Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Milkman95]

sorry Jeff, i have to disagree, i think this is the new suit. I agree he would make improvements, and these are the improvements that makes this new suit.

I guess we'll soon find out, but to me, Nolan has some surprises up his sleeve and showing off his supposed suit he changes to mid-film wouldn't be released this early, IF at all.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I guess we'll soon find out, but to me, Nolan has some surprises up his sleeve and showing off his supposed suit he changes to mid-film wouldn't be released this early, IF at all.



then perhaps he has learned his lesson from last time, Lets face it..the more exposure the better, i don't mind having things kept back, i quite love that..but he needs to make sure this Film is known about..Begins was pretty much under the radar.

this needs to be the biggest blip on that Radar.

:cool:

[RakuMon]

You know what..an higher res picture would help allot, its a poor scan..a closer look would help..and i don't mean just blowing up the picture.

:)

Actually, I think it looks a lot better in the magazine. You can see all the detailing up close

[raybia]

I'm hoping this is the new suit and that he makes improvements to it later.

Thats a very interesting possibility.

[DarkJester]

For the entire run of the Batman movies, he's been in some kind of armor.

How come NOW seems to be the time to have a problem with that? Did you expect something DIFFERENT from Begins? (to those who dislike it of course)

You really think Bruce was out crime-fighting one day and thought "Gee, this bullet proof armor's quite nifty, but I don't think it quite looks right... Now this *picks up spandex* is more like it! I'll just y'know.., slip some armor under it or something..."

Love the new suit. It's the only logical way to go in the world the new franchise is set in. And am I the only one who likes both the new suit AND Ledger/Joker?

[Qwerty©]

You really think Bruce was out crime-fighting one day and thought "Gee, this bullet proof armor's quite nifty, but I don't think it quite looks right... Now this *picks up spandex* is more like it! I'll just y'know.., slip some armor under it or something..."

Nobody has been asking for that, stop being condescending.

[StylishHokie21]

I think it is a joke that 228 people (44.88%) gave the new suit a 10. We've only seen one angle shot but 228 people already know it is perfect. Some of you have been trying to say I'm too against Nolan but by the looks of it half of you are hardcore Nolan fans willing to accept anything he gives you. Giving this suit a 10 based on one picture proves my point. Thank you.

I know I'm a little late to the party, but damn man. He assumes everyone in here are "hardcore Nolan fans." I didn't like the Joker picture, so his point is moot.

[DarkJester]

What's the deal with those batman's above? I don't remember them all being so damn shiney, that defeats the whole purpose of being hidden and sneaking around in the dark.
Well I believe you hit the nail on the head with your own observation. It does defeat the purpose of running around in the dark, something Schumacher's entries in the Batman series replaced with bright neon colors and flashing lights. Batman was only trying to blend in.

[sasquatchs]

But isn't his suit bullet proof?

To an extent, but you don't get SWAT teams relying solely on their body armour to protect them. It may not even be a good idea, I'm just throwing it out there because it fits in with the knight. Of course, if Batman is in a position to be fired open he's already made a mistake.

I'd rather we see a convincing reason for the change than have the new suit from the start. It's also a great way to contrast the 2 and show its justified. I'm hoping he adapts a Nomex suit himself into the new one, but that's probably asking too much

[The Kid]

wow this new suit sucks

[kenellard]

For the entire run of the Batman movies, he's been in some kind of armor.

How come NOW seems to be the time to have a problem with that? Did you expect something DIFFERENT from Begins? (to those who dislike it of course)

You really think Bruce was out crime-fighting one day and thought "Gee, this bullet proof armor's quite nifty, but I don't think it quite looks right... Now this *picks up spandex* is more like it! I'll just y'know.., slip some armor under it or something..."

Love the new suit. It's the only logical way to go in the world the new franchise is set in. And am I the only one who likes both the new suit AND Ledger/Joker?

yeah, this really isn't funny, anyone with even a thimbleful of intelligence should be able to understand that there are more ways to create a batsuit than either spandex or rubber, like qwerty said, comments like this sound condescending, not to mention ignorant

[itsthebatman]

For the entire run of the Batman movies, he's been in some kind of armor.

How come NOW seems to be the time to have a problem with that? Did you expect something DIFFERENT from Begins? (to those who dislike it of course)

You really think Bruce was out crime-fighting one day and thought "Gee, this bullet proof armor's quite nifty, but I don't think it quite looks right... Now this *picks up spandex* is more like it! I'll just y'know.., slip some armor under it or something..."

Love the new suit. It's the only logical way to go in the world the new franchise is set in. And am I the only one who likes both the new suit AND Ledger/Joker?
I think people have an issue with it because : a) it's very busy and detailed, taking away from the smooth look of previous costumes, and b) it's very obviously armour, which makes him look more like a man in a suit of armour, and less like a man-shaped Bat, less of a creature of the night.
I like this suit, not sole on ledger's look, but greatly looking forward to his portrayal.
Don't worry, you're not alone.

[Timstuff]

You'd take him seriously if a fabric like costume looked cool and convincing, same way a rubber costume looks cool and convincing.

In BB it was explained as being armor plates inside silicone. In TDK, we can see actual exposed armor plates over fabric. When I see Nolan's Batman suits, I see armor, not rubber. If you see fabric, you're either going to see it as fabric or tights.

And that doesn't even address the color debate, which is quite possibly even bigger than the material debate. The big thing fans seem to whine about is that Batman will never have a gray costume on screen, but my opinion is that we never should. The entire reason that Batman had a gray costume in the comics was so that he'd be LESS scary, and it was done against Bill Finger's preference. Batman is scarier when he dresses completely in black, and I would not have it any other way. He's not supposed to be a walking flag.

[JTIZZLEVILLE]

I know I like something when I see it. Now, if I don't like something (say that Joker pic) at first sight I may need more pictures and different angles to change my perspective of it.

But I doubt that I'm gonna say I love the new Batman suit and then when I get a new picture, decide that I hate it.

People assume that just because I'm a Nolan fan, that I'm gonna love everything he gives me. The point is, when BB was filming I hated the Tumbler and the Batsuit. Yet, I still trusted Nolan.

[The Kid]

He's Swat-man

[The Kid]

he's swat man now :p

lol great minds think alike kak... :o

[Timstuff]

And while we're at it...

http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4641&stc=1&d=1181983680http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4642&stc=1&d=1181983680

Are those porn? :huh:

[The Kid]

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/DKbatsuit.jpg

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http://www.qwipster.net/steel.jpg

:whatever:

[DarkJester]

I wasn't trying to be condescending, I've just read about every page of this thread and wallowed through some of the most absurd reasons for disliking something that we all had a general idea of how it would look. Someone said the suit from the Dead End fan-film was the way to go, which was a straight up horrible costume in an even worse short film; praised only for it's likeness to the comics.

Another debate was about whether or not Batman's cowl should be blue for Christ's sake.

Regardless of how different of a Joker we'll be receiving this time around, the Batman look seemed pretty grounded in Begins: He's got black body armor.

[The Kid]

Why does Batman have to dress like a sci-fi ninja?

he's bat-blade? :csad:

[Mike_D202]

If I were taking on the mob and super villains, I'd want to be armored up with the best that money would buy (especially if I were a billionaire). No thin flimsy fabric with my brief's showin.

[Sub-Zero]

i don't know if anyone has mentioned this already but remember way back when the confirmed the title was "the dark knight"? they said the title had some significance. now we have a batman with a suit of armor. anyone else see the "knight" correlation?

[dark_b]

I guess we'll soon find out, but to me, Nolan has some surprises up his sleeve and showing off his supposed suit he changes to mid-film wouldn't be released this early, IF at all.
milkman but this suit is different.
it is completely different from that pic.

if it would be an update of the old suit wouldnt people on this board who see every detail talk about the old suit now?

sorry i also think that this is the new suit.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

You know it could still be a second suit..


like a motor cycle suit.. hence the Helmet.

[The Kid]

and heath ledger as joker.

[Crook]

milkman but this suit is different.
it is completely different from that pic.

if it would be an update of the old suit wouldnt people on this board who see every detail talk about the old suit now?

sorry i also think that this is the new suit.
No one's arguing it isn't. Because technically, even if it's replaced later on in the movie, it still is a new suit because it's an improvement over the BB version.

[kenellard]

anyone have a hi res version of the suit pic?

[The Kid]

anyone have a hi res version of the suit pic?

http://www.filmweb.no/bilder/multimedia/archive/00097/Alicia_Silverstone___97355o.jpg

[Rockbottom]

Can someone link me to the big version of the pic without the numbers and article on it please?

[FlawlessVictory]

i don't know if anyone has mentioned this already but remember way back when the confirmed the title was "the dark knight"? they said the title had some significance. now we have a batman with a suit of armor. anyone else see the "knight" correlation?

Absolutely. Nolan stated there was a specific reason why he chose as the title of the film, "The Dark Knight". And I believe he even said the title was supposed to be taken quite literally. Now seeing this pic, we know what he meant.

[The Kid]

Absolutely. Nolan stated there was a specific reason why he chose as the title of the film, "The Dark Knight". And I believe he even said the title was supposed to be taken quite literally. Now seeing this pic, we know what he meant.

Or maybe Ra's Comes back and he and batman duel with lightsabers over a bottomless pit?? :ninja:

[kenellard]

http://www.filmweb.no/bilder/multimedia/archive/00097/Alicia_Silverstone___97355o.jpg

man, that is hot

[The Sage]

In BB it was explained as being armor plates inside silicone. In TDK, we can see actual exposed armor plates over fabric. When I see Nolan's Batman suits, I see armor, not rubber. If you see fabric, you're either going to see it as fabric or tights.


If the fabric looks convincingly like a high tech material, maybe even like a second skin, then you won't see fabric.


And that doesn't even address the color debate, which is quite possibly even bigger than the material debate. The big thing fans seem to whine about is that Batman will never have a gray costume on screen, but my opinion is that we never should. The entire reason that Batman had a gray costume in the comics was so that he'd be LESS scary, and it was done against Bill Finger's preference. Batman is scarier when he dresses completely in black, and I would not have it any other way. He's not supposed to be a walking flag.

Don't see how having a gray main suit would make him less scary. Is a gargoyle less scay because it's gray?

I'd say a matte black cape, cowl, boots, gloves with a charcoal gray body suit could work. I'm not expecting a light gray outfit.

[dark_b]

No one's arguing it isn't. Because technically, even if it's replaced later on in the movie, it still is a new suit because it's an improvement over the BB version.so bruce build a new suti from skratch in hes cave?

this is not old rubber suit.

[Crook]

so bruce build a new suti from skratch in hes cave?
Why would he have to build it from scratch? Matter fact, who said anything about it?

this is not old rubber suit.
O..k...

