Batsuit Discussion Thread

[ghost_x]

That's a question to ask the storywriters isn't it? We don't know the motivations behind it in this particular story, but it's been done in past Batman films.

So, sorry, but you can't diffuse what I proposed with that as your logic.

Wow, are you getting high on your own denial fumes now?

[RustyCage]

The denial...it's so...so thick in here...can't...can't breath...

Just trying to keep an open mind so we can still enjoy the movie. Sorry that suffocates you.

[Rynan]

And I thought The Joke was bad. I guess toy designers where at the design meeting.

[TheDemon'sHead]

I don't love it but I feel it fits well with the direction the movies seem to be going. And it is "The Dark Knight" so the armor makes sense... in a way.

[RustyCage]

Wow, are you getting high on your own denial fumes now?

What kind of retort was that?

I was just explaining why what I said couldn't be immediately shot down, there's no reason to kick up flames.

[TheBatman072]

Just trying to keep an open mind so we can still enjoy the movie. Sorry that suffocates you.


No. Keeping an open mind would be saying "Hmm. Okay. I see where they're going with this. Not too keen on it, don't really dislike it either, but I'll just go for the ride and see where it takes me."


You, are NOT keeping an open mind.

[Bandyt]

The denial...it's so...so thick in here...can't...can't breath...

Farking Oath! I reckon, it's worse than the Joker thread when the first pic was released. In fact, I'd rather discuss this in the Joker thread, the people in there seem to be the people in here that like it. Can't there be a like and dislike thread? haha.

[Super Kal]

everyone has a right to their opinion about the suit, whether it be good or bad.

[TheBatman072]

Farking Oath! I reckon, it's worse than the Joker thread when the first pic was released. In fact, I'd rather discuss this in the Joker thread, the people in there seem to be the people in here that like it. Can't there be a like and dislike thread? haha.


No way. The Joker denial was A LOT worse. There were people in those threads that were still claiming it was all fake! Even like a week later!


Denial so thick it grabbed you by the throat and just strangled the life out of you.

[TheBatman072]

everyone has a right to their opinion about the suit, whether it be good or bad.


You're absolutely right.

[screena]

I'm just going to repost what I said earlier in the thread:


"It's pretty much EXACTLY like the old suit. Except there is now spandex(or what looks like spandex) inbetween the armor plates. And the neck and symbol(possibly) are different.

That's it. Some people are *****ing for nothing. Nolan has given us a combo of the movie rubber armor and the comic book spandex, one that looks GREAT, along with a fully moveable neck and head(from the looks of it) and some of you are STILL *****ing.

Unbe-****ing-lievable."

sorry you had to repost, actually i did not read all 33 pages of this thread.

but well, i´m not STILL *****ing, i was totally excited until this picture was released. and as i said, i am still looking forward to the movie. and i do not blame nolan at all.

i just don´t like this suit.

and i´m afraid i´m not going to like it even if we get a trailer with harry potter where we see batman moving his head (and only his head) left and right and up and down for ten minutes.

[Memphis Slim]

You do know that it's armor plates OVER fabric right?

Yes.....but it's still rubber.

[afan]

Realistically, Batman would have to be decked out like a SWAT guy.


Depends.
If you put The Batman character in a film akin to Se7en or Silence of the Lambs, the armor would be rediculously superfluous.

Even in many balls to the walls action films characters have satisfactorily survived grand scale mayhem without the need for armor. Nolan chooses to deliver an armored Batman, but there is no cinematic law that dictates the necessity.

[Bandyt]

No way. The Joker denial was A LOT worse. There were people in those threads that were still claiming it was all fake! Even like a week later!


Denial so thick it grabbed you by the throat and just strangled the life out of you.

Oh, that's right, I waited until all the negative-nancies got it out of their system and went to ***** about something else and then came back into the discussion. hehe...nancies..

[TheBatman072]

Yes.....but it's still rubber.


...


I think I just had a small stroke.

[RustyCage]

No. Keeping an open mind would be saying "Hmm. Okay. I see where they're going with this. Not too keen on it, don't really dislike it either, but I'll just go for the ride and see where it takes me."


You, are NOT keeping an open mind.

I beg to differ. I'm simply saying the suit could change to something I appreciate more later on in the movie, given an official statement from the past. How is that closed minded?

[RustyCage]

Yes.....but it's still rubber.

What would you rather it be?

[Bandyt]

sorry you had to repost, actually i did not read all 33 pages of this thread.

but well, i´m not STILL *****ing, i was totally excited until this picture was released. and as i said, i am still looking forward to the movie. and i do not blame nolan at all.

i just don´t like this suit.

and i´m afraid i´m not going to like it even if we get a trailer with harry potter where we see batman moving his head (and only his head) left and right and up and down for ten minutes.

silly billy, trailers aren't 10 minutes long...

[Steelsheen]

everyone has a right to their opinion about the suit, whether it be good or bad.

bears repeating.

[Tojo]

Milkman you think this is the suit he'll have at the beggining and then he get's it refined halfway through? I am under the assumption that this IS the one he wears in the second half, and that tge BB suit is theone he ditches.

I love the functionality of the new suit(especially the cowl, long time coming), but aesthetically i dislike it. Just how i feel. It has too much of a sci-fi, hi-tech look to it.

And to certain other posters, people can ***** and whine all they want about the new suit if they are so inclined. It's their decision. If you like great, good for you, just stop stressing at those who are complaining and only read the positive comments if it makes you less angry. It's only a goddamn movie costume who gives a **** what people think about it.

[JStorm]

Meh.

Like the cowl, though.

[TheBatman072]

I beg to differ. I'm simply saying the suit could change to something I appreciate more later on in the movie, given an official statement from the past. How is that closed minded?


Becuase you're grasping for straws and trying to reason this suit away.

"Maybe if I pray REALLY hard it'll just go away."

It's not going to happen. I'm willing to bet this week's paycheck that we'll have the Begins suit for a while in the movie, it gets trashed somehow, and then we get the NEW suit. THIS suit.

[Bandyt]

I beg to differ. I'm simply saying the suit could change to something I appreciate more later on in the movie, given an official statement from the past. How is that closed minded?

Being hopeful and keeping your fingers crossed and having an open mind are two different things. An open mind means you're willing to accept it either way and be at peace with it.

[Super Kal]

remember, he still wears the other suit at first, so we'll still have that one to watch for a while

[RustyCage]

Depends.
If you put The Batman character in a film akin to Se7en or Silence of the Lambs, the armor would be rediculously superfluous.

That's the thing though, this is a Batman movie...

[3 Dev Adam]

I'm still waiting for the Hi-Def version, so I can find more stuff to bash on that HORRID suit.

[JStorm]

The suit looks more tactical.

[RustyCage]

I don't love it but I feel it fits well with the direction the movies seem to be going. And it is "The Dark Knight" so the armor makes sense... in a way.

NICE! That's a good way to look at it! :woot:

[JStorm]

I'm still waiting for the Hi-Def version, so I can find more stuff to bash on that HORRID suit.

That's funny.

[Sam18]

I wanna see him fight 20 people with that.

[Super Kal]

I'm waiting for the HD version so I can fool with the colors... that's gonna be fun

[Bandyt]

For those who don't like it, his swishy cape will probably be covering it most of the time anyway, so no need to fret.

[TheBatman072]

I'm still waiting for the Hi-Def version, so I can find more stuff to bash on that HORRID suit.


http://www.tabersbait.com/Pictures/tabers-walleyeblackyellow1.jpg

[baronghede]

Might as well repost this here.

When I found out Batman would have a new suit in THE DARK KNIGHT, I thought "Oh, good. Delving into the THEMES, they'll armor him up, cover the armor with SOMETHING, make him look more like a Bat-Man, and less like a robot."

Nope. That would have been too hard. It would have required too much "holding back" for these creative/design people. So instead, they took a page out of Joel Schumacher's "busier batsuits", and made him look even "busier" than he was in BEGINS, and that much less like a "creature of the night".

I can't wait for the innovative new scene where Lucious Fox is like "Hey Bruce, check this NEW ARMOR we designed, even though the military poo-pooed our last batch!"

I'l try to be objective in my assessment of this picture:

1. The cowl is all right. If, however, that neck is "segmented" like every futuristic "design" I've ever seen, it's going to end up looking like crap combined with the smoother cowl.

2. The symbol looks...interesting. Wondering what the multiple levels are. Probably just armor. I don't mind that, but why so many levels to it? Is that their answer to the "oval" concept from the comics?

3. Wait a minute...even his ab armor has "levels" to it? Wonder what it's gonna DO. Something cool, I'll bet.

4. The gauntlets I can live with, even if they are a little busy/shiny. The brass knuckle aspect is ok, but they couldn't be hidden?

5. The belt is...the gold belt. Whatever.

6. Oh, I LOVE how the crotch armor is lined and segmented. I'm sure there's a good reason for that. Should draw plenty of attention to his package.

