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Saint
06-20-2007, 06:42 PM
You know, I think I may have figured out the purpose of the V-shaped chest plate.
If you look at the stomach of the figure, it has what appears to be a zipper down the middle. It appears that the mesh bodysuit is like a jacket that Batman has mounted all those armour plates on. So he puts on the jacket, zips it up, then straps on the V-shaped armour plate and shoulder pads. The pectoral-shaped plates under the V-plate are sewn into either side of the jacket.
Mr.Clay
06-20-2007, 06:43 PM
it probably is, but i'm just pointing out that the Batpod Batman figure is capeless, and I just want to know what happened to it.
lixdexia
06-20-2007, 06:43 PM
A thought: a haiku
An ugly batsuit
Does not alone doom a film.
You also need Joel.lol, this just made my day:woot:
Batty Belfry
06-20-2007, 06:44 PM
You know, I think I may have figured out the purpose of the V-shaped chest plate.
If you look at the stomach of the figure, it has what appears to be a zipper down the middle. It appears that the mesh bodysuit is like a jacket that Batman has mounted all those armour plates on. So he puts on the jacket, zips it up, then straps on the V-shaped armour plate and shoulder pads. The pectoral-shaped plates under the V-plate are sewn into either side of the jacket.
I thought that bit in the middle looked like a zipper as well....
scifiwolf
06-20-2007, 06:46 PM
About the cape, I suspect there are clasp-like attach points. When doing my iPod manip last night, I noticed some protrusions on the chest which strike me as clasps. Looking at the toy, I noticed the Y-shaped peice at the base of the neck. Looking at the hi-res suit pic again, I can see this is what I was thinking was a clasp. Hopefully, we'll get some new pics in the next few weeks which will help us clear this up.
Mr.Clay
06-20-2007, 06:48 PM
You know, I think I may have figured out the purpose of the V-shaped chest plate.
If you look at the stomach of the figure, it has what appears to be a zipper down the middle. It appears that the mesh bodysuit is like a jacket that Batman has mounted all those armour plates on. So he puts on the jacket, zips it up, then straps on the V-shaped armour plate and shoulder pads. The pectoral-shaped plates under the V-plate are sewn into either side of the jacket.
I definitely do believe that all that armor is removable, at least on the chest and shoulders. Maybe he removes it at some point and a more traditional look is revealed?
DorkyFresh
06-20-2007, 06:50 PM
great work on that manip, bunk! my only problem with it is that it looks a bit too Spidey-ish for my taste.
Batman>all
06-20-2007, 06:51 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/jmk888/batsuit.jpg
saw this on BOF
DarkSuperman
06-20-2007, 06:51 PM
:o
http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/004902/BatmanToy1.jpg
Batman is looking very Uncool.
sasquatchs
06-20-2007, 06:51 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/jmk888/batsuit.jpg
He has Popeye arms
DarkSuperman
06-20-2007, 06:56 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/batmannewsuit-1.jpg
In the words of Doctor Who "Fantastic!"
Batty Belfry
06-20-2007, 06:57 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/jmk888/batsuit.jpg
He has Popeye arms
He ate his damned spinach when he was a kid....:woot:
Wolfman
06-20-2007, 06:58 PM
Has anyone mentioned that Batman's buldge seems smaller in the new suit? I felt that needs to be adressed.
sasquatchs
06-20-2007, 07:00 PM
Yea, how's Catwoman going to realistically fall for something so unimpressive? On the other hand his boobs have grown
Batman>all
06-20-2007, 07:04 PM
I like the toy if the suit was all black
The Only Woj
06-20-2007, 07:08 PM
in the picture, there is no texture on the chest piece ... so thankfully the fishnet bra look isn't an issue. plus, judging from the cellphone snap of Batman, it doesn't look like it's there.
sasquatchs
06-20-2007, 07:28 PM
Off topic: is the forum playing up for anyone else?
Batty Belfry
06-20-2007, 07:34 PM
I'm having problems too.
I always get problems around 2 AM everytime. It comes up with "Database Error".
Superman79
06-20-2007, 07:44 PM
Since my first manip looked like s***. This one's slightly better.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5864/tdksuit3xp6.jpg
Bunk, you need to get this to Nolan NOW...before it's too late for re-shoots!! Nice work :up:
^That happens to me around 3:25am every night
Where do you live (don't take that the wrong way)? Maybe your timezone is different cause mine happens about an hour before that.
Superman79
06-20-2007, 07:50 PM
Not to join other members in intentional derision, but that's about as practical as Bruce dropping his pants and hiding it in his colon.
LMFAO!!!!
Frankly, that figure picture scares me...not so much enjoying the Iron-Bat look as it has been dubbed.
East coast
Yup, you're 3:00 is my 2:00.
But anyway, that database error **** pisses me off. It always happens RIGHT when I'm posting something or something interesting pops up.
Mr. Socko
06-20-2007, 07:55 PM
Mixed feelings, have I.
lujho
06-20-2007, 07:59 PM
Since my first manip looked like s***. This one's slightly better.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5864/tdksuit3xp6.jpg
Damn, nice work. I think it's obvious that the TDK wasn't designed to look good under something else, but it still illustrates the concept extremely well. I'd like the suit to be a smidgen lighter, with a few seams here and there, and a re-sculpted armour, but yeah - nice. Anyone who says that wouldn't work is just being stubborn.
Bunk - don't suppose you'd care to do a similar manip over a pic of the Begins suit?
lujho
06-20-2007, 08:06 PM
I think it should be obvious that the armour on that large toy is inaccurate. The leg-plates are smaller and thus the mesh-filled gapes between them are larger than the on the real suit.
Also, the shoulder pads look quite different, which I think is just artistic license. Overall it's a pretty crappy sculpt, and doesn't do much justice to the real suit.
Compi716
06-20-2007, 08:21 PM
I still don't like the visibility (or lack thereof) of the emblem on the suit.
The Caped Knight
06-20-2007, 08:33 PM
http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/004902/BatmanToy1.jpghttp://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/004902/BatmanToy2.jpg
Meh, toy wise the suit & Bat-pod sucks, but I'm 100% certain on film it will kick mega ass .
CConn
06-20-2007, 08:45 PM
Damn, nice work. I think it's obvious that the TDK wasn't designed to look good under something else, but it still illustrates the concept extremely well. I'd like the suit to be a smidgen lighter, with a few seams here and there, and a re-sculpted armour, but yeah - nice. Anyone who says that wouldn't work is just being stubborn.
Bunk - don't suppose you'd care to do a similar manip over a pic of the Begins suit?
Why would you want seams? Seams are like the redheaded stepchild of clothing.
Enriquespy
06-20-2007, 08:47 PM
Lenses in bat-pod-batman? can you see it?
BTW batpod toy is awesome!!!
KOLLUS
06-20-2007, 09:01 PM
Lenses in bat-pod-batman? can you see it?
BTW batpod toy is awesome!!!
i can see flash exposure.
Hobodeluxe
06-20-2007, 09:18 PM
Ok heres a little something I did with the re-colored doll. I think it shows how it would look if the bat emblem was gold. and BUNK your manip is the bomb buddy. That's really close to what I was hoping to see in this film. P.S. never mind the crappy coloring job I suck at manips.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7945/rcbatmanfig1lf5.jpg
Johnny DC
06-20-2007, 09:21 PM
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2787/tdksuit2bd7.jpg
Huh. I didn't realize that his guantlet blades (what are they called again? "bat-scallops"?) were double-pronged. They don't look like they shoot out. My brother insists that the blade shooters wasn't a joke.
Lunar_Wolf
06-20-2007, 09:30 PM
Ok heres a little something I did with the re-colored doll. I think it shows how it would look if the bat emblem was gold. and BUNK your manip is the bomb buddy. That's really close to what I was hoping to see in this film. P.S. never mind the crappy coloring job I suck at manips.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7945/rcbatmanfig1lf5.jpg
Nice. I like these colours.
Super Kal
06-20-2007, 09:35 PM
that manip looks cool... I'm gonna do one a bit later as well.
lujho
06-20-2007, 09:37 PM
Why would you want seams? Seams are like the redheaded stepchild of clothing.
They can be decorative and stop a cloth suit from looking too plain, and subtly evoke musculature without being as over the top as sharply defined sculpted muscles (like the 89 and Schumacher suits).
And I just like 'em. Makes things look real - like an actual garment as opposed to a perfect creation for a movie.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/lujho/8908_press09-001.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/lujho/8908_press02-001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/lujho/8908_press04-001.jpg
Hobodeluxe
06-20-2007, 09:40 PM
Majik what I'd like to see...and I'll ask you because you're much better at this than I, is for the pants and the lower torso to be grey (even the rubber parts)and the gloves ,boots,upper torso black with the gold bat emblem. I think it would look less busy that way.
I think that would look sweet. I'd try it but probably screw it up horribly.
CConn
06-20-2007, 09:46 PM
They can be decorative and stop a cloth suit from looking too plain, and subtly evoke musculature without being as over the top as sharply defined sculpted muscles (like the 89 and Schumacher suits).True. But couldn't a simple muscle suit do that too?
And I just like 'em. Makes things look real - like an actual garment as opposed to a perfect creation for a movie.Most actual shirts don't have 2, 3, more seams running straight through the front, though.
Saint
06-20-2007, 09:49 PM
They can be decorative and stop a cloth suit from looking too plain, and subtly evoke musculature without being as over the top as sharply defined sculpted muscles (like the 89 and Schumacher suits).
And I just like 'em. Makes things look real - like an actual garment as opposed to a perfect creation for a movie.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/lujho/8908_press09-001.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/lujho/8908_press02-001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/lujho/8908_press04-001.jpg
Man, that would be a really sweet look for Batman. I always wonder how you manage to pull all these crazy examples out of htin air.
IamtheBatman
06-20-2007, 10:15 PM
Why can't you see any blue when he's on his pod.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/jmk888/batsuit.jpg
Ugh....that's one fussy, busy mess of an action figure! Sure hope the new suit doesn't give me seizures like this thing when I see it on film! I think it'll look fine tho. (gotta love the chain-mail push up bra!)
BatmanReborn
06-20-2007, 10:25 PM
I think its an interesting suit, but I dont love it, I think personally, its just too busy, especially in the legs. I love the movie suits, so i am not one who wants a spandex suit, im armor all the way, but on this suit, i hate the chest plate coloration, and i hate the legs. My opinion, legs, black boots, black knee pads, and maybe a few tiny square patches on the thighs, almost like abs, gloves, all black, and shoulder pads, fine. abs fine, i hate that the chest has that triangle shape, and then the bat inside, its too small of a bat, and not all that noticable as a result of the shrink. it seemed they had some silver coating on that triangle spot, like the begins armor before sprayed, should have kept the chest and shoulder piece in that coloring, and the bat a bit bigger, and in black, i think it might have been cool if it was really big, and worked into the shoulder pads. I love the grey undersuit though.
like i said, just needs to be simplified
wayyyyyyyyyy to busy
Doc Holliday
06-20-2007, 10:34 PM
I agree with the consensus that it's too busy even in all black, but if I may play devil's advocate for a minute, how much of that business will be visible in the dark?
Super Kal
06-20-2007, 10:35 PM
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7984/batmantoy1modry4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Since my first manip looked like s***. This one's slightly better.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5864/tdksuit3xp6.jpg
man, this is exactly what I wanted...
EXACTLY.
TheDarkKnight
06-20-2007, 11:04 PM
I personally think the new suit looks awful. I wanted only minor changes (i.e. head movement with the cowl, spikes on his forearms), but this suit is way over-the-top for my tastes. There's too much going on, and it looks like one of those lame Batman spin-off action figures they used to make back in the day. Honestly, overall I'm not really digging the way this new movie is looking right now. The BatCycle, the way the Joker looks, etc. I hope the story is good enough to overcome these for me, and hopefully all these new looks will grow on me in time. This is all my opinion, btw, and I'm not just saying this to troll the board or flame the movie. I just wouldn't have changed so much in so little time.
TheDarkKnight
06-20-2007, 11:05 PM
man, this is exactly what I wanted...
EXACTLY.
Yeah, dude. That would be something. That's what I was looking for as well.
lixdexia
06-20-2007, 11:10 PM
doe's anyone not prefer bunk's manip to the actual suit? i love it and it seems everyone else does too. are you reading this TDK crew...
Batman>all
06-20-2007, 11:11 PM
well from BUnks suit it looks great but looks CGI work.
If they can pull it off without that CGI effect like Spiderman then sure thing I would love that on screen.
lixdexia
06-20-2007, 11:12 PM
really? may i ask why?
CConn
06-20-2007, 11:15 PM
I personally think the new suit looks awful. I wanted only minor changes (i.e. head movement with the cowl, spikes on his forearms), but this suit is way over-the-top for my tastes. There's too much going on, and it looks like one of those lame Batman spin-off action figures they used to make back in the day. Honestly, overall I'm not really digging the way this new movie is looking right now. The BatCycle, the way the Joker looks, etc. I hope the story is good enough to overcome these for me, and hopefully all these new looks will grow on me in time. This is all my opinion, btw, and I'm not just saying this to troll the board or flame the movie. I just wouldn't have changed so much in so little time.
But the Batcycle looks exactly like the Tumbler?
Or, at least, it definitely fits with the look of the Tumbler.
Bunk's is good and all, but it's boring. TDK Suit looks much more new and different.
cryptic name
06-20-2007, 11:18 PM
doe's anyone not prefer bunk's manip to the actual suit? i love it and it seems everyone else does too. are you reading this TDK crew...
the manip is great and it would have been cool to see, but i really like the TDK suit
CConn
06-20-2007, 11:19 PM
[edit]
Hahaha.
Someone finally creates a fabric suit that has armor, padding, is totally realistic, and totally believable, and you STILL find something to ***** about.
Wuh?
Are you talking about Bunk's manip or TDK suit?
Because I love TDK suit.
EDIT: Ohh, good save CConn. ;).
CConn
06-20-2007, 11:21 PM
doe's anyone not prefer bunk's manip to the actual suit? i love it and it seems everyone else does too. are you reading this TDK crew...
I love the manip, I love the TDK suit. I wouldn't say one's better than the other, just that they're both different approaches to the same character and costume. If I could get anything I wanted, I would say, TDK suit for TDK, bunk's manip for Batman 3.
TheDarkKnight
06-20-2007, 11:21 PM
But the Batcycle looks exactly like the Tumbler?
Or, at least, it definitely fits with the look of the Tumbler.
It does. But I just think it's kind of overkill for this movie. I know they wanted to introduce it because they didn't want to repeat a Tumbler chase scene, but I just think it's kind of lame. Just not my taste. I'd like a simpler, more gradual escalation of the series.
I prefer TDK suit.
so do I
Because it looks more fitting for a movie
If that wasnt a manip and I'd seen what the suit would actually look like with non-transparent material on top, my opinion might change. Also wasnt the whole point to you people who want spandex on top to have it Dark Grey? Navy Helmet\Gloves\Cloack and a black symbol?
CConn
06-20-2007, 11:23 PM
Wuh?
Are you talking about Bunk's manip or TDK suit?
Because I love TDK suit.
EDIT: Ohh, good save CConn. ;).
I didn't see uc73's post comparing the suits. I thought you were randomly bashing the manip to be an ass. Apologies.
I didn't see uc73's post comparing the suits. I thought you were randomly bashing the manip to be an ass. Apologies.
It's cool.
CConn
06-20-2007, 11:24 PM
so do I
Because it looks more fitting for a movie
If that wasnt a manip and I'd seen what the suit would actually look like with non-transparent material on top, my opinion might change. Also wasnt the whole point to you people who want spandex on top to have it Dark Grey? Navy Helmet\Gloves\Cloack and a black symbol?
Not particularly.
I just want to see any kind of different designs for the Batsuit. All black fabric, TDK armor, whatever. The only thing I'm particularly tired of is rubber...and that's just because we've seen it five times already.
Not particularly.
I just want to see any kind of different designs for the Batsuit. All black fabric, TDK armor, whatever. The only thing I'm particularly tired of is rubber...and that's just because we've seen it five times already.
True
I like the manip just not as much
I dont like the rubber on the boots area, just doesnt sit right, looks like something u can buy in a store. I would rather rubber or any material shoes as long as the chin area had some protector armor over it or something.
CConn
06-20-2007, 11:31 PM
There's rubber on the boots? They look like leather to me.
oh yeah thats what i meant
yeah actually i dont mind rubber
I hate the leather over the chins
Hobodeluxe
06-20-2007, 11:33 PM
I lightened up Bunk's manip a bit. I thought it was a little too dark.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8397/tdksuit3xp6ub0.jpg
CConn
06-20-2007, 11:38 PM
oh yeah thats what i meant
yeah actually i dont mind rubber
I hate the leather over the chins
Why? I mean...it's a boot.
CGHulk
06-20-2007, 11:39 PM
I prefer TDK suit.
So do I!
Why? I mean...it's a boot.
yeah it doesnt mean much
But I just prefer the Batman with something gaurding his shins
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2929/img0506yd6.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0506yd6.jpg)
I prefer something there
than nothing
right suit vs. left
although overall I do like the left suit better
I think for movies guantlets and shin gaurds are the way to go
Super Kal
06-20-2007, 11:46 PM
Since my first manip looked like s***. This one's slightly better.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5864/tdksuit3xp6.jpg
:up::batty:
CConn
06-21-2007, 12:05 AM
yeah it doesnt mean much
But I just prefer the Batman with something gaurding his shins
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2929/img0506yd6.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0506yd6.jpg)
I prefer something there
than nothing
right suit vs. left
although overall I do like the left suit better
I think for movies guantlets and shin gaurds are the way to go
Oh, okay. I see what you mean. I've actually never seen that done using a comic costume like that figure has. I must say, it was done well with B89's suit.
batbat_29640
06-21-2007, 12:09 AM
CCON . . Who the F**K are you to call someone a hypocrite? Take that finger in your avi and stick it up your @$$!!!
CConn
06-21-2007, 12:11 AM
I haven't called anyone a hypocrite in days. :confused:
But, seriously, what's your beef?
Honestly (embarrassingly:o) I can't quite recall exactly what I called you a hypocrite for, but my position has always been a simple one; that change and variety isn't a bad thing in adaptations of Batman, and should be welcomed as long as they're of high quality. If I misrepresented that believe, or if I misunderstood your stance on something, I'm sorry, but that's always been my main point in the whole suit argument.
Shoemeister
06-21-2007, 01:27 AM
As I've stated before, I am not knocking bunk's art. He did a fine job.
But I just do NOT understand all the love for the design. The TDK suit is a thousand times better. It's going to look amazing in the film. Plain and simple.
Bandyt
06-21-2007, 01:30 AM
At least we know it's grey under 'teh techy' now, thanks to the toys?
Saint
06-21-2007, 01:34 AM
Not really: there were grey Begins action figures, too. The colour of this one isn't indicative of the real deal.
deathfromabove
06-21-2007, 01:36 AM
Not really: there were grey Begins action figures, too. The colour of this one isn't indicative of the real deal.
exactly. we have a hi res image of the actual suit.
why do people insist that that toy is even remotely accurate when its clearly not?
Shoemeister
06-21-2007, 01:40 AM
exactly. we have a hi res image of the actual suit.
why do people insist that that toy is even remotely accurate when its clearly not?
Because they're damned stubborn fools.
I mean...
...yeah. They're just damned stubborn fools, really.
TheBat812
06-21-2007, 01:50 AM
As I've stated before, I am not knocking bunk's art. He did a fine job.
But I just do NOT understand all the love for the design. The TDK suit is a thousand times better. It's going to look amazing in the film. Plain and simple.
I completely agree, that design looks quite terrible, and the real design is much more effective. With good lighting and mood, the suit looks quite demonic in fact (my own manip):
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6541/tdkteaserpostercopyll3.jpg
Shoemeister
06-21-2007, 01:52 AM
I completely agree, that design looks quite terrible, and the real design is much more effective. With good lighting and mood, the suit looks quite demonic in fact (my own manip):
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6541/tdkteaserpostercopyll3.jpg
Woooooo baby... there you go.
Bandyt
06-21-2007, 01:53 AM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x25/br3ndanau/tehgroin.jpg
teh groin
The Mighty Wind
06-21-2007, 01:53 AM
I completely agree, that design looks quite terrible, and the real design is much more effective. With good lighting and mood, the suit looks quite demonic in fact (my own manip):
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6541/tdkteaserpostercopyll3.jpg
That kicks a heavy amount of ass.
Bandyt
06-21-2007, 01:54 AM
I completely agree, that design looks quite terrible, and the real design is much more effective. With good lighting and mood, the suit looks quite demonic in fact (my own manip):
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6541/tdkteaserpostercopyll3.jpg
that is...*humps*
darthlaney
06-21-2007, 02:02 AM
Nice Bat-Brahttp://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/004902/BatmanToy1.jpg
The Kid
06-21-2007, 02:03 AM
I completely agree, that design looks quite terrible, and the real design is much more effective. With good lighting and mood, the suit looks quite demonic in fact (my own manip):
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6541/tdkteaserpostercopyll3.jpg
the general idea here is that "the less you see of it, the better it looks"
hmmm yeah.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4515/batmantoy1rv4.jpg
I love the batsuit but it reminds on Tron never the less
and the toy is crap, maybe it's the lighting ...
Bandyt
06-21-2007, 02:21 AM
I like your DP, any batman/robin action is hawt. Know any good websites? lol.
cryptic name
06-21-2007, 02:21 AM
the general idea here is that "the less you see of it, the better it looks"
hmmm yeah.
actually the idea is the less you see of it, the more creature-ish it is. which can be said of every single movie suit and damn near every comic suit and every proposed manip-suit. they all look like a dude in a suit in the light, the TDK design just happens to look like a guy in a badass suit that means business.
Crook
06-21-2007, 02:23 AM
I completely agree, that design looks quite terrible, and the real design is much more effective. With good lighting and mood, the suit looks quite demonic in fact (my own manip):
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6541/tdkteaserpostercopyll3.jpg
Hi-res wallpaper. Now. :o
Octoberist
06-21-2007, 03:06 AM
I completely agree, that design looks quite terrible, and the real design is much more effective. With good lighting and mood, the suit looks quite demonic in fact (my own manip):
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6541/tdkteaserpostercopyll3.jpg
well made!
TheBat812
06-21-2007, 03:09 AM
Hi-res wallpaper. Now. :o
ah, for that I would need hi-res BB posters for background and reference for bats... (somebody, please?!)
Crook
06-21-2007, 03:11 AM
Where's that purple dinosaur when you need him? :mad: :o
Steelsheen
06-21-2007, 04:40 AM
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5864/tdksuit3xp6.jpg
told you this will be a big hit Bunk ;)
i think this should be the next progression in the next film.
my thoughts exactly.
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7984/batmantoy1modry4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
nice recoloring job Kak.
Thespiralgoeson
06-21-2007, 05:49 AM
Do you mean like this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/rcbatmanfignew.jpg
Wow, I love this design! Not perfect, but very close to what I was hoping for for the TDK suit. I wish they would've gone with something more like this. My single biggest complaint about the Begins suit was that there was no contrast between the emblem and the suit itself. The emblem needs to be clearly visible, otherwise it serves no purpose. This is why I was an advocate of the grey suit, with the cape, cowl, boots, gloves, and emblem, or the all-black suit with a gold emblem. It looks like the costume designers didn't feel the same way, and stuck with the "camouflage" emblem. Too bad, because judging by this manip, the gold emblem would've looked great on screen.
Kaizer
06-21-2007, 05:58 AM
Wow, I love this design! Not perfect, but very close to what I was hoping for for the TDK suit. I wish they would've gone with something more like this. My single biggest complaint about the Begins suit was that there was no contrast between the emblem and the suit itself. The emblem needs to be clearly visible, otherwise it serves no purpose. This is why I was an advocate of the grey suit, with the cape, cowl, boots, gloves, and emblem, or the all-black suit with a gold emblem. It looks like the costume designers didn't feel the same way, and stuck with the "camouflage" emblem. Too bad, because judging by this manip, the gold emblem would've looked great on screen.
Ugh. A gold emblem just sucks major something. As if the yellow oval wasnīt enough. Gives me an elseworlds, action-figure, schumacher vibe.
The Count
06-21-2007, 06:18 AM
During a stint in the JLA comics, he wore a gold emblem and it looked okay, plus it adds to the whole "better to take a shot in a target on an armoured chest than one in the head" from TDKR
Kaizer
06-21-2007, 06:36 AM
During a stint in the JLA comics, he wore a gold emblem and it looked okay, plus it adds to the whole "better to take a shot in a target on an armoured chest than one in the head" from TDKR
If they were going in that direction, it would be a whole lot better to go with the oval. At least stick to the comics.
but theres no coming around it, the one from JLA youīre (probably) referring to has a lot in common with the new suit.
http://billscustoms.com/images/anim_jlbatman.jpg
Edit: sorry, I didnīt read your post thoroughly, thought you were referring to the animated series.
The Count
06-21-2007, 06:52 AM
Sorry I should have been more detailed, It's from the JLA story arc Rock of Ages from 97
The Count
06-21-2007, 07:05 AM
http://a434.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/80/m_267fb70227c121ad1369162b659878a1.jpg
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 07:27 AM
Did ya guys read this report on BOF (sorry if it has been posted before)?
http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDK_Chicago2_set-report_6-20-07.html
* “Graham Riddell -- the man who can be seen on the special features of the BEGINS DVD in the section about the Batman costume -- he’s the co-creator of the original bat-suit, and the man who apparently played [a big] role in the new costume gave us tidbits. The suit is WAY more flexible. Buster Reeves (who we also talked to) re-iterated this point that the suit was much more flexible, and that he could FULLY turn his head this time. It’s compromised of black and grey parts, the chest symbol is the movie’s official logo and it is black, NOT GOLD. He also gave us the exclusive scoop that The Joker WILL WEAR PURPLE SUIT in the film. This guy was by far one of the nicest and most pleasant people to meet.”
Yeah, "robotic", my ass...
Lunar_Wolf
06-21-2007, 07:42 AM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x25/br3ndanau/tehgroin.jpg
teh groin
The Bat needs protection:cwink:
dark_b
06-21-2007, 07:42 AM
Did ya guys read this report on BOF (sorry if it has been posted before)?
http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDK_Chicago2_set-report_6-20-07.html
* Graham Riddell -- the man who can be seen on the special features of the BEGINS DVD in the section about the Batman costume -- hes the co-creator of the original bat-suit, and the man who apparently played [a big] role in the new costume gave us tidbits. The suit is WAY more flexible. Buster Reeves (who we also talked to) re-iterated this point that the suit was much more flexible, and that he could FULLY turn his head this time. Its compromised of black and grey parts, the chest symbol is the movies official logo and it is black, NOT GOLD. He also gave us the exclusive scoop that The Joker WILL WEAR PURPLE SUIT in the film. This guy was by far one of the nicest and most pleasant people to meet.
Yeah, "robotic", my ass...i dont understand it?
why robotic my ass?
if you would ask in 2004 they would tell you that he can turn hes head.
Ring Deacon
06-21-2007, 07:50 AM
Since my first manip looked like s***. This one's slightly better.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5864/tdksuit3xp6.jpg
Here is proof that a cloth black and grey suit would have worked and not come off campy. Great job.
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 07:51 AM
i dont understand it?
why robotic my ass?
if you would ask in 2004 they would tell you that he can turn hes head.
In 2004 the cowl wasnīt a separate piece and the suit wasnīt segmented. Because itīs not robotic, Batman will be an agile creature of the night, just like in Begins, people freak out about this alleged "hit-tech" aspect way more than youīll realize in the movie.
dark_b
06-21-2007, 07:52 AM
Here is proof that a cloth black and grey suit would have worked and not come off campy. Great job.this is not proof. this is a manip.
i can with photoshop make batman have 4 arms. doesnt mean it will work.
dark_b
06-21-2007, 07:53 AM
In 2004 the cowl wasnīt a separate piece. Because itīs not robotic, Batman will be an agile creature of the night, just like in Begins, people freak out about this alleged "hit-tech" aspect way more than youīll realize in the movie.ultimate i agree with oyu in everyhthing almost 100%.
but i dont think we need some guy to tell us that he is not robotic.
if you noticed only the ones who spam and troll were saying thta he is robotic.
there is nothing on this suit that looks like robocop. like the GG he doesnt look like a power ranger. but some guy made a joke in 2002 and now everyone is saying it.
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 07:54 AM
Here is proof that a cloth black and grey suit would have worked and not come off campy. Great job.
If it needs the actual suit to make the pic, it doesnīt prove anything. Itīs just a different design, the armor still is there. The volume still is there, the chest still feels like it has a design. Plain cloth wonīt make it look like that. Itīs a potato/tomato argument.
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 07:58 AM
ultimate i agree with oyu in everyhthing almost 100%.
but i dont think we need some guy to tell us that he is not robotic.
if you noticed only the ones who spam and troll were saying thta he is robotic.
there is nothing on this suit that looks like robocop. like the GG he doesnt look like a power ranger. but some guy made a joke in 2002 and now everyone is saying it.
Yeah, but even some of the not trolling people complain that the suit looks too hi-tech, etc. I think this information helps to show how much the work on the suit has improved from the last time. This can be the most agile Batman seen on screen. The one aspect where I agree that the rubber suits present a bit of a problem is their movement/restraining, even though thereīs been a lot of progress in it since the first time.
dark_b
06-21-2007, 07:58 AM
Yeah, but even some of the not trolling people complain that the suit is too hi-tech, etc. I think this information helps to show how much the work on the suit has improved from the last time. This can be the most agile Batman seen on screen.this is the most agile batman......fact :o
:woot:
Ring Deacon
06-21-2007, 08:00 AM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/batmannewsuit-1.jpg
Another case in point. Not only do the colors and material work, but so do the lenses. keep these coming and maybe just maybe by BB3 the suit will evolve into this.
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 08:01 AM
Another case in point. Not only do the colors and material work, but so do the lenses. keep these coming and maybe just maybe by BB3 the suit will evolve into this.
Itīs still an armor, you can see it, I donīt see why just the design aesthetics - which I like on the new suit, BTW - is such a big deal. The old suits had a more "body" look to it and people still complained.
dark_b
06-21-2007, 08:02 AM
Another case in point. Not only do the colors and material work, but so do the lenses. keep these coming and maybe just maybe by BB3 the suit will evolve into this.on hte right is a manip.
thats why it is grey. on the set it would be the same colour like the left pic.
Ring Deacon
06-21-2007, 08:05 AM
If it needs the actual suit to make the pic, it doesnīt prove anything. Itīs just a different design, the armor still is there. The volume still is there, the chest still feels like it has a design. Plain cloth wonīt make it look like that. Itīs a potato/tomato argument.
But that is the point of my proof. I have been saying the whole time to have the armor under the suit. And this manip a long with the other one show that it would come off good. Doing a manip is one of the best ways to show what something will come off like. It is just like having Bale try on various costumes to see which one is better or some costume designer drawing them. But this way you get to see it is near real world or the world of the movie light. In fact many designers use photshop so not to have to call the actor in all the time. they just use a body shot and head shot to see how things will turn out.
dark_b
06-21-2007, 08:08 AM
why didnt knights have some fabric above their armour?
it would look better. :oldrazz:
Ring Deacon
06-21-2007, 08:09 AM
on hte right is a manip.
thats why it is grey. on the set it would be the same colour like the left pic.
duh.. read my other resonse. I am saying that the colors woud work. the manip shows it. Costume designers use photoshop all the time these days.
I really think that the suit will evole into the clasic suit by the next movie. A suit with the chainmail / cloth blend over aromor. And it will be badass.
dark_b
06-21-2007, 08:17 AM
duh.. read my other resonse. I am saying that the colors woud work. the manip shows it. Costume designers use photoshop all the time these days.
I really think that the suit will evole into the clasic suit by the next movie. A suit with the chainmail / cloth blend over aromor. And it will be badass.but TDK color is also grey.
what colours are you talking about? people have only problesm with the designe not hte colours.
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 08:22 AM
but TDK color is also grey.
what colours are you talking about? people have only problesm with the designe not hte colours.
Yeah, the only one I know who obsesses with the shade of gray on the suit is Lujho. Plus the movie suits tend to look different shades - darker or lighter gray or black - according to the scene lighting.
DorkyFresh
06-21-2007, 08:36 AM
i love bunk's manip...it looks just like Batman, but the problem is that it borrows TOO MUCH from Spider-Man. the fabric part looks too similar to Spider-Man's airbrushed spandex.
Sorry I should have been more detailed, It's from the JLA story arc Rock of Ages from 97
I always kinda liked that suit. Darkseid looked cool in those issues too.
ROBOCOP CPU001
06-21-2007, 08:55 AM
i love bunk's manip...it looks just like Batman, but the problem is that it borrows TOO MUCH from Spider-Man. the fabric part looks too similar to Spider-Man's airbrushed spandex.
I'm with you on that one, it really is quite awesome!!!
although it borrows from Spidey, who cares it appears to work so much better.
Steelsheen
06-21-2007, 09:17 AM
i love bunk's manip...it looks just like Batman, but the problem is that it borrows TOO MUCH from Spider-Man. the fabric part looks too similar to Spider-Man's airbrushed spandex.
it just proves that the Spidey technique is the best.
I think someone suggested a manip for the begins suit. Not sure which pic to manip.
Nepenthes
06-21-2007, 09:29 AM
it just proves that the Spidey technique is the best.
^ the best for Spidey, not for Batman
nocomics
06-21-2007, 09:49 AM
Ya never gonna make everyone happy no matter what ya do. If they make the suit like the tv show version,some would like it some would hate it.
I think this version is more of a change than any previous versions overall,and I'm sure some purist hate it,while there are those who like it.
I personally dont mind the new suit or the colors,think they are evolving his look each movie,which is a good thing. Not sure what the thinking or reasoning for the change is. I hope they overall stay true to his previous films,but yet making this batman 'theirs'..
I hate to bring up superman(though batmans suit was brought up in theirs),but its just overkill with complaints about his suit. They didn't really change it much except for a few things,and ppl just threw a hissie.
I think its strange how one set of fans can accept change and one cannot..I like both superman/batman equally for different reasons,and I like the subtle changes to each character. The directors/designers have got to make these toons theirs,while trying to stay somewhat true to comics,not an easy line to balance.
This is bales batman now,not keatons,not clooney's,not kilmers,its bales. Just like superman,its roths now,not reeves(both),its roths let them define their characters,let these directors define these comic icons for better or worse.../speel off
iwalktheline92
06-21-2007, 09:54 AM
For the record, this here would be my dream Batsuit.
Yes, its dark blue. Imagine if they did EVERYTHING exactly the same in Begins, except the suit was this. Would it really have taken you out of the movie too much?
People say it would never work on screen. That a bat is not blue, etc.
But is a spider red? No, and Spidey worked. You may say his movies are camp, thats why. Well, by this logic, why did everyone universally applaude Iron Mans costume? Red and yellow? Please! In a "real world" situation, they probaly should have made him gun metal grey. But they didnt. And its great.
Going blue is the last word on finally getting a bat film right, visually.
And I'm 100% behind what Nolans doing and think it's great.
But why all this denial that batman is blue? If they made that kind of change with any other hero there would be blood in the streets.
Maybe its because when I was 12 and the biggest Bat fan ever and B89 came out I hated it and it didnt make an impression on me. I'm still untainted.
Or something.
All I'm saying is, blue could work. All you have to do is keep everything the same...just make him dark blue and grey.
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/2282/blueka7.jpg
the only thing is with the blue it doesnt look right without the yellow oval:batty:
Ya never gonna make everyone happy no matter what ya do. If they make the suit like the tv show version,some would like it some would hate it.
I think this version is more of a change than any previous versions overall,and I'm sure some purist hate it,while there are those who like it.
I personally dont mind the new suit or the colors,think they are evolving his look each movie,which is a good thing. Not sure what the thinking or reasoning for the change is. I hope they overall stay true to his previous films,but yet making this batman 'theirs'..
I hate to bring up superman(though batmans suit was brought up in theirs),but its just overkill with complaints about his suit. They didn't really change it much except for a few things,and ppl just threw a hissie.
I think its strange how one set of fans can accept change and one cannot..I like both superman/batman equally for different reasons,and I like the subtle changes to each character. The directors/designers have got to make these toons theirs,while trying to stay somewhat true to comics,not an easy line to balance.
This is bales batman now,not keatons,not clooney's,not kilmers,its bales. Just like superman,its roths now,not reeves(both),its roths let them define their characters,let these directors define these comic icons for better or worse.../speel off
Yeah, it's definitely a no win situation for someone like Nolan. Everybody has a different image in their head. He seems to be doing something right judging by polls and what not.
Steelsheen
06-21-2007, 09:58 AM
^ the best for Spidey, not for Batman
what do you think would work best for Batman then? because Bunk's manip there just showed the best combination of comic book version and the real-life armored version.
the only thing is with the blue it doesnt look right without the yellow oval:batty:
not always. that looks very similar to how Batman is drawn in current comics.
JStorm
06-21-2007, 10:14 AM
Who's bowel movement did that toy come from?!
JTIZZLEVILLE
06-21-2007, 10:34 AM
I know that it was used in the comics, but why the heck would Batman wear (or anyone like) a blue and gray suit?
Maybe a black and dark gray suit, but to heck with blue.
I really glad they fixed the cowl.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8425/beginssuitmanipce7.jpg
JTIZZLEVILLE
06-21-2007, 10:39 AM
I really glad they fixed the cowl.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8425/beginssuitmanipce7.jpg
Now THAT.....is what we should have gotten.
Great job!
Hobodeluxe
06-21-2007, 10:43 AM
Do you mean like this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/rcbatmanfignew.jpg
excellent job. yeah that's what I'm talking about!
dark_b
06-21-2007, 10:43 AM
I really glad they fixed the cowl.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8425/beginssuitmanipce7.jpgyou thought you made the cowl darker but what you did was that you only change the level of reflective colour.
.
Hobodeluxe
06-21-2007, 10:44 AM
Bunk you are the man! If that had the new cowl on it it would be perfect!!!
The Kid
06-21-2007, 10:46 AM
now the symbol isn't completely pointless. welldone
you thought you made the cowl darker but what you did was that you only change the level of reflective colour.
.
Huh?
sasquatchs
06-21-2007, 10:48 AM
Now that you can see it in a well lit room it has point? Its purely aesthetics, does look nicer though
Steelsheen
06-21-2007, 11:04 AM
another great job here Bunk :up:
I really glad they fixed the cowl.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8425/beginssuitmanipce7.jpg
Thanks guys. If I had an even higher res tdk suit pic I could do the texture more effectively.
Super Kal
06-21-2007, 11:13 AM
awesome manip :up:
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 11:16 AM
Yeah, it's definitely a no win situation for someone like Nolan. Everybody has a different image in their head. He seems to be doing something right judging by polls and what not.
Yeah, thatīs the thing, every fan has their Batman in their head and their own Batman movie in their head. Too bad people sometimes get so rigid about it you just canīt win them over.
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 11:18 AM
it just proves that the Spidey technique is the best.
For a superhero thatīs meant to look as if heīs just wearing spandex and doesnīt need protection cuz he has superpowers - and he couldnīt afford it anyway -, yes. BTW, the "Spidey technique" was inspired by the Batman movies, use a muscle rubber suit to create the illusion of a suit with perfect muscle definiton, like a comic book.
El Payaso
06-21-2007, 11:23 AM
I really glad they fixed the cowl.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8425/beginssuitmanipce7.jpg
You convinced me pal. :up:
Perfection.
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 11:25 AM
what do you think would work best for Batman then? because Bunk's manip there just showed the best combination of comic book version and the real-life armored version.
not always. that looks very similar to how Batman is drawn in current comics.
Itīs a photoshop manip, itīs not how the suit would necessarily look in live-action. The old Batman suits had a more "body-like" design on the chest and fanboys still bitsched and moaned like hell about the "Robocop" thing.
And burn me in hell all you like, aesthetically speaking, I think the movie suit is much better-looking than this.
DorkyFresh
06-21-2007, 11:29 AM
although it borrows from Spidey, who cares it appears to work so much better.
i care. it's nice to see each superhero have their own visual ques as opposed to borrowing from someone else's. i don't want to see Batman and think "they borrowed that look from Spider-Man."
it just proves that the Spidey technique is the best.
like i said above...bunk's manip has a great look, but it's not original enough imo.
itsthebatman
06-21-2007, 11:29 AM
Itīs a photoshop manip, itīs not how the suit would necessarily look in live-action. The old Batman suits had a more "body-like" design on the chest and fanboys still bitsched and moaned like hell about the "Robocop" thing.
And burn me in hell all you like, aesthetically speaking, I think the movie suit is much better-looking than this.
Good God, don't be so defensive. And my (current) pet peeve is the use of fanboy as an insult. You're a fan, aren't you? And a boy? Then you're a fanboy.
We also don't know how the TDK suit will look in live action. We know what it looks like standing still, but not yet in motion. Could look stupid for all we know. And Bunks could look great. It looks pretty good there, for one.
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 11:31 AM
Now THAT.....is what we should have gotten.
Great job!
I donīt even see whatīs so damn different, most of the chest is so dark we donīt see it.
Nepenthes
06-21-2007, 11:33 AM
what do you think would work best for Batman then? because Bunk's manip there just showed the best combination of comic book version and the real-life armored version.
best combination in your opinion. I wouldn't prefer it because it's been done before in Spiderman and FF - it wouldn't be very unique, and b) I just don't see batman wearing something like that. It should be sleek and alien looking (like the natural skin of a demon e.g. the BB or Burton costumes) or more fierce and military like the Bermejo designs or the new suit. Bunks manip is good but there are just so many other alternatives to consider and I wouldn't like Batman to resemble other superheroes on film.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g74/ngorsh01/Banewraith.jpg
something like this would've been the best costume for me. without the lenses. advanced armour with a slightly supernatural appearance.
dark_b
06-21-2007, 11:33 AM
I donīt even see whatīs so damn different, most of the chest is so dark we donīt see it.its a basic batman-fan manip. the symbol and cowl are darker than the body suit. plus a texture.
Mike_D202
06-21-2007, 11:34 AM
I just dont understand how some of the new batsuit hating people can say:
"He doesnt look scary enough! Part of Batman being Batman is because hes supposed to be a creature of the night! Not look like hes from the military!"
"His reputation is the thing that strikes fear into criminals, not what he wears" (in defense of the brief's showing).
Well...wouldnt that same logic apply to the new suit?
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 11:34 AM
Good God, don't be so defensive. And my (current) pet peeve is the use of fanboy as an insult. You're a fan, aren't you? And a boy? Then you're a fanboy.
We also don't know how the TDK suit will look in live action. We know what it looks like standing still, but not yet in motion. Could look stupid for all we know. And Bunks could look great. It looks pretty good there, for one.
Iīm a fanboy and proud of it, but I will fight certain attitudes that are typically fanboyish - "if itīs not exactly like the comics, it necessarily sucks and nobody should ever try anything different" - till the day I die.
This team knows how to do a suit look its best on screen, they knew how to use the BB suit and they will definitely know how to use an improved one.
its a basic batman-fan manip. the symbol and cowl are darker than the body suit. plus a texture.
So it darker now? I thought it was just less reflective.
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 11:36 AM
I just dont understand how some of the new batsuit hating people can say:
"He doesnt look scary enough! Part of Batman being Batman is because hes supposed to be a creature of the night! Not look like hes from the military!"
"His reputation is the thing that strikes fear into criminals, not what he wears" (in defense of the brief's showing).
Well...wouldnt that same logic apply to the new suit?
Yeah, and I have no idea how those suits in manips make him look any more "monstrous" or "scary" than the movie one.
Steelsheen
06-21-2007, 11:39 AM
like i said above...bunk's manip has a great look, but it's not original enough imo.
hey i'm all for originality, but i would really want an achievable costume that looks as close to the comic book version but can convincingly pass as a real life armored suit.
think best of both worlds. think Batman.
itsthebatman
06-21-2007, 11:42 AM
Iīm a fanboy and proud of it, but I will fight certain attitudes that are typically fanboyish - "if itīs not exactly like the comics, it necessarily sucks and nobody should ever try anything different" - till the day I die.
This team knows how to do a suit look its best on screen, they knew how to use the BB suit and they will definitely know how to use an improved one.
All well and good , but a lot of people here are just praising Bunk's manips, not bashing the TDK suit. But you keep saying 'Wouldn't work on screen','don't see any difference','spandex', straight away putting the boot in. Just let them enjoy the pics without giving out, can't you?
I too have faith the TDK suit will look great, and work well.
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 11:43 AM
All well and good , but a lot of people here are just praising Bunk's manips, not bashing the TDK suit. But you keep saying 'Wouldn't work on screen','don't see any difference','spandex', straight away putting the boot in. Just let them enjoy the pics without giving out, can't you?
I too have faith the TDK suit will look great, and work well.
Some people are, "THIS is what we should get", "THIS is the right way", etc. Iīm referring to them, not you.
Yeah, the manip is nice.
Steelsheen
06-21-2007, 11:45 AM
best combination in your opinion. I wouldn't prefer it because it's been done before in Spiderman and FF - it wouldn't be very unique, and b) I just don't see batman wearing something like that. It should be sleek and alien looking (like the natural skin of a demon e.g. the BB or Burton costumes) or more fierce and military like the Bermejo designs or the new suit. Bunks manip is good but there are just so many other alternatives to consider and I wouldn't like Batman to resemble other superheroes on film.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g74/ngorsh01/Banewraith.jpg
something like this would've been the best costume for me. without the lenses. advanced armour with a slightly supernatural appearance.
interesting. what material do you think it would be made of? pretend that they're gonna make that for a movie, what do you think they could use? its looks pretty distressed, leather comes to mind, its the material i know that can look like that. although i've heard my fair share of complaints about leather costumes.
Good God, don't be so defensive. And my (current) pet peeve is the use of fanboy as an insult.
yeah i dont get this :huh:
itsthebatman
06-21-2007, 11:46 AM
Some people are, "THIS is what we should get", "THIS is the right tecnique", etc. Iīm referring to them, not you.
Yeah, the manip is nice.
I know it wasn't me. But I'm the ultimate democrat. Everyone here has the right to say what they want as long as it's not gratuitously offensive to others, without being attacked for doing so.
They are nice.
Over and out.
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 11:47 AM
Oh and the painted one is nice too.
dark_b
06-21-2007, 11:47 AM
So it darker now? I thought it was just less reflective.
ok you got me here. :cwink: no doubt about that.
i used more simple words. :o ok?
because if i would use the right words people wouldnt know what i am talking about.
itsthebatman
06-21-2007, 11:48 AM
interesting. what material do you think it would be made of? pretend that they're gonna make that for a movie, what do you think they could use? its looks pretty distressed, leather comes to mind, its the material i know that can look like that. although i've heard my fair share of complaints about leather costumes.
yeah i dont get this :huh:
You know, 'Fanboys love everything Nolan does, the idiots' or 'fanboys want a stupid-looking spandex suit'. Nobody ever uses fanboy as a compliment, it's used to describe those on the other side of whichever argument you're currently on.
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 11:48 AM
I know it wasn't me. But I'm the ultimate democrat. Everyone here has the right to say what they want as long as it's not gratuitously offensive to others, without being attacked for doing so.
They are nice.
Over and out.
And what did I say that was so offensive? I was offering a counterpoint. I was speaking of general attitudes, not so much a person in particular.
ok you got me here. :cwink: no doubt about that.
i used more simple words. :o ok?
because if i would use the right words people wouldnt know what i am talking about.
That would make them the wrong words.
sasquatchs
06-21-2007, 11:49 AM
I think you're both arguing the same position so no need to debate it :woot:
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 11:50 AM
You know, 'Fanboys love everything Nolan does, the idiots' or 'fanboys want a stupid-looking spandex suit'. Nobody ever uses fanboy as a compliment, it's used to describe those on the other side of whichever argument you're currently on.
Okay, SOME fanboys.
Steelsheen
06-21-2007, 11:55 AM
You know, 'Fanboys love everything Nolan does, the idiots' or 'fanboys want a stupid-looking spandex suit'. Nobody ever uses fanboy as a compliment, it's used to describe those on the other side of whichever argument you're currently on.
well i was more thinking Fanboy= that would be us and Sheep= the general movie goer. :o
itsthebatman
06-21-2007, 11:58 AM
well i was more thinking Fanboy= that would be us and Sheep= the general movie goer. :o
Heh.
itsthebatman
06-21-2007, 11:59 AM
I think you're both arguing the same position so no need to debate it :woot:
Stay out of it, fanboy!
*shakes fist*
... Oh, crap. I just fatally undermined my position, didn't I? Oh, well, I guess it's suicide for old itsthebatman again.
Hobodeluxe
06-21-2007, 12:45 PM
I wanted the suit to look more like the comic. so sue me. I thought Bunk did a great manip that showed how armor could still be used and still maintain that classic look. I also thought it would allow for the suit to be more flexible and allow the Batman to do more acrobatic moves without having to rely so heavily on camera tricks.
I'm so tired of the rubber suits. I didn't like them in 89 and I still don't like them. They look heavy,hot and cumbersome.
My ideal Batman is not a walking tank. He is one that can move to avoid being shot 99% of the time and still has some protection under the fabric in case he doesn't avoid the shot. He relies on his training,reflexes,intuition and his natural ability more than technology. More Bruce Lee than Robocop.
I wasn't trying to crap on Nolan or the new suit. Just expressing my vision.
MagicPrime
06-21-2007, 12:50 PM
I really glad they fixed the cowl.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8425/beginssuitmanipce7.jpg
Wow, that would have defiantly been a step backwards in batsuit design.
Infinity9999x
06-21-2007, 12:53 PM
Wow, that would have defiantly been a step backwards in batsuit design.
How?
Matthew Allison
06-21-2007, 01:12 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/batmannewsui2.jpg
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 01:13 PM
I wanted the suit to look more like the comic. so sue me. I thought Bunk did a great manip that showed how armor could still be used and still maintain that classic look. I also thought it would allow for the suit to be more flexible and allow the Batman to do more acrobatic moves without having to rely so heavily on camera tricks.
I'm so tired of the rubber suits. I didn't like them in 89 and I still don't like them. They look heavy,hot and cumbersome.
My ideal Batman is not a walking tank. He is one that can move to avoid being shot 99% of the time and still has some protection under the fabric in case he doesn't avoid the shot. He relies on his training,reflexes,intuition and his natural ability more than technology. More Bruce Lee than Robocop.
I wasn't trying to crap on Nolan or the new suit. Just expressing my vision.
Word on this one is itīs lighter, more fabricky and segmented, so it shouldnīt be as hot or heavy or cumbersome as the other ones. And any armor will be heavier, hotter and at least a little more cumbersome than plain cloth tights.
Super Kal
06-21-2007, 01:15 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/batmannewsui2.jpg
oh wow... I REALLY like that. :up:
Wow, that would have defiantly been a step backwards in batsuit design.
well not to me it wouldn't!!:woot:
The Caped Knight
06-21-2007, 01:26 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/batmannewsui2.jpg
Damn that looks like Bats straight out of the comics . :wow: AMAZING Job Mat . :cwink:
CrashNburn
06-21-2007, 01:28 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/batmannewsui2.jpg
WOW!!!! That's genius.Great Work!
Super Kal
06-21-2007, 01:31 PM
did you ever make a full body manip of that?
I would LOVE to see it
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/batmannewsui2.jpg
That's a badass manip. I'm not so sure if the blue would work on screen though.
dark_b
06-21-2007, 01:32 PM
That's a badass manip. I'm not so sure if the blue would work on screen though.of course it would. this is from the comics.
:dry:
spiderman has bright colours why can batman not have them?
sarcasm out.........peace :ninja:
Super Kal
06-21-2007, 01:32 PM
has it been done yet... other than the Adam West series?
dark_b
06-21-2007, 01:34 PM
has it been done yet... other than the Adam West series?no
noone is dumb enough to have the dark knight have in blue colours IMO
MagicPrime
06-21-2007, 01:35 PM
Well since people are still on the "exactly like the comics" kick. I say they throw out the old tumbler and have batman find this in a junkyard!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Batmobile-1950.jpg
Shoemeister
06-21-2007, 01:42 PM
Wow, that would have defiantly been a step backwards in batsuit design.
I agree completely. All the rallying going on for this look right now is just mind-boggling to me. Why?!?!
kenellard
06-21-2007, 01:45 PM
Well since people are still on the "exactly like the comics" kick. I say they throw out the old tumbler and have batman find this in a junkyard!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Batmobile-1950.jpg
original :up:
Well since people are still on the "exactly like the comics" kick. I say they throw out the old tumbler and have batman find this in a junkyard!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Batmobile-1950.jpg
Nothin like putting a giant head on the front of your car. Genius.
Matthew Allison
06-21-2007, 01:49 PM
That's a badass manip. I'm not so sure if the blue would work on screen though.
You could do a dark, dark blue so that most times it looks black with just a slight hint of color in certain light.
dark_b
06-21-2007, 01:51 PM
You could do a dark, dark blue so that most times it looks black with just a slight hint of color in certain light.why make it dark blue if it looks like black in hte movie? just because it is blue ine the comics right? :dry:
You could do a dark, dark blue so that most times it looks black with just a slight hint of color in certain light.
They have a hard enough time getting the rubber a dark enough black. I think they'd hurt themselves trying to do blue. Also, subtlety doesn't seem to be one of their strong suits.
Kleric
06-21-2007, 01:52 PM
Nice manip,
Sorry tho that blue reminds me too much of this:
http://www.fanzing.com/images/imgs03/brobin.jpg
must..scrub...eyes..with..soap...
ultimatefan
06-21-2007, 01:52 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/batmannewsui2.jpg
Nice work.
Nice manip,
Sorry tho that blue reminds me too much of this:
http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/flugelheim_museum/pics/batman_robin/pics_big/batman&robin_pics012.jpg
must..scrub...eyes..with..soap...
You can probably just tell us what it is. I'm sure we've all seen it.
Anybody have an idea of what batman was doing without a cowl?
"Also... not being filmed was a stunt double jumping from the rooftop into the level below. He had on a Batman outfit... but no cowl."
-I pray it’s not the retractable thing
Also doesn’t anyone find it odd, that there’s been about 3 or 4 sightings of batman and it’s always been a stunt double wearing a stunt suit? Shouldn’t we have seen some sightings of the official suit by now?
sasquatchs
06-21-2007, 01:56 PM
Its not Batman, its wannabee Batman. That's why he fails miserably to breakup the drug deal
Anybody have an idea of what batman was doing without a cowl?
"Also... not being filmed was a stunt double jumping from the rooftop into the level below. He had on a Batman outfit... but no cowl."
-I pray its not the retractable thing
Also doesnt anyone find it odd, that theres been about 3 or 4 sightings of batman and its always been a stunt double wearing a stunt suit? Shouldnt we have seen some sightings of the official suit by now?
If his cowl is more of a helmet, I wouldn't think it'd retract or anything crazy. If it's just rehearsals, I could see the stunt guys going cowl less.
MagicPrime
06-21-2007, 02:02 PM
http://www.fscwv.edu/users/jfairchild/ohyeah.jpg
Ohhhhh yeaaaaaah.
http://www.fscwv.edu/users/jfairchild/ohyeah.jpg
Ohhhhh yeaaaaaah.
Holy crap! lmao!!1
spider-neil
06-21-2007, 02:16 PM
I completely agree, that design looks quite terrible, and the real design is much more effective. With good lighting and mood, the suit looks quite demonic in fact (my own manip):
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6541/tdkteaserpostercopyll3.jpg
AWESOME!!
I think with great lighting the suit will look amazing, bsts is stood on a police car hence the reason the suit looks bright the suit will work best in the shadows.
Silver Knight
06-21-2007, 02:17 PM
Hey everyone!
Can I just say Im so glad to be posting here and I love the new look.
What do you guys think with the toy pic we saw today? Do you really think Bats is ganna be blueish/gray?
sasquatchs
06-21-2007, 02:19 PM
Welcome to the Hype
No, it looks terrible, the real thing is much darker, and the armor is closer together.
Welcome to the Hype
No, it looks terrible, the real thing is much darker, and the armor is closer together.
Yeah toy looks horrible. It's like a fat guy wore the suit and gave it back to him.
Silver Knight
06-21-2007, 02:31 PM
Welcome to the Hype
No, it looks terrible, the real thing is much darker, and the armor is closer together.
Thanks for the welcome :)
So Bats will be in a darker blue or is the toy just rubbish?
Hobodeluxe
06-21-2007, 02:37 PM
Wow Matt that is awesome. Did you do the full body or just the top? I'd love to have that look in the film.
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2876/batmannewsu1og7.jpg
sasquatchs
06-21-2007, 02:38 PM
Thanks for the welcome
So Bats will be in a darker blue or is the toy just rubbish?
At the moment its an unhealthy Abe Sapien blue, the official shot shows it as black
Big pic:
http://www.comingsoon.net/images/batmannewsuit.jpg
Silver Knight
06-21-2007, 02:44 PM
At the moment its an unhealthy Abe Sapien blue, the official shot shows it as black
Big pic:
http://www.comingsoon.net/images/batmannewsuit.jpg
Well from the official pic Bats looks black, but the toy Bats is clearly blue.
So what's it ganna be?? :huh:
TheBat812
06-21-2007, 02:45 PM
You are actually wondering if the movie version of the suit will like the OFFICIAL picture or a TOY? :o
Silver Knight
06-21-2007, 02:52 PM
Yes, if Bats is going to be black or a dark blue/gray colour.
GoogleMe94
06-21-2007, 02:54 PM
"ONCE AGAIN, NOLAN COMES UP WITH SOMETHING FRESH AND DIFFERENT AND BADASS... AND ONCE AGAIN FANBOYS DONīT GET IT... "
and rightfully so. his designs for batman are just not.....batman! everything nolan is giveing batman is way too robotic/techno and way too bulky and not enough of the sleek, streamlined stuff we see in both the comics and the older films. fresh and different? sure. aesthetically awsome? hell no. i hated the tumbler then, i'll probably hate it now. the batsuit has improved slightly with the cowl, but the suit looks...um....well it doesnt look like a batsuit. what a departure from the comics.
sasquatchs
06-21-2007, 02:55 PM
Its an official picture taken during the shoot in London, it's going to be black, thankfully
GoogleMe94
06-21-2007, 02:57 PM
You are actually wondering if the movie version of the suit will like the OFFICIAL picture or a TOY? :o
i think what hes wondering is, why the hell would the toy have such a light grey/blueish look to it when its clear in the official pic that its more black then anything else?
personally, i think its just a prototype. the final product will definetly look more darker and blacker.
Super Kal
06-21-2007, 02:58 PM
no
noone is dumb enough to have the dark knight have in blue colours IMO
I completely disagree
dark_b
06-21-2007, 03:00 PM
I completely disagreeexplain.
everytime you see a guy going in combat at night he has blakc clothes.
why?
why not blue ...why black?
Silver Knight
06-21-2007, 03:01 PM
i think what hes wondering is, why the hell would the toy have such a light grey/blueish look to it when its clear in the official pic that its more black then anything else?
personally, i think its just a prototype. the final product will definetly look more darker and blacker.
Thank you. :)
That was exactly what I was thinking.
Soo let me get this straight and Im sorry its takeing me soo long to understand but here goes. Will there be gray in the new costume?
sasquatchs
06-21-2007, 03:02 PM
Thank you. :)
That was exactly what I was thinking.
Soo let me get this straight and Im sorry its takeing me soo long to understand but here goes. Will there be gray in the new costume?
Not really, just different tones of black as in Begins, with the cape begin the darkest element
dark_b
06-21-2007, 03:03 PM
Thank you. :)
That was exactly what I was thinking.
Soo let me get this straight and Im sorry its takeing me soo long to understand but here goes. Will there be gray in the new costume?it depends on the ligh.
whach BB again. if there is hard light on the BB suit then it is shinny and it looks grey. but with normal lighting it was black.
the same in TDK.
Silver Knight
06-21-2007, 03:06 PM
Thanks guys and sorry for all the questions. This movies ganna rock!
Hopefully some better pics surface soon.
GoogleMe94
06-21-2007, 03:09 PM
No. He just could say: "Hey"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/batman-begins03.jpg
"I'm Batman."
damn, i always hated this picture. it makes the batsuit look like sh**. it looks like hes wearing a black blanket in a rubber jumpsuit and that cowl....*shivers*...awful. at least if the cape had the bat-wings motif it would have looked better. while the new suit leaves something to be desired, at least its not THIS bad.
sasquatchs
06-21-2007, 03:12 PM
Looks almost perfect to me in the harsh light. I can see why they moved away from a wetsuit like design on the legs though
GoogleMe94
06-21-2007, 03:13 PM
Looks almost perfect to me in the harsh light. I can see why they moved away from a wetsuit like design on the legs though
yah, in minimal light, it looked better, blacker. in bright light, it looked like sh**.
cryptic name
06-21-2007, 03:25 PM
Thanks for the welcome :)
So Bats will be in a darker blue or is the toy just rubbish?
the toy's just rubbish. the suit's all black
^
yeah white eyes only works in the comics it would be unusual to see it in a movie
Juanigi
06-21-2007, 03:38 PM
bunk's manips are nice but I can't stop thinking of batman wearing a mesh shirt in a fetish club when I see them.
Shoemeister
06-21-2007, 03:44 PM
bunk's manips are nice but I can't stop thinking of batman wearing a mesh shirt in a fetish club when I see them.
Batman = Vito Spatafore?!?!?!?!
Yurka
06-21-2007, 03:47 PM
Batman = Vito Spatafore?!?!?!?!
hahaha
Juanigi
06-21-2007, 03:48 PM
something something because I fear mesh something something it's time my enemies shared my fear
GoogleMe94
06-21-2007, 03:50 PM
^whaa?
Yurka
06-21-2007, 03:51 PM
something something because I fear mesh something something it's time my enemies shared my fear
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/YurkaCLS55/vito3_1.jpg
batbat_29640
06-21-2007, 03:51 PM
Wow Matt that is awesome. Did you do the full body or just the top? I'd love to have that look in the film.
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2876/batmannewsu1og7.jpg
Though I'm not too crazy about the blue for a movie, I can't help but to notice how much that looks like a Bisley painting from his Batman/Judge Dread work.
Super Kal
06-21-2007, 03:51 PM
something from Batman Begins...
Matthew Allison
06-21-2007, 04:11 PM
Just for the heck of it (since most people don't dig the blue anyway)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/batsbegins91hn.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/bb190wa.jpg
Steelsheen
06-21-2007, 04:14 PM
thats good manip work Matthew.
but i just realized how awkward Batman looks with the briefs back on now. :o
Super Kal
06-21-2007, 04:14 PM
how did you do that, hobodeluxe?
regwec
06-21-2007, 04:19 PM
Great work, Matthew, though I must say that I am glad they slimmed down the neck and cowl.
darknight7
06-21-2007, 04:46 PM
Bat cape clasps?...once again
...No lenses...
New emblem...
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8630/tdkbatmantoy2uh6.jpg
--dk7
MagicPrime
06-21-2007, 04:47 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/batsbegins91hn.jpg
Apparently Batman has a lil' captain in him...
darknight7
06-21-2007, 04:48 PM
If that is properly proportioned to the actual suit...than I do not like the emblem being so small
--dk7
darknight7
06-21-2007, 04:52 PM
Bat cape clasps?...once again
...No lenses...
New emblem...
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8630/tdkbatmantoy2uh6.jpg
--dk7
What does everyone think of the very raw looking suit?
Black...grey...and than checkered kevlar chest-looking type of pattern/material
EDIT
It clearly doesnt look like that in the actual released photo of the suit. There is no pattern on the chest, just multiple layers...and the knee pads are different
--dk7
batbat_29640
06-21-2007, 04:53 PM
After looking closely at the neck of the new cowl it reminds me alot of this pic.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21960774/?qo=36&q=by%3Adeathbox-was-taken&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps
darknight7
06-21-2007, 04:55 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/Wulverene/TDKSuit.jpg
Just bumpin the pic so it can be compared side by side with the figure
--dk7
GoogleMe94
06-21-2007, 04:57 PM
What does everyone think of the very raw looking suit?
Black...grey...and than checkered kevlar chest-looking type of pattern/material
EDIT
It clearly doesnt look like that in the actual released photo of the suit. There is no pattern on the chest, just multiple layers...and the knee pads are different
--dk7
like ive said, i believe that this "toy" is just a prototype. i dont think it will actually be the final product, cuz that would be pretty insane of them.
Shoemeister
06-21-2007, 04:58 PM
Just for the heck of it (since most people don't dig the blue anyway)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/batsbegins91hn.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/bb190wa.jpg
Nice work. Very true to the comics, and the cleanest of this color scheme I've seen yet. That said, it would still look awful on film, IMO. I'm glad we're getting what we're getting!
GoogleMe94
06-21-2007, 05:00 PM
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7194/tdkbatmantoy2uh6sn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
wow, whata difference! it doesnt look alike at all. the toy looks like a skeleton version of the movie suit. the gauntlets are also very different. the toy just doesnt look complete. the grey under the chest area of the figure, its not at all like the movie suit pic. upon closer examination, at least the figure looks pretty detailed like the movie suit, its just missing the correct color scheme and certain parts are missing. the cape also doesnt have that bat shape, from what i can tell. it just looks like a cape.
Chucktallica101
06-21-2007, 05:00 PM
I think most of us can pass on the bluish/black bat undies. I would like to see a Batsuit with the mesh over the armor...but that's just one man's opinion.
MagicPrime
06-21-2007, 05:04 PM
http://www.fscwv.edu/users/jfairchild/tron.jpg
Anyone remember that movie Tron?
darknight7
06-21-2007, 05:14 PM
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7194/tdkbatmantoy2uh6sn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
wow, whata difference! it doesnt look alike at all. the toy looks like a skeleton version of the movie suit. the gauntlets are also very different. the toy just doesnt look complete. the grey under the chest area of the figure, its not at all like the movie suit pic. upon closer examination, at least the figure looks pretty detailed like the movie suit, its just missing the correct color scheme and certain parts are missing. the cape also doesnt have that bat shape, from what i can tell. it just looks like a cape.
I dont know if the gaauntlets are different. I think they are just positioned in the pic on the right (so that you see the padded part) but on the figure you can see the straps.
Look closely in the pic below...the gauntlets match the figure...
http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/1054/batsuitfront753005qs8.jpg
--dk7
Matthew Allison
06-21-2007, 05:14 PM
That said, it would still look awful on film, IMO. I'm glad we're getting what we're getting!
I think that if Warner Brothers was ever to make a SUPERMAN/BATMAN film, and they didn't intend for it to be a sequel to the Nolan films, then it might work. But that's a big "if", obviously.
GoogleMe94
06-21-2007, 05:15 PM
Reminds me of this from a couple years ago.
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1776/untitledlk9.png (http://imageshack.us)
there also seems to be ALOT more rubber and armor on the suit then is present on the figure. the plates of armor on the figure look friggin small in comparison. the mesh parts are in small portions on the suit, but they dont take over the suit.
really guys, i truly believe that its just a prototype. look at the batsymbol its not GOLD! lol just kidding, but look at the belt, its really a shiny gold and theres not detail in it.
The Guard
06-21-2007, 05:21 PM
That figure is terrible, and yes it's a bad sculpt, but those are the design elements of this suit. Might as well get used to them now.
I figured out what he looks like. Not Tron, not Robocop, or Solid Snake...Batman looks like a New God in his new duds.
Some of you are so black and white it's almost sad. You literally CANNOT like some element of something and dislike an element of something. One of them has to rock, and the other, despite also rocking, has to suck.
That said, Bunk, can you make a manip where the bodysuit and belt are black, too?
GoogleMe94
06-21-2007, 05:28 PM
i actually dont mind the new suit because it looks like a step up from the horrid begins thing. but the figure, at least at this point, looks horrible. i dont think it does justice to the new suit, but like i said, its most likely a prototype, still in the early stages. i wonder why they even have a prototype on display.......where was that taken??
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