Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Juanigi]

one thing I was thinking of is translucent lenses, as used in regular glasses or goggles, which would show his eyes completely in low light but reflect direct light to give them an opaque "glowing" appearance

not the best example, but the quickest result on google:

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/85/28/23492885.jpg

[CaptainClown]

one thing I was thinking of is translucent lenses, as used in regular glasses or goggles, which would show his eyes completely in low light but reflect direct light to give them an opaque "glowing" appearance

not the best example, but the quickest result on google:

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/85/28/23492885.jpg
not a bad idea, *THUMBS UP*

[Dvhyzs]

one thing I was thinking of is translucent lenses, as used in regular glasses or goggles, which would show his eyes completely in low light but reflect direct light to give them an opaque "glowing" appearance

not the best example, but the quickest result on google:

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/85/28/23492885.jpg
I he's near a street light i guess that would look alright, also i guess it would give him better vision.:oldrazz:

[gwynplaine]

one thing I was thinking of is translucent lenses, as used in regular glasses or goggles, which would show his eyes completely in low light but reflect direct light to give them an opaque "glowing" appearance

not the best example, but the quickest result on google:

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/85/28/23492885.jpg
Yeah something like that, just to get, if only once in a while (I understand the importance of Bale's eyes) that white look like in the comics.

[Dvhyzs]

Yeah something like that, just to get, if only once in a while (I understand the importance of Bale's eyes) that white look like in the comics.
Give him little winsheild wipers and he's set. Cuz if he gets sprayed by scarecrow, he aint gonna see much.

[CaptainClown]

Damn time to activate my Bat wipers!

[Dvhyzs]

Damn time to activate my Bat wipers!
I would kill a man to see that.

[Nepenthes]

Best thing for the eyes is to just ignore lenses and simply make them *appear* white in certain scenes. Brief flashes when he's standing in shadow or glaring at baddies. Keep it a visual trick with nothing to do with the practicality of the movie. It would be similair to the make-up around the eyes.

In some scenes in BB the eyes look white when Bale is looking out of the corner of his eye. Just emphasise the effect a little with CGI.

[gwynplaine]

Best thing or the eyes is to ignore lenses and just make them appear white in certain scenes. Just flashes when he's standing in shadow or glaring at baddies. Keep it a visual trick, nothing to do with the practicality of the movie. It would be similair to the make-up around the eyes.

In some scenes in BB the eyes look white when Bale is looking out of the corner of his eye. Just emphasis the effect a little with CGI.
Good idea. Anything as long as it looks like in the comics, even briefly like I said before.

[CaptainClown]

I would kill a man to see that.

..Then do it... go minion kill and I will show you Batman say activate bat wipers...


Im hoping my super villain crime leader spree will start

[Dvhyzs]

..Then do it... go minion kill and I will show you Batman say activate bat wipers...


Im hoping my super villain crime leader spree will start
should i use the torqouise gas, master?

[Mr. Socko]

Spandex makes me feel sexy at night

but do you want to start getting carried away with it. Though the suit is high tech it isn't like the Batman Beyond suit


I personally would love the spandex suit in a film one day. It works for Superman.

[CaptainClown]

should i use the torqouise gas, master?

GREEN! we are bringing the green back!

[CaptainClown]

I personally would love the spandex suit in a film one day. It works for Superman.

I didn't care for the superman suit but thats me (shrug) im not a fan of the superman series

[Dvhyzs]

GREEN! we are bringing the green back!
Yippy skippy!




(amh is the torquoise gas)
EDIT: superman is not a superhero that i "like".

[Mr. Socko]

yeah but you're not a fan because the costume is bad right? I'm only saying if Superman and Spider-Man can get spandex suits, it could work for Batman too.

But if they ever use spandex, there should be a padding of kevlar under it that way you can say it's bullet proof as well as making the actor's build a bit bigger.

But everyone else and their grandmother is against it

[Dvhyzs]

yeah but you're not a fan because the costume is bad right? I'm only saying if Superman and Spider-Man can get spandex suits, it could work for Batman too.

But if they ever use spandex, there should be a padding of kevlar under it that way you can say it's bullet proof as well as making the actor's build a bit bigger.

But everyone else and their grandmother is against it
Im not against it as long as it doesn't have the oval.
Also, i don't like superman because he has powers, not cuz of the tights.

[Mr. Socko]

Im not against it as long as it doesn't have the oval.
Also, i don't like superman because he has powers, not cuz of the tights.

lol

The oval days are over, that's back in the 80s:oldrazz:

What did you think of the Dead End suit?

[Dvhyzs]

lol

The oval days are over, that's back in the 80s:oldrazz:

What did you think of the Dead End suit?
I had a batgasm when i saw it, twas badas$. I didn't really care for the cowl though.

[CaptainClown]

yeah but you're not a fan because the costume is bad right? I'm only saying if Superman and Spider-Man can get spandex suits, it could work for Batman too.

But if they ever use spandex, there should be a padding of kevlar under it that way you can say it's bullet proof as well as making the actor's build a bit bigger.

But everyone else and their grandmother is against it

I am not a fan because of the actor just I don't see Superman in it. The stories just seem very plain especially with what they could do with a character like him. I especially don't care for Lex Luthor in all interpretations on the screen. I just felt it could have been a lot better, but I am not superman expert so (shrug)

[Mr. Socko]

I had a batgasm when i saw it, twas badas$. I didn't really care for the cowl though.


I loved the suit, but Joker was so lame.

I am not a fan because of the actor just I don't see Superman in it. The stories just seem very plain especially with what they could do with a character like him. I especially don't care for Lex Luthor in all interpretations on the screen. I just felt it could have been a lot better, but I am not superman expert so (shrug)


I'm not a fan of Superman Returns, myself.

[CaptainClown]

I felt Kevin Spacey wasn't quite Lex Luthor. More of a mock bond villain. That whole plan felt soo lame.

Louis Lane- what is your plan
Lex - to destroy America and then .....SELL REAL ESTATE!
Louis Lane- superman will -
Lex - WRONG!

I just thinking they could have rebooted the series le sigh

[Silver Knight]

So whats the deal? Is the costume all black?

[Hobodeluxe]

the lenses could serve several purposes.

protection is the biggest one.
Night vision
Underwater vision
zoom/range finder
targeting crosshairs

If you've ever ridden a motorcycle (or flown through the city) you'd know that having lenses just to keep the wind out of your eyes is a must.

[Dvhyzs]

So whats the deal? Is the costume all black?
would you hate me if i said no?

[Mr. Socko]

So whats the deal? Is the costume all black?


It looks entirely black to me. I have a feeling people are seeing grey because they want to.