7. What the HELL is going on with the leg armoring? I guess for max protection he needs to have SPLIT armor pieces over the mesh leg armor? How clever.

8. Also love the bullseyes on his knees. Thought that went out with the bat-shaped kneepads of FOREVER/BATMAN & ROBIN? Apparently not.

9. The boots still don't have the distinctive shape, and are fairly boring compared to the rest of that robotsuit, don't you think? Shouldn't they have some zigzags or circles carved into them?

10. The cape looks shorter. That can't be good.

Does it look like armor? Sure. So what? That's kind of WHY it doesn't work so much. If that wasn't Batman standing there, it'd be cool, it'd be functional. If it didn't belong to a person who's trying to look like a creature of the night. But it does.

The fact that some of you are head over heels for this only reinforces my belief that most of you will simply swallow anything Nolan puts out.

It's WAY too busy. It's obvious that he's a man. It looks more segmented and robotic than the previous Batsuit, and that much LESS like a creature of the night.

I pray he's in the shadows during most of THE DARK KNIGHT. Because ANYONE who sees him will INSTANTLY be able to tell he's a man wearing armor. And you people *****ed when Joel Schumacher added nipples. Oh, but he can turn his head! HOW CLEVER! Because there couldn't POSSIBLY be a way to have his head turn and not make him look like a robot in the process!

Hint: Helmet and neckpiece...it's very simple, costume designers should have figured it out YEARS ago. Fans did.

There is one hope, and that is that this is Batman's MOTORCYCLE SUIT, and not his permanent one. Then I could stomach it. Please God, let that just be his "motorcycle attachments".

Help me, God, I agree with The Guard.

[dark_b]

I think this is the suit he'll have at the beginning of the film and it changes again - Alfred could make a reference how Bruce modified his original design he put together in BB.but this is something that bruce coudltn do in hes cave. this is a compeltely different suit.

[JStorm]

I'm getting a bad first impression.

Things change, however.

[shapeshifter]

I'm still waiting for the Hi-Def version, so I can find more stuff to bash on that HORRID suit.

some people just can't be happy with anything

[ghost_x]

What kind of retort was that?

I was just explaining why what I said couldn't be immediately shot down, there's no reason to kick up flames.

It was a retort on an equal intellectual standard as your original point. Your undertaking what every person on these boards has ever done when delivered news they can't accept, find reasons to justify why it wouldn't be true or how it is temporary. I've seen this happen for years, you'll whine for a few months about the suit, hell maybe even until the films release, than upon viewing will commend the crew at how effective and plausible the suit was in the movies context.

[RustyCage]

Being hopeful and keeping your fingers crossed and having an open mind are two different things. An open mind means you're willing to accept it either way and be at peace with it.

Oh no, I'm definitely up for that. Just like I was with Begins (which I said somewhere else on the boards like 20 minutes ago).

But guess what? I'm still keeping my mind open to a change in the suit, something that immensely satisfies me instead of just having one that I 'accept'. That's all.

You guys are so hung up on this denial flame game that you're trying to label me before you even know what I'm talking about. Telling people it's denial to have high hopes for possibilities in the film is what's closed minded, frankly. :whatever:

[RustyCage]

It was a retort on an equal intellectual standard as your original point. Your undertaking what every person on these boards has ever done when delivered news they can't accept, find reasons to justify why it wouldn't be true or how it is temporary. I've seen this happen for years, you'll whine for a few months about the suit, hell maybe even until the films release, than upon viewing will commend the crew at how effective and plausible the suit was in the movies context.

Not really, I'm just hopeful. Sorry that's a crime. :whatever:

[shapeshifter]

I'm wondering if the same people that are raging about the suit are the same people who raged about the tumbler. It seems like getting into comic film making is quite a dangerous field for those who are not very self ashured.

[Bandyt]

Oh no, I'm definitely up for that. Just like I was with Begins (which I said somewhere else on the boards like 20 minutes ago).

But guess what? I'm still keeping my mind open to a change in the suit, something that immensely satisfies me instead of just having one that I 'accept'. That's all.

You guys are so hung up on this denial flame game that you're trying to label me before you even know what I'm talking about. Telling people it's denial to have high hopes for possibilities in the film is what's closed minded, frankly. :whatever:

Maybe you need to learn to articulate your arugment better?

[ghost_x]

Not really, I'm just hopeful. Sorry that's a crime. :whatever:

Your hopeful that they will replace the upgraded Batsuit because you don't like it?....right :dry:

[TheBatman072]

Your hopeful that they will replace the upgraded Batsuit because you don't like it?....right :dry:

that immensely satisfies me


Sure sounds like it, doesn't it?

[Milkman95]

I must be off my rocker because my first impression was simply BAD ASS!!

HUGE improvement over the Begins suit, especially the cowl. This guy is fighting a war, and he's armed and ready.

[dark_b]

I must be off my rocker because my first impression was simply BAD ASS!!

HUGE improvement over the Begins suit, especially the cowl. This guy is fighting a war, and he's armed and ready.and he has a bike.:dry:

whait a minute.... he looks like a dark knight :ninja::wow:

[swifty]

I like the new suite even though it's a bit robocopish. I love the new cowl, they finally fixed the neck area which I thought it was to thick in BB.

[ryan dube]

where the hell are the nipples? dammit!!!!!!!!

[StarvingArtist]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills....how the heck can any batman fan look at that suit and say they love it as a regular continuity suit? If anything, it's reminiscent of what Bats wore when he fought Predator (in the comics not the lame ass Sandy Collora movie.) Albeit what he wore in that comic was freakin awesome, but it was very specialized and exceptional, and more to the point...it was IN THE COMICS. What the hell is so hard about staying faithful to the look in the comics? If it could be done with Iron Man and Spider-Man...why is Batman so difficult?

The object is to try and create imaginative explanations for WHY he looks the way he does in the comics... not completely make up your own thing just because you can't figure out how or why it would work. Nolan was on the right track for a while. I mean c'mon, all you have to do is take the batman 89 suit and make some obvious aesthetic and technical refinements and boom, you're in business.

[JStorm]

The Batumbler is gonna kill!

[CFE]

As much fun as it is seeing the new developments, coming onto the forum whenever news hits is like walking over a huge mine field. It's a nightmare sometimes.

I like the suit...and as has most likely been said enough by now...The film's not even out yet.

I fail to see the gratification in ripping a new a**hole out of something you haven't seen in action yet. It happened with the BB suit, and yet people seemed to get over that when BB finally came to theatres.

Why can't we learn from that mistake and not have a repeat for this?

As a single photo of a static Batman, the suit kicks ass. I'm sticking to that until I see him moving in it.

After all, you've got to keep in mind this is for a Batman movie...people are getting fussy as if DC's gonna put him in that suit in the comics now...

For the MOVIE...it's fine.

CFE

[Spidey]

I'm getting a bad first impression.

Things change, however.

My sentiments, exactly. I'm trying to like it, but I just...don't. I'll let my opinion simmer for a while longer.

[Delete]

Depends.
If you put The Batman character in a film akin to Se7en or Silence of the Lambs, the armor would be rediculously superfluous.


So if Batman happens to run into Hannibal Lecter I guess everyone who hates the suit will turn out to be right.

[afan]

That's the thing though, this is a Batman movie...


And..... that means what?

[TheBatman072]

Why can't we learn from that mistake and not have a repeat for this?


Becuase people, as a whole, are like lemmings.


Just ****ing retarded.

[ABVH]

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2129/tronbmia8.jpg

[CFE]

That means for the film, it's fine...it doesn't mean DC's gonna put that suit into the comics.

for the MOVIE, it works.

CFE

[Milkman95]

As much fun as it is seeing the new developments, coming onto the forum whenever news hits is like walking over a huge mine field. It's a nightmare sometimes.

I like the suit...and as has most likely been said enough by now...The film's not even out yet.

I fail to see the gratification in ripping a new a**hole out of something you haven't seen in action yet. It happened with the BB suit, and yet people seemed to get over that when BB finally came to theatres.

Why can't we learn from that mistake and not have a repeat for this?

As a single photo of a static Batman, the suit kicks ass. I'm sticking to that until I see him moving in it.

After all, you've got to keep in mind this is for a Batman movie...people are getting fussy as if DC's gonna put him in that suit in the comics now...

For the MOVIE...it's fine.

CFE

Yup - this is an outstanding photo of Batman - on top of a GPD car with his head turned, while the suit is more "robotic", but streamlined at the same time. Love the logo change to the movie and signal logo as well.

[Bandyt]

Hmm, the only projectile I would find reasonable coming from the suit is a (Ok, I resisted a very gay joke at this point) bat-a-grapple-hook as I like to call it.

[TheBatman072]

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2129/tronbmia8.jpg

Yep. Totally different. Thanks for the side-by-side comparison of two VERY different suits. : )

[ghost_x]

Becuase people, as a whole, are like lemmings.


Just ****ing retarded.

Love it, may I sig it?

