Batsuit Discussion Thread

[rohitiyer]

Reminds me of the ugly sonar suit from Forever but darker

http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/batcave/pics/suit_batman_sonar.jpg

I disagree. I think the Sonar Suit is very different from this:

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/DKbatsuit.jpg

In fact, I don't really see a problem with the basic look of the Sonar Suit. It probably doesn't move well and it does have similar segments, but I still kinda like it.

[Mr. Socko]

probably been mentioned, but; are those clasps I see in the new pictures?

He does have clasps in the new pictures of the Begins suit, which will be used in the beginning of this film. In the brand new suit, the clasps are, fortunately, gone.

I don't understand why they made that ugly hollow separating the bat-symbol on his chest in two parts...

You mean like how it looks like a dent in between the chest area? If so I agree.

I disagree. I think the Sonar Suit is very different from this:


In fact, I don't really see a problem with the basic look of the Sonar Suit. It probably doesn't move well and it does have similar segments, but I still kinda like it.


It is indeed different, but it's the closest from the previous ones. But the pic that really reminds me of it is the one of Bale crouched down, holding the post with his hand. What I mostly mean is how crowded it looks, the lining, the dents, several armored sections, so much going on. The "state of the art" suit if you will. I prefer a more, for lack of a better word, simplistic look.

[Goran]

You mean like how it looks like a dent in between the chest area? If so I agree.

Yeah exactly. That's how it looks like. i like the symbol on BB-suit better... even if it wasn't THE bat-symbol.

[Mr. Socko]

Yeah exactly. That's how it looks like. i like the symbol on BB-suit better... even if it wasn't THE bat-symbol.


The Begins suit used the more traditional symbol instead of the "Begins" symbol that was on the cover and on the bat-stars and all. I actually like former symbol a bit more.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/bigshow321/Batman/5zgv1g.jpg

[rohitiyer]

QUICK RECAP!

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[wd golf39]

the new suit reminds me of the freeze suit from batman and robin but its darker..

does anyone agree?

[rohitiyer]

http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/batcave/pics/suit_freeze.jpghttp://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/batcave/pics/suit_batman_bb.jpghttp://www.beyondhollywood.com/stillsx/2007/06/batman-dark-knight-new-suit-medium.jpg

I would've posted the newer TDK pics. But I'm scared... Very scared! :woot:

[orestes]

http://www.spacejunk.org/spacejunk/wp-content/images/humour/batman&robin_pics012.jpg

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[orestes]

http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/batcave/pics/suit_freeze.jpg

oh jesus

[rohitiyer]

the new suit reminds me of the freeze suit from batman and robin but its darker..

does anyone agree?

Yeah... in the sense that even the freeze suit seems to have baggy legs. But looking at the comparison photos now...

...I just kinda feel that the BB suit looks way to dull. The other suits at least have some kinda high-light to bring in contrast. But the Begins suit is just this lack-lustre matte-finish rubber tyre kinda thing.

From what I've seen of the new TDK pics, that's at least been fixed.

[wd golf39]

damn rubber nipples i couldnt take clooney serious with those...i have respect for bale

[orestes]

http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/batcave/pics/suit_freeze.jpg

In the words of Schumacher: FAB-U-LOUS!

[BatScot]

Reminds me of the ugly sonar suit from Forever but darker

http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/batcave/pics/suit_batman_sonar.jpgI have always been of the belief that the Sonar suit has much in common with the Begins suit, and I still believe that to be the case.

Whatever else one may think of the TDK suit, it appears to be the most dissimilar from any of the previous suits.

[rohitiyer]

I have always been of the belief that the Sonar suit has much in common with the Begins suit, and I still believe that to be the case.

Whatever else one may think of the TDK suit, it appears to be the most dissimilar from any of the previous suits.

You've got a point there:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/bigshow321/Batman/5zgv1g.jpg

[DSET]

most of the people who saw the footage in chicago
said the suit looked very similar to the old one
thus there is probably more lighting effects

Im guessing we are noticing the baggyness now because these are not polished shots from the film, as in the camera's they are using to shoot the movie.

these are still photos taken with a digital or flash camera.

[rohitiyer]

More pics for comparison:

http://www.batmanunmasked.com/albums/userpics/10001/BatmanGC5.jpghttp://www.batmanunmasked.com/albums/userpics/10001/batstume.jpghttp://www.batmanunmasked.com/albums/userpics/10001/bat_clooney.jpg
http://www.batmanunmasked.com/albums/userpics/10001/BR_Batman_Madison.jpghttp://www.batmanunmasked.com/albums/userpics/10001/BR_Batman.jpghttp://www.batmanunmasked.com/albums/userpics/10001/Clooney_wings.jpg

[rohitiyer]

http://www.batmanunmasked.com/albums/userpics/10001/FilmoBatmanForever_L14.jpghttp://www.batmanunmasked.com/albums/userpics/10001/filmbat3.jpg

[slave2catwoman]

Batman does not have fake rubber muscles. No matter what these Hollywood sissies may think.

[rohitiyer]

It'll be hard to judge the TDK pics until we get some really frontal pics like above.

[Conebone69]

Im not really diggin the new suit in the new pics

[Spade]

Flame me, but I thought the sonar suit wasn't that bad. If it weren't for the lame riddle they had Val spouting, it would have been less marred by being in Forever.

[nightwing07]

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[lordofthenerds]

Flame me, but I thought the sonar suit wasn't that bad. If it weren't for the lame riddle they had Val spouting, it would have been less marred by being in Forever.
The sonar suit actually would've looked fine if it had been the right color.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

For the people who said Bale looks "athletic", that's not exactly the way we've seen him in comic books, is it? He should be big, not Arnold Schwarzeneggar big, but big like he was in BB. Now he looks more like Michael Keaton, and that's bad. As I said, his head looks too big in comparison with the rest of his body. He should look like he can pick a guy up, and jump from rooftop to rooftop. Right now, he just looks like the latter.

There can (and was) a middle ground. So why change a good thing?

[lujho]

I don't really like the new suit at all. If the script and direction and acting are good, it won't spoil the movie for me in any way, and of course I will save my final judgement until I see it in action on the screen, but it really is to me a very ugly looking, awkward suit....it conveys none of the romanticisim of the character. To be honest, I don't know how this nw suit even got past the sketch design stage. I dread to think how ugly most of the Dark Knight Batman action figures are going to be.

Yes! Romanticism. Perfect word. That's exacatly what this version of Batman is lacking (including in Begins), and the costume design is part of that.

[lujho]

The mouth opening for the new cowl still looks too small.

It's actually smaller than the old one!

But I think it does look better - it's squarer, and it's wider at the top than it the bottom rather than the other way around. Not perfect but oh well.

Still doesn't capture that beak-like quality that the all the animated Batman designs (IMO the coolest) and most modern comics versions have.

[shamskillz]

Well I will say this...I totally agree with the head comment. Its like with the new neck section that they are using, it make his helmet/cowl look huge. I am not sure how cool it will look with the cape wrapped around it like in the train scene in BB.

Also, I can understand the armour, but I think there is too much going on there for batman to look menacing enough. I loved the simplicity of the BB suit.

And come on!....what happened to the Large curved Bat symbol on the chest...that was my favorite part on the BB suit. That true Batman to me.

At least the Joker looks crazy!

[Conebone69]

Do you guys think the new suit in the pics we got yesterday was just a stunt suit cuz personally I thought it looked really cheesy and just not good looking. The pic of the suit we got a long time ago looked way better then that

[ChicageauxTiger]

New Suit ... meh. :dry:

[ChicageauxTiger]

It looks too ... I don't know, armor-ish or High tech-ish.
Personally, I liked the simpler look of the BB suit.

But hey, Opinions are like Buttholes ... everyone's got one. ;)

[Conebone69]

TDK suit is a drastic improvement on the BB suit imho.
Was that sarcasm or not

[Conebone69]

I hope the new suit looks like the one old pic we got and not these new pics

[lujho]

It's not a stunt suit, no way. That's the real thing, and frankly I can't see how it looks any different to the first pic we saw.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I don't understand the raised "band" underneath the Bat symbol going across his chest. Is that reinforced or thicker armor or something? It would make sense if the Bat symbol was bright so that villains aimed at it.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

It's not a stunt suit, no way. That's the real thing, and frankly I can't see how it looks any different to the first pic we saw.