[Juanigi]

Louis Lane- superman will -
Lex - WRONG!I still don't get that line

[CaptainClown]

I still don't get that line

I remember looking at my watch 30 times during that movie. I DIDNT EVEN HAVE A WATCH ON ME

[Juanigi]

...teol

[Dvhyzs]

I remember looking at my watch 30 times during that movie. I DIDNT EVEN HAVE A WATCH ON ME
I rented it once. I think i watched it. I didn't like it.

[Nepenthes]

So whats the deal? Is the costume all black?

It's all black, except the body is a lighter shade of black, if that makes sense (am I a retard?). the photo of the stunt suit definitely looks kinda grey, I think it's more the way light reflects of the material than the base colour itself. we'll see.

[Dvhyzs]

It's all black, except the body is a lighter shade of black, if that makes sense (am I a retard?). the photo of the stunt suit definitely looks kinda grey, I think it's more the way light reflects of the material than the base colour itself. we'll see.
Yes.








:woot:

[Nepenthes]

Dammit. I always suspected it was true :csad:

[CaptainClown]

Kinda turns your life upside down huh?

[Dvhyzs]

Dammit. I always suspected it was true :csad:
We have meetings every wednesday.

[hame4479]

I just don't see how lenses are superior to an actor's eyes. Even retractable lenses seem to be an unnesessary hi-tech addition to just make him "creepy".

-Matchbox

not really night vision is a pretty legitimate tool if you are batman. Plus it is really more an ode to the comic verse rather than an attempt to make him look creepy. Although they do have that badass effect

[CaptainClown]

I like in the comics how he would squint with the white eyes and stuff but thats just something you cant do liveoh well

[Mr. Socko]

Yeah, I liked that as well, but it isn't possible in real life. Kinda like how in many panels in the comics, the expression on Batman's cowl subtly changes.

[gwynplaine]

not really night vision is a pretty legitimate tool if you are batman. Plus it is really more an ode to the comic verse rather than an attempt to make him look creepy. Although they do have that badass effect
Right. It might not be working live but are we sure ? Spandex wasn't supposed to translate either until Superman, I guess, pulled it off.

[Qwerty©]

Right. It might not be working live but are we sure ? Spandex wasn't supposed to translate either until Superman, I guess, pulled it off.
You mean Spider-Man.

[Mr. Socko]

Spider-Man's suit was a bit more complex than just simple spandex I believe. It was tight material, but I think it was better than spandex.

[Qwerty©]

Spider-Man's suit was a bit more complex than just simple spandex I believe. It was tight material, but I think it was better than spandex.Of course, but when people mean 'spandex' they usually mean any thin stretchy material than represents comic costumes.

[gwynplaine]

You mean Spider-Man.
You are right. Thank you.

[Silver Knight]

It looks entirely black to me. I have a feeling people are seeing grey because they want to.
Exactly what I think.

[Ibn]

We have meetings every wednesday.


What's that in your avi?:wow::huh::wow::huh:

[Juanigi]

http://www.miguelmesas.com/fanfilms/PlayARKHAMsubtitled.htm

[CaptainClown]

http://www.miguelmesas.com/fanfilms/PlayARKHAMsubtitled.htm

It's like pans labryinth telemundo and a burned copy of the long halloween smashed together using duct tape

[Conebone69]

Any news on TDK? I've been gone for a while

[Mr. Socko]

http://tinypic.com/5zgxdt

Can someone point out the differences in the cowl between Begins and TDK? Looks very similar to me.

[Dvhyzs]

http://tinypic.com/5zgxdt

Can someone point out the differences in the cowl between Begins and TDK? Looks very similar to me.
Make the neck a seperate peice, get rid of the jawline and you've got a match.

[Mr. Socko]

The neck is a seperate piece from what?

[Juanigi]

the bat-looking part

[ragdus]

The neck is a seperate piece from what?



The head and neck are two separate pieces now, not one solid molded piece.

[GUNSLINGER]

The neck is a seperate piece from what?

the top part of the cowl is seperate from the neck so he will be able to turn his head from side to side without turning his whole upper torso

[Conebone69]

Make the neck a seperate peice, get rid of the jawline and you've got a match.
What do you mean get rid of the jawline?

[Matchbox]

not really night vision is a pretty legitimate tool if you are batman. Plus it is really more an ode to the comic verse rather than an attempt to make him look creepy. Although they do have that badass effect

While I do agree nightvision would be awesome, I don't like the idea of having lenses for stylistic reasons. Even as an "ode" to the comics, I don't like the idea. There are times in Batman Begins where Bale's eyes appear to have a ghostly look about them. I like that. I like the subtlety.

-Matchbox

[Conebone69]

Wait, batman has white lenses in TDK?

[GUNSLINGER]

What do you mean get rid of the jawline?

i dont know what he meant exactly there too, but it is a two piece. think helmet.

[Boom]

The mask and neck better connect perfectly. If I see Bale's hair underneath of the cowl, I will be furious.

[ragdus]

he means the way it wraps around the mouth area has been altered, creating a different looking jawline for him when in costume.

[Conebone69]

i dont know what he meant exactly there too, but it is a two piece. think helmet.
Yeah, it makes perfect sense to have two different pieces so that batman can move his neck but it just kinda looks weird and un-batman like. But It'll probably grow on me like everything else

[Dvhyzs]

What do you mean get rid of the jawline?
look here:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x87/DVN_album/untitled-2.jpg

[Mr. Socko]

Wait, batman has white lenses in TDK?


No, it was just fan ideas.

[WalterKovacs]

No, it was just fan ideas.
thank jesus christ

[GUNSLINGER]

he means the way it wraps around the mouth area has been altered, creating a different looking jawline for him when in costume.

i got ya, thanks, who was the the serial killer hitman with the knife from B.B. and the comics i can't remember?

[Conebone69]

look here:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x87/DVN_album/untitled-2.jpg


Wow, I have to admit that looks kinda stupid

[Conebone69]

No, it was just fan ideas.
Oh ok, I thought it was confirmed of somethin

[Dvhyzs]

Wow, I have to admit that looks kinda stupid
Not really, just practical.

[GUNSLINGER]

Yeah, it makes perfect sense to have two different pieces so that batman can move his neck but it just kinda looks weird and un-batman like. But It'll probably grow on me like everything else

i think they had to do something because of the batpod, it would be hard to drive that sucker with the old suit, but i heard the new suit is a plot point and necessary

[Conebone69]

Not really, just practical.
It looks odd to me

[Dvhyzs]

It looks odd to me
You never noticed that?

[roach]

not really night vision is a pretty legitimate tool if you are batman. Plus it is really more an ode to the comic verse rather than an attempt to make him look creepy. Although they do have that badass effect

Lenses over the eyes worked in Daredevil

[Dvhyzs]

Lenses over the eyes worked in Daredevil
But the movie itself didn't.:o
Plus he was blind as a bat so i didnt wanna see his eyes, it shows weakness also.

