Batsuit Discussion Thread

[MaskedManJRK]

I was kinda hoping for a more simplified look, but this looks extremely badass. :up:

[TheBat812]

i love the suit design, and think with the lighting they'll likely use, it'll look very intimidating:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/938/newsuitlightingvy4.jpg

[storyteller]

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/b/images/batman-and-robin-6.jpg

This is the direction we dont wanna go.



The news suit.
Personally i like how the neck is thinner. Also this suit looks like he's ready for battle. Also notice that he's on top of a police car looking down. Yeah it looks more like riot gear. The suit works on paper. I mean alll the important areas have better defense. Things look a lot less puffy. The old suit had so much puffyness it wasnt funny. Bale probably hates this sob though and since chicago is getting a damn heatwave..........Suit wise the thing looks less makeshift then the first. Though it does look busy, but again everything works. We await better pictures to come.

[DarkSuperman]

Personally, I'm not really feeling it, but then again I've never liked any of the bat-suits from ANY of the films. Except, Sandy Collara's "Dead End" I think that is the best representation of batman ever, hands down.

That suit has soooooo much going on. It reminds me of some sort of futuristic police swat uniform. All those segmented lines are really unnecessary. He looks like he's wearing some sort of biker gear.

All they had to do was make something similar to the 2 pictures below. Used some of their "Rubber" to cover the vital organs and call it a day.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/40/Batmanlee.pnghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/Batbullet.jpg



I don't see why Batman couldn't have made his suit out of the same material as Spider-Man. I refuse to believe that a Poor Kid from Queens can out do a billionare when it comes to the threads department.

Then we'll get those arguments. "But they're going for realism" my answer to that is who cares. Batman is a fictional character from a fantastic world Ben Affleck Dodged bullets just fine as Daredevil without all that junk. This is Batman, not Law & Order: Gotham. Batman's suit should be as simplistic as possible. Everything he needs nothing he doesn't and see a heck of a lot he doesnt. An what about that belt? What exactly can that hold? Its called a "Utility Belt" for a reason. Doesn't look like it can hold a stick of gum...much less Detection Equipment, Silent Weapons, and Emergency Aids.

Bottom line: Batman is supposed to dress like some sort of fearsome demon. The cape should drape over him like callasped wings.

But I digress, my opinion matters little in the grand scheme of things. So I will just keep my dreams alive, until the fateful day that I am blessed with a Truly Perfect respresentation of The Batman. I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in, please...try not to bite my head off. :supes:

[Bond]

i love the suit design, and think with the lighting they'll likely use, it'll look very intimidating:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/938/newsuitlightingvy4.jpg
Jesus Christ, Batman is ****ing ready to kick some Joker ass.

The Joker's almost equally as badass, though. :)

[ToddIsDead]

Aesthetically, this thing is horrendous, but it'll be nice to see a more mobile Batman.

[Noir]

Wow, I couldn't be happier.

[Batman]

Some different lighting:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6439/newsuit2ec8.jpg

Would you mind if I made an avatar of the left one's head? The actual pic isn't a good enough quality, but this makes it look alot better.

[frederix]

I don't think its a good thing when batman starts to remind me of Bibleman.
Dont geddit please expain!!!!!

[Shawn_Venom]

I love the new suit, I think it's the most functional and dangerous batman has ever looked. It looks like a modern military ninja. Awesome.

My only complaint? The ears. I made a homemade batman mask, and I've redone the ears many times on it. I believe these are the 4th ears I've put on them, and I've basically gotten them to be exactly how I would like future batman renditions, both comics and movies alike, to use. You can disagree with me, that's fine. I just like these ears best.

The reason I like them is they are dynamic. They look curved from the sides, but straight from the front/back. It just keeps things interesting.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o39/duskuntilldawn/batmask.jpg

[TheBat812]

go for it.

[Prodigal__Being]

I don't think its a good thing when batman starts to remind me of Bibleman.

That and NightMan, or whatever the guy's name is.

I'm not a fan of it, lol.

And I liked it when Batman turns his head, he had to turn his whole body, and if they mess that crap up, it'll make me pretty much mad.

That will truley suck, imo.

[The Batman]

I'm with you. Iron Man comes to mind for me as well.

I like that the new suit is sleeker, but one of my primary problems with the Begins suit was the stylized designs. The TDK suit is covered with that stuff. I like what they've done with the cowl and belt, but the suit comes off as too 'busy' to me. I don't hate it, but it just seems off.

Exactly. This suit is too Robotic.

And the new cowl design kinda ruins the look for me, imo. I didnt like the stiff neck, but i wish there were another alternative for a mobile neck.

[Kal-El 8]

i love the suit design, and think with the lighting they'll likely use, it'll look very intimidating:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/938/newsuitlightingvy4.jpg

See now it looks very Intimidating :batty: :cwink:

[Batman]

go for it.

Thanks. :up:

[kytrigger]

Not too sure if I like it that much yet.

I definately like the cowl, but from that angle, the suit looks extremely busy. It could just be the angle is really highlighting those parts though and it could look pretty different from another view or while in motion. I do like that it seems they have incorporated jut as much usuability in the suit as the Begins one.

Overall, I think it's good, and I could definately like it more than the begins suit when I see more of it.

[CalebYourMaster]

9/10

[DarthSkywalker]

Personally, I'm not really feeling it, but then again I've never liked any of the bat-suits from ANY of the films. Except, Sandy Collara's "Dead End" I think that is the best representation of batman ever, hands down.

That suit has soooooo much going on. It reminds me of some sort of futuristic police swat uniform. All those segmented lines are really unnecessary. He looks like he's wearing some sort of biker gear.

All they had to do was make something similar to the 2 pictures below. Used some of their "Rubber" to cover the vital organs and call it a day.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/40/Batmanlee.pnghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/Batbullet.jpg



I don't see why Batman couldn't have made his suit out of the same material as Spider-Man. I refuse to believe that a Poor Kid from Queens can out do a billionare when it comes to the threads department.

Then we'll get those arguments. "But they're going for realism" my answer to that is who cares. Batman is a fictional character from a fantastic world Ben Affleck Dodged bullets just fine as Daredevil without all that junk. This is Batman, not Law & Order: Gotham. Batman's suit should be as simplistic as possible. Everything he needs nothing he doesn't and see a heck of a lot he doesnt. An what about that belt? What exactly can that hold? Its called a "Utility Belt" for a reason. Doesn't look like it can hold a stick of gum...much less Detection Equipment, Silent Weapons, and Emergency Aids.

Bottom line: Batman is supposed to dress like some sort of fearsome demon. The cape should drape over him like callasped wings.

But I digress, my opinion matters little in the grand scheme of things. So I will just keep my dreams alive, until the fateful day that I am blessed with a Truly Perfect respresentation of The Batman. I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in, please...try not to bite my head off. :supes:

A suit like that would make no sense. It would look phony and terrible on screen. Like a holloween costume.

Also I love the fact that the new suit doesn't give Bats a belly.

[Prodigal__Being]

I would've voted 0 if there was a choice.

Batman Begins' suit was very awesome, and even though it's not as bad as the suit in Batman Forever or Batman & Robin, it's still a terrible suit just for the fact that it looks more like a future-esque suit of Batman than what it should look like.

[IamtheBatman]

Least, its not all one piece costume like Batman 89' and that Nolan went back to BB cowl.

[blind_fury]

I like the joker pic better:oldrazz:

Im not too happy with it atm too much going on
it is definately batman forever'ish


The Batman Forever suit looks like Batman is getting ready for a Paris fashion show.

This suit looks like he's ready for a tactical warfare. Big difference.

[CGHulk]

Looks good!

[batbat_29640]

I love the new suit, I think it's the most functional and dangerous batman has ever looked. It looks like a modern military ninja. Awesome.

My only complaint? The ears. I made a homemade batman mask, and I've redone the ears many times on it. I believe these are the 4th ears I've put on them, and I've basically gotten them to be exactly how I would like future batman renditions, both comics and movies alike, to use. You can disagree with me, that's fine. I just like these ears best.

The reason I like them is they are dynamic. They look curved from the sides, but straight from the front/back. It just keeps things interesting.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o39/duskuntilldawn/batmask.jpg
hey they are cool ears but have you worn that mask while driving or sitting in a car? I'm 6'1 and I have a rubber bat mask and I tell ya it's nearly impossible to drive a car while wearing that thing. And it's due to the size of the ears which are not quite as big as yours but close.

[DarthAlani]

Impressive most impressive.

[Asteroid-Man]

the new suit looks great :up:

[Prodigal__Being]

The Batman Forever suit looks like Batman is getting ready for a Paris fashion show.

This suit looks like he's ready for a tactical warfare. Big difference.

Nope...gonna have to disagree.

It looks nothing like the comics.

The suit looks just way to weird.

BibleMan and NightMan, yes.

Batman, nope.

[KenK]

Not sold on it yet, I'm afraid. I understand the need for realism, and realistically, Batman's suit should provide optimal protection, but i think there need to be more of a medium between the comic costume, and visible body armor.

[ToddIsDead]

I think it just looks really ugly. The cowl is the only redeeming part.

[Borat]

i wonder why hes on that police car?

[Prodigal__Being]

It's pretty good. 8/10
I'm hoping the cape isn't flatly hemmed at the bottom. And I prefer his symbol be more visible than just the same color with the insignia raised


Wait...you're a guy who wants to make out with Jack Sparrow?

[LadyVader]

Well it looks less like a superhero costume and more like a battlesuit of some sort. Has a stormtrooper quality about it. I like that it looks streamlined but at the same time I feel that a lot of the teatricality of the earlier suits is gone. There is nothing really batlike about the suit save for the cowl.

It will take some getting used to but it's good that the poor guy can now turn his head. :)

[storyteller]

In the comics, the damn thing is armored to hell underneath the suit. Again a severe problem with the comics suit is that it simply doesnt work. Daredevil has super hearing so he can dodge crap. Spiderman tears up his suit everyday. Frankly Adam West messed up any thought about going with fabric. Also i just notice that batmans final suit for batman and robin didnt have npples.

[General Vulcun]

I like it a lot. It definately shows the necessary improvements Bruce would need to make as his war on crime improves.

Also, why do some have a problem with the "Bat-Cannon" on his forearm. I actually think it's pretty cool and will serve a great purpose in TDK.

[Sccmj23]

Big guy. Cowl. Cape. On top of a police car. or could be a disco floor. Can't be sure.
Gotta scurry elsewhere now.


I think it was on BOF that some 'scooper' reported there will be a scene with Batman crashing into a building through a window? Maybe this shot is from that scene?

[DarthAlani]

Looks badass.

[DarthSkywalker]

In the comics, the damn thing is armored to hell underneath the suit. Again a severe problem with the comics suit is that it simply doesnt work. Daredevil has super hearing so he can dodge crap. Spiderman tears up his suit everyday. Frankly Adam West messed up any thought about going with fabric. Also i just notice that batmans final suit for batman and robin didnt have npples.

Robin had that covered.

[Batty Belfry]

Personally, I'm not really feeling it, but then again I've never liked any of the bat-suits from ANY of the films. Except, Sandy Collara's "Dead End" I think that is the best representation of batman ever, hands down.

That suit has soooooo much going on. It reminds me of some sort of futuristic police swat uniform. All those segmented lines are really unnecessary. He looks like he's wearing some sort of biker gear.

All they had to do was make something similar to the 2 pictures below. Used some of their "Rubber" to cover the vital organs and call it a day.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/40/Batmanlee.pnghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/Batbullet.jpg



I don't see why Batman couldn't have made his suit out of the same material as Spider-Man. I refuse to believe that a Poor Kid from Queens can out do a billionare when it comes to the threads department.

Then we'll get those arguments. "But they're going for realism" my answer to that is who cares. Batman is a fictional character from a fantastic world Ben Affleck Dodged bullets just fine as Daredevil without all that junk. This is Batman, not Law & Order: Gotham. Batman's suit should be as simplistic as possible. Everything he needs nothing he doesn't and see a heck of a lot he doesnt. An what about that belt? What exactly can that hold? Its called a "Utility Belt" for a reason. Doesn't look like it can hold a stick of gum...much less Detection Equipment, Silent Weapons, and Emergency Aids.

Bottom line: Batman is supposed to dress like some sort of fearsome demon. The cape should drape over him like callasped wings.

But I digress, my opinion matters little in the grand scheme of things. So I will just keep my dreams alive, until the fateful day that I am blessed with a Truly Perfect respresentation of The Batman. I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in, please...try not to bite my head off. :supes:

I'm hardly gonna attack you for your opinion, as we all have one that is unique, but literal translation from comics don't always work well. IMO The dead end costume doesn't work for the style of movie being produced. It works for The Animated Series. Give it some time and try not to be too judgemental from one photo. Try to think about the context and tone of the story and you might might be suprised later on down the road.

Patience young Jedi. :cwink:

[Two-Face]

So what happens to Begins suit?