Really? Are you serious? One is night and the other is day, literally and figuratively! The first pic, he was standing up, and we got very little detail. It was more of a detailed outline. The other pics, especially the one where he's crouching on what I presume is Gordon's porch really show the details and the weakness of the material, i.e. how "bendy" it is.

It is VERY easy to have a change of opinion when comparing the two pics.

[Silver Souper]

i am still hoping for the best for TDK but i have to say in light of the new pics- i friggen hate the new suit. it is sheer Bibleman all the way.

[lujho]

Really? Are you serious? One is night and the other is day, literally and figuratively! The first pic, he was standing up, and we got very little detail. It was more of a detailed outline. The other pics, especially the one where he's crouching on what I presume is Gordon's porch really show the details and the weakness of the material, i.e. how "bendy" it is.

It is VERY easy to have a change of opinion when comparing the two pics.

I see the exact same level of detail in the first pic as the new ones. I can't see how anyone couldn't.

I can see the ugly bends in the new pics, but not in the first pic because he obviously isn't bending anything in that one. If he's been crouching on the roof of the police car then yeah, we'd see the bending..

The suit looks identical in the old and new pics, it's clearly the same and not a "good" one and a "stunt" one.

[CaptainClown]

I don't think I'll ever be satisfied with a batsuit on film but I felt TDK is th eone that I like the most

[Conebone69]

It's not a stunt suit, no way. That's the real thing, and frankly I can't see how it looks any different to the first pic we saw.
One looks cool and the other looks like crap. And how do you know its not a stunt suit?
Really? Are you serious? One is night and the other is day, literally and figuratively! The first pic, he was standing up, and we got very little detail. It was more of a detailed outline. The other pics, especially the one where he's crouching on what I presume is Gordon's porch really show the details and the weakness of the material, i.e. how "bendy" it is.

It is VERY easy to have a change of opinion when comparing the two pics.
Yeah
i am still hoping for the best for TDK but i have to say in light of the new pics- i friggen hate the new suit. it is sheer Bibleman all the way.
I totally agree

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I see the exact same level of detail in the first pic as the new ones. I can't see how anyone couldn't.

I can see the ugly bends in the new pics, but not in the first pic because he obviously isn't bending anything in that one. If he's been crouching on the roof of the police car then yeah, we'd see the bending..

The suit looks identical in the old and new pics, it's clearly the same and not a "good" one and a "stunt" one.

Well, also his head doesn't look bobble-headedly huge in the first pic.

Also you can't see his blades, which are by the way bending as they rest on his knees in the second pic.

And of course the bends, which really bring the suit down asthetically.

It is very obvious. One pic is posed, the others don't appear to be.

[MechaOrga]

I don't understand the raised "band" underneath the Bat symbol going across his chest. Is that reinforced or thicker armor or something? It would make sense if the Bat symbol was bright so that villains aimed at it.

I think you and me think very similar.

when i first saw the new suit with that "band" i said

"awesome the emblem is HUGE!!!! ROSS style!!!!

but alas its just another "design" element"

It looks like a GiGER suit with a coll cowl really.....

[lujho]

GiGER? As in H.R.? Why the weird capitalization? Or are you referring to something else?

[superadam87]

Quick question, I don't want to search through all the pages, but...

WHY DOES THE SUIT CHANGE IN THE MOVIE???

[superadam87]

Something happens to the BB one.

Thank you very much.

[antonydelfini]

Although the pics of the new bat suit that was leaked yesterday doesn't seem so good, I believe it was the result of bad lighting. No one who saw the WW footage complained about the suit so I guess seeing it move and in darker lighting will make it a lot better.

[Dvhyzs]

Although the pics of the new bat suit that was leaked yesterday doesn't seem so good, I believe it was the result of bad lighting. No one who saw the WW footage complained about the suit so I guess seeing it move and in darker lighting will make it a lot better.
I thought it looked good with the lighting in the pics...it's all opinion though.

And i'm sure a few attendee's of the footage were unhappy with the new suit.

[Conebone69]

I dont get it. The suit looks so awesome in the old pic. But in the new pics it just looks cheesy and horrible. I really hope the suit looks like the one in the old pic. Did the suit look that bad in the WW footage?

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I dont get it. The suit looks so awesome in the old pic. But in the new pics it just looks cheesy and horrible. I really hope the suit looks like the one in the old pic. Did the suit look that bad in the WW footage?

Yeah, I am hoping those are just pre-post pics, or promo pics or some kind of reference pics. We still have a year, so who is to say Bale won't be bigger and they won't tweak and revise and improve the suit as time goes on.

It's possible they will use the leaked pics and gauge the backlash against the suit and use that to make improvements.

I think few people want a baggy, bendy, rubbery looking suit.

[cryptic name]

I dont get it. The suit looks so awesome in the old pic. But in the new pics it just looks cheesy and horrible. I really hope the suit looks like the one in the old pic. Did the suit look that bad in the WW footage?

because one was lit, and color corrected for you to see (as the movie will be), the other wasn't.

[antonydelfini]

because one was lit, and color corrected for you to see (as the movie will be), the other wasn't.

The perfect answer my friend.

[Conebone69]

Yeah, I am hoping those are just pre-post pics, or promo pics or some kind of reference pics. We still have a year, so who is to say Bale won't be bigger and they won't tweak and revise and improve the suit as time goes on.

It's possible they will use the leaked pics and gauge the backlash against the suit and use that to make improvements.

I think few people want a baggy, bendy, rubbery looking suit.
Yeah, I hope so

[The Only Woj]

Quick question, I don't want to search through all the pages, but...

WHY DOES THE SUIT CHANGE IN THE MOVIE???

mustard stain

[Conebone69]

mustard stain
Lol

[Hobodeluxe]

because one was lit, and color corrected for you to see (as the movie will be), the other wasn't.

yeah it helps to mess with the lighting and tone of the pics.
I did a little manip of the crouching on the back porch shot and it helped it a lot.

that said I still don't like the new pants,or the smaller bat symbol on the chest. it blends in too much with that dark panel it's on. the pants are too busy with all those lines in them and the baggy crotch is a terrible image.

I do like the new streamline look of the suit and the cowl/neck area.

[Bruce Banner]

I think few people want a baggy, bendy, rubbery looking suit.

When I looked at his legs in one of the leaked pics, I thought, my God, why is his left leg bulging out so much, and I can see his ...

[Brian Braddock]

When I looked at his legs in one of the leaked pics, I thought, my God, why is his left leg bulging out so much, and I can see his ...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/wangwltc.jpg ?

[Silver Souper]

Only if you're visually challenged.:whatever:

right, because Robo-bibleman-bats is SO like the comic and graphic novel incarnations of the suit :dry:

and I can't believe i'm saying this, but it even feels schumacher-esque. the neck is choked and tiny, the cowl fixed the nose triangle from begins but made a square out of his head and the motha effin shoulder pads are 80s-tastic. i'm not sure what happened to the knees either. the whole thing looks completely silly- batman doesn't have the appearance of being dark or menacing in the least.

[BatScot]

Really? Are you serious? One is night and the other is day, literally and figuratively! The first pic, he was standing up, and we got very little detail. It was more of a detailed outline. The other pics, especially the one where he's crouching on what I presume is Gordon's porch really show the details and the weakness of the material, i.e. how "bendy" it is.

It is VERY easy to have a change of opinion when comparing the two pics.It's the same suit.

[evilskillz]

I don't mind the penthouse idea. But I would like to see a batcave at some point in the movie, even if it's at the very end. I can't imagine a whole Batman movie without a bat cave. Not saying it can't work, just very different.

I think that change is a bigger change than Joker's true skin color or how good Bale's new bat suit looks.

[CaptainClown]

uh oh someones going to get buh buh buh banned

[deemar325]

Seriously the suit looks ok its not a bad look. Its a vast improvement over any other Batsuit in my opinion plus it may look even better in motion.

[Mister J]

the suit at wayne's penthouse

Dude, you're going to need to delete that pic. The mods have been cracking down on the leaked pics.

[MechaOrga]

Damn Bale got sooo thin compared to the first film IMO.

We are getting a pseudo cave under wayne penthouse.

These films are all about Batman slowly becoming the batman we all know and love.

even his villians are starting out and gradually becoming what we know(if the joker really bleached twist is true)

I think we can bet that he'll have a new ride, a new suit, and a brand spanking new cave under the newly remodeled wayne mansion by the third movie.