Your point being? :huh:

[The Kid]

man, that is hot

Yeah.

Hey are you excited for Metal Gear Batman?

[kenellard]

Superhero suits from movies like Spider-Man, Superman, and Fantastic 4 only work because the people who wear them are supposed to look like walking flags. With Batman, ever since the beginning he was supposed to be a much darker and different breed of hero. The only reason he wears gray instead of all black is because DC wouldn't let Finger and Cane make him all black because "it looked to scary," and because they wanted him to look more like Superman. There were also regulations about how much of each color they could print. Batman is a soldier fighting a one-man war on crime, so he needs something that's a bit sturdier looking than fabric. A "super hero costume" just would not look right on Batman in a movie. I would not be able to take him seriously if he was wearing gray fabric instead of black armor. The only reason Batman wore gray in the comics is because it was less scary, and for that very reason, I think it should stay black in the films.

um.....what?

[The Kid]

I just figured out where I saw a similar design before!

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/651/651322/metal-gear-solid-4-20050915072838293.jpg

[dark_b]

Why would he have to build it from scratch? Matter fact, who said anything about it?


O..k...

Your point being? :huh:please try to understand that my english is not 100% :dry:

ok we are now in the movie ok? i have a feeling that you think that i am talking about the suit from the set. of course they build a new BB suit.

but this suit that you saw yesterday is a different suit. the BB suit was rubber( in the movie not). but this suit from EW is a fabric suit with armour on top of it. so how can it be the old suit but updated??

[dark_b]

I just figured out where I saw a similar design before!

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/651/651322/metal-gear-solid-4-20050915072838293.jpg
nice :up:

both are just human and need a suit that protects them,where they can move and is practical.

[Crook]

but this suit that you saw yesterday is a different suit. the BB suit was rubber( in the movie not). but this suit from EW is a fabric suit with armour on top of it. so how can it be the old suit but updated??
I didn't say it was the old suit updated, but rather an updated suit based upon the older BB design. There's a difference.

[dark_b]

I didn't say it was the old suit updated, but rather an updated suit based upon the older BB design. There's a difference.thats why i asked if in the movie bruce made the suit himself :yay:

[Crook]

thats why i asked if in the movie bruce made the suit himself :yay:
Well no one really knows, he could build it himself, but doubtful. I'd say there's more of a chance he gets an improved nomex survival suit and works on that, just as he did with BB.

Or Nolan could just skip this whole process altogether. It is treading on old territory.

[Milkman95]

dark b - my argument is this new suit is the updated TDK suit, but it's NOT the one he changes to mid-film, he starts off with this modified suit.

I just think it's logical that between films, he's made modifications to the BB suit. I'm wrong more than likely, but who knows.

It's not like they made reference to the suit changes Keaton had between B89 and BR.......

[dark_b]

Well no one really knows, he could build it himself, but doubtful. I'd say there's more of a chance he gets an improved nomex survival suit and works on that, just as he did with BB.

Or Nolan could just skip this whole process altogether. It is treading on old territory.
ok now i understand you.

in the begininng of the movie hegets a new survival suit and theen when it gets damaged he makes some changes on the suit?


but wasnt it reported that he has the old suit at the beginning and then something happens to the suit( watter) and he gets a new one?

[Darkest Knight]

Hey, I like the new suit. I just think it kills the "mystery" aura.

That just makes no sense to me, Sage. How does that kill the "mystery" aura? If anything, it adds to it. Batman is moving so fast and precise, the enemy doesn't know he's wearing armor. Batman doesn't stand and pose for pictures, and / or explain to the guys while they're shooting at him, that he is wearing armor. He's not all: "Nanana boo boo, you can't hit me, I'm wearing armor!!!"

So when they do shoot @ him, and he keeps going, that certainly adds to the "mystery" of the character through the enemy's p.o.v, does it not? If the bullets or things are hitting him and it has no effect, that doesn't creep the opposition out? You've got to be kidding me.

In BEGINS he wore armor and the mystery wasn't taken away, in B89 he wore armor and the mystery wasn't taken away ... and in B89 the thugs even found out for sure it was body armor. The criminals in Gotham know nothing of that. They think he's this humanoid bat-demon that is coming for them in the darkness of the city. It goes back to Batman: Year One the comic. Gordon is explaining to his wife, "any man who wears a cape, and it is a cape, I've seen it ... it's not wings", explains how legitimate tools and weapons can be converted through theatricality to give people an entirely different perspective.

[dark_b]

That just makes no sense to me, Sage. How does that kill the "mystery" aura? If anything, it adds to it. Batman is moving so fast and precise, the enemy doesn't know he's wearing armor. Batman doesn't stand and pose for pictures, and / or explain to the guys while they're shooting at him, that he is wearing armor. He's not all: "Nanana boo boo, you can't hit me, I'm wearing armor!!!"

So when they do shoot @ him, and he keeps going, that certainly adds to the "mystery" of the character through the enemy's p.o.v, does it not? If the bullets or things are hitting him and it has no effect, that doesn't creep the opposition out? You've got to be kidding me.

In BEGINS he wore armor and the mystery wasn't taken away, in B89 he wore armor and the mystery wasn't taken away ... and in B89 the thugs even found out for sure it was body armor. The criminals in Gotham know nothing of that. They think he's this humanoid bat-demon that is coming for them in the darkness of the city. It goes back to Batman: Year One the comic. Gordon is explaining to his wife, "any man who wears a cape, and it is a cape, I've seen it ... it's not wings", explains how legitimate tools and weapons can be converted through theatricality to give people an entirely different perspective.briliant post.
100% agreee with you i am.

[Crook]

ok now i understand you.

in the begininng of the movie hegets a new survival suit and theen when it gets damaged he makes some changes on the suit?


but wasnt it reported that he has the old suit at the beginning and then something happens to the suit( watter) and he gets a new one?
It was reported that there was a suit change somewhere in the film, but I don't know if it was specified that Bats was still wearing the old BB suit. And looking at TDK's suit, I don't think it would be the one he would change into. Supposedly Bruce makes changes because the suit was too heavy/restricting, if anything, TDK's version looks heavier than BB's did.

That just makes no sense to me, Sage. How does that kill the "mystery" aura? If anything, it adds to it. Batman is moving so fast and precise, the enemy doesn't know he's wearing armor. Batman doesn't stand and pose for pictures, and / or explain to the guys while they're shooting at him, that he is wearing armor. He's not all: "Nanana boo boo, you can't hit me, I'm wearing armor!!!"

So when they do shoot @ him, and he keeps going, that certainly adds to the "mystery" of the character through the enemy's p.o.v, does it not? If the bullets or things are hitting him and it has no effect, that doesn't creep the opposition out? You've got to be kidding me.

In BEGINS he wore armor and the mystery wasn't taken away, in B89 he wore armor and the mystery wasn't taken away ... and in B89 the thugs even found out for sure it was body armor. The criminals in Gotham know nothing of that. They think he's this humanoid bat-demon that is coming for them in the darkness of the city. It goes back to Batman: Year One the comic. Gordon is explaining to his wife, "any man who wears a cape, and it is a cape, I've seen it ... it's not wings", explains how legitimate tools and weapons can be converted through theatricality to give people an entirely different perspective.
Co-sign. I think too many of ya'll aren't really looking at this from the movie characters' perspective (ironic since that seems to be the focal point of this argument).

This publicity shot was clearly lit to show most of the details seen on the suit, and is not indicative of how it'll look most of the time throughout the flick. IF Nolan does his job right, then this whole issue wouldn't be a concern simply because Bats would be too fast for anyone to get a good look at him. And even if they do, it wouldn't be much since Bats would probably be in the shadows anyway.

[sasquatchs]

If they don't carry on the mystery theme then all of Ra's spiel was pretty much a waste of time. He's only a few weeks into his career so I'm sure Nolan won't be transitioning to a man in a cape yet

[dark_b]

It was reported that there was a suit change somewhere in the film, but I don't know if it was specified that Bats was still wearing the old BB suit. And looking at TDK's suit, I don't think it would be the one he would change into. Supposedly Bruce makes changes because the suit was too heavy/restricting, if anything, TDK's version looks heavier than BB's did.


Co-sign. I think too many of ya'll aren't really looking at this from the movie characters' perspective (ironic since that seems to be the focal point of this argument).

This publicity shot was clearly lit to show most of the details seen on the suit, and is not indicative of how it'll look most of the time throughout the flick. IF Nolan does his job right, then this whole issue wouldn't be a concern simply because Bats would be too fast for anyone to get a good look at him. And even if they do, it wouldn't be much since Bats would probably be in the shadows anyway.IMO it doesnt. it looks like a fabrick suit with armour on top of it. the BB suit looks like heavy ruber to me. watch the pic from arkham. looks very wide and heavy IMO.

[The Kid]

nice :up:

both are just human and need a suit that protects them,where they can move and is practical.

One's a secret ops soldier sent out on top secret missions using high tech camo to conceal himself during his missions though :huh: and on top of that he's a videogame character.

But still it may be the inspiration for the new suit.

However, I am still not very happy with these rubber/armor suits.

It's like giving the 300 spartans full armor for their fight or conan a full suit of armor for his battles.

Batman may be a man, but he's not you or me. he's a man who's put his body through hell to go beyond any normal man physically so he wouldn't need to wear armor like the spartans in 300... I think it's pretty sad that nolan feels the need to have batman continue to be a pussy and wear protective underoos when he goes out, but so be it... another bat film, another rubber suit... here we go again

[dark_b]

One's a secret ops soldier sent out on top secret missions using high tech camo to conceal himself during his missions though :huh: and on top of that he's a videogame character.

But still it may be the inspiration for the new suit.

However, I am still not very happy with these rubber/armor suits.

It's like giving the 300 spartans full armor for their fight or conan a full suit of armor for his battles.

Batman may be a man, but he's not you or me. he's a man who's put his body through hell to go beyond any normal man physically so he wouldn't need to wear armor like the spartans in 300... I think it's pretty sad that nolan feels the need to have batman continue to be a pussy and wear protective underoos when he goes out, but so be it... another bat film, another rubber suit... here we go againinteresting opinion.
maybe in third you will get the suti you want.

[itsthebatman]

One's a secret ops soldier sent out on top secret missions using high tech camo to conceal himself during his missions though :huh: and on top of that he's a videogame character.

But still it may be the inspiration for the new suit.

However, I am still not very happy with these rubber/armor suits.

It's like giving the 300 spartans full armor for their fight or conan a full suit of armor for his battles.