[batbat_29640]

In the comics, the damn thing is armored to hell underneath the suit. Again a severe problem with the comics suit is that it simply doesnt work. Daredevil has super hearing so he can dodge crap. Spiderman tears up his suit everyday. Frankly Adam West messed up any thought about going with fabric. Also i just notice that batmans final suit for batman and robin didnt have npples.
Crying shame . . . I know . . . some people just need to learn the value of consistency

[Stringer]

I likes it. Is the pic considered a still from the movie or a promo shot?

[Prodigal__Being]

Who the hell is Bibleman and NightMan?


Bibleman: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/WillieAames3.jpg

Can't find a NightMan pic...but it's this doctor who got hit by lightning or something with electricity and made a suit, kinda like Bibleman, but more dark and more blue, with no yellow on his mask.

[batbat_29640]

I'm hardly gonna attack you for your opinion, as we all have one that is unique, but literal translation from comics don't always work well. IMO The dead end costume doesn't work for the style of movie being produced. It works for The Animated Series. Give it some time and try not to be too judgemental from one photo. Try to think about the context and tone of the story and you might might be suprised later on down the road.

Patience young Jedi. :cwink:
WORD, Belfry . . . Hate leads to the Dark Side.

[The Guard]

Now I see people bashing a suit they swore they loved in BEGINS to rationalize this one's elements. That's really pretty sad.

You guys are aware that the whole "The Dark Knight" aspect of the Batman mythology is metaphorical and speaks more to Batman's metaphorical "crusade" and his war against the forces terrorizing his kingdom, right? Not about his COSTUME ACTUALLY BEING ARMOR?

And regardless, you don't have to have UBER-STYLIZED ARMOR to put more KNIGHT in Dark Knight. You just need armor. It's like they went "Hells bells, Batman doesn't have enough BLING! MORE BUSYNESS!"

This thing looks like the BEGINS suit fell apart at some point and there was mesh underneath it. And then, Bruce took each "ab muscle" and cut depth into it for some pointless reason. I hope we get some amazing explanation like "With this high tech mesh, your suit will breathe better, Mr. Wayne."

The Batsuit didn't seem to need a whole lot of upgrading, last I saw it, except to look LESS like techy military ARMOR. The Batsuit was already a weapon in BATMAN BEGINS. Batman fell out a window in it on fire and while he was singed, barely had a scratch, remember? He had the gauntlets, which sure, could have been improved a bit, maybe the cape connection. But this?

Guard I'm sorry you feel that way, but I don't think you are accurately describing your distaste with it as something akin to Schumacher's batsuits. Yes, you may feel it's busy looking, and to a certain extent it is.

I'm obviously referring to the way Schumacher or his designers felt the need to incorporate weird little busy "plates" on the suits. "To a certain extent". Come on, that's the busiest superhero costume I've seen in a long time, bar none.

Being a professional industrial designer for over a decade, I can attest to the fact it has nothing to do with "holding back" or being "too hard", but it comes down to issues of practicality. Whether you're desiging a Batman suit or a car or even a toaster, the "coolness" factor is just one isssue of many that have to be taken into account.

Looking at this design I can see that they put the issue of mobility and flexibility over the aesthetic look. Some concessions in the look HAVE to be made in order to make the suit more agile and mobile. That's just the simple fact of it. It's an article of clothing, and not a rigid object.[/quote]

In real life, you'd need to have split musculature and circular designs on your kneepads? I didn't realize the knees needed that much mobility, or that concentric circles aided in such things. I'm sorry, this is just a copout explanation for this design. They wanted it to look "cool" and "techy", and techy means lines and raised ****, and "rings" around the neck. This is a movie, not real life, and even in BEGINS, there was very little wrong with the Batsuit's mobility.

Too many folks make kneejerk reactions to every little nuance of a single photo of the new suit. Give it some time and wait until you see more photos.

Why? Are the nuances of the suit going to change? Are all the little busy lines going to disappear? Am I suddenly going to like seeing even MORE small, pointless details? Doubtful.

No. I love the suit b/c it works and it makes sense to wear something like that in an urban crime zone. As far as the "creature of the night" goes, it was his original intention to create a "monster" in BB and become "more than just a man" in the mind of his opponents. But, I think its a given by now that everyone in Gotham knows its a man dressed up in a bat costume running around.

Why is that a given? An entire section of Gotham saw a giant, monster BAT? Think maybe Goyer and Nolan put that scene in the film for a REASON, maybe?

If Gotham knows he's a man, and has no questions about it, then this franchise may as well have Bruce Wayne unmask and surrender, because what gives The Batman one of his great edges is gone. The element of superstition and fear over the unknown.

While cultivating the creature image worked in BB b/c he was creating something new, people adapt and its not as scary or frightening anymore when you know its just a man dressed up as a bat. It makes perfect sense that b/c of this he would move further towards a utilitarian/functional costume and away from one with a creature-like look.

What makes sense is that he would attempt to maintain his creature of the night guise. By, you know, making himself look more like one. By furthering his legend amongst the underworld. Maybe people THOUGHT he was a man before, but did they know he was completely human? Armored? Perhaps, but these are things they now will know for certain.

Guardimus Prime:

I'm not gonna counter you point for point because I don't disagree strongly enough to do it. I mean you did basically address everything I don't like about the design. Except that overall, when I look at it, I still see Batman - I still see a serious, badass, ready-to-rock fighter, as opposed to George Clooney in a chrome codpiece. So the attitude is there, I can deal with the very, VERY odd suit.

I see Batman, at least his basic silhouette, and his symbol, wearing a **** ton of unneccessary elements that are obviously only cosmetic. The suit isn't going to ruin the movie. But it's obvious the creature of the night aspect is either going to be cast off now, or otherwise be way half-assed. There's just no way around that now, believeably.

I will just say this: The armor being segemented does allow for freedom of movement - I agree that the armor doesn't have to be visible in the first place. But we know that's what they want to do. So at least segmenting it allows Bale to move without "teh puffy" effect that so many people here complained about.

The puffy effect was caused by the crew's insistence on molding the entire suit as one or two main pieces, and using thinner rubber. I've seen plenty of homemade Batman costumes that had stiffer, rubber chestpieces, and looked less busy, but still had mobility.

Again, I was never one who cried "teh puffy." Indeed, I was satisfied with Bale's level of flexibility in the BB suit. But at least with this new suit, we know he should have full range of movement - the split armor plating on the thighs and the layers on the chest and stomach are clearly meant to allow the armor plates to expand and contract as he bends.
I don't recall much of an issue in those areas in BATMAN BEGINS.

Interestingly, I have seen NO ONE refute the point that this makes him look less like a creature of the night, and more like a dude in heavy armor plating. And everyone's just ok with that?

I mean, when I look at Batman, I want to be like "Wow, his eyes are intense and he has horns!" Not wondering why his crotch armor has a segmented design, and what purpose that serves.

He looks like something from TRON.

[Hannibal King]

I love it, but I don't think the lighting helps as others have mentioned... I think it looks quite good like this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/Wulverene/TDKSuit.jpg

[Two-Face]

He gave it to Robin/Nightwing. Or maybe the wannabe vigilante is using it

Or Bruce sold it on ebay. :D

[Socrates]

I like it. Looks very mobile and durable, like a MacBook. :up: Not so sure about those gauntlets, but the cowl is a great improvement.

[storyteller]

Yep thats a lot better.

[batbat_29640]

Now I see people bashing a suit they LOVED in BEGINS to rationalize this one.

You don't have to have UBER-STYLIZED ARMOR to put more KNIGHT in Dark Knight.

You guys are aware that "Dark Knight" is metaphorical and speaks more to Batman's metaphorical crusade and his war against the forces terrorizing his KINGDOM, right? Not about his COSTUME ACTUALLY BEING ARMOR?
This thing looks like the BEGINS suit fell apart at some point and there was mesh underneath it. And then Batman took each "ab muscle" and cut depth into it for some pointless reason. I hope we get some amazing explanation like "With this high tech mesh, your suit will breathe better, Mr. Wayne."
The Batsuit was already a weapon in BATMAN BEGINS. Batman fell out a window in it on fire and while he was singed, barely had a scratch, remember?

"To a certain extent". Come on, that's the busiest superhero costume I've seen in a long time, bar none.


In real life, you'd need to have split musculature and circular designs on your kneepads? I didn't realize the knees needed that much mobility, or that concentric circles aided in such. I'm sorry, this is just a copout explanation for this design. They wanted it to look "cool" and "techy", and techy means lines and raised ****. This is a movie, not real life, and even in BEGINS, there was very little wrong with the Batsuit's mobility.


Why? Are the nuances of the suit going to change? Are all the little busy lines going to disappear? Am I suddenly going to like seeing even MORE small, pointless details? Doubtful.

Then this franchise may as well have Bruce Wayne unmask and surrender, because what makes Batman one of his great edges is gone.

What makes sense is that he would attempt to maintain his creature of the night guise. By making himself look more like one. By furthering his legend amongst the underworld. Maybe people THOUGHT he was a man, but did they know he was completely human? Armored? These are things they now will know for certain.

I see Batman wearing a **** ton of unneccessary elements. The suit isn't going to ruin the movie. But it's obvious the creature of the night aspect is either going to be cast off, or half-assed. There's just no way around that now, believeably.


The puffy effect was caused by the crew's insistence on molding the entire suit as one or two main pieces, and using thinner rubber. I've seen plenty of homemade Batman costumes that had chestpieces, and looked less busy, but still had mobility.


I don't recall much of an issue in those areas in BATMAN BEGINS.

Interestingly, I have seen NO ONE refute the point that this makes him look less like a creature of the night, and more like a dude in heavy armor plating. And everyone's just ok with that?

I mean, when I look at Batman, I want to be like "Wow, his eyes are intense and he has horns!" Not wondering why his crotch armor has a segmented design.
You're right!!! It does not make him the creature of the night that I would love to see Batman FINALLY made into. But hollywood crushed those dreams for me years ago.

[Lobster Charlie]

If you're going to darken the pic so much that you can't see all those nifty little details...then what's the point of those nifty little details?

[Two-Face]

Of course :D

[batbat_29640]

There have only been two shots in any live action batman movie that gave me that 'creature of the nght' feel.
Batman Returns . . . Rooftop with cats when he un folds his wings
Batman Begins where he's hanging upside down from the crane.

[MaskedManJRK]

To pay for his penthouse. :oldrazz:

Bruce shouldn't need to buy a penthouse--he already bought a hotel, remember? :whatever:

[Batty Belfry]

Now I see people bashing a suit they LOVED in BEGINS to rationalize this one.

You don't have to have UBER-STYLIZED ARMOR to put more KNIGHT in Dark Knight.

You guys are aware that "Dark Knight" is metaphorical and speaks more to Batman's metaphorical crusade and his war against the forces terrorizing his KINGDOM, right? Not about his COSTUME ACTUALLY BEING ARMOR?
This thing looks like the BEGINS suit fell apart at some point and there was mesh underneath it. And then Batman took each "ab muscle" and cut depth into it for some pointless reason. I hope we get some amazing explanation like "With this high tech mesh, your suit will breathe better, Mr. Wayne."
The Batsuit was already a weapon in BATMAN BEGINS. Batman fell out a window in it on fire and while he was singed, barely had a scratch, remember?

"To a certain extent". Come on, that's the busiest superhero costume I've seen in a long time, bar none.


In real life, you'd need to have split musculature and circular designs on your kneepads? I didn't realize the knees needed that much mobility, or that concentric circles aided in such. I'm sorry, this is just a copout explanation for this design. They wanted it to look "cool" and "techy", and techy means lines and raised ****. This is a movie, not real life, and even in BEGINS, there was very little wrong with the Batsuit's mobility.


Why? Are the nuances of the suit going to change? Are all the little busy lines going to disappear? Am I suddenly going to like seeing even MORE small, pointless details? Doubtful.

Then this franchise may as well have Bruce Wayne unmask and surrender, because what makes Batman one of his great edges is gone.

What makes sense is that he would attempt to maintain his creature of the night guise. By making himself look more like one. By furthering his legend amongst the underworld. Maybe people THOUGHT he was a man, but did they know he was completely human? Armored? These are things they now will know for certain.

I see Batman wearing a **** ton of unneccessary elements. The suit isn't going to ruin the movie. But it's obvious the creature of the night aspect is either going to be cast off, or half-assed. There's just no way around that now, believeably.


The puffy effect was caused by the crew's insistence on molding the entire suit as one or two main pieces, and using thinner rubber. I've seen plenty of homemade Batman costumes that had chestpieces, and looked less busy, but still had mobility.


I don't recall much of an issue in those areas in BATMAN BEGINS.

Interestingly, I have seen NO ONE refute the point that this makes him look less like a creature of the night, and more like a dude in heavy armor plating. And everyone's just ok with that?

I mean, when I look at Batman, I want to be like "Wow, his eyes are intense and he has horns!" Not wondering why his crotch armor has a segmented design.

Well, I gave you explanations for the design process. I had a rather interesting discussion with Bruce Wayne Jr. about it that went into more detail. I'm not here to convince anybody to change their minds and I'm not trying to change yours, I'm just trying to give you some plausible explanations based on how things get designed.

It's definitely not the same direction as the Clooney/Freeze toyish suit.