[not_a_victim]

In looking at the leaked pics, I have some questions. I am not trying to say that I know ANYTHING about costume design, but I do have some layman questions...
In the pic of Bats kneeling on what may be Gordon's porch, you can see th material bunching/creasing/folding behind his left knee. Looking at it, it appears that there is actually an EXTRA layer of material at the bend of the knee. Why was extra material put there? It would only bunch up anytime the knee is bent. It really doesn't make any sense. Is this an example of style over substance from a prop design point? Does that not contradict Nolans (in)famous need for realism?
I appears that the production of the costume prop will take a lot of design points from the fact that Bats will drive the "Batpod" or whatever they are going to be calling the motorcycle. It looks like the design of the new suit takes inspiration from the armored suits that motorcycle racers wear. The shoulderpads, bicep pads, chestplate and even the mask/helmet all seem to be inspired by motorcycle gear. I can see the idea. Some of those guys that do the motocross jumps have to have the mobility of a gymnast, but with the protection that their suits will provide.With that in mind, why do the leaked pics make it look as if Bale is still having a hard time moving in a natural way?
I am not complaining, or trashing, or saying I know better than the prop designers. Again, just asking some questions.:yay:

[Spade]

Is this an example of style over substance from a prop design point? Does that not contradict Nolans (in)famous need for realism?


Nolan's looking for heightened realism. What the BB fans and haters rave on about is a different extremity. Since those aren't cleaned up/ final shots, I'm not sure if that's intended. But even if it is, I can live with it. Nothing is perfect in every single shot.

[jimmy]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/wangwltc.jpg ?

Hey, he's gotta protect the Bat-Podz.

[Spade]

More like the Bat-pellets. :o

[cryptic name]

In looking at the leaked pics, I have some questions. I am not trying to say that I know ANYTHING about costume design, but I do have some layman questions...
In the pic of Bats kneeling on what may be Gordon's porch, you can see th material bunching/creasing/folding behind his left knee. Looking at it, it appears that there is actually an EXTRA layer of material at the bend of the knee. Why was extra material put there? It would only bunch up anytime the knee is bent. It really doesn't make any sense. Is this an example of style over substance from a prop design point? Does that not contradict Nolans (in)famous need for realism?
I appears that the production of the costume prop will take a lot of design points from the fact that Bats will drive the "Batpod" or whatever they are going to be calling the motorcycle. It looks like the design of the new suit takes inspiration from the armored suits that motorcycle racers wear. The shoulderpads, bicep pads, chestplate and even the mask/helmet all seem to be inspired by motorcycle gear. I can see the idea. Some of those guys that do the motocross jumps have to have the mobility of a gymnast, but with the protection that their suits will provide.With that in mind, why do the leaked pics make it look as if Bale is still having a hard time moving in a natural way? I am not complaining, or trashing, or saying I know better than the prop designers. Again, just asking some questions.:yay:

how the hell can you tell that? i'm not bashing you but...there are two pictures of him crouching, and two of him just standing there behind the joker after having done something. which one of those makes it look like he's moving awkwardly?

[Dark Sentinel]

can someone PM me the pics please? i cant find them online anymore. thanks

[not_a_victim]

how the hell can you tell that? i'm not bashing you but...there are two pictures of him crouching, and two of him just standing there behind the joker after having done something. which one of those makes it look like he's moving awkwardly?

1. Calm down, I said it APPEARS that way, and it's a question I have, I am not claiming it as fact.
In the pic of what appears to be Bats throwin' Joker around in the interrogation room, Bats has an odd stance. In the pic of him on the guardrail of Gordon's porch, it appears as if the chest plate of the costume is forcing him to keep his spine straight, in an unnatural "upright" posture. In the pic where he is standing behind a seated Joker, it appears he has to turn his entire body as one piece, instead of being able to turn his torso seperately from his hips.
Again, just questions from observations, I am not claiming any of the above are accurate.
BTW, we all have griped about Bats not being able to turn his head in the movies, but he has never been able to turn his torso more than a few degrees, either.
EDIT:
This is why although I liked the '89 costume and the BB costume, I soooo much just want to see a simple, two piece fabric over thin Kevlar suit.

[dark_b]

Damn Bale got sooo thin compared to the first film IMO.

We are getting a pseudo cave under wayne penthouse.

These films are all about Batman slowly becoming the batman we all know and love.

even his villians are starting out and gradually becoming what we know(if the joker really bleached twist is true)

I think we can bet that he'll have a new ride, a new suit, and a brand spanking new cave under the newly remodeled wayne mansion by the third movie.you should watch BB again. he is nto a lot bigger . he is bigger but not a lot.

[not_a_victim]

I also understand the whole concept that the pics are not "finalized", and that tone and color rendering will affect what we see, but is that not a cop out for a poorly made prop?
It's like we are saying, "It's ok the costume looks like crap, as it will look different under final rendering." I find that to be a poor excuse for a prop on a major motion picture.
Let me put it this way, if I was in charge of the production end of the props, and the guy who made the costume showed it to me and said, "It's ok, it will look great in the dark.", I'd send him back to work on it again, with the understanding that the prop will look as good in the full light as it did in final rendering.
If you look at the pic of the suit when it is in it's case in the Batcave or whatever, it looks all rigid, and that would be why it was made in sections, so that each section itself could be rigid, with flexible areas between the rigid sections, ala armor teh knights used to wear. In the porch pic, it looks like the whole thing is flexible.
Again, I am not bashing as much as I am just trying to wrap my head around this new costume. I liked it at first, as I thoght it was going to eliminate the puffiness of the BB suit, but looks more and more like it hasn't.
Bale looses about 30 pounds, the suit gets streamlined, and it is still puffy and bunches.
I dunno...

[Gianakin_]

Well, if you see the making of 300, the props were like out of a flea market. But in the final product it works.
I doubt Nolan saw the dailies in either BB or in TDK and said "They're crap, but I'll save them in post". They know what they're doing.

[not_a_victim]

can someone PM me the pics please? i cant find them online anymore. thanks

Go to AICN, there are plenty of links to the pics in the talkback section discussing this issue.

[not_a_victim]

Well, if you see the making of 300, the props were like out of a flea market. But in the final product it works.
I doubt Nolan saw the dailies in either BB or in TDK and said "They're crap, but I'll save them in post". They know what they're doing.

I realize that. Again, I don't doubt their abilities, and I never claimed to have more skills than they do, It's just some questions I have that no one seems to actually be able to answer.
It's like a quest for knowledge and enlightenment...:whatever:

[Gianakin_]

I actually didn't see the edit you made.
Anyway, I believe you noticed that I nowhere claimed you said you had more skills than they do. Just saying that it happens and it happened with a movie that is widely considered a good one and its props were... well, crappy would be an understatement.
And I don't believe you'll get a definite answer for this particular question. The one I can provide is: They test all that material and see if it works, they keep it and photograph and shoot it under specific circumstances. The costume will work in an angle, but not in the wide one that can be seen in the photo.

[Mr. Socko]

The suit looks less "Batman" to me and more mechanical and state of the art. I also don't like that the cowl is a separate piece from the neck that attaches to the rest of the body. I know it was done for more mobility but it doesn't look right nor do I even like the idea of it. Then there's the colors, I don't know how to describe it but it doesn't look completely black. Compare the color of the new suit to the color of the Begins suit and the cape. This one seems to have a navy blue tint to me.

But who knows, once I see it on screen and in action, I may love it.

[dark_b]

The suit looks less "Batman" to me and more mechanical and state of the art. I also don't like that the cowl is a separate piece from the neck that attaches to the rest of the body. I know it was done for more mobility but it doesn't look right nor do I even like the idea of it. Then there's the colors, I don't know how to describe it but it doesn't look completely black. Compare the color of the new suit to the color of the Begins suit and the cape. This one seems to have a navy blue tint to me.

But who knows, once I see it on screen and in action, I may love it.you are talking about the leaked pic at daytime?

because in other pics itlooks black.

plus the reason why it looks sometimes grey is because of the shiny material.

[Mr. Socko]

Yeah, the pic of him crouched on the post.