Batman may be a man, but he's not you or me. he's a man who's put his body through hell to go beyond any normal man physically so he wouldn't need to wear armor like the spartans in 300... I think it's pretty sad that nolan feels the need to have batman continue to be a pussy and wear protective underoos when he goes out, but so be it... another bat film, another rubber suit... here we go again
In the latter-day comics, it's prettyy clear that Batman is wearing armour (usually a Kevlar mesh or something like that, and in DKR and Bruce Wayne:Fugitive there are pictures of him wearing it.
So is comics Batman a pussy then?

[Crook]

Batman may be a man, but he's not you or me. he's a man who's put his body through hell to go beyond any normal man physically so he wouldn't need to wear armor like the spartans in 300... I think it's pretty sad that nolan feels the need to have batman continue to be a pussy and wear protective underoos when he goes out, but so be it... another bat film, another rubber suit... here we go again
Regardless of how anyone feels about the design, be it they prefer the knight-swat look, or the armored fabric, it still has one thing in common; protection.

For a guy as dedicated and smart as Bruce is, one has to think in the long run. Simply put, you will not last if you go out fighting crime, day in and day out, without anything protecting you. It's just plain idiotic.

[GEDRedemption]

"Would someone please explain to me how a cut smile is more realistic than a natural smile?"

A cut smile is more natural than a smile made by bad plastic surgery.

[Crook]

"Would someone please explain to me how a cut smile is more realistic than a natural smile?"

A cut smile is more natural than a smile made by bad plastic surgery.
That didn't answer the question.

[Benstamania]

Love it.

[GEDRedemption]

It's like giving the 300 spartans full armor for their fight or conan a full suit of armor for his battles.

Didn't 300 out of 300 Spartans die in that movie?

[samsnee]

The top half of the suit is cool but the bottom half looks retarded.

[The Kid]

In the latter-day comics, it's prettyy clear that Batman is wearing armour (usually a Kevlar mesh or something like that, and in DKR and Bruce Wayne:Fugitive there are pictures of him wearing it.
So is comics Batman a pussy then?

Good question. I'd say the batman with robin by his side wasn't a pussy. If nolan's got balls he'll tackle robin's story and make it work than skimming the surface of batman's story based on what a few fanboys think is cool and what burton's done since the 80s.

bruce timm ftw

[GEDRedemption]

That didn't answer the question.

I was correcting your (Edit: his) incorrect assumption that Nolan was implying the cut smile is more natural than a real smile. When the cut smile is being done for the sake of making the atmosphere and look of Joker in Burton's seem more plausable.

But to answer your question specifically, one is not more natural than the other. A natural smile is more common. But a cut smile, in the case of "The Dark Knight" is "natural".

[Crook]

I was correcting your incorrect assumption that Nolan was implying the cut smile is more natural than a real smile. When the cut smile is being done for the sake of making the atmosphere and look of Joker in Burton's seem more plausable.
I'm pretty sure I didn't ask that question. I was just commenting that you completely avoided his question. :huh:

But to answer your question specifically, one is not more natural than the other. A natural smile is more common. But a cut smile, in the case of "The Dark Knight" is "natural".
In that sense, yes. But if we're talking about throwing out one of them, because the other wouldn't "fit", then I'd say it's plain wrong. If Nolan chose to go the cut smile route simply because of a design preference, then fine. If it was because he didn't think a natural smile would somehow blend with his vision, I simply can't fathom how that makes sense.

[itsthebatman]

Good question. I'd say the batman with robin by his side wasn't a pussy. If nolan's got balls he'll tackle robin's story and make it work than skimming the surface of batman's story based on what a few fanboys think is cool and what burton's done since the 80s.

bruce timm ftw
Well this is a different point altogether. The third film could certainly introduce Dick Grayson, and work with a story with elements from TAS (Robin's Reckoning), LOTDK #100 and Dark Victory.
I do think Nolan is using elements from the O'Neil/Adams 70's era as well though. His Batman/Bruce Wayne seemed more driven than obsessed, less like the obsessed pseudo-psychopath of the 90s and early 00s. The use of the penthouse is also a nod to this era, and Ra's al Ghul's heyday was very much in the 70s. So I don't think Nolan is 'skimming the surface'. He's certainly not pandering to fanboys expectations, and is not just following Burton's interpreation either.

Paul Dini ftw.

EDIT: The cut-smile discussion? Wrong thread, people.

[The Kid]

Well this is a different point altogether. The third film could certainly introduce Dick Grayson, and work with a story with elements from TAS (Robin's Reckoning), LOTDK #100 and Dark Victory.
I do think Nolan is using elements from the O'Neil/Adams 70's era as well though. His Batman/Bruce Wayne seemed more driven than obsessed, less like the obsessed pseudo-psychopath of the 90s and early 00s. The use of the penthouse is also a nod to this era, and Ra's al Ghul's heyday was very much in the 70s. So I don't think Nolan is 'skimming the surface'. He's certainly not pandering to fanboys expectations, and is not just following Burton's interpreation either.

Paul Dini ftw.

EDIT: The cut-smile discussion? Wrong thread, people.

Sigh, this always happens. Well that's what I'm against, Nolan cherry picking from the comics to appease fanboys. Where was Rachel in the books?

All I want from Nolan at this point is for him to do a batman movie, not Ninja-man, not Swat-man, I want batman.

From this, it seems like he's set batman up to become a war machine, while that's fine, and is part of batman. Batman's more about brains than brawn to me.

That's why Terry couldn't really cut it as batman without bruce coaching him. All the tech in his suit didn't match up to the incredible mind batman had that could out-wit his opponents. Good lawd! I pray Nolan doesn't just listen to his sycophants. good lawd!

Mark Hamill FTW

[itsthebatman]

Sigh, this always happens. Well that's what I'm against, Nolan cherry picking from the comics to appease fanboys. Where was Rachel in the books?
What always happens? And what do you want? You complain when he uses elements from the comics, but isn't that what we want to see? I mean, did you applaud when Rachel was announced? 'Yes! A made-up character instead of that stupid Selina Kyle!'
All I want from Nolan at this point is for him to do a batman movie, not Ninja-man, not Swat-man, I want batman.

From this, it seems like he's set batman up to become a war machine, while that's fine, and is part of batman. Batman's more about brains than brawn to me.

That's why Terry couldn't really cut it as batman without bruce coaching him. All the tech in his suit didn't match up to the incredible mind batman had that could out-wit his opponents. Good lawd! I pray Nolan doesn't just listen to his sycophants. good lawd!

Mark Hamill FTW

I have never watched Batman Beyond so can't comment. We have no indication that Nolan's NOT going to emphasise Bats detective skills as wll, but a publicity shot of him in the cave poring over police documents wouldn't be as cool as Batman on a freakin' police car!

Kevin Conroy FTW.

[Dark Knight]

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/DKbatsuit.jpg

=

http://www.qwipster.net/steel.jpg

:whatever:



Nice try....but not even close.....this new suit is bad a$$!

[PretentiousMan]

*didn't really like Robin in BTAS*

[Dark Knight]

I think people have an issue with it because : a) it's very busy and detailed, taking away from the smooth look of previous costumes, and b) it's very obviously armour, which makes him look more like a man in a suit of armour, and less like a man-shaped Bat, less of a creature of the night.
I like this suit, not sole on ledger's look, but greatly looking forward to his portrayal.
Don't worry, you're not alone.



Nah...i think some fanboys in here (not people LOL) have an issue with it because they can never be satisfied and they are the type of people that will look for anything to nit pick and whine about.

[FlawlessVictory]

Sigh, this always happens. Well that's what I'm against, Nolan cherry picking from the comics to appease fanboys. Where was Rachel in the books?

All I want from Nolan at this point is for him to do a batman movie, not Ninja-man, not Swat-man, I want batman.

From this, it seems like he's set batman up to become a war machine, while that's fine, and is part of batman. Batman's more about brains than brawn to me.

That's why Terry couldn't really cut it as batman without bruce coaching him. All the tech in his suit didn't match up to the incredible mind batman had that could out-wit his opponents. Good lawd! I pray Nolan doesn't just listen to his sycophants. good lawd!

Mark Hamill FTW

LOL, Wesyeed, just curious, I see you post a lot on SHH!, tearing into Singer's Superman movie, Nolan's Batman movies(Ninjaman Begins, Swatman etc..) the Spider-Man movies you've torn apart, I'm assuming you don't like Burton's Batman movies since "Nolan is the new Burton" which I guess has some negative connotation considering you put that in your sig after the Joker pic dropped and you hate that pic. So, what do you like and don't complain about around here, just Ghost Rider? :huh:

Not that you're not allowed to complain. Complain to your heart's content. :yay:

[The Kid]

What always happens? And what do you want? You complain when he uses elements from the comics, but isn't that what we want to see? I mean, did you applaud when Rachel was announced? 'Yes! A made-up character instead of that stupid Selina Kyle!'


Kevin Conroy FTW.

omg how long have you been here?

Whenever someone says they want nolan to pay more attention to the comics, someone brings up their handy dandy list of things Nolan pulled straight from the comics in Begins and says "see, just like the comics. What the heck are you complaining about stooopid! you dumb dumb"

And all one can do is :whatever: knowing that yes joe chill killed the parents, but bruce needs to be slapped by joey to realize he should fight crime... :dry:

[itsthebatman]

Nah...i think some fanboys in here (not people LOL) have an issue with it because they can never be satisfied and they are the type of people that will look for anything to nit pick and whine about.
I'm interested in a career in politics. I was trying out my diplomacy.
Seriously, though, some people just don't like it for good reasons (too armoury etc), but that just doesn't bother me as mcuh as it does others.

[The Kid]

LOL, Wesyeed, just curious, I see you post a lot on SHH!, tearing into Singer's Superman movie, Nolan's Batman movies(Ninjaman Begins, Swatman etc..) the Spider-Man movies you've torn apart, I'm assuming you don't like Burton's Batman movies since "Nolan is the new Burton" which I guess has some negative connotation considering you put that in your sig after the Joker pic dropped and you hate that pic. So, what do you like and don't complain about around here, just Ghost Rider? :huh:

Not that you're not allowed to complain. Complain to your heart's content. :yay:

You clearly haven't been following my posts throughout the last few months.

As is obvious, yes I don't think Nolan is god. I don't think he invented batman. And I think he's the new burton. Make of that what you will.

[itsthebatman]

omg how long have you been here?

Whenever someone says they want nolan to pay more attention to the comics, someone brings up their handy dandy list of things Nolan pulled straight from the comics in Begins and says "see, just like the comics. What the heck are you complaining about stooopid! you dumb dumb"

And all one can do is :whatever: knowing that yes joe chill killed the parents, but bruce needs to be slapped by joey to realize he should fight crime... :dry:
You weren't very specific in 'This always happens' so excuse me for clarifying. Did I call you dumb? I don't believe so.
Yes, he's using elements from the comics. Again, it's better than not using the. What do you want, a straight-up adaptation of 'The Man Who Falls'? Or panel-for-panel of Year One?
He's not going to use every aspect of the comics mythology. So i take what I can get, and am happy for him using those.

