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Hole Shot
08-16-2007, 12:44 PM
I think he means that Nolan won't put the Batcave and a newly built WM in there for the sake of it, at the expense of realism.

Expense of realism? No at the expense of continuity, for all we know this film takes place immediately after BB. Unless Harry Potter swings by for a visit, a massive estate with a secret high-tech underground headquarters for crime fighting isn't going to be built in a few months.



I would like some small mentions of the mansion rebuild project, and maybe even a small reveal of it almost complete near the end. Heck I am sure Fox is working on the “Foundation” exclusively.

If I had to bet, I'm sure there will be something like in the movie.

Brian Braddock
08-16-2007, 12:47 PM
........hence realism. :oldrazz: (for Drexx)

orestes
08-16-2007, 12:49 PM
Expense of realism? No at the expense of continuity, for all we know this film takes place immediately after BB. Unless Harry Potter swings by for a visit, a massive estate with a secret high-tech underground headquarters for crime fighting isn't going to be built in a few months.

Indeed.

I would have liked to seen Wayne and Fox working together to develop gadgets rather than Fox having a stockpile on hand.

oh well.

Hole Shot
08-16-2007, 12:52 PM
........hence realism.

OK, realism and making sense are not the same thing.

Brian Braddock
08-16-2007, 12:58 PM
No, but they go hand in hand...............

Kleric
08-16-2007, 12:59 PM
I can’t help but think that things like the real world “Liquid Armor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8GqHykFCvk)” is the inspiration for the Titanium dip they mention. Heck they lifted the memory cloth from the real world so why not?

As someone who has been involved in law enforcement let me tell you that the liquid armor is a very exciting development in protection (The wives and husbands are pretty happy too) It really does sound like something thought up by a comic book writer.

chitownballer
08-16-2007, 01:00 PM
There's titanium in my wetsuits. If in can be incorporated into the rubber outfit I surf in, I don't think it requires a huge stretch of the imagination to have it incorporated into an advanced combat suit developed by a multi-billion dollar defense company.

two-shea whats the purpose of it in your wetsuit? just curious maybe thats how it incorperates into the movie

Brian Braddock
08-16-2007, 01:03 PM
Protection against sharks........

oh wait;

that's what this is for:-

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5755194055153959527

:woot:

Hole Shot
08-16-2007, 01:05 PM
Titanium is either threaded into the neoprene or coated on the inside to reflect body heat, i.e. warmth.

chitownballer
08-16-2007, 01:06 PM
gotcha, thanks

spidey2001
08-16-2007, 04:16 PM
Don't the legs look really baggy, I don't approve, there was a camera phone pic going around with batman in his new costume standing on a wooden staircase which showcased this baggy look. lool if this is the case then I'm already disappointed...

Terminator
08-16-2007, 04:18 PM
I don't why you guys obsess so much over the costume. Besides, what you see in pics isn't exactly what you're going to see on screen.

RedisforFire
08-16-2007, 04:18 PM
Quit whining. No one cares if you approve. Quit nit picking things apart. This is why fanboys annoy people. Let the film makers make the films. The suit looks great. No one is going to look inside your head and give YOU your perfect bat suit fantasy. Get over it.

Kisses,
RIF

the_monk
08-16-2007, 04:19 PM
Batman wears cargoes in this movie. Hadn't you heard? He'll also replace the cowl with a Von Dutch hat. He's trying to be chic.

Whiskey Tango
08-16-2007, 04:19 PM
He carries extra underwear in the pants in case he soils his Batshorts.

Seriously, "His pants are baggy?" WTF?

Bishop
08-16-2007, 04:20 PM
i dont like the fact the bat-symbol across his chest is split in two, to be sure. but at the same time, it wont affect the film at all.

Abaddon
08-16-2007, 04:22 PM
teh puffy pants?

GoogleMe94
08-16-2007, 04:23 PM
teh puffy pants?


yeah that irked me too. the new suit does have its positive points, but is really just looks like a rehash of the sonar suit with baggier pants and smaller symbol. too complicated.

Two-Face
08-16-2007, 04:24 PM
Quit whining. No one cares if you approve. Quit nit picking things apart. This is why fanboys annoy people. Let the film makers make the films. The suit looks great. No one is going to look inside your head and give YOU your perfect bat suit fantasy. Get over it.

Kisses,
RIF



I approve your post apart from kisses.

the_monk
08-16-2007, 04:24 PM
Go back to the Spidey suit thread and don't create a thread till you have 500 posts.:o

Easy there. It's not nearly as bad as "What is 'The Mob'?"

Although that one was preatty entertaining.

Baba Ghanoush
08-16-2007, 04:28 PM
How many times did we see the shoulder crease in still pics for BB? Compare that with how many times we saw it on film? Barely, if at all and the scenes were so quick you'd miss them easily.

So are the pants baggy? still shots suggest they are. But that doesn't mean we will see the baggyness on the blocked shots of the film.

He-Man
08-16-2007, 04:29 PM
Easy there. It's not nearly as bad as "What is 'The Mob'?"

Although that one was preatty entertaining.
LOL. That one was a first.....




http://www.epi.com/electroplating/images/masterlock_sm.jpg
This thread

GoogleMe94
08-16-2007, 04:34 PM
and the scenes were so quick you'd miss them easily.

that was a problem even worse then the batsuit creases.

Baba Ghanoush
08-16-2007, 04:36 PM
that was a problem even worse then the batsuit creases.

That's a debatable issue, something I just don't have the patience for anymore.

the_monk
08-16-2007, 04:37 PM
that was a problem even worse then the batsuit creases.

yeah, i suppose Batman really should have given up his cover and forgotten all his training just so you could masturbate over the right rear shoulder pad or his shoesize.

Bond
08-16-2007, 04:40 PM
I see black lenses and no cape clasps.

7alex
08-16-2007, 04:40 PM
stop whining.

Yurka
08-16-2007, 04:40 PM
I'm not happy with this suit :down

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/YurkaCLS55/tdk006yf0.jpg

Dvhyzs
08-16-2007, 04:41 PM
wasn't that buster in that pic?
EDIT: NVM...i was watching disturbia...just saw the new pic...

I think it just looks slightly baggy due to his stance.

Dvhyzs
08-16-2007, 04:41 PM
I'm not happy with this suit :down

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/YurkaCLS55/tdk006yf0.jpg
when did this pic come out?

GoogleMe94
08-16-2007, 04:42 PM
yeah, i suppose Batman really should have given up his cover and forgotten all his training just so you could masturbate over the right rear shoulder pad or his shoesize.

its a movie. meant for visual enjoyment. remember that.

The Squirrel
08-16-2007, 04:42 PM
The suit looks weird.

GoogleMe94
08-16-2007, 04:43 PM
stop whining. why?:whatever:

Yurka
08-16-2007, 04:44 PM
from the new pics, I dont like the new suit.

GoogleMe94
08-16-2007, 04:46 PM
what ever happened to the simple black batsuit with visible symbol? now its super ninja sonar crease teeny ears teh puffy big headed fatsuit batsuit.