[not_a_victim]

I actually didn't see the edit you made.
Anyway, I believe you noticed that I nowhere claimed you said you had more skills than they do. Just saying that it happens and it happened with a movie that is widely considered a good one and its props were... well, crappy would be an understatement.
And I don't believe you'll get a definite answer for this particular question. The one I can provide is: They test all that material and see if it works, they keep it and photograph and shoot it under specific circumstances. The costume will work in an angle, but not in the wide one that can be seen in the photo.

No, no. I wasn't saying that you said I said I had more skills (whew, that was tough to type, let alone say) I just didn't want anyone to think I was some kind of smug know-it-all sitting back and whining or fussing. I just have genuine questions.
Also, if everyone will remember, we saw not too long ago a pic of a man standing on the rail that bats is squatting on in the leaked pics. Everyone commented on how crappy the suit looked, and that it HAD to have been a stunt suit, and they were just using him and it for blocking the shot. Lo and behold, we have Bale in that situation, and in the same daylight conditions.
Like the whole extra material behind the knee.. Why in the world when they were testing the costume did someone not notice the bunching and ask why that extra material was there; in a place that is hardly going to be seen because of the cape?
EDIT: The whole concept of "No matter what is wrong, we will clean it up in post production." is getting so out of control, it's no wonder that a movie, even one with limited special effects, takes 3-4 months for primary filming, and a year for post production.
If I worked in post production and knew I was gonna be responsible for cleaning up all the crap work that props was making, I'd be mad as hell.

[Penismightier]

It looks off because the lighting and filters and all sorts of post-production tricks haven't been done yet. As is, it looks like some guy in a good Halloween costume about to drop a deuce on someone's porch.

[Agentsands77]

Yeah, the pic of him crouched on the post.
That's the one pic of the costume I don't like. I like the others okay.

[Gianakin_]

I still think that this was a stuntman. The upper part of the suit looks different between those 2 photos, in my recollection.
And, I don't think that at any point did you come off as a smug.

[not_a_victim]

I still think that this was a stuntman. The upper part of the suit looks different between those 2 photos, in my recollection.
And, I don't think that at any point did you come off as a smug.

Kewl, thanks.
You think the crouched pic is a stuntman, and therefor possibly a stunt suit?
I always hate it when I post the last post of a page. I'm always afraid the person I am discussing things with will not see it when the new page is started.

[superkong 500]

That's the one pic of the costume I don't like. I like the others okay.

I thought that if there was one pic people would like it would be that one with bats crouching on the porch. The only thing off there is the rubbery bendy layers under his legs but it looks sleek to me. Heck in the other pics the legs look kinda baggy which is what really worries me a bit.

[not_a_victim]

I still think that this was a stuntman. The upper part of the suit looks different between those 2 photos, in my recollection.
And, I don't think that at any point did you come off as a smug.

Kewl, thanks.
You think the crouched pic is a stuntman, and therefor possibly a stunt suit?
I always hate it when I post the last post of a page. I'm always afraid the person I am discussing things with will not see it when the new page is started.

[Gianakin_]

Kewl, thanks.
You think the crouched pic is a stuntman, and therefor possibly a stunt suit?
I always hate it when I post the last post of a page. I'm always afraid the person I am discussing things with will not see it when the new page is started.

No, the recent leaked pic is Bale. I'm talking about the old couple of spypics that showed a guy in a suit. I think those were the stunt suits. The new one is the "hero suit".

[dark_b]

Yeah, the pic of him crouched on the post.they are using a blue light in that scene :dry:

[dark_b]

Kewl, thanks.
You think the crouched pic is a stuntman, and therefor possibly a stunt suit?
I always hate it when I post the last post of a page. I'm always afraid the person I am discussing things with will not see it when the new page is started.it was a stunt suit IMO on the phone pic.

thsi is bale IMO in the leaked pic

[not_a_victim]

it was a stunt suit IMO on the phone pic.

thsi is bale IMO in the leaked pic

Phone pic? You mean the guy standing on the railing?

[moguy]

it was a stunt suit IMO on the phone pic.

thsi is bale IMO in the leaked pic

That is correct. They were definately not the same suit. Anyone with access to both pictures can easily confirm this.

There are multiple variations on the Bat suit, for multiple shots. A long shot with a lot of motion would use a suit optimized for that motion (lighter, less rigid at the expense of lost detail).

Hell, even Christopher Reeve's Superman suit was made in multiple for different shots. (reinforced areas, wires in cape for flight scenes, etc..)

[superkong 500]

That is correct. They were definately not the same suit. Anyone with access to both pictures can easily confirm this.

There are multiple variations on the Bat suit, for multiple shots. A long shot with a lot of motion would use a suit optimized for that motion (lighter, less rigid at the expense of lost detail).

Hell, even Christopher Reeve's Superman suit was made in multiple for different shots. (reinforced areas, wires in cape for flight scenes, etc..)

You're right on the superman suit thing and that is done for lots of movies. However I don't agree in the "at the expense of lost of detail thing" simply because even if the phone pic is a stunt suit it still has the same amount of detail as the "hero" suit you just simply don't see it because its a wide shot plus its a crappy phone pic. But if you were to see a close-up of the stunt suit you would see the same details in the suit as you would on a regular suit used for hero shots.

Most of the difference is in the material of the suit which would be a more flexible material to allow the stunt or the actor to move and perform freely in a fight or stunt.That's why the stunt suit would look rubbery and what not and the regular suit would look rigid. But apart from that it has the same look. Also in the stunt suit you won't notice the same details(unless you're really close) cause the softer more flexible material would distort some of those details that appear so clear in a more rigid version of the suit if you know what I mean. Also depends on which version of the suit because some will have a longer cape for fights other would have detachable or softer areas for certain things.

Also have in mind that the pic of the suit in the storage in bruce's penthouse is most likely a hero suit completely rigid to give that hard armor appearence and the details are far more noticable because its like a medium shot. The other pics of bats in the int.room are wide shots plus the suit there is a stunt suit(plus is a wide shot thus making it harder to see specific details)

[Silver Knight]

Can someone confirm for me there is no gray at all.

Thank you.

[deathfromabove]

Can someone confirm for me there is no gray at all.

Thank you.


it looks black and grey to me:whatever:

[superkong 500]

Can someone confirm for me there is no gray at all.

Thank you.
Did you wanted gray in the suit or not?

[superkong 500]

It all depends on lighting.
yep there's some grayish in the leaked pics more so on the one where J is on the floor. But that's because of the light I think. The begins suit also looked kinda grayish in some pics but in the movie it looked black all of the time so i hope the same happens with this one.

[moguy]

You're right on the superman suit thing and that is done for lots of movies. However I don't agree in the "at the expense of lost of detail thing" simply because even if the phone pic is a stunt suit it still has the same amount of detail as the "hero" suit you just simply don't see it because its a wide shot plus its a crappy phone pic. But if you were to see a close-up of the stunt suit you would see the same details in the suit as you would on a regular suit used for hero shots.

Most of the difference is in the material of the suit which would be a more flexible material to allow the stunt or the actor to move and perform freely in a fight or stunt.That's why the stunt suit would look rubbery and what not and the regular suit would look rigid. But apart from that it has the same look. Also in the stunt suit you won't notice the same details(unless you're really close) cause the softer more flexible material would distort some of those details that appear so clear in a more rigid version of the suit if you know what I mean. Also depends on which version of the suit because some will have a longer cape for fights other would have detachable or softer areas for certain things.

Also have in mind that the pic of the suit in the storage in bruce's penthouse is most likely a hero suit completely rigid to give that hard armor appearence and the details are far more noticable because its like a medium shot. The other pics of bats in the int.room are wide shots plus the suit there is a stunt suit(plus is a wide shot thus making it harder to see specific details)


You're right. By detail I meant more of the tiny nooks and crannies type detail that would only show in very tight shots.

Your description is completely correct.

It's good to see informed posts on these boards. That's why I keep coming back. :)

[Bishop]

i don't like the new emblem on batman's costume, it's a bit crap tbh
the rest is pretty sweet

[Bishop]

also, the batsuit looks grey in parts

[CaptainClown]

its really tiny

[hame4479]

No, the recent leaked pic is Bale. I'm talking about the old couple of spypics that showed a guy in a suit. I think those were the stunt suits. The new one is the "hero suit".
It was definately a stunt suit. That guy looked quite tubby. and not nearly as sleek as in the new pics.
.

[hame4479]

i don't like the new emblem on batman's costume, it's a bit crap tbh
the rest is pretty sweet

Ya I dont know why they broke it in the center, and honestly it could have been just a tad bit bigger.