[Darkest Knight]

Wesyeed thought Ghost Rider was a good movie. AND THAT'S ALL that needs to be said about the guy.

:woot:

He obviously doesn't know his stuff.

[FlawlessVictory]

You clearly haven't been following my posts throughout the last few months.

As is obvious, yes I don't think Nolan is god. I don't think he invented batman. And I think he's the new burton. Make of that what you will.

That's fine, I actually have no problem with that. I was just more curious as to what movies you really like and are a big fan of in this genre only b/c the majority of the posts that I have read from you are complaints about the above movies I mentioned with the exception of Ghost Rider.

[Octoberist]

but Ghost Rider was a very awkwardly made bad flick..

[Baba Ghanoush]

I hope everyone realizes that lighting is playing a huge factor in how the suit looks. If BB is any indication, the exo-skeleton texture will be much more subtle on screen as the texture of the BB suit was muted when on camera.

[Darkest Knight]

I love that they put the official movie logo on his chest this time. Nice update.

[The Kid]

You weren't very specific in 'This always happens' so excuse me for clarifying. Did I call you dumb? I don't believe so.
Yes, he's using elements from the comics. Again, it's better than not using the. What do you want, a straight-up adaptation of 'The Man Who Falls'? Or panel-for-panel of Year One?
He's not going to use every aspect of the comics mythology. So i take what I can get, and am happy for him using those.

I'm one of the people on here who's open minded and doesn't really care about doing every comic movie like sin city or 300

I'm just very sick of rubber suits that's all.

[Alexia Dark]

Sorry to butt into the convo here, but, well, this is a Batsuit discussion thread, so I guess I'll offer my thoughts...

I love the cowl. Perfect shape, glad it allows Bale to move now. But I'm not so fond of all the high-tech designs. It's too much, too intricate. Batman is, as far as I know, supposed to be mysterious and, well, Bat-like. That's hard to do when you're covered in head-to-toe designs that look like they're inspired by a microchip. Nothing all that 'mysterious' in that. I wish they'd just updated the cowl and kept the Begins suit.

[Joker]

Yeah.

Hey are you excited for Metal Gear Batman?

Look, usually you're a good poster. But now you're just trolling. We get it, you don't like the suit (even though it looks nothing like the suit from Steel, that's another ridiculous comparison), you can stop making 10 posts a minute about how much you don't like it. It's just a movie, move on with your life.

[The Kid]

but Ghost Rider was a very awkwardly made bad flick..

People try to use ghost rider against me, but it won't work because Ghost Rider's not a top tier comic character. He's somewhere slightly above blade.

I'd say his flick was on par with punisher. But oh noes! If you enjoyed the booobs and the cgi, you must be the anti christ!

[itsthebatman]

I'm one of the people on here who's open minded and doesn't really care about doing every comic movie like sin city or 300

I'm just very sick of rubber suits that's all.
Fine about the suits.
I still have no idea what you're looking for from this movie.

[General Vulcun]

I hear BOF is getting the Hi-Res pic of the Batsuit sometime next week.

[Sarge 2.0]

How is Weyseed getting away with such blatant trolling? Are the mods on holiday?

[Superman Prime]

I wonder if Ledger will reprise his own knightly role in TDK. Him and Batman would make great jousting opponents.

instead of "Wiiillliiiiaaam!"

He'd need to yell:

"JOOOOOOOKEEEER!"

[dark_b]

I'm one of the people on here who's open minded and doesn't really care about doing every comic movie like sin city or 300

I'm just very sick of rubber suits that's all.i think....not :dry:

[Joker]

I wonder if Ledger will reprise his own knightly role in TDK. Him and Batman would make great jousting opponents.

honestly, as long as he isnt acting like he did in The Brothers Grimm, I'll be happy...that movie sucked :o

[Octoberist]

Weyseed is not a troll but he's like to overexagerate things for fun, i guess. I mean, i think he(?) knows what this is and won't hide it: a board about superhero movies. So i'm just saying don't take his comments too seriously.

[Hunter Rider]

How is Weyseed getting away with such blatant trolling? Are the mods on holiday?

Holiday would be a fine thing:csad:

[itsthebatman]

Holiday would be a fine thing:csad:
Poor ickle Hunter Rider. Overworked and underappreciated.
I'll lend you my house in the west of Ireland for a dirty weekend with your significant other:cwink:

[The Kid]

i think....not :dry:

Really? Everyone points to how perfect begins was because it had more stuff from the comic in it while all the stuff that's not from the comic like Rachel gets bashed.

Who was here defending Dawes?

me

[dark_b]

Really? Everyone points to how perfect begins was because it had more stuff from the comic in it while all the stuff that's not from the comic like Rachel gets bashed.

Who was here defending Dawes?

meand that makes you an open minded guy when it comes to comic book movies?

[DarthSkywalker]

You clearly haven't been following my posts throughout the last few months.

As is obvious, yes I don't think Nolan is god. I don't think he invented batman. And I think he's the new burton. Make of that what you will.

Nolan made Memento and The Prestige. You may not like the guy but he is no Burton. He may be the exact opposite of Burton.

What you don't seem to like is that he is making a Batman that is what is at the heart of the character. He has taken a idea broken over the decades of comic and turned it into something more then a flawed design. A design that works because people go ga-ga for the guy that can supposively beat up Superman as long as he has a few hours to prepare.

Nolan is making Batman. Not God.

[The Kid]

Look, usually you're a good poster. But now you're just trolling. We get it, you don't like the suit (even though it looks nothing like the suit from Steel, that's another ridiculous comparison), you can stop making 10 posts a minute about how much you don't like it. It's just a movie, move on with your life.

Lighten up. Aren't you the Joker afterall?

I'm just really blown away by how robotic batman looks... good lawd, nolan.

[Octoberist]

Here's the thing: If people think Batman Begins is perfect, then let them think that.

The internet is such a cynical place: How often do you see a fairly loyal following without a backlash? Rare.. Blind allegiance is bad too but what's wrong with people enthusiastic about Batman or whomever?

There's always a backlash for something, to the point where it devalues the property. That's why people get defensive.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Metal Gear Batman is kinda the point. A suit built for survival and advanced infantry. A sneaking suit.

THe Batman Begins costume was the same thing.....

[The Kid]

and that makes you an open minded guy when it comes to comic book movies?

Yes.

I don't mindlessly think "if it not like comic. it bad! durrr"

[Cinemaman]

Poor ickle Hunter Rider. Overworked and underappreciated.
I'll lend you my house in the west of Ireland for a dirty weekend with your significant other


May I keep him company?

[The Kid]

Nolan made Memento and The Prestige. You may not like the guy but he is no Burton. He may be the exact opposite of Burton.

What you don't seem to like is that he is making a Batman that is what is at the heart of the character. He has taken a idea broken over the decades of comic and turned it into something more then a flawed design. A design that works because people go ga-ga for the guy that can supposively beat up Superman as long as he has a few hours to prepare.

Nolan is making Batman. Not God.

Nolan got a free pass with Begins, plain and simple. We got so royally screwed by schumacher, anything that was tone down, even to burton's level would have been recieved with open arms.

Now is Nolan's real test. He has to top himself.

[Riven]

In concept, it's the exact same suit as the one in Begins. I don't get what the big deal is about.

It's a great design, I like it!

[The Watchman]

Thing is, when people come to uneducated opinions on either side of the coin it's moronic - to like something for the sake of liking it, or to hate something for the sake of hating it is inexcusable...

Some people need to be a bit more versatile in the way they communicate with others.

Personally, I don't dig the look - it's alright, not what I would have preferred overall. If people like it, that's cool with me as long as they like it for the right reasons, same with the people who are appalled. Don't be a sheep - either way, relativism thrown aside for now.

Have to see what it looks like in the movie, won't be drastically different, but with lighting and such who knows what it'll end up looking like on screen.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I thought Ghost Rider was a good movie. People are insane if they expect some kind of deep, psyhcolgical, thematic story on a character that is, at best, a B-level superhero by being overshadowed with other "Stars of Comics".

Plus, it's impossible to come out with a film that has the devil, and anti-christ types, and be serious and expect it to do well in this country. Blue America, and all.....so, I thought the movie did the right thing in how it was approached. It was a good flick.

I think the costume change could happen in the beginning or the middle (from BB to TDK) depending on how much time has passed between the film's story arcs. If it's right after....it will need to be explained.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

The awesomness is scary, I guess.

[DarthSkywalker]

Nolan got a free pass with Begins, plain and simple. We got so royally screwed by schumacher, anything that was tone down, even to burton's level would have been recieved with open arms.

Now is Nolan's real test. He has to top himself.

Which is what he is doing. He saved Mr. J for a reason. The first film was a test.

But saying he got a free pass is insane. He had to relaunch a franchise that should of been destroyed.

[DarthSkywalker]

I thought Ghost Rider was a good movie. People are insane if they expect some kind of deep, psyhcolgical, thematic story on a character that is, at best, a B-level superhero by being overshadowed with other "Stars of Comics".

Plus, it's impossible to come out with a film that has the devil, and anti-christ types, and be serious and expect it to do well in this country. Blue America, and all.....so, I thought the movie did the right thing in how it was approached. It was a good flick.

I think the costume change could happen in the beginning or the middle (from BB to TDK) depending on how much time has passed between the film's story arcs. If it's right after....it will need to be explained.


Ghost Rider's doesn't need to be deep, but it also didn't have to trend into the cheese level of a bad 80s action flick. Which is what to many Marvel films are these days.

[Riven]

The awesomness is scary, I guess.
Hehe, must be!

I love how it's more or less the same progression from movie to movie as the Burton movies followed. Really cool suit in the first one, but kinda rough around the edges and in the second one, a sleeker, sharper, but also more robotic looking suit. I've always loved the Batman Returns costume best, but I think now I may have a new favorite in this one! I'm eager to see more pics to help make up my mind... not to mention seeing it in action!

[The Kid]

Metal Gear Batman is kinda the point. A suit built for survival and advanced infantry. A sneaking suit.

THe Batman Begins costume was the same thing.....

Well now he can turn his head in it I guess.

Did I give this suit an official Name, CBB? Metal Gear Batman, is it? That's what we'll call it.

Honestly it looks like the original suit, torn apart to expose what's underneath....

[DarthSkywalker]

I brought of the Metal Gear likiness before. Personally it is a plus for me. The suits are pretty much of the same principle.

[itsthebatman]

The awesomness is scary, I guess.
'Why awesomeness, Master Bruce?'
'Awesomeness frightens me. Its time my enemies shared my dread.'