[JStorm]

Joel Schumacher is off the hook.

[CFE]

Becuase people, as a whole, are like lemmings.


Just ****ing retarded.

tell me about it...

Ugh, I can't even imagine the implosion seeing the new incarnation of the Tumbler's gonna set off...

CFE

[TheBatman072]

Love it, may I sig it?


Go for it. : )

[screena]

sometimes i wonder how a realistic spidey suit would look like :huh:

yeah, i know, this is something completely different. spiderman has superpowers and is immune to gunshots...or is he?

i just like the idea of batman NOT NEEDING this kind of armor. or at least having him wear it UNDER his suit. what is so wrong about that?

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Here is the pic BOF has posted, any chance of finding the hi-res somewhere?
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/8421/tdknewbatcostumeew2007tg2.jpg



The suit looks allot better in this shot..

could be the crappy scan that is putting me off.

[dark_b]

i hope that people are aware that maybe a lot of people will not like the helmet-cowl.

this is how i think it will look. the cowl and neck are seperate.
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3580/newbatmansuityh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Baba Ghanoush]

After letting it sink in overnight I can still unequivocally say I LOVE this freaking new suit!!!

[Rezzo]

sometimes i wonder how a realistic spidey suit would look like :huh:

yeah, i know, this is something completely different. spiderman has superpowers and is immune to gunshots...or is he?

i just like the idea of batman NOT NEEDING this kind of armor. or at least having him wear it UNDER his suit. what is so wrong about that?

The better question is why is it so wrong from him to wear the armor on top?

[JStorm]

The suit looks allot better in this shot..

could be the crappy scan that is putting me off.

And Gordon's gonna be pissed!! Batman lost all respect for police property.

[CFE]

I guess I can understand the reservations. I mean, this costume renovation is far more extensive than say that of the transition between B89 and Returns.

But I think it, like the BB suit, will rub off on people. And when we finally get to see Bale whoop Ledger ass in that thing, all will be right with the Bat-Board once more.

...Until BB3...oh boy.

CFE

[JTIZZLEVILLE]

This entire thing sounds like the entire "teh puffy" and "crease" arguments that we got when Begins pictures came out.

Then the movie came out and the suit looked niether puffy nor had creases in it you could see.

[dark_b]

sometimes i wonder how a realistic spidey suit would look like :huh:

yeah, i know, this is something completely different. spiderman has superpowers and is immune to gunshots...or is he?

i just like the idea of batman NOT NEEDING this kind of armor. or at least having him wear it UNDER his suit. what is so wrong about that?THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS

its about what kind of a workd you make. nolasn gotham is completely different than raimis new york. got it?

[breyfogle_rules]

When you abstract the body details, you can see that as far as the silhouette goes, we are getting the most faithful Batman look yet.

Hopefully when movement and shadows are added to the suit we get more of an impression like so...

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/825/batsgoodoc3.jpg

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

And Gordon's gonna be pissed!! Batman lost all respect for police property.



He never did have respect for police property.. I'm starting to love it..like the superman suit before it..it had to sink in first.

[screena]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills....how the heck can any batman fan look at that suit and say they love it as a regular continuity suit? If anything, it's reminiscent of what Bats wore when he fought Predator (in the comics not the lame ass Sandy Collora movie.) Albeit what he wore in that comic was freakin awesome, but it was very specialized and exceptional, and more to the point...it was IN THE COMICS. What the hell is so hard about staying faithful to the look in the comics? If it could be done with Iron Man and Spider-Man...why is Batman so difficult?

The object is to try and create imaginative explanations for WHY he looks the way he does in the comics... not completely make up your own thing just because you can't figure out how or why it would work. Nolan was on the right track for a while. I mean c'mon, all you have to do is take the batman 89 suit and make some obvious aesthetic and technical refinements and boom, you're in business.

actually it reminds me of batman vs aliens 2

and as you said this is way over the top for a regular continuity suit.

[TheBatman072]

The better question is why is it so wrong from him to wear the armor on top?


That IS a better question.

But an even better one is:

Who the **** cares?

He's got armor. He's got "spandex." He can move his head.


WHAT MORE DO YOU PEOPLE WANT!?

[ghost_x]

sometimes i wonder how a realistic spidey suit would look like :huh:

yeah, i know, this is something completely different. spiderman has superpowers and is immune to gunshots...or is he?

i just like the idea of batman NOT NEEDING this kind of armor. or at least having him wear it UNDER his suit. what is so wrong about that?

Spiderman isn't immune to bullets. The Spiderman suit is also constructed with logical and scientific reasoning. The fabric that the suit is made from is thin enough so that he is still able to wall crawl without the gloves getting in the way.

[CFE]

This entire thing sounds like the entire "teh puffy" and "crease" arguments that we got when Begins pictures came out.

Then the movie came out and the suit looked niether puffy nor had creases in it you could see.

Exactly. That's why I stay away from bashing what the filmmakers are giving us. Because you know that the bashers from BB ate their words when BB came out.

I have a good feeling, and hopefully, that the same will happen for TDK bashers.

CFE

[Bandyt]

I guess I can understand the reservations. I mean, this costume renovation is far more extensive than say that of the transition between B89 and Returns.

But I think it, like the BB suit, will rub off on people. And when we finally get to see Bale whoop Ledger ass in that thing, all will be right with the Bat-Board once more.

...Until BB3...oh boy.

CFE

When you said that it reminded me of the sky surfind scene in Batman and Robin...are you trying to make me cry?

[BatFan85]

I hate all these comments of..."I hate the suit....it's too technical.....why does he look like robocop?" People it's the first image, and not a super one at that. So, please wait until you actually see the suit in good lighting and setting before you go off about it. It's different...give it time.

[Rezzo]

That IS a better question.

But an even better one is:

Who the **** cares?

He's got armor. He's got "spandex." He can move his head.


WHAT MORE DO YOU PEOPLE WANT!?

Well obviously the people that are complaining about the new suit care but I dig the new look :up:

[CFE]

When you said that it reminded me of the sky surfind scene in Batman and Robin...are you trying to make me cry?

Sorry. I have a fondness for that scene though...

as agonybooth brilliantly stated, Batman sky-surfing makes me wanna Do the Dew. lol.

Hey, I coulda said "Bat-Skates," so you're gettin' off light.

CFE

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

You can't please everybody..hell i'm still not a fan of the cowl..but i will wait to see it in motion.

[CFE]

I hate all these comments of..."I hate the suit....it's too technical.....why does he look like robocop?" People it's the first image, and not a super one at that. So, please wait until you actually see the suit in good lighting and setting before you go off about it. It's different...give it time.

thank you :o

CFE

[Flash-er]

The first thing that this reminded me of was the outfit that bats wore in batman vs. Predator. Although, I'm sure it offers higher mobility, it LOOKS clunkier. I LOVE the helmet/cowl, but other than that, it's a thumbs down.

[JStorm]

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2129/tronbmia8.jpg

Batman loves Tron.

[Milkman95]

That IS a better question.

But an even better one is:

Who the **** cares?

He's got armor. He's got "spandex." He can move his head.


WHAT MORE DO YOU PEOPLE WANT!?

You nailed it.

Improvements:

-Cowl and neck are now separate.
-Symbol
-"Chainmail" fabric under the armor.
-More streamlined.

[Bandyt]

Sorry. I have a fondness for that scene though...

as agonybooth brilliantly stated, Batman sky-surfing makes me wanna Do the Dew. lol.

Hey, I coulda said "Bat-Skates," so you're gettin' off light.

CFE

The sky-surfing scene would have been better with horrible injuries or at least some other way of breaking the fall like a bat-a-grapple-hook. I liked the scene when I was 10 though. Which was probably the target audience.

[Steelsheen]

i hope that people are aware that maybe a lot of people will not like the helmet-cowl.

this is how i think it will look. the cowl and neck are seperate.
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3580/newbatmansuityh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

yeah you can see the gap between the nape and the back of the neck from that shot.

thats the only thing i'm a little worried about. i dont want him to look too mechanical like GG. the matte finish on the TDK suit has certainly dispelled that, its just that cowl helmet might look a little awkward in some shots.

[screena]

The better question is why is it so wrong from him to wear the armor on top?


uhmmm...because there is this ongoing comic called BATMAM (you might know it) where he uses to wear bits of amor (if any) UNDER the suit.

but lets not have this old discussion...my fault, i started it.

[dark_b]

You can't please everybody..hell i'm still not a fan of the cowl..but i will wait to see it in motion.there is a big shadow on the cowl. basicly it looks the same from that angle.

whats so different ? :dry:

[CFE]

You can't please everybody..hell i'm still not a fan of the cowl..but i will wait to see it in motion.

That's what I'm saying.

I mean, when the photos of Bale in the first suit came out, it was all "his neck is too big" and "Arghh cape clasps."

But that so wasn't the case when you actually saw him fighting, gliding and doing his thing.

