Leaked PS3 Info?

[THE LIZARD#1]

Wow okay I went onto google and have been searching for like ten minutes on new PS3 information and I came across this game sight that seems to be very good contacts with SCEA and developers and have been talking alot to them. The PS3 price has now been official/unofficial to the public but official to Developers. Sony told developers that the PS3 is going to cost $499 and my god I am excited that its not that much higher in the 600-700 neighborhood. Enclose at the bottom is the article however names have been removed because they don't want to get into trouble. This was posted today.

This is the price article:

US$499 is the latest Playstation 3 price point being banded around the internet. Apparently several Californian based publisher-owned developers that have also been receiving their dev kits have been told that the pricetag is confirmed.
But (yes there is always a but), this “confirmation” should only be treated as speculation due to supposed inconsistencies regarding exactly what the developers have been told.
SPonG had the following to say:
“The first is that not all the developers we spoke to had heard of the price, though some were adamant that SCEA had told them the price was final. The second is differing sources within SCEA purportedly offering the information to developers, explicit details of which we cannot elaborate upon for reasons of confidentiality.“
Either way, $499 sounds about right and given what we know already and hopefully shouldn’t really surprise anyone.


Then here is what Sony is planning at E3

SPonG have been doing some digging into exactly what we can expect from Sony in terms of hands on PS3 experience at the coming E3 next month. Sadly, it would seem that we will not be getting lots of demo stations spaced throughout the event, and instead access to the console will be very restricted.
“From what we have been hearing, the PlayStation 3 will be shown in a similar way to which the PSP was debuted at E3,” one publishing source told SPOnG last week. “Attendees will be able to view the machine in a tightly-restricted environment. People thinking the floor will be awash with playable demo pods will be sore if they walk through the doors expecting to be able to sample a massive range of [PlayStation 3] software at leisure.”
FYI, the PSP launch was very frustrating for non-press attendees to E3 as you had to negotiate queues of up to five hours for a glimpe of the portable device. After listening to their sources, SPonG then went to SCE America and tried to get their side of the story, they replied as follows:
“We have always said that the PlayStation 3 will be playable at this year’s E3 and that hasn’t changed. We have a three platform showing this year and of course the PlayStation 2, which is now more popular than ever, will share space with the PSP and the PlayStation 3.”
The Sony spokesperson continued, “We are expecting big queues to see the PlayStation 3 and so will be taking great care to manage the crowds in the best way possible. All press will certainly have no problems seeing everything we are showing. This year is going to be huge for us. Not just in terms of what we’re showing, but in the major announcements we have planned.”
Sounds like people who aren’t associated with the press could be out of luck in terms of the PS3 offerings at this years E3.


I hope this was a good find. If not sorry.

[THE LIZARD#1]

Is this good or bad? I'm not really that knowledgeable when it comes to computers and stuff?

PS3Portal have written an article on the differences between the operating systems in the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3. Specifically, they discuss the amount of console power that the O/S takes up in each of the consoles. This is especially important in this generation because on the 360 you will note that the O/S is constantly running in the background and it is expected the same will occur in the PS3.

They claim that the O/S on the Xbox 360 uses 32mb of the 512mb available RAM, and also 3% of the CPU time on Core 1 and Core 2.

“Everything that one wants to do involving software on a game console, specifically while the user is playing games, comes at a cost. In the case of the Xbox 360, this cost is approximately 2% of total CPU time and 6.25% of the Xbox 360’s total available RAM. Balancing these out, one could argue that MS has removed a total of 4% of the Xbox 360’s total available system power in order to provide these features and more which were not mentioned. They also left room, CPU and RAM wise, for future features. In other words, they are not entirely using all of the CPU Time and RAM that they have reserved to date.”

They also have information on the PS3 O/S running costs, which are 32mb of the 256mb available GDDR3 memory on the RSX chip, 64mb of the 256mb available XDR memory off the Cell CPU, and 1 SPE (Synergistic Processing Elements) of the 7 available is constantly taken, with another available if needed.