[gwynplaine]

It doesn't look enough like a bat, the suit should be hairy with a snout, Nolan's good old realism in action.

[hame4479]

Actually just noticed something, if you look at the official released pic of batman on top of the cop car the symbol appears not to actually pop out in the center and doesnt look broken in half like in the new pics. Can anybody post that pic to show what I mean

[Bishop]

Actually just noticed something, if you look at the official released pic of batman on top of the cop car the symbol appears not to actually pop out in the center and doesnt look broken in half like in the new pics. Can anybody post that pic to show what I mean


hahaha, nice try, you're not having anyone sectioned to the banned zone today!

:p

[hame4479]

No i mean the official released pic. the one of him on the cop car.

[Bishop]

i just checked the pic

it's the old suit

[Kleric]

Actually just noticed something, if you look at the official released pic of batman on top of the cop car the symbol appears not to actually pop out in the center and doesnt look broken in half like in the new pics. Can anybody post that pic to show what I mean

Yeah I noticed that too. I think though what looks like a center bulge is actually the other side of the symbol on his chest.

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/3521/symwx7.jpg

[hame4479]

i just checked the pic

it's the old suit


No its not the one with him standing on the top of a dented cop car. The official first reveal for this new suit. Its not the old one. I pretty sure it was released in EW

[Bishop]

oh yea, i thought you meant out of the leaked ones.

the emblem looked gold there, i thought 'actually, this is pretty sweet' when i first saw it

[Alonsovich]

i just checked the pic

it's the old suit

Nope... new one...

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/thedarkknightimages/TDK_first-pic-of-batman_LARGE.jpg

[Bishop]

he appears to be wearing chainmail under the batsuit

[hame4479]

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4080/tdkbatmannewsuit3ao2.jpg

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8304/batmantdkhighres2vo6.jpg


Sorry I couldn't find a high res image to quote so I just used a random. If you look at the symbol it looks raised not indented in the middle like the new banned pics. Am I just crazy or does that symbol look like it isnt split down the middle.

[hame4479]

Nope... new one...

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/thedarkknightimages/TDK_first-pic-of-batman_LARGE.jpg

Am i ****ing crazy or is that a different symbol than the one in the new pics. it doesnt look split down the center at all it looks raised especially towards the tail, and a whole lot better imo. Maybe i am having an acid flashback and hallucinating this but or it is an optical allusion but it looks different.

[Alonsovich]

Sorry I couldn't find a high res image to quote so I just used a random. If you look at the symbol it looks raised not indented in the middle like the new banned pics. Am I just crazy or does that symbol look like it isnt split down the middle.

It does look like it... maybe it's a post-production thing? Like... edited...

[Axtech]

Sorry I couldn't find a high res image to quote so I just used a random. If you look at the symbol it looks raised not indented in the middle like the new banned pics. Am I just crazy or does that symbol look like it isnt split down the middle.

Check out Kleric's post above...

I think though what looks like a center bulge is actually the other side of the symbol on his chest.

He's right. When you look at it with that in mind, you can tell it's just the other side of the symbol showing across the gap.

[regwec]

I really can't believe that Batman will design a new suit and then modify it again. It would almost become a film about the costume.

[Alonsovich]

Check out Kleric's post above...



He's right. When you look at it with that in mind, you can tell it's just the other side of the symbol showing across the gap.

To me it looks more like the lower area of the logo...:huh:

[hame4479]

Prolly, but it still especially at the tail looks like it diamonds up to a point. I dunno its prolly the lighting.
But if you take a good look at the spy pics especially the crouching on the porch on it looks like a slightly different logo.

[Kleric]

It’s an optical illusion, meant to strike fear in the harts of criminals!

“I fear 3-d images, it’s time my enemies share in my dread”
:woot:

[Axtech]

Prolly, but it still especially at the tail looks like it diamonds up to a point. I dunno its prolly the lighting.

yeah, it's definitely the lighting. look at the very tip of the tail, it's sunken down between the two chest pieces.

[gwynplaine]

I miss the bat-nipples, just kidding, I'm just bored.

[raybia]

i am still hoping for the best for TDK but i have to say in light of the new pics- i friggen hate the new suit. it is sheer Bibleman all the way.

Long time no talk to Friend!

From what I've seen of the new pics, I like the costume better than the old one but its still missing something. Head seems way too big with a little body.

Also I would really like the cape to cloak around the body. I really don't know why this cannot be accomplished.

[hame4479]

Long time no talk to Friend!

From what I've seen of the new pics, I like the costume better than the old one but its still missing something. Head seems way too big with a little body.

Also I would really like the cape to cloak around the body. I really don't know why this cannot be accomplished.

It can with the suit they have, he did it a bunch in begins. They just never want to shoot it that way, which i dont get. Isnt that the point of having a cape made out of stealth fabric, so you can cover yourself and slip away into the darkness.

[raybia]

agreed

[Sandman138]

Anyone who's seen the new pics feel like this new suit is still bunching up awkwardly? I love that first official pic, even though it's not the direction I was hoping for, but in the interrogation room, it looks like it's bunching up at the crotch and sagging at the bust. I'm worried about how it will look under less low key lighting, since a lot of the film seems to be taking place in soft lit areas.

[superkong 500]

Anyone who's seen the new pics feel like this new suit is still bunching up awkwardly? I love that first official pic, even though it's not the direction I was hoping for, but in the interrogation room, it looks like it's bunching up at the crotch and sagging at the bust. I'm worried about how it will look under less low key lighting, since a lot of the film seems to be taking place in soft lit areas.

Yea well it seems to me that they fix something and wreck something else. First the shoulders creased and bunched in the BB suit and the neck too when he looked down or something.
now he has new shoulder armor that works as a separate piece so it doesn't form a lump but the crotch seems to sagg a bit and the leg/thigh area seems to suffer from the same crease/baggy look(even more this time it seems) it had on the begins suit.

I still would like to see a closer pic of him in a frontal angle to see how wide the torso seems and how bulgie the legs look,plus I want to see if the abdominal area bulges as the BB suit did.

[Two-Face]

Anyone saw Rescue Down in US It wasn't released in UK, I'm pissed off.

[raybia]

Anyone saw Rescue Down in US It wasn't released in UK, I'm pissed off.

I saw it. Great 3 1/2 star movie with an excellent performance by Bale and Zahn.

[Fresh Tendrils]

I saw it. Great 3 1/2 star movie with an excellent performance by Bale and Zahn.

I went to a Neko Case concert about an hour away and there was a Regal Cinema close to the pavilion and I saw that Rescue Dawn was playing. I might have to go back because I really want to see that movie.

[Watson]

Nope... new one...

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/thedarkknightimages/TDK_first-pic-of-batman_LARGE.jpg

Without getting too nitpicky...I have to say I am not feeling Batman's boots. They're giving me a orthopedic shoe lift sandal vibe.

Not that we'll really see his feet...but still...I'm not a fan.

[Batty Belfry]

Without getting too nitpicky...I have to say I am not feeling Batman's boots. They're giving me a orthopedic shoe lift sandal vibe.

Not that we'll really see his feet...but still...I'm not a fan.

You can't put a price on comfort, maybe he's gellin....like a felon....

[itsthebatman]

You can't put a price on comfort, maybe he's gellin....like a felon....
Huh? Where did that come from.
Those boots were made for walking... all over Joker.

[Batty Belfry]

Huh? Where did that come from.
Those boots were made for walking... all over Joker.

Dr. Scholl's Gel inserts-commercials we have over here.

Aye, dem some stompin boots! :woot:

BTW thanx for your kind words about me in that thread that was locked. Remind me to tickle you at a later date. :yay:

[raybia]

Seriously, they're no worst than Keatons

[GoogleMe94]

i liked keatons air jordans with the almost invisible bat symbol's on the high tops. they were stylin. these begins boots look like quaker boots.

[hame4479]

I dunno those look like pretty hardcore boots to me. Almost militiristic

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Now see thats a good pic of the new suit. Looks great, unlike the new pics. LOL@the guy who said the suit looks as good in the new pics as it does in the old pics. IT DOESN'T FO! :woot:

[AndrewGilkison]

One thing I love about the new suit is that you can't see Bale's eyes. It gives Batman that Comic Book/BTAS vibe.