TDK Batman looks like he's actually in the trenches of an urban one man war on crime...not like a costume.

An author named Chip Kidd once said about Batman and Superman that it's wrong to call what they wear costumes. Costumes are what little kids buy at the discount mart for Trick or Treating. What Bruce and Clark wear are their uniforms; Much like the chain mail of King Arthur.

In that regard, Nolan and Co. nailed it.

CFE

[Milkman95]

I'm very interested in seeing a straight-on shot to see the armor and the sybmol better.

I'm also curious about his new gloves and guantlets - they're weapons now? Outstanding.

[Keyser Soze]

The suit gets a big thumbs up from me.

I don't understand where so much of the hate is coming from. I can kinda get it if you hated the "Begins" suit, and all the previous movie incarnations of the Batsuit, as this departure isn't radical enough to make it more comic-like.

But I don't get the people who liked the Begins suit acting like they've screwed the pooch on the look this time round. It has the same foundation as the Begins suit, while fixing many of it's major problems. MOBLIITY! At last, we've got mobility, to the point where the Batman on screen is actually going to be able to convincingly be a world-class fighter. I happened to like the Begins look, and "The Dark Knight" Batsuit is expanding on that original idea, and improving on it.

[Keyser Soze]

That's what I'm saying.

I mean, when the photos of Bale in the first suit came out, it was all "his neck is too big" and "Arghh cape clasps."

But that so wasn't the case when you actually saw him fighting, gliding and doing his thing.

TDK Batman looks like he's actually in the trenches of an urban one man war on crime...not like a costume.

An author named Chip Kidd once said about Batman and Superman that it's wrong to call what they wear costumes. Costumes are what little kids buy at the discount mart for Trick or Treating. What Bruce and Clark wear are their uniforms; Much like the chain mail of King Arthur.

In that regard, Nolan and Co. nailed it.

CFE


Good post!

[Abe Rush]

I can honestly say that in my perfect Batman movie, I would never go for a suit like this...
On the other hand, this is Nolan's version and I guess this fits his vision of the character. I am excited about the movie as a whole, but this costume doesn't please me now and I doubt it is going to grow on me. This is going to be the 6th Batman movie in the last 19 years and I always prefered the idea of a "retro look" to those armored Batmen. All in all, I still can't wait for this movie to come out... even if the suit doesn't satisfy me.

[Bandyt]

uhmmm...because there is this ongoing comic called BATMAM (you might know it) where he uses to wear bits of amor (if any) UNDER the suit.

but lets not have this old discussion...my fault, i started it.


This is a movie.

[Batty Belfry]

That's what I'm saying.

I mean, when the photos of Bale in the first suit came out, it was all "his neck is too big" and "Arghh cape clasps."

But that so wasn't the case when you actually saw him fighting, gliding and doing his thing.

TDK Batman looks like he's actually in the trenches of an urban one man war on crime...not like a costume.

An author named Chip Kidd once said about Batman and Superman that it's wrong to call what they wear costumes. Costumes are what little kids buy at the discount mart for Trick or Treating. What Bruce and Clark wear are their uniforms; Much like the chain mail of King Arthur.

In that regard, Nolan and Co. nailed it.

CFE

:up: Great points you bring up.

[RedIsNotBlue]

This thread needs some Ahnold.

http://www.artnet.com/magazine/FEATURES/kostabi/Images/kostabi6-6-22.jpg

What killed the dinosaurs? The Ice Age!

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I'm very interested in seeing a straight-on shot to see the armor and the sybmol better.

I'm also curious about his new gloves and guantlets - they're weapons now? Outstanding.



Perhaps the gauntlets Are mini Batarangs or something, as she said they are retractable.. interesting idea.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

This thread needs some Ahnold.

http://www.artnet.com/magazine/FEATURES/kostabi/Images/kostabi6-6-22.jpg

What killed the dinosaurs? The Ice Age!



In other words..

Chill.

:D

[CFE]

The suit gets a big thumbs up from me.

I don't understand where so much of the hate is coming from. I can kinda get it if you hated the "Begins" suit, and all the previous movie incarnations of the Batsuit, as this departure isn't radical enough to make it more comic-like.

But I don't get the people who liked the Begins suit acting like they've screwed the pooch on the look this time round. It has the same foundation as the Begins suit, while fixing many of it's major problems. MOBLIITY! At last, we've got mobility, to the point where the Batman on screen is actually going to be able to convincingly be a world-class fighter. I happened to like the Begins look, and "The Dark Knight" Batsuit is expanding on that original idea, and improving on it.

Yeah, that's so weird to me...

It's like "Oh we hate the BB suit, we want the comic suit." to "Oh we hate the TDK suit, we want the BB suit."

yeah, watch the exact same thing if god forbid they want to change it up again for BB3.

If it already looks great from a scanned image, I can't wait to see it in all it's glory. I'm sure for the haters that it'll look better as more photos come in.

CFE

[dark_b]

The suit gets a big thumbs up from me.

I don't understand where so much of the hate is coming from. I can kinda get it if you hated the "Begins" suit, and all the previous movie incarnations of the Batsuit, as this departure isn't radical enough to make it more comic-like.

But I don't get the people who liked the Begins suit acting like they've screwed the pooch on the look this time round. It has the same foundation as the Begins suit, while fixing many of it's major problems. MOBLIITY! At last, we've got mobility, to the point where the Batman on screen is actually going to be able to convincingly be a world-class fighter. I happened to like the Begins look, and "The Dark Knight" Batsuit is expanding on that original idea, and improving on it.i think some people complain just to complain. maybe they are scared.

[Retroman]

The new suit looks a sleeker version of the pre-batman Nomex suit. This might explain why Christian Bale is less buff in appearance. The size he was for BB would probably be very uncomfortable in this new suit.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3397/beginssuitprototypus4.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3023/theofficialmovieguide01hy8.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7679/batsuitartofbbxb0.jpg

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8742/tdkbatmannewsuit3qn1cy2.jpg

My gripes are that i wish the tone could have been darker than it is now and than it would less robotic. But i guess that's also part of the awesomeness of it. I'm ver interested in seeing what the front looks like and how this will look on film.Wonder if there will be a scene where we see Bruce modifying the suit?

[ToddIsDead]

I can't get over just how ugly this new suit is. It's not nearly as bad as "The Joke" but it's pretty damn disappointing.

[TheBatman072]

In other words..

Chill.

:D


I thought it was kind of cool when Arnold said that whilst freezing random people.


Don't know why. Just did.

[Steelsheen]

He never did have respect for police property.. I'm starting to love it..like the superman suit before it..it had to sink in first.

well, with that i never got used to the SR suit no matter how hard i tried to make it sink ;)


I'm very interested in seeing a straight-on shot to see the armor and the sybmol better.

I'm also curious about his new gloves and guantlets - they're weapons now? Outstanding.
yup. lean, mean fighting machine ;)

[C. Zejr]

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4080/tdkbatmannewsuit3ao2.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8304/batmantdkhighres2vo6.jpg

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Perhaps people just are not ready for change..with every Batfilm to date the Cowl has been attached in that Classic movie way..And now its more of a helmet.. as with everything..it needs time to settle down.

[Flash-er]

uhmmm...because there is this ongoing comic called BATMAM (you might know it) where he uses to wear bits of amor (if any) UNDER the suit.

but lets not have this old discussion...my fault, i started it.

Ooo... tell me of this "BATMAM" comic. I would love to know more. is this like the adventures of a middle aged woman in a bat suit who has Boy Scouts help her across the street, after which they say "there you go, Batmam." I would love to see this. :whatever: just givin' ya crap. :cwink:

[The Joker]

I love it :up:

Bale looks badass in it :batty:

[Narsil]

I think its definetly the motorcycle-suit, I mean the cape is a lot shorter, the cowl is modeled after mororcycle helmet and look at the gloves......
To me it´s clear that he will pick up this suit after the tumbler is destroit, and carrys it the second half of the movie or only in the climax......

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

well, with that i never got used to the SR suit no matter how hard i tried to make it sink ;)





I did, i had to remember that things change.

[Cobblepot]

Can't wait to see this on screen, it's funny I always said the cowl has to be a separate piece apart from the neck!

[Super Kal]

Joel Schumacher is off the hook.
i think not...

bat nipples and the bat credit card still is the worst.

[Bandyt]

I can honestly say that in my perfect Batman movie, I would never go for a suit like this...
On the other hand, this is Nolan's version and I guess this fits his vision of the character. I am excited about the movie as a whole, but this costume doesn't please me now and I doubt it is going to grow on me. This is going to be the 6th Batman movie in the last 19 years and I always prefered the idea of a "retro look" to those armored Batmen. All in all, I still can't wait for this movie to come out... even if the suit doesn't satisfy me.

Good example of an opinionated open-minded post.

[Mysterio]

the suit is atrocious. there was nothing wrong with the one in BB. now it's like Tron Batman.

[RedIsNotBlue]

i think not...

bat nipples and the bat credit card still is the worst.