[Spider-Bat]

Well, when I heard about the new suit it sounded like something more from the comics, but it just looks like the one from BB but, kind of a mix with the sonar suit from 'Forever'. It's cool, but I could do without the fins on the gloves shooting at people.

Scale of 1-10, I give it a 5. I'd love to see a Batman movie where the suit looks natural and scary, not something that looks like Ironman with ears. I'll just go watch the Burton films for a real Batman movie.

[Juanigi]

so far there's been bot-man and bat-map, at least metal gear is a backhanded compliment.

[itsthebatman]

May I keep him company?
Only if you ask nicely.And pay me a shedload of cash.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well now he can turn his head in it I guess.

He could turn his head in Batman Begins......

Did I give this suit an official Name, CBB? Metal Gear Batman, is it? That's what we'll call it.

Well, I thought that's what they called the Batman Begins suit too.

Honestly it looks like the original suit, torn apart to expose what's underneath....

Yeah, kinda. It looks like the original suit, with some upgrades, and a little easier on the paint job. Which, remember, was a complaint. That the paint finish made it look rubber and not like armor. This one fixed that.

[itsthebatman]

Well, when I heard about the new suit it sounded like something more from the comics, but it just looks like the one from BB but, kind of a mix with the sonar suit from 'Forever'. It's cool, but I could do without the fins on the gloves shooting at people.

Scale of 1-10, I give it a 5. I'd love to see a Batman movie where the suit looks natural and scary, not something that looks like Ironman with ears. I'll just go watch the Burton films for a real Batman movie.
The Burton movies with a Batman who kills, a freak monster Penguin and a supernatural Catwoman?

[CFE]

I'll just go watch the Burton films for a real Batman movie.

That's a bit narrow-minded, isn't it?

People are looking at the suit WAY too closely.

"OMG he's got knee cap pads; Christ!"

I've stayed away from here for two days to let it sink in, and I have to stay the suit still works for me.

For a guy fighting a war on crime, I believe in Bruce deciding to wear this suit rather than any of the suits from the Burton/Schumacher films.

If Keaton, Kilmer or Clooney approached Bale in this suit, he'd make them crap their thick-in-places latex and rubber nippled suits with nothing but a stern look.

CFE

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, when I heard about the new suit it sounded like something more from the comics, but it just looks like the one from BB but, kind of a mix with the sonar suit from 'Forever'. It's cool, but I could do without the fins on the gloves shooting at people


The look like batarangs to me.....I'm guessing they'll be like the sharp batarangs that Batman tosses at bad guys hand cutting the up a bit.

They can't be for lethal use....that's be....well....useless.

[dark_b]

He could turn his head in Batman Begins......



Well, I thought that's what they called the Batman Begins suit too.



Yeah, kinda. It looks like the original suit, with some upgrades, and a little easier on the paint job. Which, remember, was a complaint. That the paint finish made it look rubber and not like armor. This one fixed that.why didnt he turn hes head when he looked at rachel in the tumbler?:yay:

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I'll just go watch the Burton films for a real Batman movie.


Kinda moot, when you consider the fact that you CAN'T watch this movie now, isn't it?

Batman was better than Batman Returns, btw.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

why didnt he turn hes head when he looked at rachel in the tumbler?:yay:


Looked like he did.

[Superman Prime]

The Burton movies with a Batman who kills, a freak monster Penguin and a supernatural Catwoman?

It's worth noting that the original concept of Batman included killing. While I am inclined toward the 'leave capital punishment to the justice system' take on the character (more recent), we have to understand that Burton's Batman didn't make a habit of going around killing people (the man with the strapped-on bomb didn't necessarily die . . . I heard someone describe on here what a confetti bomb is).

[souloffire]

Nah...i think some fanboys in here (not people LOL) have an issue with it because they can never be satisfied and they are the type of people that will look for anything to nit pick and whine about.Then there's the people who except anything Nolan does because they have INWT In Nolan We Trust! in their sig.

[Mercurius]

In concept, it's the exact same suit as the one in Begins. I don't get what the big deal is about.

It's a great design, I like it!

It's a great design, more flexible (thank God) and all. A like it very much, for instance.

But...

The problems: a) it seems (please note "it seems") not black enough; b) the design of the parts is overdone, excessive, confused.

[itsthebatman]

It's worth noting that the original concept of Batman included killing. While I am inclined toward the 'leave capital punishment to the justice system' take on the character (more recent), we have to understand that Burton's Batman didn't make a habit of going around killing people (the man with the strapped-on bomb didn't necessarily die . . . I heard someone describe on here what a confetti bomb is).
Oh, aye, he wasn't a serial killer. But he killed Ray Charles and the Joker. The comics (since the early days) have been at pains recently to show him not killing, to the extent of bringing Joker back from the light in Last Laugh.
I just think to make that kind of sweeping statement is kinds asinine.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Guys.....the suit is popular. So, as strange as it seems....MOST of the fanboys do love it. The poll at the front page of SHH and the poll in here suggests that.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

There was cheese...but it was good cheese.

[dark_b]

Looked like he did.if i remember correctly he had to turn hes torso also :cwink:

[Superman Prime]

Oh, aye, he wasn't a serial killer. But he killed Ray Charles and the Joker. The comics (since the early days) have been at pains recently to show him not killing, to the extent of bringing Joker back from the light in Last Laugh.
I just think to make that kind of sweeping statement is kinds asinine.

Well ... recent as in not primordial.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

if i remember correctly he had to turn hes torso also :cwink:

You mean when he put his hand on her to make sure she was all right?:cwink:

[dark_b]

You mean when he put his hand on her to make sure she was all right?:cwink:i think it is the sceen when the tumbler is very quiet and he says stay with me. i will go watch it now.

:woot:

[Darkest Knight]

There was cheese...but it was good cheese.
Ummm, is there such a thing? Corny is corny. Cheesy is cheesy. Overdone is overdone.

There is such a thing as liking a BAD MOVIE. However there is a substantial difference between saying a BAD MOVIE is a GOOD MOVIE. I like Beverely Hills Ninja, and that movie was horrible. Like saying cheese is good cheese is completely an oxymoron.

To be as ignorant to say that one couldn't turn a B-level character into something serious and well done is ridiculously stupid. Blade at best was a D or C level comic book character, and his first two movies are two of the best superhero films ever made. Ghost Rider on the screen could've been an even cooler concept than that. It could have been a truly terrifying horror movie. Kind of like say, the first Swamp Thing. I mean, you're arguing with me about this, and your boy who wrote your favorite movie (I.E. Batman Begins) completely disagrees with you. David Goyer turned in a serious, horror movie concept that was utterly bad ass from what I am told, and instread the studio opted out for something more blockbuster-ish ... that went back and forth from being almost serious and being completely like a bad saturday morning cartoon.

The script for GR is atrocious, the dialogue is pathetic, the acting is worse than some spanish soap operas (here's looking at you Wes Bently) ... the movie just as awhole is terrible. However, I do enjoy it for as bad of a movie as it is. But on the other hand, I also know how great it COULD'VE been.

[Darkest Knight]

I'm so pumped for the ability for Bale to completely turn his head. We got glimpses in BEGINS. He was able to move his head up and down fine in that film, but the neck still didn't allow him to turn to his sides very well. The first picture for TDK shows that he will now be able to, which is quite cool, and has been needed for awhile now.

[spider-neil]

http://www.alexrossart.com/wallpapers/batmanscars_thumb.jpg
This is what you have in mind no?


exactly.
that is freaking awesome!!!

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Yeah, dark b. He turned and he touched her with his right hand.

I think he turned his head on the part where she fainted and he yelled her name. Although, if memory seves me well, he had his hand on the throtle for the rampless jump.

[fallenAngel]

I don't care for the suit. Way too busy. It reminds me of Batman action figures I had as a kid where they came with armor and like grenade launchers and such. I personally liked the Begins suit.

But if it provides for awesome fight scenes then I don't really care. I hate the Joker look too, but costumes have never been a source of antagonism for me really. I didn't even mind the Green Goblins suit in Spider man.

[ultimatefan]

Seeing people taking Wesyeed´s posts seriously is like seeing Mrs. Hoover paying attention to Ralph Wiggum´s answers.

Anyway, I´m done with these batsuit arguments. No matter the design, some people will always have excuses to bash it cuz deep down they´ll never be happy till the guy walks around in pajamas and trunks on top of his pants. If you can please the majority, that´s as good as it gets.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

exactly.
that is freaking awesome!!!

I thought it was a little excess.

I mean, he's trying to keep a playboy image. But, if anybody sees him with his shirt off.....he'll seem like he was a beaten to near death.

I mean, I dig the concept that his body suffers. But, there has to be a good balance or his playboy act wil mean nothing.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Seeing people taking Wesyeed´s posts seriously is like seeing Mrs. Hoover paying attention to Ralph Wiggum´s answers.



Yeah....I mean....me and Wesyeed go way back. I know he likes to **** with people.

The problem with me is...I honestly can't tell when he's ****ing with us anymore. I honestly can't tell anymore.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Yeah, I think there is such a thing as good cheese. Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 proved that.

I thought it was good. The story wasn't exactly deep. Pretty simple, but the journey of Blaze was served by it well enough.

I thought the acting was pretty good for the type of flick it was. I mean, Eva was great as the part she was filling. Nic Cage was....well...****ing Nic Cage. Mack. Man, Mack was great.

I thought Wes Bentley sucked, actually. Sam Elliot was awesome.

[The Kid]

I don't **** with people. They're already so ****ed up they run around screaming and hollering if someone dares to think for themselves.

[manofsteel4life]

I got a geek-gasm. :dry:
lol!!

[FCEEVIPER]

*didn't really like Robin in BTAS*
I thought the character was great in that. I liked it.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I don't **** with people. They're already so ****ed up they run around screaming and hollering if someone dares to think for themselves.


Ya know....you've got a point.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I thought Dick was great. Tim.....meh....

[Darkest Knight]

Spider-man and Spider-man 2 weren't cheesy in the slightest, bro. They had comedic timing, but weren't cheesy.

[Crook]

Spider-man and Spider-man 2 weren't cheesy in the slightest, bro. They had comedic timing, but weren't cheesy.
I'd have to disagree there. SM2 especially had lots of 'em:

"Punch me, I bleed!"

Lol. :o

[Superman Prime]

I gave the suit an 8. Not sure why anyone would give it a 10. That signifies there are no possible improvements in successors. Know one improvement that would be nice? Longer ears.

If there's one thing I appreciate, it's that realistically and hypothetically, if we saw a man wearing that suit in a dark alley: we'd know to take him seriously as he wants to be taken.