[roach]

Not really, just practical.

practically stupid...the cowl that Kilmer and Clooney wore allowed for turning of the head.

[Conebone69]

You never noticed that?
Not really until now. I mean I saw the drawing but I didnt really pay attention to the jaw but now its obvious

[Conebone69]

practically stupid...the cowl that Kilmer and Clooney wore allowed for turning of the head.
Agree, they shouldve done something different with the cowl

[roach]

But the movie itself didn't.:o
Plus he was blind as a bat so i didnt wanna see his eyes, it shows weakness also.

of the problems with the film the costume isnt one of them

[Mr. Socko]

It looks odd to me


I agree it looks odd. I always thought it best when the neck piece was apart of the cowl. Like you said, un-batman like. But I'm sure I'll start to like it once I see it in action:o

The only other problem I have is the ears. The ears just look bad to me. I love everything else about the suit though.

[Dvhyzs]

of the problems with the film the costume isnt one of them
I never said it was. I just think it would have taken away from the character instead of adding to him(in batman's case).

[Mister J]

i got ya, thanks, who was the the serial killer hitman with the knife from B.B. and the comics i can't remember?
Zsasz

[Juanigi]

practically stupid...the cowl that Kilmer and Clooney wore allowed for turning of the head.when

[roach]

Agree, they shouldve done something different with the cowl

the cowls and suits that Kilmer and Clooney wore were lighter and better. It allowed them to turn their heads...i dont see why they went back to a clunky cowl

[Mr. Socko]

practically stupid...the cowl that Kilmer and Clooney wore allowed for turning of the head.


Bale could also turn his head in Begins. There was an entire thread talking about how they finally made a cowl where Batman could turn his head and neck easily.

[Conebone69]

I agree it looks odd. I always thought it best when the neck piece was apart of the cowl. Like you said, un-batman like. But I'm sure I'll start to like it once I see it in action:o

The only other problem I have is the ears. The ears just look bad to me. I love everything else about the suit though.
They look the same to me. And yeah I'll probably start to like the cowl once I see it in action too

[Mr. Socko]

They look the same to me. And yeah I'll probably start to like the cowl once I see it in action too

Yes, they do look similar but I wasn't a big fan of the ears in Begins either. To quote the pic Dvh posted:


look here:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x87/DVN_album/untitled-2.jpg




I dislike how the ears are at the very very back of the cowl instead of streamlining with Bale's ears. Wasn't there even a scene in Begins where Bruce places a sonic listener into the cowl's bat-ear. Ugh, I just hate how they curve more foward than backwards and are so far back on the cowl.

[Conebone69]

Yes, they do look similar but I wasn't a big fan of the ears in Begins either. To quote the pic Dvh posted:





I dislike how the ears are at the very very back of the cowl instead of streamlining with Bale's ears. Wasn't there even a scene in Begins where Bruce places a sonic listener into the cowl's bat-ear. Ugh, I just hate how they curve more foward than backwards and are so far back on the cowl.
Ok, yeah I see what you mean

[roach]

when

Do you really want to go back and watch Batman and Robin just to see Clooney's head turn???
I will not be that evil to you:batman:

[WalterKovacs]

Yes, they do look similar but I wasn't a big fan of the ears in Begins either. To quote the pic Dvh posted:





I dislike how the ears are at the very very back of the cowl instead of streamlining with Bale's ears. Wasn't there even a scene in Begins where Bruce places a sonic listener into the cowl's bat-ear. Ugh, I just hate how they curve more foward than backwards and are so far back on the cowl.
thats weird cos its my favorite part lol

[Juanigi]

Do you really want to go back and watch Batman and Robin just to see Clooney's head turn???
I will not be that evil to you:batman:the perfect excuse :o

[Dvhyzs]

the perfect excuse :o
yeah i don't remember it being his head turning, twas his body instead.:cwink:

[Mr. Socko]

Doesn't matter if Kilmer and George could turn their heads....


What matters is that Bale could turn his head in Begins! So what's the purpose of making them two separate pieces in TDK? For even more comfort?

[Crook]

The cowl restrictions were still obvious. The vertical head movements were improved, but that was pretty much it.

[Dvhyzs]

Doesn't matter if Kilmer and George could turn their heads....


What matters is that Bale could turn his head in Begins! So what's the purpose of making them two separate pieces in TDK? For even more comfort?
I thought he couldn't with the panther-like cowl? :huh:

[Mr. Socko]

Why don't we build air ventilation in the suit and place a soft padding of cotton against the interior, too.

[Crook]

Why don't we build air ventilation in the suit and place a soft padding of cotton against the interior, too.
But they have that already. :huh:

[Dvhyzs]

Why don't we build air ventilation in the suit and place a soft padding of cotton against the interior, too.
agreed. :woot: But seriously, i thought bale couldnt move his head sideways.

[CaptainClown]

I remember bale in an interview said it was "bloody hot as hell" in the suit and the throat suppressed his voice so his batman voice was kind of an accident.

[Crook]

You mean influenced his voice? I highly doubt it was due to that, because he's said numerous times he already had a set idea of how to perform the role.

[Mr. Socko]

But they have that already. :huh:


No, they actually put small holes in the back of the suit under the cape so air can come in, but I say they should build a suit with a working AC ventilation system built into it!

[CaptainClown]

Well I mean to perform the role but the suit was tight against his throat which helped I dont know where i heard that

[Hobodeluxe]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x87/DVN_album/untitled-2.jpg

In that sketch the nose is protruding far more than it should. that's what looks so odd. it's a disproportionate sketch

[Conebone69]

I hope its not like that in the movie

[CaptainClown]

what?

[Dvhyzs]

I hope its not like that in the movie
like the sketch? course not, i can even draw better than that unproportion piece of garbage.

[Conebone69]

like the sketch? course not, i draw better than that unproportion piece of garbage.
Lol, yeah

[CaptainClown]

well the cowl on the left is what its going to look like

[Dvhyzs]

well the cowl on the left is what its going to look like
Na, thats just crazy quilt in disguise.:whatever: :cwink:

[CaptainClown]

Damn Crazy Quilt! He Is Everywhere!!

[cryptic name]

practically stupid...the cowl that Kilmer and Clooney wore allowed for turning of the head.

when did you see clooney or kilmer turn their heads in those movies?