Two-Face
08-16-2007, 04:48 PM
why?:whatever:


Cos there is nothing you can do. Just enjoy the pics posted.

jimmy
08-16-2007, 04:48 PM
His crotch is teh puffy. :(

Torso, arms, and cowl are :up: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But when you get down to his package and legs, the thing just falls apart. Only the boots save the bottom portion of the suit. :(:up:

the_monk
08-16-2007, 04:48 PM
its a movie. meant for visual enjoyment. remember that.

Yeah, it's a movie. Not one of those educational videos that say "pause for discussion". You can see the costume in the comics because it's a drawing. You can look at it as long as you like on a piece of paper.

kytrigger
08-16-2007, 04:49 PM
Go back to the Spidey suit thread and don't create a thread till you have 500 posts.:o
screw 500 posts. You should only be allowed to create threads after being on the Hype for 6 months.

BatScot
08-16-2007, 04:49 PM
I don't why you guys obsess so much over the costume.Because Batman is an obsessive guy who wears a costume, obviously. The simple fact is, without the costume there is no Batman. And regardless of what the character does, how he looks is his most characteristic trait.

TromaFreak64
08-16-2007, 04:50 PM
we already have a thread for this STOP trolling and trying to get people to pay attention to your worthless opinion by starting UNNECESSARY threads.

Someone PM and get this merged already.

turtlefocker
08-16-2007, 04:50 PM
There Are More Pics In Da Othah Threeadqsasd

wd golf39
08-16-2007, 05:49 PM
iunno i really like the suit, it has all that kool armor on it, they said awhile back, that they were looking for a more fabricy material for the suit, i think the suit looks badass and this movie is getting better everyday.

rashad
08-16-2007, 06:09 PM
I'm not happy with this suit :down

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/YurkaCLS55/tdk006yf0.jpg

I'd be uphappy with a Red X too.

Closerframe
08-16-2007, 07:17 PM
I like the new suit..

jimmy
08-16-2007, 07:20 PM
I hate the legs so much. :cmad:

CaptainClown
08-16-2007, 07:21 PM
only thing that really bothers me is where the suit bends at his knee

jimmy
08-16-2007, 07:24 PM
Also: the gauntlets are rubber now? WTF? I liked the heavy metal gauntlets! Those things were badassity in gauntlet form! I was like: "ZOMG!" when Batman broke Ra's sword all super hero like: Ra's: "Familiar! Don't you have anything new?!" Batman: "HOW ABOUT THIS!!!!!" *breaks sword between gauntlets* Ra's: *oh, snapz!!*

CaptainClown
08-16-2007, 07:25 PM
how do you figure the gauntlets are rubber?

Saint
08-16-2007, 07:29 PM
The cowl looks infinitely better on the new suit. The egghead look is gone, thank God, along with the ridiculous jaw. Also, the cut of the mouth opening looks to have been slightly adjusted. Easily the best look Batcowl to date.

The chest bothers me a little. It's look much bulkier than the rest of the suit, and I don't like the V-plate on top of it. Perhaps it'll look better in the film.

Also, the lack of clasps is awesome. The attachment of the cape is closer to the neck than it was before, and that's nice, too.

jimmy
08-16-2007, 07:30 PM
Are you blind? Look at that scallop! It's totally bending against his knee. Then again, Batman is supposed to shoot those scallops out of his arms like Az-Bats. Damn, these new gauntlets might rock the cock. But: I still like the heavy metal gauntlets. :( :cmad:

ultimatefan
08-16-2007, 07:31 PM
The suit clearly doesn´t crease on the shoulder the way the old one did. I think it looks pretty cool, but I wanna see more pics in appropriate movie lighting, these are clearly set pics.

ultimatefan
08-16-2007, 07:32 PM
Are you blind? Look at that scallop! It's totally bending against his knee. Then again, Batman is supposed to shoot those scallops out of his arms like Az-Bats. Damn, these new gauntlets might rock the cock. But: I still like the heavy metal gauntlets. :( :cmad:[/QUOTE]

I don´t think the scallop is bending. It could be just an optical impression. What you think is a piece of scallop bending actually looks like a piece of the leg or the waist.

sasquatchs
08-16-2007, 07:33 PM
He almost looks thin in the costume now. He needs a good meal. The way the neck fits on is a litte odd, prefer the bulky neck. Apart from that :up:

CaptainClown
08-16-2007, 07:35 PM
The neck looks really stiff and I don't care for the bending at the knee

ultimatefan
08-16-2007, 07:38 PM
The neck looks really stiff and I don't care for the bending at the knee

What you mean stiff, it´s the most flexible neck in any of the costumes.

jimmy
08-16-2007, 07:40 PM
I don´t think the scallop is bending. It could be just an optical impression. What you think is a piece of scallop bending actually looks like a piece of the leg or the waist.

Nah, it's the gauntlets. But I really like the idea of Mechanical gauntlets like Azreal Batman.

rashad
08-16-2007, 07:40 PM
Suit looks fine to me. I just want to see some official promo shots.

The-Dark-Knight
08-16-2007, 07:42 PM
I approve your post apart from kisses.

I liked the kisses, if im honest i wish people would leave me some kisses.

anyone?

no?

ultimatefan
08-16-2007, 07:42 PM
Nah, it's the gauntlets. But I really like the idea of Mechanical gauntlets like Azreal Batman.
Sorry, it clearly looks like it´s the waist, like the piece of the suit below the belt. All information is that the scallop is still a weapon, even if it is rubber, it won´t appear that way in the movie.

Bond
08-16-2007, 07:43 PM
The gauntlets aren't bending. It's just an illusion.

And what do you think Batman has on his eyes? Do you think it's like a see-thru cloth type of thing (like the Scream Masks) or black contacts or black lenses or what?

sasquatchs
08-16-2007, 07:45 PM
The gauntlets aren't bending. It's just an illusion.

And what do you think Batman has on his eyes? Do you think it's like a see-thru cloth type of thing (like the Scream Masks) or black contacts or black lenses or what?

It's just dark

Bond
08-16-2007, 07:47 PM
In broad daylight?

sasquatchs
08-16-2007, 07:48 PM
Sure, why not? It's dusk

BubbaGump
08-16-2007, 07:48 PM
http://www.epi.com/electroplating/images/masterlock_sm.jpg
This thread

"Master this thread."

BubbaGump
08-16-2007, 07:49 PM
screw 500 posts. You should only be allowed to create threads after being on the Hype for 6 months.

Screw that. Everyone loves my threads.

Dvhyzs
08-16-2007, 07:49 PM
He looks like val kilmer in that pic...

jimmy
08-16-2007, 07:50 PM
Sorry, it clearly looks like it´s the waist, like the piece of the suit below the belt. All information is that the scallop is still a weapon, even if it is rubber, it won´t appear that way in the movie.

You know, I'm not sure. You might be correct, sir.

GoogleMe94
08-16-2007, 07:51 PM
we already have a thread for this STOP trolling and trying to get people to pay attention to your worthless opinion by starting UNNECESSARY threads.