[The Kid]

He could turn his head in Batman Begins......

With a lot of strain, perhaps. Now as the article points out, it's been redesigned to allow easier movement.


Well, I thought that's what they called the Batman Begins suit too.

People called it 'teh puffy' if I recall. I always called it the sonar suit 2 myself.

Yeah, kinda. It looks like the original suit, with some upgrades, and a little easier on the paint job. Which, remember, was a complaint. That the paint finish made it look rubber and not like armor. This one fixed that.

Yeah, I agree. I'm a little more pleased with the less rubbery design, but goodness, does anyone seriously think batman needs this much armor? This is more than dare-devil wore. This is where I have to call out those who have preeched for years that batman needs to move lightning quick in battle because what I'm seeing in Metal Gear Batman could provide well for a soldier sneaking into do some sort of spy mission, but not a super fast ninja doing some damage. And I have to wonder how batman expects people to think he's a big mutant bat when it's pretty clear he's wearing a hi tech outfit... at least it seems like those ugly clasps have been removed. :hyper:

[Darkest Knight]

Man, I don't know ... wasn't he supposed to appear as cheesy TO Mary Jane in that scene? Like that's what was SUPPOSED to be happening. That's why she says "Whatever that means ...". That doesn't make either movie cheesy. Like I said, Spider-man and Spider-man 2 aren't cheesy. It doesn't count if it is intenionally being done within a scene. Peter Parker the character is awkward, dorky, and funny. Not really cheesy. The dialogue through out GR is text book definition of what "cheesy" is. Means it thinks it is being serious or cool, yet comes out extremely corny. That's what "cheesy" is.

[Crook]

Yeah, I agree. I'm a little more pleased with the less rubbery design, but goodness, does anyone seriously think batman needs this much armor? This is more than dare-devil wore. This is where I have to call out those who have preeched for years that batman needs to move lightning quick in battle because what I'm seeing in Metal Gear Batman could provide well for a soldier sneaking into do some sort of spy mission, but not a super fast ninja doing some damage.
Ever seen the MGS4 trailer? Raiden was wearing the same type of outfit, and he did some major damage in a bad-ass way. :o

And I have to wonder how batman expects people to think he's a big mutant bat when it's pretty clear he's wearing a hi tech outfit... at least it seems like those ugly clasps have been removed. :hyper:
Obvious to us, but if Nolan does his job right, it won't be obvious to the criminals in the movie.

[Iron Man's Dad]

Well I like it! :up:

Suits the title and theme of escalation perfectly IMHO. :yay:

Can't wait for this one.

My ecstatic $.02.

IMD

[Darkest Knight]

LMAO @ Wesyeed and his posts and/or ideas...

[Crook]

I'd say in either case cheesy = corny. Doesn't necessarily have to be intentionally cool, but coming out opposite.

With that said though, GR was horrible. Glad I didn't pay for it. SM1 & SM2 I consider to be pretty light-hearted films, with cheesy moments. Though that's not bad, as most of the cheesy stuff was intentional, but funny in a good way.

[Hunter Rider]

Poor ickle Hunter Rider. Overworked and underappreciated.
I'll lend you my house in the west of Ireland for a dirty weekend with your significant other:cwink:

Very nice,I'll crack the black book open:woot:

[Darkest Knight]

Obvious to us, but if Nolan does his job right, it won't be obvious to the criminals in the movie.
Just like the last movie, which is case in point why Wesyeed is making up excuses to not like it. The only people IN THE MOVIE who would even feasebly know it is armor the Batman wears, is: Lucious Fox, Alfred, Gordon, Rachel, and Dent. Everyone else, like the Gotham citizens, GPD, Mob, the Joker etc. Will have no idea he wears armor. They just know him as this urban legend boogey man.

And Dent knowing Batman is certainly human, will make a much more interesting conflict when he goes bad. Cause he will have no pre-concieved ideas of the Batman being a giant creature or demon. He will know he is a man, with protective weaponry and skills.

[Batman>all]

So are his blades on his forearms actually shootable? Or do you think they just retract into claws?

[The Kid]

Ever seen the MGS4 trailer? Raiden was wearing the same type of outfit, and he did some major damage in a bad-ass way. :o


Obvious to us, but if Nolan does his job right, it won't be obvious to the criminals in the movie.

Nobody likes raiden. :dry:

you should have used the ninja as an example.

But anyway, I think that proves my point further since the ninja wears a skin tight, hugs the butt crack, kind of suit. Very schumacher. Are you saying nolan's going that route with batman? :wow:

[Batman>all]

Batman in tights just will not work on screen or in real life.He is not Superman.He doesn't stop bullets with steel flesh or have x ray vision.....he has to have armor. I know I know....some people want a batman in underwear.But, Its just not realistic. Trust me, for the average fan and movie goer, if they saw Batman in tights they would not watch the movie in theaters. It would be a complete joke that no one could take seriously.

[Darkest Knight]

Batman in Victoria Secrets gear is a MUST, DAMMITT!!!!

[ChrisBaleBatman]

The thing is, no matter how much he does in the comics....Batman dodging bullets like they were apple seeds doesn't fit for what was set up in Batman Begins.

It doesn't look like THAT much armor, either. It looks like a suitable amount for not getting yourself killed.....or close to it.

The knee pads and shoulder pads are nice too. I know Batman would have liked to have those in Batman Beyond Return of the Joker, right when Joker stabbed him in his knee cap with a knife.

[Superman Prime]

Nobody likes raiden. :dry:

you should have used the ninja as an example.

But anyway, I think that proves my point further since the ninja wears a skin tight, hugs the butt crack, kind of suit. Very schumacher. Are you saying nolan's going that route with batman? :wow:

maybe he realized he'd have to gradually introduce us to super tight latex.

[Borat]

Batman in tights just will not work on screen or in real life.He is not Superman.He doesn't stop bullets with steel flesh or have x ray vision.....he has to have armor. I know I know....some people want a batman in underwear.But, Its just not realistic. Trust me, for the average fan and movie goer, if they saw Batman in tights they would not watch the movie in theaters. It would be a complete joke that no one could take seriously.yep all the non hardcore fans i know say he would not look good in a Superman or Spiderman type suit. it'd look too cheesy.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

But, corny doesn't equal bad. Spidey is a character that fits into that mold.

And, SM1 and SM2 were cheesy. Good cheese. SM3 too, I thought.

I'd be here all night if I had to point out the cheese in SM. I thought Ghost Rider was good.

I mean, honestly....what did you want from Ghost Rider? B/c, I had no real expectations b/c I know nothing of the character.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I'm a hardcore fan, comics and everything....and I'll always prefer the armor all black idea.

Doesn't mean I hate the gray mesh gear we get in the books, mind you.

[Crook]

Neither do I, but all I need to know is a guy cursed with this demonic character in the shape of a flaming skull....is not supposed to be portrayed in such a light-hearted way.

[Superman Prime]

Do stark black clothes make one stand out more in the dark than grays and browns? I read this a while ago on a site about ninjas. :| Sounds logical.

[The Kid]

The thing is, no matter how much he does in the comics....Batman dodging bullets like they were apple seeds doesn't fit for what was set up in Batman Begins.

It doesn't look like THAT much armor, either. It looks like a suitable amount for not getting yourself killed.....or close to it.

The knee pads and shoulder pads are nice too. I know Batman would have liked to have those in Batman Beyond Return of the Joker, right when Joker stabbed him in his knee cap with a knife.

but but but it's from the comics... :wow: :ninja:

And sadly why the current batman won't be seen as being a real tough guy.

I guess I just like the old school batman who wore his tights, and trained so well that he wasn't worried about being shot since he's so far beyond any criminal with his own martial arts, he'd just do a backflip and stuff and nothing would hit him... or pick up a sewer top and use that as a shield because he's so badass... :( What this tells me is that batman's scared he'll get hurt. Like a boxer wearing one of those cushiony helmet things. Yes, the batman we know from the comics is so driven, he's not scared of dying on the job, and well that's what I'd like to see... but ah, oh well... let's hope the movie's good.

[The Guard]

thanks for posting the pic though. i've been looking for that suit but couldn't find it. that's EXACTLY what i thought of when i first saw the new Batsuit and that's why i keep telling everyone that the new batsuit doesn't look robotic or mechanical, but instead TACTICAL.
But the Batsuit doesn't look like that picture. It has little segmented lines every which way. See how that guy's CROTCH isn't segmented? Yeah. Exactly. AND that guy isn't worried about looking like a creature of the night. Obviously Batman isn't either, at this point in the film.

I mean, if this suit is Batman's riot gear, that's one thing (even though it still looks absurd). If this is his actual suit from now on, then BOO!

Ok, at first I thought the armor detailing was over done. Now I do see the practical side to it. The many armor pieces over mesh would be the best way to give Batman the flexibility in movement he needs while having protection. Batman is a martial artist so he definitely needs a costume that can move around easily and that's what I see in the mesh with armor plates. This boots still bother me though. Looks like plain leather boots. 8/10

Funny, this is the SAME EXACT argument people gave in favor of the BEGINS Batsuit. So THAT wasn't good enough because...

[Chris Wallace]

I guess this is all a moot point now.

[spider-neil]

there were two things that bothered me in the first movie

a) the cape clasps
they SEEM (that what it looks like) to have fixed this

b) the horrible bluging between his clavicles (shoulder blades) and upper arm when he crossed his arms
this looks fixed as well.

need to see the outfit in motion

[regwec]

Why is so important for so many of you that Weyseed must agree with you? He should be flattered, I suppose.

[Steelsheen]

Nolan got a free pass with Begins, plain and simple. We got so royally screwed by schumacher, anything that was tone down, even to burton's level would have been recieved with open arms.

Now is Nolan's real test. He has to top himself.

you know you make a whole lot of sense if you would stop joking around ;)

[Sarge 2.0]

Why is so important for so many of you that Weyseed must agree with you? He should be flattered, I suppose.I think it's just the way that they've reacted to Weyseed being really ****ing annoying about the whole suit thing.

[The Kid]

I think it's just the way that they've reacted to Weyseed being really ****ing annoying about the whole suit thing.

hey give me a break. I was gone on business 4 a few days. I didn't know you guys were so uptight about this suit already. I'll leave my thoughts on it to my sig and that's that. You're free to do what you'd do whether I injected my thoughts or not... which is argue endlessly about nipples and stuff.

[The Kid]

you know you make a whole lot of sense if you would stop joking around ;)

Haven't you ever heard of the healing power of laughter?