[GUNSLINGER]

when did you see clooney or kilmer turn their heads in those movies?

yeah, they turn their upper torso, very limited head movement

[roach]

yeah, they turn their upper torso, very limited head movement

I tried to stop you guys but go ahead and watch B&R and you'll see a few scenes where he turns his head. That was the big thing for that suit was they were telling everyone he could turn his head. I remeber a lot about that movie because I had such high hopes for it:csad:

[GUNSLINGER]

I tried to stop you guys but go ahead and watch B&R and you'll see a few scenes where he turns his head. That was the big thing for that suit was they were telling everyone he could turn his head. I remeber a lot about that movie because I had such high hopes for it:csad:

but lets remember that franchise is in the toilet. the B.B. revitalized it and bruce is gradually making changes to adapt to his environment, that suit had NO HEAD movement, now we have a bat pod that would be almost impossible to control with the old suit.

[jimmy]

We need some more pictures of the new suit.

[Silver Knight]

We need some more pictures of the new suit.
YES! YES PLEASE!

[dark_b]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x87/DVN_album/untitled-2.jpg

In that sketch the nose is protruding far more than it should. that's what looks so odd. it's a disproportionate sketchhttp://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1520/untitled2da9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Hobodeluxe]

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1520/untitled2da9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

That's better DB might use a little more trimming but that's a lot closer.

[Silver Knight]

Gosh I need some new pics..

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I think they will next month..isn't that what they are saying with a new viral site coming?

[Mr. Socko]

Yep, we're getting all new official pics in September. Problem is, it just turned August lol

[TwilightPro101]

I've liked what we've seen thus far.

[ShadowoftheBird]

Considering this thread is over 400 pages long, I'm not sure if someone has mentioned this regarding the eyes, but what about contact lenses to give him blank eyes (all white or all black)? Not that this would be explainable in practical terms, I mean, he's not going and grabbing his contact case and a bottle of Renu or Opti-Free each time he puts his cowl on (well, maybe he would), but it would give the intended effect.

Or, as was mentioned, translucent lenses, but placing a lit focal point on the center of the lense that gives the iris of his eyes a soft silver glowing effect. And make them retractable, I guess. The most important thing is that they don't exaggerate the size of his eyes, I think. We don't want them to look like sunglasses.

I'm just trying to think of things that would be creepy.

[Mr. Socko]

For contacts, they just wouldn't work. The first thing is that they're pointless, why would he wear them? Contacts were used in the fanfilm Dead End, in some shots they looked good, but some shots they looked absolutely horrible.

In this shot, the contacts look fairly good:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5350/4weuz1.jpg

In this shot they look terrible:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7821/5aswsv5.jpg

We've been discussing the lenses, unlike the contacts, they could serve many purposes. Scare the bad guys while Batman's in shadow, used for far vision, etc. I personally would like them to use that but many are against it. But whatever, I highly doubt they're going to put anything over his eyes even if retractable.

[Crook]

Actually contacts serve 2 practical purposes:

1) To conceal the eyes, such as color, to avoid anyone making any connections to an identity

2) Gives off a supernatural aspect, by giving him an almost demonic look. It adds to the mythical aspects of the symbol he's trying to create

[Mr. Socko]

Actually contacts serve 2 practical purposes:

1) To conceal the eyes, such as color, to avoid anyone making any connections to an identity

2) Gives off a supernatural aspect, by giving him an almost demonic look. It adds to the mythical aspects of the symbol he's trying to create


Lenses cover all of that and more.

And contacts look just like that...contacts when they're white. Look at that second pic from Dead End. Bale has dark eyes, so the contacts would not look right just like they don't on Bartram.

Only way they can get his eyes entirely white without lenses and to look right would be to color them in Post Production, which would give us no meaning in the film.

[Crook]

You can't compare the look of contacts, based on a fan-film. They're low-budget for a reason.

A more comparable take, is Riddick. Imo, his eyes were done very well, especially how it was shown in the dark.

[Mr. Socko]

You can't compare the look of contacts, based on a fan-film. They're low-budget for a reason.

A more comparable take, is Riddick. Imo, his eyes were done very well, especially how it was shown in the dark.


You're right.

Riddick's eyes weren't white. They were silver and you could still tell his iris from the rest of the eye. The entire point of Batman's eyes being white is so they look as one, you not suppose to see a pupil or iris at all.

But again, either way, as much as I hate it, they aren't using lenses nor contacts just as they aren't using spandex.

Time to go back to grasping straws and hoping there's grey in the new suit!

[wd golf39]

On the next suit they should make batman have black contacts or something scarry to make the suit and batman more mysterious and terrifying.

[Figs]

On the next suit they should make batman have black contacts or something scarry to make the suit and batman more mysterious and terrifying.


I think the black contacts would be a little too much. I'm happy with just Bales eyes, or if they were to use contacts, pure white like the comics. Straight black contacts would be too horror movieish as well as looking like Batman did to Crane under his own fear gas.

[ShadowoftheBird]

You're right.

Riddick's eyes weren't white. They were silver and you could still tell his pupils from the rest of the eye. The entire point of Batman's eyes being white is so they look as one, you not suppose to see a pupil at all.

But again, either way, as much as I hate it, they aren't using lenses nor contacts just as they aren't using spandex.

Time to go back to grasping straws and hoping there's grey in the new suit!

Yeah, doesn't hurt to offer suggestion though.

And for the record, I do feel lenses could work, I just think it'd be difficult not to make them blend into the look of the rest of the suit.

[Mr. Socko]

I think the black contacts would be a little too much. I'm happy with just Bales eyes, or if they were to use contacts, pure white like the comics. Straight black contacts would be too horror movieish as well as looking like Batman did to Crane under his own fear gas.

Are these people smoking or something?

What in the hell would black contacts accomplish?

Bale's eyes are dark brown, giving him black contacts would make his iris black..wtf would that accomplish? It'd only make his eyes one shade darker.

:ninja:

[Dvhyzs]

Black Contacts= Worst.idea.ever.:o

[MAKIEVELLI]

I would like to see some night vision or something like that in the new mask. That would be awesome.

[ShadowoftheBird]

Black Contacts= Worst.idea.ever.:o

I don't really like the idea either, but I didn't want to push my white-contacts idea without some kind of other contacts suggestion.

LOLBATSYMBOLCONTACTLENSESLOL

I bet Schumacher would've done it.

[Mr. Socko]

Black Contacts= Worst.idea.ever.:o


Yes, and the fact that when he's out at night, they wouldn't make a bit of difference.

Batman faces two thugs at night.

Thug 1: I think that giant bat's iris's are brown colored

Thug 2: No man, they're black...but what difference does it make!

[JTIZZLEVILLE]

Yeah, I agree

Who cares about what his lenses look like? I'm more worried about the look of the entire suit.

[GoogleMe94]

i hate it when ppl say the look of the suit doesnt matter cuz he'll be in the shadows anyway so the thugs wont see him. oh yeah, like we the audience dont matter. its a MOVIE, remember? we all want to see a cool looking suit that is aesthetically pleaseing to the eye, or at least i would be inclined to think that. a cool looking batsuit makes the movie better IMO. noone wants to see a squishy mouthed batman who talks like he has marbles in his mouth, nor do we want to see crease upon crease, or have teeny little mouse ears on a gigantic forehead that looks as bad as mismatched clothes or a batsymbol you can barely see. that goes for the batmobile too.

[Dvhyzs]

Yes, and the fact that when he's out at night, they wouldn't make a bit of difference.

Batman faces two thugs at night.

Thug 1: I think that giant bat's iris's are brown colored

Thug 2: No man, they're black...but what difference does it make!
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x87/DVN_album/untitled-2.png

Very rough pic, but it shows the idea of lenses in the new suit.

[Mr. Socko]

Hmmm, not too bad but idk

i hate it when ppl say the look of the suit doesnt matter cuz he'll be in the shadows anyway so the thugs wont see him. oh yeah, like we the audience dont matter. its a MOVIE, remember? we all want to see a cool looking suit that is aesthetically pleaseing to the eye, or at least i would be inclined to think that. a cool looking batsuit makes the movie better IMO. noone wants to see a squishy mouthed batman who talks like he has marbles in his mouth, nor do we want to see crease upon crease, or have teeny little mouse ears on a gigantic forehead that looks as bad as mismatched clothes or a batsymbol you can barely see. that goes for the batmobile too.

spandex dammit

[wd golf39]

yea thats it Mr. Socko, im somkin somethin, something different for the suit would be nice, all white contacts would be cool too. anything to conseal his identity is better than having his natural eyes.

[Mr. Socko]

How does having black eyes conceal anyone's identity? If your best friend was walking down the street and had BLACK CONTACTS, would you not know it was him? And again, Bale's normal eye color is dark brown, so you say give him black contacts...that will do nothing but make his normal eye color one shade darker.

[Figs]

Are these people smoking or something?

What in the hell would black contacts accomplish?

Bale's eyes are dark brown, giving him black contacts would make his iris black..wtf would that accomplish? It'd only make his eyes one shade darker.

:ninja:


I think they are smoking something. There taking "The Dark" Knight" a bit too literally.

[Mr. Socko]

Jackie Chan pretty much has black iris's. Now tell me why giving Bale black contacts to make his iris color darker would help anything...

[Figs]

That pic looks really cool with the white lenses Dvhyzs. If they weren't as bright and glowing I think it would be perfect. Perfect at least if they were going to go down that route for the films.

[Figs]

Jackie Chan pretty much has black iris's. Now tell me why giving Bale black contacts to make his iris color darker would help anything...


Is this in response to me??

[Mr. Socko]

It's a response to people who say give him black contacts. lol

Now I could understand people saying give him very large contacts to make the entire eyes black, but normal black contacts...

[Dvhyzs]

That pic looks really cool with the white lenses Dvhyzs. If they weren't as bright and glowing I think it would be perfect. Perfect at least if they were going to go down that route for the films.
Yeah it was a quick pic, I just wanted to show how they would look if the light shined off of them.

[Dvhyzs]

It's a response to people who say give him black contacts. lol

Now I could understand people saying give him very large contacts to make the entire eyes black, but normal black contacts...
Look at how rediculous it looks...
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x87/DVN_album/sdg.jpg
...lame.:down:

[gwynplaine]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x87/DVN_album/untitled-2.png

Very rough pic, but it shows the idea of lenses in the new suit.
Cool manip. It really gives us a great idea of how the white lenses would look. It looks pretty badass to me.

[gwynplaine]

Look at how rediculous it looks...
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x87/DVN_album/sdg.jpg
...lame.:down:
That on the other hand feels very lifeless and uninterresting.

[CaptainClown]

well the white lenses wouldn't look like that unless you made them glow with cg but I am not digging the white lenses or contacts

[Mr. Socko]

Look at how rediculous it looks...
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x87/DVN_album/sdg.jpg
...lame.:down:

Yes but people are saying black contacts. Normal contacts don't change the color of your entire eye, just the iris.

What I'm saying is using black contacts would do nothing. And even those big contacts that cover the entire eye, looks terrible as you've just proved.

[Dvhyzs]

Yes but people are saying black contacts. Normal contacts don't change the color of your entire eye, just the iris.

What I'm saying is using black contacts would do nothing. And even those big contacts that cover the entire eye, looks terrible as you've just proved.
That's completely rediculous, how is that supposed to even come close to conceal his identity. Even full black contacts are a bad idea but atleast they physically change something, that's like giving him a beauty mark to throw people off of his secret identity.

[Mr. Socko]

My point exactly lol

Some guy said that giving him black contacts will conceal his identity. As if a giant bat suit and mask didn't work :rolleyes:

[CristiMAN]

no lenses, please! Imagine the swear to me scene in Begins without Bale's eyes... It would have half the impact... We need the eyes to be transmited the emotions.

[dark_b]

am i the only one who is laighing on the floor when someone mentions white eyes?

[slave2catwoman]

You are. They work in the comics, they work for Spider-Man. No reason they wouldn't work for Batman on film.

[Mr. Socko]

I'm forgetting them. They won't be in. It's like discussing grey in the new suit.

[MAKIEVELLI]

am i the only one who is laighing on the floor when someone mentions white eyes?

Yup.

[ShadowoftheBird]

My point exactly lol

Some guy said that giving him black contacts will conceal his identity. As if a giant bat suit and mask didn't work :rolleyes:

I'm never ever going to offer up a suggestion I wasn't really behind in the first place again, because you guys have spent more time talking about that then full-white contacts, which was what I was trying to push.

Full-black contacts would look terrible in a black suit, agreed. And while they might conceal identity, white ones would just as well and would look badass.

[Axtech]

I think one reason that the white lenses work so well in the comics is that they are often drawn in varying shapes to express Batman's emotions. You couldn't do that in Nolan's universe. If he were to include white lenses, they'd have to be completely static. While they would still look menacing at first, when his eyes never changed shape it would just become awkward-looking and lifeless.

Plus, you'd never actually get a good look at the white lenses. Think about it. For them to look as bright and vibrant as they do in the comics, they'd actually have to have a light source in them. He'd have to have GLOWING eyes (or somehow have two points of light only on his eyes, leaving the rest of him in shadow). It's a great look in the comics, but I don't think it can be reasonably pulled off in live action.

[Mr. Socko]

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1582/batmanandrobin18hk0.jpg

[GhostPoet]

heh..it's funny to read this thread. I bet if some people had it their way the Batman movies would have a guy in spandex, CGI altering his body to look muscular like in the comics with white lens over his eyes and able to leap inhuman lengths of distance.

[Mr. Socko]

heh..it's funny to read this thread. I bet if some people had it their way the Batman movies would have a guy in spandex, CGI altering his body to look muscular like in the comics with white lens over his eyes and able to leap inhuman lengths of distance.


If I had my way with Batman movies I'd have a muscular guy in neoprene material, not spandex mind you and no CGI either because the guy is already muscular. But I would give him white lenses and make him capable to leap inhuman lengths of distance.

[slave2catwoman]

How about reflective lenses? And anyway, all the people who say white would never work, it works for Spider-Man, so why is this so different?

[Infinity9999x]

I for one think that, in today's day and age, filmmakers could make lenses that look good on film. I don't think making them look good would be the problem.

The biggest argument, and the most logical, I've heard against lenses is that Bale (or any Batman actor) needs his eyes to be shown to convey emotions. And that it works in the comics because Personally, I don't buy that argument.

The biggest reason I think this is because of V for Vendetta. If filmmakers can make an entire movie with one of their main character's entire face covered, and that character is still able to convey a wide arrange of emotions, then why do we think Bale could not still convey emotions with his eyes covered? I think Bale's a talented enough actor to show us how Batman is feeling sans his eyes.

Now, I know that this will most likely never happen, but I would still like to see it. Ideally, whenever they restart Batman again, I would like to see a director try and incorporate some form of CGI, or makeup artistry, that will give the Batman actor a cowl that will move with his brows and face, as the cowl is drawn in the comics. That way we could get the lenses, and not worry about the actor's face being covered.

[Mr. Socko]

Well said. I agree.

I definitely want grey in the suit next time someone else gets a go at Batman too. :oldrazz:

[Infinity9999x]

Well said. I agree.

I definitely want grey in the suit next time someone else gets a go at Batman too. :oldrazz:

Agreed. I used to be a fan of the all black, just because it was different from the comics, and I always hated lighter colors so I loved all black compared to the gray and light blue scheme in the comics.

After all the movies sporting black suits though, I'd really like to see a change. I would love to see a black and charcoal gray scheme. It's more practical too, a charcoal gray

[Juanigi]

from all accounts, the new suit is noticably grey and darker black

[CaptainClown]

I heard one side has flesh and burn marks on the messed up side.

[Mr. Socko]

from all accounts, the new suit is noticably grey and darker black

Haven't heard anything about this.
I heard one side has flesh and burn marks on the messed up side.

I think you're confusing this with the Two Face thread.:cwink::oldrazz:

[CaptainClown]

I thought thats what we were talking about DAMN IT MY BRAIN TRICKED ME AGAIN...

[Dvhyzs]

I thought thats what we were talking about DAMN IT MY BRAIN TRICKED ME AGAIN...
Just...give...in...

[CaptainClown]

Just...give...in...

perhaps....I just might

[Mr. Socko]

Here's one of the suits. Someone took the pic before Bale or the stuntman put it on I guess

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa180/sasquatchs/batman/greggchickChicagoVisit7.jpg

[CaptainClown]

Here's one of the suits. Someone took the pic before Bale or the stuntman put it on I guess

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa180/sasquatchs/batman/greggchickChicagoVisit7.jpg
thats the old one right?

[Dvhyzs]

ya.

[CaptainClown]

How about reflective lenses? And anyway, all the people who say white would never work, it works for Spider-Man, so why is this so different?

because his eyes would be fixed he wouldn't be able to express anger through his eyes like in the cartoon or the comic.

[Juanigi]

you can tell because of the smoothly shaved legs

[sasquatchs]

I for one think that, in today's day and age, filmmakers could make lenses that look good on film. I don't think making them look good would be the problem.

The biggest argument, and the most logical, I've heard against lenses is that Bale (or any Batman actor) needs his eyes to be shown to convey emotions. And that it works in the comics because Personally, I don't buy that argument.

The biggest reason I think this is because of V for Vendetta. If filmmakers can make an entire movie with one of their main character's entire face covered, and that character is still able to convey a wide arrange of emotions, then why do we think Bale could not still convey emotions with his eyes covered? I think Bale's a talented enough actor to show us how Batman is feeling sans his eyes.


V uses his voice and every other part of his body to communicate in a very exaggerated way, Batman is mostly still and cold

[CaptainClown]

V uses his voice and every other part of his body to communicate in a very exaggerated way, Batman is mostly still and cold

ya V could move around like a mime

[Juanigi]

so what you're saying...is that v is a mime...with a white face...who dresses all in black...

V FOR CROW

[CaptainClown]

so what you're saying...is that v is a mime...with a white face...who dresses all in black...

V FOR CROW

....yes...

[sasquatchs]

Let's just have a Joker that wears the mask the entire film, then we can debate forever

[Juanigi]

I guess it's more about the laugh than the eyes...or the mouth...or the nose, hair etc

[sasquatchs]

I forgot to mention he's a mute

[Dvhyzs]

I forgot to mention he's a mute
He doesnt wear pants either...:whatever:

[Juanigi]

well, at least the mask conveys the classic joker personality more clearly than any actor could hope to

[CaptainClown]

He doesnt wear pants either...:whatever:

pants are over rated

[sasquatchs]

well, at least the mask conveys the classic joker personality more clearly than any actor could hope to

But what if he applies make-up to the mask? The ramifications are endless...

[CaptainClown]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/captain_ClownhaHa/The-Bat-1.gif
that should be the new bat suit

[Silver Knight]

Still no pics?

[itsthebatman]

If I had my way with Batman movies I'd have a muscular guy in neoprene material, not spandex mind you and no CGI either because the guy is already muscular. But I would give him white lenses and make him capable to leap inhuman lengths of distance.
Hey! You listened!:oldrazz:

[nacho]

oops double post

[nacho]

Well, I'm a fan of Jim Lee's Batman suit. I think the colors are fine, but it is hard to pull it off for movies. Anyways I drew Batman based on the Hush action figure.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/dejavu1490/name.gif

[ShadowoftheBird]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/captain_ClownhaHa/The-Bat-1.gif
that should be the new bat suit

There really is no limit to my love for this show.

[Compi716]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/captain_ClownhaHa/The-Bat-1.gif
that should be the new bat suit
"It's maddening..."

[DarkSuperman]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/captain_ClownhaHa/The-Bat-1.gif
that should be the new bat suit

"I'll see you in heck!"

[Compi716]

Hank: I am the Bat.
Doc: Yes, yes. You're THE BAT. And the Bat is the reason why we didn't take Best Group Costume... again! Last year, it was Dorothy, the Scarecrow, the Cowardly Lion, and the Bat! Oh, and how about the time we were the hard-rocking quartet of Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, Ace Frehley, and the Bat?!
Hank: The night is mine.

[CaptainClown]

I am so happy for all the venture brothers love!

[The Count]

Go Team Venture!