“In the case of the PS3 this equates to 25% of the available cores on the CPU and 18.75% of the available RAM in the system. Balancing these out, one could argue that Sony has removed a total of 23% of the available system power in the PS3 for these features as well as others that are not mentioned here or will be added in future updates to the PS3 Operation System.”

PS3 Portal don’t claim to have the technical knowledge to properly decode their figures, and neither do we! Interesting nonetheless.

[THE LIZARD#1]

Sorry to dissapoint everyone but Crysis might not be making a PS3 appearance any time soon:(

Speaking in an interview, CEO and President of Crytek, Cevat Yerli, has revealed that the successor to Far Cry, Crysis, will not be making it to the Playstation 3 at this stage.

CVG are reporting that when questioned on the game making it to the next generation console Yerli replied, “It crossed our minds, but we’re sticking with PC. One thing about our company is that we want to focus, we don’t want to do multiple things, we want to do one thing and do it well. PC is our focus right now, we were born there and we want to showcase what we can do there, before we made any move onto consoles.”

So it would seem we need to wait until the PC version of the game is well and truely sorted before we can start to look out for Crysis on the PS3. You can check out information on Crysis on the link entited “read” below, however please be aware that it is now, officially, known to be a PC only title at this stage.

[villejo]

If they're bringing out the PS3 right after E3, they should have around a dozen PS3 demos, to give the average joe an idea, and not just the media, who don't actually buy the product.

[kytrigger]

If they're bringing out the PS3 right after E3, they should have around a dozen PS3 demos, to give the average joe an idea, and not just the media, who don't actually buy the product.

I would agree, except the average joe won't be attending E3. The people (that aren't press) that attend E3 are die-hard videogame fans. Yes they'll be dissapointed if they don't get a chance to play the PS3, but that won't turn them away from buying one. All those people will read all the articles the press write about how it played anyway.

[THE LIZARD#1]

I'm just excited that it costs 500 dollars thats not that much for the stuff your getting with it. I can't wait for this console. I wonder what games will be at E3? I know Resistance is one and that will definatly be a launch title!

[XwolverineX]

I'm just excited that it costs 500 dollars thats not that much for the stuff your getting with it. I can't wait for this console. I wonder what games will be at E3? I know Resistance is one and that will definatly be a launch title!


500 U.S so 600 for us Canadians. * Thinks for 30 minutes*



Ahh, that's more then the 360. :down

[THE LIZARD#1]

500 U.S so 600 for us Canadians. * Thinks for 30 minutes*



Ahh, that's more then the 360. :down

Well obviously its going to be alot more than the 360 because of the technology they are using. The PS3 technology is mature from what Starbreeze has been saying. They said it was very impressive and very complex technology.

[Horrorfan]

But keep in mind Team Ninja (among others, including John McCormack and The guys making Stranglehold) have said that PS3 is MUCH harder to programe for, never mind take advantage of, and Team Ninja was especially critical of it.

[TheCardPlayer]

It will not cost 500$. It will be 400$ It's the only logical price.

[WhatsHisFace]

It will not cost 500$. It will be 400$ It's the only logical price.
Shut up already.

[XwolverineX]

Shut up already.


That was mean..

[DrugDealer]

It will not cost 500$. It will be 400$ It's the only logical price.
What do you care, you'll never buy it you ****ing fake, christ :rolleyes:

[XwolverineX]

Well obviously its going to be alot more than the 360 because of the technology they are using. The PS3 technology is mature from what Starbreeze has been saying. They said it was very impressive and very complex technology.

Wait and see. The graphics will be the same.

[TheCardPlayer]

Shut up already.We'll see who's right. If its 500 I'll make an apology topic just for you. :D

[WhatsHisFace]

That was mean..
You and TheCardPlayer are a cancer to this board.

[TheCardPlayer]

You and TheCardPlayer are a cancer to this board.Since when are you supposed to run this place?

[WhatsHisFace]

Since when are you supposed to run this place?
Since over two years before your noob account was registered.

[TheCardPlayer]

...Right.

I suppose that does mean much.

[DrugDealer]

Since when are you supposed to run this place?
I run this board ***. Get off it.

[TheCardPlayer]

No I won't. You'll get banned again...then you'll come back and get banned again.

It's the way of life.

[DrugDealer]

And as I get banned, I'll introduce the new, uppity mod that keeps doing it to the cold hard facts of life - you can't. And I'll stay for a long time, until a new one is crowned, and I make that one a real mod as well. And as I do, everyone will make fun of you until you either
A) Stop being a stupid douche
or
B) Leave

Look at "I don't talk like a superhero anymore, now my stupidity is more subtle" guy over there, or Riz. Idiots won't last.

[TheCardPlayer]

Why do you act like I should take you and your little buddies seriously?

I'm not here to listen to your babbling, I'm here to talk videogames and I will and I still won't care what you think or say.

[WhatsHisFace]

Why do you act like I should take you and your little buddies seriously?
We're much, much bigger than you.

[DrugDealer]

Because "me and my little buddies" are the ones you're talking to, and us not taking you seriously and generally thinking your a pretentious ass that changes his entire personality upon being called "fanboy" for the first time pretty much ruins the entire point of you being here? I mean, understanding my complaints about you is also understanding that you're too dumb to understand this, so I won't be surprised when you write a response to this and then go on to feign interest in a sony game with all the subtlety of crapping a brick. I'm basically just answering your question so that I can see your response to it and add it to the ammo box accordingly.

[TheCardPlayer]

Wow, you guys are so cool! A message board gang of bullies.

Too bad I don't care. I hope you understand this.

[TheCardPlayer]

Oh and yes, I do not want a PS3 right now and I've always said it. I didn't want one yesterday and I still don't want one today.

Still don't stop me for looking forward to it's games. It's what will make me buy one later on.

[DrugDealer]

Yep, we're message board bullies and not a group of people that understand what you're doing, who you are, and why it makes you less of a person worth listening to or respecting. Or it's exactly the opposite of that. Which leaves you as someone's who's sad attempts at a jab and a "I don't care but I'll still respond until you call me on it, at which point I will bail out of the thread" post won't really garner much interest from us, aside from a new way to call you dumb. I can't be any more clear than this.

[TheCardPlayer]

You're attempting to look intelligent and deep on a comic book site's games forum. And it ain't working.

And furthermore, I'm not the one who is continually getting banned. So your opinion ain't worth much to me. This is just good fun for me, you are the one getting riled about about videogames topics and you're the one who feels important since he's backed by his little clan.

And you understand who I am? Wait, don't tell me I am supposed to be some banned member under a new name, because you're in the left field if you think that.

[DrugDealer]

Posts like those are why you're an idiot and don't fit in here. Yeah, I'm trying to look intelligent and deep...by doing what, exactly? Typing out the word "....hmm, wait a second, I didn't type any big or uncommon words. Oh, I bet it was the political reference I used when I said...nope, none of those either. Was it the famous quote....nope, those are absent as well. Was it that a post that could have been understood by a five year old is so complex when viewed through your eyes that your only response is to think that I was going out of my way to seem "intelligent and deep on a comic book site's games forum"? We may never know...



(the answer is yes, that's exactly what it is)

And you make a really good point that you're not the one getting banned. Because typing out dirty things on the internet is relevant to an argument about you being a dumbass because...well, I'm not really sure why you thought it was relevant, but you ARE a dumbass, so I'm sure it's so stupid that no one will actually care.

And pssst, me "understanding who you are" was meant to say "understanding that you're a dumbass", hence why it was followed by things that make indirect and yet totally unsubtle references to you being a dumbass. I however made the fatal mistake of forgetting that you were a dumbass while calling you a dumbass, heavily overestimating your intellect and it's ability to understand the simple english used in my post. My bad. But hey, look at the bright side, no one called you a "fanboy" and caused you to completly change personalities to sadly attempt to retroactively prove them wrong, failing horribly. That's always good, I guess.

[TheCardPlayer]

What the hell are you talking about man?

You're the only one here who is taking this seriously. Why would I try to prove you wrong?

I DO NOT WANT A PLAYSTATION 3, IT DOES NOT HAVE GAMES I WANT. I MAY OR MAY NOT GET A REVOLUTION. IT DEPENDS HOW IT COSTS.

See. I always said that and I never changed. It's not because I don't want a PS3 that I can't say it's games look cool. It's just that it doesn't have as many as I want as the 360.

It seems that I should say that all the games sucks if I don't want a console.

[DrugDealer]

You're right, I'm taking this more seriously than all other parties involved by...posting, something that all other parties involved are doing right now. It's great, you're the rare kind of dumb that's been totally isolated from everyone's opinion of him and thus has no idea how dumb he really is, or how hilariously poor his logic is. You were a huge fanboy. You got into it with zenien in a thread where she said this. You did a full 180 IMMEDIATLY. Who are you trying to convince actually? It'd be like me being in a room with another person, and then telling a lie about what happened in that room, and when confronted, I tell that same lie to the person that was there, and try my hardest to convince them. It's that stupid and that futile. Give up.

[TheCardPlayer]

Just read this thread:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8176203#post8176203

Me :And to be honest, the PS3 is the one with only 2 two games: MGS4 and DMC4= the rest is utter crap!

Some guy: Resistance: Fall of Man will be good (name one crappy Insomniac game), Sony also has Naughty Dog which is another good developer (the pre-crappy Crash Bandicoot games and the Jak and Daxter series). Grand Theft Auto 6 will most likely appear on the Playstation 3 first and be the best version. Final Fantasy XIII will be another system seller for the Playstation 3.

Me : I know that man. The PS3 will have great games! But I had to counter her ****ty argument how the 360 will have no good games!


See.

Or

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8132067&postcount=114




So what. I posted fanboy drivel to counter Zenien's MS bashing posts and you get all riled up and attempt to look badass. This is too funny.

[DrugDealer]

It's funny that I've yet to try and look badass (as this is the internet, and that action is reserved solely for dumbasses of your calibur) and yet you continue to harp on and on about this 'bully/badass' thing, as though were actually perceiving us that way, which is just scary stupid, and yet hilarious. And thanks for posting links to examples of you being a phoney douche. That sure proved your point. Or totally contradicted everything that someone in your position would normally attempt to accomplish with a post, but hey, whatever.

[TheCardPlayer]

Oh well. I won't lose anymore time with you. Stay in your corner with your idea of a world filled with fanboys and suck on your thumb.

[DrugDealer]

Only if you promise to keep bailing out of arguments once you've exhausted your supply of ways to look really dumb on the internet.

[Mentok]

What the hell? Kotaku.com said SONY wont have PS3 at E3?

[TheCardPlayer]

Not in a playable form at least. I still expect in-game videos and many announcements.

[Mentok]

That SUCKS :(

Sony screwing up the PSP and the UMD format. Now currently working hard to screw over the BR format... not trying hard as they can to screw up the PS3.

I have said it time and time again... SONY are only in the spot they are now because the previous market leaders screwed things up.

I forsee SONY doing the same thing now... I dont care show strong a brand name PLAYSTATION is. SEGA was once the only name to own.