Someone PM and get this merged already.

wow, someone doesnt have the same opinion as you and you call it trolling? :whatever:

Mr. Socko
08-16-2007, 07:54 PM
Don't the legs look really baggy, I don't approve, there was a camera phone pic going around with batman in his new costume standing on a wooden staircase which showcased this baggy look. lool if this is the case then I'm already disappointed...


This is the case..........................










Didn't you get the memo?

Dvhyzs
08-16-2007, 07:57 PM
Wait so do we need the OP's approval to actually go see the movie?..:whatever:

Wams
08-16-2007, 08:03 PM
The suit looks like.....CRAP.:whatever:

antsman41
08-16-2007, 08:36 PM
they are bending but its caz we dont want bale getting injured with real one do we? if you look at the pic when Bats drops in on gordon and kida doin the same thing... "from begins" you can see them bending... but there metal in the movie world...

BatScot
08-16-2007, 08:36 PM
The cowl looks infinitely better on the new suit. The egghead look is gone, thank God, along with the ridiculous jaw. Also, the cut of the mouth opening looks to have been slightly adjusted. Easily the best look Batcowl to date.:up: An improvement to be sure.

The chest bothers me a little. It's look much bulkier than the rest of the suit, and I don't like the V-plate on top of it. Perhaps it'll look better in the film.:down I doubt it... and frankly I'm astonished that they actually managed to make the logo look worse when they were actually quite close the first time :cmad:

Also, the lack of clasps is awesome. The attachment of the cape is closer to the neck than it was before, and that's nice, too.:up: :up: way up

Oddly enough, this is the sort of overall look I would have expected the first time around, with refinements made in subsequent films.

GoogleMe94
08-16-2007, 09:02 PM
the whole reason how he gets the suit reminds me of Forever, when the batsuit gets destoryed by villians and then has to wear the "prototype" suit and this just happens to look alot like the sonar suit.

upon further examination, the cowl doesnt look like THAT big of an improvment, the egghead looks like its still there, with the ears being just a bit taller, but not too much. suit still looks very robotic and the proportions look all wrong.

Capt Throbberson
08-16-2007, 09:05 PM
I wish the symbol was bigger and more visible, but other than that I think it's an improvement.

lujho
08-16-2007, 09:16 PM
I think it's a clearly better made suit, that looks really cool, but in the process of fixing the Begins suit's flaws they unneccessarily made it look less like what Batman should look like. They could have fixed the flaws in much the same ways but without losing the sleeker/smoother look (or indeed they could have further enhanced it)

I think they threw the baby out with the bathwater. When getting rid of what was bad about the Begins suit, they got rid of a lot of what was good.

"_____"
08-16-2007, 09:21 PM
I trust in Nola.... **** it, i dont like the suit... to much going on in it... i want simple... so yes i want a spider man look to it...., fabric bullet proof

Green Goblin 1964
08-16-2007, 09:22 PM
I absolutely LOVE the suit...just one of the pics made it too hi-tech looking but I'll get used to it....


Dig it.

What happened to the stills thread? That thread was teh sH%&

Mr. Socko
08-16-2007, 09:28 PM
I honestly don't like the new suit. Too high tech looking, kinda like the second Batman Forever one. I don't like the way it bends and just too much going on for me, all of these separate parts pieced together through the chain mail. But the cowl is definitely an improvement over Begins and I'm glad they kept the belt.

CaptainClown
08-16-2007, 09:30 PM
I like it minus that bend at the knee I still think its cool.

superkong 500
08-16-2007, 09:35 PM
Are you blind? Look at that scallop! It's totally bending against his knee. Then again, Batman is supposed to shoot those scallops out of his arms like Az-Bats. Damn, these new gauntlets might rock the cock. But: I still like the heavy metal gauntlets. :( :cmad:[/quote]

Well let me reveal a sad truth to you, the begins scallops weren't metal either they were made too look like bronze or whatever metal they were supposed to be made off. There's one scene in begins just like this one it takes place in gordons balcony and bats is crouched in almost the same position as in this pic his forearms are resting on his thighs and you can clearly see in one of the gauntlets that the scallops are folding too. So this is not a thing ahppening with just this new suit but with the begins one as well. In movies they often use several materials to represent metal in lord of the rings for example there were metal swords mostly for close-ups and rubber swords for fighting/stunts plus other materials which names I don't recall at the moment.
In two towers the easterlings had heavy armor but in some of the shots their spikes waved,trembled and woobled like if made of cheap rubber.
So is the case in batman begins and TDK, this is made for safety reasons and whatnot but you shoudn't worry this pic is a set pic Iam sure that in the movie you won't notice this and they will look like metal.

CaptainClown
08-16-2007, 09:36 PM
You won't nobody in their right mind would use real spikes to do stund fighting

gwynplaine
08-16-2007, 09:47 PM
It's black, it vaguely ressembles a bat, it's fine.

SolidSnakeMGS
08-16-2007, 10:47 PM
Bale looks soooo thin though. He is obviously smaller than in BB. As a result, his head looks HUGE.

Suit looks plasticky. Too much going on.

Damn, my first major complaint about TDK.

gwynplaine
08-16-2007, 10:50 PM
Bale looks soooo thin though. He is obviously smaller than in BB. As a result, his head looks HUGE.

Suit looks plasticky. Too much going on.

Damn, my first major complaint about TDK.
But he wil make a great bobblehead.

SolidSnakeMGS
08-16-2007, 10:54 PM
But he wil make a great bobblehead.

lol

Agentsands77
08-16-2007, 10:57 PM
I liked the original picture of the new suit, but the way it looks in a lot of the new pictures... meh. Doesn't do a lot for me.

JTIZZLEVILLE
08-16-2007, 11:00 PM
I trust in Nola.... **** it, i dont like the suit... to much going on in it... i want simple... so yes i want a spider man look to it...., fabric bullet proof

"fabric bullet proof?"

Do you even realize what you just said? That's the biggest oxymoron I've ever heard of.

Tempest19
08-16-2007, 11:00 PM
The batsuit looks good and under the right lighting it will look great. Only doesn't look that great in the pic in the reply above, every other pic it looks great. And chances are that pic above isn't under the correct lighting.

JTIZZLEVILLE
08-16-2007, 11:01 PM
I liked the original picture of the new suit, but the way it looks in a lot of the new pictures... meh. Doesn't do a lot for me.

I do agree. I was hoping a much improved, sleek version of the Begins suit.

The only thing I like better in the new pictures compared to the first released one is that fact that it doesn't look as bulky.

joevonaxeman
08-16-2007, 11:02 PM
I'm not kidding, I honestly think the new suit looks like this:
http://www.qwipster.net/steel.jpg
Seriously, from the "steel plated look" to the whole mesh/chainmail stuff where there isn't armor... Please, somebody better at photoshop than me make this picture legendary :woot:

MechaOrga
08-16-2007, 11:16 PM
Yeah, I'm VERY disaapointed with the suit.

No one can say that the suit is all they were hoping for and more.

It looks like a metal gear suit from the new game coming out with a tiny bat emblem on it. i never thought i would actually want a yellow oval on a suit but now looking at this, i don't know....

