked the whole "latern clark" aspect instead of "latern supes".

I'm not claiming any greater insight than anyone just my opinion :)


I'm loving that possibility of Clark being a Lantern, especially since it'll only be temporary.:)

[Colossal Spoons]

I will eat your brains.


Hahahaha, so simply and yet so funny...bub :D

[Dread]

Hey, three issues into a four issue arc and he hasn't been unmasked, doesn't that count for something, Dread? ;)
It sure does. That may actually be part of why I am enjoying the arc so much. I mean, Spidey's kept his mask, he's actually being somewhat competant in a fight scene, there's been a lot of action...who knew, right?

Ultimate Scorpion is coming next arc, though, and Bendis better not ruin him. Scorp's one of my "favorite underrated, perennially screwed up rogues who could have been great" sort of villians, like Hydro-Man, Mandarin, and Graviton.

Oh, and I just noticed something; the previous 3 issues of ULTIMATE EXTINCTION billed it as a SIX part series on the covers; issue #4 was the first one to claim it as 5 parts, and it even ended with a "too be CONCLUDED", as in 1 part left. Has the series been chopped back an issue? Or was this just an error? Because, well, I AM fearing that "magic bullet" solution, because they usually are anti-climatic, especially for a story that has dragged on for over a year (hell, ULTIMATE NIGHTMARE started in 2004 if I am not mistaken...)

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Probably was. I remember when a Hulk arc was changed from 4-6 issues. Think that one was started with th' 25 cent issue.

[XwolverineX]

I will eat your brains.


It would be awesome I ya actually talked like that in real life. :up:



But have a helluva lot of fun tryin' to pronounce " Th' " .... :D

[gildea]

I'm loving that possibility of Clark being a Lantern, especially since it'll only be temporary.:)


Oh I LOVED the idea but when he pulled on the ring I wanted a great big green S not a green clark.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Th' is easy to prononuce. It's just The said very fast with another word so the E sound isn't as pronounced.