[Charlie No-One]

The legs look terrible. Cowl looks good...torso looks alright. I hate the piping effect they have going on. I need a better picture before I can tell if I truly like it or not.

[Wams]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/Wulverene/TDKSuit.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/nwonknu2k/FinishedWF.jpg

Funny....

:batman:
:supes:

[The Guard]

Might as well repost this here.

When I found out Batman would have a new suit in THE DARK KNIGHT, I thought "Oh, good. Delving into the THEMES, they'll armor him up, cover the armor with SOMETHING, make him look more like a Bat-Man, and less like a robot."

Nope. That would have been too hard. It would have required too much "holding back" for these creative/design people. So instead, they took a page out of Joel Schumacher's "busier batsuits", and made him look even "busier" than he was in BEGINS, and that much less like a "creature of the night".

I can't wait for the innovative new scene where Lucious Fox is like "Hey Bruce, check this NEW ARMOR we designed, even though the military poo-pooed our last batch!"

I'l try to be objective in my assessment of this picture:

1. The cowl is all right. If, however, that neck is "segmented" like every futuristic "design" I've ever seen, it's going to end up looking like crap combined with the smoother cowl.

2. The symbol looks...interesting. Wondering what the multiple levels are. Probably just armor. I don't mind that, but why so many levels to it? Is that their answer to the "oval" concept from the comics?

3. Wait a minute...even his ab armor has "levels" to it? Wonder what it's gonna DO. Something cool, I'll bet.

4. The gauntlets I can live with, even if they are a little busy/shiny. The brass knuckle aspect is ok, but they couldn't be hidden?

5. The belt is...the gold belt. Whatever.

6. Oh, I LOVE how the crotch armor is lined and segmented. I'm sure there's a good reason for that. Should draw plenty of attention to his package.

7. What the HELL is going on with the leg armoring? I guess for max protection he needs to have SPLIT armor pieces over the mesh leg armor? How clever.

8. Also love the bullseyes on his knees. Thought that went out with the bat-shaped kneepads of FOREVER/BATMAN & ROBIN? Apparently not.

9. The boots still don't have the distinctive shape, and are fairly boring compared to the rest of that robotsuit, don't you think? Shouldn't they have some zigzags or circles carved into them?

10. The cape looks shorter. That can't be good.

Does it look like armor? Sure. So what? That's kind of WHY it doesn't work so much. If that wasn't Batman standing there, it'd be cool, it'd be functional. If it didn't belong to a person who's trying to look like a creature of the night. But it does.

The fact that some of you are head over heels for this only reinforces my belief that most of you will simply swallow anything Nolan puts out.

It's WAY too busy. It's obvious that he's a man. It looks more segmented and robotic than the previous Batsuit, and that much LESS like a creature of the night.

I pray he's in the shadows during most of THE DARK KNIGHT. Because ANYONE who sees him will INSTANTLY be able to tell he's a man wearing armor. And you people *****ed when Joel Schumacher added nipples. Oh, but he can turn his head! HOW CLEVER! Because there couldn't POSSIBLY be a way to have his head turn and not make him look like a robot in the process!

Hint: Helmet and neckpiece...it's very simple, costume designers should have figured it out YEARS ago. Fans did.

There is one hope, and that is that this is Batman's MOTORCYCLE SUIT, and not his permanent one. Then I could stomach it. Please God, let that just be his "motorcycle attachments".

[batbat_29640]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/Wulverene/TDKSuit.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/nwonknu2k/FinishedWF.jpg

Funny....

:batman:
:supes:
Love the artwork!!!

[Hannibal King]

Don't see what's funny, but thats one damn cool picture.

[sasquatchs]

Bruce shouldn't need to buy a penthouse--he already bought a hotel, remember? :whatever:

It wouldn't do, the wallpaper was the wrong color

[Mister J]

I don't see why Batman couldn't have made his suit out of the same material as Spider-Man. I refuse to believe that a Poor Kid from Queens can out do a billionare when it comes to the threads department.

Then we'll get those arguments. "But they're going for realism" my answer to that is who cares. Batman is a fictional character from a fantastic world Ben Affleck Dodged bullets just fine as Daredevil without all that junk.
Batman's suit has to be much more functional than either of those two heroes. Daredevil's enhanced senses allo him the determine gunfire before the bullet is fired. Spider-Man spider sense allows him to do the same to an even greater degree. Bruce doesn't have that luxury. Sure, his reflexes and agility help, but it's nowhere near those levels. He NEEDS the armor. I'd prefer something of a different variety, something more organic as well, but what he wears does need to be substantive. In Dead End, Bartram was literally wearing a shirt. That's not gonna work. It'd make no sense for a non-metahuman to do what Bats does wearing a glorified Hanes Extra Long-T. There has to be some material there.

[DarkSuperman]

You're right!!! It does not make him the creature of the night that I would love to see Batman FINALLY made into. But hollywood crushed those dreams for me years ago.

Exactly. Creature of the Night! A DEMON!

http://features.cgsociety.org/stories/2005_08/dark_knight/images/batman.jpg

They're making batman more man, than Bat! I wanna see him have cool semi-clawed gloves, a cape that drapes around him like Dracula! Not some super high-tech swat uniform.

[Hannibal King]

I guess cool pictures and the new suit fit hand in hand, because they all kick ass...

[batboy99]

plus, the other people who rent the next rooms will hear is ''party nights'' with selina and/or talia, possibly both

[Charlie No-One]

The legs look terrible. Cowl looks good...torso looks alright. I hate the piping effect they have going on. I need a better picture before I can tell if I truly like it or not.

[Killing Joke926]

I love it, but I don't think the lighting helps as others have mentioned... I think it looks quite good like this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/Wulverene/TDKSuit.jpg

................I just crapped my pants.:wow: BEST BAT-SUIT EVVVVEEEEERRRR!!!!!!!:woot:

[batboy99]

Who the hell is Bibleman and NightMan?heres nightman, youve probably seen him before
http://www.blobulent.com:16080/nightman/Images/man_2.jpg

[Saint]

A few people have asked for my opinion on this, so I’ll give it (as if I wasn’t going to anyway, haha). The batsuit is a complicated issue, and this is one of the few times where I’m not immediately sure what I think. As such, what I say now may not be the same as what I say six months from now. This is only amplified by the fact that this isn’t the best shot of the suit they could have published; I really need to see a dead-on-shot of the torso.

This picture has been out for a few hours now, and I haven’t posted (besides my initial “whoa” response) because, as I mentioned, I’m trying to figure out what I think. In a perfect world, the suit would have been so in tune with my person expectations that I would have immediately said “Best suit ever,” but that didn’t happen. Even with the Begins suit I had an immediate positive reaction. This is decidedly more complicated.

I’ve had to consider three things:
1. What I wanted.

2. What I expected.

3. What I am prepared to accept.

This new suit does not fit snugly into any of those categories, which is why it’s hard for me to conjure a verdict.

Anyone who followed my various exchanges yesterday knows that my ideal suit is very different from the TDK suit. For those who didn’t follow said exchanges, I suggest you view this (http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/165/7/8/batman_concept_by_Bunk2.jpg). In my wildest dreams, the suit would have been some variation on that: flexible, simple armour padding over a mesh-like undersuit, a two-piece cowl, and a black/grey colour scheme. On the plus side, the TDK suit does indeed appear to be armour over a mesh bodysuit. I like that. However, the armour is far more elaborate than I’d hoped. It’s not the simple, broad, organic armour you see in that link. The cowl is a victory: two pieces means mega mobility, and this is also how I wanted the cowl built. Similarly, I wanted design elements from the face of the Begins cowl to remain, so I’m happy about that.

As for what I expected? This suit is definitely not that. I expected a streamlined Begins suit; only minor modifications. Perhaps some simplification and improvements, and a redesign of the torso plating. I liked the Begins suit, so I would have been content with a refined version. Instead, they have gone in an entirely new direction. I applaud the innovative approach they have taken to the costume; they’ve thrown traditional batsuit methods out the window. We’ve got a new cowl configuration, new material, and a new approach the body armour. The fact that the armour seems to be made in segments of lots of moving parts suggests to me that Batman’s mobility will be greatly increased, which is much appreciated. In it’s function, they certainly have refined it. Aestehtically, though, is a different matter. This suit is even more elaborate than the Begins costume, which is pretty much the opposite of both what I expected and what I wanted.

As far as specific details are concerned; I love the cowl configuration. As evidenced by my posts in this thread, I have long hoped for the cowl separate from the neck. Thankfully, we have also ditched the sometimes-awkward meganeck from Begins. I think the puffy-face problem the cowl sometimes gave Bale (such as when he met Gordon in the narrows) may be solved. The cowl appears streamlined: the jaw doesn’t seem as exaggerated and the egghead problem looks like it may have been solved. Both good things. So, I think what they’ve done there is great.

The cape I can’t really talk about because I can’t see enough of how it’s attached. The clasps appear gone, so thank God for that. However, it looks to be attached in the same place which is unfortunate. It’s a decent compromise; they merely need to take care in how they hang it. In Begins, it mostly hung off his back, which I don’t like. At other times, though, it hung in front of him, which looked much better. If they take care to hang it in this way as often as possible, that would be great.

The chest sort of confuses me. It looks like he has a plate on top of his regular chest plate, with the batsymbol on top of that. I can’t really see what it looks like, but I’m worried it might not look great. Presumably, this second plate exists so that the new batsymbol can sit properly on the chest—as we know, the reason they used a different symbol in Begins is because it didn’t sit right on the curve of the suit. I need to see it from a different angle.

The arms I like. Obviously I would have preferred something simpler, and I loved the BB arms, but these are neat. The big shoulder pad seems a little odd, but I’m interested to see what shape it gives the cape when the cape is covering it. The new gauntlets are right up my alley.

The legs are, again, a little complex, but I like them. They look very mobile. I’m not sure if I like the more than the BB legs, though.

Finally, the torso. What can I say about it, besides it being the exact opposite of what I wanted? It’s so futuristic and elaborate. I don’t think I dislike it, but I’m not sure I’ve I like it either. I do like the shape it gives his body, his silhouette. I don’t like all the detailing, as I’ve said. Regwec suggested that this picture was lit so that every line would be shown in stark detail, and that these details may be less obvious on film. I hope that is the case. Regwec also mentioned that the shape of it is more Batman-like, and that’s true. Blur your eyes, and the traditional look of Batman is there. One other thing of note is that I think the cowl may look sort of strange on top of this suit—the cowl is so smooth and organic, but the rest of the suit is very mechanical. Perhaps some seams should have been added to the cowl to counter this? Can’t say for sure, yet.

The most important question I have is about mobility. All these armour plates, do they bend? As they flexible like they were in Begins? I certainly hope so. I really do not like the idea of the plates on the stomach, arms, and legs being stiff. However, even the plates on the prototype Begins suit were supple and malleable (watch when Fox takes it out of the drawer), so I assume these plates will be, too.

The colour is the same as the Begins suit, which is a mixed bag. I have no problem with all-black, as I have explained before, but as you all know I prefer grey. I am somewhat disappointed, though, that the cowl is still not as dark as the cape. I’m pretty sure the symbol is black, but if it’s gold, that’s bad.

I am disappointed that the suit came out more armoured rather than less armoured than Begins. That is indeed an annoyance. However, as a whole there are some major successes with this suit. The shape of it, and the feeling that it may be more mobile are massive advantages. More importantly though, this suit feels more real than the BB suit. The BB suit look like rubber, period. This looks like functioning armour. It looks like something Batman is going to run into a firefight with, or sprint through a burning building with, or just kick ass with. That’s pretty cool. It feels more like Batman. I haven't decided yet if that makes up for the fact that it looks less like Batman.

This suit is going to cause a lot of division in the boards, I think. I expect—and understand—the people who will hate it and call it a power ranger suit. I also expect and understand that many will love it. And, of course, there will be those who will love it just because they’re sycophants, and those who hate it just because they’re haters.

Truth be told, the arms and legs may be busy, but not annoyingly so. The only thing that really weirds me out is how busy the torso is. If that was different, I think I would immediately love the suit. But it isn't. All I can say at this point is that I don’t dislike it. I like the feeling of it, I like aspects of it. Ultimately, it’s a very cool looking costume, but whether or not it’s a cool looking costume for Batman is something I’m not quite sure of yet. It all really depends, I think, on how that torso moves, and how it looks on film. This picture isn't the best way I can judge that.

[saint sinner x]

Some of you need to stop complaing seriously speaking. The suit looks like some high tech metal gear solid, splinter cell, syphon filter maddnesss. I honestly like it because he looks more adgile and he looks like he can do more things in it. I better see batman showing off his acrobatic skills, however this kind of suit makes more sense of the whole theme of escalation he seriously does look like he's from a black ops team ready to go into war. I like the fact that he can shoot out the blades from the gauntlets now that's nice. That suit looks fireproof and it also looks bulletproof. It can still work out in a very sleek mysterious way. Have batman do some recon work, I just hope they fix the fighting and upscale the action. The suit does look bad ass and now he can actualy move his head. The cape does something special according to the costume designer however he doesn't want to say. So, we'll see. I just hope a car doesn't hit me by july 18th 2008. I would of given the costume a 10 but I gave it an 8 because it seems like it relys much of high tech maddness which is also a good thing because he's going to be battling some sick mofos.