No clasps=cool

My MAJOR beef with the Begins suit was it looked to busy for my tastes....

You can imagine how I feel looking at this design LOL

Love Movies, its what i do.Love Batman its what i read.Love Nolan. Loveed Batman Begins.

I'll give this look a chance

Agentsands77
08-16-2007, 11:16 PM
I do agree. I was hoping a much improved, sleek version of the Begins suit.
At its core, I think that's what it is. But I think the bright lighting in those pics makes it look goofy (BEGINS' suit didn't look so great in intense lights, either). I think the new suit will look fantastic in the shadows, but when exposed under lighting, it'll probably look more than a little awkward (as it does here).

sasquatchs
08-16-2007, 11:20 PM
That party scene isn't going to be as dark as I'd like, even after the color correction. Killing the lights would have been a good idea. But its a dramatic quibble more than the look of the suit for me, looks fine

Borat
08-16-2007, 11:20 PM
teh puffy pants?lol! that has a nice ring to it.

Tempest19
08-16-2007, 11:24 PM
At its core, I think that's what it is. But I think the bright lighting in those pics makes it look goofy (BEGINS' suit didn't look so great in intense lights, either). I think the new suit will look fantastic in the shadows, but when exposed under lighting, it'll probably look more than a little awkward (as it does here).

Exactly. The city at night scene, for example, looks AMAZING!

gwynplaine
08-16-2007, 11:26 PM
I wish the suit had a snout like a bat.

sasquatchs
08-16-2007, 11:26 PM
Exactly. The city at night scene, for example, looks AMAZING!

That was my favorite of the 19

Juanigi
08-16-2007, 11:27 PM
the mouth opening of his mask in certain drawings looks like the gaping jaw of a bat

bunk
08-16-2007, 11:33 PM
The cowl and cape attachment are definite improvements. Unfortunately, not good enough to offset the rest I dislike about it.

Silver Knight
08-16-2007, 11:34 PM
no gray in Bats new costume?

Myself Im very dispointed..

Bats
08-16-2007, 11:35 PM
I'm fine with it. If they weren't going to do it in the 1st film, then they weren't going to do it in this one.

bunk
08-16-2007, 11:35 PM
*flips on the hunter rider signal*

DarthSkywalker
08-16-2007, 11:35 PM
I find it interesting how bright the new film looks and how much of that involves Batman in well lite places. Really have a lot of faith in that suit.

Dvhyzs
08-16-2007, 11:36 PM
I find it interesting how bright the new film looks and how much of that involves Batman in well lite places. Really have a lot of faith in that suit.
prolly due to lack of dark green filter.

Rezzo
08-16-2007, 11:36 PM
Doesn´t even matter

ChrisBaleBatman
08-16-2007, 11:39 PM
I think if you are, your probably too busy worrying about Heath's Joker make up to worry about Batman's costume.

Although, Batman's costume kicks so much ass.

Dvhyzs
08-16-2007, 11:40 PM
*flips on the hunter rider signal*
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x87/DVN_album/batsignal.gif

go for it.

DarthSkywalker
08-16-2007, 11:41 PM
prolly due to lack of dark green filter.

They didn't filter shots inside outside of Arkham.

Spade
08-16-2007, 11:41 PM
There's a fabric batsuit in the movie. A fabric batsuit. In the movie. What more does Nolan have to give before this becomes more of the fanbase's film than his?

deemar325
08-16-2007, 11:43 PM
I like the new suit

The Caped Knight
08-16-2007, 11:50 PM
Based on the new pics, My opinion of the new batsuit has changed (I like it, but I find it way too High-tec, I still prefer the original suit .)

However I have a strong feeling the mintue I see it on screen, I 'll love it .

Silver Knight
08-16-2007, 11:59 PM
Clearly from the new pics the fabric is indeed black.

Tempest19
08-17-2007, 12:00 AM
He never said it wasn't black.

Spade
08-17-2007, 12:01 AM
Still, it's a Batman. Not Batman himself, but at least a nod to some people who thought what they meant by "a looser fit" was going to be a fabric version.

batman44
08-17-2007, 12:02 AM
I REALLY like the new suit now more than ever. The cowl and cape attachments are huge improvements imo.

Tomar-Re
08-17-2007, 12:02 AM
In the end it makes no difference to me. My interest in the film runs deeper than costumes.

Bats
08-17-2007, 12:04 AM
Still not disappointed.

Spade
08-17-2007, 12:04 AM
In the end it makes no difference to me. My interest in the film runs deeper than costumes.

Now there's a viewpoint worth respect. :up:

Cowleen
08-17-2007, 12:05 AM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x87/DVN_album/batsignal.gif

Silver Knight
08-17-2007, 12:12 AM
Lol whats with the Bat signal?

Spade
08-17-2007, 12:13 AM
It envokes the...uhh, excitement, and it...the suit...well, I really have no clue. :huh:

Rezzo
08-17-2007, 12:13 AM
Lol whats with the Bat signal?

It´s the hunter rider signal... so he comes to close a thread :ninja:

Tempest19
08-17-2007, 12:13 AM
If I got this right- it's signaling a mod to set things right?

Tomar-Re
08-17-2007, 12:13 AM
upside down.. a sign of distress perhaps?

batman44
08-17-2007, 12:15 AM
I don't care, the suit look awesome imo.

Capt. Jack
08-17-2007, 12:15 AM
what happened to the cave!!!???!!!

that is what i want to know!?!?!

Spade
08-17-2007, 12:15 AM
I like that it looks mobile and less like he's constrained/ has a case of t3h puffy. The leak (outside of the version on the rack) is a little less clear, but even crouched it looks great. The ridges really get brought out well in the darkness. It looks great to me.

Dvhyzs
08-17-2007, 12:15 AM
Lol whats with the Bat signal?
:o.

Cowleen
08-17-2007, 12:16 AM
Its the hunter_rider signal to end this travashamockery.

Tomar-Re
08-17-2007, 12:17 AM
i'm not keen on the curled shoulders. it looks as if the iron sheik's wrestling boots are strapped to his shoulders

Spade
08-17-2007, 12:18 AM
I don't care, the suit look awesome imo.

Not to be a stickler for spelling, but it's "Luthor."

what happened to the cave!!!???!!!

that is what i want to know!?!?!

Giant explosion took it out and they remodeled with a sturdier design. That sums it up for me.

TromaFreak64
08-17-2007, 12:22 AM
we had a BATSUIT thread... stop creating unnecessary threads. Will someone PM to get this merged.

jtfaria
08-17-2007, 12:22 AM
Could be worse. Could be red, yellow and blue with the underwear on the outside.

roach
08-17-2007, 12:24 AM
this is easily the worst suit of the series and some of the other ones had nipples on them

OneKnight
08-17-2007, 12:28 AM
what happened to the cave!!!???!!!

that is what i want to know!?!?!

The true Batcave hasn't been built yet. Don't forget, the mansion burned down. TDK doesn't take place long after BB. There's no way it could be built that fast.