[Zenien]

They're making all the right moves that they possibly can do with BR and Blim Blim and other devs has said that the OS isn't the final version. :confused:

[THE LIZARD#1]

Can you guys please stop fighting, all I wanted to do was talk about the PS3 not fight. Cardplayer its cool that you don't want a PS3 and I totally understand that. I think the graphics maybe better however i'm not going to say anything I'm going to wait and see. Also why is everyone hating Resistance Fall Of Man I think this game is going to be tight as hell. I just read something also that Sony is currently working with developers on 230 games. A lot will be launch titles and thats what they are going to release at E3!

P.S.

Cardplayer was that me you were talking to in that one post about Resistance?

[lars573]

Is this good or bad? I'm not really that knowledgeable when it comes to computers and stuff?

PS3Portal have written an article on the differences between the operating systems in the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3. Specifically, they discuss the amount of console power that the O/S takes up in each of the consoles. This is especially important in this generation because on the 360 you will note that the O/S is constantly running in the background and it is expected the same will occur in the PS3.

They claim that the O/S on the Xbox 360 uses 32mb of the 512mb available RAM, and also 3% of the CPU time on Core 1 and Core 2.

“Everything that one wants to do involving software on a game console, specifically while the user is playing games, comes at a cost. In the case of the Xbox 360, this cost is approximately 2% of total CPU time and 6.25% of the Xbox 360’s total available RAM. Balancing these out, one could argue that MS has removed a total of 4% of the Xbox 360’s total available system power in order to provide these features and more which were not mentioned. They also left room, CPU and RAM wise, for future features. In other words, they are not entirely using all of the CPU Time and RAM that they have reserved to date.”

They also have information on the PS3 O/S running costs, which are 32mb of the 256mb available GDDR3 memory on the RSX chip, 64mb of the 256mb available XDR memory off the Cell CPU, and 1 SPE (Synergistic Processing Elements) of the 7 available is constantly taken, with another available if needed.

“In the case of the PS3 this equates to 25% of the available cores on the CPU and 18.75% of the available RAM in the system. Balancing these out, one could argue that Sony has removed a total of 23% of the available system power in the PS3 for these features as well as others that are not mentioned here or will be added in future updates to the PS3 Operation System.”

Hmm, let's see here. The 360 is set up much like a laptop PC, with the whole system sharing one block of memory. While the PS3 is using a more desktop style with 2 blocks of memory one for the GPU and one for Cell. The only thing that could impede performance is how Cell and the 360's CPU's access and store data. And the pipelines between the memory and the processors. I mean in the grand scheme how much system resources are used by the OS mean nothing. Windows XP uses 128 megs of system ram and like 10% of the CPU cycles, and games like Oblivion can be made to run well on them. It's all about the games not how much is used by the OS.

[TheCardPlayer]

P.S.

Cardplayer was that me you were talking to in that one post about Resistance?Nah, it was hippie_hunter. See, you're not the only one looking forward to that game! ;)

[THE LIZARD#1]

Nah, it was hippie_hunter. See, you're not the only one looking forward to that game! ;)

Are you looking forward to that game? by the way I think I might rent Darkwatch tonight since you said it was amazing.

[THE LIZARD#1]

Hmm, let's see here. The 360 is set up much like a laptop PC, with the whole system sharing one block of memory. While the PS3 is using a more desktop style with 2 blocks of memory one for the GPU and one for Cell. The only thing that could impede performance is how Cell and the 360's CPU's access and store data. And the pipelines between the memory and the processors. I mean in the grand scheme how much system resources are used by the OS mean nothing. Windows XP uses 128 megs of system ram and like 10% of the CPU cycles, and games like Oblivion can be made to run well on them. It's all about the games not how much is used by the OS.

Okay now I am stupid as hell and all of you are going to laugh at me. This right here ^ that is all like jibberish to me. I don't understand any of it so can you like tell me in english is this good or bad, does this make PS3 a little more superior or no? (Like an advantage not like tyrant supeior)

[XwolverineX]

No I won't. You'll get banned again...then you'll come back and get banned again.

It's the way of life.


No, it's the circle of life.


BTW, anyone want to meet up and mate over at pride rock?