[xwolverine2]

looks like a transformer.... LOL


but seriously... i love it.

anything that could get that poor man nodding his head is PERFECT.

now nolan has no ****ing excuse to have him not fighting

[TheBat812]

Exactly. Creature of the Night! A DEMON!

http://features.cgsociety.org/stories/2005_08/dark_knight/images/batman.jpg

They're making batman more man, than Bat! I wanna see him have cool semi-clawed gloves, a cape that drapes around him like Dracula! Not some super high-tech swat uniform.
I prefer teh new suit to this for sure. This just looks lame.

[Wams]

Don't see what's funny, but thats one damn cool picture.

Simular to my design I have been doing for years.:cwink:

[Dark Guardian]

I must say that I'm not all that impressed.
I do like the cowl, because its finally separate from the neck and shoulders, which was the biggest problem with all earlier suits.
However, I gotta say WTF to the whole armor deal. Batman's suit is supposed to give the impression of a giant bat, and like someone said earlier, nothing makes me think less about a bat and more about a man than some guy in very easily recognizable Kevlar. I'm sorry, but even the Begins suit looked more Bat-like that this. I don't want a REAALLY Bat-like suit, because those giant ears and wierd claw fingers just don't cut it, but this is about as close to removing entirely the bat-motif as we're likely to see.

So...meh, its not horrible, but its a bit of a step down from Begins.

[batbat_29640]

Exactly. Creature of the Night! A DEMON!

http://features.cgsociety.org/stories/2005_08/dark_knight/images/batman.jpg

They're making batman more man, than Bat! I wanna see him have cool semi-clawed gloves, a cape that drapes around him like Dracula! Not some super high-tech swat uniform.
That doesn't really do it for me either.

[CrazyDavey]

The new Bat suit looks awsome. I can't wait to see the full effect on the big screen!

[batboy99]

Ok, now that I've seen both Bibleman and Darkman, where are the similarities? :confused:
i really dont know, they both look more like the B&R suits if you ask me

[DarthSkywalker]

Exactly. Creature of the Night! A DEMON!

They're making batman more man, than Bat! I wanna see him have cool semi-clawed gloves, a cape that drapes around him like Dracula! Not some super high-tech swat uniform.

Bat"MAN" is a man. He is also not an idiot. One who would rather not die when shot at.

[Shot Gun Shy]

awesomness ....

[The Guard]

Some of you act like the previous suit WASN'T firebroof and bulletproof. Wasn't that the POINT of it?

[Dr. Fate]

http://www.comingsoon.net/images/newbatmansuit.jpg

Wow. Very... mechanical looking.

[batboy99]

the picture is cool and all but i dont want batman to look like a vampire

[batboy99]

Some of you act like the previous suit WASN'T firebroof and bulletproof. Wasn't that the POINT of it?exactly, bruce is smart enough not to run around in a little cloth suit that he sewed on his spare time lol:oldrazz:

[Ender Durden]

Exactly. Creature of the Night! A DEMON!

http://features.cgsociety.org/stories/2005_08/dark_knight/images/batman.jpg

They're making batman more man, than Bat! I wanna see him have cool semi-clawed gloves, a cape that drapes around him like Dracula! Not some super high-tech swat uniform.


ARE U ****ING KIDDING ME?! IF U SAW THIS IDIOT RUNNING AROUND IN TIGHT SPANDEX AND A RUBBER CAPE U WOULD ****ING LAUGH AT HIM!!! NOW IF U SAW A NINJA WEARING ARMOR THAT COULD STOP UR PUNY PISTOLS FROM PENETRATING IT, THEN U WOULD **** UR PANTS BECAUSE U WOULD DEFINITELY KNOW U WERE SCREWED!!!


seriously some of u fanboys i swear to god....

[The Guard]

Will someone please point out the mobility issues that needed to be solved from the BEGINS suit? I don't remember that being a huge issue.

[DarkSuperman]

Bat"MAN" is a man. He is also not an idiot. One who would rather not die when shot at.

His whole deal is that he doesnt want the underworld to know that. Otherwise he'd just go out as Swat-Man.

[batbat_29640]

the picture is cool and all but i dont want batman to look like a vampire
Exactly!!!! Just not so obviously human. Have a balance between the armor and the creature suit.

[Golgo-13]

Can anyone find a pic of the suit Kilmer wears in the finale of Batman Forever? This suit really has that vibe and feel to it.

[The Chris]

I love it. He'll be able to move even better now.

[DarkSuperman]

Exactly!!!! Just not so obviously human. Have a balance between the armor and the creature suit.

Thats all Im asking for is MORE balance. I'm seeing more armor than bat this go around.

[hammerhedd11]

I actually really like it!:up:

[nolan's roll'n]

Wow, it's great! Especially the cowl it looks way better.

[batboy99]

Can anyone find a pic of the suit Kilmer wears in the finale of Batman Forever? This suit really has that vibe and feel to it.
you mean the silver one?
here
http://www.pestaola.gr/images/batman-4.jpg

[DarthSkywalker]

His whole deal is that he doesnt want the underworld to know that. Otherwise he'd just go out as Swat-Man.

He doesn't want them to know that? Unless he is a mutant that know this. It is the myth he plays with hence the cowl and cape. That myth wouldn't work to well if he got shot and ended up dead.

[batbat_29640]

Thats all Im asking for is MORE balance. I'm seeing more armor than bat this go around.
hey I agree. But for the context for the movie I prefer it to any of the 'toy' war suits of the past.

[DarthSkywalker]

Thats all Im asking for is MORE balance. I'm seeing more armor than bat this go around.

Armor is going to keep him alive.

Like Gordon said. Escalation. Batman can't do what he does if he is dead.

[Shot Gun Shy]

The sense and theme of escalation applies for his suit as well, I believe.
His utilities and suit must adapt to the current situation and/or conflict.

[Baba Ghanoush]

exactly, bruce is smart enough not to run around in a little cloth suit that he sewed on his spare time lol:oldrazz:

LOL. The Guard's logic baffles me too until I realize the "Poindexter rule" is in effect (you know Poindexter's the annoying guy in the group who can never be satisfied and finds criticism with everything for the sake of it).

[batbat_29640]

He doesn't want them to know that? Unless he is a mutant that know this. It is the myth he plays with hence the cowl and cape. That myth wouldn't work to well if he got shot and ended up dead.
That is an irrefutable point there.

[fabman]

I don't think the TDK suit looks ANYTHING like the BF one...

Bale's new suit is definitely more intimidating!

[batbat_29640]

Armor is going to keep him alive.

Like Gordon said. Escalation. Batman can't do what he does if he is dead.
Not denying the ned for armor just wants it less obvious.

[batman44]

I looks pretty good, though it is abit busy. It kinda look like he can unstrap some the padding off. Overall, I like it:up:

[Saint]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/Wulverene/TDKSuit.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/nwonknu2k/FinishedWF.jpg

Funny....

:batman:
:supes:
Funny that they don't look even remotely alike? Yeah, I guess so.

[Conebone69]

I must say that I'm not all that impressed.
I do like the cowl, because its finally separate from the neck and shoulders, which was the biggest problem with all earlier suits.
However, I gotta say WTF to the whole armor deal. Batman's suit is supposed to give the impression of a giant bat, and like someone said earlier, nothing makes me think less about a bat and more about a man than some guy in very easily recognizable Kevlar. I'm sorry, but even the Begins suit looked more Bat-like that this. I don't want a REAALLY Bat-like suit, because those giant ears and wierd claw fingers just don't cut it, but this is about as close to removing entirely the bat-motif as we're likely to see.

So...meh, its not horrible, but its a bit of a step down from Begins.
I agree but I still like the cowl from BB better

[cryptic name]

just got back home. i love this suit, especially how the cowl looks. and the fact that he's standing atop a police car in the pic makes it even better.

[batbat_29640]

Funny that they don't look even remotely alike? Yeah, I guess so.
Dude your cootch must really be bothering you . . . you might wanna see a Doctor about that.

[batboy99]

i reminds me of when a hockey player has all his gear on without the jersey lol

[Golgo-13]

you mean the silver one?
here
http://www.pestaola.gr/images/batman-4.jpg

Yeah, that's the one. The streamline feel of the new suit reminds me of this one.

I love the new suit, but to me it makes Batman look less intimidating than the BB one. It makes Bats look smaller and lighter; easier to push around, if ya know what i mean. Sure he'll probably be able to move alot faster because it looks lighter but it just looks alot less practical, and too hollywoody.

If anything they should lengthen the cape.

[Knives122]

It's very much an improvement over the others. I'm getting a sorta superman returns suit feel to it.

[batboy99]

random but: my tv was on and there some dumb commercial with some heartburn crap superhero and when it came on, the beginnig music sounds like the BB theme, i got exited there for a second lol

[Conebone69]

It's very much an improvement over the others. I'm getting a sorta superman returns suit feel to it.
What does batmans suit have to do with superman

[The Guard]

I don't recall asking for Batman to run around in a little cloth suit. Some of you are just being ignorant now, because someone disagrees with your hive mind.

In the comics, what does Bruce Wayne have for a Batsuit? That's right, he has an armored suit that doesn't resemble a Transformer, because it doesn't have to. This is an element that can be transferred to film (losing the black and gray color scheme, I'm ok with). But you're telling me that Bruce Wayne, who used to want to strike fear into the hearts of criminals, would want to took around in THIS, when he could, with all his money, easily have an armored suit that looked more like, oh say, a giant bat?

[DarthSkywalker]

Not denying the ned for armor just wants it less obvious.

I can understand that but I don't get what you would want. Armor being less obvious how? For the armor to even look effective it must have some size to it.

[superkong 500]

http://www.comingsoon.net/images/newbatmansuit.jpg

The new suit reminds me a bit of this suit

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/3280/sm3gob2jo6.jpg

It has a similar style and vibe to it.

[DarthSkywalker]

What does batmans suit have to do with superman

Tighter, slicker and looking as if made from actual material?

[Valorman]

man, i dont know, i must have terrible taste.

i dont understand the complaints, really, i cant grasp them. maybe some wanted a demon looking suit or a more organic feel, but some people are acting like TDK suit is terrible.

are you F&^*&%%&* WITH ME?

SERIOUSLY?

okay..okay breathe...

[DeFett]

Looks cool.

Looks like Bats is standing on some sort of console.

[Saint]

I'll post here what I posted in the other thread:

The batsuit is a complicated issue, and this is one of the few times where I’m not immediately sure what I think. As such, what I say now may not be the same as what I say six months from now. This is only amplified by the fact that this isn’t the best shot of the suit they could have published; I really need to see a dead-on-shot of the torso.

This picture has been out for a few hours now, and I haven’t posted (besides my initial “whoa” response) because, as I mentioned, I’m trying to figure out what I think. In a perfect world, the suit would have been so in tune with my person expectations that I would have immediately said “Best suit ever,” but that didn’t happen. Even with the Begins suit I had an immediate positive reaction. This is decidedly more complicated.

I’ve had to consider three things:
1. What I wanted.

2. What I expected.

3. What I am prepared to accept.

This new suit does not fit snugly into any of those categories, which is why it’s hard for me to conjure a verdict.

Anyone who followed my various exchanges yesterday knows that my ideal suit is very different from the TDK suit. For those who didn’t follow said exchanges, I suggest you view this (http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/165/7/8/batman_concept_by_Bunk2.jpg). In my wildest dreams, the suit would have been some variation on that: flexible, simple armour padding over a mesh-like undersuit, a two-piece cowl, and a black/grey colour scheme. On the plus side, the TDK suit does indeed appear to be armour over a mesh bodysuit. I like that. However, the armour is far more elaborate than I’d hoped. It’s not the simple, broad, organic armour you see in that link. The cowl is a victory: two pieces means mega mobility, and this is also how I wanted the cowl built. Similarly, I wanted design elements from the face of the Begins cowl to remain, so I’m happy about that.

As for what I expected? This suit is definitely not that. I expected a streamlined Begins suit; only minor modifications. Perhaps some simplification and improvements, and a redesign of the torso plating. I liked the Begins suit, so I would have been content with a refined version. Instead, they have gone in an entirely new direction. I applaud the innovative approach they have taken to the costume; they’ve thrown traditional batsuit methods out the window. We’ve got a new cowl configuration, new material, and a new approach the body armour. The fact that the armour seems to be made in segments of lots of moving parts suggests to me that Batman’s mobility will be greatly increased, which is much appreciated. In it’s function, they certainly have refined it. Aestehtically, though, is a different matter. This suit is even more elaborate than the Begins costume, which is pretty much the opposite of both what I expected and what I wanted.

As far as specific details are concerned; I love the cowl configuration. As evidenced by my posts in this thread, I have long hoped for the cowl separate from the neck. Thankfully, we have also ditched the sometimes-awkward meganeck from Begins. I think the puffy-face problem the cowl sometimes gave Bale (such as when he met Gordon in the narrows) may be solved. The cowl appears streamlined: the jaw doesn’t seem as exaggerated and the egghead problem looks like it may have been solved. Both good things. So, I think what they’ve done there is great.

The cape I can’t really talk about because I can’t see enough of how it’s attached. The clasps appear gone, so thank God for that. However, it looks to be attached in the same place which is unfortunate. It’s a decent compromise; they merely need to take care in how they hang it. In Begins, it mostly hung off his back, which I don’t like. At other times, though, it hung in front of him, which looked much better. If they take care to hang it in this way as often as possible, that would be great.

The chest sort of confuses me. It looks like he has a plate on top of his regular chest plate, with the batsymbol on top of that. I can’t really see what it looks like, but I’m worried it might not look great. Presumably, this second plate exists so that the new batsymbol can sit properly on the chest—as we know, the reason they used a different symbol in Begins is because it didn’t sit right on the curve of the suit. I need to see it from a different angle.

The arms I like. Obviously I would have preferred something simpler, and I loved the BB arms, but these are neat. The big shoulder pad seems a little odd, but I’m interested to see what shape it gives the cape when the cape is covering it. The new gauntlets are right up my alley.

The legs are, again, a little complex, but I like them. They look very mobile. I’m not sure if I like the more than the BB legs, though.

Finally, the torso. What can I say about it, besides it being the exact opposite of what I wanted? It’s so futuristic and elaborate. I don’t think I dislike it, but I’m not sure I’ve I like it either. I do like the shape it gives his body, his silhouette. I don’t like all the detailing, as I’ve said. Regwec suggested that this picture was lit so that every line would be shown in stark detail, and that these details may be less obvious on film. I hope that is the case. Regwec also mentioned that the shape of it is more Batman-like, and that’s true. Blur your eyes, and the traditional look of Batman is there. One other thing of note is that I think the cowl may look sort of strange on top of this suit—the cowl is so smooth and organic, but the rest of the suit is very mechanical. Perhaps some seams should have been added to the cowl to counter this? Can’t say for sure, yet.

The most important question I have is about mobility. All these armour plates, do they bend? As they flexible like they were in Begins? I certainly hope so. I really do not like the idea of the plates on the stomach, arms, and legs being stiff. However, even the plates on the prototype Begins suit were supple and malleable (watch when Fox takes it out of the drawer), so I assume these plates will be, too.

The colour is the same as the Begins suit, which is a mixed bag. I have no problem with all-black, as I have explained before, but as you all know I prefer grey. I am somewhat disappointed, though, that the cowl is still not as dark as the cape. I’m pretty sure the symbol is black, but if it’s gold, that’s bad.

I am disappointed that the suit came out more armoured rather than less armoured than Begins. That is indeed an annoyance. However, as a whole there are some major successes with this suit. The shape of it, and the feeling that it may be more mobile are massive advantages. More importantly though, this suit feels more real than the BB suit. The BB suit look like rubber, period. This looks like functioning armour. It looks like something Batman is going to run into a firefight with, or sprint through a burning building with, or just kick ass with. That’s pretty cool. It feels more like Batman. I haven't decided yet if that makes up for the fact that it looks less like Batman.

This suit is going to cause a lot of division in the boards, I think. I expect—and understand—the people who will hate it and call it a power ranger suit. I also expect and understand that many will love it. And, of course, there will be those who will love it just because they’re sycophants, and those who hate it just because they’re haters.

Truth be told, the arms and legs may be busy, but not annoyingly so. The only thing that really weirds me out is how busy the torso is. If that was different, I think I would immediately love the suit. But it isn't. All I can say at this point is that I don’t dislike it. I like the feeling of it, I like aspects of it. Ultimately, it’s a very cool looking costume, but whether or not it’s a cool looking costume for Batman is something I’m not quite sure of yet. It all really depends, I think, on how that torso moves, and how it looks on film. This picture isn't the best way I can judge that.

[MaskedManJRK]

I like it--sure it makes him look less like a "creature of the night," but with his reputation solidified, and the way he moves and acts, I'm sure he'd be able to easily make up for it.

Kinda confused about the batsymbol, but other wise, right now, I really dig it. :up:

[Conebone69]

Yeah, that's the one. The streamline feel of the new suit reminds me of this one.

I love the new suit, but to me it makes Batman look less intimidating than the BB one. It makes Bats look smaller and lighter; easier to push around, if ya know what i mean. Sure he'll probably be able to move alot faster because it looks lighter but it just looks alot less practical, and too hollywoody.

If anything they should lengthen the cape.
I agree but I dont think the new TDK suit looks anything like the batman and robin one

[batboy99]

I don't recall asking for Batman to run around in a little cloth suit. Some of you are just being ignorant now, because someone disagrees with your hive mind.

In the comics, what does Bruce Wayne have for a Batsuit? That's right, he has an armored suit that doesn't resemble a Transformer, because it doesn't have to. This is an element that can be transferred to film (losing the black and gray color scheme, I'm ok with). But you're telling me that Bruce Wayne, who used to want to strike fear into the hearts of criminals, would want to took around in THIS, when he could, with all his money, easily have an armored suit that looked more like, oh say, a giant bat?
well, i know this may sound corny, but they are trying to make all these superhero movies seem like they can fit in the realworld, in the comics yeah its armour but its also a drawing, so you can do that lol

[MaskedManJRK]

Will someone please point out the mobility issues that needed to be solved from the BEGINS suit? I don't remember that being a huge issue.

Well, it would explain why we couldn't see any of the action sequences...:o

[Conebone69]

man, i dont know, i must have terrible taste.

i dont understand the complaints, really, i cant grasp them. maybe some wanted a demon looking suit or a more organic feel, but some people are acting like TDK suit is terrible.

are you F&^*&%%&* WITH ME?

SERIOUSLY?

okay..okay breathe...
Its not terrible but its way too busy and less practicle. And I agree that the cowl being not attached to the suit makes it so batman can turn his head but it just looks kinda dumb but I like the BB one better

[The Guard]

well, i know this may sound corny, but they are trying to make all these superhero movies seem like they can fit in the realworld, in the comics yeah its armour but its also a drawing, so you can do that lol

It doesn't sound corny at all. Realism in the context of Batman doesn't neccessarily have to equal "techy robot armor". You did see BATMAN BEGINS right? A film that presented an armored, plated Batman who looked a lot LESS like a robot?

Do you recall anyone saying the film wasn't real enough? Anyone?

[batbat_29640]

I can understand that but I don't get what you would want. Armor being less obvious how? For the armor to even look effective it must have some size to it.
Oh I agree. As I stated earlier . . . for it's context in the movie I'm fine with it. I don't hate the new suit I dig it quite actually. I'm just stating the fanboy in me wanting to see a more creature of the night Batman. S'all I'm sayin.

[dark_sentinel]

personally i think that this suit is the best superhero costume to ever be designed. it gives Batman a whole new edge while keeping the concept of someone wearing that and jumping around Gotham protecting people feasible. plus it just looks so freaking cool!:woot:

kudos to Nolan and Hemming for an awesome piece of design.

[The Guard]

Well, it would explain why we couldn't see any of the action sequences...

The first action sequence with Falcone's men is blurred because Batman is supposed to resemble a creature of the night dealing punishment. After that, you can pretty much see his movements very well, and see that he has as much mobility as anyone would need.

[DieSmiling]

I think it looks awesome. Different, and more complicated than I expected, but good anyway.

[BubbaGump]

ARE U ****ING KIDDING ME?! IF U SAW THIS IDIOT RUNNING AROUND IN TIGHT SPANDEX AND A RUBBER CAPE U WOULD ****ING LAUGH AT HIM!!! NOW IF U SAW A NINJA WEARING ARMOR THAT COULD STOP UR PUNY PISTOLS FROM PENETRATING IT, THEN U WOULD **** UR PANTS BECAUSE U WOULD DEFINITELY KNOW U WERE SCREWED!!!


seriously some of u fanboys i swear to god....

The irony in this...:rolleyes:

[nintendo nerd]

I have a question.

Is he going to wear the new costume all the movie, or will he use the original on the beginning of the movie?

Personally, I prefer the old costume.

[Knives122]

Tighter, slicker and looking as if made from actual material?

Pretty much it look likes a second skin, much like the Superman outfit.

Natural one would say.

[MaskedManJRK]

I don't recall asking for Batman to run around in a little cloth suit. Some of you are just being ignorant now, because someone disagrees with your hive mind.

In the comics, what does Bruce Wayne have for a Batsuit? That's right, he has an armored suit that doesn't resemble a Transformer, because it doesn't have to. This is an element that can be transferred to film (losing the black and gray color scheme, I'm ok with). But you're telling me that Bruce Wayne, who used to want to strike fear into the hearts of criminals, would want to took around in THIS, when he could, with all his money, easily have an armored suit that looked more like, oh say, a giant bat?

But to the common criminal, he would still look like a giant bat. Batman will probably still sneak about to take people out. By the time that a thug sees the armor, the thug would be too busy having the living piss beaten out of him to really notice. :o

[batboy99]

has anyone thought that the reason it is so busy is for more pretection? wasnt there a rumour that something happens to the other suit? so maybe bruce thinks it needs more pretection

[Conebone69]

http://www.comingsoon.net/images/newbatmansuit.jpg

The new suit reminds me a bit of this suit

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/3280/sm3gob2jo6.jpg

It has a similar style and vibe to it.
Lol bat-goblin

[forever-knight]

AWESOME suit. I dont know why people are saying it's too "busy"... it's better than it being too bland eh? I'm a big fan of the new cowl.. and hopefully they dont keep the bottom of the cape the same.. I wanna see it like it is in the comics :p . Otherwise it's excellent.. and it reflects the theme of escalation.

08 cant come soon enough

[MaskedManJRK]

I have a question.

Is he going to wear the new costume all the movie, or will he use the original on the beginning of the movie?

Personally, I prefer the old costume.

If the rumor is true that Batman's ride and costume gets messed up by The Joker, then I think it is indeed going to be that. He'll have the Tumbler and the Begins suit at the beginning, and have this costume and some other ride at the end.

[batman44]

Though I like the suit, I understand completely were Guard is coming from. In all honesty I would've prefered an streamlined, less armored look.

[sasquatchs]

I don't recall asking for Batman to run around in a little cloth suit. Some of you are just being ignorant now, because someone disagrees with your hive mind.

In the comics, what does Bruce Wayne have for a Batsuit? That's right, he has an armored suit that doesn't resemble a Transformer, because it doesn't have to. This is an element that can be transferred to film (losing the black and gray color scheme, I'm ok with). But you're telling me that Bruce Wayne, who used to want to strike fear into the hearts of criminals, would want to took around in THIS, when he could, with all his money, easily have an armored suit that looked more like, oh say, a giant bat?

Not really feeling your argument on this one, criminals are frightened more by the myth and mystery in their minds than details on the suit. Some more aesthetic flourishes won't change that. They're not supposed to have a chance to inspect it, the general shape is consistent. A plainer, more faithful suit isn't inherently scarier, convert it to screen and it'd be rather bland compared with all the muscle definition in the drawings. Although they have gotten rid of my favorite element, the thick panther neck that everyone seems to hate.

[SHADOWBAT69]

we're discussing this over on the BOTB, this is my post:


Cowl design looks the same. I like the idea of the cowl and neck being seperate pieces. Havent we all discussed that here?lol

Belt and boots look basically the same, except the belt looks like its up higher on his hips.

The armor pieces. I dont get this at all. Especially on the legs. Looks like a Tron design. I dont understand why having all thos little "plates" would enable more movability. Like its designed just for appearance. Ugly appearance.

Chest , hard to tell from this pic. Will need a straight shot to really judge this.

Shoulders. Too big, almost like football pads. lol, not quit, but too big for my liking.

The guantlets and gloves. Gloves look like a cross between motocross and sparing gloves. Look awfully bulky. The guantlets, again, to me, looks too bulky.Like he took shin guards and glued them onto his suit. Retractable blades. Cool idea, too bad Harry Goblin had them in Spidey 3. Also explains the bigger guants. But shooting out at people? Sorry, I just think thats funny. Like my sig says, "go go gadget bat fins!" I dont want to hear anyone critisize Clooneys batskates again!lol

All in all, I am very disappointed in this suit. It looks like a motocross outfit painted black. I know alot of guys on here have actually had similar idea of doing custom suits that had this type of design, thats all good for a fan made suit, but for a big budget bat flick, I think this is horrid.

Oh well, at least Ill be saving some money from not putting together a new suit.

[Killing Joke926]

Oh I agree. As I stated earlier . . . for it's context in the movie I'm fine with it. I don't hate the new suit I dig it quite actually. I'm just stating the fanboy in me wanting to see a more creature of the night Batman. S'all I'm sayin.

My guess since Bats is now finally going to face off with the Joker, his more grimmer and agressive characteristics will begin to develop; in a way bringing that monster-bat like essence into the film.

As long as he's in the dark I think we may soon begin to not just to idolize him, but also fear him......

[MaskedManJRK]

The first action sequence with Falcone's men is blurred because Batman is supposed to resemble a creature of the night dealing punishment. After that, you can pretty much see his movements very well, and see that he has as much mobility as anyone would need.

Uh...are you serious? Just about every action sequence, except the Tumbler sequence, the prison fight, and the swordfight on the frozen lake, they all had really shaky, moving camera styles. To this day, I still can't quite figure out who stabbed the sword into the monorail systems in the final fight.

Hopefully this will allow us to actually SEE Batman kicking ass, and not feel like we're having our asses kicked by him. :o

[nintendo nerd]

If the rumor is true that Batman's ride and costume gets messed up by The Joker, then I think it is indeed going to be that. He'll have the Tumbler and the Begins suit at the beginning, and have this costume and some other ride at the end.

Thanks MaskedMan

I hope it doesn't ruin the realistic feel we had in BB. And suddenly Batman will do some crazy stuff and getting some new weapons we've never seen before. I really hope it won't happen.

[batbat_29640]

My guess since Bats is now finally going to face off with the Joker, his more grimmer and agressive characteristics will begin to develop; in a way bringing that monster-bat like essence into the film.

As long as he's in the dark I think we may soon begin to not just to idolize him, but also fear him......
Good point and I have no doubt about Bale's ability to play the beast in Bats. That's why he's my favorite live action Batman.

[Batty Belfry]

To this day, I still can't quite figure out who stabbed the sword into the monorail systems in the final fight.



I have the same issue with that scene. I swear it's different every time I watch it.

[Wams]

Funny that they don't look even remotely alike? .

If you say so.:word:

[BubbaGump]

I have the same issue with that scene. I swear it's different every time I watch it.

Nolan has that effect on the mind...

[Arkady Rossovich]

8 out of 10,it looks too much like body armor.Even more so than the first film.:dry:

[batbat_29640]

If you say so.:word:
Dude I loved the art and I see a simularity. You'll have to forgive Saint . . . I think he's PMSing right now.

[Baba Ghanoush]

has anyone thought that the reason it is so busy is for more pretection? wasnt there a rumour that something happens to the other suit? so maybe bruce thinks it needs more pretection

Exactly. It seems like the biggest gripe people have against the suit design is that its too busy and/or too robot like, but I fail to see how this is a bad thing especially when it fits in with the rumored storyline.

When I first saw the Tumbler, the BB suit I was let down. They didn't have the finished look of what I was used to seeing in the previous films. But after seeing BB, not only did everything make sense within the confines of the story, but I ended up liking the designs.

There's only so much one can translate to the big screen. The fact that Nolan was able to craft an excellent storyline as well as maintain the necessary elements of what makes Batman who he is extraordinary. But people will always find criticism as is human nature.

[Anguissette1979]

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9769/batsuitcomp2it2.jpg


I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. I don't believe this comparison is justified. Details on the Clooney suit were purely aesthetic (and the huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge codpiece makes me crack up every time) while the pieces on the new suit are slightly aesthetic but highly functional.

After taking a looooooong look at the suit I definitely like it. It's the fabric that some fans wanted with the armor that still others wanted. Yes, it's different than what we're accustomed to as far as suits go but I'm down with it. I like the bact that it's 100% BALE you're seeing there as opposed to Bale and a crapton of rubber/latex. It looks a bit futuristic but not something outside the realm of what is feasible.

As for the segmented plates on the legs, having worn leg plate armor before (medieval reenactment... don't ask) in both metal and leather forms, it makes MUCH more sense movement-wise to have several smaller plates mounted together. Does it offer as much protection as a solid plate? No, but it allows you to move faster and with a greater range over motion so you can kick the crap out of the bad guy BEFORE he maims you.

I like the look of the new cowl - the scene in BB where Bats has a mega double-chin outside of Arkham always bothered me and the new shape will hopefully eliminate that potential. I also love the fact that he's got his head turned at an angle that no other movie Batman would comfortable be able to do without scads of bunched up rubber.

Ang says 9/10 :up:
(I tried to show this to Babs Gordon and she freaked out about coming into the spoiler forum..... what have you goons DONE to her?!?! :eek:)

[Dark52Knight]

I don't know......I like the shape of the other costume, I like the Dark/Beastly feel of Past Bat suits compared to this slim one.....Hope it looks better than i think it does

[Obi-Ron]

Someday some movie maker is going to realize batman's costume is gray and midnight blue, not completely black.

[batbat_29640]

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. After taking a looooooong look at the suit I definitely like it. It's the fabric that some fans wanted with the armor that still others wanted. Yes, it's different than what we're accustomed to as far as suits go but I'm down with it. I like the bact that it's 100% BALE you're seeing there as opposed to Bale and a crapton of rubber/latex. It looks a bit futuristic but not something outside the realm of what is feasible.

As for the segmented plates on the legs, having worn leg plate armor before (medieval reenactment... don't ask) in both metal and leather forms, it makes MUCH more sense movement-wise to have several smaller plates mounted together. Does it offer as much protection as a solid plate? No, but it allows you to move faster and with a greater range over motion so you can kick the crap out of the bad guy BEFORE he maims you.

I like the look of the new cowl - the scene in BB where Bats has a mega double-chin outside of Arkham always bothered me and the new shape will hopefully eliminate that potential. I also love the fact that he's got his head turned at an angle that no other movie Batman would comfortable be able to do without scads of bunched up rubber.

Ang says 9/10 :up:
(I tried to show this to Babs Gordon and she freaked out about coming into the spoiler forum..... what have you goons DONE to her?!?! :eek:)
Yeah . . . we try to forget and the keep pulling us back in . . . THE HORROR!!!

[CConn]

Dude I loved the art and I see a simularity. You'll have to forgive Saint . . . I think he's PMSing right now.
I hate to break it to you, man, but if Saint is Beevis, Wams is Butthead.

[Freedom77]

It looks Awesome!!

This is ,IMO, one of the best representations of Batman.

And sheeesh, why do people want it to be like the comics "Adam West" style???

This IS Batman in The Dark Knight.

Someday some movie maker is going to realize batman's costume is gray and midnight blue, not completely black.

You obviously can't shake that image out of your head. There was a reason batman had those colours in the comics. Realistically it doesn't work.

[Conebone69]

Do you guys think this could be a unfinished product and this was from a while ago? Or would they even show an unfinished product

[GoogleMe94]

black is the only color for movie batmans. thats final.

anyways, oh god.....i dont know what to say. i didnt think they could go worse with the begins suit, but here is the proof. and i thought the begins suit looked too much like the sonar suit, THIS one takes the cake. i was hopeing for a return to the original look, not fake muscles or anything, but something like the Returns suit with the armored look but still keeping with the batman original look from the comics. this one....just, wow. pimped out batman. good that the "puffy" is gone, but look what crap we got instead! i really dont know what to say, it looks like skeleton batman, ugh, i dont like it. will have to see more pics before i mke a last call, but i really dont like what i see. WAAAAY too high tech, more like commando batman. wtf? please return to the classic look, not this weird modern crap. what ever happened to the "creature of the night" thing? now its all "robot of the night". oh please. will make a good action figure though, LOL. along the lines of "transformer" batman.

and im NOT sayin this cuz i didnt really like bale, but because that is my first impression when i sw that pic. still lookin foward to it, hope its better then begins was.

[Justice Bringer]

5 out of 10

Mainly because I HATE the armor. Its so unnecessary. I think the Jim Lee Hush Style Batman suit can be replicated in an awesome way using the Spider-man/Superman suit material. Bale's in good enough shape to pull it off (unlike Keaton; thats why Keaton needed armor).

I'm sick of being stuck with the armored suits for the films.

[MALFUNCTION]

If he can turn his head left and right, I'm sold on this suit!
The armor details really don't bother me. He works in the dark, the cape will obscure him. And it looks like he has much more freedom of movement for badass poses and general kickassery.
IF the original suit is in the beginning of the film and this is the next evolution, I'm hopeing that some serious sheet goes down.
I'm excited.
The face looks more menacing too.

[Saint]

I hate to break it to you, man, but if Saint is Beevis, Wams is Butthead.

We're a comedy duo? Why Aren't I getting paid?

[creamyiraq]

Someday some movie maker is going to realize batman's costume is gray and midnight blue, not completely black.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f0/Detective27.JPG

Bob Kane says "Blue? Where?"

It's all a matter of the artist and their vision of the suit. This is no different, except for this is film and not comics. This is Nolan's vision of the suit. And I like it, for the most part. 8/10

[batbat_29640]

1000's of starving comedians and here people are trying to be funny

[Conebone69]

If he can turn his head left and right, I'm sold on this suit!
The armor details really don't bother me. He works in the dark, the cape will obscure him. And it looks like he has much more freedom of movement for badass poses and general kickassery.
IF the original suit is in the beginning of the film and this is the next evolution, I'm hopeing that some serious sheet goes down.
I'm excited.
The face looks more menacing too.
To me the face looks less menacing cuz of the small neck

[The Batman]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f0/Detective27.JPG

Bob Kane says "Blue? Where?"




Bob Kane must be blind to his own freaking comics...which shows him sporting blue even back in the 40's...

[CConn]

We're a comedy duo? Why Aren't I getting paid?
Well, I like you like a thousand times better than Wams, and isn't my affection payment enough?

[Saint]

1000's of starving comedians and here people are trying to be funny
Screw the starving comedians, I look out for number one!

[SpinyNorman]

Batman is supposed to look fairly vulnerable and human when he's just standing in the light. That's why he always makes sure to use surprise, obfuscation, and sheer terror to win.

How the suit looks won't make much of a difference to the common criminal if you can't see him coming at all.

[JTIZZLEVILLE]

Someday some movie maker is going to realize batman's costume is gray and midnight blue, not completely black.

Actually, all film makers know this. They just aren't stupid enough to attempt to put some gay blue and gray costume on screen.

You, on the other hand...

[Saint]

Well, I like you like a thousand times better than Wams, and isn't my affection payment enough?
"Can I spend it?"

[Justice Bringer]

The new suit makes Batman look like hes from the future...

Looks too complicated as opposed to streamlined.

[thatsabadoutfit]

5 out of 10

Mainly because I HATE the armor. Its so unnecessary. I think the Jim Lee Hush Style Batman suit can be replicated in an awesome way using the Spider-man/Superman suit material. Bale's in good enough shape to pull it off (unlike Keaton; thats why Keaton needed armor).

I'm sick of being stuck with the armored suits for the films.

It's called realism. If someone shot at a man in spiderman/superman material, Batman would die. You're missing the whole point. BATMAN HAS NO POWERS. He is human. He needs armor to do what he does and survive through it.

It's not that hard to understand.

[Dark52Knight]

I dont like it, Its missing that Beastly/Dark feel of past bat suits.

[Charlie No-One]

Actually, all film makers know this. They just aren't stupid enough to attempt to put some gay blue and gray costume on screen.

You, on the other hand...

I didn't know there was such a color as gay blue.

[Golgo-13]

I agree but I dont think the new TDK suit looks anything like the batman and robin one

Not the B&R one, the one from the end of Batman Forever.

[granturismohalo]

I hate change so the BB suit is a keeper. But Im sure they will change it.

[nintendo nerd]

I didn't know there was such a color as gay blue.

it's brand new!! :cwink:

[Anguissette1979]

Weeee! I've missed threads that have new posts when I hit the refresh key every 30 seconds.

I must say that reading peoples' initial reactions earlier in the evening was highly amusing.

Can't wait to see this bad boy in action. Well done TDK team :D

[AdmNelson]

Some various comments about the suit:

1.) I like it well enough; I think it fits in with the "knight" concept (yes, it is armor, and it works both as a literal idea and as metaphor.) I do wish it were more streamlined and sleeker -- like a neoprene scuba suit covered in really smooth, sleek plates, but overall, it's pretty cool.

2.) Has anyone noticed that the actual chestplate area (the main armor covering the pectoral muscles) looks just like the original BB suit? Here's a theory: what if Batman's "new suit" wasn't entirely a completely new design, but was shown to be another bare-bones "Nomex survival suit" understructure with a bunch of new additions? (Bruce may be visiting Hong Kong because he's outsourced a bunch of suit components to various vendors, and is checking up on them.)

3.) Finally, I don't agree with all of Guard's comments, but he made a point that I think is dead-on:

-- There's a tendency for fanboys to COMPARE every single new thing they see with something else -- and not only compare two items, but play a maddening zero-sum game where, in order for them to LOVE something, they must express their HATE for something else. You see this crap constantly online, and it drives me utterly crazy.

Too many fanboys play the "versus" game, where they can't seem to love multiple things in the same genre -- if you love Star Trek, you have to hate Babylon 5. If you loved Babylon 5, you have to hate Deep Space Nine. If you loved Firefly, you have to hate Battlestar Galactica. If you love the new Galactica, you have to hate the old version. If you love Marvel, you have to hate DC (and vice versa.) And, so on and so forth.

Kids, you do NOT have to suddenly HATE the "Batman Begins" suit -- which most of you have loved for 2-3 years -- in order to like this new suit. You can actually like, or love, both of them equally, and like -- or love -- both films equally. Quit being so damn fickle, okay?

-- Admiral Nelson

[P.S. If I read "TDK is gonna OWN Iron Man next summer!" or vice-versa, I'm gonna have to seriously hurt someone. I, for one, am looking forward to both films.]