Don't forgot teh jiggly ass cheek shots.

[Keyser Soze]

i think some people complain just to complain. maybe they are scared.

It does seem awful strange that is the same usual suspects who've hated every other recent development that have - complete coincidentally of course - concluded to hate this too.

Not saying there's any grand conspiracy or anything. I could just as easily say it's the people who've liked everything else so far that seem to like the suit. But someone could make an interesting argument about all this - judging the movie before it's released, "choosing a side" a year in advance.

I'm sure if someone kept a tab on this kinda thing, it'd be likely that when the movie's released, much of the negative feedback is going to be coming from the same people nitpicking over visual details now.

[screena]

The suit gets a big thumbs up from me.

I don't understand where so much of the hate is coming from. I can kinda get it if you hated the "Begins" suit, and all the previous movie incarnations of the Batsuit, as this departure isn't radical enough to make it more comic-like.

But I don't get the people who liked the Begins suit acting like they've screwed the pooch on the look this time round. It has the same foundation as the Begins suit, while fixing many of it's major problems. MOBLIITY! At last, we've got mobility, to the point where the Batman on screen is actually going to be able to convincingly be a world-class fighter. I happened to like the Begins look, and "The Dark Knight" Batsuit is expanding on that original idea, and improving on it.

i did not like any of the film suits so far, but still i enjoied the movies (yeah, all of them) because they were batman movies and i am a batman fan. and i´m sure TDK is going to be the best bat-movie so far. but still, i do not like the new suit, because it simply does not look anything like a batsuit. just my opinion. (toy-)desingers use to think way too futuristic. i never understood just whats so difficult about making a batsuit that actually looks like a batsuit.

[CFE]

I think its definetly the motorcycle-suit, I mean the cape is a lot shorter, the cowl is modeled after mororcycle helmet and look at the gloves......
To me it´s clear that he will pick up this suit after the tumbler is destroit, and carrys it the second half of the movie or only in the climax......

It's weird though because, for what bit of the EW news on the suit that we see, the mag and Hemming are playing it up as if it's just a brand new suit.

You don't think they would've made a comment on it if it were just the Batcycle suit?

Plus the idea of Bruce getting a whole new suit JUST for using the Batcycle is laughable. Almost as much as the pointless inclusion of the Silver Suits at the end of B&R. Making me think that there's more to this suit than just wearing it when he rides the Bike.

CFE

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Don't forgot teh jiggly ass cheek shots.

I didn't mind Bat girls shot.

:o

[Flash-er]

See, what's funny is that now Batman will be able to move his head in multiple directions, yet the figure based on the movie will NOT. :ninja:

[dark_b]

It does seem awful strange that is the same usual suspects who've hated every other recent development that have - complete coincidentally of course - concluded to hate this too.

Not saying there's any grand conspiracy or anything. I could just as easily say it's the people who've liked everything else so far that seem to like the suit. But someone could make an interesting argument about all this - judging the movie before it's released, "choosing a side" a year in advance.

I'm sure if someone kept a tab on this kinda thing, it'd be likely that when the movie's released, much of the negative feedback is going to be coming from the same people nitpicking over visual details now.i thinks it was similar with the black spidey suit.
i dont even remember anyone complaining about the black suit after the movie was realesed.

fightining in that suit will be peace of cake :cwink:

[Keyser Soze]

the suit is atrocious. there was nothing wrong with the one in BB. now it's like Tron Batman.

Again...how can you like the "Batman Begins" suit and not like this one? It's the same...basic...look!

I liked the Begins suit, but you're wrong. There was something wrong with it. Lack of mobility - something plenty complained about, and a curse that's dogged every Batman film since 1989. Nolan and co. have found a way to get round that, while keeping the basic visuals of the previous film intact.

This isn't "Tron Batman". It's the Begins suit...only better.

[screena]

This is a movie.

just answered a question.

[Keyser Soze]

i thinks it was similar with the black spidey suit.
i dont even remember anyone complaining about the black suit after the movie was realesed.

fightining in that suit will be peace of cake :cwink:

Well, to be fair, when the movie came out, the black suit was the least of their worries...:woot:

[Super Kal]

I think is "meh" just because of all those little designs on it... it's too busy, too cluttered.

[Lobster Charlie]

Slept on it last night. First impression was I didn't like it so much, but it's definitely grown on me, like I thought it would. I do like the second pic more, with him standing on the car so we can see his entire body. Still a bit busy but...I'm digging it.

[dark_b]

Again...how can you like the "Batman Begins" suit and not like this one? It's the same...basic...look!

I liked the Begins suit, but you're wrong. There was something wrong with it. Lack of mobility - something plenty complained about, and a curse that's dogged every Batman film since 1989. Nolan and co. have found a way to get round that, while keeping the basic visuals of the previous film intact.

This isn't "Tron Batman". It's the Begins suit...only better.plus hte rubber folds.
this wont now happen in the shouler are and the abs area anymore.

[Milkman95]

Some of the main gripes about the BB suit was the huge neck, cape clasps, and how bulky it was.

All these issues have been fixed, plus it's probably easier to move in and it's less bulky. How can people hate this, I don't get it.........

[Ring Deacon]

What I still find funny is why did it take 18 years to figure out how to make the cowl in a way that the actor can move his head? Hell fans that make their own costumes have know how to do it for just about as long. Shows that the boys in Hollywood need to take a page from the fans every now and then.

[Mysterio]

I hate all these comments of..."I hate the suit....it's too technical.....why does he look like robocop?" People it's the first image, and not a super one at that. So, please wait until you actually see the suit in good lighting and setting before you go off about it. It's different...give it time.please. it's the freaking suit plain as day. how many images do you need to see? i only need to see this one, and it looks horrible.

[superkong 500]

I don't understand why some people say it looks bulkier. On the contrary it deosn't look neather bulky or clunky for that matter. I has a futuristic urban warzone armor look/feel to it but with fabric that is streamlined underneath. The only ting raised is the armor but you can see the mesh/fabric underneath and it stretches over the body so you have both the spandex and armor.

The protection and the sleekness at the same time. That is the biggest reason why we should get a full frontal pic, just like this one but from a frontal angle so we can see that batman looks slimmer sleeker more agile and at the same time well protected. There's really no robocop look about this suit. Only the metalic/mechanical looking pieces but since is divided in many smaller pieces you can see the slim silhoutte beneath.

I liked the begins suit I like it more than this one interms of design simply because it looksmore organic. However The begins suit on top was just one piece or rubber that bulged and neglected the wearer of moving smoothly or gracefully.

So the good thing about this one should be that it allows for far better movility and display of agility and flexibility which is a huge plus. Apart from the fact that he'll be able to move his neck completely. Now my worry is that nolan shoots the damn fight scenes and cuts them the same way he did in BB. Because if he does then it will be a waste to make a new more flexible suit for nothing. Lets just hope that nolan pulls the camera back and doesn't chop the fights to nothing, but a blur during editing.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Some of the main gripes about the BB suit was the huge neck, cape clasps, and how bulky it was.

All these issues have been fixed, plus it's probably easier to move in and it's less bulky. How can people hate this, I don't get it.........



Forgive me dude, how can you say this suit is not bulky?

[CFE]

The way I see it, as long as the suit retains the silhouette of a giant human-sized bat, then it serves it's primal purpose.

People are looking at the trees rather than the forest. And so far, the TDK "forest" and all that we've seen for the film so far...Batsuit, Joker, Eckhardt as Dent...looks phenomeonal.

CFE

[bunk]

I like that Idea. I like it Very Much.

I like it too. Thats how I know it'll never happen.

[dark_b]

I think is "meh" just because of all those little designs on it... it's too busy, too cluttered.you like more simple suits right?
to bad i think the suit is amazing.

[Milkman95]

Forgive me dude, how can you say this suit is not bulky?

Well, it's LESS bulky than the BB suit, that's what I meant. It's an improvement, which is what we all wanted, right?

[C. Zejr]

Voted.

[Mysterio]

Again...how can you like the "Batman Begins" suit and not like this one? It's the same...basic...look!umm..because they're altogether two different styles? if you want to argue "basic look," then every batman suit is the same.

I liked the Begins suit, but you're wrong. i'm wrong??? how arrogant. it's my opinion.

[Steelsheen]

Some of the main gripes about the BB suit was the huge neck, cape clasps, and how bulky it was.

All these issues have been fixed, plus it's probably easier to move in and it's less bulky. How can people hate this, I don't get it.........

there will always be something to criticize.


please. it's the freaking suit plain as day. how many images do you need to see? i only need to see this one, and it looks horrible.
so seeing it in action wont change your mind anymore?

[dark_b]

What I still find funny is why did it take 18 years to figure out how to make the cowl in a way that the actor can move his head? Hell fans that make their own costumes have know how to do it for just about as long. Shows that the boys in Hollywood need to take a page from the fans every now and then.they didnt want to make a mask where he could move hes head.
its not that they couldnt do it. i thought that this was obvious? :dry:

[AdmNelson]

Another possibility why Bale isn't as buff at the moment is that he's still working out, and if there's any kind of shirtless/training scene, they'll film that at the end, when he's as big as possible.

But for the majority of the filming, he's more slim so the costumes can be less bulky. Just a thought...

-- Admiral Nelson

[Bandyt]

It's designed so it hugs his figure too, if anything is bulky, it's Bale.

[Super Kal]

you like more simple suits right?
to bad i think the suit is amazing.
if it were a darker shade of gray I wouldn't mind either

[ToddIsDead]

I think is "meh" just because of all those little designs on it... it's too busy, too cluttered.

Exactly.

[DorkyFresh]

People are looking at the trees rather than the forest.
well said...one of the smartest things i've read on here so far.

[jrd550]

While it does seem a bit busy and robotic like - I'm sure there's a reason for the upgrade (as if using the same suit night after night isn't reason enough for Wayne to develop a new, improved suit) and I'm all for changing things up a bit.

[Narsil]

It's weird though because, for what bit of the EW news on the suit that we see, the mag and Hemming are playing it up as if it's just a brand new suit.

You don't think they would've made a comment on it if it were just the Batcycle suit?

Plus the idea of Bruce getting a whole new suit JUST for using the Batcycle is laughable. Almost as much as the pointless inclusion of the Silver Suits at the end of B&R. Making me think that there's more to this suit than just wearing it when he rides the Bike.

CFE

Maybe..........youre right......maybe me.........who knows(exept the film crew)

But I think we heard that Bruce have to change the suit, and I think that this is already the changed suit and the only thing I can think of is that he have to change it because he have to ride a cycle and not the tumbler(I mean he couldn´t drive it with the long cape from BB for example)anymore. But it has also to many changes for just being for the cycle, I agree with you in that ponit.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

that helmet could be for the Bike..think about it a minute.

[dark_b]

Forgive me dude, how can you say this suit is not bulky?this new suit looks to me like tight fabric around the body and armor on top of the fabrick.
the BB suit was bulky because the rubber was modeled .

[dark_b]

Well, it's LESS bulky than the BB suit, that's what I meant. It's an improvement, which is what we all wanted, right?this is what we wanted. but lets complain....its more fun :woot:

[Nathan]

Loving it. Though it does kinda look like a cybertech Batman action figure.

[Spidey]

I'm not terribly impressed or disappointed by it, but I think the main aspect of the new look that bugs me is the excessively grooved plate thing they've got going on. It reminds me of the Goblin suit. Not quite as reminiscent of the Power Rangers, but it isn't far off.

The cowl and belt definitely earn their place as the suit's redeeming qualities, though.

[CFE]

I'm not terribly impressed or disappointed by it, but I think the main aspect of the new look that bugs me is the excessively grooved plate thing they've got going on. It reminds me of the Goblin suit. Not quite as reminiscent to the Power Rangers, but it isn't far off.

The cowl and belt definitely earn their place as the suit's redeeming qualities, though.

Yeah, I see what you're saying about the comparison between this and the goblin suit.

But something makes me think there's more practical reasoning to the Batsuit, as opposed to the Goblin, which felt like an unecessary and ultimately ridiculous costume change. I mean, I get the flight suit idea, but what was it about flying the glider that would've been harmful had he just warn the rags of the comics.

Of course, in the end, we all have to keep in mind that these aren't the books we're discussing, but the films...so go figure.

CFE

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Well, it's LESS bulky than the BB suit, that's what I meant. It's an improvement, which is what we all wanted, right?



To be perfectly honest, it has never bothered me in the slightest.. the new cowl bothers me a little, but i have only seen one shot..know what i mean?

I think its purposely like that because of the Bat bike.

[Mysterio]

this is what we wanted. but lets complain....its more fun :woot:it may be what you wanted, but it isn't what "we" wanted. recognize that some people didn't want any change at all.

[nachoman]

It is a cool armor design but the suit looks a bit too 'cyborg ninja' for my taste. There are 2 new suits in TDK so I hope the other one is more classic bats.

That one is really cool and original though.

The cowl looks good, I like it a lot and he can turn his head now hurray! The design of the cowl suits Bale's slim face.

Are his eyes like covered by lenses?

[dark_b]

it may be what you wanted, but it isn't what "we" wanted. recognize that some people didn't want any change at all.read what i quoted smart guy.
you didnt want a less bulky suit? because this is what i meant.

[Spidey]

I also take comfort in the philosophy that the suit doesn't make the man, the man makes the suit, and Christian Bale has my full confidence and support, 100%. So that's a good thing.

[Mysterio]

read what i quoted smart guy.
you didnt want a less bulky suit? because this is what i meant.i didn't want any change in the suit at all. read what i said about some not wanting any change, smart guy.

[dark_b]

It is a cool armor design but the suit looks a bit too 'cyborg ninja' for my taste. There are 2 new suits in TDK so I hope the other one is more classic bats.

That one is really cool and original though.

The cowl looks good, I like it a lot and he can turn his head now hurray! The design of the cowl suits Bale's slim face.

Are his eyes like covered by lenses?would you be so good and share your info with the rest of us?
we only know about one new suit.
where did you hear that?

[Dark Spidey]

Is it me or is the Bat symbol gold now too? :wow:

[dark_b]

Is it me or is the Bat symbol gold now too? :wow:since the symbol is the saem colour as the whole suit than the whole suit is gold.

so what do you think?

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

cool it gentleman.

:)

we're all friends here. :)

[Milkman95]

I would have been disappointed if there wasn't any change - I mean come on, it was Batman BEGINS last time, and he put together a "makeshift" batsuit last time. Now that he's had some time within his suit, it's normal to make modifications and changes - I'm glad we got this bad ass looking suit - and to me, my favorite part of it is the new cowl.

[dark_b]

i didn't want any change in the suit at all. read what i said about some not wanting any change, smart guy.you want 100% the same suit ?
even if they would make the same suit but less buiky you wouldnt want that?

are you serious?

[CFE]

it may be what you wanted, but it isn't what "we" wanted. recognize that some people didn't want any change at all.

I understand that...I mean, to date (and now including TDK) there hasn't been a single occurance of a Batsuit carrying over in FULL from one film to another.

Maybe if, as many others suggested, they'd gone the Spiderman route and only made minor alterations. So minor, you'd have to watch the costuming documentary to really know about them.

But I still like the new suit. It looks practical for me since we're discussing it being worn by a mortal man waging war on the underworld of a dystopian urban society. I see it, and I buy into it; it looks like something he'd wear.

Keep in mind this is supposed to take place after BB, which ended with Crane and a huge chunk of Arkham Inmates still on the loose and Gotham still not quite recovered from Ras' Al Ghul's attack. Throw in the Joker, and you've got a situation that calls for Batman to up the ante of his arsenal. No different than a warden upgrading to keep the inmates in line.

Plus it looks tough, and combat uniforms need to look tough.

CFE

[Super Kal]

i expected change, but I wanted something a little bit more sleek in design.

[dark_b]

I would have been disappointed if there wasn't any change - I mean come on, it was Batman BEGINS last time, and he put together a "makeshift" batsuit last time. Now that he's had some time within his suit, it's normal to make modifications and changes - I'm glad we got this bad ass looking suit - and to me, my favorite part of it is the new cowl.
the cowl looks the same.

the only difference that i see is that its seperate from teh neck :dry:

[Keyser Sushi]

But Batman doesn't kill!

He'd have to go, "I won't kill you. But I don't have to unwrap you."

I had a mouthful of water when I read this post, and I damned near suffocated and died because I couldn't stop laughing.

Thank you. :)

[Dark Spidey]

Is it me or is the Bat symbol gold now too? :eek:

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Well perhaps the War has gotten harder, So Batman needs something more to protect him..after all this film is about escalation.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Is it me or is the Bat symbol gold now too? :eek:

It isn't my friend.

:)

[CFE]

Well perhaps the War has gotten harder, So Batman needs something more to protect him..after all this film is about escalation.

exactly.

CFE

[Rezzo]

Is it me or is the Bat symbol gold now too? :eek:

Probably just the lighting in the pic that is making it appear gold just as the lighting is making the suit appear to be grey

[Dark Spidey]

since the symbol is the saem colour as the whole suit than the whole suit is gold.

so what do you think?

Doesn't look the same colour to me.

Look at the bottom point of the bat. Sure looks gold...

[DorkyFresh]

omg....i don't understand why everyone keeps thinking the Bat is gold. do people not get how heavy lighting works?

[zman]

the new suit is nice but I,m going to miss this:http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa153/darcloud8/poifectsuit.jpg


...and what's this I hear about two new suits in the movie?

[CFE]

Doesn't look the same colour to me.

Look at the bottom point of the bat. Sure looks gold...

It's the lighting that Pfister has set up for the scene they're most likely shooting.

CFE

[Super Kal]

yeah, I'm confused about that as well

[dark_b]

Doesn't look the same colour to me.

Look at the bottom point of the bat. Sure looks gold...its the same colour as the rest of the suit.
p.s. hes boots look purple . means nothing ok.

[Dark Spidey]

It isn't my friend.

:)

Oh. :csad:

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Oh. :csad:

Don't be discouraged, From this angle the Sign looks amazing, cant wait to see a front shot.

:)

[Lobster Charlie]

Wow, what really gets me is all this talk of a "sleeker" or "streamlined" suit--this new suit is anything but. It's segmented, it has more angles, appears to be constructed of more parts, and has way more lines and stuff going on all over it. How that is "sleeker" is beyond me.

If anything, the BB suit is far smoother, sleeker, and a much simpler design. The new suit is anything but. It may be cooler, more deadly looking and more interesting to look at (for some), but sleeker??

[Mysterio]

you want 100% the same suit ?
even if they would make the same suit but less buiky you wouldnt want that?

are you serious?what part of "i didn't want any change" do you not get? it never once crossed my mind that the suit was bulky or that it looked bulky. the cowl movement is an improvement, but it didn't necessitate an overhaul of the entire suit.

[CFE]

Y'know, I'm surprised that people are questioning more about the suit, and less on the fact that there may be a scene where Batman's out in PLAIN SIGHT on top of a COP CAR!

Is he gonna be riding on top with Gordon like "The punks are heading on 7th, Jim. take a right! We'll drive-thru Taco Bell LATER!"

So much for stalking criminals from the shadows...:p

CFE

[The-Dark-Knight]

In the new edition of EW, they mention that new Bat suit will be able to fire blades from his arms do you people think that these will cause Joker's scars? Just a theory.

[dark_b]

Wow, what really gets me is all this talk of a "sleeker" or "streamlined" suit--this new suit is anything but. It's segmented, it has more angles, appears to be constructed of more parts, and has way more lines and stuff going on all over it. How that is "sleeker" is beyond me.

If anything, the BB suit is far smoother, sleeker, and a much simpler design. The new suit is anything but. It may be cooler, more deadly looking and more interesting to look at (for some), but sleeker??sorry ma friend but just because you dont get doesnt mean anything.

its armor on fabric.

[dark_b]

what part of "i didn't want any change" do you not get? it never once crossed my mind that the suit was bulky or that it looked bulky. the cowl movement is an improvement, but it didn't necessitate an overhaul of the entire suit.i can not belive it.

ok lets end it here.

[Keyser Soze]

Interesting idea. But I'm sticking with my stance that The Joker is already scarred when the movie begins.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Y'know, I'm surprised that people are questioning more about the suit, and less on the fact that there may be a scene where Batman's out in PLAIN SIGHT on top of a COP CAR!

Is he gonna be riding on top with Gordon like "The punks are heading on 7th, Jim. take a right! We'll drive-thru Taco Bell LATER!"

So much for stalking criminals from the shadows...:p

CFE

Well the roof looks dented so it looks like he jumps down from somewhere onto it.

[Sam18]

Hasn't this been discussed already?

[CFE]

Wow, what really gets me is all this talk of a "sleeker" or "streamlined" suit--this new suit is anything but. It's segmented, it has more angles, appears to be constructed of more parts, and has way more lines and stuff going on all over it. How that is "sleeker" is beyond me.

If anything, the BB suit is far smoother, sleeker, and a much simpler design. The new suit is anything but. It may be cooler, more deadly looking and more interesting to look at (for some), but sleeker??

I think people say sleeker because Bale looks slimer in this suit than he did for BB.

CFE

[Paste Pot Pete]

It reminds me of the Goblin suit. Not quite as reminiscent of the Power Rangers, but it isn't far off.



I still don't get the Power Rangers reference. Has anyone actually seen that show? Their suits are pure spandex; they're Donner Superman-esque, if anything. Unless it's the helmet that's drawing the comparison.

[The-Dark-Knight]

Hasn't this been discussed already?

Has it?

[CFE]

Ahh...I see.

CFE

[Rezzo]

Seems like a plausible theory

[Spidey]

I still don't get the Power Rangers reference. Has anyone actually seen that show? Their suits are pure spandex; they're Donner Superman-esque, if anything. Unless it's the helmet that's drawing the comparison.

Well, I don't think people were necessarily referring to the Power Rangers themselves, as much as other characters that would appear on that show, with the colorful, cheesed-up costumes.

[Two-Face]

Yeah someone mentioned this when the new picture was released,


I think it's interesting idea.

[Golgo-13]

the new suit is nice but I,m going to miss this:http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa153/darcloud8/poifectsuit.jpg


...and what's this I hear about two new suits in the movie?

I think there's only one NEw suit in the movie. He has the BB suit in the first half of the flick, then changes it to the new one somewhere along the lines/

And yeah i feel ya on that one. I'm gonna miss the BB suit too. It just looks more menacing that the tech suit. Plus it made Batman look more 'physically imposing' as oppose to the new suit giving him the 'Inspector gadget-man' type look.

[C. Zejr]

I still don't get the Power Rangers reference. Has anyone actually seen that show? Their suits are pure spandex; they're Donner Superman-esque, if anything. Unless it's the helmet that's drawing the comparison.The "Power Rangers reference" is not from the show, but from the movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106064/).

[DAVIDYR1]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/stacystahl/batman_l.jpg

Beautiful!! One word to describe it....Beautiful.

Frist let me say I love the Begins suit. Killer design, sleek, wicked cowl...and I never felt it was bulky or puffy. The begins suit was awesome! My favorite suit to date!!!!!

I think this photo says a lot about the movie. Why radically redesign the neck of the cowl like that? A complete opposite of the first one? Looks to me like he'll be able to move his head freely...freely like what's needed when riding a motorcycle. I see no other reason why they'd make that kind of a neck on that cowl unless it had a purpose because they made such a huge deal about that 'huge neck' that made Bale look like he was lunging forward with the Begins cowl...to simply abandon it all..and heck I loved that neck on the cowl!!!!!
Nope...I think we'll get the Begins suit for a lot more than we're all bargaining for in the film...and this suit here will have a specific need later on.

Remember...when Fox showed Bruce the Nomex suit, it was in a large wall unit with many drawers. What are we supposed to assume is in the other drawers anyhow?? :)

The suit rocks...End of story. In the movie world of fantasy, the actor can be wearing a foam costume that looks like real rock or boulders... that we're then lead to beleve there's weight to it.... a hard surface and that it could be real stone...but in reality it's a costume prop. In Begins, I thought the suit looked great, moved well, and fit the bill perfectly. For me the Movie Magic worked. In other words...why now make a costume that clearly has segmented body parts if not for the ability of NEEDED radical movement?? I think we're going to see him on a bike. That's an awkeward position to be in costume for...but with this new armor he looks like he'd be fine.

Nolan has a way of making things happen for a reason. I think this suit will have a brief appearance....but will make it's mark just the same. I dont believe this is the continuation of the Batsuit for further films either...but it rocks just the same!!!!!

I love it...someone asked me if yesterday if I was ready to begin??...and my answer was..... yes.....of course. :)

David

[bunk]

___

[Mysterio]

sorry ma friend but just because you dont get doesnt mean anything.

its armor on fabric.i think he gets it perfectly. your opinion doesn't trump everyone else's just because you happen to disagree with someone.

[CFE]

hmmm...could be...

But I agree with Keyser; Joker's face is probably already f**ked up before confronting Wayne for the first time.

CFE

[DorkyFresh]

I still don't get the Power Rangers reference. Has anyone actually seen that show? Their suits are pure spandex; they're Donner Superman-esque, if anything. Unless it's the helmet that's drawing the comparison.

it's because people like to see things that aren't there......hence, why people think the Batsymbol is gold (wtf????)

[strider]

Interesting idea. But I'm sticking with my stance that The Joker is already scarred when the movie begins.

This guy right here...

[CFE]

it's because people like to see things that aren't there......hence, why people think the Batsymbol is gold (wtf????)

lol! :up:

CFE

[DorkyFresh]

argh...did this really need it's own thread?

[CFE]

Lets just get a big fat TDK Speculation thread on here. probably be best, especcially with the reveal of the suit, which discussion for is turning into quite a beast...obviously.

CFE

[Keyser Sushi]

See, I saw it in shadows and it looked fine. In the light, it still looked clunky and robotic. It's incredibly disappointing to see them head more in that direction, when the themes of the movie aren't.

I know, and I'm not disagreeing with that. But as you just said, the Begins suit looked better in shadows than it did in the light. And what I'm saying is, this suit may end up having a similar situation - it may look better in shadows, or lit by Wally Pfister, you know, than it does in this ONE photograph, which has an awful lot of light in it.

It's going to look like what it looks like. This is what it looks like.

Of course, but I'm thinking about three things: the first is that Nolan rarely showed the Bat-suit up close, full-body in Begins. He tended to focus on Batman's face or upper body.