[hame4479]

The thing is in the new pics you lose all of that texture especially with the mesh underneath, which is key to its visual appeal. I still don't fully understand why they legs and neck line are so goddamn busy tho.

[Naite22]

The suits in the new batman movie's (as in Begins & TDK) are the only batman suits that doesn't look gay! It's because of the armor covering the costume, not to mention the strong beasty-look of the whole thing! It looks ****ing badass!

Never did like the other suits, not even in the original 89 Batman! There's just something about the way Tim Burton wants things to look, including his version of the batman suit! It's all a bit freaky and a bit perverted!... can't really explain it, it just is.

[Conebone69]

Nope... new one...

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/thedarkknightimages/TDK_first-pic-of-batman_LARGE.jpg
The suit looks ten times better in this pic compared to the banned ones. And can someone post a pic of batmans boots in BB?

[DarkSuperman]

I still don't like it. I'm just trying to let it go.

[Conebone69]

I still don't like it. I'm just trying to let it go.
The suit in this pic or the banned pics?

[Mr. Socko]

I agree it looks much much better in that picture.

[CaptainClown]

it does the banned pics make it look alright but again I need to see it on film.

[Saint]

Seriously, they're no worst than Keatons

Are we seriously arguing about boots?

[raybia]

Are we seriously arguing about boots?

I don't think anyone was arguing about it.

[TheBatman072]

i liked keatons air jordans with the almost invisible bat symbol's on the high tops. they were stylin. these begins boots look like quaker boots.


Why am I not surprised?

[Silver Knight]

Did you wanted gray in the suit or not?
Yes I do.

[bunk]

They look kinda like Doc Martins

[gwynplaine]

The Batsuit will probably look very different once it's lit properly and it moves onscreen.

[Jacobhiggins]

I always thought it would be pretty bad ass to have the grey and black suite, but how could he deflect bullets and knifes and what not. Would be neat if they paid some homage to it somehow but the new suite looks good and i'm sure it will look awesome in the movie. The stills shots from the Begins with Bruce in the suite look ridiculous in my opinion, but in the movie it was cool. Lighting and camera angles make a HUGE difference.

[Sandman138]

The Batsuit will probably look very different once it's lit properly and it moves onscreen.

Most of those shots looked like they were taking place in a lit set.

[gwynplaine]

Most of those shots looked like they were taking place in a lit set.
Yeah but I think movement adds a lot too. Anyway if the story is captivating we won't be too focused on the batsuit, just like in period pieces where they take some liberties but you don't care so much since the story is so good and gripping.

[TheBatman072]

Most of those shots looked like they were taking place in a lit set.


Those are production stills. Meaning they were taken with a very good camera, but were NOT taken in the context of the movie.

[Mr. Socko]

Yeah but I think movement adds a lot too. Anyway if the story is captivating we won't be too focused on the batsuit, just like in period pieces where they take some liberties but you don't care so much since the story is so good and gripping.

I loved the pic of Batman at night, the leaked one. It was definitely Batman-ish...The others I didn't like although I'm sure they will add color correction in post. Though I still don't want to see Batman in the day a lot.

[Sandman138]

Those are production stills. Meaning they were taken with a very good camera, but were NOT taken in the context of the movie.

I wasn't talking about the angle, lense, or make of the camera. I was talking about the lighting set up.

[Conebone69]

And whats up with the stupid split in the middle of the bat symbol? It only shows the wings and not the head

[hame4479]

And whats up with the stupid split in the middle of the bat symbol? It only shows the wings and not the head

I dunno i was *****in about that a couple of pages back.

[dark_b]

I loved the pic of Batman at night, the leaked one. It was definitely Batman-ish...The others I didn't like although I'm sure they will add color correction in post. Though I still don't want to see Batman in the day a lot.i never want to see batman at day.
but those leaked pics showed us something really bad stuff.
for example batman at daytime( i think in the movie it will be sunset) and then batman at full lights in the penthouse with people around.

this is not the ninja that he was in BB. i need to see this in the context of the movie. but there is some fear.

[Matthew Allison]

This new bust from DC Direct has a nice cowl design that could actually work for a film version...should they ever start from scratch again.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/8430_b_full.jpg

[Wams]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/8430_b_full.jpg

Eww!!!
Looks like he has a terrible growth on his brow.
That sucks.:down

:batman:
:supes:

[Farren]

It's black, it vaguely ressembles a bat, it's fine.QFT

Honestly, the Batsuit (like a lot of superhero garb) doesn't really translate easily to film - you can't do tights anymore, but rubber/leather/etc always seem clunky and ridiculous to some extent too.

As long as it looks like a bat, and Bale can work the moves, it's the best to be hoped for IMHO.

At least there aren't nipples. :oldrazz:

[hyperhulka]

new batsuit made of titanium - at work today they were showing us - well i cant say - but it was made out of Titanium and the Speaker at the front said Titanium does not corrode when acid is thrown on it

[Kleric]

new batsuit made of titanium - at work today they were showing us - well i cant say - but it was made out of Titanium and the Speaker at the front said Titanium does not corrode when acid is thrown on it

Hmm that is true. Perhaps it is built for the specific purpose to deal with the Joker's use of acid? Interesting.

"The corrosion resistance of titanium is well documented. A stable, substantially inert oxide film provides the material with outstanding resistance to corrosion in a wide range of aggressive media. Whenever fresh titanium is exposed to the atmosphere or to any environment containing oxygen, it immediately acquires a thin tenacious film of oxide. It is the presence of this surface film that confers on the material its excellent corrosion resistance. Provided that sufficient oxygen is present, the film is self healing and re-forms almost at once if mechanically damaged."-Source: Materials Information Service – The Selection and Use of Titanium, A Design Guide

[nameless_hero]

This new bust from DC Direct has a nice cowl design that could actually work for a film version...should they ever start from scratch again.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/8430_b_full.jpg
I think I may try making a fabric mask close to this pattern. It looks good to me.

[BatScot]

Nope... new one...

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/thedarkknightimages/TDK_first-pic-of-batman_LARGE.jpgThere's something about this ^ pic of the suit that just ruins it...

http://www.comingsoon.net/images/batmannewsuit.jpg

Ah, that's better.

[Brian Braddock]

This new bust from DC Direct has a nice cowl design that could actually work for a film version...should they ever start from scratch again.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/matthewallison/8430_b_full.jpg


Reminds me of the 'Dead End' cowl

[Monster]

*orgasms*

To me it looks like the old suit, maybe I'm wrong.

[lujho]

Now see thats a good pic of the new suit. Looks great, unlike the new pics. LOL@the guy who said the suit looks as good in the new pics as it does in the old pics. IT DOESN'T FO! :woot:

I didn't say it looks as good. I said it's THE SAME SUIT. It's obviously photographed with different light and in poses that cause it to bunch up, but it's obviously the same.

Anyone could have seen by the first pic that it was going to bunch up in the legs in an ugly way whenever he bent them, just like the Begins suit did.

[lujho]

It can with the suit they have, he did it a bunch in begins. They just never want to shoot it that way, which i dont get. Isnt that the point of having a cape made out of stealth fabric, so you can cover yourself and slip away into the darkness.

No it can't. When people say the want the cape to fully cloak him, the mean FULLY cloak him. To close up completely from the neck down.

All the begins cape can do is wrap around him a bit, but not in anyway resembling the cool looking way it does in the comics and cartoons.

[lujho]

I always thought it would be pretty bad ass to have the grey and black suite, but how could he deflect bullets and knifes and what not.

Uh, by having it be armoured, just as well as any other suit? Grey material can't be armoured now?

[Brian Braddock]

I think perhaps he's assuming that the 'grey' of the grey and black suit he's referring to would be spandex (?)

[lujho]

And can someone post a pic of batmans boots in BB?

They are absolutely identical to these ones. Apart from the belt it's the only part of the costume not to change.

[lujho]

I think perhaps he's assuming that the 'grey' of the grey and black suit he's referring to would be spandex (?)

I guess, but it's a completely illogical assumption.

[Kleric]

It is a law of physics that grey material when armored will burst into flames. That’s how they did the human torch special effects. True story…

Sorry, I’ve had a lot of sugar today. Twix the only candy bar with the cookie crunch!

[Doc Holliday]

There's something about this ^ pic of the suit that just ruins it...

http://www.comingsoon.net/images/batmannewsuit.jpg

Ah, that's better.