[Justice Bringer]

It's called realism. If someone shot at a man in spiderman/superman material, Batman would die. You're missing the whole point. BATMAN HAS NO POWERS. He is human. He needs armor to do what he does and survive through it.

It's not that hard to understand.

So how the hell does Batman survive in TAS and the comics?

Does this mean Green Arrow should be running around in armor too? Considering he has no powers either. Hopefully not.

[Valorman]

i think im just going to accept that i have the ability to see things and interpret them as awesome when, based on other opinions i run into, the general concensius is im wrong.

this is a light shot people. he's in the middle of a lit room, on top of a police car no less. it would not matter if he was wearing a cloth/mutant bat-esque halloween costume, he would not strike fear in the hearts of criminals in ANYTHING based on the way this promotional shot is taken. judging the suits design because it apparently looks "less batlike" makes no sense to me, they added some panels, big whoop, they didint change anything iconic anywhere on this suit.(unless the batsybol is going to be grey, then i'd understand some minor gripes)

this suit has mobility, some say the sleek aspect of the suit takes away from the "bat" motif...

how?

are bat's incredibly muscle bound and i missed something?

he is definetly packing some muscle under that suit, if you cant tell by looking at it i dont know what to tell you.

as for the whole "swat=bad" thing. batman isint going to be running into lit rooms with a ballistics sheild and tear gas, he's going to be manipulating his environment, blending with the shadows, and being more stealthy than we've ever SEEN with this new mobility.

dont even get me started on the cloth thing. i like cloth suits, i like the idea of a batman, high tect cloth of some kind, but come on, you can't say that take credibility for this new suit?
your in a room with a bunch of gun toating gangsters, your grapplehooking (or, in the movies case, gliding with your cape) high across gotham looking for a place to land. your driving a high tech bat themed tank/car that could be shot at or blow up at any moment.

do you want cloth? or do you want high tech, sleek, mesh/armor protection weved together not only to be more durable than an already previously tough batman suit, but to be more mobile.

THAT'S bruces logic, he's not hiding behind the suit, he's UTILIZING it, to keep the war going, he does NOT take chances, he does NOT risk stupid things like being shot in the leg during a firefight. you cannot explain cloth as ultra-durable to a moviegoing auidence, at least, not with nolans tone on this story.

what we have here, ladies and gent's, is an awesome, badass, sleek, tough, BAT THEMED suit that not only shows us how far this production can go, but presents to us what batman, if our universe allowed, could REALLY look like...

and i, for one, dig it to the grave.

[dark_sentinel]

Bob Kane must be blind to his own freaking comics...which shows him sporting blue even back in the 40's...

TB, with all do respect you need a history lesson: Bob Kane created Batman. this is his original representation of the character.

Respect the Kane, or you will Bob in the water.

write that down:cwink:

[nintendo nerd]

Trust me, I really want to like the new suit. But I just can't. I feel he looks like a huge action figure. I hope we'll get another picture soon, that will change my mind.

[batbat_29640]

Screw the starving comedians, I look out for number one!
Sound logic Saint

[Anita18]

Holy crap the batsuit has mother*****ing RAZORS that he can shoot out! :eek:

It was a bit too strappy at first glance, but I think it's definitely a natural progression from the BB suit, so :up:

[Charlie No-One]

http://www.comingsoon.net/images/newbatmansuit.jpg

Wow. Very... mechanical looking.

Reposting the picture so it is on page.

[Batty Belfry]

Some various comments about the suit:

1.) I like it well enough; I think it fits in with the "knight" concept (yes, it is armor, and it works both as a literal idea and as metaphor.) I do wish it were more streamlined and sleeker -- like a neoprene scuba suit covered in really smooth, sleek plates, but overally, it's pretty cool.

2.) Has anyone noticed that the actual chestplate area (the main armor covering the pectoral muscles) looks just like the original BB suit? Here's a theory: what if Batman's "new suit" wasn't entirely a completely new design, but was shown to be another bare-bones "Nomex survival suit" understructure with a bunch of new additions? (Bruce may be visiting Hong Kong because he's outsourced a bunch of suit components to various vendors, and is checking up on them.)

3.) Finally, I don't agree with all of Guard's comments, but he made a point that I think is dead-on:

-- There's a tendency for fanboys to COMPARE every single new thing they see with something else -- and not only compare two items, but play a maddening zero-sum game where, in order for them to LOVE something, they must express their HATE for something else. You see this crap constantly online, and it drives me utterly crazy.

Too many fanboys play the "versus" game, where they can't seem to love multiple things in the same genre -- if you love Star Trek, you have to hate Babylon 5. If you loved Babylon 5, you have to hate Deep Space Nine. If you loved Firefly, you have to hate Battlestar Galactica. If you love the new Galactica, you have to hate the old version. If you love Marvel, you have to hate DC (and vice versa.) And, so on and so forth.

Kids, you do NOT have to suddenly HATE the "Batman Begins" suit -- which most of you have loved for 2-3 years -- in order to like this new suit. You can actually like, or love, both of them equally, and like -- or love -- both films equally. Quit being so damn fickle, okay?

-- Admiral Nelson

[P.S. If I read "TDK is gonna OWN Iron Man next summer!" or vice-versa, I'm gonna have to seriously hurt someone. I, for one, am looking forward to both films.]

Great post Adm. :up: Excellent P.O.V.

[General Vulcun]

I HATE the armor. Its so unnecessary.YA! Bruce Wayne's skin should be strong enough to take bullets and blades! FLAW! MAJOR FLAW! Go back to the dranwing board Chris "the idiot" Nolan! Skin is STRONG! DUUUUUUUUUH!

:whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:

In case you haven't guessed, I love the suit. :yay:

[Dark52Knight]

TDK is gonna own Iron Man next summer

[batbat_29640]

TDK is gonna own Iron Man next summer
WORD!!!

[cryptic name]

anyone who compares this with the schumacher "sonar" or "ice" suits is a jack ass.

[Chucktallica101]

Am I the only one who "gets" it?

Grow up, whiners. This is a movie based on realism and respect for the characters. This suit resembles something very similar from the military. As a Marine, our recon team had specially trained members that wore suits very similar to that (minus the cape, cowl, sweet arm blades, belt, boots). That's why I dig it. It's VERY realistic.

[Voyeur]

Man! I don't know WHAT to think. Part of me loves the damn thing...another part makes me wonder why the costume designers always feel the need to go nuts on the bat-suit.

I love that he gets to move his neck (obviously) more effective than ever. Yet I wanted them to keep the organic quality of the cowl itself.

I definitely wanted the fabric-like base and liked the idea of some use of armor, but didn't expect this much!

I've always loved their use of the scalloped gauntlets...not sure about them shooting out. Could be pretty cool, I guess.

The rest of me wants to see what it looks like in action...at night.

[Dark52Knight]

This looks like a schumacher "sonar" or "Ice" suit

[cryptic name]

Someday some movie maker is going to realize batman's costume is gray and midnight blue, not completely black.

gray and black.

[Obi-Ron]

Assuming the cape is actually black, and highlighted in blue (like Superman's hair)...

http://www.batmania.com.ar/images/images_online/dead_end03.jpg

This makes a much better color scheme than the rubber fetish suit we've been getting since 89.

[batbat_29640]

This looks like a schumacher "sonar" or "Ice" suit
No way!!!

[Charlie No-One]

http://www.comingsoon.net/images/newbatmansuit.jpg

Mhmmm

[AdmNelson]

TDK is gonna own Iron Man next summer

*SMACK!!!*

-- Admiral Nelson

[Deaths Head II]

I would have preferred a more traditional outfit, but this is honestly so much more visually appealing to me then the Begins suit that I really can't complain.

[jimmy]

WOW. I ****ing love it.

[Anguissette1979]

I've always loved their use of the scalloped gauntlets...not sure about them shooting out.

They look like half-batarangs from BB to me. Maybe the just detach and are extras to throw in addition to the ones he can fold and keep on the belt (am I imagining him folding one from BB? It's been a long day...)

[JTIZZLEVILLE]

Man! I don't know WHAT to think. Part of me loves the damn thing...another part makes me wonder why the costume designers always feel the need to go nuts on the bat-suit.

I love that he gets to move his neck (obviously) more effective than ever. Yet I wanted them to keep the organic quality of the cowl itself.

I definitely wanted the fabric-like base and liked the idea of some use of armor, but didn't expect this much!

I've always loved their use of the scalloped gauntlets...not sure about them shooting out. Could be pretty cool, I guess.

The rest of me wants to see what it looks like in action...at night.

I think you summed up my feelings as well.

Sitting here thinking about the entire suit, I LOVE IT!!! But then I question so many things about the suit. Why the knee pads? Why the bulky gloves? Why the large shoulder pads?

But, yet, I still think it is perfect.

It's such a strange feeling.

[Anguissette1979]

This looks like a schumacher "sonar" or "Ice" suit

And I look like Cindy Crawford... NOT. :whatever:

[The Joker]

Someday some movie maker is going to realize batman's costume is gray and midnight blue, not completely black.

actually it's black and grey, blue is just substituted for black for shadowing in some comics...and grey wouldnt really work on screen, doesnt blend with the shadows enough in real life.

[Kal-el_from_Rio]

am I seeing a chin line in the cowl????

[batbat_29640]

And I look like Cindy Crawford... NOT. :whatever:
Ya know now that you mention it there is that mole

[jimmy]

Man, this thing looks so badass. I can't wait to see just how, exactly, Batman acquires his new suit!

[Batty Belfry]

They look like half-batarangs from BB to me. Maybe the just detach and are extras to throw in addition to the ones he can fold and keep on the belt (am I imagining him folding one from BB? It's been a long day...)


He did have folding ones as well. You have not stepped into the twilight zone just yet....:woot:

[jimmy]

Yes.

[The Joker]

Assuming the cape is actually black, and highlighted in blue (like Superman's hair)...

http://www.batmania.com.ar/images/images_online/dead_end03.jpg

This makes a much better color scheme than the rubber fetish suit we've been getting since 89.

he's too bright, and looks fat...so no, it's not

[Keyser Sushi]

I see Batman, at least his basic silhouette, and his symbol, wearing a **** ton of unneccessary elements that are obviously only cosmetic. The suit isn't going to ruin the movie. But it's obvious the creature of the night aspect is either going to be cast off now, or otherwise be way half-assed. There's just no way around that now, believeably.

That's basically the biggest issue I have with it. But you know, I felt the EXACT same way when I saw the Begins suit for the first time - all the angular little lines, the clunkiness of it - I thought it look waaay too robotic and ungainly. And then more pictures came out and I liked it more. And then I saw it in context and I was sold.

So, all I'm saying is, let's wait and see it in context. I agree that this suit looks too damn robotic. I don't disagree with you there. But I also know from my experience with Begins that what looks rather assy in a publicity photo can look 100% better in context. So, we'll see.

The puffy effect was caused by the crew's insistence on molding the entire suit as one or two main pieces, and using thinner rubber. I've seen plenty of homemade Batman costumes that had stiffer, rubber chestpieces, and looked less busy, but still had mobility.

I understand that. I think they just felt that thinner rubber would make the suit more lightweight, which would be less punishing for the actor wearing it. Although I'd still like to see a non-rubbery Batsuit one of these days, dammit.

I don't recall much of an issue in those areas in BATMAN BEGINS.

You'll notice I said that I had no problem with the level of mobility in the Begins suit. It was fine, as I said. I'm just saying - if they had to use rubber, wanted to keep the weight down, wanted to maintain mobility, wanted to get rid of "teh puffy," this was the way to solve all of those problems. I'm not saying I wouldn't rather have seen fabric. I'm just saying... if they *had* to do rubber, the plating effect makes more sense.

Interestingly, I have seen NO ONE refute the point that this makes him look less like a creature of the night, and more like a dude in heavy armor plating. And everyone's just ok with that?

Apparently some people are okay with it, yeah. But I just told you my position on this: wait and see.

I mean, when I look at Batman, I want to be like "Wow, his eyes are intense and he has horns!" Not wondering why his crotch armor has a segmented design, and what purpose that serves.

Well, you could begin by not looking at his crotch. ;)

He looks like something from TRON.

In bright light he certainly does. Let's see what happens when he's in the shadows and backlit all over the place, as so often happened in Begins. You have to admit that all the details on the Begins suit stood out in direct light - but in the film they all sort of disappeared.

[Anguissette1979]

He did have folding ones as well. You have not stepped into the twilight zone just yet....:woot:

Just checking... I'll admit it's been about 6 months since I've last watched BB. I'm losing my touch. :cwink:

[Eros]

Love the new suit!

[CConn]

I'm of two minds. On one hand, it's a much more realistic and sensible Batman costume, that I could actually see someone running around fighting crime in, so that's awesome

On the other hand, I look at a movie like Spider-Man, and his costume, or Superman's costume, and wonder, why can't they just make a Batman movie that's a comic...not a gritty urban drama with Batman thrown into it?

That said, for what they were going for, it's a great design. Excellent. One that I honestly wish was in BB rather than the black rubber. So yeah, I'd probably give it a 9 or so.

[JTIZZLEVILLE]

Assuming the cape is actually black, and highlighted in blue (like Superman's hair)...

http://www.batmania.com.ar/images/images_online/dead_end03.jpg

This makes a much better color scheme than the rubber fetish suit we've been getting since 89.

If I'm a criminal I'm suppose to be scared of this? Looks like some nerd who went outside in his PJ's.

What will criminal's fear? How bout a man with armor that can stop a bullet, knife, or anything else you through at him?

Sound familiar...

[The Sage]

The suit looks more segmented, I imagine it will give him more freedom of movement. Great to hear he´ll REALLY get to move his head properly now. Now we need to see it in action to see if it´s really less bulky.

And, before you start complaining - oh, why didn´t they make it look EXACTLY like the comics, why can´t the suit be gray and the cowl black, etc. - keep saying this to yourself... Galactus is a cloud... Galactus is a cloud... Galactus is a cloud...

The whole "I don't like it but at least isn't as screwed up as what those guys did" mentality isn't the best way to approach this.

[nintendo nerd]

file:///C:/WINDOWS/TEMP/moz-screenshot-2.jpg

So what do you think Mr. Schumajer?

It's kind of campy

[jimmy]

Who Knows What Danger Lurks In The Hearts Of Men!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ender Durden]

So how the hell does Batman survive in TAS and the comics?

Does this mean Green Arrow should be running around in armor too? Considering he has no powers either. Hopefully not.




wasn't TAS a cartoon?

and aren't comics, uumm, comics?

:dry: :huh:

i mean, i thought that was obvious, unlike some...

[AdmNelson]

I think you summed up my feelings as well.

Sitting here thinking about the entire suit, I LOVE IT!!! But then I question so many things about the suit. Why the knee pads? Why the bulky gloves? Why the large shoulder pads?

Those are actually excellent questions -- and the obvious answer is that, in TDK, he NEEDS THEM. If the suit looks like this, it's for a reason that's in the script, and should make sense.

In the film, Batman may be shown going into "battle" against a bunch of crazies with tons of weaponry, and just plain ol' batarangs and stealth won't always cut it. Once he loses the element of surprise, he has to open a 55-gallon drum of Industrial Strength Whoop-@$$ on the thugs terrorizing Gotham.

-- Admiral Nelson

[Justice Bringer]

You know for the sake of realism it would still work if Bruce wore a thin metal-based plate attachment under the Spider-man/Superman spandex for bulletproofing. Thin like the plate Keaton used to protect himself from Joker's bullet in that scene from Batman 1989.

Using Nolan's versimilitude; they could easily explain it (just like how they explained the cape) and pull off a non-armored Batman look like in the comics.

[CConn]

he's too bright, and looks fat...so no, it's not
Plus you can see his nipples.

[The Sage]

7.5, so I give it an 8. Not what was expected or wanted, but pleasantly surprised. It's weird seeing rubber pieces on top of cloth. Personally, I wish the armor was internal and not so obvious. A more organic look that would enforce to criminals that he could be a creature instead of obviously showing he's a man in a costume. But hey, if it's shadow and darkness mostly, it won't matter. Plus the rubber pieces would reflect light while everything else remains shadowed, so it could produce some nice visuals.

Go go gadget Batman, or Robo Batman and so forth.

[DeFett]

Needs more puffy!

[CConn]

he's too bright, and looks fat...so no, it's not
Male model body builders are fat?

[The Joker]

I'm of two minds. On one hand, it's a much more realistic and sensible Batman costume, that I could actually see someone running around fighting crime in, so that's awesome

On the other hand, I look at a movie like Spider-Man, and his costume, or Superman's costume, and wonder, why can't they just make a Batman movie that's a comic...not a gritty urban drama with Batman thrown into it?

That said, for what they were going for, it's a great design. Excellent. One that I honestly wish was in BB rather than the black rubber. So yeah, I'd probably give it a 9 or so.

But Batman at his best, even in the comics, IS a gritty urban drama...IMO anyway.

[The Batman]

TB, with all do respect you need a history lesson: Bob Kane created Batman. this is his original representation of the character.

Respect the Kane, or you will Bob in the water.

write that down:cwink:

Sigh.....

Was it or Was it not Bob Kane who drew a Batman wearing Gray and Blue, and was it or was it NOT bob Kane who said his original interpretation wasnt the refined version of his Batman?

And I need the history lesson? Face facts folks...bob Kane is just as guilty as bringing in the blue as EVERYONE ELSE. Not only that, people are babbling on about original interpretations when Kane himself has essentially said that it was not the version he wanted to convey.

[MSwift]

I love the new suit. I can see how some people are complaining about it, but I love it. Looks like we're gonna see Batman finally kick some serious arse on the big screen.

[cryptic name]

he's too bright, and looks fat...so no, it's not

i'm no fan of the dead end suit, but in what way does he look fat? you can see his abs right through the costume

[CConn]

But Batman at his best, even in the comics, IS a gritty urban drama...IMO anyway.
Yes, exactly. In your opinion.

And your opinion sucks. fyi.

[BatMatt]

well, for those that really don't like it, the original suit will be back for the beginning of the film at least ;)

[JTIZZLEVILLE]

Those are actually excellent questions -- and the obvious answer is that, in TDK, he NEEDS THEM. If the suit looks like this, it's for a reason that's in the script, and should make sense.

In the film, Batman may be shown going into "battle" against a bunch of crazies with tons of weaponry, and just plain ol' batarangs and stealth won't always cut it. Once he loses the element of surprise, he has to open a 55-gallon drum of Industrial Strength Whoop-@$$ on the thugs terrorizing Gotham.

-- Admiral Nelson

You are absolutely right. I was speaking off first impressions, but then I remembered that Nolan hasn't failed me yet and probably never will.

And, like I've said before, I AM IN LOVE WITH THE SUIT!!!

[MechaOrga]

Jesus i step away for a day or two and the new suit is revealed sheeesh!!!!


ok,

Suit is waaaaay too busy for me. Like people have said i'll reserve my judgement until i see moving footage. To know where im coming from, i thought the begins suit was way too busy looking(from the weird shoulder pads to the segmented stomach. BUT i will reserve any bashing until i see it lighted by pfister and in action).

Did anyone mention yet that the chest symbol is much smaller(i know he's on an angle but it still looks much smaller.)

Here's to good discussion...

[ghost_x]

I like the suit, I like the idea that it is extreme armour. That is after all the purpose of the suit, ye it conceals his identity, but it's first and foremost a means of protection. My only gripe with the design, is that my initial viewing reminded me greatly of this monstrosity.

http://www.qwipster.net/steel.jpg

[The Joker]

Sigh.....

Was it or Was it not Bob Kane who drew a Batman wearing Gray and Blue, and was it or was it NOT bob Kane who said his original interpretation wasnt the refined version of his Batman?

And I need the history lesson? Face facts folks...bob Kane is just as guilty as bringing in the blue as EVERYONE ELSE. Not only that, people are babbling on about original interpretations when Kane himself has essentially said that it was not the version he wanted to convey.

Actually, Bob Kane originally drew him wearing a dominio mask and a red cape...Bill Finger is the one who came up with the grey and black with the cowl...so his argument is even more flawed, saying that he wants Kanes version, a guy who looks like Robin :rolleyes:

[Eros]

I'm of two minds. On one hand, it's a much more realistic and sensible Batman costume, that I could actually see someone running around fighting crime in, so that's awesome

On the other hand, I look at a movie like Spider-Man, and his costume, or Superman's costume, and wonder, why can't they just make a Batman movie that's a comic...not a gritty urban drama with Batman thrown into it?

That said, for what they were going for, it's a great design. Excellent. One that I honestly wish was in BB rather than the black rubber. So yeah, I'd probably give it a 9 or so.


well thats the thing, spider-man and superman have amazing powers, they are much more lighter characters to boot. Batman has always percieved his work as a "war on crime" he is a solider in this war, he terroizes criminals, and has to take on many armed men and women, without any super powers like spidey and supes have. The best batman stories are very gothic [like the 70s stories] and very dark and gritty [like the 80s,90s, and 2000s stories].

[Ender Durden]

You know for the sake of realism it would still work if Bruce wore a thin metal-based plate attachment under the Spider-man/Superman spandex for bulletproofing. Thin like the plate Keaton used to protect himself from Joker's bullet in that scene from Batman 1989.

Using Nolan's versimilitude; they could easily explain it (just like how they explained the cape) and pull off a non-armored Batman look like in the comics.


but seriously, for the sake of realism why the hell would anyone put spandex over body armor?

so itll be cool looking?

so criminals will THEN think that its a creature wearing tight spandex instead of a man wearing body armor? there really is no logic to it.

[Superman4ever]

Unreal how cool this suit is...BEST SUIT EVER!

[Justice Bringer]

But unlike the Steel armor; this design just looks too busy. Theres too many designs on the chest, arms and legs.

It makes him look like a futuristic robot.

[Chucktallica101]

I like the suit, I like the idea that it is extreme armour. That is after all the purpose of the suit, ye it conceals his identity, but it's first and foremost a means of protection. My only gripe with the design, is that my initial viewing reminded me greatly of this monstrosity.

http://www.qwipster.net/steel.jpg
Never again.

[cryptic name]

You know for the sake of realism it would still work if Bruce wore a thin metal-based plate attachment under the Spider-man/Superman spandex for bulletproofing. Thin like the plate Keaton used to protect himself from Joker's bullet in that scene from Batman 1989.

Using Nolan's versimilitude; they could easily explain it (just like how they explained the cape) and pull off a non-armored Batman look like in the comics.

a thin metal plate would not help you if you are shot in the chest. it may stop the bullet, but the trauma would still do some serious damage.

[The Joker]

Yes, exactly. In your opinion.

And your opinion sucks. fyi.

Do you want Batman fighting the Joker in a museum full of giant instruments or something? Year One was a gritty, urban drama, and it was great. So were Long Halloween, and Dark Victory. So was DKR. Sure, all but Year One also have fantastical elements in them, but so did Batman Begins, and I'm sure this will too.

[Freedom77]

file:///C:/WINDOWS/TEMP/moz-screenshot-2.jpg

So what do you think Mr. Schumajer?

It's kind of campy

You can't put links on the web from your computer....

Welcome to the internet.

[The Batman]

Actually, Bob Kane originally drew him wearing a dominio mask and a red cape...Bill Finger is the one who came up with the grey and black with the cowl...so his argument is even more flawed, saying that he wants Kanes version, a guy who looks like Robin :rolleyes:


Exactly...but I'm the one who needs the history lesson...for stating the absolute fact that it was Kane who started drawing a Gray and Blue Batman....hell, the original Kane design didnt even last a full year...

[DeFett]

Hopefully someone can find a high res verison of this.

[Anguissette1979]

Why the knee pads?

Have you ever knelt for any length of time on hard surface. How nice did your knees feel after that? There's a reason that every army uniform has pockets for knee pads/plates. Doesn't do bats any good if he gets up and hobbles after conducting some surveillance crouched behind some obstacle or another.

Why the bulky gloves?

Have you ever punched loads of people repeatedly? Ok... I haven't either but it kickboxing, with just handwraps punching a nice squishy bag my knuckles were feeling it after an hour or two. Plates would be nice if I had to make contact with jaws all night, every night.

:)

I know... I know... you said you liked it. Just answering questions :P

[The Joker]

I like the suit, I like the idea that it is extreme armour. That is after all the purpose of the suit, ye it conceals his identity, but it's first and foremost a means of protection. My only gripe with the design, is that my initial viewing reminded me greatly of this monstrosity.

http://www.qwipster.net/steel.jpg

I actually think the suit was the only decent thing in that movie...

[Chucktallica101]

You can't put links on the web from your computer....

Welcome to the internet.

PWNED!

[Eros]

Do you want Batman fighting the Joker in a museum full of giant instruments or something? Year One was a gritty, urban drama, and it was great. So were Long Halloween, and Dark Victory. So was DKR. Sure, all but Year One also have fantastical elements in them, but so did Batman Begins, and I'm sure this will too.


good point Joker.

[Justice Bringer]

but seriously, for the sake of realism why the hell would anyone put spandex over body armor?

so itll be cool looking?

so criminals will THEN think that its a creature wearing tight spandex instead of a man wearing body armor? there really is no logic to it.

All criminals will see is a dark shadow of a giant Bat in the night.

Using the materials of the Superman Returns/Spider-man suit; the spandex element could still look just as threatening on this Batman. The inside metal would only be on the chest and parts of the arms and legs....but seperated so he can move easily.

This armor makes him look like a bulky action figure from the future. It reminds me too much of the Batman forever design.

[The Joker]

Exactly...but I'm the one who needs the history lesson...for stating the absolute fact that it was Kane who started drawing a Gray and Blue Batman....hell, the original Kane design didnt even last a full year...

Was it Kane who wanted him blue though, or was it a printing issue?

[ghost_x]

But unlike the Steel armor; this design just looks too busy. Theres too many designs on the chest, arms and legs.

It makes him look like a futuristic robot.

Batman needs the hi tech gadgetry, unfortunately this isn't the Batman series where everything comes conveniently kept in his utility belt, he needs to store weaponary and advanced armour within the suit.