[ChicageauxTiger]

V

I LOVE that show ... but not as much as the Batsuit. :cwink:

^^ Sad attempt at staying on topic

[Brendan]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x250/captain_ClownhaHa/The-Bat-1.gif
that should be the new bat suit

Why is Princess Leia with Batman?

[Compi716]

Why is Princess Leia with Batman?
Costume contest.

Hank: I am the Bat.
Doc: Yes, yes. You're THE BAT. And the Bat is the reason why we didn't take Best Group Costume... again! Last year, it was Dorothy, the Scarecrow, the Cowardly Lion, and the Bat! Oh, and how about the time we were the hard-rocking quartet of Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, Ace Frehley, and the Bat?!
Hank: The night is mine.

[jimmy]

The Bat Ftw!!!

[CaptainClown]

I cut my tounge on that little slit!

[michael]

Well, I'm a fan of Jim Lee's Batman suit. I think the colors are fine, but it is hard to pull it off for movies. Anyways I drew Batman based on the Hush action figure.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/dejavu1490/name.gif

Do you mean you coloured over the Hush action figure?

[Juanigi]

do you guys think some or all of the vigilante batmen could be league of shadows stragglers who decided to follow the guy who took down their leader? it'd be practically the same situation as dkr, with less mutants.

[TheShadow]

Do you mean you coloured over the Hush action figure?

Ouch

[CaptainClown]

Ouch
ya i didn't want to say anything

[TheShadow]

I don't think anything had to said

[Dvhyzs]

oh snap

[Mr. Socko]

I'm using a TDK wallpaper right now with the pic of Batman on it. I just took a few seconds to look at the suit, and I LOVE it! From the chest plate to the knuckle pieces, it looks fantastic and appears to be rubber protective covering over a chain mill type fabric. So I believe he will be able to move much better. The only thing I don't like is the cowl and that it's a separate piece from the neck but I'm willing to look past that if it will allow more mobility.

I'm very glad they've finally updated it from the big chuck of one-to-two pieces of rubber Batman has been wearing on film since the 80s. I really disliked the Begins suit. It didn't match, the gauntlets were completely separate pieces from the gloves, the cowl was too tight with bad ears, and the cape was too thin. I am glad they kept the normal utility belt though. I like everything about the new suit except the cowl :o

[Juanigi]

wait what

did you just now see it or is there a new photo?

[Mr. Socko]

No no, just the old one lol. Just felt like bringing the topic back.

[Monster]

I'm using a TDK wallpaper right now with the pic of Batman on it. I just took a few seconds to look at the suit, and I LOVE it! From the chest plate to the knuckle pieces, it looks fantastic and appears to be rubber protective covering over a chain mill type fabric. So I believe he will be able to move much better. The only thing I don't like is the cowl and that it's a separate piece from the neck but I'm willing to look past that if it will allow more mobility.

Sorry to be an idiot but what's a cowl? :hides: :ninja:

[Jakk]

Sorry to be an idiot but what's a cowl? :hides: :ninja:

In this case it means "Helmet or Mask."

[ultimatefan]

BTW, sorry if this has been posted before, but here http://batman-on-film.com/TDK_mercha...s_8-16-07.html there are a couple interesting tidbits about Batman´s equipments including that part of the development of the new batsuit is bathing it in liquid titanium. Here´s one for those who said the new suit should apply liquid kevlar and that kind of technology.

[Monster]

In this case it means "Helmet or Mask."

Thanks Jakk! The word cowl reminded me of scowl, I don't remember Christian Bale with a scowl.

[Octoberist]

Batman-on-film has posted the following:

"* Bruce will start out the movie with the BEGINS suit but he will eventually have a need to create the new one seen in the released photos.

* Part of the process to make the new suit will be dipping it in liquid titanium.

* The most interesting part was about where Bruce will live. [My friend] asked if The Batcave will make an appearance in this movie. The rep said no, since Wayne Manor burned down and he is living in the penthouse downtown. But she did say that Bruce will be storing his arsenal of weapons, cars, and suits in a parking garage. The Batman equipment is on a giant elevator (kinda like the ones on air craft carriers) that will raise out of the floor when needed and lower below to stay hidden when not [in use]. "

http://batman-on-film.com/TDK_merchandise_reveals_plot_details_8-16-07.html

[A.J.Rimmer(BSC)]

That is quite cool. Lacking in the typical Bat-manor gothic castle theme and realistically quite dangerous (I mean he would be living with loads of other lodgers), but really cool nonetheless.

[sasquatchs]

The call sheet says Wayne asks Fox to make it. Getting everything from Fox is starting to grate

[Yurka]

Batman-on-film has posted the following:

"* Bruce will start out the movie with the BEGINS suit but he will eventually have a need to create the new one seen in the released photos.

* Part of the process to make the new suit will be dipping it in liquid titanium.

* The most interesting part was about where Bruce will live. [My friend] asked if The Batcave will make an appearance in this movie. The rep said no, since Wayne Manor burned down and he is living in the penthouse downtown. But she did say that Bruce will be storing his arsenal of weapons, cars, and suits in a parking garage. The Batman equipment is on a giant elevator (kinda like the ones on air craft carriers) that will raise out of the floor when needed and lower below to stay hidden when not [in use]. "

http://batman-on-film.com/TDK_merchandise_reveals_plot_details_8-16-07.html


:cmad:

I'm pissed the Batcave isn't going to be in it.

But I expected it wasn't going to be in it since Bruce lives in his penthouse now.

[dark_b]

Batman-on-film has posted the following:

"* Bruce will start out the movie with the BEGINS suit but he will eventually have a need to create the new one seen in the released photos.

* Part of the process to make the new suit will be dipping it in liquid titanium.

* The most interesting part was about where Bruce will live. [My friend] asked if The Batcave will make an appearance in this movie. The rep said no, since Wayne Manor burned down and he is living in the penthouse downtown. But she did say that Bruce will be storing his arsenal of weapons, cars, and suits in a parking garage. The Batman equipment is on a giant elevator (kinda like the ones on air craft carriers) that will raise out of the floor when needed and lower below to stay hidden when not [in use]. "

http://batman-on-film.com/TDK_merchandise_reveals_plot_details_8-16-07.html

i will make it as simple as possible..................no batcave??????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????

IS NOLAN OUT OF HES MIND ???? :wow:

[LexCorp]

Change is good. I don't think it will look that bad on screen.

[TromaFreak64]

Batcave is still being rebuilt... remember the 70s people!

[Monster]

Mmmm, Penthouse.

Bruce loves asking Fox for stuff, what IF Fox just said "No, make me".


Are we going to see a Bat-Plane anytime soon?

[Kleric]

Batcave is still being rebuilt... remember the 70s people!