That's slightly better, but the ****e suit still ruins it.

[Brian Braddock]

I guess, but it's a completely illogical assumption.


Your'e right - but the influence of the 60's tv show runs deep, I guess.

[Watson]

Say bye bye to the boards spidey!

[superkong 500]

You better take those pics down cause You're gonna get banned

[Mr. Socko]

First off kid, you can fit more than 2 photos into a single post!

Secondly, enjoy the ban.

[Booznian]

Omg New Pix?!??!$?@$

[spiderartist]

Say bye bye to the boards spidey!What? did you see pics before?

[Watson]

In actual Batsuit news...has anyone seen this yet?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2001550000-2007380624,00.html

Bale is Batman and throbbin’


By ALISON MALONEY
August 20, 2007


CHRISTIAN BALE’s new bat-suit has proved to be a pain in the backside – and a few other places. Filming on The Dark Knight has been hit by the British actor’s uncomfortable undies.
“As always there have been issues with a number of props and costumes, including the bat-suit,” revealed an insider on the set of the latest Batman movie.
“A number of alterations have had to be made as filming has gone on. One the costume department didn't foresee was when Christian had to film a scene strapped to a harness, the suit was chafing in a rather unfortunate way.
“The problem has now been solved, to his relief!"

[Chris Wallace]

It's worth the risk. :)
I no longer think the batsuit looks too high-tech. I still have my doubts about Joker though.

[Watson]

What? did you see pics before?

Yes, they were for a brief time on the SHH main page. But...

SuperheroHype.com has received a Cease & Desist from Warner Bros. Pictures regarding the photos that came online on August 16, 2007. If you are caught posting these, you will be removed from the boards, thank you.

We get that you made a mistake, but make sure to check the annoucements before you post. And everyone else is right...take em down if you don't want to get banned.

[Chris Wallace]

Eww!!!
Looks like he has a terrible growth on his brow.
That sucks.:down

:batman: I agree.

[Chris Wallace]

I think perhaps he's assuming that the 'grey' of the grey and black suit he's referring to would be spandex (?)

Apparently.
I don't want the grey suit. I never did. I still say all black is best.

[spiderartist]

Yes, they were for a brief time on the SHH main page. But...no i didnt see any pics in board.

[Mr. Socko]

no i didnt see any pics in board.


It does not matter if you see them posted on the board or not. Read the announcement the Admin has placed up.

http://forums.superherohype.com/announcement.php?f=304&a=33


And please, no need for "I didn't see it," I don't think Hunter is going to care about that when he presses the ban button next to your name and deletes your posts.

[gwynplaine]

Spidey you will soon find this neighborhood very unfriendly.

[Watson]

no i didnt see any pics in board.

Some men can't be reasoned with...

[spiderartist]

It does not matter if you see them posted on the board or not. Read the announcement the Admin has placed up.

http://forums.superherohype.com/announcement.php?f=304&a=33


And please, no need for "I didn't see it," I don't think Hunter is going to care about that when he presses the ban button next to your name and deletes your posts.omg im stupid im sorry and you tell me How's delete pics???

[Watson]

Just press edit on your posts and then delete the photo links.

[Doc Holliday]

Just press edit on your posts and then delete the photo links.

Too late. He's dunzo.

[Immortalfire]

Good boy, Dog Lips. :milkbone:

[Mr. Socko]

Good boy, Dog Lips. :milkbone:


Another n00b gets owned. The hype has a good justice system:oldrazz:

[Wams]

Go back to to this one Nolan....
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/nwonknu2k/BatsBegins.jpg
The new one sucks.:whatever:

[Conebone69]

Go back to to this one Nolan....
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/nwonknu2k/BatsBegins.jpg
The new one sucks.:whatever:
Couldnt agree with you more unless they made the suit look like the one in the old pic where bats is standing on a police car

[TheBatman072]

Couldnt agree with you more unless they made the suit look like the one in the old pic where bats is standing on a police car


Heh...Christ.


It's the same one under different lighting and taken by a different camera.

[Juggernaut33]

Couldnt agree with you more unless they made the suit look like the one in the old pic where bats is standing on a police car

Don't judge the new suit too quickly. We didn't even see it on film. I am sure that lighted in the proper way, it will look awesome, I trust Nolan and Wally Pfister on that one. Trust.

[hame4479]

Go back to to this one Nolan....
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/nwonknu2k/BatsBegins.jpg
The new one sucks.:whatever:

why does his head and neck look so big

[Mr. Superhero]

The new suit looks kinda' weird and cartoony. Stick with the original I say.

[Conebone69]

Heh...Christ.


It's the same one under different lighting and taken by a different camera.
I know, I mean thats what I want it to look like

[superkong 500]

Is it me or does the new suit actually looks mostly gray all the time?

I mean I know that the begins suit looked somewhat gray in some pics specially those that were softly lit, but this new suit looks far lighter in tone. Even in the pic of batman with the city background(which is pretty dark) it still looks kinda grayish :csad:

[Mr. Superhero]

Is it me or does the new Batsuit look baggy around the crotch area?

Don't ask why I was even looking there, but y'know....

[Penismightier]

Is it me or does the new suit actually looks mostly gray all the time?

I mean I know that the begins suit looked somewhat gray in some pics specially those that were softly lit, but this new suit looks far lighter in tone. Even in the pic of batman with the city background(which is pretty dark) it still looks kinda grayish :csad:

It's going to look a lot darker once all the post-production work is completed.

[Nepenthes]

the new suit will look great once it's moving - but I know what Mr.Superhero means about cartoony. He could almost pass for a power ranger

[raybia]

why does his head and neck look so big

Because it is

[Green Goblin 1964]

The new suits AWESOME! :up:

[bunk]

Is it me or does the new Batsuit look baggy around the crotch area?

Don't ask why I was even looking there, but y'know....


No, you're right it totally does. The funny part is how that crappy cell phone pic from a while back was dismissed as being a stunt suit and thus is allowed to be ill fitting. Now we get clear shots of the "real" suit and surprise, surprise, it looks the exact same.

[superkong 500]

No, you're right it totally does. The funny part is how that crappy cell phone pic from a while back was dismissed as being a stunt suit and thus is allowed to be ill fitting. Now we get clear shots of the "real" suit and surprise, surprise, it looks the exact same.

So which pants look baggier the begins suit pants or TDK suit pants?
btw this is a serious question.

[bunk]

So which pants look baggier the begins suit pants or TDK suit pants?
btw this is a serious question.


Oh, the TDK pants without a doubt. Haven't you seen the TDK pics?

[TheBatman072]

Oh, the TDK pants without a doubt. Haven't you seen the TDK pics?


See, they don't look baggy to me at all. In the pictures with the Joker Interrogation.

They look MUCH more baggy in the shot of your avatar.


To me, at least.

[superkong 500]

Oh, the TDK pants without a doubt. Haven't you seen the TDK pics?

Oh yea I have seen them but they seem about the same as the begins ones in the leaked pics. However in the cell phone pics the pants look like bats borrowed them from mc hammer. I was just asking to see if it was just me or if the pants really looked baggy as hell(atleast in the cell pics for now)

Nipples on batsuit and flames on optimus= batman with baggy pants:csad:

Iam exagerating of course but the pants are supposed to stretch tight over his legs to give that superhero sleek look.

http://host.trivialbeing.org/up/batsuit_front-753005.jpg


http://thumbnail.search.aolcdn.com/aais/EMI/media/mchammer/0094631039058.jpg

[Lobster Charlie]

I still think the Begins suit works best. The greatest thing about it is that it's fairly unremarkable--not as distracting as the new one, though I do like the "chain mail" thing going on with the new suit.

[superkong 500]

I still think the Begins suit works best. The greatest thing about it is that it's fairly unremarkable--not as distracting as the new one, though I do like the "chain mail" thing going on with the new suit.

yea but the problem is that its barely noticeable with all those thick rubber pieces covering it. The only time we'll see the fabric chanmail is in close-ups maybe.

[TheBatman072]

http://host.trivialbeing.org/up/batsuit_front-753005.jpg


See, THIS looks so much bigger and bulkier than the one in the leaked pictures or the HI-DEF official verson.

[jimmy]

I think the legs look the same in all of the pictures; large, bulky, creased, misshapen.

[bunk]

Oh yea I have seen them but they seem about the same as the begins ones in the leaked pics. However in the cell phone pics the pants look like bats borrowed them from mc hammer. I was just asking to see if it was just me or if the pants really looked baggy as hell(atleast in the cell pics for now)

Nipples on batsuit and flames on optimus= batman with baggy pants:csad:

Iam exagerating of course but the pants are supposed to stretch tight over his legs to give that superhero sleek look.

http://host.trivialbeing.org/up/batsuit_front-753005.jpg




Yeah... Definitely a case of the "baby legs".

[The Marvel]

If they ever change the suit again in whatever sequel for THE DARK KNIGHT it should be based off this http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/1688/batmanhy0.jpg
By thebeetle (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/thebeetle) at 2007-08-21
Of course you would make the black blue and take away the oval and switch it with the black batsymbol and you'd get the best of both worlds.
The Comics And Movies.

[superkong 500]

Yeah... Definitely a case of the "baby legs".

I mean after all this time and five bat-films they haven't nailed the suit yet.
First the suit looked pretty slick but the man inside coudn't move much it was very restrictive. Then came nolan and lindy hemming designing the suit and made something more flexible but sacrificed part of the aesthetic to make it more mobile, yet the stiff neck issue remained unresolved. Now we have this new suit which looks to be far more flexible and has a separate neck piece so that the neck problem is resolved. But again sacrifices aesthetics and creates this legs that look like batman's retaining water on the thighs. I mean favs and co. got it right the first time with a comic faithfull IM suit that can also move enough and doesn't even look bulky and yet it would be okay if it did since its suposed to be all armor. Can't they make a bat-suit that has the comic's suit sleekness and at the same time make it functional and practical without making it look bloated.

[Lobster Charlie]

I still think the Begins neck was pretty mobile for what it was. It wasn't like Keaton in B89 or Returns one bit, and Begins featured the most agile Batman to date.

Not perfect, but it's still the best we've seen. (IMO, of course)

[marty mcfly]

i agree that in most (all) of these pics, batman's legs look fat. but think about how many times we even saw his legs in Begins. aside from a few crouched shots and shots of him flying (and aside from all of the promotional pics, which don't matter because we never see him in a perfectly lit room with a perfectly white background), i don't think we'll even get a shot of his legs or boots. and if we do it will be lit differently, and shot from a flattering angle. i don't think anybody, nolan included, can look at those legs and say "man, that looks great and superhero-ish"

so maybe just NOT worry about it until we get some official (and legal) stills or even some actual screen shots.

[Agentdemon]

Oh yea I have seen them but they seem about the same as the begins ones in the leaked pics. However in the cell phone pics the pants look like bats borrowed them from mc hammer. I was just asking to see if it was just me or if the pants really looked baggy as hell(atleast in the cell pics for now)

Nipples on batsuit and flames on optimus= batman with baggy pants:csad:

Iam exagerating of course but the pants are supposed to stretch tight over his legs to give that superhero sleek look.

http://host.trivialbeing.org/up/batsuit_front-753005.jpg





Didn't someone confirm that it was a stunt suit?

[CFE]

Didn't someone confirm that it was a stunt suit?


yeah wait a minute. Aren't stunt suits made bulkier for more protection in stunts?

Leave it to Hypsters to jump to conclusions without thinking about every possible explination :whatever:

CFE

[CaptainClown]

yeah wait a minute. Aren't stunt suits made bulkier for more protection in stunts?

CFE

that's just a silly idea...

[CFE]

edit

CFE

[CFE]

that's just a silly idea...

sorry...sarcasm doesn't work on me...it comes off as annoying...:o

CFE

[CaptainClown]

Orly?

[CFE]

:p

but honestly, did no one consider the stunt double notion before deciding to rip into the suit claiming it to have baggy legs?

CFE

[TheBatman072]

Didn't someone confirm that it was a stunt suit?


Bah! Facts! Who needs 'em?!


Teh Baggy!!!1

[The Redux 714]

:p

but honestly, did no one consider the stunt double notion before deciding to rip into the suit claiming it to have baggy legs?

CFE

I did. But my words were quickly thrown out, along with my "AMH is NOT Riddler" argument...

[CFE]

yeah...Being quick to judge seems to be the trend with the TDK Spoilers Forum...:whatever:

CFE

[MasterOgami]

Let me say that I'm quite fond of the new suit. Even if the legs are a little baggy or not, I like what I'm seeing and the mobility it implies. BUT, I really,really doubt that was a stunt suit. I don't know if anyone's brought this up, but take a look at the leaked picture with Batman crouched on the wooden railing, left hand wrapped around a post. Its the same location, just look at the woodgrain and bolts on the post. Batman's feet are even in the same position in both pictures, and his hand is in the same position, only lower on the post. From the looks of things, the spy photo was taken right before, or maybe after, the leaked promotional picture. I doubt they'd use a stunt suit for something like that.

[nameless_hero]

Let me say that I'm quite fond of the new suit. Even if the legs are a little baggy or not, I like what I'm seeing and the mobility it implies. BUT, I really,really doubt that was a stunt suit. I don't know if anyone's brought this up, but take a look at the leaked picture with Batman crouched on the wooden railing, left hand wrapped around a post. Its the same location, just look at the woodgrain and bolts on the post. Batman's feet are even in the same position in both pictures, and his hand is in the same position, only lower on the post. From the looks of things, the spy photo was taken right before, or maybe after, the leaked promotional picture. I doubt they'd use a stunt suit for something like that.

In a lot of hero movies they have a wide variety of suits, some are more flexible in areas for the stunts, while the full "hero suit" looks sweet but is not mobile.

Daredevil had all sorts of suits that had some finished product mixed with stunt gear. Ben only wore the full hero suit in 2 scenes.

I'm sure we're seeing parts of the final hero suit, but for a crouched shot like that, it may be custom pants.

Either way, the suit really can't be 100% judged until after the film debutes...

[lujho]

You couldn't make a "hero" suit that has the design elements that it does that won't bunch up like that. If you put rubber where the leg will bend, the rubber will bend, and it won't be pretty.

[jimmy]

That IS Bale in the suit on the wooden steps. This is confirmed by an eye-witness account and the leaked spoiler pictures. The legs on the new suit are ****ING baggy.

[CFE]

Well then you could argue that Bale's just doing one of the stunts himself...thus wearing a stunt suit as opposed to the actual performance suit.

CFE

[Silver Knight]

Whats the latest?

[Shoemeister]

Whats the latest?

His pants are *officially* teh baggy like MC Hammer and the entire world is now boycotting TDK.

And you?

[TheBatman072]

His pants are *officially* teh baggy like MC Hammer and the entire world is now boycotting TDK.

And you?


Ahh, teh baggy. It's not teh puffy, but it will do.

[LexCorp]

That IS Bale in the suit on the wooden steps. This is confirmed by an eye-witness account and the leaked spoiler pictures. The legs on the new suit are ****ING baggy.

I am sure we will not see baggy pants suit in the film dude.

[Wolfman]

Okay, so here is the stuntbatman pic:

http://www.hollywoodchicago.com/uploaded_images/batsuit_front-753008.jpg
And this gotta be a stuntsuit, because as bad as the "hero" suit looks, it's not THIS bad. Exept for the crotch area.

Here is a rendition of a leaked picture:
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3706/tehpuffywrinkleha2.jpg

As you can see, there is definetly a wrinkly crotch, like in the stunt suit. It may or may not have puffiness in the pants (we cant see because the table blocks the view), but the horrible wrinkles are the same. But I gotta say that in that leaked picture - where Joker is on the ground and Batman's towering him - the batsuit looks best. All the other pictures it's bad, but in this particular picture it actually looks good. Organic, like someone described it to be on the footage they were lucky to see.

Thank you :p

[dark_b]

maybe they are using big pants because he is in that kind of position(leaked pics) ?

they dont look bad in the laked pics and they dont look big in the first official pic

[Wolfman]

Yeah. I'm just bored.

[Farren]

The crotch area looks baggy, yeah.

[Wolfman]

Oh LOL! I really need to get off these boards, I just made a really tastless joke on one other thread and now here's a chance to do it again. HAahahaahaha. Here it goes: Maybe it's baggy because Batman has such a huge package! Ehehehehaheehheaehe. I'm outta here.

[Exabyte]

Some of the topics arising in hear are the real joke. I will save my criticism for when I see live footage.