Bruce stays in his penthouse apartment in Gotham. It looks like he's operating out of a spare room within the apartment. A make shift Batcave.

It would be cool if they mention that he owns the whole building since he'd need to do some creative wiring that might raise suspicion if he were simply a tenant.

DarthSkywalker
08-17-2007, 12:32 AM
this is easily the worst suit of the series and some of the other ones had nipples on them

Cause you have actually seen it on film. :whatever:

cryptic name
08-17-2007, 12:35 AM
what happened to the cave!!!???!!!

that is what i want to know!?!?!

it's under construction

Maboroshi
08-17-2007, 12:38 AM
I'm fine with no grey in the suit. What I would like is a slight shine with blue tint and silky texture for the cape with cape and cowel attached. Maybe a grey symbol on the chest actually to help bring it out more. Possibly white lenses.

roach
08-17-2007, 12:52 AM
Cause you have actually seen it on film. :whatever:

what will seeing the suit on film do to make that better????

1981
08-17-2007, 12:52 AM
No grey in the suit? Damn! This really throws off my day. :: tisk, tisk ::

DarthSkywalker
08-17-2007, 12:55 AM
what will seeing the suit on film do to make that better????

The suit is built to look good once all editing and touch up work is done. Nothing more. Just look how different the one released pic looks.

Spade
08-17-2007, 12:57 AM
this is easily the worst suit of the series and some of the other ones had nipples on them

I know I'll regret asking, but may I ask why?

1981
08-17-2007, 12:57 AM
Can we make a thread about Joker's socks next?

SolidSnakeMGS
08-17-2007, 01:04 AM
Wtf, They Are Not "baggie"?!?!?!?!?!!

IDK, Are They?!?!?!?!?!?!

The_J0k3R
08-17-2007, 01:08 AM
Don't the legs look really baggy, I don't approve, there was a camera phone pic going around with batman in his new costume standing on a wooden staircase which showcased this baggy look. lool if this is the case then I'm already disappointed...


Youre a spiderman fan... of coarse you like the all tight look.

Batman is not homosexual like your boy Spiderman (Jokes)

Mito88
08-17-2007, 01:10 AM
Quit whining. No one cares if you approve. Quit nit picking things apart. This is why fanboys annoy people. Let the film makers make the films. The suit looks great. No one is going to look inside your head and give YOU your perfect bat suit fantasy. Get over it.

Kisses,
RIF


just thought he should read this again. :yay:

SolidSnakeMGS
08-17-2007, 01:11 AM
What sucks is if you look at Batman's forearm blade things they are bending as they rest on his knees.

Dvhyzs
08-17-2007, 01:12 AM
What sucks is if you look at Batman's forearm blade things they are bending as they rest on his knees.
they are just fake blades...not the real ones..


They wouldnt do much if they were rubber.

Mito88
08-17-2007, 01:15 AM
i dont mind at all.

1981
08-17-2007, 01:15 AM
What sucks is if you look at Batman's forearm blade things they are bending as they rest on his knees.

Yeah, not too good on the part of the costume maker. How's Bale suppose to get into his crazy acting mode with rubber forearm blades?

cryptic name
08-17-2007, 01:17 AM
this is easily the worst suit of the series and some of the other ones had nipples on them

and this is easily the most bulls**t statement in this thread. fitting.

SolidSnakeMGS
08-17-2007, 01:19 AM
they are just fake blades...not the real ones..


They wouldnt do much if they were rubber.

Same could be said about the costume, as in it doesn't look like the real one. Hopefully, we get very little of the whole costume in lights, because it does NOT look good. The pic with him looking to the side with the city in the background looks great however.

1981
08-17-2007, 01:22 AM
What about the pic of Crane fishing for boogers?

Dvhyzs
08-17-2007, 01:23 AM
What about the pic of Crane fishing for boogers?
:up:

jesse custer
08-17-2007, 01:38 AM
##############################

1981
08-17-2007, 01:42 AM
So, what is the final product if they're already on set filming in those suits?

gazzilla8000
08-17-2007, 01:45 AM
I am pretty disappointed, based off these shots. The legs look baggy and the head looks enormous. In fact, it looks like something from a Schumacher film, minus the colour. Its just too busy, looks ugly to me.

Although the shot with Gotham in the background looks really good. I guess it just looks bad in well-lit environments.

Boom
08-17-2007, 01:50 AM
I like the new suit quite a bit. I am a little irked by the looseness/bagginess of the legs, but that's a minor nitpick that I'm willing to overlook.

360sculptguy
08-17-2007, 02:19 AM
Doesn't batmans new costume look...

...worse than his old one?

yes.

Boom
08-17-2007, 02:21 AM
New suit's cowl
+
New suit's neck
+
New suit's shoulders
+
New suit's cape attachments
+
New suit's forearms
+
The rest of the old suit
=
Win.

jimmy
08-17-2007, 03:19 AM
But that whole crotch section. . . eh :down:

DSET
08-17-2007, 03:23 AM
The bagginess of the legs is probably so Bale and the stuntmen can move around and walk/ run comfortably. These pics don't repesent the final product-trust me!

thats what i was thinking
theres probably gonna be alot more lighting added to the pictures


half of the pics look polished half dont

jimmy
08-17-2007, 03:28 AM
The half that don't are just the ones Mr. Clay manipulated. The original pictures all look as fresh and zestfully clean.

DSET
08-17-2007, 03:31 AM
The half that don't are just the ones Mr. Clay manipulated. The original pictures all look as fresh and zestfully clean.

the one were hes sitting on the porch doesnt look like it is gonna be in the movie
A-its a portrait
B- the lighting is wonky

and thats my reasoning for believing that we may see some improvements in the polished film
but then i see the same ugliness in the pants in one of the interragation pics so that kind of cancels out my theory

jimmy
08-17-2007, 03:32 AM
I heard Batman actually comes out during the day in this movie, so ya never know!

1981
08-17-2007, 03:34 AM
the one were hes sitting on the porch doesnt look like it is gonna be in the movie
A-its a portrait
B- the lighting is wonky

and thats my reasoning for believing that we may see some improvements in the polished film
but then i see the same ugliness in the pants in one of the interragation pics so that kind of cancels out my theory

Yeah, maybe that's because all of these are photographs. Not movie screen shots from their cameras.

jimmy
08-17-2007, 03:34 AM
I like everything but the legs/crotch.

DSET
08-17-2007, 03:35 AM
I heard Batman actually comes out during the day in this movie, so ya never know!

would be akward but I dont mind that Im just hoping that the suit stays looking as good as it did in the first pic on the car
and that because of good lighting and a polished film we dont see the puffyness in the pants and what not.

jimmy
08-17-2007, 03:35 AM
I don't care.

DSET
08-17-2007, 03:35 AM
Yeah, maybe that's because all of these are photographs. Not movie screen shots from their cameras.

really I never knew that
:dry: :dry: :csad:

that is good news tho

Bond
08-17-2007, 03:36 AM
Jimmy, I've always wondered... how do you have a 100x100 avvy with only 4000 (now closer to 5000) posts? I thought you had to have 6000 posts to have an avvy that size.

1981
08-17-2007, 03:37 AM
Obviously, some people are blundering idiots (not you).

jimmy
08-17-2007, 03:39 AM
I was in the right place at the right time?

DSET
08-17-2007, 03:39 AM
Obviously, some people are blundering idiots (not you).

LOl i dont care I admit it
I didnt know

dark_b
08-17-2007, 03:40 AM
after seeing hte new leaked pics i think that the BB suit looks smaller. it looks like it is from a different material.

the new suit is just badass. he can move every part on hes body plus what important hes neck.

but i hate seeing batman at the penhouse at full light. everyone has seen him.

jimmy
08-17-2007, 03:41 AM
would be akward but I dont mind that Im just hoping that the suit stays looking as good as it did in the first pic on the car
and that because of good lighting and a polished film we dont see the puffyness in the pants and what not.

Well, he's the goddamn Batman.

1981
08-17-2007, 03:43 AM
but i hate seeing batman at the penhouse at full light. everyone has seen him.

Maybe they'll dim the lights and put on some cool jazz for his entrance. :cool:

jimmy
08-17-2007, 03:44 AM
Maybe everyone one just thinks they've seen him. The Batman is, like, a magician and stuffs.

LexCorp
08-17-2007, 03:44 AM
I like the new suit using a helmet so the actor can turn his head. Makes sense too.

alabamaassassin
08-17-2007, 03:45 AM
i'm sure that the shots in the film would not convey the sloppiness of the pants. i saw a pic of the stunt suit which looked baggy all over (padding) so maybe he is wearing the loose pants because it's a torso and head shot. i do like how the neck and hood are more streamlined. if you compare the new suit pics with the one of bruce at gunpoin, you can see the huge difference.

dark_b
08-17-2007, 03:46 AM
this is not a joke guys. i really thought that batman will shut down the lights before he enters. this is not what he learned from ras.

it destroys everything. but i will need to see this in the context of the movie.

jimmy
08-17-2007, 03:47 AM
I heard he can disappear.

Batman>all
08-17-2007, 03:48 AM
Cowl, sleekness, cape and lack of clasps= awesome!

Edit the pics to be a bit darker and we got a great bat suit.

DiMiT
08-17-2007, 03:50 AM
I reckon it allows for movement
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/MCHammerMoonwalk.gif

jimmy
08-17-2007, 03:51 AM
I reckon it allows for movement
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/MCHammerMoonwalk.gif

Bwaahahahaha!

DSET
08-17-2007, 03:52 AM
Well, he's the goddamn Batman.

"Oh sweet Jesus"

DSET
08-17-2007, 03:52 AM
I reckon it allows for movement
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/MCHammerMoonwalk.gif

LoooooooooooL

graveyardtramp
08-17-2007, 03:55 AM
I don't really like the new suit at all. If the script and direction and acting are good, it won't spoil the movie for me in any way, and of course I will save my final judgement until I see it in action on the screen, but it really is to me a very ugly looking, awkward suit....it conveys none of the romanticisim of the character. To be honest, I don't know how this nw suit even got past the sketch design stage. I dread to think how ugly most of the Dark Knight Batman action figures are going to be.

dark_b
08-17-2007, 04:17 AM
I heard he can disappear.in bB only the badguys saw him. and it was fast and he kicked their asses. ehre he is in the penthouse. people around see batman. they see now that he is a normal huma nin a high-tech suit. and they see that some pathetic guy wit ha mask can hold him and the joker is kicking him.

this is a disater. but only a disaster in hte pics. i need to se ethis in the context of the movie.

Shoemeister
08-17-2007, 04:41 AM
teh puffy

nightwing07
08-17-2007, 04:50 AM
the symbol looks crappy
i liked the bb symbol
why screw it up nolan
suit looks too futuristic!

Two-Face
08-17-2007, 04:52 AM
the symbol looks crappy
i liked the bb symbol
why screw it up nolan
suit looks too futuristic!


:whatever:

Wolfman
08-17-2007, 07:30 AM
About the symbol... It looks darker then the rest of the suit. Even the flaps in which it lies on (cut in half! wtf is that?) is black. It's definetly blacker then other parts of the suit. How bout that?

Mr. Socko
08-17-2007, 07:40 AM
I think the new suit has too much going on. It's ok though, as for the Nolan-Bat symbol, I actually never was a fan of it and was glad that it never appeared on the Begins suit. But it seems to be on the chest of the new suit, oh well. Not a big deal.


http://www.dhalsall.com/images/brands/Batman%20Begins%20logo.JPG

dark_b
08-17-2007, 07:45 AM
this new symbol on the stui is like 50% smaller then the old one.

Wolfman
08-17-2007, 07:46 AM
I agree. Way too much going on. And the straps across Batman's arms, that seem to hold the shoulderpieces in place... On the leaked pictures where his crouching on the wooden fence, his left arms strap is folded. One would think it could be dangerous, because it might get caught on something. But whatever.

Mr. Socko
08-17-2007, 07:54 AM
As I had said before, the new suit looks as if it's made of several rubber armored parts that are pieced together through the chain mill.

The Guard
08-17-2007, 07:56 AM
But wait...I thought you all LOVED the new suit?

DarkKnight84
08-17-2007, 07:56 AM
New suit looks great. Looks sooo much cooler than begins.

Monster
08-17-2007, 07:58 AM
I didn't pay attention the suit, more interested in how different the settings were and how eerie it was.

orestes
08-17-2007, 08:10 AM
Not really a fan of the new suit, but it does look much sleeker than the Batman Begins suit. It's possible those pictures don't do it justice and it'll look better in action.

Nolans story is still evolving so maybe by the third film we'll get a more traditional Batman we're accustomed to.

Hobodeluxe
08-17-2007, 08:17 AM
Not a fan of the new suit. It will look better in the final film but those pants are terrible.

Two-Face
08-17-2007, 08:39 AM
I like it.

Bishop
08-17-2007, 08:41 AM
Not really a fan of the new suit, but it does look much sleeker than the Batman Begins suit. It's possible those pictures don't do it justice and it'll look better in action.

Nolans story is still evolving so maybe by the third film we'll get a more traditional Batman we're accustomed to.


grey cloth? i can't see it happening

Monster
08-17-2007, 08:42 AM
I don't mind what it looks like, I just want to see what all the hype is about The Joker :D

Dark_Lord
08-17-2007, 09:01 AM
this new symbol on the stui is like 50% smaller then the old one.

Thats the only thing that "bothers" me about the new suit.

dark_b
08-17-2007, 09:09 AM
Thats the only thing that "bothers" me about the new suit.
it didnt look that small when he is standing on hte police car right? :huh:

Dark_Lord
08-17-2007, 09:10 AM
it didnt look that small when he is standing on hte police car right? :huh:

Yeah, I noticed that too. Maybe its just the angle, that pic was taken from (police car pic).

moguy
08-17-2007, 09:53 AM
After seeing the leaked pics, I'm defintely not liking the new suit.

Hopefully the increased mobility makes up for the changes, but in still shots it looks inferior to the original (IMO)

SolidSnakeMGS
08-17-2007, 10:04 AM
Maybe I'll make a manip when I get a chance, but I'd like to see:

-keep the BB suit from below the neck.
-make the head/neck like in TDK.
-maybe armor the arms and shins like in TDK.
-make the cape wraparound like from BTAS.

Then I would be very happy.

Mr. Socko
08-17-2007, 10:06 AM
I love when the cape drapes over Batman's shoulders.

This suit is a bit too tech for me, I prefer something more simple. Can't honestly believe I'm saying this but I like the Begins suit more overall, well from those pics, I do.

BatScot
08-17-2007, 10:07 AM
it didnt look that small when he is standing on hte police car right? :huh:Compared to the Begins chest logo the TDK logo appears to be apx. 1/3 the size.

BatScot
08-17-2007, 10:09 AM
This suit is a bit too tech for me, I prefer something more simple. Can't honestly believe I'm saying this but I like the Begins suit more overall, well from those pics, I do.Ironic isn't it.

Mr. Socko
08-17-2007, 10:10 AM
Yep. When I compare the two, the Begins suit seems great, this one seems sub-par.

As opposed to being partially grey, the suit actually seems to have a grey tone to it. Like in the light, it comes off grey looking, and at night looks black. But damn, there's just so much going on in the new suit. So much lining, armored sections, etc. Don't like the Begins symbol on the suit(it wasn't in Begins ironically). But the cowl looks 100x better.

jesse custer
08-17-2007, 10:14 AM
So, what is the final product if they're already on set filming in those suits?


Ever here of cgi, digital alterations?

BatScot
08-17-2007, 10:17 AM
Yep. When I compare the two, the Begins suit seems great, this one seems sub-par.Whoa, whoa, whoa, let's not get carried away... when you compare the two the Begins suit seems less offensive ;)

dark_b
08-17-2007, 10:17 AM
Ever here of cgi, digital alterations?i hate those kind if posts.
someoen doesnt like a designe,hair or something similar and then some guy comes on the forum and says that maybe they will use CGI to change it,

the same happened with the joker,two face and now for the suit.

orestes
08-17-2007, 10:39 AM
grey cloth? i can't see it happening

Of course not.

..but if you changed the color of the new suit to grey, kept the black bat symbol and matched the cowl with the cape you'd have a semi close interpretation of the traditional costume.

why Nolan didn't do that is beyond me. I guess in his "realistic" world, it's ALL about functionality.

nameless_hero
08-17-2007, 11:49 AM
So is there another pic of the new suit, other than the one on top of the police car?

It seems like you guys are talking about different images of this new suit.

Mr. Socko
08-17-2007, 12:00 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa, let's not get carried away... when you compare the two the Begins suit seems less offensive ;)
LOL

Of course not.

..but if you changed the color of the new suit to grey, kept the black bat symbol and matched the cowl with the cape you'd have a semi close interpretation of the traditional costume.

why Nolan didn't do that is beyond me. I guess in his "realistic" world, it's ALL about functionality.

I think that would have been a good idea. But color has nothing to do with it being 'realistic' or not. They probably didn't even consider grey, just automatically decided on black. It's not like he decided against grey because it doesn't fit into the "realism."
So is there another pic of the new suit, other than the one on top of the police car?

It seems like you guys are talking about different images of this new suit.


Yeah, the leaked pics that are no longer allowed on this site.

Brian Braddock
08-17-2007, 12:00 PM
Therye talking of leaked pics that have been taken down at the request of WB.

Dammit - I never got to see 'em.

Pho3nix
08-17-2007, 12:07 PM
I think the new suit looks pretty weird, I guess I like the old one better.

Something more conservative would be nicer.

Batman>all
08-17-2007, 12:50 PM
The more I look at the Batman Begins suit the more I dislike and find flaws in it.

I think its because of how puffy and fat he looks and than you see a skinny sleek Batman with the new suit. The side by side comparisons do a lot for me.

nameless_hero
08-17-2007, 12:51 PM
Yeah, the leaked pics that are no longer allowed on this site.

Found them through Google...
Pants look rediculous... bat's too small...

But the Batman beating on the Joker in the intergation room looked sweet.

I defionately prefer the Begins suit over TDK

Brian Braddock
08-17-2007, 12:57 PM
I'm definately a fan of the more streamlined cowl but the rest of the suit is gonna take some getting used to (I have a feeling that any doubts will be erased the 1st time I see it in motion though - I get the impression that this suit offers a helluva lot more manouverability than the previous one).

It's certainly different from the BB suit and, yes, perhaps a bit 'over-elaborate' in places but i'm certainly willing to give it a chance.

Also, Bale looks really trim (and I mean that as a comliment - some folk say that as a complaint) and his face (which at times seemed a bit 'fuller' than usual in the 1st film due to his condensed weight gain period) seems more comfortable with the new cowl that the BB cowl.

Compi716
08-17-2007, 01:14 PM
Some people are complaining that Bale looks too thin. They like the HUGE version from BB.

I think he looks great. He looks ATHLETIC. He reminds me of the Neal Adams Batman. He looks like he can leap from rooftop to rooftop. And remember: somebody who is really strong does not necessarily have bulging muscles.

bunk
08-17-2007, 01:19 PM
The mouth opening for the new cowl still looks too small.

Juanigi
08-17-2007, 01:20 PM
Some people are complaining that Bale looks too thin. They like the HUGE version from BB.

I think he looks great. He looks ATHLETIC. He reminds me of the Neal Adams Batman. He looks like he can leap from rooftop to rooftop. And remember: somebody who is really strong does not necessarily have bulging muscles.the best depiction

Brian Braddock
08-17-2007, 01:23 PM
Some people are complaining that Bale looks too thin. They like the HUGE version from BB.

I think he looks great. He looks ATHLETIC. He reminds me of the Neal Adams Batman. He looks like he can leap from rooftop to rooftop. And remember: somebody who is really strong does not necessarily have bulging muscles.


Couldnt agree more - in fact I said something almost exactly to what you just said only the other day on the 'Who would you cast as Captain America' thread.........

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=267529&page=9


Bale looks like a guy who's trained his ass off and is really physically fit - not just a guy who's been lifting weights.

moguy
08-17-2007, 01:28 PM
Some people are complaining that Bale looks too thin. They like the HUGE version from BB.

I think he looks great. He looks ATHLETIC. He reminds me of the Neal Adams Batman. He looks like he can leap from rooftop to rooftop. And remember: somebody who is really strong does not necessarily have bulging muscles.

I don't think very many people think that Bale was too "huge" in the first film. Batman is supposed to be a powerful guy, and power requires muscle. True, strength isn't directly proportional to size (Weightlifters vs bodybuilders), but it is still fairly proprortional.

I'm sure Bale's physique is still fine, although he does look a little leaner in the leaked pics (the tshirt one). Neverheless, he's still by far, the most muscled Batman in all the live action films.

In contrast, the way Tobey Maquire let himself go from the first spiderman movie to the second and third was far more dramatic. I guess he figured once he had the role being in shape didn't matter.