There were some really fun stories form the 70’s. They took him back to his detective roots. I would recommend : Batman-Strange-Apparitions-Steve-Englehart (http://www.amazon.ca/Batman-Strange-Apparitions-Steve-Englehart/dp/1563895005)

“As the tale begins, Bruce Wayne has given up living at Wayne manor and he and his loyal butler, Alfred, have moved to a luxurious penthouse in the heart of Gotham. This makes it easier for the Batman to prowl the night. The first two issues, drawn by Walt Simonson (later of THOR fame) before Rogers came on board, sets the stage for what is to come. Bruce Wayne meets the beautiful and intriguing Silver St. Cloud and falls head over heels for her.”

[Silver Knight]

Batman-on-film has posted the following:

"* Bruce will start out the movie with the BEGINS suit but he will eventually have a need to create the new one seen in the released photos.

* Part of the process to make the new suit will be dipping it in liquid titanium.

* The most interesting part was about where Bruce will live. [My friend] asked if The Batcave will make an appearance in this movie. The rep said no, since Wayne Manor burned down and he is living in the penthouse downtown. But she did say that Bruce will be storing his arsenal of weapons, cars, and suits in a parking garage. The Batman equipment is on a giant elevator (kinda like the ones on air craft carriers) that will raise out of the floor when needed and lower below to stay hidden when not [in use]. "

http://batman-on-film.com/TDK_merchandise_reveals_plot_details_8-16-07.html
Thanks for this info.

[Brian Braddock]

Batcave is still being rebuilt... remember the 70s people!


I remember those stories well; that's why I'm looking forward to seeing Bruce living in the Penthouse and storing his equipment in this 'giant elevator in the garage'.

We'll see that Batcave again when WM's rebuilt in the next film so it's non-presence in TDK doesnt concern me too much.

[Mr. Socko]

Don't like that he won't be in the batcave, but this idea should still work out fine. And yea, we should have WM and the cave back for the third one.

What's putting liquid titanium on the suit for?

[Crook]

I would've been fine without the batcave for most of the film, but not even in the last act or something?? Guess no iconic shots of Bruce in his costume studying inside the cave... :(

[sasquatchs]

Don't like that he won't be in the batcave, but this idea should still work out fine. And yea, we should have WM and the cave back for the third one.

What's putting liquid titanium on the suit for?

I thought the liquid titanium was for making the metal toy rather than the suit in the film

[orestes]

I like the fact that Nolan is taking his time with Batman.

No Batcave in TDK. So be it.

No need to rush the series.

[Mr. Socko]

There was a batcave in the first film.

What's rushing anything got to do with a batcave in the film...

[Brian Braddock]

I think he means that Nolan won't put the Batcave and a newly built WM in there for the sake of it, at the expense of realism.

WM would take a while to build so Nolan's probably perfectly comfortable leaving it out and waiting till the 3rd film for Bruce to move back in.

[Crook]

I think he means that Nolan won't put the Batcave and a newly built WM in there for the sake of it, at the expense of realism.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Mad/003.gif

[Brian Braddock]

:woot:

[orestes]

There was a batcave in the first film.

What's rushing anything got to do with a batcave in the film...

The first batcave was crude. It was literally a cave filled with bats.

In need of an upgrade, yes?

[chitownballer]

I also don't think Nolan would put in liquid titanium on the suit due to his realism thing. I think this is a false rumor or it has been mis-construed

[Figs]

I also don't think Nolan would put in liquid titanium on the suit due to his realism thing. I think this is a false rumor or it has been mis-construed


I think Drexx's head might explode if it's not already smashed over that brick wall.:woot:

[Mr. Socko]

Ah, so we can't have Wayne Manor or the Batcave, because realistically, it wouldn't have been built up that quickly. I gotcha :oldrazz:

When's TDK take place after Begins? Just a few months?

[Crook]

Ah, so we can't have Wayne Manor or the Batcave, because realistically, it wouldn't have been built up that quickly. I gotcha :oldrazz:

When's TDK take place after Begins? Just a few months?
Should be. Batman was working on finding joker at the end of BB.

Though with the various seasons taking place, the entire film could take place in the span of a year, just like TLH and DV.

An added note, Wayne Manor is the only thing destroyed. The batcave still exists just fine.

I think Drexx's head might explode if it's not already smashed over that brick wall.:woot:
I'm tempted to put in a "# of times per day, realism is used to explain the unexplained in Nolan's universe" counter in my sig. :csad:

[orestes]

Ah, so we can't have Wayne Manor or the Batcave, because realistically, it wouldn't have been built up that quickly. I gotcha :oldrazz:

When's TDK take place after Begins? Just a few months?

This has nothing to do with realism. It's about substance.

I want Nolans Batman to be a slow evolution.

[Mr. Socko]

Nolan's dark gritty realism


That phrase has become funny :D


As for the movie, I don't think or really want it to take place over the span of a year. If it takes Batman that long to capture the Joker, he ain't doing too good of a job lol

[sasquatchs]

Begins was disappointingly undark, ungritty and unreal for the most part

[Figs]

Should be. Batman was working on finding joker at the end of BB.

Though with the various seasons taking place, the entire film could take place in the span of a year, just like TLH and DV.

An added note, Wayne Manor is the only thing destroyed. The batcave still exists just fine.


I'm tempted to put in a "# of times per day, realism is used to explain the unexplained in Nolan's universe" counter in my sig. :csad:


LOL, that's a great idea! You should do it! See how high the number is by the time TDK is released.

[Mr. Socko]

This has nothing to do with realism. It's about substance.

I want Nolans Batman to be a slow evolution.

How can Batman just be a slow evolution? It's impossible, what we're getting from Nolan is a trilogy in which each film should be around 2.5 hours. In the first film, we were given his entire backstory within one hour for crying out loud. This isn't a television show. It's a trilogy of films that focus on several characters, Batman being the most important. If anything, we've got to quickly evolve the characters in a believable style.

Begins was disappointingly undark, ungritty and unreal for the most part


That's why we're getting it in TDK.

[Hole Shot]

I also don't think Nolan would put in liquid titanium on the suit due to his realism thing.

There's titanium in my wetsuits. If in can be incorporated into the rubber outfit I surf in, I don't think it requires a huge stretch of the imagination to have it incorporated into an advanced combat suit developed by a multi-billion dollar defense company.

[Kleric]

This has nothing to do with realism. It's about substance.

I want Nolans Batman to be a slow evolution.

I would think it’s more about being true to the story and the characters than realism.

I would like some small mentions of the mansion rebuild project, and maybe even a small reveal of it almost complete near the end. Heck I am sure Fox is working on the “Foundation” exclusively.

[orestes]

omBegins was disappointingly undark, ungritty and unreal for the most part

Compared to the other Batman movies, it's real.