[Sarge 2.0]

hey give me a break. I was gone on business 4 a few days. I didn't know you guys were so uptight about this suit already. I'll leave my thoughts on it to my sig and that's that. You're free to do what you'd do whether I injected my thoughts or not... which is argue endlessly about nipples and stuff.I'm not a part of the "guys" who you've blanketed as being "uptight" about the suit, and I still find your behavior annoying. And yeah, thanks for saving these boards where people endlessly argue about Bat-nipples and worship at the altar of Christopher Nolan with your insightful posts and discussion points. Much appreciated.

[Ecstasy]

It looks good. It looks more flexible to me, so that's a plus. Nice suit progression from BB.

[Superman Prime]

A lot of the BB goodness was pretty much by default. Any director of Nolan's calibur could've stepped in with their own vision and received equal praise that BB has gotten from Batfans.

Heck. Tim Story's take on Batman might've gotten a bunch of praise.

[Qwerty©]

Action heroes have taken on gunmen wearing only wife-beater vests and jeans and don't suffer a single bullet wound.

Why should Batman, a comic book superhero, have to completely protect himself in armour?

A leather costume like in Daredevil is what I would prefer. I'm going to accept the costume we have now, but it's not what I want.

[Spade]

I totally disagree that Batman Begins relied on the most part upon what the previous franchise did. Batman Begins had a better-paced story to tell that felt like it drew upon the best of the modern tales and didn't pander to outside influences- yes, even the fans. It's not just a matter of putting things up on celluloid. It was honestly a good film because it strived to be a good film and not just because it was better than the WB's skeleton in the closet.

[Superman Prime]

Well, like we're saying, TDK will put BB into perspective. How much it succeeded in its strive to be a good movie, will be revealed with the new context in 2008.

[Cobblepot]

Pacing is imo the only thing that is lacking in BB.

[itsthebatman]

Action heroes have taken on gunmen wearing only wife-beater vests and jeans and don't suffer a single bullet wound.

Why should Batman, a comic book superhero, have to completely protect himself in armour?

A leather costume like in Daredevil is what I would prefer. I'm going to accept the costume we have now, but it's not what I want.
Batman is going in prepared. He knows he's going into a war, so he gets himself ready. it's his prep time. John McClane didn't have that.

The point many people are missing is that this suit does not have more armour than the Begins suit, it's just more obvious because it's segemented. to allow for more movement, IMO.

[The Empire Ape]

Give Robocop his suit back!!!

[TheBat812]

wtf is all this robocop ****? It doesn't resemble robocop in the slightest except for his pose and the fact that it's armor. The actual look of the armor has no resemblence to Robocop.

[Superman Prime]

Give Robocop his suit back!!!

Hundreds of people beat you to it.

[Conebone69]

I think the new suit is starting to grow on me but im still not sure about the legs

[Justice Bringer]

I just hope they tone down all the designs on the armor by the next one and make it look more plain (less like a deluxe action figure)..

[Steelsheen]

Pacing is imo the only thing that is lacking in BB.

and editing for action sequences.

[Sarge 2.0]

Give Robocop his suit back!!!Maybe you'd look less like an idiot if you were the first person to say that...but you look even more like an idiot now that:

A.) You're the 30535084304830483408579505397th person to say that

and

B.) The suit looks nothing like Robocop at all.

[DSET]

edit.

[Delete]

No offense, but you'd have to be totally out of touch with reality to actually believe they'd ever put Batman in nothing more than a t-shirt for a blockbuster film.

If they went with fabric, he'd most certainly wear the same fabric that they used in Spider-Man or Superman Returns. And they hardly looked like "t-shirts".

I was going with hyperbole there. I know it would be more of a suit like that. I just really don't think something that thin works for a non Super Powered guy pretty much. You almost need the padding to make him look so much bigger.

[DSET]

Batman is going in prepared. He knows he's going into a war, so he gets himself ready. it's his prep time. John McClane didn't have that.

The point many people are missing is that this suit does not have more armour than the Begins suit, it's just more obvious because it's segemented. to allow for more movement, IMO.

Batman is going in prepared. He knows he's going into a war, so he gets himself ready. it's his prep time. John McClane didn't have that.

The point many people are missing is that this suit does not have more armour than the Begins suit, it's just more obvious because it's segemented. to allow for more movement, IMO.

That’s a great point

I have to say the suit is beginning to grow on me
It’s not all that bad
But its not all that great
It will do the job and that’s basically all we need from it
It’s just a batman suit, he's not a character like venom were his appearance means everything

However I still think there’s one to many unnecessary lines on the knee pads, abs etc. I have no clue why they added those weird bulls-eye circles on the knees.

[itsthebatman]

A lot of the BB goodness was pretty much by default. Any director of Nolan's calibur could've stepped in with their own vision and received equal praise that BB has gotten from Batfans.

Heck. Tim Story's take on Batman might've gotten a bunch of praise.
Tim Story? Unlikely. And no other director did step up to the plate and deliver a story that Warners would greenlight. Aronofsky and Petersen tried and failed. Nolan did. And he delivered. And not just of the crapfest that was B&R. BB is a great Batfilm and a great film. You talk as if directors of Nolan's calibre were ten-a-penny. They aren't.

[The-Dark-Knight]

Do we have any Hi Res versions of the picture yet? Prefrebly without all the numbers on?

[The Dude]

I want to see the blades on the gauntles get shot out. That could be really cool. Overall i think the suit looks awesom.

[The Kid]

Do we have any Hi Res versions of the picture yet? Prefrebly without all the numbers on?

best i could find


































http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/spider_man/willem_dafoe/spiderman.jpg

[itsthebatman]

best i could find


































http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/spider_man/willem_dafoe/spiderman.jpg
Do you have anything useful to contribute or are you just going to whine all night? I know, I should laugh a little, take things less seriously, but al least some of those who don't like aspects of where this movie is going, like regwec and donk70, can talk articulately about it.
What have you got?

[Wolfman]

best i could find


































http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/spider_man/willem_dafoe/spiderman.jpg

LOL! There you go. Ahhahahaha! I had to login just for this. Because, you know... the new "bat"suit is like the green goblins... Haha... am I being articulate enough?

[ultimatefan]

Action heroes have taken on gunmen wearing only wife-beater vests and jeans and don't suffer a single bullet wound.

Why should Batman, a comic book superhero, have to completely protect himself in armour?

A leather costume like in Daredevil is what I would prefer. I'm going to accept the costume we have now, but it's not what I want.

How many action heroes have taken on gunmen wearing leotards?

The only differente between wearing leather and the rubber armor is it´d be shinier and wrinklier, DD´s suit was about as thick and constraining as Batman´s.

Trust me, we´d have a ton of fanboys bitsching and moaning about leather too. you just can´t please everyone.

[Hunter Rider]

Trust me, we´d have a ton of fanboys bitsching and moaning about leather too. you just can´t please everyone.

Very true

[The Kid]

Do you have anything useful to contribute or are you just going to whine all night? I know, I should laugh a little, take things less seriously, but al least some of those who don't like aspects of where this movie is going, like regwec and donk70, can talk articulately about it.
What have you got?

this:

OMG BEST SUT EVAR11!!!!! NOLAN can do no wrong.

Am I cool now?

[Jack Rabbit]

Do you have anything useful to contribute or are you just going to whine all night? I know, I should laugh a little, take things less seriously, but al least some of those who don't like aspects of where this movie is going, like regwec and donk70, can talk articulately about it.
What have you got?

Shush. I may not agree with him, but Weyseed is funny. Take it as humor, stop complaining because someone doesn't agree with you, and move on.:whatever:

[Justice Bringer]

Batmans a power ranger like GG now ??

[bunk]

Sorry, I can't remember who wanted this.

Anyway, I put this through deviantART, it should stay up.

Try to ignore the symbol.

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/167/9/3/TDK_manip_by_Bunk2.jpg

[itsthebatman]

Shush. I may not agree with him, but Weyseed is funny. Take it as humor, stop complaining because someone doesn't agree with you, and move on.:whatever:
I'm not complaining because someone doesn't agree with me. Hell, I love a good argument.
Why does the sensible one have to move on while the smart-a$$ gets a free pass?

[Wolfman]

Batmans a power ranger like GG now ??

Yep, allthough I was fine with the green goblin outfit. But then again I never cared about him as much as Batman.

[Shoemeister]

this:

OMG BEST SUT EVAR11!!!!! NOLAN can do no wrong.

Am I cool now?

YAH u WAnna Joinb My CLub!!?!?!

[itsthebatman]

this:

OMG BEST SUT EVAR11!!!!! NOLAN can do no wrong.

Am I cool now?
God, you can be such an a$$. Did I not make myself clear? I'm not looking for people to agree, jusyt looking for a bit of intelligene debate thrown in amongst the wisecracks - it gets tiresome. The Green Goblin thing is old - get some new material.
And I'm done.

[Shoemeister]

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/167/9/3/TDK_manip_by_Bunk2.jpg

Certainly no offense to your artistic merit whatsoever, bunk, but this just goes to show you that the movie is on the right track and there are professionals working on it for a reason (design, that is).

[Sun_Down]

The more I think about this, the more I really wonder how much this suit will even be used. Most people are treating it as a replacement, but from what we've heard, it may only be used for part of the film. If that's the case, that's fine. As a "riot gear" sort of suit for an extreme circumstance, it's great. But as a replacement, it just fails, IMO.

[Steelsheen]

that was me. thanks Bunk!

Sorry, I can't remember who wanted this.

Anyway, I put this through deviantART, it should stay up.

Try to ignore the symbol.

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/167/9/3/TDK_manip_by_Bunk2.jpg

[Sun_Down]

God, you can be such an a$$. Did I not make myself clear? I'm not looking for people to agree, jusyt looking for a bit of intelligene debate thrown in amongst the wisecracks - it gets tiresome. The Green Goblin thing is old - get some new material.
And I'm done.

You're talking to a brick wall, trust me.

[itsthebatman]

http://www.ranger-retrocenter.com/14-prmf/prmf-1.jpg
Anyone who actaully thinks the new suit resemble this in any way, shape or form needs their eyes tested.

[Superman Prime]

this:

OMG BEST SUT EVAR11!!!!! NOLAN can do no wrong.

Am I cool now?

You have to add: NOLAN GETS BATMAN! NOLAN GETS IT! BALE IS BATMAN!

DAMMIT! WHOOOOO!

[bunk]

Certainly no offense to your artistic merit whatsoever, bunk, but this just goes to show you that the movie is on the right track and there are professionals working on it for a reason (design, that is).


Well, in all fairness this wouldn't be my design for a Batman movie. It's more of an experiment. This is my design (http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/165/7/8/batman_concept_by_Bunk2.jpg). :cwink:

[Jack Rabbit]

I'm not complaining because someone doesn't agree with me. Hell, I love a good argument.
Why does the sensible one have to move on while the smart-a$$ gets a free pass?

:slaps wrist::cmad:

[Alexia Dark]

I like the 'experiment' far better.