The second is that Batman tended to be shrouded in his cape in Begins - and in this one photograph he is not - because the photo is designed to show the SUIT, not the cape. IN the film I don't think we will see as much of the suit.

The third is that this is a photograph that was scanned, printed in a magazine, and scanned again. So who knows how accurate the color is in that photo. It could, in theory, but one hell of a ways off. Remember that in a few of the promo shots, the Begins suit looked grey, yet always look black as night in the movie? The TDK suit is designed to have more depth of tone - meaning that there are lights and darks to make him appear more three-dimensional. Okay. Yes. But as shot by Nolan, it could look incredible. I don't know yet, because I haven't seen it shot by Nolan, but we will, soon enough.

What I'm saying is, the way Schumacher shot his busy Bat-suits, you saw every detail and there was rarely any mood or any sense of intimidation to that Batman. My initial reaction to the first shots of the Begins suit were, "Jesus, it's the Sonar suit from Forever... DAMN YOU NOLAN!!!" Then I saw the movie and I was like, "oh, that's... actually quite awesome. Never mind. BLESS YOU, NOLAN!!!" Because he shot it well, and he gets the "creature of the night" thing even if the suit doesn't reflect it on its own merits.

So I hesitate to damn this suit because Nolan has fooled me before. We'll have to see how NOLAN shoots the suit, and I think it's very possible that most of the issues we have with it will disappear.

The thing is designed to draw attention. The belt almost points right at it, and the leg armor draws attention that...area.

When there's a spotlight shining on it, yes. I doubt his groin will even be in frame during 95% of the movie.

Anything disappears when it's dark. I'm worried about what it will look like in the light. BEGINS wasn't exactly filmed in the dark. It was pretty well-lit, considering.

And yet as you said before, the Begins suit looked better in the shadows than it did in the light - and it looked damned good in the movie, IMO. It wasn't shot in the dark, but it wasn't SPOTLIGHTED, either... it was usually backlit heavily and front-lit with a muted glow to give definition to his face and chest and such. It worked quite well - it kept him believably in shadows to the other characters, yet visible to us, the audience.

[zman]

David, making this thing (this seems to be your intention, if I read you well) will be quite a challenge...good luck! would you say this picture alone is enough to start working? (I doubt it!)

[Golgo-13]

The whole new suit related to the Bike theory sounds plausible. Especially when you look at the material. It looks very motor jacket like, plus the shortened length of the cape. A long cape would get caught up in the Bikes moving parts.

[Klidokrator]

I thing that the suit is great. It's realistic and keeps the elements that Batman has in the comics.
The only thing that i m waiting for now is white eye lenses ...:woot:

[Narsil]

Y'know, I'm surprised that people are questioning more about the suit, and less on the fact that there may be a scene where Batman's out in PLAIN SIGHT on top of a COP CAR!

Is he gonna be riding on top with Gordon like "The punks are heading on 7th, Jim. take a right! We'll drive-thru Taco Bell LATER!"

So much for stalking criminals from the shadows...:p

CFE

Its just a promotionel shot i won´t give that much to it

[CFE]

The whole new suit related to the Bike theory sounds plausible. Especially when you look at the material. It looks very motor jacket like, plus the shortened length of the cape. A long cape would get caught up in the Bikes moving parts.

Yeah, and the gloves look to be taken right out from Motocross.

But I'm not sure. It still seems a bit overkill for Bruce to wear an entirely different suit just to drive a different vehicle. I honestly don't think a man like Bruce would bother with that.

CFE

[Exabyte]

Who really cares, you all are going to see the movie whether you like the suite or not. And the TDK will be one of the best SH movies made.

[Conan]

I voted 1 because it doesn't look different from the Begins suit and I still wish you could see the :batty: better.

[CFE]

Who really cares, you all are going to see the movie whether you like the suite or not. And the TDK will be one of the best SH movies made.

That says it all. It really does.

Hence why I think this heated discussion over the first shot of the suit is ultimately pointless. I mean, it's gonna kick ass when we see this suit in action I'm sure.

CFE

[DorkyFresh]

But I'm not sure. It still seems a bit overkill for Bruce to wear an entirely different suit just to drive a different vehicle. I honestly don't think a man like Bruce would bother with that.

CFE
one person had a theory that Bruce decided to make an all-around-suit that can withstand bike-related damage...not just a suit made specifically for a motorcycle.

[Klidokrator]

Who really cares, you all are going to see the movie whether you like the suite or not. And the TDK will be one of the best SH movies made.

I Double that!:woot:

[Qwerty©]

It looks cool, I guess. But it moves away from the simplistic design which make the Batman costume great.

But I gave it an 8 because it is so well made. Effort was made here, which I respect.

[DieSmiling]

The only thing that i m waiting for now is white eye lenses ...:woot:

I've always wanted to see how it would look -- I think if well done it could be awesome, and creepy as hell. So Batman...

[Kleric]

As someone who has spent a good chunk of his life in and around law enforcement, I see a serious SWAT influence in this suit.

The gloves are a perfect example. Check it out:

http://www.damascusgear.com/main.html

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Those gloves look like they can easily knock a man out.

[CFE]

one person had a theory that Bruce decided to make an all-around-suit that can withstand bike-related damage...not just a suit made specifically for a motorcycle.

See now THAT I can believe.

CFE

[flavio_lebeau]

I must say I prefer the simpler approach of Begins. But the uniform isn't a big thing anyways, so I'm not complaining.

[Klidokrator]

I've always wanted to see how it would look -- I think if well done it could be awesome, and creepy as hell. So Batman...

Watch Batman Dead end and you will see what the i m talking about!!!

[DorkyFresh]

As someone who has spent a good chunk of his life in and around law enforcement, I see a serious SWAT influence in this suit.

thank you! i saw the outfit and the first thing i thought was "TACTICAL!" but a lot of people think "robotic" or "mechanical" for some reason. i guess people who aren't familiar with tactical equipment see the picture and have to relate it to something else...

[Klidokrator]

Those gloves look like they can easily knock a man out.

Yeah cause thats what Batman is all about .
He does not have all the time in the word. He must do his Job Quick n Silent

[CFE]

thank you! i saw the outfit and the first thing i thought was "TACTICAL!" but a lot of people think "robotic" or "mechanical" for some reason.

Tactical is the word of the day.

I mean, as I've said before, the guy's fighting a WAR on Crime. Out of all the variations of the suit through 1989 to now, this is the only one that supports that; with BB being a close second.

Nolan seems to be the first one to realize that this is a never-ending struggle for Bruce. Batman doesn't just capture Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze and all of a sudden Gotham is completely save by the end of the film and he back at the Manor all safe and sound with Dick and Barbara.

No, crime doesn't stop when the film stops. And neither should Batman.

CFE

[Spidey]

I know what this suit reminds me of now! The octocamo from MGS4. Alright, just went up a few points.

[Borat]

Who really cares, you all are going to see the movie whether you like the suite or not. And the TDK will be one of the best SH movies made.Bravo!

[sethcohen]

done know if anyone else noticed this, but doesnt it kind of look like the "ultimate" batman from wizard? anyone have a pic of that?

[KOLLUS]

In the new edition of EW, they mention that new Bat suit will be able to fire blades from his arms do you people think that these will cause Joker's scars? Just a theory.

not a chance

[Narsil]

Originally Posted by Ethereal http://forums.superherohype.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=11879125#post11879125)
Who really cares, you all are going to see the movie whether you like the suite or not. And the TDK will be one of the best SH movies made.
CFE

Agreed.................
but if we wouldn´t discuss it, then it wouldn´t be superherohype:cwink:

[Nathan]

done know if anyone else noticed this, but doesnt it kind of look like the "ultimate" batman from wizard? anyone have a pic of that?

You mean this?

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d71/bluevendetta07/Batman2.jpg

[CFE]

Agreed.................
but if we wouldn´t discuss it, then it wouldn´t be superherohype:cwink:

true.

CFE

[bunk]

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[Spidey]

Agreed.................
but if we wouldn´t discuss it, then it wouldn´t be superherohype:cwink:

It would be superherowaitandkeepourmouthsshutuntilweseewhathap pens.

And that doesn't sound like very much fun.

[The-Dark-Knight]

Maybe this thread should now be merged into my speculation thread, Hunter?

[Spidey]

Yeah...uh, I think the hype is alive...because I didn't put that extra space in there...

[C. Zejr]

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4080/tdkbatmannewsuit3ao2.jpg

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8304/batmantdkhighres2vo6.jpg

[CFE]

Is it just me, or is C. Zejr spamming with his continuous posting up of the Batsuit photo?

CFE

[Chucktallica101]

I think that it would be a good possibility. I like it actually...don't F**K with Batman. He'll cut you...I like it.

[Baba Ghanoush]

You know, that new batsuit reminds me of the padded suits motocross racers wear. I know its not the exact same thing, but both have similar jointed looks.

[ghost_x]

you may be right...