DaRkVeNgeanCe
08-17-2007, 01:30 PM
Bale looks alot smaller in and out of the suit in these pics, than he did in Begins.

Kleric
08-17-2007, 01:37 PM
Couldnt agree more - in fact I said something almost exactly to what you just said only the other day on the 'Who would you cast as Captain America' thread.........

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=267529&page=9


Bale looks like a guy who's trained his ass off and is really physically fit - not just a guy who's been lifting weights.

It's true; many body builders are not that strong. There are many techniques to make your body look good. Heck in a competition many body builders collapse due to dehydratation / weakness as they starve themes self’s to look cut.

A better visual is a martial artist or an ultimate fighter. Hell, look at Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris would you consider him too small to be effective?

Batman>all
08-17-2007, 01:46 PM
reminds me of the Batman Beyond suit where you see the suit in the elevator shaft without a cape

Brian Braddock
08-17-2007, 02:04 PM
It's true; many body builders are not that strong. There are many techniques to make your body look good. Heck in a competition many body builders collapse due to dehydratation weakness as they starve themes self’s to look cut.

A better visual is a martial artist or an ultimate fighter. Hell, look at Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris would you consider him too small to be effective?


It's kinda like the doorman analogy - sure, you have the huge security guys - they go the gym, use steroids, build muscle, look massive and threatening and all that;

But then you see a smaller, wiry, almost normal looking security guy with them, looking a bit out of place next to these bohemoths.

That's the guy to steer clear of if it all went off - because he's obviously not there as a visual deterrant - he's there for a reason.

He's there because he can actually whip some ass.

Compi716
08-17-2007, 02:09 PM
It's kinda like the doorman analogy - sure, you have the huge security guys - they go the gym, use steroids, build muscle, look massive and threatening and all that;

But then you see a smaller, wiry, almost normal looking security guy with them, looking a bit out of place next to these bohemoths.

That's the guy to steer clear of if it all went off - because he's obviously not there as a visual deterrant - he's there for a reason.

He's there because he can actually whip some ass.
I don't think I've ever seen a doorman like that. What building are you hanging out in?!
:p

Brian Braddock
08-17-2007, 02:18 PM
Some real spit and sawdust places where you get a glass in the face if you so much as look at someone even a little bit wrong.

BatScot
08-17-2007, 02:22 PM
Of course not.

..but if you changed the color of the new suit to grey, kept the black bat symbol and matched the cowl with the cape you'd have a semi close interpretation of the traditional costume.Well said.

why Nolan didn't do that is beyond me. I guess in his "realistic" world, it's ALL about functionality.Except when it suits him not to be, like a tank that can be driven across roof tops and para-dives that don't rip the arms off the guy trying to hold onto the cape... certainly these things are no less a conceit than a ‘greyish’ suit.

The thing is, a realistic approach—as military studies have proven—actually SUPPORTS a gray suit. In other words, it does not follow from the “realistic argument” that a gray suit cannot or should not be used for night camo. In fact, gray is sometimes preferable in certain conditions, especially in an urban environment. Which is to say: There is nothing unrealistic about Batman wearing a gray suit. Now this does not mean that black is less realistic or that gray is somehow more realistic, it simply means that there is no practical reason that would negate the use of gray. But if you like black better, that’s fine. If you think black works, you’re correct. If you do no like gray, well you are entitled to you’re opinion. But if you think gray is not a “realistic” color for Batman, then you are mistaken.

So not only is a “semi close interpretation of the traditional costume” feasible, a ‘traditional’ approach is also realistic. Period.

Thot
08-17-2007, 02:26 PM
I've enjoyed just about every incarnation of the Bat-suit on film. The only really bad one was the Clooney "ice-suit" in B&R. My favorite suit, by a good margin, is still the panther suit in BF. I prefer simpler lines, molded muscularity, and a freaking bat-symbol you can actually see! I do dig the new Dark Knight suit, especially the cowl. I can enjoy Batman's duds in many incarnations, e.g. industrial or more organic in appearance.

Mr. Socko
08-17-2007, 02:27 PM
I'm of the belief that having a partially grey suit does not require an in-depth explanation of the realistic ramifications.

Anyway, the new suit looks like he'll be able to move a lot better and offer alot more mobility.

ROBOCOP CPU001
08-17-2007, 02:30 PM
Yeah, i like it, now i have seen better shots of it.

:)

Kleric
08-17-2007, 02:33 PM
Well said.

Except when it suits him not to be, like a tank that can be driven across roof tops and para-dives that don't rip the arms off the guy trying to hold onto the cape... certainly these things are no less a conceit than a ‘greyish’ suit.

The thing is, a realistic approach—as military studies have proven—actually SUPPORTS a gray suit. In other words, it does not follow from the “realistic argument” that a gray suit cannot or should not be used for night camo. In fact, gray is sometimes preferable in certain conditions, especially in an urban environment. Which is to say: There is nothing unrealistic about Batman wearing a gray suit. Now this does not mean that black is less realistic or that gray is somehow more realistic, it simply means that there is no practical reason that would negate the use of gray. But if you like black better, that’s fine. If you think black works, you’re correct. If you do no like gray, well you are entitled to you’re opinion. But if you think gray is not a “realistic” color for Batman, then you are mistaken.

So not only is a “semi close interpretation of the traditional costume” feasible, a ‘traditional’ approach is also realistic. Period.

Agreed. With liquid Armor being a scientific reality, and Black and Grey being proven to be superior for urban camouflage, I really don’t see why we could not have a more traditional Bat suit.

I can’t help but wonder if the costume department wanted to be creative and different. To put their own stamp on the suit as it were. I’m Just guessing. The TDK suit looks cool, it’s just not definitive. I can’t help but feel it was a wasted opportunity.

Mr. Socko
08-17-2007, 02:37 PM
Reminds me of the ugly sonar suit from Forever but darker

http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/batcave/pics/suit_batman_sonar.jpg

orestes
08-17-2007, 02:42 PM
Yeah, i like it, now i have seen better shots of it.

:)

Agreed.

I think the suit just looks weird in those particular pictures we were given.

The official picture of Batman standing on the cop car, the suit looks quite good.

orestes
08-17-2007, 02:44 PM
Reminds me of the ugly sonar suit from Forever but darker

http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/batcave/pics/suit_batman_sonar.jpg

lol

First thing I thought of when I saw the new suit.

It even looks like Kilmer in that picture of Bale in the new suit.

Kaizer
08-17-2007, 03:12 PM
probably been mentioned, but; are those clasps I see in the new pictures?

Watson
08-17-2007, 03:14 PM
The first thing I thought of when I saw it was "Hey, hockey padding!"

I wanna see it in action, but so far I'm worried...he still seems awkward, and very bulky.

DeaDheaD
08-17-2007, 03:16 PM
Reminds me of the ugly sonar suit from Forever but darker

http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/batcave/pics/suit_batman_sonar.jpg
Favorite suit of the Schumacher era :ninja:

Goran
08-17-2007, 03:16 PM
I don't understand why they made that ugly hollow separating the bat-symbol on his chest in two parts...