[bunk]

http://www.ranger-retrocenter.com/14-prmf/prmf-1.jpg
Anyone who actaully thinks the new suit resemble this in any way, shape or form needs their eyes tested.


I'd be pissed if the power rangers show up while I was trying to play a round of golf.

[Wolfman]

http://www.ranger-retrocenter.com/14-prmf/prmf-1.jpg
Anyone who actaully thinks the new suit resemble this in any way, shape or form needs their eyes tested.

Okay, yeah, the new suit is not like the power rangers. It's like the robocops or something... it's a man in a suit and you can see it. It's not bat-like creature of the night. In a way that Batman should be. IMO.

[itsthebatman]

I like the design. IIRC, Saint loved it. Which is never a bad thing.

[Shoemeister]

Well, in all fairness this wouldn't be my design for a Batman movie. It's more of an experiment. This is my design (http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/165/7/8/batman_concept_by_Bunk2.jpg). :cwink:

Haha, I gotcha. Well, while I personally woluldn't want to see that as the design either, I still think it's a very well done piece of art.

(In raspy voice) Ya got talent, kid!

[itsthebatman]

:slaps wrist::cmad:
I'm done. Not discussing it again, but had to get it off my chest.

[itsthebatman]

I'd be pissed if the power rangers show up while I was trying to play a round of golf.
Especially if you were heading for an under-par round.

[Nathan]

http://www.ranger-retrocenter.com/14-prmf/prmf-1.jpg
Anyone who actaully thinks the new suit resemble this in any way, shape or form needs their eyes tested.

I'm pretty sure whenever someone mentions a resemblance to the Power Ranger costumes, they are talking about the Movie costumes.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7923/themovieko0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Shoemeister]

I'm pretty sure whenever someone mentions a resemblance to the Power Ranger costumes, they are talking about the Movie costumes.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7923/themovieko0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I love this movie... LOL. It has transcended my childhood to become a guilty pleasure.

[The Kid]

YAH u WAnna Joinb My CLub!!?!?!

Yes, yes. I want to be one of the cool batfans. :word: look at ma specs, mayan!

Seriously though. Who could possibly pass up a chance to throw up a green gobby pic when someone asks for a picture of the new bat suit? :yay: :hyper: It's all in fun.

[SilentType]

Batman has always looked like a guy in a suit (except when the artist is going hyper-stylized). He is intimidating and frightening, but he never looked like a monster. I don’t understand why people think a skin tight grey suit would make criminals believe his is some sort of bat creature, while armor would make them roll their eyes and say “Hey, that dude jumping out of the shadows and beating the crap out of us is wearing armor! He is obviously no threat.”

[Justice Bringer]

I'm pretty sure whenever someone mentions a resemblance to the Power Ranger costumes, they are talking about the Movie costumes.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7923/themovieko0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Bingo

[bunk]

I love this movie... LOL. It has transcended my childhood to become a guilty pleasure.


The bird chick is so hot.:heart:

[batbat_29640]

Well, in all fairness this wouldn't be my design for a Batman movie. It's more of an experiment. This is my design (http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/165/7/8/batman_concept_by_Bunk2.jpg). :cwink:
S'good design but ya could'a just PS'ed a Dune suit with a batsymbal. Love the claws though.

[Jager X]

anyone who thinks the power ranger movie sucks are just nolan ****s. :)

[batbat_29640]

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[batbat_29640]

Haha, I gotcha. Well, while I personally woluldn't want to see that as the design either, I still think it's a very well done piece of art.

(In raspy voice) Ya got talent, kid! "Mickey??" :csad:

[Doc Holliday]

but but but it's from the comics... :wow: :ninja:

And sadly why the current batman won't be seen as being a real tough guy.

I guess I just like the old school batman who wore his tights, and trained so well that he wasn't worried about being shot since he's so far beyond any criminal with his own martial arts, he'd just do a backflip and stuff and nothing would hit him... or pick up a sewer top and use that as a shield because he's so badass... :( What this tells me is that batman's scared he'll get hurt. Like a boxer wearing one of those cushiony helmet things. Yes, the batman we know from the comics is so driven, he's not scared of dying on the job, and well that's what I'd like to see... but ah, oh well... let's hope the movie's good.

Yes, let's.

Seriously, you can never please everyone. There will always be people who love what you've done, and people who think it's retarded. More specifically here, there will always be people rooting for spandex, and there will always be people going for body armor.

I really liked the Begins suit, it was plausible and looked great, but I'm beginning to wonder if they might have taken it a little too far. True, the segmented pieces allow for better movement and so on and so forth, but I just don't know.

[super-t]

I'm pretty sure whenever someone mentions a resemblance to the Power Ranger costumes, they are talking about the Movie costumes.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7923/themovieko0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

for some reason this makes me want starburst:yay:

[Keyser Sushi]

Pacing is imo the only thing that is lacking in BB.

Pffffft.

[bunk]

S'good design but ya could'a just PS'ed a Dune suit with a batsymbal. Love the claws though.


I've never actually seen Dune.

I know, I know...

[bunk]

Batman has always looked like a guy in a suit (except when the artist is going hyper-stylized). He is intimidating and frightening, but he never looked like a monster. I don’t understand why people think a skin tight grey suit would make criminals believe his is some sort of bat creature, while armor would make them roll their eyes and say “Hey, that dude jumping out of the shadows and beating the crap out of us is wearing armor! He is obviously no threat.”


The same way nobody noticed Clark Kent is Superman.

[Batman>all]

exactly Batman in tights does not make him look like a creature.

[bunk]

Yes, let's.

Seriously, you can never please everyone. There will always be people who love what you've done, and people who think it's retarded. More specifically here, there will always be people rooting for spandex, and there will always be people going for body armor.

I really liked the Begins suit, it was plausible and looked great, but I'm beginning to wonder if they might have taken it a little too far. True, the segmented pieces allow for better movement and so on and so forth, but I just don't know.


I really think it just comes down to Batman's aerobatic skill.

If he's portrayed as being an olympic level gymnast, then he can get by with lighter armor because he's avoiding the knives, bullets ect.

Obviously Nolan isn't playing up these skills in his movies. Therefore, Batman is more stationary and needs the heavier armor to survive the knives, bullets, ect.

[TheBat812]

Pffffft.
Yea, the pacing in Begins was outstanding, as far as i'm concerned. It had a very good rhythm to every scene, and especially in transitioning from scene to scene.

[wikum]

after thinking about it, and all the batsuits before it, this is the best batsuit ever imo.

[ArmsHeldOut]

Batman has always looked like a guy in a suit (except when the artist is going hyper-stylized). He is intimidating and frightening, but he never looked like a monster. I don’t understand why people think a skin tight grey suit would make criminals believe his is some sort of bat creature, while armor would make them roll their eyes and say “Hey, that dude jumping out of the shadows and beating the crap out of us is wearing armor! He is obviously no threat.”


I agree my friend. :woot:

[Darkest Knight]

I'm starting to think the same ... Looks incredible. Can't wait to see addittional pictures.

[TheBat812]

Batman has always looked like a guy in a suit (except when the artist is going hyper-stylized). He is intimidating and frightening, but he never looked like a monster. I don’t understand why people think a skin tight grey suit would make criminals believe his is some sort of bat creature, while armor would make them roll their eyes and say “Hey, that dude jumping out of the shadows and beating the crap out of us is wearing armor! He is obviously no threat.”
how right you are. And how hilarious. I give this post two thumbs up.

[The Guard]

The original Power Rangers were so cool.

Batman has always looked like a guy in a suit (except when the artist is going hyper-stylized). He is intimidating and frightening, but he never looked like a monster. I don’t understand why people think a skin tight grey suit would make criminals believe his is some sort of bat creature, while armor would make them roll their eyes and say “Hey, that dude jumping out of the shadows and beating the crap out of us is wearing armor! He is obviously no threat.”

This is a weakness of the design teams and creators being essentially slaves to tradition. It has hurt the mythos in some ways. I long for a filmmaker to create a Batsuit that looks scary, yet looks fairly believeably practical when considered.

I thought it was a little excess.

I mean, he's trying to keep a playboy image. But, if anybody sees him with his shirt off.....he'll seem like he was a beaten to near death.

I mean, I dig the concept that his body suffers. But, there has to be a good balance or his playboy act wil mean nothing.[/quote]

That's just it, though. It's a playboy ACT. He's not a playboy. Odds are his shirt stays on, and when it comes off, as it has a few times in the comics, there is some GREAT drama. Like when Selina sees all the scars. I'd LOVE for there to be a scene where say, Alfred, sees all the "scars" Bruce has taken already. Metaphor abounds in such instances.

The more I think about this, the more I really wonder how much this suit will even be used. Most people are treating it as a replacement, but from what we've heard, it may only be used for part of the film. If that's the case, that's fine. As a "riot gear" sort of suit for an extreme circumstance, it's great. But as a replacement, it just fails, IMO.

Agreed. It's not the end of the world if it's riot gear, but as Batman's basic suit, this is just lousy.

I really liked the Begins suit, it was plausible and looked great, but I'm beginning to wonder if they might have taken it a little too far. True, the segmented pieces allow for better movement and so on and so forth, but I just don't know

The segementing allows for better movement...in theory. Will it actually, or is this just a design? Will we see people going "Batman still moves stiffly"? A lot of people here just don't seem to understand how human beings MOVE in a cumbersome costume with a cloak and restrictive vision. I mean, I keep hearing complaints about his mobility in BATMAN BEGINS and wondering where the heck that comes from.

[The Riddler]

i think the suit is nice.

it's a slight upgrade over the one in begins.

i really like the cowl design and i would've loved it a lot more if it wasn't littered with the multi-layer look.

the boots look odd, but the top half of the suit, especially the cowl, is an obvious upgrade.

an 8 overall.

[WalterKovacs]

:wow: :wow: :wow: yesterday i went to a friend of mine's house and brought my EW. SHe is a girl who only knows beyond basic superhero movie knowledge because of when i geek out and tell her news. she also had a friend of hers who lives in finland; neither like comic books or superhero movies. they, in unison with me, geeked out.

This is everything the bat suit should be and then some. he also looks like a knight, which is everything that batman should be (its also the title.) Also, im not sure if anyone pointed this out but he's at a nightclub. lets hear it for the first good superhero movie to do a nightclub scene!!:woot:

[Keyser Sushi]

Yea, the pacing in Begins was outstanding, as far as i'm concerned. It had a very good rhythm to every scene, and especially in transitioning from scene to scene.

Yeah, it was one of those no bodyfat type of films.

People who complain about the pacing in Begins really mean, "I wanted too sea teh Bamtan from the beging and more punching plz*"

:rolleyes: